Ep 53 · 1:05:39
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0:30Speaker 0Dude, it's funny. I, well, we're recording later too, which is this is not our prime time. Tuesday
0:36Speaker 0at 3, so you know. Guys, not like you care when we're recording it, but it's Thursday or Tuesday at 3 and we usually do it early in the morning and we're fresh and the world hasn't hit yet, but
1:14Speaker 1it'd be fun. You know what? Last year, the coolest thing was they do these drone shows in the air. Like,
1:20Speaker 1you look at there and it is a, like, perfect picture, whatever the hell they want. And what you're actually looking at, tens of thousands of
1:42Speaker 1that was a death trap. I can't believe no children fell off the sides of the boat. Jax was not having a good night. Oh, 0, I don't even think you made it. Yeah, he did. Yeah, we got there and we left. You were at the boat Last year we were there, it was freezing. This year Alyssa's going with the boys and the babysitter and I have to record some stuff so I won't have make it, but- I always hope that it's colder. I expect to be like, Hell yeah, it's gonna be cold on the water. Suncover and no, it's still warm.
2:33Speaker 1Takes work at hosting people, bro. We usually did that. We would do it every year with the Santa Claus, man, and we didn't do it this Dude, last year was fun at your house. Was fun. I remember I got I got there, and Alyssa's like, Help me wrap presents. I'm damn good at wrapping presents, And by the way, food,
2:48Speaker 1and she's like, alright. Like Oh, I remember that. We had yeah. There was 30 kids in the backyard. And then we've all all these presents, she's like, Santa Claus is gonna show up in 5 minutes. I was like, alright. Just give me a bedsheet. We just lay out this bedsheet,
3:01Speaker 0and just Huckleberry finned it. Right? Grouded it, threw the sack over, ran out, and gave it to Santa. And Santa turned the corner and was like, I had kids, and the kids just went, Ape shit. Yeah. So it was funny, a little story about that, not like anybody cares, but it's a cool story. So this Santa Claus sold my wife. He was talking about how he's been good. My wife is the easiest cell on the planet. He's talking about how he's the best Santa. He's been doing it for years. His dad was a Santa. His dad was a Santa. Like, it's in their chain. It's in their blood. Right? And so my wife sold hook, line, and sinker. She can't make way to meet this guy.
3:29Speaker 0Long story short, Santa Claus was out in his van before. Yeah. Smoke as a reaper. Yeah. He comes the door, he's reeking a weed at a kid party and I'm like, Bro, dude, are you kidding me, dude?
3:40Speaker 0Duh, just was a grumpy sound. It wasn't Did you do you remember that? He wasn't like I'm like, Can you say like ho ho ho or something, bro? Like, he was just such a
3:48Speaker 1I remember our friend- My wife was pissed. Like 20 minutes in, 30 minutes in, right? Oh, there's thousands of presents, right? And all the kids are like, They're mine.
3:56Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. Fight them. And I Chad was like stiff arming kids and like, No. Chad. Alright, you, you just won. Go away now. Come back later for 2nd round. But every kid, I mean, it was cool though. Like, every kid got 3 presents.
4:10Speaker 0Yeah, but we didn't do this year, but, man, this is chaos. And ours is a no kid party. Yeah.
4:17Speaker 1Allie's like, well, the kids, we don't want the kids to fall in the pool. I'm like, just, you just don't want, you just don't want the kids. You don't have to blame it on the you don't want the kids fall in the- Well,
4:33Speaker 0We love doing this. We love doing this. So good questions. I'm scroll through them real quick
4:40Speaker 0let's dig into it, we think. Man. Let me wanna start us off. Think you always start us off with
4:48Speaker 1Big fan of the pod. Appreciate you guys putting all this great info out there. I'm a 29 year old female that competes in bikini bodybuilding shows. I just started prep for another show I wanna do early in 2026.
5:02Speaker 1I have great muscle density, but my feedback is always to get leaner. Currently weigh 1 40 at 15% body fat and wanna cut at least 10 pounds before getting back on stage. This is my current stack. Retta, 500 micrograms,
5:53Speaker 1200 mgs a week cleared her acne. You know, if you run a high dose of glutathione anywhere, like, above 600 micro or milligrams,
6:00Speaker 1it will start to make you more pale. And it doesn't mean you're, like, unhealthy. Actually, you are healthy. It just actually changes your skin tone to be a bit more pale. So it's doing something with the skin there. But at 200 mgs,
6:16Speaker 1Okay. Any recommendations on adding or changing anything? I was thinking doing the efemoral and Tesamorelin blend, maybe adding L carnitine.
6:48Speaker 1serum night and, morning and night, and I'm seeing a huge difference in my skin texture. Sweet. That's awesome. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, hell,
7:28Speaker 1It's interesting, though, when she did wet it, which I'm assuming that body fat went down even more Yeah. That it triggered that. So that's funny. That is that's that's crazy that it that it did that. Now so the question is,
8:05Speaker 1That's the best That stuff's awesome, and it's probably 1 of the best things that will get you to your lean goal. So I would increase that,
8:14Speaker 1to maybe a full mg 3 times a week, see how that goes. I'm not gonna say just blow yourself out on it, but you could even go higher than that. I see people who are really trying to lose considerable weight
8:37Speaker 1you can handle more. And especially if your goal is leaning out with all your work ethic, I think just right there, we'll do do amazing things. L carnitine and 5 Amino-1MQ.
8:52Speaker 1pre break down your fat so it can be burnt off easier. The L carnitine is just shoved and telling body, let's burn fat and prioritizing fat over everything else to be burnt, and that's what you want to burn. So there's some suggestions.
9:18Speaker 1take a lot of that stuff. Works really well. And that's still not like that high of a dose. I I was just with somebody showing me
9:54Speaker 0Obviously, you are a bodybuilder, so you know what's up. You're in competition, so I'd imagine you have a coach, so you probably get some good feedback with that. There's a lot of coaches, because I talk to a lot of guys at the gym, bodybuilders and stuff, and their coaches don't know a lot about peptides. They're still stuck in the gear era,
10:15Speaker 0we'll nail it. I hate saying this. I just, again, L quarantine for me is just a rough, rough thing for me. I don't know, especially a woman. You're going to have to take a mil a day, and that's rough.
10:25Speaker 0He nailed it. I was gonna tell it to you that same thing and he already jumped on it. The 5MQ to 1MQ, I would put in place of that.
10:34Speaker 0It's gonna be great. You're trying to lean out. Up the red as he said, 5MQ to 1MQ, up SLU like he said.
10:53Speaker 0You're doing pretty good, girl. I would just kind of up the dosages of the things that you do, even the glutathione once a week. Generally speaking, I would imagine you should do it 3 times a week at least. You can up that.
11:06Speaker 0But all in all, you asked about our opinion. I think that you're doing great. I think your stack is awesome.
11:18Speaker 0you can shoot either of us a DM if you follow us on social media, and then we can help with that.
11:26Speaker 1it does work really well. Yeah. Takes the sting that's out of a different reconstitution solution that you might wanna try that will really, really, really blunt
11:57Speaker 1hit us up. And good for you for not doing any steroids, right? As a woman, it's like even the Anabar, even the Anabar, right,
12:04Speaker 1women shouldn't be taking more than 5 milligrams- They do. Right? For like 2 weeks max. But-
12:10Speaker 1They do. It ain't worth it. So good job. And nowadays, especially like if you have good enough muscle,
12:41Speaker 0We're actually gonna, just so you all know, I'm putting the cart before the horse, but we are gonna sit down with a guy that we respect and love, and he's a big guy that we like to talk to.
12:51Speaker 0So we're having him on the show on Friday. So that Peptide podcast will drop on Monday. And we're gonna dig into the laws and stuff a little bit more. We're gonna all 3 discuss
13:05Speaker 0peptide stuff as well, so we will answer a little bit of these more in detail on the next episode so you know. We'll touch on these a bit. I'll start if you don't mind.
13:22Speaker 0and yes, the laws are going to be changing. You know, the companies that own these drugs,
13:29Speaker 0they want to make all the money. To be honest, that's just the way it is, right? And so they
13:35Speaker 0have some power to get certain things done, and that's what's happening. So I always like to slow down
13:46Speaker 0do things go cheaper? Do they get better? Or do they get more expensive? Right? And so just think logically.
13:57Speaker 0My opinion is what you're gonna see are the cost of these things are gonna go up. Now, I do not think they're gonna be scarce where you can't get them. I think they're just gonna be
14:21Speaker 0So I'm going to tell you straight up, if you have the means and you take these types of peptides,
14:27Speaker 0I would suggest that you stock them. Why not? Worst case scenario, you've got some peptides in your pocket for next year, right?
14:41Speaker 0Things are gonna get cost more costly. So that's my take. Again, we will elaborate that, I think, a little bit more in-depth on that. The next podcast,
14:49Speaker 1you got anything on that 1? I don't know. I think that there's a lot of stuff out there. I think the worst case scenario, what has been
16:04Speaker 0I'd stock up now then. Yeah. I mean, it's gonna shake out some of the dirty companies that don't have things tested and whatnot. Will all peptide companies
16:15Speaker 0I think the smarter ones that have some connections and will do some different things- We'll good, yeah, some- They'll make creative. This happened in the mortgage industry all the time. It's got the laws and guidelines changed all the time. We would have a company meeting and everybody would be like, Oh, I need new laws, have to send me a paperwork and all this stupid stuff, but like in 2 weeks, everybody was just used it. So part of the game, government gets involved, makes more paperwork, makes more they charge more money. It's- Right. It is what it is, man. Here we go. And I kind of get it.
16:44Speaker 1If you go online and you go, I wanna buy peptides, right? Like, there's you know, 20 pages of just
16:58Speaker 1people who are just buying the cheapest stuff they can and never testing it and not caring about
17:38Speaker 1who's gonna get shut down is the shady little person in their garage. Right? It's bigger companies. It's the bigger companies.
17:52Speaker 1they have COAs and everybody's thing says, Oh, independently tested. Right? Yeah. Would you look at the tests,
18:04Speaker 1Do that. And make sure if you look at our Janoschik test, that the bottom isn't cut off
18:26Speaker 1see tell me, I don't know, is there any feedback? How many people have been, like, hurt by peptides that they've been taking?
18:39Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah. So but we don't know. I mean, honestly, I don't know. There's just rumors and just we'll see. You know?
18:52Speaker 1So I got you. Love the show, guys. I'm 44 years old. Just started with the juice last year.
19:30Speaker 1hundred 57 on hand. You wanna jump on that? Yeah. Sure. I guess it would be helpful to give us what the goal is. Right? There are so many
19:37Speaker 0Well different good, like, steroids out there that- Yeah, we're crossing over the- You Yeah, we know a little bit about that too. We'll jump in. I like this. This is cool. So I don't want to be blunt with you. I think DECA is 1 of my least favorite gear.
19:52Speaker 0It gives you a very big and bulky round look, I like lean and tight, ripped out look. So if that is what you're looking for, though a of people love deca, I'm not knocking it for you, but that's why I don't like deca. I like to be more like hard and ribbed and not round.
20:09Speaker 0if you are not looking to get kind of bigger and round, then DECA might not be for you, dude. MPP might be a little bit better if you're gonna do that. Like MPP better than the DECA.
20:27Speaker 0right, and buff, you're taking the Retta, so that's going to help with that stuff. So I would recommend something more of like a cutter. I think Melanot both of you on the cutters, we like masrone or we like cream a bowling. I mean, masrone and cream a bowling together are just like the whole grill I and
20:43Speaker 0mean, I've done numerous cycles just so people know, and I always start with a wind straw because wind straw just kicks you into gear quick. It hits real fast, hits you hard.
20:52Speaker 0You can't take it for that long, and then I would go into a mass drone or a cream of bull or both, depending on how much gear you want to run. Good luck finding them. Yeah.
21:02Speaker 0So that's just my take on that. You don't really tell us your goals, so I'm just telling you what most people's goals are.
21:15Speaker 0and I know Will and I will comment on this, I think the growth hormone is such an amazing, amazing, amazing compound.
21:31Speaker 0that's when you start to get things that could happen where things grow, cancers and things like that.
21:37Speaker 0That's where people get in more trouble with the growth hormone. I think personally, it was stuff that I read and kind of dug into
21:43Speaker 0the growth hormone at 2 IUs. It's such a low dose and it just does so much. It's a long play, but once you hit 6 months, dude, you are just in 5th gear and cruising for a really long time. And it really helps you burn fat, keep your belly tightened.
21:57Speaker 0I love it just at a lower dose, dude. But again, if you're running the 4 IUs and DECA, I'm assuming you might just try to look, your goal is to try to get big. So,
22:27Speaker 1Those are all good. So NPP. Right? So DECA, notoriously 1 that's like the wettest steroids. Right? So it'll make you retain 1 of the most amounts of water.
22:39Speaker 1size on you. It's very low on the side effect profile, but the 1 thing people that it will give you is, like, deca
22:51Speaker 1And which which which prolactin can get can give you gynol also. Yeah. Any antiestrogen
23:00Speaker 1Cabergoline is the only thing to take care was the best thing to take care of that. You can store some cocaine too because that does the same thing. It's also an anti prolactin. But
23:14Speaker 0Let's talk about it for a 2nd because we never talked about it. So let's talk about that for a minute because gyno,
23:18Speaker 0we talk about the gyno from testosterone. And let's talk about the gyno from like a trin or a- PARTIN.
23:24Speaker 0Or a deca, which is pseudo gyno compared to gyno is different. So gyno is gonna give you like a ball, right on your nipple. Pseudogyno
23:34Speaker 0that's the prolactin. So you build up a lot of fat around here. So when they cut it out, it's like just, you you see the guys that are like that. Yeah, so that's the difference between what you're going to get with the gyno from the DECA.
23:48Speaker 0if you don't know that and you're gonna run DECA or Tren or 1 of those types, you should at least kind of dig into it a little bit because they both have Everybody's
23:59Speaker 1really does different. And it's not something that, like, happens to everybody where it's like estrogen. If
24:09Speaker 1Our body has this much men testosterone, this much estrogen, and our body likes that ratio. When you start putting more testosterone, well, our body wants the ratio. So it elevates the estrogen. All that increase of estrogen is bad.
24:21Speaker 1There is literally no nothing good about it at all. Estrogen symptoms are are gyno sensitive nipples. You're creating little bits of fat underneath underneath the nipples and let grow. They will grow into boobs, acne, and water retention. Yep. The
24:38Speaker 1but prolactin is not almost as it's not as, like, a guaranteed thing. Yeah. It has estrogen
24:55Speaker 1And, well, what we know from long esters, they stay in your body, okay? And they're probably gonna be more effective steroids for your results. But guess what also stays in your body and lingers around forever? The side effects, I
25:07Speaker 1prefer all short esters and everything that's ever mastered on because side effects are almost good because it's anti estrogenic.
25:14Speaker 1with NPP, it's really cool. You don't get as much water retention either because that is a
25:20Speaker 1I guess, long ester portion of it. So the NPP is in you, out of you. You get some really good, really good size,
25:28Speaker 1but you also can stay lean because you're not the water isn't hanging around nor is the prolactin effects.
25:35Speaker 1Yeah. You gotta inject 3 times a week because it's a fast ester. You don't ever want your blood
25:46Speaker 1ester, which is like in 2 to 3 days. So I still would do it every at least 3 times a week if we're talking NPP. Okay. Yep. But yes, I prefer all cutters. I've never been a bulker person.
25:57Speaker 1You know, different people are, but I am I'm 6 4, 2 50, and I'd never need I could be 2 90 taking cutters if I wanted to. But
26:05Speaker 1I never needed it, and I don't like that feeling. But deep to zone, I think that with the growth, I would like to say that I wouldn't just just bump up to 4 IUs just while you're on the cycle. Like, pick a pick a number and just go.
26:19Speaker 1Go long term. Growth should be just ran underneath whatever you run-in long, long, long term.
26:29Speaker 1a too much can make you retain too much water. If that's happening, you just back it down and slowly titrate up.
26:39Speaker 1I like cutters. I used to like wind straw. I'm older. Now everything just makes everything hurt because wind straw is such It a good pulls all the water out of you, including lubrication in your joints. It works fast, though. And it works fast. It racks you Run fast and jump high and be really strong.
27:02Speaker 1What do think about the data sub Q, he says? I've done that, and I have no problem. Just realize, like, oil isn't soaking very well. Yeah. You know? If you have more fat,
27:11Speaker 1if I'm pretty damn lean, and so you see every little bulge, that's why you gotta do it every day because you can't inject a good amount or else you're just gonna have this, like, knob sticking out of your stomach.
27:25Speaker 1especially while doing an everyday injection will will, no matter what, make everything aromatize less because your your hormones aren't spiking that way.
27:33Speaker 01 thing that we didn't touch is we don't talk about diet. What's your diet, dude? Like, that's a big part of this.
27:50Speaker 0is gonna be key. I mean, if you eat right and run gear, it runs and works really good. A lot of people don't eat right, and it's gear is not magic. Like, that's the thing that drives me crazy, like, even in my DMs and stuff. Like, you see a super ripped dude. I don't care what type of gear he takes. His diet is prime. Yes. Like, you don't get ripped. You don't get a ripped stomach. You do not get a ripped stomach unless your diet is prime. Gear doesn't just rip you up. Yeah. It helps
28:17Speaker 0throw fuel on the fire, but it doesn't. No, he doesn't. He hate for people to food. Use don't know what you're talking about.
28:30Speaker 1It's always the people who are jealous who like, Shoot. If I just did steroids on things like that.
28:44Speaker 0is 2 to 4 chains of amino acids. 2 to 4 amino acids to make a chain. A tiny chain. On a piece, where a peptide is generally like 2 to 5 50. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and I reach 5
28:55Speaker 1to 50. But like, yes, a bioregulator is a very short sequence of amino acids in making a chain, but I think up to 4. Right.
29:43Speaker 1homeostasis to normal. Whatever level, whatever the hell we're talking about, right, it is there to make a small little change
29:56Speaker 1Yeah. Okay. Well well said. Even though peptides aren't thing you use for physiological
30:13Speaker 1yeah, I don't know, should be in a really safe they always work on your DNA, whereas peptides don't. Always.
31:10Speaker 0Semi healthy. New to peptides. I currently take 10 units of Retatr twice a week. Clo 10 units, 5 days on, 2 days off. G just started 20 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I just started Thymosin Alpha-one
31:41Speaker 05 years ago and ended up having emergency surgery as they preferred my colon. My biopsy came back, It was cancer and they removed it.
31:56Speaker 0and should I tweak any of these dosages and should I add anything else? My inflammation has decreased. That's awesome. Thank God, but haven't lost all the weight I want. I'm 5 3.
32:15Speaker 0starting to lift heavy and walking every day, just trying to find some guidance instead of winging it. Appreciate you both so much.
32:23Speaker 0You're helping people like me. Well, thank you for that. Yeah. That was a good 1. Well, appreciate that. You want to take that 1, Stuart? Well, I'll say, Hey, what should I tweak? I noticed that you said I have not lost the weight that I want.
32:35Speaker 1Easy math. You are doing Reta 10 units twice a week. Okay? So I'm assuming 10 units is 1 mg,
32:59Speaker 1seeing different results. And when I say bump that up, like, I would literally if you wanna go twice a week, cool.
33:11Speaker 1See how it feels. And you know, maybe go in 2 week increments. Okay, go 2 weeks of fifteen-fifteen.
33:37Speaker 1I think that will make a huge difference. You did say MOTS-3C, but I haven't started it. There's some I will just kind of give some dosing recommendations on that. I think that will help.
33:55Speaker 1Have the mitochondria fired and give you just more and more energy, more fuel into that fire. Dosing,
34:02Speaker 1you will read and see a lot of dosing saying MOTS-3C should be going 5 mg once a week.
34:08Speaker 1That's great. Although practical experience has showed us and told us that lots of people are saying like, Damn, I do 5 mg, but I don't feel good when I do that. I feel just kind of jittery and maybe a little bit hypertensive.
34:37Speaker 0Especially at 56. Yeah. We all start to weigh wear down, and our body's tired, and our cells are tired.
35:06Speaker 1things are leaking out, okay? And those things leaking out are free radicals. They are leading to inflammation,
35:18Speaker 1is inside of the cell and MOTS - is burning this thing and making this thing produce a whole bunch of energy. Well, if all that energy is slipping out the cell walls, it's not doing much good. So MOTS-3C is there to to reinforce the walls so all that energy is condensed and goes somewhere good,
35:35Speaker 0And good on the inflammation. And I would say a lot of that has to do with Thymosin Alpha. Thymosin Alpha is the best for bringing down inflammation. So I think Thymosin Alpha is good. So good on that. I think you should stick on that. Thymosin Alpha is awesome.
35:55Speaker 0I mean, we'll answer a lot of this. I mean, generally speaking, I think Will and I both would have put in a secretagogue for you. However, you have had cancer, so I think both of us left it out for that.
36:05Speaker 0Because being your age, you know, you want to definitely add some muscle on a secretagogue or an H- Bone structure, right? It's gonna really help against like osteoporosis as you get older, but it is a, yep, it's- Well, you're on the side of safe when it comes to that stuff. But yeah, and you can add in some fat burners. I
36:28Speaker 0is going to be a little bit better. There's a lot of stuff out there. People that disagree, especially on the Reta, there's all kinds of stuff.
36:51Speaker 0That's not gonna do anything that's going to do anything of the growth hormone. So AOD, I love AOD.
36:57Speaker 0So that's actually, I didn't catch that until I started talking. Yeah, for the 1st question we asked, the woman bodybuilder needed to get leaner AOD. It is great. Sorry, didn't miss that. Yeah, I think you guys have heard me say this, but man, I put my wife, and I'm not talking for you because of the screen, put my wife, Nadesa, AOD, and man, radical change. So girl up top, the bodybuilder girl. Yeah, those 2 together, have the AOD.
37:38Speaker 01 thing, as you're getting old, you're probably achy, so why don't we throw in some Wolverine,
37:44Speaker 0or maybe even some TB-five hundred at least. That's gonna be what's good for stem cells. We get old, we get achy.
37:51Speaker 0That stuff's so good. Yeah. Either both, either the Wolverine stack or maybe the TB-five hundred for you because you don't have to do it every day,
38:01Speaker 0say it, but I bet you you feel it because we get old and that's what happens. I hope that helps. Right.
38:33Speaker 1nanograms per deciliter of total tests and a 150 nanograms per deciliter of free tests, which is, like Yeah. Awesome at 44. It's high. So no need for TRT. Good for you. Right? I've been on Reta for 4 weeks. Have worked up to 1 mg 3 times a week. Okay. I feel great. And losing those stubborn 5 to 10 pounds so I can see my abs again. Sweet. How long should I run the Retta once I hit my leanness goal?
39:20Speaker 11 mg of Tesofen each night. That's that's great. Switching up the stack in February. Curious as to what I should do next. I'm a contractor and manage many things daily.
39:41Speaker 1Jiu jitsu. Okay. Brazilian jiu jitsu. My bad. That's good. I thought something else was surprising. Thank you for any and all advice.
40:03Speaker 1you're kicking ass. He's a Virginia GHK guy. He probably knows what's up. Yeah. Yeah. So you're doing a lot. You probably need those 2 mgs of the World Marine stat
40:17Speaker 1Yeah, dude. I would say, like, you don't need to be on Retta. Nobody says you need to be on it for a while. Right? If you get it on for a long time, get on it. If you get down to your desired leanness,
40:32Speaker 1if you are still eating consistently throughout the day and you're losing that weight, probably could stop cold turkey. If you're 1 of these people who really, like, just stop eating and that's how you lost weight, I would not stop cold turkey because your metabolism is now on the floor, and I would slowly titrate off. And for you,
41:26Speaker 11. Okay. It's gonna create a lot more, it's gonna just make your body healthier, give your body more cellular energy. And
41:46Speaker 1I would do 3 times a week, like 25 mg, Selank, Cmax mix. Selank is gonna give it's gonna calm your brain. Cmax is gonna give it some energy, but they work really well together. They're not just counteracting each other.
42:16Speaker 1IpA after 4 weeks of the Tessa IpA, go ahead. But again or just switch to just HGH long
42:31Speaker 0you're active, right? You're rolling around, you're achy, so you've got that part covered with the Wolverine, but
42:45Speaker 0hundred 50. 150 free tests is high. Wow. Yeah, that's great. Good for you. To not be on testosterone, that's super rare
42:53Speaker 0Good for you. But HGH in the morning, because that's going to help prepare. It's a long play, but I think anybody over 40 should do a small dose of HGH.
43:01Speaker 0And then a secretagog at night. You know you run a test of HIPAA, but run that for 4 months.
43:11Speaker 0if you ever wanna get a little bulk on, then switch it up to a non peptide Secreticog MK-677,
43:18Speaker 0and switch it up a bit. The Redeye might have a little bit of a difference. I don't know, I mean, I've said this before, but
43:30Speaker 0Did I say titrate down Yeah. You can taper down. So, and just kind of stay at like 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. If you do come off, here's the thing. You can come off for a month, maybe 2, and it probably will work really good and then just kind of kick into gear again. I got off it for a bit when I was
43:46Speaker 0having my back surgery because why would it go on And when I got back on it, it worked really good.
43:52Speaker 0Not like it doesn't always, but you could tell the difference that I'd been off it for a bit.
43:57Speaker 0And there's other things that you can take their place. We've talked about it. SLU-PP-three 32. I love SLU-. I do. I think it's amazing, and you don't have to inject it. It's
44:08Speaker 0a sublingual form, and you can take a lot of it. I feel like it does give me personally a little bit of energy,
44:27Speaker 0So rock and roll, Brandon. I'm assuming you take creatine. If you don't, you need to. Creatine HCL is my favorite. I'm not a monohydrate guy,
44:34Speaker 0but most people should be taking creatine. Because creatine, we don't talk about it that much, creatine's amazing.
46:04Speaker 1and these things didn't do a damn thing for you. They didn't limit your hunger, and they didn't limit your food noise.
46:11Speaker 1Oh, shit. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like, cool. Let's not I don't wanna denigrate your lie. You worked hard. Right? You were strict in your diet, but, like, why didn't you lose 50 pounds a year ago?
46:22Speaker 1Right? Like, why didn't you do this sooner if it was that easy and these drugs did nothing and played no part
46:33Speaker 1they don't burn fat, folks. I mean, well, at least Semaglutide does not burn fat. All it does is make you eat less food.
46:44Speaker 1the amount of calories, okay? I'm talking about some Glutide. You're telling me you didn't, you have no, you didn't have the food noise, didn't stop. I, that's hard to put- maybe, maybe it didn't stop. Like, you didn't, maybe it didn't stop completely, but my guess is that they helped a little bit on that weight of 50 pounds. All right?
47:01Speaker 1that being said, I'm sorry, again, I don't wanna take away hardware because regardless,
47:11Speaker 1And I think the GLP-three is perfect and probably what you need right now. Like, right? People have absolutely. And you've also lost 50 pounds. Okay? So you have, and no doubt in that 50, you've lost quite a bit of muscle, which
47:37Speaker 1That's how you keep metabolism high and you keep burning tons of calories all day long.
47:45Speaker 1Well, if the others didn't take away food noise, then great, you're not missing anything, right? GLP-three is going to take away, like, crate food noise for bad things, but you will be able to eat. You'll have a good appetite. And that way, now you can eat some protein. Right? It uniquely is going to burn fat. Like, it is actually very special on it's gonna burn a ton of fat. Get moving. I don't wanna this is not overcomplicated, but it's gonna burn a lot of fat, whereas the others really aren't burning fat. They're just helping you not eat. True. So
48:32Speaker 1And I think you'll see some you'll again start to lose some weight. Now those people, we have a friend. We have I have 2 friends who've, like, literally maxed out of semaglutide
48:50Speaker 112 mg of semaglutide. Like, what do you mean? People would be, like, throwing up for 2 weeks, but that's that's
48:57Speaker 1So there you go. That's that's possible. I mean, that's It's possible, but it's but but you lost 50 pounds
49:10Speaker 1Yeah. And the fact you lost, like, this is it's a domino effect too. Like, good for you. You lost 50. Like, now you know it's possible and just ride that momentum wave.
49:28Speaker 0You don't talk anything about any type of exercise. I don't think you talked about diet. So those things are going to be important. So you don't talk about that. I would imagine you're working out. If you're not, you need to.
49:44Speaker 0You're going to burn fat, but you want to keep the muscle and you need to lift weights to keep the muscle. So make sure that you do that.
49:56Speaker 0Mean, guys haven't done this in a while, but if you go through PAC, through my YouTube, I have a bunch of HIIT training that you can do, they're all at home for guys that didn't like the gym. That's why I had done that. So you can go through my YouTube
50:32Speaker 0and let's do it micro dosing Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Now, what would we start him on, which he's at such a high dose of the
50:41Speaker 0I would say at least 2 minutes, 3 times a week. Yeah. It's low, but like, let's start there. Yeah. Start there and go up
50:50Speaker 1because give it 2 weeks and then go up. Give it 2 weeks and then go up. You're at a high dose of tirzepatide.
51:01Speaker 0the same. It is the same, but he's doing the 12.5 mg and I'm almost guaranteeing it's a shock.
51:06Speaker 0It's from a doctor, they give it to the pen, he takes it once a week and let's try something different. So let's try it 3 times a week. Let's try it 2
51:26Speaker 0and we gotta play around with it. You hear us talk about all the time, gotta find the sweet spot. Everybody's got to find the sweet spot. And at the end of the day, GLP-three is the best
51:34Speaker 1out of the 3, so go with that. Yep. Hope that helps. Cool. All right. I love what y'all are doing. I have a peptide company out of Las Vegas, and it's awesome to see leaders like y'all in this space. So thank you for that. Now, what is your opinion on generic GH versus pharma GH?
51:56Speaker 1if I want to shift over? Thanks again, boys. Keep crushing it. So I do have an opinion on this. I've been
52:46Speaker 1if that's what you mean by generic is like the UGL stuff, I would say there's a better chance like that stuff can be really strong and great. Absolutely. Versus the, you know, the pharmaceutical stuff has stayed the same because it's always just been
53:05Speaker 1get a prescription from a doctor, started taking it the same exact dose as they were taking from this other stuff, and they were like, Dude, this is crap. Like, all of my, like, side effects have gone away. And when we were talking about side effects in growth hormone, those are good things. Right. That means the stuff is working.
53:34Speaker 1can be bad stuff everywhere, right? If your growth is, and if it tests out good, you know, you can get generic things that test out terrible and are crap.
53:50Speaker 0has changed a bit Quite a over bit. The Yes. For quite some time. Yeah. It's been a big stage, man, not a long time. Yeah.
54:01Speaker 0Starting my journey on TRT. I'm 45. I work in mortgage. Alright, man. I did that. 22 years.
54:07Speaker 0That'll matter. Very busy life with my daughter in club volleyball and my son in travel baseball. I work out 5 to 6 days a week. What is a good peptide stack to burn some fat, promote recovery
54:24Speaker 0Well, typical, typically, you wanna run it with me right now? You burn it. Alright, my brother. Well, you are starting your TRT journey. You're 45, so I'm gonna start you off with an HGH2
54:35Speaker 0IU. So let's get you started on that because most men over 40 shouldn't be doing that in my opinion.
54:41Speaker 0we're too tied, without a doubt. I would start you at 1 mg, 1 day, Wednesday, and Friday.
54:50Speaker 0those 2 together. If you got a couple bucks and can do another fat burner, would throw an AOD.
55:13Speaker 01, Will and I will always say those 2 are peanut butter and jelly. They should go together. They're both great, but better together.
55:39Speaker 0And on the side, if you wanna try it, I'm not a fan of it, but most people are, you can always try Tesofensine.
55:48Speaker 0and it's a great fat burner. I don't like it personally, but most people do. Yeah. So there is a stack that you could try. If you got a couple bucks, get all of them. If you don't, then, you
56:03Speaker 1Yeah. That's kind of perfect world, right? Like, hey, perfect world would be awesome, right? If you can have all of that stuff Around that many times, it's amazing.
56:19Speaker 1Retta, you can't go wrong with you. Retta's amazing too for those people. It keeps It shuttling blood
56:34Speaker 1you know, you not do blood sugar crash and feel miserable and get hangry. It's amazing. I don't eat for 4 hours if I'm still on that, if I'm taking Retta,
57:00Speaker 1to a few to a few of those at once. Right? Unless you can afford all of them. But I'd say, you know, it's I'll be the devil's advocate to make to pick,
57:22Speaker 1and Selank's and Max. So I think Reta is that powerful for the for the weight loss. Now,
57:27Speaker 1ain't really helping with recovery other than the NAD. NAD just does amazing things on a full body level because it's just rejuvenating your cells. And guess what
58:03Speaker 1All right. Well, I'll skip the next 1. Next thing. Any peptides to help with ongoing UTIs?
58:08Speaker 1This has been a battle with sepsis, hospital stays, modern meds. Very little is working. Doing my own research to help myself and good for you.
58:23Speaker 0generally speaking are gonna be good for that, which is going to be, TA-one times alpha-one.
58:34Speaker 0my only concern, and Will and I talked about this a little bit, people that have an autoimmune, which sepsis
58:40Speaker 0is basically where your body's attacking your body, and that's kind of what's been going on with you.
58:53Speaker 0have been trying, I'm a big trial and error guy. When something's off, like, okay, what am I taking?
59:02Speaker 0And I've been seeing the stalker forever and I have to go on and get steroid injections in my head to kind of bring the swelling down on these things. And it sucks.
59:20Speaker 0that that could be in flaring it because it's been known to sometimes make autoimmune issues worse. I might be 1 of those people. So I've pulled it out
59:28Speaker 0a few times, but then I get kind of sick, which I never get sick. So, and then I'm all, I start taking it again. So, but anyways, I might be confusing the issue,
59:38Speaker 0I know we'll talk about this, but the KPV and the BPC, because those will help with your gut. Everything's
1:00:05Speaker 0there you go. That's where you should start. Now, I want to throw this out there again because it's somebody that we both love and trust.
1:00:11Speaker 0We have our good friend, Doctor. Scott. He's been on the show. He will be on the show more.
1:00:19Speaker 0And he can pull your blood work. He does deep, deep, deep panels, not just a typical MD panel, like a deep, deep, deep panel. And he can dig into
1:00:35Speaker 0different supplements that try to reboot the gut and blah, blah, blah. And I worked with him and whatnot. If
1:00:42Speaker 0you're interested, send 1 of us a DM or whatnot, and I can get you his number. You don't need to be in the same state. He can pull it out of state also. You just get your blood work done and he can do it on a Zoom call or something like that, if you're interested. I'm not pushing him on you. I don't care. I don't get anything out of it. Electrostomy, I love him and he's good at it. I
1:01:07Speaker 1BPC is known as naturally occurring to, right, to help the mucus membrane in our stomach lining and to repair the hell out of tissue. Okay? And
1:01:18Speaker 1I would be I would challenge you to take that, like, 2 2 mgs a day of the Wolverine blend for, like, 3 weeks and tell me if that's gotten better, which is BPC- TB-five hundred. And I also 2nd Thymosin Alpha
1:01:39Speaker 1I don't know. I got a feeling TB-five hundred or the BPC is and always TB-five hundred is gonna help out. Yeah. More. So, like, I would always Maybe take those
1:02:00Speaker 1so there's something called TriHeal that's a mix of like 25 mg of TB-five hundred, 10 mg of BPC,
1:02:12Speaker 1almost You'd try great. I would try that. I think that's it. Try Hill. Yeah. There it is. Hey, guys. I've been on peptides for a few months, and I feel great. Can you be on peptides
1:02:21Speaker 1forever or a long time a long period of time? I'm worried when coming off, I won't feel as great. My stack is currently Reta, MOTS-seed,
1:02:53Speaker 1at all, causing issues. But I think that you're gonna have, you know, your law of diminishing returns the longer that you are on them, and therefore, might be a good idea to
1:03:05Speaker 1as far as cycling goes, like, 4 months, you guys, a lot of these peptides, other than the GLPs,
1:03:10Speaker 1really good take that long. BPC, so much for trying to heal something, but it could take a good 4 months to really kick in. Now oftentimes they work sooner,
1:03:20Speaker 1and more power to you. But 4 months, give yourself a little bit of break. Try to find some peptides that do a lot of this, do very similar things and maybe go 4 months, then get off these ones and do 4 months there
1:03:37Speaker 1but for the most part, can you be on for a long period of time? Yeah, most of them you can, but it is dependent upon the actual Pepatide and money. Right. And and finances.
1:03:46Speaker 1Yeah. BPC and TV, I think I'll take those. Forever. Yeah. I would love to take them forever. Yeah. And right through by like, hey, if I'm taking BPC and TV and it is taking
1:03:56Speaker 1away all of my inflammation, my body's recovering faster, you know, I feel good, I feel flexible when I wake up,
1:04:07Speaker 1Yeah. You're inflamma it hasn't necessarily now if we're going for a if we're going for an injury, like, it should it'll actually heal the injury, but it's the systemic anti inflammation is
1:04:17Speaker 1gonna go away when you stop taking it, now you wake up. And if you haven't changed anything else in your life, like your diet and life habits and sleep, right, then all of that inflammation is going to
1:04:28Speaker 1come back and you're gonna go, Damn, I feel really bad now. Well, you don't feel really bad. It's not like it made you feel worse. You just felt superhuman, now you
1:04:46Speaker 1and change your lifestyle patterns, which makes your cells healthier and makes you healthy from the inside out, and so those recurring problems do not come back.
1:04:59Speaker 0Yeah, just a little throw out here. You know, 1 of my last, our last videos just got knocked off YouTube,
1:05:09Speaker 0substances, which we don't sell anything on this podcast. This has always been an educational
1:05:13Speaker 0podcast, so we're not sure if we're gonna put it on YouTube because we don't want to get our YouTube taken down. So silly that we gotta jump through hoops and do all these things, but it will be on Spotify for sure and Apple for sure. We will see about the YouTube. We got to talk about it. Yeah. So I hope everybody has an amazing day. We will see you soon.