Peptide Q&A #2 Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-2/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast. 0:03 Speaker 0: I'm your host JD Denham. Right across the way is my buddy, mister William T. Haas. Welcome back, brother. Good 0:11 Speaker 0: to be back. Excited about today. What do you think? 0:14 Speaker 1: Dude, I'm excited. Like, I think that these pick these questions 0:19 Speaker 1: that we've got, like, people care. 0:21 Speaker 1: And They're they're thought through. They're, like, valid, educated, 0:25 Speaker 1: legitimate questions. 0:27 Speaker 1: And because the people are like watching and learning and 0:31 Speaker 1: yeah, using this 0:32 Speaker 1: stuff correctly 0:34 Speaker 1: or want to use it correctly. 0:37 Speaker 0: But putting that into their questions. That's right. Yeah. 0:41 Speaker 0: So we are gonna muscle through these, my friends, because 0:46 Speaker 0: we'll have some stuff to get to and we lagged a little bit, but that's life, right? So we're gonna get right into this because I'm sure that's what you want, came for anyway, 0:53 Speaker 0: answers on these questions. So I'm gonna start us off, what do we think? Go ahead, do it up. Do you work with a specific 1:01 Speaker 0: clinic or provider for your TRT and HGH prescriptions? 1:05 Speaker 0: I see a lot of people 1:07 Speaker 0: that don't mention taking HCG and TRT, 1:10 Speaker 0: so is it hard to know who 1:13 Speaker 0: no, hard to know 1:15 Speaker 0: I'm sorry guys, I gotta put my glasses on. I suck. 1:19 Speaker 0: So it's hard to know who they're talking about when it comes to hormones. Can't see. Yeah. So he said, Do you guys have somebody 1:27 Speaker 1: who you go to for your TOT and HGH prescriptions? 1:30 Speaker 1: He does not see many peep he doesn't see a lot of people 1:34 Speaker 1: mentioning taking HCG 1:36 Speaker 1: with their TRT, 1:38 Speaker 1: so it's hard to know 1:40 Speaker 1: who to talk to who knows what the hell they're talking about. 1:43 Speaker 0: You said that. You read that better than me. Yeah, that was a summarized I came out the gates on a dud. 1:49 Speaker 0: Yeah. But my answer to that is, 1st and foremost, people, we don't sell HCG, 1:54 Speaker 0: TRT, or HGH, 1:56 Speaker 0: so this can only come from in regards to our opinions. We've taken them all, both of us. We have a lot of experience with it. I'm a huge fan of the TRT and HGH. I've said it numerous times, but if you haven't heard me say it, those 2 are my staples. 2:13 Speaker 0: I will be on testosterone replacement 2:15 Speaker 0: for the rest of my life. I have no problem with that. I don't know why anybody cares. And I will run low dose of HGH most likely for a very long time. I run no higher than 2 IUs. I've never gone above it. It's worked out really well for me. Now the HCG, 2:31 Speaker 0: I don't say I take it religiously for sure. 2:34 Speaker 0: I have used HCG 2:36 Speaker 0: to get my bride pregnant on both times that she got pregnant. So yes, I'm currently taking it in high doses Monday, Wednesday, Friday now because she doesn't stop pestering me for baby 3, just so you know. 2:51 Speaker 0: I'm taking in just I don't mind telling people because they'll ask, How much am I taking? I'm taking 500 IUs Monday, 2:58 Speaker 0: Wednesday, 2:59 Speaker 0: and Friday, 3:00 Speaker 0: and I do that, 3:01 Speaker 0: and that has worked for me in the past. TB- Of what? Oh, HCG. Yeah. Okay. HCG to get my wife pregnant because I've been able to get my bride pregnant twice while being on testosterone replacement. 3:12 Speaker 1: It's worked out well. TB-1.3 And that's the 2nd time the doctor called him and called you and said, Hey, I know I told you that 3:19 Speaker 1: you were gonna be wrong, but can I have your protocol please? Literally. 3:23 Speaker 0: TB- I could give to my other patients? You haven't heard that story. My doctor said it couldn't be done and I went home and studied and I'm like, Well, it says right here that if I do this, this, this, it can be done. 3:33 Speaker 0: And I proved it to him twice. Now he called me for the protocol. 3:38 Speaker 1: Huge story. I'm like 9 for 9 with my friends getting their babies pregnant. I was the 1st person to tell you to take HCG too. I said, Why isn't your doctor? So anyway, to answer this question, 3:48 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of debate amongst doctors 3:51 Speaker 1: whether HCG 3:53 Speaker 1: really 3:54 Speaker 1: helps your testosterone, 3:56 Speaker 1: right, or not? Or does it just make you a little bit more fertile? I mean, there's still debates in your doctors saying, I don't even think it makes you more fertile, right? 4:04 Speaker 1: So you're gonna see 4:07 Speaker 1: there is a difference in opinion. You know, it can't hurt, but I will tell you this. 4:13 Speaker 1: My well, here's what I think. 4:17 Speaker 1: A if you're taking a higher dose of tests, right, 4:21 Speaker 1: there's no point in taking HCG during that time because your nuts aren't even listening. Right? They've got so much. They're not waking up. They're asleep for the long for hibernation, 4:32 Speaker 1: you know? Yeah. Only when you pull that out 4:35 Speaker 1: can you add HCG in or even, you know, oftentimes maybe towards the very last couple weeks of a cycle when your natural test is really low, people will say, Hey, 4:44 Speaker 1: man, I don't feel good. I don't, I'm still still in my cycle, but I don't feel like I did at the beginning. Well, it's because you have been on for a while. You've been running a high doses and your natural 4:53 Speaker 1: test output has plummeted. And now that might be a good idea to run HCG 4:58 Speaker 1: the end. I think that while on TRT, 5:02 Speaker 1: would personally do it absolutely. I would run it concurrently. Would run 5:06 Speaker 1: your test and just run your HCG right along with it 5:10 Speaker 1: at a lower dose, 5:12 Speaker 1: at about 5:13 Speaker 1: what he is saying. 5:15 Speaker 0: Yep. If 5:16 Speaker 0: you're not running HCG and you're on testosterone, 5:19 Speaker 0: both just now he just said that, I agree, you should. You should be taking HCG. I mean, some people don't care. I mean, to 5:26 Speaker 0: just kind of answer a little bit further on it, it's going to help your balls from shrinking or it's going to help them from shrinking more. Legitly 5:33 Speaker 0: true because I'm telling you, 5:35 Speaker 0: with experience, it does work. It does stop them from shrinking too much. And that doesn't happen to every man. It doesn't. A lot of men, that doesn't happen to you, but a lot of them it does. Like every man doesn't get gynocholomastia, 5:44 Speaker 0: but 5:45 Speaker 1: a lot of men do. Some people do. Some people only, some people don't get gyno, but they get water retention. Some people don't get that. They get get a lot of acne from estrogen. Right? 5:56 Speaker 1: Also, I will point out right now on TRRT, these people, 6:00 Speaker 1: it's okay to take an estrogen blocker, to take Arimidex, 6:03 Speaker 1: Anastrozil, Aromasin. 6:06 Speaker 1: You know, it's all relevant to the amount of tests that you're taking. If you're taking a lower dose, you probably don't need as much, but you need to 6:15 Speaker 1: take some if you're having any estrogen side effects, dude. You need to take as 6:20 Speaker 1: little as possible 6:21 Speaker 1: to make sure you have 0 side effects and then be consistent with that. 6:26 Speaker 1: We don't want spikes. We don't want up and down. Yeah. For those of you guys, have 6:31 Speaker 0: Will knows this, but I have gyno problems for I've just man, testosterone converts to estrogen for me. It's been like that since day 1. 6:39 Speaker 0: So you will see 1 of the tricks is for those guys, 6:43 Speaker 0: 1 shot a week if you're done TRT, 6:45 Speaker 0: I would suggest if you are gyno prone to stretch it out through the week, even daily, small doses daily is gonna help someone that is more susceptible to gyno. So 1 6:56 Speaker 0: shot at the week could 6:58 Speaker 1: it's just it's better for you to break it down. Yeah. My point. Yeah. With your hormones, the name of the game is consistency. 7:05 Speaker 1: We do not want big spikes 7:07 Speaker 1: and then a drop off and then another spike because every new hormone in your body, right, everything, every other hormone is predicated on each other, right? So 1 thing changes and it causes a chain reaction 7:19 Speaker 1: and we just want things to be level and and Oh. 7:22 Speaker 1: So on this guy, you know, I think JD will say 7:27 Speaker 1: reach out to him after this and he can right, JD? You can send reach out to you after the show and shoot you a DM. Yep. Alright, I'll go to the next 1. Are peptides 7:37 Speaker 1: so question is, are peptides addictive? Ever since I started GLP-one 7:43 Speaker 1: 4 months ago, 7:45 Speaker 1: I've been experimenting with other peptides and looking for the latest and greatest. 7:50 Speaker 0: I'm 7:52 Speaker 0: expecting the GLP-one is semaglutide. 7:54 Speaker 0: Right? We're gonna assume that he's talking to semaglutide. Yep. 7:57 Speaker 1: I think that so are peptides addictive? That's a blanket statement, but my 8:03 Speaker 1: blanket response is no. 8:06 Speaker 1: I don't know any that are addictive. Right? That's the beauty of most of these peptides, right, is there is no, like, withdrawal period. There is no, like, let down on the back end. 8:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, real drugs or 8:19 Speaker 1: or steroids. 8:21 Speaker 1: You you know, we can always be addicted to the kinda like, hey, I do a little bit faster results or but that's not an actual addiction. 8:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. In regards to, like, health care. Don't know of any peptides that cause any physical addiction. 8:35 Speaker 0: They're just good for you. I think that's good on that 1. Okay, so I'm 61 year old female. Are peptides for me? Is it too late to start with some strength training? 8:46 Speaker 0: Absolutely not. I think that everybody I will be lifting till the day that I die, if you have, if you are 61, if you are 81, I think it's great. Get your body moving. Keep your body moving. Keep your body moving. Are peptides for you? I'll answer this before Will, so he can answer it in his way. I think they're for everybody. I think almost everybody, adults should, would benefit 9:07 Speaker 0: by some form of a peptide. 9:09 Speaker 0: They're chains of amino acids, man. They're not bad. They're great. So for a 60 year old female, 9:17 Speaker 0: that's getting up there. Your body's gonna start breaking down. It's called life, called age. It is what it is. Peptides can help you age well. 9:25 Speaker 0: They can help you. I mean, any 61 year old, regardless of your lifestyle, 9:30 Speaker 0: has been beat down a little bit by life. 9:33 Speaker 0: So 9:34 Speaker 0: the typical ones for healing, obviously the BPC-157 9:38 Speaker 0: or the TB-five hundred, those should be probably staples as you continue to age just because they're amazing. 9:46 Speaker 1: We think, well What you should know is it not too late for you. Now is if you haven't done this already, 9:53 Speaker 1: should 9:55 Speaker 1: Elder people should be lifting weights, be strength training. 9:58 Speaker 1: That's even more important at that age, right? Because your bones are starting to get a little bit brittle, right? When we actually lift weights 10:05 Speaker 1: and 10:06 Speaker 1: kind of overload on there, not only is it breaking down these micro tears in your muscles, right, but also little tiny little micro fractures in your bones, and what does our body do? It adapts. It always, always, always gets 10:20 Speaker 1: stronger 10:21 Speaker 1: when we put it through some trauma, okay? Right? What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and that's actually true. So when you 10:29 Speaker 1: stress those bones and they don't snap in 0.5, they will recalcify 10:34 Speaker 1: and, right, and get stronger, and that has helped. 10:37 Speaker 1: So 100% 10:38 Speaker 1: lifting weights, by the way hey, if you wanna burn fat, if you wanna burn the most amount of fat, strength training. Right? 10:44 Speaker 1: Don't do cardio. 10:45 Speaker 1: Look at the group of of of 5, like, old fat dudes who play basketball at your gym 3 times a week, right, and they're still fat, but like, damn, those dudes are running. 10:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nope. That's why. Because they don't do lifting weights. They are just killing their metabolism. They're burning off all their muscle, playing. 11:01 Speaker 1: Lifting weights is for everybody. Are peptides for you? Hell yeah. So in combination, 11:06 Speaker 1: taking take 11:08 Speaker 1: 2, you know, HGH 11:10 Speaker 1: secretagogues, 11:11 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin, 11:13 Speaker 1: that 11:14 Speaker 1: will 11:16 Speaker 1: help 11:17 Speaker 1: strengthen those bones also. 11:19 Speaker 1: It'll help strengthen your skin. Right? NAD is a great 1. That'll really like a mitochondrial peptide to AD. To, 11:26 Speaker 1: yeah, to to strengthen your 11:29 Speaker 1: skin in your in your actual cells, 11:32 Speaker 1: even thymosin alpha. 11:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. And which is helps just regulate your immune system. 11:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that You know, I would take more and more. I would take more and more and more as I get older. Right? Really, I would. 11:49 Speaker 0: Yeah, I go for wanna talk real quick. Peptide of the week is Thymosin Alpha-one, right? And I just got off the phone with a good buddy of mine, Joe Brown, and 11:57 Speaker 0: I was telling him about peptides, blah, blah, blah, I don't know, a few months ago. So I sent him some Thymosin Alpha and a few other ones and whatnot. And so he's been getting the Thymosin Alpha. He's a guy that gets sick all the time. He just went to Europe 12:09 Speaker 0: and he always gets sick, he told me, every flight his whole life. And he did not get sick, 12:16 Speaker 0: Europe and back, on a on a a long flight with his kids, and he's like, dude, I've this stuff is amazing. Isn't that cool? That's awesome. That's that's really cool. Doesn't surprise me. Get it, bro. What's the next 1? Alright. Are there any 12:29 Speaker 1: there are there any peptides that can help raise testosterone without actually taking TRT? 12:34 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time getting my doc to prescribe some since I'm in the normal range according to the lab. 12:41 Speaker 1: Okay. 1st of all, 12:43 Speaker 1: I was subjective. 12:45 Speaker 1: What's normal? I know that like Kaiser's prescribing, you know, standard is you have to be below like a 125, 12:51 Speaker 1: 150 like nanograms per deciliter, which is like you you can't barely get out of bed. You haven't had a boner in a month. 12:57 Speaker 1: That sucks. 12:59 Speaker 0: But that's not really what they say? Yeah. I think so. Oh my god. 13:03 Speaker 1: It's either like 150 or 300. 13:05 Speaker 1: I mean, our friend 13:06 Speaker 1: did that and they turned them down. 13:09 Speaker 1: A normal 18 year old, 21 year old kid should be, you know, 1,200, 13:14 Speaker 1: maybe 1000. That's where we're at our peak, guys. 13:17 Speaker 1: At 35, it starts declining. 13:20 Speaker 1: You know, these are all just average numbers, but it starts declining, 13:25 Speaker 1: but I'm not a doctor, but I think anybody can live happily, healthy, and safely supplementing at like 800, 13:33 Speaker 1: at a test score of 800 nanograms per deciliter. That in no way has any relation to, like, how much test you actually give yourself. 13:41 Speaker 1: That's just your blood lab readout now. And then assuming 13:45 Speaker 1: your free testosterone is also in the normal range, which means you're actually using that testosterone that you have in your system. 13:52 Speaker 1: Is there any peptides? 13:55 Speaker 1: Man, this stuff, there's not I mean, no. There is no perfect. There is there is no match. There's no there isn't anything that is nearly as good. Testosterone is the golden elixir. Right? Like, that's what we're made of. But let's not 14:07 Speaker 0: stay past this point, man. Like you, the peptides 14:11 Speaker 0: are amazing. We both love them, right? But 14:13 Speaker 0: again, 14:15 Speaker 0: you need to be hormonally optimized. You do. You need to have your hormones right, man. And if it says normal, so we're not going to get where your normal range is, but let's just say what my experience is with most of men I've worked with that weren't on TRT. They were a little bit under 300. So let's just use that as an example. So if that is the case, you gotta answer the question, 14:37 Speaker 0: I would strongly recommend you get on testosterone replacement like right away. Peptides are great, start there though. You need to get on the testosterone replacement. And if your doctor is saying that he won't, there are doctors everywhere. 14:49 Speaker 0: Go get your blood work done. You can DM me, I can send you to a good buddy of mine that's a doctor, legit doctor, and he will pull your blood work, and we can help you. Don't get anything out of it. I'm not telling you you should, but 15:01 Speaker 1: you can find a doctor that knows what he's talking about. If that's the case and he's saying normal is 300 or lower, dude, find a new doctor. Find a new doctor. Sorry. They are probably bound by their hospital or their insurance, like Kaiser, which is an HMO, and they are those doctors are bound by those prescribing recommendations. So there are plenty of clinics and licensed doctors who actually have their license and know what they're talking about that will prescribe based on symptoms and not based on a test. 15:30 Speaker 1: And that's what you need. So, 15:32 Speaker 1: yes, reach out. There's that. Now- I'll lead I'll lead you to where the somewhere that can help if you want. Yeah. Now the best closest thing, HCG. HCG is a a peptide. 15:45 Speaker 1: It's debatable, right, just HCG, how much it's actually gonna do to really boost your 15:50 Speaker 1: Kisspeptin 15:52 Speaker 1: is another 1 to try. Gonadorelin, 15:57 Speaker 1: Enclomiphene, but 16:00 Speaker 1: which is not a peptide, 16:03 Speaker 1: that 1 is actually really showing results. 16:06 Speaker 1: That's raising people's testosterone. 16:09 Speaker 0: I've just read with that that even though raising the testosterone, they're not really getting the full benefits of if they just took testosterone, man. Like, you're not gonna feel the vigor. 16:17 Speaker 0: No. You know? It's just, I mean, so again, just to be honest with you, brother, get a different doctor. There's so many options. You just want to get on testosterone replacement. Don't go to peptides for your hormones. 16:29 Speaker 0: Go to 16:30 Speaker 0: a doctor that can prescribe you the right stuff. 16:33 Speaker 1: Okay, next. 16:35 Speaker 1: Alright. What's your opinion? I'll read for you, dude. What's your opinion on BPC-one 16:41 Speaker 1: hundred 57 capsules for the gut? I took some and got an upset stomach about a week later. I wasn't sure it was the pills or something I ate, but after a week of an upset stomach 16:51 Speaker 1: and a BRAT diet, I cut out the pills and the symptoms went away. Now I'm thinking it was the pills. Have you heard of this happening? 17:01 Speaker 0: A BRAT diet. 17:03 Speaker 0: 1st off, I'm assuming that's an actual diet. I've never heard of that diet, but it doesn't matter. 17:08 Speaker 0: No, I mean, there's a lot of what ifs in that question. 17:11 Speaker 0: It could be the pills, it could be a lot of different things. 17:15 Speaker 0: BPC, 17:16 Speaker 0: when it comes to the stomach, I mean, like we've said already, it comes from your gut anyway. 17:21 Speaker 0: I don't know, man. I mean, my answer to that is very simple. I mean, it's it could be. I don't know. It's not having much information. You're right. Have not I have I have not heard of that, 17:31 Speaker 1: but it probably 17:33 Speaker 1: sounds like it kinda I mean, this is how you do it, this is how you run a deductive test on yourself is, right? Stomp it and it stops. If you stop it, stop, you know, but it could have been a, you could have had not a great product, It 17:45 Speaker 1: could have some fillers you're not happy with, 17:47 Speaker 1: capsules could have been made made out of some material that you don't your body doesn't agree with. I bet if it was just pure BPC 17:55 Speaker 1: and like legitimate 17:57 Speaker 1: human grade BPC 18:00 Speaker 1: without a capsule, I bet you would have no problem at all with your gut, because your gut is filled with this stuff anyway. 18:07 Speaker 1: So it probably is, and I would find a different source. 18:10 Speaker 0: Why don't you do that? Find a different source and try it. And if it's not that, then there you go, found a different It's probably those pills. It could be the maker of the pills. 18:19 Speaker 0: Gonna have a lot of companies jumping on the peptide bandwagon, 18:23 Speaker 0: Like, let's just be honest, there are gonna be some bad companies out there. So it's just the way the world works, you know this. 18:29 Speaker 0: Me just give you my suggestion in regards to peptides in general, 18:34 Speaker 0: especially the people that are injecting peptides, right? Not the pills. You're injecting this into your body. Please don't go with the cheap itch just because it's the cheapest company. 18:42 Speaker 0: If that's the type of person you are, that's rad. If you want deals, that's awesome. When you're talking about injecting 18:48 Speaker 0: something into your body, 18:50 Speaker 0: I don't think that recognize 18:52 Speaker 0: don't go with the cheapest 18:53 Speaker 0: company. They're the cheapest for a reason. 18:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna say that lightly. I think it's hilarious. Yeah. Uh-huh. 19:00 Speaker 1: Okay, what peptides 19:02 Speaker 1: you can't 19:03 Speaker 1: mix in 1 stack? So last week, we did talk about drawing 19:07 Speaker 1: from maybe 3 different models and 19:10 Speaker 1: oftentimes 19:12 Speaker 1: it's just perfectly fine. They're all water based 19:15 Speaker 1: and they all draw up and your syringe still looks like perfect clear water and no problem, but sometimes 19:23 Speaker 1: there are some peptides out there that when you draw that 1 in, boom, it just reacts with the other ones and turns cloudy or gels up. And I'm not talking about AOD, something that would gel up on its own. I'm talking about 19:34 Speaker 1: the question that we came to was, I have had that happen when I was drawing up like 4 different peptides, and I do not know which 1 it was that didn't react with the others. 19:46 Speaker 1: I don't have a good answer for this person. 19:48 Speaker 0: But I will keep trying and try to get back to you. Yeah, we've touched on this quite a bit. What peptides you can't mix in 1 stack. The way that I read this was like, 19:58 Speaker 0: if you're trying to, you can't, I wouldn't recommend 20:01 Speaker 0: too many secretagogues 20:03 Speaker 0: or too much HGH if that's kind of what you're going after. Like, you can't take too much of a certain thing, 20:09 Speaker 0: same thing. Like, you don't wanna take like 5 secretagogues. 20:12 Speaker 0: That's kind of how I read that 1. Or GLP-one, 20:15 Speaker 1: 2, and 3. Yes, there you go. You're not gonna take 20:18 Speaker 0: all 3 of those, right? That's 20:21 Speaker 0: too much. So just use your brain and try to think logical. 20:26 Speaker 0: Obviously, your research on what you're taking. What does this peptide do? Do the research. And if you have 4 that do the same thing, you don't need all 4. Right? Yeah. You need to spread it out. 20:36 Speaker 1: I haven't heard any that. 20:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. No. Actually, you're probably right. I 20:41 Speaker 1: don't 20:42 Speaker 1: I can't tell you any that just directly 20:47 Speaker 1: contradict each other. 20:49 Speaker 1: Chat GPT. 20:51 Speaker 1: Do some research for yourself. Right? Just double check. Now that today's world has chat GPT. Yeah. 20:58 Speaker 1: Alright. Here's the next 1. What's the best peptide to stack with Retta for fat loss? 21:04 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Judy. 21:07 Speaker 1: I mean, 21:08 Speaker 0: best peptide with Retta. I mean, 1st and foremost, Retta is in a world of its own, and it's always gonna boil down to your 21:14 Speaker 0: ultimate objectives. Are you hormonally optimized? There's a lot of different things that come into the answer of that. I know that's such a big question, and you don't probably like that answer, but 21:23 Speaker 0: I I like 5Amino-1MQ. 21:26 Speaker 0: That's 1 of my favorites. 21:28 Speaker 0: I like L carnitine. I love L carnitine. 21:32 Speaker 0: I think L carnitine is great for people that lift weights specifically. 21:36 Speaker 0: It's just the only negative on that is it's just a lot. You got to inject a mil per day, so that's just a lot. So those are my 2 favorites that I would put. AOD, 21:45 Speaker 0: I love AOD. I think it's great. Mean, so let me answer that there. That's where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go AOD. I think AOD is great. What AOD is is just the last part of the HGH chain that burns fat. 21:56 Speaker 0: Correct. That's it. HGH. 21:58 Speaker 0: So I take HGH, but I love AOD because it's just the last part. What's its job? Burn fat. That's it. That's my AOD. 22:05 Speaker 1: I've I kind of agree with everything you've said, and 22:09 Speaker 1: I think it boils down to, like, dude, different peptides 22:12 Speaker 1: work differently for different people. Right. The only way you really know which 22:19 Speaker 1: fat burning 1 works really, really well for you is by trying them. But I would probably go with 5 amino-1MQ 22:26 Speaker 1: because it had like Reta's doing a damn good job of boosting 22:30 Speaker 1: metabolism, 22:31 Speaker 1: right, controlling your diet obviously, but boosting your metabolism and actively getting rid of the fat. 5 amino-1MQ, 22:37 Speaker 1: think of it like this, 22:39 Speaker 1: it just it pre mobilizes your fat. So think of a block of ice, right? And you want to melt that block of ice. It's going be a lot easier to melt it when you chip it down, right, into tiny little ice chips, right? Then it will melt down. So of 5 m 1 mq is doing that to your fat. Right? Pre chipping it down and then now Reta can burn it out. But AOD, there's a lot of good ones, but I mean, there's we can answer that 1 for days. I mean, 1 cool thing that I would say, AOD would be my answer, but what I would tell you is what a cool 1 would be is Tesamorelin. 23:11 Speaker 0: It's not necessarily a fat burner, but it does focus right on that bottom belly fat, and you can add like you're adding something else. The red is gonna kick ass. Listen, you're taking Retrutide, 23:22 Speaker 0: it's a scientific breakthrough in my opinion. Like, you're killing it already. 23:26 Speaker 0: Add something different in. You already have 1 for fat loss. Why don't we add in a Tesamorelin at night? It's gonna help you sleep. It's gonna help your body generate more human growth hormone, and it's gonna focus in on that belly fat. That would be my answer. I'm gonna change it to Tesamorelin. 23:40 Speaker 1: K. So 23:42 Speaker 1: alright. Next 1. I listened to your podcast of peptide of the week with guest El Capitan. 23:48 Speaker 1: With 23:49 Speaker 1: Ali. So I have been thinking of adding Tesamorelin 23:52 Speaker 1: into my tool bag. I already take TRT, and my T level from my last lab was 1,200. 24:01 Speaker 1: I want some more muscle growth. I looked 24:04 Speaker 1: around online and saw a 4x blend, GHRP-two, 24:09 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin, 24:10 Speaker 1: Mechanogrowth 24:11 Speaker 1: Factor, Ipamorelin. 24:13 Speaker 1: 5 mg, 5 mg, 500 micrograms, which is 0.5 of a milligram, 24:17 Speaker 1: and 2.5 mg. 24:19 Speaker 1: Is this a better route to go than Tesamorelin 24:22 Speaker 1: alone? 24:23 Speaker 1: Go ahead, JD. 24:25 Speaker 0: I mean, this is just gonna be, you know, a matter of an opinion, you know, I don't know. I mean, personally, 24:30 Speaker 0: again, you've just heard me about my last answer is I love Tesamorelin. 24:33 Speaker 0: I think it's an amazing secretagogue. 24:35 Speaker 0: It's my favorite by a mile. 24:38 Speaker 0: So I would probably go simple and go with that answer. I would go with just the Tesamorelin and maybe an Ipamorelin. There's a blend, you could even add them together, 24:47 Speaker 0: but that would be my answer. I would go a little bit softer instead of the 4. I would go with the 1, maybe 2 blend. 24:53 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, 24:55 Speaker 1: depends how conservative you are and how 24:58 Speaker 1: I would like to know his age. I wish I knew his age. Yeah. And how right. For sure. Right? The older you do the older you are, the better these these growth hormone security guards work 25:08 Speaker 1: because your natural growth hormone is lacking. Right? Yeah. If you're 30, 25:13 Speaker 1: I frankly wouldn't really even bother unless you're a woman unless you're a woman, but, like, you're not gonna do anything much to you. K? Yeah. But 25:22 Speaker 1: if some people are very sensitive to the secretagogues, 25:25 Speaker 1: right? Some people build up a lot of prolactin, especially the GHRP-two. 25:29 Speaker 1: It's not as bad as GHRP-six, 25:31 Speaker 1: but 25:33 Speaker 1: they can build up prolactin, 25:34 Speaker 1: they can retain a lot of water, and now you're 25:38 Speaker 1: not happy about your results at all. 25:41 Speaker 1: You 25:42 Speaker 1: have in there, right, taking 3 25:45 Speaker 1: GH peptides, 25:49 Speaker 1: And 25:50 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. If you're not very sensitive, then I would then do them all. 25:55 Speaker 0: If you like had a lot of experience with peptides, you've taken them and you know you have more experience in 10, take the 4. But if you're new to peptides, no, man. I would go to just the Tesamorelin. Start there. Start slow. You can always add. Yeah. And and I and I am a firm believer in taking a GHRP 26:11 Speaker 1: and a GHRH 26:12 Speaker 1: together. So Tesamorelin 26:14 Speaker 1: and the Ipamorelin blend, they synergistically 26:17 Speaker 1: work together. 26:20 Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's all I got. There you go. 26:24 Speaker 1: What peptide would you add with TRT to lean out? 26:27 Speaker 0: I mean, it's easy for me. Retatrutide. 26:31 Speaker 0: Retatrutide. 26:33 Speaker 1: Easy answer. Done. I would agree. That that's yes. Do that. Especially with Tia Daigas, the big the big the great thing there is with these GLP-1s is people 26:44 Speaker 1: or the bad thing is it makes people not eat. The brilliant thing about Retta is it actually gives you an appetite. You can eat, you wanna eat, and especially if you're 26:52 Speaker 1: if you're running some you've run a test, it's gonna help your appetite. 26:55 Speaker 1: You need to keep you need to keep eating. You just need to eat healthy, and that's what Retta does. That's 1 thing that it does. So, yeah, dude. I would say I would agree with that, and then it's never going to hurt like the, you know, a TRT versus HRT, right? HRT is essentially 27:11 Speaker 1: supplementing with testosterone and growth hormone, and so 27:15 Speaker 1: potentially adding a TesamorelinIpamorelin 27:17 Speaker 1: or a CJC Ipamorelin 27:19 Speaker 1: blend on top of the TRT. 27:22 Speaker 1: As effective as fat burning, but it might give you some more 27:26 Speaker 1: growth. 27:27 Speaker 0: Yeah, and again, like a lot of these 27:30 Speaker 0: answers, obviously, we're reading an answer or question, and we would ask more if we were talking, right? So how old are you? That's always gonna be 27:38 Speaker 0: a good 1 because it kind of gives you a beacon on, Will said if you're 30 and you're a dude, don't recommend HGH 27:44 Speaker 0: you know but for most men 40 I would recommend HGH. So age 27:48 Speaker 0: plays a big role in my in some of the answers you know. 27:51 Speaker 1: So 27:52 Speaker 1: what's the best way to store un 27:55 Speaker 1: reconstituted 27:56 Speaker 1: peptides, fridge or freezer? Put them in the fridge. Do not put them in the freezer. 28:00 Speaker 1: And definitely don't put your reconstituted peptides which means water 28:04 Speaker 1: has been added in the freezer. 28:07 Speaker 1: Okay. 28:08 Speaker 0: I got asked that the other day. I've never been asked that before. So 28:11 Speaker 1: next 1, hi JD and Will. Thank you for what you do. Peptides are becoming my new obsession. I'm a female, 30 years old. I lost 25 pounds on semaglutide earlier this year. 28:22 Speaker 1: I've now been on NAD for the last 2 months and Retatrutide 28:26 Speaker 1: for the last month and lost another 5. 28:29 Speaker 1: I am at the point where my goal is shifting from a weight number goal to a look slash physique goal. I'm using the Reddit to help ingrain the healthy eating habits the GLPs have created. 28:41 Speaker 1: I would now like to recount my body and build muscle. I lift 3 to 5 times a week consistently. 28:45 Speaker 1: Do you think I should add a mitochondrial peptide like a SLU-, BAM, MOTSY, 28:50 Speaker 0: or add a GHRP like Tessa or Ipah to help achieve this goal or something else? I'd like to add just 1 at a time to understand the effects on my body. Smart. Thank you so much. Great. That was a great question, man. Good job. That was great. I mean, my answer would be oh, man, I'm a computer. My answer would probably be the Tesamorelin again. I know I've been using that a lot, but I can just go off experience with life, man. And, you know, I know you're a little bit older than my bride, but not much. Not that much older. Man, I have her on a small dose of the Tesamorelin 29:20 Speaker 0: at nighttime, 29:21 Speaker 0: and 29:22 Speaker 0: it has done wonders for my bride. She is just, man, she looks the best she's ever looked. And 29:29 Speaker 1: I I think Tesamorelin has a big part of that. I just think that it does really well for her. You know? It yeah. And that's for her. She is she's she's ripped up. Yeah. But and that's for her. 29:40 Speaker 1: I think brilliant 29:41 Speaker 1: question. You better start lifting weights now. So people see a lot of weight loss at the beginning. Right? And then it gets harder. Right? That that that curve 29:50 Speaker 1: is that curve starts 29:52 Speaker 1: evening out, and so now is the time. Absolutely. You need to start adding a little bit of muscle if you want to continue to burn fat, right? Those last few pounds of fat are the hardest to lose. Most people can't do it because they lose lost all their muscle while losing the fat and now their metabolism 30:06 Speaker 1: is gone. 30:08 Speaker 1: So 30:10 Speaker 1: yes. 30:10 Speaker 1: Should I add a mitochondrial peptide? Yes. I think that probably, 30:14 Speaker 1: JD, is right. I think that 30:17 Speaker 1: your priority should be to add muscle. 30:20 Speaker 1: And doing a Tesamorelin, Iporelin for 30:23 Speaker 1: a girl will really, really will help you add some dang muscle. 30:27 Speaker 1: SLU-two is awesome too though, just because it's a mitochondrial peptide doesn't mean it can't add muscle, and especially if you're lifting. SLU-two, 1 of the beautiful things about that is it will help you through nutrient partitioning and 30:41 Speaker 1: basically puts your body in a state where it thinks it has just exercised all day long. And when we just exercise, 30:47 Speaker 1: our body now goes, damn, I need nutrients. Right? And so when you've lifted weights, your body is shoving protein into your muscles to rebuild them. Right? It's shoving vitamins, nutrients in where they're supposed to be, getting rid of all this bad fat because what the hell I don't need it if I'm trying to if I wanna run. 31:04 Speaker 1: So it's putting your body in that state all the time, and 31:08 Speaker 1: that means all of the nutrients you give to yourself are 31:11 Speaker 1: do 31:13 Speaker 1: that much more for you, 31:16 Speaker 1: including building muscle. So eat a lot of protein. Force yourself to eat. Eat small frequent meals like Retta is probably forcing you to do. 31:23 Speaker 1: Keep going, though. Keep kicking ass and yeah. I mean, it's awesome to see people like you there. Awesome. Love it. Alright. Next 1, stack Retta with Tesamorelin, 31:32 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin, Carderine, 31:34 Speaker 1: and SLU-three 31:35 Speaker 1: 3 2. 31:36 Speaker 1: Is that too much? Is Reta, Tessa, Ipaca, Carderine, and SLU-two much? 31:42 Speaker 0: I don't think so. I mean, personally. 31:45 Speaker 0: I mean, again, who are you? What do you do? How much weight do you need to leave? There's a lot of what is behind all that that are what, you know? But in my opinion, no. I mean, again, 31:54 Speaker 0: they're chains of amino acids. So if you are brand new and you've never taken a peptide, yes, don't do that. If you are seasoned and you've been taking some peptides and you're used to it, then sure, man, you start to want to take more because you see they're amazing. 32:09 Speaker 0: And I get it. 32:11 Speaker 0: Now, if your objective is to see 32:14 Speaker 0: which 1 does what, then that's a bad no, then you shouldn't. But again, if you're seasoned and you've tested them 1st and saw what they do and they work for you, then absolutely, man, run it. Yeah. 32:25 Speaker 1: And to go back on the previous 32:27 Speaker 1: gal, 32:28 Speaker 1: hell yeah, taking 1 thing at a time to see what your body does, right, 32:32 Speaker 1: is is really important. Right? This is like, you're gonna be doing this hopefully for a long time. You let's the faster you can figure out what really works with your body and and what doesn't work as well, the better you'll be off. Do I think that no. Did card reading I love card reading. 32:48 Speaker 1: I love card reading when I sleep. I think that, yeah, nothing in that stack is redundant, 32:55 Speaker 1: and nothing 32:56 Speaker 1: contradicts its each other. Right? And 32:59 Speaker 1: that sounds like an awesome 33:02 Speaker 1: awesome stat. Stop burning machine, baby. And you'll you'll perform extremely well. 33:08 Speaker 1: That sounds great. Run it. Gets your experience. Next is, 33:12 Speaker 1: so GHKCU 33:14 Speaker 1: cream, 33:15 Speaker 1: do you use it every day? 33:17 Speaker 1: What 33:19 Speaker 1: if you are taking also just GHKCU, 33:22 Speaker 1: like injectable 33:24 Speaker 1: peptide at the same time? Is it 1 or the other? 33:28 Speaker 0: It's a great question. You 33:31 Speaker 0: can take too much copper, so you know, that is 1 of the peptides. Like if you take too much copper, it's not a good thing. So that is, there you go. I do not think with any means, I'm assuming you're talking about the GHK- 33:43 Speaker 0: face cream or serum that we have. Yeah, no, 33:46 Speaker 0: I don't think that taking the 33:48 Speaker 0: serum and GHK- 33:51 Speaker 0: in peptide form, injectable form is too much, I think you're 33:56 Speaker 0: well under the marker and taking too much. You're good. 33:59 Speaker 0: Yeah. I think you should. I think they would run great together. I mean, wife and I do both. I love GHK-3CU. 34:05 Speaker 0: Now, another thing about Joe, and I was talking to my dad, send him GHK-two as 34:09 Speaker 0: well, and he said 34:11 Speaker 0: that, like, man, he was tapping out because he would just have, like, hours of pain. 34:16 Speaker 0: And everybody's different, man. I mean, everybody's different with the GHKCU. 34:20 Speaker 0: It sometimes that little sucker stings like a little the bitch, but not every time. And 34:26 Speaker 0: but it for, like, an hour, I get it. It's pretty painful for me for even an hour, but, I mean, dude, 34:32 Speaker 0: like, bee sting, man. Yeah. You live. I I think that's, yeah, solid answer. 34:36 Speaker 1: I use the face serum every day, and that's totally fine. I agree with him, and I don't really get much pain. I get a little sting, but, like, not the 34:44 Speaker 1: all day long pain. Yeah. We've been digging, man. 34:47 Speaker 1: So then we're gonna next is we're gonna do is there any peptide that help with migraines? 34:55 Speaker 0: Do you have any that helps with migraines. 34:58 Speaker 0: I mean, I don't think there's any direct peptide that this is the objective to to help with your migraines. I mean, simple, like, obviously, the the healing ones can help with the BPC-one 35:08 Speaker 0: hundred 57 and TB-five 35:10 Speaker 0: 100. That's the only answer I would have. But no, I think that I don't think there's an actual peptide that's gonna be directed to your migraine. I think a lot of the nootropics, 35:18 Speaker 1: right? So the nootropic peptides is helping with your brain, and I guess it depends what's causing that migraine. 35:25 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question, and that's then then you might find an ampullary. Soft water. And 35:32 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, Semax or Selank. I think Selank, 35:38 Speaker 1: those might 35:40 Speaker 1: work. I think they're absolutely 35:42 Speaker 1: worth a try. Cerebrolysins. 35:45 Speaker 1: So Cerebrolysin, 35:47 Speaker 1: Pinealon, 35:49 Speaker 1: PE 22 28. 35:51 Speaker 1: Those are all nootropic peptides, 35:53 Speaker 1: and 35:54 Speaker 1: you just might 35:56 Speaker 1: use 1 and it might cure your migraine. It might not, but I think that's your best best bet. And the final question is, hey, guys. Love your stuff. I've been dealing with some low back and high hamstring issues. 36:08 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to jump on on BPC-one 36:11 Speaker 1: hundred 57 and the TB-five hundred stack. 36:14 Speaker 1: I've read that you should have a full body scan and blood work to check for cancer or tumors prior. 36:20 Speaker 1: Can these cause cancer to grow? 36:25 Speaker 1: You want me to take that? 36:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. 36:27 Speaker 0: 1st off, I don't let's just good. You can take that. So 36:32 Speaker 1: I guess it's 36:33 Speaker 1: run these like, it's not necessary to run to get, like, a blood test before running any peptides, but that's not really what you're asking for. I think a cancer 36:41 Speaker 1: they're making tissue grow. They are making tissue grow. If you have an active cancer, 36:46 Speaker 1: you know, that is growing on you, 36:49 Speaker 1: I probably would not take those if you know that you have an active cancer. And I guess the only key way you know is if you, I guess, get scanned for I can't get scanned for cancer. 36:59 Speaker 0: I don't wanna be But you should be doing anything. You know, but you need to do it before you take BPC-one 37:05 Speaker 0: hundred 57 and CB-five hundred. Those are so healthy for you. My answer is, dude, just take those should be fine, man. I I don't 37:12 Speaker 1: If think you have if you think you have cancer, it might be, like, a good idea to check it out. Yeah. Chances are you don't, but like I would I would say that before taking BPC is in TB 500 as a general rule, you'd you don't really need to get scanned for 37:27 Speaker 1: to for cancer, but maybe you're the super unlucky 1 that, 37:31 Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's still nothing really even proven that says that they will make that cancer grow if you happen to have 1, but as a general rule, 37:39 Speaker 1: they're gonna be really good for you. 37:42 Speaker 1: It's a personal opinion, dude, however conservative you wanna be. 37:47 Speaker 0: Yeah, so again, you know, my answer on that, I'll close on this because that's the last question I know Will has to take off, but if 37:53 Speaker 0: you're talking about your hormones, testosterone replacement, things like that, go get your blood work done 1st. Absolutely, 100%. 37:59 Speaker 0: Nobody should be telling you you should take testosterone until you get your blood work done, testosterone replacement. 38:03 Speaker 0: When it comes to peptides, my answer only, 38:06 Speaker 0: you don't need to get your blood work for peptides. Again, they're chains of amino acids. They're not affecting your hormones in a way that testosterone 38:13 Speaker 0: will. They're very different things. 38:16 Speaker 0: And especially those 2 peptides are extremely healthy. 38:19 Speaker 0: There shouldn't be any issues with those 2. So that is it, 38:24 Speaker 0: my friends. Will has to split it, but man, we are appreciative. We love these questions. These have been great. We don't really read them until right before, so we give you the best answers 38:31 Speaker 0: right from our hearts and our heads, and that's it. So that is it, guys. We're gonna come out. We're gonna be dropping the pep title week next week. 38:39 Speaker 1: And anything else before we split, Will? No. Keep them coming, dude. I don't know. This is fun. I think this is great. Isn't it great? 38:47 Speaker 1: I don't know. We both love this stuff, and and we're happy to share 38:51 Speaker 1: what we know. And, again, these are just our opinions and based on my own personal research with my own body and a bunch of my Alright. Long, long time. And lots and lots of witnessing 39:03 Speaker 1: feedback from lots and lots of people over a long period of time. And I like the HRT. I like the testosterone and 39:10 Speaker 0: some of those questions too. So I know a lot of men because I have a Finnish channel. Know a lot of men have a lot of those questions. So welcome. 39:16 Speaker 0: Bring them. Yep. 39:18 Speaker 1: Go. And questions from women. 39:20 Speaker 0: We will do our best. Women. Yeah, man. Keep coming. Okay, guys. You guys have a great week, and we'll see you on the next round. Peace.