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0:03Speaker 0I'm your host JD Denham. Right across the way is my buddy, mister William T. Haas. Welcome back, brother. Good
0:46Speaker 0we'll have some stuff to get to and we lagged a little bit, but that's life, right? So we're gonna get right into this because I'm sure that's what you want, came for anyway,
0:53Speaker 0answers on these questions. So I'm gonna start us off, what do we think? Go ahead, do it up. Do you work with a specific
1:19Speaker 0So it's hard to know who they're talking about when it comes to hormones. Can't see. Yeah. So he said, Do you guys have somebody
1:43Speaker 0You said that. You read that better than me. Yeah, that was a summarized I came out the gates on a dud.
1:56Speaker 0so this can only come from in regards to our opinions. We've taken them all, both of us. We have a lot of experience with it. I'm a huge fan of the TRT and HGH. I've said it numerous times, but if you haven't heard me say it, those 2 are my staples.
2:15Speaker 0for the rest of my life. I have no problem with that. I don't know why anybody cares. And I will run low dose of HGH most likely for a very long time. I run no higher than 2 IUs. I've never gone above it. It's worked out really well for me. Now the HCG,
2:36Speaker 0to get my bride pregnant on both times that she got pregnant. So yes, I'm currently taking it in high doses Monday, Wednesday, Friday now because she doesn't stop pestering me for baby 3, just so you know.
2:51Speaker 0I'm taking in just I don't mind telling people because they'll ask, How much am I taking? I'm taking 500 IUs Monday,
3:01Speaker 0and that has worked for me in the past. TB- Of what? Oh, HCG. Yeah. Okay. HCG to get my wife pregnant because I've been able to get my bride pregnant twice while being on testosterone replacement.
3:12Speaker 1It's worked out well. TB-1.3 And that's the 2nd time the doctor called him and called you and said, Hey, I know I told you that
3:23Speaker 0TB- I could give to my other patients? You haven't heard that story. My doctor said it couldn't be done and I went home and studied and I'm like, Well, it says right here that if I do this, this, this, it can be done.
3:38Speaker 1Huge story. I'm like 9 for 9 with my friends getting their babies pregnant. I was the 1st person to tell you to take HCG too. I said, Why isn't your doctor? So anyway, to answer this question,
3:56Speaker 1right, or not? Or does it just make you a little bit more fertile? I mean, there's still debates in your doctors saying, I don't even think it makes you more fertile, right?
4:21Speaker 1there's no point in taking HCG during that time because your nuts aren't even listening. Right? They've got so much. They're not waking up. They're asleep for the long for hibernation,
4:35Speaker 1can you add HCG in or even, you know, oftentimes maybe towards the very last couple weeks of a cycle when your natural test is really low, people will say, Hey,
4:44Speaker 1man, I don't feel good. I don't, I'm still still in my cycle, but I don't feel like I did at the beginning. Well, it's because you have been on for a while. You've been running a high doses and your natural
5:19Speaker 0both just now he just said that, I agree, you should. You should be taking HCG. I mean, some people don't care. I mean, to
5:26Speaker 0just kind of answer a little bit further on it, it's going to help your balls from shrinking or it's going to help them from shrinking more. Legitly
5:35Speaker 0with experience, it does work. It does stop them from shrinking too much. And that doesn't happen to every man. It doesn't. A lot of men, that doesn't happen to you, but a lot of them it does. Like every man doesn't get gynocholomastia,
5:45Speaker 1a lot of men do. Some people do. Some people only, some people don't get gyno, but they get water retention. Some people don't get that. They get get a lot of acne from estrogen. Right?
6:06Speaker 1You know, it's all relevant to the amount of tests that you're taking. If you're taking a lower dose, you probably don't need as much, but you need to
6:31Speaker 0Will knows this, but I have gyno problems for I've just man, testosterone converts to estrogen for me. It's been like that since day 1.
6:45Speaker 0I would suggest if you are gyno prone to stretch it out through the week, even daily, small doses daily is gonna help someone that is more susceptible to gyno. So 1
6:58Speaker 1it's just it's better for you to break it down. Yeah. My point. Yeah. With your hormones, the name of the game is consistency.
7:07Speaker 1and then a drop off and then another spike because every new hormone in your body, right, everything, every other hormone is predicated on each other, right? So 1 thing changes and it causes a chain reaction
7:27Speaker 1reach out to him after this and he can right, JD? You can send reach out to you after the show and shoot you a DM. Yep. Alright, I'll go to the next 1. Are peptides
8:06Speaker 1I don't know any that are addictive. Right? That's the beauty of most of these peptides, right, is there is no, like, withdrawal period. There is no, like, let down on the back end.
8:21Speaker 1You you know, we can always be addicted to the kinda like, hey, I do a little bit faster results or but that's not an actual addiction.
8:29Speaker 1Yeah. In regards to, like, health care. Don't know of any peptides that cause any physical addiction.
8:35Speaker 0They're just good for you. I think that's good on that 1. Okay, so I'm 61 year old female. Are peptides for me? Is it too late to start with some strength training?
8:46Speaker 0Absolutely not. I think that everybody I will be lifting till the day that I die, if you have, if you are 61, if you are 81, I think it's great. Get your body moving. Keep your body moving. Keep your body moving. Are peptides for you? I'll answer this before Will, so he can answer it in his way. I think they're for everybody. I think almost everybody, adults should, would benefit
9:09Speaker 0They're chains of amino acids, man. They're not bad. They're great. So for a 60 year old female,
9:17Speaker 0that's getting up there. Your body's gonna start breaking down. It's called life, called age. It is what it is. Peptides can help you age well.
9:38Speaker 0or the TB-five hundred, those should be probably staples as you continue to age just because they're amazing.
9:46Speaker 1We think, well What you should know is it not too late for you. Now is if you haven't done this already,
9:58Speaker 1That's even more important at that age, right? Because your bones are starting to get a little bit brittle, right? When we actually lift weights
10:06Speaker 1kind of overload on there, not only is it breaking down these micro tears in your muscles, right, but also little tiny little micro fractures in your bones, and what does our body do? It adapts. It always, always, always gets
10:21Speaker 1when we put it through some trauma, okay? Right? What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and that's actually true. So when you
10:38Speaker 1lifting weights, by the way hey, if you wanna burn fat, if you wanna burn the most amount of fat, strength training. Right?
10:45Speaker 1Look at the group of of of 5, like, old fat dudes who play basketball at your gym 3 times a week, right, and they're still fat, but like, damn, those dudes are running.
10:54Speaker 1Yeah. Nope. That's why. Because they don't do lifting weights. They are just killing their metabolism. They're burning off all their muscle, playing.
11:19Speaker 1It'll help strengthen your skin. Right? NAD is a great 1. That'll really like a mitochondrial peptide to AD. To,
11:40Speaker 1Yeah. I think that You know, I would take more and more. I would take more and more and more as I get older. Right? Really, I would.
11:49Speaker 0Yeah, I go for wanna talk real quick. Peptide of the week is Thymosin Alpha-one, right? And I just got off the phone with a good buddy of mine, Joe Brown, and
11:57Speaker 0I was telling him about peptides, blah, blah, blah, I don't know, a few months ago. So I sent him some Thymosin Alpha and a few other ones and whatnot. And so he's been getting the Thymosin Alpha. He's a guy that gets sick all the time. He just went to Europe
12:09Speaker 0and he always gets sick, he told me, every flight his whole life. And he did not get sick,
12:16Speaker 0Europe and back, on a on a a long flight with his kids, and he's like, dude, I've this stuff is amazing. Isn't that cool? That's awesome. That's that's really cool. Doesn't surprise me. Get it, bro. What's the next 1? Alright. Are there any
12:29Speaker 1there are there any peptides that can help raise testosterone without actually taking TRT?
12:34Speaker 1I'm having a hard time getting my doc to prescribe some since I'm in the normal range according to the lab.
12:45Speaker 1What's normal? I know that like Kaiser's prescribing, you know, standard is you have to be below like a 125,
12:51Speaker 1150 like nanograms per deciliter, which is like you you can't barely get out of bed. You haven't had a boner in a month.
13:25Speaker 1but I'm not a doctor, but I think anybody can live happily, healthy, and safely supplementing at like 800,
13:33Speaker 1at a test score of 800 nanograms per deciliter. That in no way has any relation to, like, how much test you actually give yourself.
13:45Speaker 1your free testosterone is also in the normal range, which means you're actually using that testosterone that you have in your system.
13:55Speaker 1Man, this stuff, there's not I mean, no. There is no perfect. There is there is no match. There's no there isn't anything that is nearly as good. Testosterone is the golden elixir. Right? Like, that's what we're made of. But let's not
14:15Speaker 0you need to be hormonally optimized. You do. You need to have your hormones right, man. And if it says normal, so we're not going to get where your normal range is, but let's just say what my experience is with most of men I've worked with that weren't on TRT. They were a little bit under 300. So let's just use that as an example. So if that is the case, you gotta answer the question,
14:37Speaker 0I would strongly recommend you get on testosterone replacement like right away. Peptides are great, start there though. You need to get on the testosterone replacement. And if your doctor is saying that he won't, there are doctors everywhere.
14:49Speaker 0Go get your blood work done. You can DM me, I can send you to a good buddy of mine that's a doctor, legit doctor, and he will pull your blood work, and we can help you. Don't get anything out of it. I'm not telling you you should, but
15:01Speaker 1you can find a doctor that knows what he's talking about. If that's the case and he's saying normal is 300 or lower, dude, find a new doctor. Find a new doctor. Sorry. They are probably bound by their hospital or their insurance, like Kaiser, which is an HMO, and they are those doctors are bound by those prescribing recommendations. So there are plenty of clinics and licensed doctors who actually have their license and know what they're talking about that will prescribe based on symptoms and not based on a test.
15:32Speaker 1yes, reach out. There's that. Now- I'll lead I'll lead you to where the somewhere that can help if you want. Yeah. Now the best closest thing, HCG. HCG is a a peptide.
16:09Speaker 0I've just read with that that even though raising the testosterone, they're not really getting the full benefits of if they just took testosterone, man. Like, you're not gonna feel the vigor.
16:17Speaker 0No. You know? It's just, I mean, so again, just to be honest with you, brother, get a different doctor. There's so many options. You just want to get on testosterone replacement. Don't go to peptides for your hormones.
16:41Speaker 1hundred 57 capsules for the gut? I took some and got an upset stomach about a week later. I wasn't sure it was the pills or something I ate, but after a week of an upset stomach
16:51Speaker 1and a BRAT diet, I cut out the pills and the symptoms went away. Now I'm thinking it was the pills. Have you heard of this happening?
17:03Speaker 01st off, I'm assuming that's an actual diet. I've never heard of that diet, but it doesn't matter.
17:16Speaker 0when it comes to the stomach, I mean, like we've said already, it comes from your gut anyway.
17:21Speaker 0I don't know, man. I mean, my answer to that is very simple. I mean, it's it could be. I don't know. It's not having much information. You're right. Have not I have I have not heard of that,
17:33Speaker 1sounds like it kinda I mean, this is how you do it, this is how you run a deductive test on yourself is, right? Stomp it and it stops. If you stop it, stop, you know, but it could have been a, you could have had not a great product, It
17:47Speaker 1capsules could have been made made out of some material that you don't your body doesn't agree with. I bet if it was just pure BPC
18:00Speaker 1without a capsule, I bet you would have no problem at all with your gut, because your gut is filled with this stuff anyway.
18:10Speaker 0Why don't you do that? Find a different source and try it. And if it's not that, then there you go, found a different It's probably those pills. It could be the maker of the pills.
18:23Speaker 0Like, let's just be honest, there are gonna be some bad companies out there. So it's just the way the world works, you know this.
18:34Speaker 0especially the people that are injecting peptides, right? Not the pills. You're injecting this into your body. Please don't go with the cheap itch just because it's the cheapest company.
18:42Speaker 0If that's the type of person you are, that's rad. If you want deals, that's awesome. When you're talking about injecting
19:15Speaker 1and they all draw up and your syringe still looks like perfect clear water and no problem, but sometimes
19:23Speaker 1there are some peptides out there that when you draw that 1 in, boom, it just reacts with the other ones and turns cloudy or gels up. And I'm not talking about AOD, something that would gel up on its own. I'm talking about
19:34Speaker 1the question that we came to was, I have had that happen when I was drawing up like 4 different peptides, and I do not know which 1 it was that didn't react with the others.
19:48Speaker 0But I will keep trying and try to get back to you. Yeah, we've touched on this quite a bit. What peptides you can't mix in 1 stack. The way that I read this was like,
20:03Speaker 0or too much HGH if that's kind of what you're going after. Like, you can't take too much of a certain thing,
20:26Speaker 0Obviously, your research on what you're taking. What does this peptide do? Do the research. And if you have 4 that do the same thing, you don't need all 4. Right? Yeah. You need to spread it out.
20:51Speaker 1Do some research for yourself. Right? Just double check. Now that today's world has chat GPT. Yeah.
21:08Speaker 0best peptide with Retta. I mean, 1st and foremost, Retta is in a world of its own, and it's always gonna boil down to your
21:14Speaker 0ultimate objectives. Are you hormonally optimized? There's a lot of different things that come into the answer of that. I know that's such a big question, and you don't probably like that answer, but
21:36Speaker 0It's just the only negative on that is it's just a lot. You got to inject a mil per day, so that's just a lot. So those are my 2 favorites that I would put. AOD,
21:45Speaker 0I love AOD. I think it's great. Mean, so let me answer that there. That's where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go AOD. I think AOD is great. What AOD is is just the last part of the HGH chain that burns fat.
21:58Speaker 0So I take HGH, but I love AOD because it's just the last part. What's its job? Burn fat. That's it. That's my AOD.
22:19Speaker 1fat burning 1 works really, really well for you is by trying them. But I would probably go with 5 amino-1MQ
22:31Speaker 1right, controlling your diet obviously, but boosting your metabolism and actively getting rid of the fat. 5 amino-1MQ,
22:39Speaker 1it just it pre mobilizes your fat. So think of a block of ice, right? And you want to melt that block of ice. It's going be a lot easier to melt it when you chip it down, right, into tiny little ice chips, right? Then it will melt down. So of 5 m 1 mq is doing that to your fat. Right? Pre chipping it down and then now Reta can burn it out. But AOD, there's a lot of good ones, but I mean, there's we can answer that 1 for days. I mean, 1 cool thing that I would say, AOD would be my answer, but what I would tell you is what a cool 1 would be is Tesamorelin.
23:11Speaker 0It's not necessarily a fat burner, but it does focus right on that bottom belly fat, and you can add like you're adding something else. The red is gonna kick ass. Listen, you're taking Retrutide,
23:26Speaker 0Add something different in. You already have 1 for fat loss. Why don't we add in a Tesamorelin at night? It's gonna help you sleep. It's gonna help your body generate more human growth hormone, and it's gonna focus in on that belly fat. That would be my answer. I'm gonna change it to Tesamorelin.
23:42Speaker 1alright. Next 1. I listened to your podcast of peptide of the week with guest El Capitan.
24:25Speaker 0I mean, this is just gonna be, you know, a matter of an opinion, you know, I don't know. I mean, personally,
24:38Speaker 0So I would probably go simple and go with that answer. I would go with just the Tesamorelin and maybe an Ipamorelin. There's a blend, you could even add them together,
24:47Speaker 0but that would be my answer. I would go a little bit softer instead of the 4. I would go with the 1, maybe 2 blend.
24:58Speaker 1I would like to know his age. I wish I knew his age. Yeah. And how right. For sure. Right? The older you do the older you are, the better these these growth hormone security guards work
25:13Speaker 1I frankly wouldn't really even bother unless you're a woman unless you're a woman, but, like, you're not gonna do anything much to you. K? Yeah. But
25:55Speaker 0If you like had a lot of experience with peptides, you've taken them and you know you have more experience in 10, take the 4. But if you're new to peptides, no, man. I would go to just the Tesamorelin. Start there. Start slow. You can always add. Yeah. And and I and I am a firm believer in taking a GHRP
26:33Speaker 1Easy answer. Done. I would agree. That that's yes. Do that. Especially with Tia Daigas, the big the big the great thing there is with these GLP-1s is people
26:44Speaker 1or the bad thing is it makes people not eat. The brilliant thing about Retta is it actually gives you an appetite. You can eat, you wanna eat, and especially if you're
26:55Speaker 1You need to keep you need to keep eating. You just need to eat healthy, and that's what Retta does. That's 1 thing that it does. So, yeah, dude. I would say I would agree with that, and then it's never going to hurt like the, you know, a TRT versus HRT, right? HRT is essentially
27:30Speaker 0answers, obviously, we're reading an answer or question, and we would ask more if we were talking, right? So how old are you? That's always gonna be
27:38Speaker 0a good 1 because it kind of gives you a beacon on, Will said if you're 30 and you're a dude, don't recommend HGH
28:11Speaker 1next 1, hi JD and Will. Thank you for what you do. Peptides are becoming my new obsession. I'm a female, 30 years old. I lost 25 pounds on semaglutide earlier this year.
28:29Speaker 1I am at the point where my goal is shifting from a weight number goal to a look slash physique goal. I'm using the Reddit to help ingrain the healthy eating habits the GLPs have created.
28:41Speaker 1I would now like to recount my body and build muscle. I lift 3 to 5 times a week consistently.
28:50Speaker 0or add a GHRP like Tessa or Ipah to help achieve this goal or something else? I'd like to add just 1 at a time to understand the effects on my body. Smart. Thank you so much. Great. That was a great question, man. Good job. That was great. I mean, my answer would be oh, man, I'm a computer. My answer would probably be the Tesamorelin again. I know I've been using that a lot, but I can just go off experience with life, man. And, you know, I know you're a little bit older than my bride, but not much. Not that much older. Man, I have her on a small dose of the Tesamorelin
29:22Speaker 0it has done wonders for my bride. She is just, man, she looks the best she's ever looked. And
29:29Speaker 1I I think Tesamorelin has a big part of that. I just think that it does really well for her. You know? It yeah. And that's for her. She is she's she's ripped up. Yeah. But and that's for her.
29:41Speaker 1question. You better start lifting weights now. So people see a lot of weight loss at the beginning. Right? And then it gets harder. Right? That that that curve
29:52Speaker 1evening out, and so now is the time. Absolutely. You need to start adding a little bit of muscle if you want to continue to burn fat, right? Those last few pounds of fat are the hardest to lose. Most people can't do it because they lose lost all their muscle while losing the fat and now their metabolism
30:27Speaker 1SLU-two is awesome too though, just because it's a mitochondrial peptide doesn't mean it can't add muscle, and especially if you're lifting. SLU-two, 1 of the beautiful things about that is it will help you through nutrient partitioning and
30:41Speaker 1basically puts your body in a state where it thinks it has just exercised all day long. And when we just exercise,
30:47Speaker 1our body now goes, damn, I need nutrients. Right? And so when you've lifted weights, your body is shoving protein into your muscles to rebuild them. Right? It's shoving vitamins, nutrients in where they're supposed to be, getting rid of all this bad fat because what the hell I don't need it if I'm trying to if I wanna run.
31:16Speaker 1including building muscle. So eat a lot of protein. Force yourself to eat. Eat small frequent meals like Retta is probably forcing you to do.
31:23Speaker 1Keep going, though. Keep kicking ass and yeah. I mean, it's awesome to see people like you there. Awesome. Love it. Alright. Next 1, stack Retta with Tesamorelin,
31:45Speaker 0I mean, again, who are you? What do you do? How much weight do you need to leave? There's a lot of what is behind all that that are what, you know? But in my opinion, no. I mean, again,
31:54Speaker 0they're chains of amino acids. So if you are brand new and you've never taken a peptide, yes, don't do that. If you are seasoned and you've been taking some peptides and you're used to it, then sure, man, you start to want to take more because you see they're amazing.
32:14Speaker 0which 1 does what, then that's a bad no, then you shouldn't. But again, if you're seasoned and you've tested them 1st and saw what they do and they work for you, then absolutely, man, run it. Yeah.
32:32Speaker 1is is really important. Right? This is like, you're gonna be doing this hopefully for a long time. You let's the faster you can figure out what really works with your body and and what doesn't work as well, the better you'll be off. Do I think that no. Did card reading I love card reading.
32:48Speaker 1I love card reading when I sleep. I think that, yeah, nothing in that stack is redundant,
33:31Speaker 0can take too much copper, so you know, that is 1 of the peptides. Like if you take too much copper, it's not a good thing. So that is, there you go. I do not think with any means, I'm assuming you're talking about the GHK-
33:59Speaker 0Yeah. I think you should. I think they would run great together. I mean, wife and I do both. I love GHK-3CU.
34:20Speaker 0It sometimes that little sucker stings like a little the bitch, but not every time. And
34:26Speaker 0but it for, like, an hour, I get it. It's pretty painful for me for even an hour, but, I mean, dude,
34:36Speaker 1I use the face serum every day, and that's totally fine. I agree with him, and I don't really get much pain. I get a little sting, but, like, not the
34:47Speaker 1So then we're gonna next is we're gonna do is there any peptide that help with migraines?
34:58Speaker 0I mean, I don't think there's any direct peptide that this is the objective to to help with your migraines. I mean, simple, like, obviously, the the healing ones can help with the BPC-one
35:10Speaker 0100. That's the only answer I would have. But no, I think that I don't think there's an actual peptide that's gonna be directed to your migraine. I think a lot of the nootropics,
35:18Speaker 1right? So the nootropic peptides is helping with your brain, and I guess it depends what's causing that migraine.
35:25Speaker 1That's gonna be the question, and that's then then you might find an ampullary. Soft water. And
35:56Speaker 1use 1 and it might cure your migraine. It might not, but I think that's your best best bet. And the final question is, hey, guys. Love your stuff. I've been dealing with some low back and high hamstring issues.
36:14Speaker 1I've read that you should have a full body scan and blood work to check for cancer or tumors prior.
36:33Speaker 1run these like, it's not necessary to run to get, like, a blood test before running any peptides, but that's not really what you're asking for. I think a cancer
36:41Speaker 1they're making tissue grow. They are making tissue grow. If you have an active cancer,
36:49Speaker 1I probably would not take those if you know that you have an active cancer. And I guess the only key way you know is if you, I guess, get scanned for I can't get scanned for cancer.
36:59Speaker 0I don't wanna be But you should be doing anything. You know, but you need to do it before you take BPC-one
37:05Speaker 0hundred 57 and CB-five hundred. Those are so healthy for you. My answer is, dude, just take those should be fine, man. I I don't
37:12Speaker 1If think you have if you think you have cancer, it might be, like, a good idea to check it out. Yeah. Chances are you don't, but like I would I would say that before taking BPC is in TB 500 as a general rule, you'd you don't really need to get scanned for
37:31Speaker 1and I don't know, there's still nothing really even proven that says that they will make that cancer grow if you happen to have 1, but as a general rule,
37:47Speaker 0Yeah, so again, you know, my answer on that, I'll close on this because that's the last question I know Will has to take off, but if
37:53Speaker 0you're talking about your hormones, testosterone replacement, things like that, go get your blood work done 1st. Absolutely, 100%.
37:59Speaker 0Nobody should be telling you you should take testosterone until you get your blood work done, testosterone replacement.
38:06Speaker 0you don't need to get your blood work for peptides. Again, they're chains of amino acids. They're not affecting your hormones in a way that testosterone
38:24Speaker 0my friends. Will has to split it, but man, we are appreciative. We love these questions. These have been great. We don't really read them until right before, so we give you the best answers
38:31Speaker 0right from our hearts and our heads, and that's it. So that is it, guys. We're gonna come out. We're gonna be dropping the pep title week next week.
38:39Speaker 1And anything else before we split, Will? No. Keep them coming, dude. I don't know. This is fun. I think this is great. Isn't it great?
38:51Speaker 1what we know. And, again, these are just our opinions and based on my own personal research with my own body and a bunch of my Alright. Long, long time. And lots and lots of witnessing
39:03Speaker 1feedback from lots and lots of people over a long period of time. And I like the HRT. I like the testosterone and
39:10Speaker 0some of those questions too. So I know a lot of men because I have a Finnish channel. Know a lot of men have a lot of those questions. So welcome.
39:20Speaker 0We will do our best. Women. Yeah, man. Keep coming. Okay, guys. You guys have a great week, and we'll see you on the next round. Peace.