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0:09Speaker 0Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast.
0:12Speaker 0I am your host,
0:13Speaker 0JD Denham. I like always, I got my buddy across the way, William T. Haas. What is up, dude? What's up, my man?
0:22Speaker 1Friday. After the week, after the holiday. Thanksgiving was yesterday. Holiday. Tell me about tell me about it. Haven't asked you yet. How was it? It was great. We had my girlfriend's whole family come over and
0:34Speaker 1dude, we had a blast. I don't know if it's cool. She's got a small family. 1 of her aunt brought her dog over, so I miss my dog, so it's nice to have a dog in the house.
0:43Speaker 1And
0:44Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah. It's a couple months, but still not quite ready to get another 1.
0:51Speaker 1But, dude, I don't know. We had had fun. The food was good. Her dad
0:57Speaker 1smokes the turkey, brought over 2 turkeys. They were actually really good. Right.
1:02Speaker 1I had some outdoor games and
1:05Speaker 1some like floating
1:07Speaker 1golf greens that we were chipping. Her sister actually played golf in high school. She swung. I was like, damn. That's an impressive swing.
1:15Speaker 1Even though she was just chipping, but, you know, most people golf.
1:18Speaker 1Those people aren't coordinate aren't coordinated. So
1:21Speaker 0but it hit? It's kind of good. You expected? You were thinking it was gonna hit, was it? Yeah.
1:26Speaker 1Yeah. Absolutely. It was nice to I don't know, dude. I'm so
1:29Speaker 1bad at just sitting down
1:31Speaker 1and just talking.
1:33Speaker 1I need, like, action and
1:37Speaker 1games to play. So it
1:39Speaker 1was fun.
1:42Speaker 1I got nothing, but yeah, it was a great time. I took some IGF-one
1:46Speaker 1before
1:47Speaker 1dinner.
1:48Speaker 1Postmarked. So that
1:50Speaker 1means all of the protein and carbs and everything bad just goes right to my muscles, and I felt lean and strong this morning. Nice. Shit,
1:59Speaker 1life's good. Were gone. You were in the I brought peptides.
2:02Speaker 0You know what I forgot? The syringes.
2:05Speaker 0So I wasn't able to do that, but I had a good time, man. I went up to Big Bear,
2:09Speaker 0and for the 1st time ever,
2:11Speaker 0I had just my family, which was meaning my 3 kids,
2:15Speaker 0my granddaughter, and my bride, and my wife's or my daughter's
2:19Speaker 0husband,
2:20Speaker 0newly husband, and she has a bun in the oven. So we have another baby coming and it's gonna be a girl.
2:26Speaker 0But dude, it was freaking awesome. We just hung out. We went to the zoo
2:30Speaker 0during the day. Yeah. Those
2:31Speaker 0poor animals, bro, they look beat down. I felt so bad for them. They were stuck in the the bears just look agger, dude. I felt so bad for them, but anyways, it was a lot of fun and we went at night and
2:41Speaker 0walked around and looked at the lights, but it was just my
2:45Speaker 0my spawn, my kids, my granddaughter, and it was freaking rad, bro. That was cool. It was freaking rad. So that's what it's about, man. You
2:53Speaker 0and I know this, but
2:55Speaker 0the promises are really real, man. Anybody that doesn't know Will and I both been sober a long time and it's important to us.
3:02Speaker 0So these moments are pretty pretty rad, dude. Pretty darn cool getting these things times back. Yes. Yeah, it is.
3:10Speaker 1I
3:11Speaker 1would that that reminds me, I think last time we were in Big Bear where we were up there for a friend's
3:16Speaker 1bur or bachelor party. Bachelor. But I think we had, like, 6 generations of sponsorship family
3:22Speaker 0Yeah.
3:23Speaker 1There, and that was also cool. Now you actually making the real
3:27Speaker 1physiological
3:28Speaker 1families
3:29Speaker 1a
3:30Speaker 0little bit more special. But, yeah, the dude, that's great. It is about family time and it is important. You know, it's funny, bro. I wanted to tell a story for anybody that's kind of newer. I've shared this story a little bit and anybody that's kind of followed us for a while probably has heard it, but it's such a funny story because I've known Will as a long time and he's just a very private guy. He likes to just he likes his privacy and like, so what would maybe think of this when you were saying this, don't like to talk. Will
3:55Speaker 0would just vanish for days and we've got, where did he go? He'd leave his cell phone and he would just go to the mountains with his dog and he would just chill and that was just what you did, And like, it's kind of just who you are, man. So it's just, I love it about you, man. It's part of your charm, man. Yep.
4:11Speaker 1I was raised like that too. I mean, I'm from the Pacific Northwest and my
4:16Speaker 1mother
4:17Speaker 1yes. I was raised going on just mile mile long backpacking and
4:22Speaker 1beach hikes and going camping. Like our vacations was to drive and go camping.
4:26Speaker 1That's rad. Good childhood, man. And it rubbed off. Think they've
4:31Speaker 1quoted me at 1 time saying, like, I hate nature because my mom loves nature more than me.
4:37Speaker 1I see that when was a little kid.
4:39Speaker 1But I don't know. It rubbed off. Plus my mom was always like, we we we just found her on campus. She
4:45Speaker 1had taught me that rules don't really apply to us if they don't make sense.
4:51Speaker 0She really said that.
4:53Speaker 1She'd be like, that no trespassing sign, they only mean that for people who are gonna go and trespass and, like, ruin their land. If we're just nice and respectful, they don't mean us. So I'll I'll say that that really
5:04Speaker 1hasn't served me right, I guess, throughout my life because
5:07Speaker 1I would take it and run with it just being like, rules don't apply to me. Mom said. Yeah. I can do whatever I want, and it gets me drunk. So
5:14Speaker 0Right. That's
5:15Speaker 0rad, man. She's a she's a sweetheart of a Yeah. Lady. She raised you well, man. I'll tell you what, 1 thing about that's cool about you that I wish I had him a little bit more is
5:23Speaker 0I will not text Will that much because he doesn't text back all the time because he doesn't have his phone on him like the rest of us, and it's a very good quality bro because it's rare. You're not glued to your phone like the rest of the world, bro. Yeah, I think that's thanks to your mother. Yeah, probably is. You know I mean? Yes, it is. Well, cool. Let's get into it. Today is our favorite episode, I think. It's a Q and A, like always, because we give you a little bit of a touch of who you guys are and just kind of what you want from us. And we just like to talk about this stuff anyway. So it's our favorite episode
5:54Speaker 0of the week.
5:56Speaker 0So Will, do us the honors, jump in. Why don't you kick us off? Okay, we will get started. So number 1,
6:02Speaker 1hey guys, I'm starting a bulk for the winter after a very successful cut all summer
6:08Speaker 1and fall.
6:09Speaker 1To a mixture of different stacks including AOD, MOTS-5Amino,
6:14Speaker 1Tessa, Ipah, and most certainly Retta among a long list of other peptides.
6:19Speaker 1My current stack is 2
6:21Speaker 1IUs per day of HGH,
6:24Speaker 1hundred and 80 mg of test per week broken up into 5 shots.
6:30Speaker 1IGF-1LR-three
6:32Speaker 150 micrograms
6:33Speaker 1per day in the Wolverine Blend for aches and pains. That is BPC-157
6:39Speaker 1plus TB-five hundred. My question is can I continue to run Reta
6:44Speaker 1or should I pick it back up in a couple months when I start my next cut? I've been able to increase my protein intake while still on it. I just don't wanna hinder any progress this winter on muscle gains. For context, I'm a 38 year old male, 5 10, 1 85
6:58Speaker 1at about 14% body fat, and the overall goal is to be at 1 95 at 8 to 10%
7:04Speaker 1for this coming summer. Thanks to you guys helping peptides. I'm down from 2 50,
7:09Speaker 1and
7:10Speaker 1who knows what body fat percentage for only 6 months ago. Thanks guys. So he was at 2 56 months ago.
7:17Speaker 1Ends up one- Instead of major cut, is definitely a major cut. Yeah, yeah. That is a major successful cut. So the question was essentially, can I bulk
7:27Speaker 1to add 10 pounds of muscle before summer,
7:30Speaker 1which is call it, I don't know, 6 months, 7 months,
7:34Speaker 1if I'm still taking Retta, or should I just cut that off and
7:37Speaker 1try to bulk? Is it gonna impede gains?
7:42Speaker 1Dude, this one's just a call for you, your body. I don't really
7:47Speaker 1do less. If you can eat enough food if you can eat enough food, right, and still gain muscle, I mean, that's kind of an obvious answer.
7:55Speaker 1Just eat enough food while taking bread and still gain muscle, then do it.
7:59Speaker 1If it's really impeding your absolute food intake and you don't see any of the gains just because, I mean, it's a pretty easy formula.
8:06Speaker 1What's your goals? I mean, the goal is to add 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah. Yeah. So if he's not eating enough food, you ain't gonna do
8:13Speaker 1So some people read it as cool because it doesn't just kill your appetite, but it does really make you not be able to eat a lot. If you were trying to major bulk when I was playing college football, hey, how do you gain weight, bro?
8:23Speaker 1You eat a ton and it's gonna stretch your stomach out. Right? So then I can eat more next time. Eat more next time. Like, that part is the part that's not really gonna happen very well with Retta. Yep. So,
8:37Speaker 1hey, I would maybe, you know, hey, pull it unless you are starting to eat a whole bunch of crap and uncontrollable,
8:44Speaker 1you know, not eating good calories.
8:46Speaker 1You may want to just super duper micro dose it and
8:50Speaker 1see if that helps some of the food noise, but still allows you to take in a good amount of intake. I still think, just for reference, like if you're trying to gain a grown ass grown male trying to gain some muscle,
9:01Speaker 1I think you
9:03Speaker 1need to aim for a gram and 0.5 of protein per pound of body weight.
9:08Speaker 1All right. That can be a lot of protein, I know, but it's a goal. Split that up over 5 meals, lean protein shake before you go to sleep, protein right after the workout,
9:20Speaker 1those count as your meals. And so
9:22Speaker 1I would say about 40
9:25Speaker 1grams of protein per
9:27Speaker 1meal, depending on the size of person you are.
9:31Speaker 1You
9:33Speaker 1only time will tell, buddy. I guess you have to just kinda test yourself.
9:37Speaker 1That's all I can say. But you've done a lot of good work, dude, and it looks like you got the dedication and you will be able to figure it out. You lost 55 pounds, that's rad. My answer to that would be this.
9:47Speaker 0I pulled out Retta when I had back surgery,
9:50Speaker 0because why would I take it? I don't know, I pulled it out, so I was off it for a little bit.
9:54Speaker 0And when I got back on it, I noticed the kind of the increase and it worked really well, really fast again. So maybe try that. It worked for me.
10:02Speaker 0It was nice to take a little break.
10:04Speaker 0So that worked for me. Try this because this is what I'm doing right now.
10:09Speaker 0I've changed some things around it, which I've said numerous times and need to get super into it, but get on MK-677,
10:16Speaker 0that will help because I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm on Retatrutide and on MK-677
10:20Speaker 0and I am freaking hungry. I am just hungry. Hungry, hungry, hungry. I didn't really have that problem, the lot. I've taken, I think, MK's, this might be the 3rd time,
10:29Speaker 0and I never had the problem
10:31Speaker 0prior. I was running carnivore both those other 2 times. Now I'm eating carbs and doing stuff like that, so it's changed in regards to the diet and how I'm eating. Dude, I am hungry and I'm on Retta. So if you're gonna stay on Retta, maybe try to MK-677
10:46Speaker 0and add that into the book. Not only will you eat more like you want,
10:50Speaker 0you will gain some muscle because it works really well. So try that. Cool,
10:55Speaker 0nice.
10:55Speaker 1Yep. All right. Can BPC-157
10:59Speaker 0cause anxiety to worsen a person with PTSD
11:04Speaker 0or an anxiety disorder? I took it as a blend with KPV,
11:08Speaker 0GHK-
11:09Speaker 0and TB-five hundred and had the worst anxiety of my life for 3 to 40 days. Wow, that sucks. It went away when I discontinued it. Is this even heard of?
11:21Speaker 1I mean, take a look. I mean, I will quickly, I mean, I have not heard of it. I am also not sure about the you took GHK,
11:28Speaker 1not CU.
11:33Speaker 1I'm not quite sure.
11:34Speaker 1Maybe I do need to do a little research on what that might be, but
11:38Speaker 1no, I haven't heard of that.
11:41Speaker 1Haven't heard of that and it doesn't and I don't really make, it doesn't make, I don't know, I just can't see any of those doing much to a person's brain,
11:51Speaker 1you know, or even physically giving you anxiety,
11:54Speaker 1unless you didn't react well to the copper,
11:57Speaker 1but I'm not sure.
12:00Speaker 0A lot of what ifs. A lot of what ifs. I mean, could it be? Sure. Do I think it is? Probably not. Here's
12:06Speaker 0somewhat of a guesstimation,
12:07Speaker 0brother.
12:08Speaker 0Sometimes our minds, you have these types of disorders, when you take something, it's more of a placebo that you think it's doing that. So you think it's doing that, you kind of feed into that side of yourself and then it starts to kind of snowball.
12:20Speaker 0I would think that would be like my most somewhat guesstimation of what's going on. I don't personally think those are going to make you have anxieties, but if you're someone that struggles with anxiety, I bet you almost anything you take can.
12:33Speaker 0And I don't struggle with anxieties, I know some people that do.
12:37Speaker 0And once their brain starts to snowball, 1 of my really, really good friends is very like this.
12:43Speaker 0Once he goes, he goes. And I'm like, listen, man, like I always tell him, hey man, take your brain out and put it right here, dude. Like, you're thinking too much, man. A lot of what ifs. Let's try to kill, like, chill out on the what ifs, man. Like, what if nothing happens, you know? But I don't struggle with it. So, again, I'm blabbing, but I think that's probably what might happen, brother, is you think that it is and then you start to feed that side of it, so then it became that real to you that it's probably what it was. It's kind of what I think, because I just don't think those are gonna cause anxieties, man. Those are not really easy. And I will correct myself, so duh. I mean, CU is on the periodic table of elements is copper. So
13:19Speaker 1there is a GHK
13:21Speaker 1versus GHK CU.
13:24Speaker 1GHK CU is where copper is added and
13:28Speaker 1the GHK alone can do some minor wound healing,
13:33Speaker 1but adding that copper
13:35Speaker 1it
13:37Speaker 1massively increases all the good effects.
13:40Speaker 1So I don't know why
13:42Speaker 1don't take just GHK-1.00s.
13:44Speaker 1I mean, just GHK
13:46Speaker 1Nixa,
13:47Speaker 0kind of unrelated, But take like a C LINK or a C MAX and a Selank with it, maybe run them in tandem with this and just see if that might kind of stabilize your mood a little bit and kind of diminish some of the anxieties.
14:02Speaker 0Also, what is your objective? Why were you taking those? Why were you taking that blend? What were you trying to accomplish?
14:08Speaker 0There was a goal, what was the goal?
14:11Speaker 0Because those are for healing and things that are gonna be for more like an injury type deal, maybe your gut.
14:18Speaker 0So anyways, what were you trying to do? So anyways, I'd run maybe if you're gonna do it again, don't think that's what it was. So maybe try to run the Selank and the Semax just to see if it stabilizes your mood a little bit more. Let's try it.
14:30Speaker 0All right,
14:32Speaker 13rd 1. God bless you both for spreading all of your great knowledge to us all. Thank you. My question is, can I take
14:39Speaker 1SLU-three 32 1000 micrograms
14:42Speaker 1daily and stack it with
14:45Speaker 1a
14:46Speaker 1SLU- bam mixture
14:49Speaker 1pill already? So just basically already a SLU-1000mg
14:53Speaker 1and a SLU-BAM pill. May I take those both? The 1 that I think you're referring to is,
15:16Speaker 1days prior to workouts.
15:18Speaker 1I'm currently on 3 mg Zaretta to see what my lowest effective dose is. Good. I'm thinking about adding Tesamorelin,
15:25Speaker 1but would like to know lowest therapeutic
15:28Speaker 1dosage range to establish fat loss and muscle gain, but not risking any cancer growth if it's preexisting.
15:33Speaker 1Also, let us know dosages and durations of compounds. Okay.
15:39Speaker 1So 1st question, can you take the SLU-1000with
15:42Speaker 1a SLU-two 50 and BAM-thirty 5? Hell yeah, and I absolutely would. That's how how I I would do it it because
15:49Speaker 1I I think think that that you you need need more SLU-two SLU-two 50, but you don't wanna take more BAM. So you don't really wanna take any more than like 70 mg of BAM at a time or a day.
15:58Speaker 1So I and you would. You can run really high doses of sleep. I would absolutely
16:03Speaker 1take
16:04Speaker 1the thousand
16:05Speaker 1milligrams, so that's 12
16:07Speaker 150 micrograms of sleep and-
16:10Speaker 1No problem. 35
16:11Speaker 1mg of BAM. Awesome. Do that. That's a better that is a better approach.
16:16Speaker 1Adding Tesamorelin, what's the lowest therapeutic dosage range? Hey, I mean, that guarantees
16:22Speaker 1no cancer if you have had it.
16:26Speaker 1There's no guarantee in anything like any little bit. I don't know. I mean, probably not gonna just, you know, create cancer, but there is no guarantee.
16:35Speaker 1So,
16:36Speaker 1but the lowest therapeutic range I'd say is 500 micrograms a day of Tesamorelin.
16:41Speaker 1Personally,
16:42Speaker 1I take like 1000 micrograms a day at night, but
16:47Speaker 1and I would say about 4 months to go with that and then give a couple week break, maybe switch to a different security guard.
16:54Speaker 1That's generally how it's done. And
16:58Speaker 1that's it.
17:00Speaker 1Retta, 3 mgs weekly. The starting dose is 2.5 mg. I
17:05Speaker 1personally would like to split it up
17:07Speaker 1into 2 to 3 doses,
17:10Speaker 1but lowest therapeutic dose is a great idea
17:12Speaker 1if it is working.
17:15Speaker 1Start there. Duh.
17:18Speaker 0I mean, 3 mgs, that's pretty good. I think that's a pretty standard. Like, if you're kind of like a kind of in shape, I don't think that you even really even know need to go higher than that. You know, it kind of depends on what your objectives are. Are you trying to lose weight or are you trying to kind of just
17:30Speaker 0stay lean?
17:31Speaker 13
17:32Speaker 0Migs,
17:33Speaker 0I don't ever go above it. I do
17:35Speaker 0a Mig Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and I've even gone down to doing 0.5 of that. So it just depends on my goal at the time.
17:43Speaker 0So that's just what your goal and mess around with it in regards to that. Tesamorelin, I mean,
17:48Speaker 0doses Will was just saying, wouldn't personally think that you'd be super concerned with that, but if we're gonna always on the side of caution, man, if you're worried about cancer that much, just don't do it.
18:29Speaker 0Alright.
18:31Speaker 0Who's, me? You are. You are. I am, alright. I am 61 year old female
18:38Speaker 0who am currently on 1 unit of tirzepatide
18:41Speaker 0per week.
18:43Speaker 0I have just started NAD
18:45Speaker 0plus and GHK-
18:48Speaker 0I progressively lift 3 times a week. I don't really wanna lose any more weight, but still feel like my body fat could improve.
18:56Speaker 0I feel as much as I work out that I should have more muscle definition.
19:01Speaker 0Do I just accept the fact that I'm 61 and this is the best it's going to get, or do I feel like there is another peptide that could help? Love your podcast and what you guys do. It's very informative. Thanks for all you're doing. Wanna jump on that? Yeah, sure.
19:17Speaker 1Good for you, and I don't think you need to accept that you're 61,
19:21Speaker 1and
19:22Speaker 1that's the best you can do. So 1st of all, I think the big glaring thing at us is,
19:28Speaker 1so NAD, GHKCu,
19:32Speaker 1not really meant not really meant to make like physical changes as far as physique changes go. No. So
19:38Speaker 1it strikes me that you haven't yet tried naltrazepatide
19:41Speaker 1and especially just 1 unit of tirzepatide per week, I don't know what that means, but maybe a milligram.
19:47Speaker 1I would imagine. That's too low to really notice anything.
19:50Speaker 1Yeah.
19:51Speaker 1So I would try it, but I would also probably just switch to Reta because it's better.
19:56Speaker 1And I would try starting dose at least 2.5 mg a week.
20:01Speaker 1But I would say, hey,
20:03Speaker 1yes, there's a lot you can try. I would sloop as the number 1 thing that I would try for you. You're not just trying to lose a bunch of weight. You wanna keep muscle on and keep strength at 61 years old,
20:14Speaker 1but get a bit leaner. I think SLU-p is awesome.
20:17Speaker 1And I would say 1000,
20:19Speaker 11000 micrograms, maybe 2000 micrograms a day for
20:24Speaker 13
20:25Speaker 1months, then give it a break. Per the last person who said,
20:29Speaker 1please talk about dosages and duration. So there's 1 IGF-1LR-three,
20:38Speaker 18 weeks. That dosage is tough.
20:41Speaker 1Maybe DMS because it needs to be kind of progressive.
20:44Speaker 1Start at maybe 50 micrograms a day.
20:48Speaker 1If you're trying to lose weight,
20:50Speaker 1I
20:51Speaker 1don't know. I would start with those. I don't wanna throw a whole bunch at you. Eat eat protein. You're gonna need to eat enough protein. K? That's huge. Eat enough protein and keep working out. You're working out, but just eat enough protein.
21:03Speaker 0Yeah, I like it. I would
21:05Speaker 0say, as he said, the tirzepatide
21:08Speaker 0move to Retta. You're gonna it's gonna work for more muscle tone anyway, and then I would throw in at night to test Tessa Ipah for you. I've
21:16Speaker 0added my wife in on that and jeez, man, I mean, it was like immediate she looked different. Now, know, she's in her
21:24Speaker 0later thirties at this point, babe, love you.
21:28Speaker 0But it worked wonders for her, you know, and I think Will and I both agree on this. Age is a number, man. Like, you know, if you eat right and live right, you know, it's just a number, So you can kind of achieve whatever goal you want. But yeah, I think a small little tweak, I would get on Retta for sure. Would definitely up the dose because just that's not 1 mg of tirzepatide is not going do a whole lot. Retta is going be a lot better.
21:48Speaker 1And then add in Tesamorelin and Ipi at night, I think you're going to see a lot from that. Hell yeah. So I 2nd that in my bed for for not even thinking of that 1. Yeah. It's gonna focus on fat that you're saying, like, you know? Yeah. So- So focus on fat. It's gonna help you as a woman really help build help to build muscle and not to lose any damn muscle because your body is wanting right now to use quite a bit of muscle
22:10Speaker 1to and so your muscle, your body will not your muscle won't go catabolic.
22:15Speaker 1It's also gonna help increase your bone density, right? Your skin elasticity,
22:20Speaker 1your thickness of your skin, right? It's a growth hormone that's promoting that. So every person who's probably over 60 should be increasing
22:28Speaker 1their growth hormone. Oh yeah. If nothing more, just to increase the bone density.
22:32Speaker 1And prevent osteoporosis.
22:36Speaker 1So hell yeah, I would add that too. And that 1 also, it tells the IpA, you know, 500 micrograms of each
22:43Speaker 1daily,
22:44Speaker 17 days a week. Daily. Night too. I forgot At night and for 4 months, give it a couple weeks break and do it again or choose a different 1. We choose to do CJC,
22:53Speaker 1IpA,
22:54Speaker 1but those 2 ran together. I think it's great. Yep. And do that, and that that just underlines everything. Nothing else is gonna conflict with that, and you could still do everything else on top of it.
23:04Speaker 1There you go. Alright. Monitor.
23:06Speaker 1So
23:08Speaker 1is MOTS-3C
23:09Speaker 1safe for cancer survivors?
23:17Speaker 1Again, I, I don't wanna we're not I'm not guaranteeing
23:19Speaker 1anything. What we know is like MOTS-3A is going to increase is gonna help
23:24Speaker 1give your mitochondria some more energy and help
23:29Speaker 1not allow cell, just basically increase
23:32Speaker 1the healthiness
23:33Speaker 1and longevity of your actual cells.
23:36Speaker 1So,
23:38Speaker 1in general, if you do some research on there, there's no direct correlation to MOTS-3C. It's like starting cancer or but,
23:44Speaker 1hey, if it's gonna make your cells
23:47Speaker 1live longer and be more resilient to oxidative stress,
23:52Speaker 1okay? Well, cancer is cells.
23:54Speaker 1Let's say you get chemo. The whole point of chemo is you just kill off all these cancerous cells, you know?
24:00Speaker 1And if it's gonna be make your cells more resilient
24:04Speaker 1to not being killed off, hey, that could include cancer cells. Now, there's also research out there that's saying the Montsia is like anti cancerous and does a good job of actually getting rid of cancerous cells. So
24:17Speaker 1that's what I know. I'm not gonna give suggestions on that 1.
24:22Speaker 0We're not doctors. We're a little bit like that we read that. We're like, because we don't wanna like give anybody advice on cancer and stuff like that. We're not doctors, we don't pretend to be.
24:32Speaker 0But we'll answer that well. I mean, here's what I would say, the only curve I'll throw at you because I talk about it a lot and I love it.
24:40Speaker 0And if I ever got cancer, knock on wood, I would starve that sucker. I would be fasting like a son of a bitch. I would start with a 20 day fast and starve that sucker. It thrives on glucose, so you should be eating a high fat diet.
24:52Speaker 0You should be not eating a lot of glucose.
24:55Speaker 0I think if you change your diet and add a lot of fasting in, I don't know if you're a woman or a man, there's a little bit difference in regards to men and women fasting. A man, I think should pass a lot more,
25:04Speaker 0but still fasting has been around forever for a reason because it works and it reboots your body, your mind, your cells, I can go on and on and on about it. So I would add fasting in without a doubt. I think
25:16Speaker 0if you fasted and you took MOTS-3C, you think you're gonna be fine. I'm not gonna tell you should or you shouldn't,
25:22Speaker 0but I would either way, eat high fat, get rid like eat low carb because that's glucose and what cancer thrives on, and fast anyway and just really reboot your cells. I think that's gonna be your best bet.
25:34Speaker 1Cool.
25:36Speaker 0All I'll run these run too because I'll give you that big 1 that we had talked about. All right, so we got long can I run AOD and Tesa IpA
25:44Speaker 0before I should cycle off? I also take Retatrutide
25:48Speaker 0units 3 times a week, so 3 megs a week.
25:51Speaker 0How long can you run AOD?
25:53Speaker 0I mean, I think you can run it for quite some time. I think it's 1 of my favorite compounds.
25:59Speaker 0My answer to that would be you can run it for quite some time, which I think that I do. I run it
26:05Speaker 0because it's not gonna increase your IGF-one.
26:09Speaker 0So the Tesa IpA, you can change. I would say you run the Tesa IpA for a good 3,
26:14Speaker 0maybe 4 months and then switch
26:16Speaker 0it to a different secretagogue.
26:18Speaker 0You have quite a few that you can choose from. It's always gonna boil down to what you're trying to do. Are you trying to bulk, are trying to cut, are you trying to burn belly fat?
26:28Speaker 0So
26:29Speaker 0I'm assuming AOD and Tessa Ipah, you were trying to burn belly fat because those 2 together are awesome.
26:36Speaker 0So that would what I would say. AOD, I think you can run for long periods. I do, I run HGH for long periods. I run both of those for long periods. The secretagogues,
26:45Speaker 0I switch them up often. I switch them about 3 months,
26:49Speaker 0maybe 4, and that's what I do.
26:52Speaker 1Yep, I would agree with everything you said. I have nothing unique
26:55Speaker 1yeah,
26:57Speaker 1nothing unique to say on that 1. I agree with everything you just said.
27:01Speaker 0When you talk about testosterone
27:03Speaker 0numbers,
27:04Speaker 0do you mean free test or total test? What numbers should be for each?
27:09Speaker 0My last blood work showed low T levels, 45
27:13Speaker 0NGDL
27:14Speaker 0at free test at,
27:16Speaker 0I can barely read, 6.89.
27:19Speaker 0Struggling to find Kisspeptin
27:21Speaker 054
27:22Speaker 0in The UK to help and know your stance on TRT,
27:27Speaker 0potentially looking to conceive within 18 months.
27:30Speaker 0Is Kisspeptin-ten
27:32Speaker 0no good,
27:34Speaker 0currently 2 10 pounds,
27:37Speaker 0well trained for 10 years and no serious injuries, looking to cut fat everywhere, join the club, and generally feel better, join the club. Not currently running any peptides and I'm looking for a reliable provider
27:49Speaker 0in The UK. Can you recommend any? Can
27:53Speaker 0or offer any tips on how to choose where I buy them from. I listen to every podcast you have done now and find it really informative and is a major reason for my journey into peptides. Well, thank you for that. Will, you wanna tackle this 1 1st? Yeah, sure. So
28:08Speaker 1we when we have talked about testosterone, hopefully, I mean, I think we've done a good job of
28:14Speaker 1describing
28:15Speaker 1the difference here about, talking about both and being very clear when we're talking about both. But
28:20Speaker 1so free testosterone
28:21Speaker 1is the testosterone that you actually get to use. That's the important number, okay? Total testosterone,
28:28Speaker 1I
28:29Speaker 1guess is irrelevant, is not irrelevant. I mean, it's relevant because it's showing your body can actually make some testosterone.
28:37Speaker 1But
28:38Speaker 1general ranges, think about when you're 18 or so, you're young, your testosterone is about free, you know, total testosterone is about 1,200
28:47Speaker 1nanograms per deciliter.
28:48Speaker 1As we age and get past 30, it goes down. I think if you're Kaiser,
28:53Speaker 1you're not
28:54Speaker 1gonna you're not able to prescribe the prescribing
28:57Speaker 1level. It's like man has to be under 300 nanograms deciliter before you can actually prescribe him testosterone and at 300, the person's miserable, hasn't had a boner for a long, long time and
29:08Speaker 1probably is not very happy. So personally, I think that
29:12Speaker 1between 701,000
29:14Speaker 1is a great range of total testosterone.
29:18Speaker 1Free testosterone,
29:21Speaker 1the
29:22Speaker 1clinical range is like 15 to 25
29:26Speaker 1nanograms per deciliter.
29:28Speaker 1On that 1, I would aim for 25
29:30Speaker 1minuteimum.
29:32Speaker 1Again, JD's pointed this out, so Scott, Collie, like a lot of these given reference ranges, right, it's comparing you to the unwashed masses.
29:41Speaker 1Guess what? The unwashed masses
29:43Speaker 1are- Doctor. Healthy. Doctor. Healthy. So just being average amongst a below average population is not good.
29:51Speaker 1So 25 minuteimum
29:54Speaker 1of nanograms per deciliter of free testosterone.
29:57Speaker 1So what you're telling us is 4
29:59Speaker 145 and 6.
30:01Speaker 1Those are not good.
30:03Speaker 1And you probably know that, which is why you're asking us this question. Because Peptin 54 is
30:09Speaker 1the better version. We can help you out where to find it, where to find it, where to get in The UK, etcetera.
30:15Speaker 1Enclomiphene,
30:16Speaker 1so if your goal is to try to like, you you said you wanna stay fertile to naturally raise your natural
30:22Speaker 1testosterone,
30:23Speaker 1dude, I don't know. I've seen people have the best results using Enclomiphene.
30:30Speaker 1But
30:31Speaker 1I also know tons of people who've been taking testosterone for a long, long time and wanted to have a kid, and so they took some HCG and enclomiphene and they got their
30:39Speaker 1wives pregnant.
30:40Speaker 1Pretty easy. Some easier, some not. Most of them don't even have to get off of testosterone.
30:44Speaker 1You obviously haven't done any testosterone ever, so you're pretty good. What's a natural, normal what would I suggest people? There is a difference between
30:54Speaker 1if you still wanna be fertile and if you don't. K? If you've after if you've had kids and you're like, I don't wanna have any more kids, dude. Take I don't care how high your levels are as long as your bad cholesterol is not up and you're able to manage your estrogen symptoms.
31:07Speaker 1If you feel good and
31:09Speaker 1you like it, then there's no reason. If your bad cholesterol isn't bad, but if you're trying to
31:14Speaker 1have kids later, would try and take a little bit less testosterone.
31:18Speaker 1Make sure you still feel good. You should never have estrogenic symptoms because you're just ignorant at that point because they're really easy to take care of.
31:26Speaker 1All right?
31:27Speaker 1So nipples shouldn't be sensitive. You should not have acne. You should not have any water bloating. That is simple. You just take a little bit more of your estrogen blocker, arimidex,
31:35Speaker 1azemestane,
31:36Speaker 1and all those symptoms will go away.
31:38Speaker 1And we've talked how to take that and suggestions.
31:42Speaker 1I'll start. I like it. I would say you probably are super tired. 6.8
31:47Speaker 1of free tests, that's low, dude. I feel bad for you.
31:52Speaker 1Backtracking on some story, when I 1st, before I started 1st got on TRT,
31:56Speaker 1I thought something was wrong with me. Literally, because I was a drug addict and I thought, I'd been sober for, I think 5 years at the time, I just, I hit a wall and thought I was sick.
32:06Speaker 1And long story short, I got my levels tested and I realized my testosterone was in the poop hole, you know what I mean? And I fixed it and felt like
32:15Speaker 1a whole new person in weeks and weeks.
32:18Speaker 1So all I gotta tell you, should take Kisspeptin
32:21Speaker 1or anything else that's gonna do that. You know, Will and I have talked about it numerous times.
32:25Speaker 1I'm a bigger fan of just getting on testosterone,
32:28Speaker 1just
32:28Speaker 1cut to the chase. You can get your bride or your girl pregnant on testosterone.
32:33Speaker 1Not only have I done it twice, we know countless people that have done it.
32:37Speaker 0So that's gonna just be my answer, man. You can do it. You can get her pregnant on that.
32:42Speaker 0That's the thing. Yeah, you want to get your free test. How to answer that? You have to see how you feel.
32:48Speaker 0It doesn't matter what your testosterone levels are necessarily.
32:51Speaker 0You feel like shit, you feel like shit. You could be at 1,000
32:54Speaker 0testosterone and 45 free testosterone, which in my opinion are like really, really good levels.
33:00Speaker 0But if you feel like shit, what's it worth?
33:02Speaker 0You have to figure out where you thrive, where you do good. And what I do is I judge it on energy level, brain focus, and obviously sex drive.
33:11Speaker 0Because we're men, right? Those are 3 things and if I'm out of whack and I'm like tired and know my sex drive sucks, then I
33:19Speaker 0something's off. I gotta switch switch some stuff. So where your levels are at, big dog, I would definitely
33:25Speaker 0get those up because you're probably really tired.
33:28Speaker 0Shoot us a DM if you follow us. We have a Warrior Makers Instagram
33:32Speaker 0and you hopefully follow 1 of us on Instagram. If not, find us, shoot us a DM. We will maybe get some better info to you directly.
33:42Speaker 1I will. All right. So, hello. My name is Karen.
33:46Speaker 1I'm 47 years old. Pre menopause, perimenopause,
33:50Speaker 1workouts 5 days a week and 10,000 steps daily.
33:54Speaker 1I'm
33:54Speaker 15 2 and I weigh 115
33:57Speaker 1pounds. I was on tirzepatide 4 weeks at 1.25
34:00Speaker 1micrograms.
34:02Speaker 1That
34:03Speaker 1probably means milligrams
34:05Speaker 1because the starting dose is 2.5
34:07Speaker 1mg a week, but Yeah. And she doesn't specify, like, how often those 1.25
34:14Speaker 1micrograms were taken. Anyway, to help with food noise
34:18Speaker 1and to lose the last 8 pounds,
34:20Speaker 1I was 118 before I started. Now I'm only 5 pounds to go. All right, I just started Retta and I believe the person who gave me the product and recommendation gave me too much.
34:31Speaker 1They
34:32Speaker 1told me to take 5 units. Peptide strength is 20 mg and she told me to add 2 mils of water. I feel this is way beyond micro. So for just I've done the math on this already. So that is a they told you to do 0.5 of a milligram of Retta,
34:46Speaker 1which is a perfectly reasonable- Low. Microdose. Mean, is low. So again, starting
34:51Speaker 1dose on Retta is 2.5 mg
34:56Speaker 1a week.
34:57Speaker 1So her telling you to do 0.5 of a milligram,
35:00Speaker 1I don't know, 3 times a week maybe is even lower than the starting dose. So that's what I generally tell people to start with and that's what I do. I do a little bit less than that.
35:09Speaker 1Okay.
35:12Speaker 1I'm also taking
35:14Speaker 10.5
35:15Speaker 1mg of BPC-one
35:17Speaker 1hundred 57
35:18Speaker 1daily
35:19Speaker 1on an empty stomach and MOTS-0.5
35:24Speaker 1milligrams
35:25Speaker 1and
35:27Speaker 12.5
35:28Speaker 1mg of GHKCu.
35:32Speaker 1Wrote these all
35:34Speaker 1on how much water, what the bottle dose is and how much water she added, which actually thank you because it's the only way we actually know exactly how much you're taking. So if somebody just says, I'll take 7 units of something like, well, we don't know what the concentration is. I have no idea how much water you put in. That really doesn't-
35:49Speaker 1It's wet pet peeves. That is 1 of my pet peeves. So thank you, but I did the math and shortened it up for everyone. So
35:57Speaker 1all of those doses okay, so let's 1st
36:01Speaker 1She also thinks that the GHK-
36:03Speaker 1at 2.5 mg is way too much.
36:08Speaker 1Okay, so but my goals is I need more energy throughout the day, I need more strength,
36:13Speaker 1and I want to get down to 110, lose 5 pounds to see my muscles, brain fog to improve, mood stability, better skin and hair,
36:21Speaker 1improve my gut, sensitivity to food, you have dysbiosis,
36:26Speaker 1IBS, and leaky gut.
36:29Speaker 1And I have just started all of these peptides about 1 week ago.
36:32Speaker 1My question to you, is that a good stack? And would you add on or wait and stick with this for a bit? Question 2, can you bring peptides when traveling? I live in Canada but travel to Florida frequently
36:44Speaker 1since I have a place there and I would love to order
36:48Speaker 1products to be sent to me in Florida.
36:51Speaker 1Question d, I have been considering to add Tesa, but I heard that you hold on to water with this 1. Okay. So 1st of all, your friend's recommendations,
36:59Speaker 1like, sound pretty damn spot on and, like, literally are not too much at all. They're not high recommendations.
37:04Speaker 1The mixing is perfect. And
37:08Speaker 1the outcome is exactly
37:10Speaker 1I mean, I would take you to take a full milligram of MOTSY every day.
37:15Speaker 1GHK-
37:16Speaker 1I would tell you to take the same thing, maybe 3 times a week, 2.5 mg.
37:20Speaker 1BPC.
37:21Speaker 1So here's my suggestion.
37:23Speaker 1You have gut problems for sure. If you have IBS and leaking gut, that's not good. Let's attack the hell out of those because brain axis
37:30Speaker 1determines a lot in our body.
37:32Speaker 1So
37:33Speaker 1if
37:34Speaker 1I was you, I would be doing
37:38Speaker 1mg to 2 mg a day of BPC-one
37:42Speaker 1hundred 57
37:43Speaker 1and
37:44Speaker 1probably 1 mg,
37:46Speaker 1maybe 0.75 to 1 mg a day of
37:49Speaker 1KPV.
37:51Speaker 1Those both go straight to the gut. And actually, I would actually take the BPC-one hundred 57 pills.
37:56Speaker 1That's gonna attack the gut 1st.
37:59Speaker 1Otherwise,
38:00Speaker 1it goes to your tendons, ligaments in your body, and then your gut. Repairs where you are deficient 1st because it's definitely a signaling peptide focused
38:08Speaker 1on those and collagen,
38:11Speaker 1telling where your body needs collagen.
38:13Speaker 1So there's that.
38:16Speaker 1I would GHKCu,
38:17Speaker 1cool. I'd keep doing that. Good. Hair, skin, nails, that's actually good. That's great for you. MOTS-se, you want some brain fog and energy. MOTS-se, SS-thirty 1. Take them I would take them both. Milligram of MOTS-three, I would ask 5 mgs daily of
38:31Speaker 1SS-thirty 1. That helps prove
38:35Speaker 1it just makes your cells
38:38Speaker 1be a bit stronger and not let free radicals and
38:41Speaker 1oxidative stress leak out or get to them, that's where we create our ATP. ATP is your long term
38:47Speaker 1cellular
38:48Speaker 1grid energy. So that should result in better energy throughout the day.
38:52Speaker 1Really is Man, NAD is awesome for a bunch of reasons,
38:56Speaker 1brain fog and energy throughout the day, and maybe some Selank, Cmax mix
39:02Speaker 1together for that's in straight up both of them are nootropics.
39:09Speaker 1But here's the deal, so that's what I would change.
39:12Speaker 1Maybe you don't want to add all that. You've only been doing this for 1 week, so on all of these, you got to give them time. You really do.
39:20Speaker 1At least a month before you're even allowed to make any decision on, like, if I think something's working. Okay? Right. But really, for their full potential, man, go do things for 3 months
39:31Speaker 1and see it. But maybe make those changes that I said 1st, if you want to.
39:36Speaker 1That's
39:38Speaker 1Oh, will,
39:39Speaker 1at least secretagogues
39:41Speaker 1can make you retain water if you take too much. Okay? You will know because you're retaining water.
39:46Speaker 1Lower it down. I'd say 0.5 of a milligram of Tessa
39:50Speaker 1nightly
39:51Speaker 1and daily should be just fine. But if you start retaining water, you can lower
39:56Speaker 1it down and then slowly titrate up.
40:01Speaker 1Talk to us about, yeah, how Oh, yeah, I
40:04Speaker 1I haven't mean, had no problem.
40:06Speaker 1They have there are
40:10Speaker 1FAA approved, like, insulin carrying kits.
40:13Speaker 1We
40:14Speaker 1will we have some soon that are that are really cool. Yeah.
40:19Speaker 1Put stuff in your check bag. Looking for drugs
40:22Speaker 1and
40:23Speaker 1bombs. You've seen needles. You know, and they're looking for
40:27Speaker 1lots of drugs, 1st of all, not just personal. Is there any drugs?
40:31Speaker 1I don't know. You're fine.
40:34Speaker 1I
40:35Speaker 0do it all the time, so I don't know. Right.
40:38Speaker 0Me too. I mean, I think you answered that pretty well.
40:43Speaker 0Mean, you can shorten that up. I mean, you probably have
40:47Speaker 0what you need now. You can shorten that up. You got your KPV, your GHK-
40:51Speaker 0your BPC-one
40:52Speaker 0hundred 57, you can get that in the Glow or Close Stack, you can shorten those up and put them into 1 peptide in the blend.
41:01Speaker 0So you can get kind of all those into 1 and kind of shorten that up. I agree with Will in regards to the BPC
41:08Speaker 0pills. I'm gonna take those on top of it because it was gonna go right and try to help your gut. I mean, join the club. I think we all have somewhat of a gut problem. I do, I know myself. So
41:19Speaker 0feel you when it comes to that. I'm gonna always say, are you eating? What type of diet are you eating? Switch
41:25Speaker 0that around, play around with that when it comes to that.
41:29Speaker 0A lot of people know that I do a lot of high fat stuff, so maybe try that if you're not for your gut. It can reboot your gut.
41:37Speaker 0Tesamorelin,
41:38Speaker 0think it's great. I think that if
41:41Speaker 0you do obviously take too much, like Will said, you can retain water.
41:45Speaker 0I
41:46Speaker 0think if you do it right, you're gonna get a lot out of it.
41:49Speaker 0And I know I'm being a little bit redundant. Yeah, you can travel. We travel all the time. I travel all the time. When I fly, just check your bag, put it in your restroom bag.
41:58Speaker 0You know, peptides are not illegal. I don't know how they are in Canada, though. Maybe they're in Canada.
42:03Speaker 1Right. I don't know. Are they in I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe they're there, but, I don't think anybody's gonna care. Put them in your check your bag. Don't carry on your bag, and you should be fine. I used to go on I used to go on airplanes with a loaded like, we JD and I used to be drug addicts, and I would go on it with in my pockets with loaded I know. Stupid. Syringes and
42:23Speaker 1Nobody cares. But that was 15 years ago, right before they they
42:28Speaker 1It was after nineeleven.
42:30Speaker 1I mean, things are tighter, but really they don't care about your personal
42:35Speaker 1use. These aren't even drugs, not narcotics at all. I shouldn't even bring that up. Check your bag, you'd be cool.
42:42Speaker 1It'd Yeah. Be good. So I think we answered that. You did good on that. I think so too. I'm like, good for you. Keep going, keep going. You know, there's a lot that you can be helped with. And I think that you will find that as long as you
42:51Speaker 1have patience and
42:54Speaker 1just- Consistent time, consistency,
42:56Speaker 1give them time to work,
42:58Speaker 1the work.
42:59Speaker 0All right. Yeah. 1 week is not a lot of anything, even a GLP-one peptide. So yeah, do you want to give it some time? Let these things do what they do. We want instant gratification,
43:09Speaker 0but delayed gratification is how things really work. So just give it some time,
43:15Speaker 0run these for about 3 to 4 months and then you adapt from there. You're doing good, you're seeking advice and reaching out. So good on you.
43:23Speaker 0All right, last 1, I'm gonna take us home. Followed your advice when I asked on your podcast about what to add being 57 year old female on Reta, Ipah, CJC to help with aging and longevity.
43:35Speaker 0NAD plus
43:37Speaker 0been doing 25 mgs for 3
43:40Speaker 0times a week, about 3 weeks and feeling good.
43:43Speaker 0What can I move up to a dosage for more benefits?
43:46Speaker 0Any MACs to watch out for? Also, tell me more about your, or tell me more about the topical GHK-3Cu
43:52Speaker 0Snap-eight face serum I see out there.
43:55Speaker 0How much to use, how often going to purchase some soon, the percentage of product
44:01Speaker 0topically is far better than I have been using now,
44:04Speaker 0doing SubQ as well. Cool.
44:08Speaker 0Well,
44:09Speaker 1you want me to take that? Yeah, sure, but I have something to say too. Go for it because I was reading it. Okay, so I want to address the
44:17Speaker 1topical GHK-
44:18Speaker 1We have some experience with this.
44:21Speaker 1I
44:25Speaker 1had some people try to sell us some
44:28Speaker 1American made GHK-
44:29Speaker 1and really, really expensive. I still have some, but here's the GHKCu.
44:35Speaker 1Let's see here on everybody.
44:37Speaker 1That's color. This is just GHKCu.
44:40Speaker 1This is GHKCu
44:41Speaker 1and SNAP-eight.
44:43Speaker 11 funny thing is why is that blue more blue if all you did was add more SNAP-eight?
44:48Speaker 1SNAP-eight is not blue.
44:49Speaker 1Right.
44:50Speaker 1I have since seen these exact bottles
44:55Speaker 1coming from in China in a sale from Chinese
44:58Speaker 1companies. Right?
44:59Speaker 1And
45:00Speaker 1I know for a fact then then we have this 1 here.
45:05Speaker 1This is GHK-
45:07Speaker 1and SNAP-8. Right? These guys don't say how much is in
45:11Speaker 1it at all. Just says it's in there. So
45:13Speaker 1I'll let you know a little Like,
45:15Speaker 1make this, so we make this.
45:18Speaker 1That's all right.
45:19Speaker 1It's 20 mil, so it's GHK- CU and SNAP-eight.
45:22Speaker 1And it has 20 mil bottle,
45:25Speaker 1and it has 10% GHK-three
45:28Speaker 1percent SNAP-eight, means which there's 100 mg of GHKCu
45:31Speaker 1in here and 30 mg
45:33Speaker 1of SNAP-eight.
45:36Speaker 1That's
45:37Speaker 1Pepta, a 100 GHKCu peptide, that whole thing is in here, which is not cheap, and 3 full bottles of SNAP-eight is not cheap. So the reason that that is dark blue,
45:47Speaker 1and that stuff works. SNAP-eight is what
45:50Speaker 1kind of makes Botox Botox and topically put on will really help tighten your skin and lower, like, wrinkle crevices, not so deep. And
46:00Speaker 1I would and I don't know, dude, that stuff works.
46:03Speaker 1If you put it on consistently, I start my skin is smoother and less wrinkles and I look younger. How much? I'd say put on just like a pump a day on your hand in the morning
46:13Speaker 1and night, if you wanna do it twice a day. Cool.
46:18Speaker 0But I would try it. That's how much- Properly,
46:21Speaker 1per how much?
46:22Speaker 0Girlfriend,
46:23Speaker 0my wife, and numerous other ladies,
46:26Speaker 0you wanna do it like 3 times a week with the microdermabrasion
46:30Speaker 0thing. You wanna roll that thing on your face because it opens up your pores and then you wanna rub it on there. And then you can rub it on every night too, but you wanna do that 3 times a week. So that's what I was told. My bride told me that, so I follow that. So another cool thing about that, you ask, me tell you about it. I'll tell you my experience.
46:46Speaker 0My wife finally talked me into doing some facial type stuff. I'm 48 years old and
46:50Speaker 0I'm on screens a lot now and stuff, so I have to stare at my face and I was looking older. So we started doing some facials and stuff and I had this facial, I don't remember the name of it, but they burn your face.
47:01Speaker 0And I couldn't believe I was doing it, but I did it. And the 1st time I did it, I didn't have the serum and it took forever to heal.
47:08Speaker 0It helps. The 2nd time,
47:10Speaker 0I did have it. So
47:12Speaker 0it took me 3 days to heal and the 1st time it's like 7 to 9 days and I'm not exaggerating, they burn your face, like they burn off all the dead, dead dying cells and blah blah blah. So does it work? It freaking works amazing.
47:25Speaker 0I wouldn't even do it. We had a facial, my wife and I, same time, a good friend of ours, and she didn't use the face and we did. It's a true story. And remember, Will and I- I do. Absolutely.
47:36Speaker 0People got steebled and her face looked like she got beat up and you're like, what in the world? She didn't have the face serum and we did. So it really, really helps. Because that GHK-two man and a SNAP-eight,
47:46Speaker 0it works and like Will just said, like we put a lot in it. Why? Because it needs to work. We wouldn't wanna sell anything that doesn't work, like, you know what I mean? Even if it's like a little bit costlier,
47:56Speaker 0if you're gonna buy it, make sure that it does what you're looking for. Yeah. It's like that. Another caveat of mine is yes, is like-
48:03Speaker 1These
48:04Speaker 1like proprietary
48:05Speaker 1blends, right, where they tell you it has this in it
48:08Speaker 1and a bunch of other stuff now, all equal to 10 mg. You
48:12Speaker 1just put a sprinkled 1 sprinkle and then you get to say that. Why is it clear? Drives me crazy.
48:17Speaker 1So
48:19Speaker 1there it is and it's fully dosed so it actually works. We don't want to sell anything with superheroes. That's crap.
48:26Speaker 1The other question-
48:27Speaker 1Did we answer this
48:28Speaker 1person's last question?
48:30Speaker 1Yeah.
48:31Speaker 1All right.
48:33Speaker 1Sweet.
48:34Speaker 1Those of you, feel free to reach out to us with some of those questions. I'll shoot us some DMs,
48:38Speaker 0like we said. Our podcast room is almost done. I looked at it, man. It was looking good, so we're getting close.
48:46Speaker 0Maybe a week, maybe 2.
48:48Speaker 0And we'll be sitting
48:49Speaker 0in the same room and talking. So I'm excited about that, man. So if you have any other questions, we gotta get our editor who's sitting there waiting. He's with his family and it's holiday, so we gotta get him off the screen. And for everybody else, we love you. We appreciate all the kind words. Anything else, dog? That's it. Nothing. Happy Happy Thanksgiving. Merry Christmas. Happy Thanksgiving.
49:08Speaker 0Talk to you. See you next week. Alright.