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0:09Speaker 0Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast.
0:12Speaker 0As always, I'm your host, JD Denham, across the way, my cohost, mister William T. Haas, for another
0:20Speaker 0q and a episode. What's up, dude? What's up, man?
0:24Speaker 1I don't know. Excited to do these? These are fun.
0:27Speaker 0They are fun. I actually enjoy these. It's cool too because like as we talk about them and we, you and I even talk about Amino-1MQ off camera a lot, like you learn more and more and more and more as you talk about it. I love it. It's the coolest stuff. Yeah. Yes. So fun. We geek out on this. We love this stuff. It's so cool to see so many people digging into this stuff.
0:49Speaker 0It is. Pretty man. Pretty cool, man. We've been into this stuff a long time, so the world is opening up to health. Yeah. There's more and more and more success stories too. It's cool. See people, like, dramatic changes.
1:03Speaker 0It's like they a lot of people start with, like, either a GLP-one or a BPC because of an injury,
1:09Speaker 0and they just see how rad peptides are, and then they wanna try them all.
1:14Speaker 0You know what I mean? It's so cool, man. So,
1:17Speaker 0but we know what you came here for. This is our favorite episode. It is a q and a episode,
1:23Speaker 0and, shoot, shoot, why don't we just dive right in? You want me to start? Oh, go ahead. Why not? Alright. My wife is 5 235
1:32Speaker 0pounds. She's 43 years old.
1:34Speaker 0She's in great shape and goes to the gym with me 4 times a week at 5AM.
1:39Speaker 0That being said, she is Italian and she says it. She can't lose that Italian booty and thighs.
1:48Speaker 0Just finished 2 rounds of Tesa AOD,
1:51Speaker 0and it really did nothing for her. I was thinking Retta and 5Amino
1:55Speaker 0for her, but really don't know much about what's good for women.
1:59Speaker 0For whatever reason,
2:01Speaker 0she does not want a straight GLP-one.
2:04Speaker 0I was hoping you would be willing to share your thoughts on what you would advise your wife if she had the same hard time losing weight in glutes and thighs.
2:13Speaker 0I'll place an order with you guys order for
2:18Speaker 0her soon after I'm done doing my and
2:21Speaker 0receiving.
2:23Speaker 0Thank you for your input.
2:25Speaker 1Cool. Yeah.
2:28Speaker 0Well, you want me to take that 1st? Yeah, go ahead.
2:32Speaker 0Mean, 1st and foremost, it's hard to always We don't see your wife and kind of what she looks like, but I'll answer that for the GLP-1in
2:40Speaker 0particular, for
2:42Speaker 0even myself.
2:43Speaker 0I've shared this story before, but there's probably a lot of new people.
2:47Speaker 0Before Will and I started working together and doing what we do, we've been friends a long time. And as I was doing the fitness channel, he was always telling me, You gotta dig into these GLP-1s,
2:57Speaker 0man.
2:58Speaker 0And I was like, No, dude, I'm disciplined.
3:02Speaker 0I'm good. I don't need to get into that stuff. I don't need to lose weight, blah, blah, blah. Very close minded, very silly. But
3:09Speaker 0when we decided to do what we are doing now, I started to read about them and opened my eye mind to them. I started reading about these amazing things. I was like, these sound freaking awesome. So that's when I started to open my mind to it. And then I tried Red, and I was blown away by it. And I was super lean, already in shape,
3:26Speaker 0and it just freaking
3:28Speaker 0worse so fast. Blew my freaking mind. So if you're listening to this, my friend or your wife, your bride is on here,
3:36Speaker 0Try it, just see, you can always stop.
3:39Speaker 0Retta, GLP-three
3:41Speaker 0is a scientific breakthrough. We talk about all the time. We'll probably talk about it many times even in this podcast.
3:47Speaker 0Give it a try. See if you like it. See what you I mean, it'll burn those thighs right off, girl. It's just how it works. Yeah. Now let me go get to the Tesa AOD. I'm surprised by that. I don't know. You asked what I would give my wife. I put my wife on those 2 in particular,
4:02Speaker 0and a little bit went a long way with her and it did amazing. It did amazing for her. So, you know, everybody's body is different. So my answer to this would be try the Retta,
4:13Speaker 0just give it a shot. I think you'll love it. Most people that do love it and they keep doing it for a reason.
4:20Speaker 0You can definitely try the 5Amino as well, that's a good fat burner. Or you can also try the SLU-PP-three
4:25Speaker 032 because that is a sublingual and that is not an ejected form.
4:30Speaker 0But final answer, try Retatrutile.
4:33Speaker 1Just give it a month, see how you do. Yeah, yeah. I would say, so 1st of all, I get it. I come across a lot of people who
4:39Speaker 1were like, don't wanna do a GLP-one, right? Semaglutide
4:43Speaker 1has gotten a really bad rep and
4:46Speaker 1because
4:47Speaker 1of
4:48Speaker 1people,
4:49Speaker 1you know, it's not Semaglutide's fault. Can't people,
4:53Speaker 1right? Basically, what I hear is, you
4:56Speaker 1know, be like, I don't wanna take that because now I'm gonna look like these girls who've just lost their ass completely or,
5:02Speaker 1you know, just look sucked in in their face. And then people say, Well, I heard it's really bad for your eyes. Your eyes still go you know, start going. Your hair falls out.
5:11Speaker 1Well, okay. So it's not the semaglutide.
5:14Speaker 1Like, it is not inherently bad for you. Okay? But basically, all it does is just slow your digestion. Okay? So but the biggest thing is its side effect and it makes you nauseous.
5:25Speaker 1Then people don't eat any food. Okay? You- He's talking about semaglutide, just so you know, the redneck. Semaglutide shuts to the straight up GLP-one.
5:34Speaker 0Okay?
5:37Speaker 1When you start when a human being is starving to death, okay, and is severely malnutritioned,
5:43Speaker 1their hair starts falling out.
5:45Speaker 1And we don't have any nutrients, right? Your teeth don't have any nutrients to keep growing strong, right? Eyesight can go.
5:53Speaker 1And your body starts it doesn't burn fat, right? When you don't have calories coming in, your body just burns everything it can, including muscle. Right? And that's why you girls, anybody loses their their butt.
6:06Speaker 1And it just your body just starts withering away, it's unhealthy. Okay? That's malnutrition.
6:11Speaker 1So that's
6:12Speaker 1why it has a bad rap and people kind of are scared of it. What he talked about, Retta,
6:17Speaker 1is amazing. It has completely done away with that side effect of that
6:22Speaker 1of nausea. Okay? Like, tirzepatide still has GLP-2t
6:27Speaker 1still has some of that. It's a whole lot better than than
6:31Speaker 1GLP-1s,
6:32Speaker 1which is the Semma.
6:34Speaker 1But Retta
6:35Speaker 1is leaps and leaps and leaps and bounds. It's not even the same, like, category almost. So you can eat food. You will have an appetite, and that's good. We need nutrition. We need food. We need protein to keep all of your muscle, to keep everything working fine.
6:49Speaker 1It burns fat
6:51Speaker 1twice as much. It helps your brain be full
6:55Speaker 1of blood sugar when it needs it.
6:57Speaker 1And it forces portion control on you because it still makes you get full fast.
7:03Speaker 1So again, I would try it. Do what you can to, I guess, convince your wife to try it.
7:08Speaker 1And I'd start at a low dose, right? I still think that 3 times a week is the best way to do it. No.
7:15Speaker 1To each its own. But I would start with just like 1 mg
7:18Speaker 13 times a week.
7:20Speaker 1And you progress by 0.5 of a milligram
7:24Speaker 1as needed. I would probably say, Hey, 1 mg 3 times a week. And you gotta give it a little bit, maybe 2 weeks or so to really start working.
7:32Speaker 1And then bump up as needed, right? We all build a little tolerance to it. So over time,
7:37Speaker 1you'll need bunch. Generally, people stay at about 5
7:42Speaker 1mg a week total.
7:45Speaker 1Max dose is 15 mg a week. By the way, most people stay 5. Women's 5. Men can go up to 7.5. I generally see that's the general sticking point.
7:56Speaker 1But I would try that. I mean, it sounds like she works hard. I would also, and I don't know her and I don't know any But, like, if she's working out 5 days a week and taking those and they're not working, my guess is
8:07Speaker 1something's wrong with the diet. Usually, the answer is they're not eating enough food and they've artificially just killed their metabolism. Believe it or not. Literally,
8:17Speaker 1just have her do it, come back to us and talk to us in a month after she's done it. Guarantee the team will be different.
8:23Speaker 0Guarantee.
8:24Speaker 1All
8:26Speaker 0right. Thank you.
8:28Speaker 1Also, by the way, thank you. Good. Do your damn research, people. That's awesome. I love that people are doing their own independent research before
8:36Speaker 1buying anything. So keep doing that, everybody.
8:40Speaker 1All right. Next 1. So love the info you guys put out weekly, especially the Q and A. No 1 does that. We all appreciate you guys. So I'm on TRT right now for about 6 months. Started Retta 5 weeks ago.
8:52Speaker 1Dabbled with PT-one hundred 41 for the fun of it. That stuff is amazing.
8:58Speaker 1Also done Tesamorelin. I'm currently out of the Tesla and want to get more out of it unless there is something better to go with. Which blend should I do? Okay. RetatrT
9:09Speaker 1for fat burner.
9:11Speaker 1Muscle growth and get leaner? Question mark.
9:14Speaker 1Tessa
9:15Speaker 1Ipah or CJC Ipah or something else. FYI, I work out 4 times a week and fast every day for at least 16 hours if that if any of that matters.
9:26Speaker 1Cool.
9:29Speaker 0JD, do you have something to say while I digest this? So I'm currently out of Tesa and want to get more out of it unless there's something better to go with. Which blend should I do do
9:39Speaker 0with Retatrut
9:40Speaker 0for fat burning, muscle
9:43Speaker 0growth, and getting leaner?
9:47Speaker 0Tesofipa or CJDC? So if you're asking between the 2, that's the main question to those 2. I'm not a I don't know. I'm just not the biggest fan of CJC.
9:56Speaker 0Just Tesofipa
9:58Speaker 0is my favorite. I think if you really wanna get more muscle growth, you'll go with the CJC. If that's truly your objective, I think you'll do a little bit better. I would say MK-677.
10:09Speaker 0It's
10:11Speaker 0a non peptide secretagogue,
10:13Speaker 0works very similar to how these will work. But if that's your true thing is to the Retta is gonna keep you lean, so you got that. TRT is gonna keep you cruising and the MK, in my opinion, with Retta is really well if you wanna gain muscle because that will allow you to eat more with the Retta, and you gain more muscle when you eat more. So I would I would take out the Tessa Ipah and the CJC and go with MK-677.
10:37Speaker 1Alright.
10:39Speaker 1You know, you said you were on Tessa. Great. I definitely think that taking 1 of the blends
10:45Speaker 1is the more effective way to do it, right, like you said, and you've come to this conclusion.
10:50Speaker 1And I agree with him, right? I think Tessa Ipas can be a little bit better for fat burning, CJC Ipas. CJC is just a little bit stronger. So it's going to
10:58Speaker 1boost your
11:00Speaker 1growth hormone
11:01Speaker 1more than TessaIpA,
11:03Speaker 1but Tessa is gonna have more fat burning properties, especially in the stomach fat. Really? It's like, honestly, dude, this is
11:11Speaker 1you almost just gotta try them. Give each, like, a fair shake, right? I would try each for 3 months. Hell yeah. See what
11:18Speaker 1works better for you.
11:21Speaker 1Know, I would also,
11:22Speaker 1Hey, if you wanna add a little bit of weight, I don't know, it's up to you, your doctor, etcetera, but like bump the test up a little bit. Watch what happens. I don't know what you're taking right now, but like,
11:32Speaker 1you know, you can bump it up 100 mg a week, right, and see what happens 2 weeks later.
11:37Speaker 1Generally,
11:39Speaker 1the like anabolic threshold is about 400
11:42Speaker 1mgs a week and that's not a TRT
11:45Speaker 1dose.
11:46Speaker 1That's high for TRT. That's super low for anybody who's actually, like, using it to build muscle though.
11:53Speaker 1And so if you wanna, don't know, if you're taking 200 mg right now, try 300. Watch. That's gonna add some muscle on you.
12:00Speaker 1Not a whole lot. Again, let's say anabolic threshold, that means like at 400, it's gonna really grow muscle.
12:08Speaker 1Anything less than that, it still is gonna help, but but every little bit gonna add a little bit more.
12:14Speaker 1Also, you can talk about like AOD
12:17Speaker 1Yeah. For the fat burning.
12:19Speaker 1And he had a MK. I agree with everything he said, the MK,
12:23Speaker 1IGF-1LR-three
12:25Speaker 1for muscle growth. Yep. You can add that on top of any of the secreta drugs that you are taking. It's all good.
12:32Speaker 1Run that maybe 6, 8 weeks
12:35Speaker 1with the correct protocol, correct eating timing,
12:39Speaker 1and that will work.
12:41Speaker 0Yeah, because what he's talks about towards the end is obviously similar to some of the fasting that I do. So 1 thing that you need to make sure you do where people that do the fast, they don't eat enough. Especially if you're going to book, you're trying to gain
12:54Speaker 0muscle, you need to eat more. I fast a lot, but do when I eat, my wife calls it feeding time, I eat a lot. So make sure you're eating a lot. If you got if you're grow if you're trying to grow muscle, you gotta feed the muscle.
13:07Speaker 0So so you know. Here go.
13:10Speaker 0Alright. You're up. Alright. When mixing DSIP,
13:13Speaker 0should we use acetic acid acid
13:16Speaker 0acid water and or backwater
13:19Speaker 0to reconstitute or just 1 of these or both. You should be fine with backwater.
13:24Speaker 1That's it. You should be fine with backwater and if you're not fine, if it's not fine with backwater, something's wrong with the product. Yeah.
13:32Speaker 0There it is. Very easy answer on that. Yeah. How can I use Retta effectively
13:37Speaker 1to get shredded, and what's the right dosage to help me stay consistent
13:41Speaker 1with my macros?
13:43Speaker 1K. Protein, carbs, fat,
13:45Speaker 1which are the 3 macronutrients.
13:49Speaker 1Now can I use Retta effectively?
13:52Speaker 1Well,
13:53Speaker 1I guess- Very big. I mean, but I would say, I would even, for a man or a woman, I mean, a woman's gonna need a little bit less, but
14:02Speaker 1I think, and I say that I think this because I have seen
14:07Speaker 1literally 1000 people at minimum
14:10Speaker 1take this and
14:12Speaker 1start with 1 mg
14:15Speaker 13 times a week.
14:17Speaker 1Do that. I would, you know, do that and bump up by 0.5 of a milligram,
14:22Speaker 1like, each dose. But I would say give it a couple weeks before you bump up. And the goal is to take as little as you possibly can to make it really work. So And to not just, Oh, let's try to take as much as I can and just blow out your tolerance.
14:34Speaker 1It
14:35Speaker 1will get you shredded.
14:38Speaker 1Eat right and exercise, though. Don't sit on the couch and just eat whatever it is. You probably end up not eating whatever you want once you're taking it because that's what it does. But you gotta do a lot of other things also to help yourself. And then, I mean, the higher you go, the more you need to force, you know, get make sure you're eating enough
14:55Speaker 1protein.
14:59Speaker 1That's what I got for how you use Retta effectively.
15:03Speaker 0Yeah, I'm assuming this person, because it's super big and it doesn't talk much about his body comp, blah blah blah. I'm assuming this person's in shape because he's talking about his macros and that's usually somebody that kind of knows what they're doing. So if you are in shape, I'll answer it with that. Yeah, Retta, just a little bit of Retta will go a long way for somebody that's already in shape, man. Like Will just said, we do 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It'll chisel that fat right off you like
15:29Speaker 0like that if you're in shape. Just keep eating protein.
15:34Speaker 1Yeah. And then I don't know whatever your percentages are on your macros, but, like, I don't know. I go high on the protein.
15:40Speaker 1Always.
15:41Speaker 0Okay.
15:42Speaker 0You're up.
15:44Speaker 0My friend has a son who had an accident with a firecracker on his left hand.
15:48Speaker 0This was about 3 months ago. Okay, I will fill it out, but
15:53Speaker 0hear from you soon, blah, blah, blah. So here
15:56Speaker 0is where he is at with his recovery stage, his left hand requiring several surgeries and ICU stays.
16:04Speaker 0It has been 3.5 months,
16:06Speaker 0and while wounds are healing, he has limited mobility
16:12Speaker 0or strength in his remaining 3 fingers. Poor guy. His emotional state is severe,
16:17Speaker 0route with PTSD
16:19Speaker 0in constant flashbacks, his pain levels ebbs and flows,
16:23Speaker 0but he's
16:24Speaker 0on mostly over the counter pain medication, that sucks.
16:28Speaker 0They expect his new normal hand to take 1 to 2 years to be as functional as possible.
16:35Speaker 0Are wanting to know if you would think some peptides like BPC-157,
16:39Speaker 0etcetera can help
16:41Speaker 0heal faster. Any other peptides that you would recommend?
16:44Speaker 0He's only 13 years old. I think this is a great question. Will and I were talking about this. We did read this question. You want me to start? Yeah, yes. Go ahead. Give him- I'll start just because I have children.
16:57Speaker 0I have 2 boys and my daughter's 22, but I have a 4 year old and I have an 18 old, and I will always put myself in the position. I've been asked this actually quite a bit. Would I give
17:07Speaker 0my children, teens, somewhere around 13 to 15
17:11Speaker 0peptides? And I've asked, I've been asked numerous ways. So here's how I answer this. I've been asked if I would give them a growth hormone secreted cog. I would absolutely not personally,
17:21Speaker 0but I would have absolutely
17:23Speaker 0no problem giving a 13 year old, my 13 year old son, especially in this position,
17:28Speaker 0BPC-157
17:29Speaker 0and TB-500,
17:30Speaker 0I think not only would I do it, I think he will help him
17:35Speaker 0tremendously.
17:36Speaker 0I think he can take high doses of it and it will really, really, really help him. And then when it starts to heal and he sees it heal, it's gonna obviously start to
17:46Speaker 0affect his head because he's going through some emotional state. So it's a win, win, win, win, win across the board. I think you should do it.
17:53Speaker 1Yeah. I 2nd all of that. Wouldn't have a problem either. I mean, with BPC or TB-five hundred, I think you should actually do it and should
18:01Speaker 1should inject
18:03Speaker 1it, like, as close to that injury as he can handle it, right, even if it's finger or whatever down here, you know, maybe. Just sub q. Somebody else can do it for him. Pull up the skin like this and just slide
18:15Speaker 1it right in there
18:17Speaker 1and do that kind of around here if it's maybe these fingers. And
18:21Speaker 1the poor guy, that sucks.
18:23Speaker 1I had a friend blow off all of his so it looks like this with the M80 in high school. Oh, wow. Yeah. It sucks, man. Yeah. And-
18:32Speaker 0Could happen to anyone.
18:33Speaker 1Yeah. So that's too bad, and I think that he'll get back. And like, dude, nerves just
18:39Speaker 1nerves take a long, long, long, long, long time to heal. That is why it's gonna take 1 to 2 years to, like, make it work.
18:49Speaker 1Hell, I have a friend who got hit with IED in, like, Iraq, and he's a functional, like, firefighter. They wouldn't let him back in. They went to Blackwater for a couple years because
18:57Speaker 1but he's kinda like like this, and
19:00Speaker 1he can do everything.
19:03Speaker 1But
19:04Speaker 1I would, yeah, I would agree with you and hope his recovery is
19:09Speaker 1is good.
19:10Speaker 0Yeah, keep us posted. I, you know, this is coming up more and more through the DMs on asking about, like, high school kids. I think, in my opinion, I think peptides are definitely gonna make their way to the high school kids. That's gonna be contingent upon the parent.
19:23Speaker 0I personally
19:24Speaker 0am not about the secretagogues
19:26Speaker 0or anything like that, but I know I personally know some bothers that give their kids growth hormone because they want them to be professionals. And, I don't judge. I don't care.
19:35Speaker 0Each is own, man. Whatever. Each is own. It's not my kid. Yeah. Yep. Alright. Am I up? I am. So, guys. Love the podcast. When I 1st
19:44Speaker 1yes. When I 1st discovered your podcast, I went back and listened to every Peptide of the Week pod. It certainly helped me make informed decisions on Retta and Glow, which I love so far. But my question is actually for my mother-in-law.
19:57Speaker 1She's in her mid-50s
19:59Speaker 1and is really interested in peptides
20:01Speaker 1after I told her about my results. She's looking for a cognitive boost but also something
20:07Speaker 1that can help
20:08Speaker 1to slow aging. What would you recommend? Her eyes light up when we talk about peptides.
20:13Speaker 1It's really good for her. So just wanna find something for her to try. Thanks, guys.
20:19Speaker 1My 1st thought, so NAD?
20:22Speaker 1NAD is a go to. I mean, NAD just it starts at a cellular level
20:27Speaker 1and helps regenerate. It is the go to for,
20:30Speaker 1yes,
20:31Speaker 1for longevity.
20:33Speaker 1Yeah. And actually, it helps your brain, too. Like,
20:36Speaker 1most people notice, hey, brain fog lifted and sharper,
20:41Speaker 1a bigger cognitive
20:42Speaker 1boost. Then I think that also
20:46Speaker 1MOTS-three and SS-thirty
20:48Speaker 11 and those 2 combined.
20:51Speaker 1At least do 5 mgs of
20:54Speaker 1SS-thirty 1 a day. Okay? Let's see if that's a lot, but I
20:59Speaker 1firmly think that you need to do that much for it to really take effect. And I would a
21:05Speaker 1mgs of MOTS C and 5 mg of
21:09Speaker 1SS-thirty 1 every day for 60 days
21:12Speaker 1plus NAD.
21:13Speaker 1And
21:14Speaker 1I do that personally.
21:18Speaker 1You know? And I find it worked very well.
21:22Speaker 1For her, that's what I would suggest.
21:24Speaker 0Yeah. I mean, I pretty much would answer that that exact same way. You are taking the glow.
21:30Speaker 0That's such a good peptide. I mean, GHKCu
21:33Speaker 0could be added into it, but she's new, so we won't wanna
21:36Speaker 0slam her with some GHK- CU because copper does sting a bit. But the glow, not so bad, know, in my opinion.
21:42Speaker 0You know, the TB-five hundred and the BPC-157,
21:46Speaker 0the GHK- would be an add on for sure, I mean, if she can. I think it's great. Skin, hair, nails,
21:53Speaker 0but Will already answered it. That's a perfect answer. I was gonna say the same thing. And, you know, if
21:58Speaker 1if part of
22:00Speaker 1feeling younger is not hurting as much, that Wolverine blend. Right? The BPC and TB
22:06Speaker 1helps a ton.
22:07Speaker 1100%.
22:08Speaker 1You know? So that yeah. Yeah. But I'd still go with mine, but, like, absolutely. She could add those on with no worries of contraindications
22:15Speaker 1between those. Like,
22:17Speaker 1good for her. Good for her.
22:20Speaker 0Go get it. All right. That seems to be like, though, like that just right there is like what we hear so many times where people see so much change in somebody else because they're taking peptides. What are you doing? And then he gets so intrigued. And then,
22:34Speaker 0so that's so cool, man. I love hearing that stuff. All right.
22:37Speaker 0Hey
22:40Speaker 0guys, thank you again for being the voice of wellness in the space. My question is about splitting doses.
22:45Speaker 0I recently got CJC-twelve
22:47Speaker 095 with Ipatin Mig.
22:50Speaker 0Is it okay to split the dose between AM and PM? My doc prescribed me 2 50 micrograms
22:56Speaker 0in the AM and PM. I'm 42,
22:59Speaker 0weigh 180
23:00Speaker 0pounds, and my body fat is around 10%.
23:03Speaker 0I am also on a low dose of Enclomiphene
23:06Speaker 0and the Wolverine stack. Any other recommendations?
23:09Speaker 0God bless, gentlemen.
23:11Speaker 0You wanna run that? Yeah.
23:13Speaker 1I think it's fine. I think, yes, you I know that
23:17Speaker 1tons of people will take things in AMPM,
23:19Speaker 1like growth hormone secretagogues
23:21Speaker 1and just think. So
23:24Speaker 1in the PM
23:25Speaker 1is when we a little bit after we go to sleep, is when we make really our biggest
23:30Speaker 1growth hormone pulse because it comes in it's a pulsatile release naturally.
23:36Speaker 1So
23:36Speaker 1we often suggest doing it at night to help
23:41Speaker 1boost that already big pulse. But also, absolutely,
23:45Speaker 1if doc says to do that, there's no problem with you splitting it and also taking some in the morning to help the weaker pulse.
23:55Speaker 1And personally,
23:57Speaker 1I take more like 1000
23:59Speaker 1micrograms,
24:00Speaker 1so 1 mg a day.
24:03Speaker 1If it was me, I would take the I would do, like, 500 micrograms in the morning, 500 at night, but start there. You know you're doing too much
24:13Speaker 1if you're maybe getting a little bit of water retention.
24:16Speaker 1Yeah. And some people can handle the higher dose and some people can't.
24:20Speaker 1I think splitting it would even help with that. So if you're a person who wants to do, who's doing 1000
24:27Speaker 1micrograms and
24:28Speaker 1maybe you're getting a little water retention, 1 option is to split that
24:32Speaker 1and go 505
24:34Speaker 1hundred.
24:35Speaker 1It will help with the water retention.
24:38Speaker 0Yeah.
24:40Speaker 0I'll take I'll take a I'll take a little shot at this. So CJC,
24:44Speaker 0sure, if that's what your doctor wants you to run and you wanna try that, there's obviously many more. I'm gonna tell you that I'm gonna I'm a big anybody over 40, I think, and a low dose
24:54Speaker 0of HGH
24:55Speaker 0is always going to be the 1 to run to. Now,
24:59Speaker 0going to personally suggest you take out the Enclomiphene and add in TRT,
25:03Speaker 0it's just gonna get a lot more benefit out of it in my opinion, but that's just my opinion you asked, so I'm answering.
25:10Speaker 0I think you get a lot more out of that.
25:12Speaker 0You don't really talk hugely about your objectives,
25:16Speaker 0but I would run the CJC for a while, run it in the morning, run it at night, or if you do decide to
25:22Speaker 0move things around a bit and you wanna try the HGH in the morning and the CJC at night or the Tesamorelin
25:28Speaker 0at night, as Will said, many people do that morning and night.
25:32Speaker 0And if you like the Enclomiphene,
25:34Speaker 1stick with it. If you wanna try the TRT, you'll probably get more out of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey, look, you're 42 and a 10 is damn good. Like, you're probably you have you're in great shape. 10% everybody is generally recognized like, well, that's when you start seeing abs
25:49Speaker 1is 10%,
25:50Speaker 1sub 10%.
25:51Speaker 1So,
25:53Speaker 1yeah, you're obviously taking the Enclomiphene, well, maybe for fertility,
25:56Speaker 1but sounds like a testosterone boost. Kisspeptin,
25:59Speaker 1maybe,
26:00Speaker 1that we just talked about but nothing is gonna touch
26:03Speaker 1actual
26:05Speaker 1testosterone.
26:06Speaker 1And you're of age and I don't know if we know how to do it safely. You wouldn't do a lot and it'll
26:13Speaker 1big difference.
26:14Speaker 0There you go, man.
26:16Speaker 1Go. And everything in your life. Right?
26:18Speaker 1Okay.
26:21Speaker 1Thank you. Hey, guys. Thanks for all that you do for us as a community. That's cool. Last 2 people. It's my 1st 8 weeks on Retta and Glowstat. My body fat is down from 34%
26:31Speaker 1to now 20%.
26:33Speaker 1Boom. Let's sit there for a 2nd. 34 to 20% in 8 weeks. Everybody, that's what Retta does. Yeah. So if you're like the 1st 1 trying to convince your wife to do that,
26:45Speaker 1proof's in the pudding. And that's body fat percentage.
26:47Speaker 1Okay? So that's taken into consideration.
26:50Speaker 1If that person just lost a whole bunch of muscle, right, the body fat percentage would still be at 34%.
26:56Speaker 1So
26:58Speaker 1it is not indiscriminately
27:00Speaker 1burning calories.
27:01Speaker 1Right?
27:02Speaker 1So it's a good thing. So body fat is down from 34% to 20.
27:07Speaker 1What supplements can I add to help absorb the peptides better if there is such a thing? I heard k 2 d 3
27:14Speaker 1helps,
27:15Speaker 1but how much of it shall I take daily? Anything to add to my supplement list? Grass fed beef liver. Will it help? Thank you from Malaysia.
27:24Speaker 0Wow. Malaysia.
27:26Speaker 1That's pretty cool, man. Yeah, that is cool.
27:30Speaker 1You're doing really well. My 1st NAD.
27:33Speaker 1Okay? NAD is where it all starts. It will allow all the other peptides to
27:38Speaker 1get into you and function a whole lot better. So peptide wise,
27:44Speaker 1I would run NAD
27:46Speaker 1to make, yes, to make anything else work better. The grass fed beef liver is, well, especially like the, like, freeze dried. They make that into a freeze dried supplement to help gut health and absorption.
27:59Speaker 1There's k 2 d 3 is vitamins, I
28:03Speaker 1don't know,
28:05Speaker 1Vitamin d 3 and
28:07Speaker 1metendione.
28:10Speaker 1Those are good, 100%.
28:12Speaker 1Those are better, I think, than for, like, HGH secreted gargs
28:18Speaker 1to help help things absorb, but JD's got some
28:22Speaker 0contributing work. You gotta make sure you're taking a facet. I'm assuming you know that, you mentioned it, so let's start there.
28:29Speaker 0Man, and just man, I just am still sitting on the Malaysia thing. We've that this podcast is being watched in Malaysia. How cool is that?
28:36Speaker 0How is it easy to get peptides in Malaysia? Do you know?
28:39Speaker 1I think it is. I think in most Asian countries, it's very easy. Awesome. That is cool, man. But I don't know, but I can't. Yeah, so fasting,
28:48Speaker 0obviously, you probably know that, but again, I'm just gonna just knock that out because that's hugely important. He nailed it. The NAD is gonna help with the absorption for sure. And then if you're taking orals,
28:59Speaker 0in particular,
29:01Speaker 0SLU- sublinguals,
29:03Speaker 0BPC-157,
29:04Speaker 0there's some other orals. We're not huge fans of them. They are kind of certain they make their way
29:10Speaker 0out there.
29:12Speaker 0But if you are taking the orals, you wanna make sure that you wanna do a digestive enzymes
29:17Speaker 0and you want to also pre and probiotics.
29:20Speaker 0That will help.
29:22Speaker 0Absorption.
29:23Speaker 0So I hope we answered that. I think we did.
29:25Speaker 0All right, my turn. In your previous Q and A, you mentioned that you wouldn't recommend any growth hormone secretagog peptides for people with cancer
29:34Speaker 0concerns because there were other options. Currently running Tessa Ipablen for fat burning, muscle build, premenopausal
29:42Speaker 0symptoms
29:44Speaker 0in the PM, but I was curious what you would recommend for someone with cancer concerns in lieu of the blend.
29:50Speaker 0Yeah, that was a good question because I know we did. I think it was last week. Yes.
29:54Speaker 1We did talk about that. And we'd said, Hey, there's other things that can get your results. You could just stay away from them. So they're asking, Well, what are those other damn things? You want to take that?
30:03Speaker 1Yeah. I mean, I could
30:05Speaker 1start, but quickly, like AOD. Right? If we are looking for the fat burning, AOD is a fragment of HGH, and it has none of the
30:14Speaker 1growth
30:15Speaker 1capability
30:16Speaker 1that we are worried about with cancer, and it has all of the metabolism
30:21Speaker 1implications.
30:22Speaker 1Good answer. That's 1 option. Yeah. Go ahead.
30:26Speaker 0I mean, so
30:28Speaker 0premenopausal symptoms, so you're obviously a woman. I mean,
30:32Speaker 0creatine, HCL, will go a long way. For muscle build, you're not gonna to be completely safe, the AOD, like Will said, that's the last piece of the HGH chain where you're not gonna have to have any of the worries behind it. So that's a great answer for him.
30:45Speaker 0Creatine, in my opinion, and HCL, I'm gonna say for a woman specifically,
30:50Speaker 0not monohydrate because in my opinion, that will bloat you. That's not probably what you want. So creatine will go a long way, especially for a woman. And creatine's amazing. We don't even talk about it much. We're going to do another study on creatine because creatine is freaking awesome. So you should add creatine. That will help with your muscle building.
31:06Speaker 0And then the premenopause
31:07Speaker 0symptoms, I mean, we've done a lot of stuff, I think, on menopause in particular. GHK-3U
31:12Speaker 0for hair, PT-one41
31:14Speaker 0for dryness,
31:16Speaker 0MOTS-3one,
31:18Speaker 1NAD, all of those would do well for the premenopause. Yep. Oxytocin. He's saying PT-one hundred 41 for like Doctor. Sex drive, desire.
31:28Speaker 1But yeah, oxytocin, PT-one hundred 41. And people are running PT-one hundred 41 now like at a
31:33Speaker 1low micro dose. Kind of think of it as like Cialis for daily use, right? The
31:38Speaker 11st use was, Hey, I'll take a 20 mg Cialis and
31:42Speaker 1ready for 3 days.
31:45Speaker 1And that's generally how PT-one hundred 41 has been used because, like, taking 1 hour before the actual
31:50Speaker 1action.
31:51Speaker 1But it can be used in, like, micro dose, small amount every day to just generally
31:59Speaker 1boost your desire at all times. It works, too.
32:03Speaker 0Does.
32:04Speaker 1So
32:05Speaker 1good questions. Hopefully, we answered that.
32:08Speaker 1So 1 portion that, like,
32:11Speaker 1the
32:13Speaker 1really helping kind of put bones stronger
32:17Speaker 1and growth,
32:19Speaker 1sorry, that some of that stuff can really only come from a secreted Gog or come from HGH really,
32:27Speaker 1but it's still probably worth it to not have cancer.
32:30Speaker 0Yeah.
32:31Speaker 1Yeah.
32:32Speaker 1Agreed. All right. But I mean, lifting weights, hey, guess what? We know resistance training, lift weights is gonna like recalcify and strengthen your bones. Right? As you get older and osteoporosis
32:43Speaker 1kind of sets in and it's easier and easier to break bones, if you had or you continually do lift weights and put some good stress on those bones, that will make them stronger naturally.
32:53Speaker 1And eat food. Eat good protein.
32:57Speaker 1Okay. Last 1. This is long.
32:59Speaker 1Cisco here. Love the podcast, you guys. Came across you guys about a month ago and have been listening to it since
33:06Speaker 1and the beginning episodes. Was thinking of getting HGH. What is the difference between HGH and HGH fragment?
33:13Speaker 1Also, is HGH-191AA
33:16Speaker 1somatropin
33:17Speaker 1any good or the same as HGHCJC
33:20Speaker 1with DAC and CJC without DAC?
33:23Speaker 1Is 1 better than the other? Right now, I'm taking the following. Morning time, 5 Amino-1MQ,
33:29Speaker 16 50 micrograms,
33:31Speaker 15 days. MOTS-five
33:33Speaker 1thousand micrograms
33:35Speaker 1a day
33:36Speaker 1for 5 days.
33:38Speaker 1Every 3 days, NAD plus 100 micrograms,
33:42Speaker 1Super low. Reta 40 micrograms,
33:45Speaker 12 mg,
33:47Speaker 1twice a week.
33:48Speaker 1Nighttime Clo 20 units, 700 micrograms. Right now, I'm cycling off Sermorelin.
33:53Speaker 1I'm going to jump on Tesamorelin.
33:56Speaker 1Good. I got into peptides about 6 months ago after my shoulder surgery and basic bicep.
34:01Speaker 1I'm doing great and back in full force. 5 9 45.
34:05Speaker 1It was 2 20 after surgery, and now I'm a lean 1 70. Boom. Boom. That is awesome. I'm about to cycle off everything except for NAD plus So I was thinking of taking the following while cycling off the ones I mentioned.
34:17Speaker 1AOD.
34:18Speaker 1So he's taking he's he's cycling off everything he mentioned
34:21Speaker 1except for NAD. And he's thinking about taking AOD,
34:26Speaker 1Tesamorelin,
34:27Speaker 1or HGH, which 1. Diet is good mostly. Eat meat, fruit, with some cheat days here and there. Gym 5 days a week. Plenty of cardio,
34:36Speaker 120 to 30 k footsteps a day. I'm a union pipe fitter supervisor. I need a ton of stairs. Okay? He does works hard on the job. Just trying to be my best. I can be. You guys are awesome. And if you had a forum
34:50Speaker 1with like a low monthly cost for Q and As, that'd be awesome. Either suggestions on peptide routines, I would join. Thanks again. Any other suggestions, thanks again.
34:59Speaker 1Right. All right. Let me address a few other things, these things. Yeah. I'll go on 1st of all,
35:04Speaker 1what is the difference between HGH and HGH fragment?
35:07Speaker 1Okay?
35:08Speaker 1So
35:10Speaker 1HGH-one
35:12Speaker 1191 AA means there's a 191 amino acids. Okay? That is a real real
35:18Speaker 1HGH is the real thing that our body makes.
35:21Speaker 1Okay? We are just
35:23Speaker 1putting it into ourselves. It's exogenous.
35:25Speaker 1We're putting it into ourselves, but it really is the real it is the thing that our body makes. And
35:31Speaker 1that is called SOAP. So there's that, and then there's HGH FRAG. People have heard just HGH FRAG-176.
35:38Speaker 1Okay?
35:39Speaker 1Means
35:40Speaker 1you are getting out of that 191
35:42Speaker 1amino acid chain, you are getting amino acids 176
35:46Speaker 1through 191.
35:48Speaker 1That's 16 amino acids only. And that is the tail end, and that is just the part that helps with fat burning.
35:55Speaker 1Okay?
35:57Speaker 1So you're getting none of the growth. You're getting none of this portion that helps with all of the growth potential of HGH. You're just getting the metabolism potential.
36:06Speaker 1Also, AOD-nine
36:08Speaker 1604 is also a fragment
36:10Speaker 1of the HGH chain. It is different than HGH frag 176
36:14Speaker 1because it's 177
36:16Speaker 1flu. There's only 15 amino acids,
36:19Speaker 1and is a synthetic version. So it's a lot safer.
36:23Speaker 1AOD-nine thousand 604 is safer,
36:25Speaker 1and
36:26Speaker 1it's more stable and is meant for just fat burning. So there's your difference there. Somatropin
36:32Speaker 1versus
36:33Speaker 1Omnitrobe
36:35Speaker 1or these other things
36:37Speaker 1they say,
36:38Speaker 1they're all the same drug. Okay? Literally,
36:41Speaker 1they're all somatropin.
36:45Speaker 1They are just brand names
36:47Speaker 1from different companies, and it's basically like they patented their delivery system. So
36:54Speaker 1it's like, Hey, an injector pen. Some company will have named some other type of tropin, right?
37:00Speaker 1I don't know, some other just deliveries.
37:02Speaker 1It's all the same drug. You're getting 191
37:04Speaker 1amino acid sequence.
37:07Speaker 1There's no difference other than how you actually administer it. Now, is but that so there's our 191 amino acids,
37:14Speaker 1somatropin,
37:14Speaker 1or any other kind of tropin. Then you have your secreted dogs, right, which is CJC,
37:21Speaker 1Tesamorelin,
37:22Speaker 1Ipamorelin,
37:23Speaker 1MK-677.
37:25Speaker 1Those tell your body to make its own endogenous
37:30Speaker 1HGH.
37:32Speaker 1The real thing, the 191 amino acids, is better,
37:36Speaker 1is stronger.
37:36Speaker 1Okay? The real thing, it's gonna be stronger than your body just
37:41Speaker 1producing it itself and getting a little oomph to its production.
37:45Speaker 0That's about enough with me talking right now. That answer's 0.5. That was good, dude. You did that great. I thought that was a great answer for all that because there's a lot going on there. So you did that was awesome. Good, good, good answer, bro.
37:56Speaker 0I'll catch you on the back later.
37:59Speaker 0My computer just shut off. But also, as you're asking about, should you, if my computer would go on, okay. So you got a lot going on even down here, my brother. So I love it. I love it. I love it. So
38:09Speaker 0you're going to kick the top
38:11Speaker 0stack to the curb and you're going to change it up. You're gonna keep the NAD. Awesome, I would raise the I would do a little bit more NAD for sure. NAD is great. Get all you can from it.
38:23Speaker 0AOD, Tesamorelin,
38:25Speaker 0or HGH. I don't know if you're asking between those 3.
38:29Speaker 0Here would be my answer on that. I mean, I think you could take all 3. I do it often. Not right now, but I do it often. You can.
38:37Speaker 0Depends on your objective. If you're looking to burn fat, there you go, dude, that will help. I'm a big fan of HGH, dude. Does he say his age? Is he over 40? 40.
38:46Speaker 0All right. So I'm gonna say definitely, I think you should do HGH. Now, Will and I discuss this often, but let's talk about it. Okay, HGH
38:54Speaker 0is a long play.
38:55Speaker 0You need to make sure you have a couple bucks in the bank because you really not well, you truly, truly will not really get the stride until about 6 months. 90 days a little bit, but you will feel the full stride. You are running full at about 6 months. So it does it is a long play. So if you have the
39:12Speaker 0if you have the money and you have the you can kinda wait for it to really kinda kick in. HGH, I love it. I love it. So run the HGH.
39:20Speaker 0Then And if you what I would do is once you run the HGH in the morning, 2 IUs is all you need.
39:24Speaker 0Tesamorelin at night.
39:26Speaker 0You can even do the AOD too. I do that often.
39:31Speaker 0What else? I'm trying to go through this pretty long thing. I think that answers that. Did I answer that well? I think so. Can get at the top.
39:39Speaker 0Think I got that in regards to that, in regards to pipeline.
39:43Speaker 0And also, I mean, I think that it's great, man. We 1st off are appreciative of the kind words. We're glad that you love the show. That means a lot to us more than you And
39:52Speaker 0you're talking about adding a forum. So let's talk about that because
39:56Speaker 0we've been putting a lot of work into it. I mean, quite a bit.
40:00Speaker 0Will's the back end, so he let him a little bit more than I, but it takes a lot of work and we're
40:05Speaker 0doing it. So it will be dropping sometime fairly soon. And our objective with that is to
40:11Speaker 0just really be able to answer questions as freely as we can. Social media is pretty strict. YouTube's a little bit not so bad, but we do put most of the stuff on, on each of our channels and everyone's very different.
40:24Speaker 0I do the social media channels and
40:26Speaker 0I have to really walk lines, and it really is difficult, and I get tired of it, but it's part of the game.
40:32Speaker 0So our own forum is going to be able to talk to you guys
40:36Speaker 0very freely, like we're friends sitting across the table, that's and what we're looking to do. So I'm glad that you said that. We are working on it. It is coming soon. Freedom of speech.
40:47Speaker 0Yeah. America.
40:48Speaker 1So, yeah, that's what we're going for.
40:51Speaker 1And I guess a couple other things. I know you put NAD plus 100 micrograms. I don't think that that's
40:57Speaker 1probably a typo.
40:59Speaker 1That's a tiny amount. Even 1000 micrograms,
41:02Speaker 1which is just 1 mg 3 times a week, that's a tiny amount. Would be eating as a grown man, like, I don't know, maybe like 15
41:10Speaker 1to 25 mg 3 times a week. So just yeah. I don't know. Maybe that was a typo, etcetera. But the 1 thing you don't mention, like, dude, you are working hard. Okay? I know you are. I know that job. I've- Tier 3. I got friends that do it, but, like,
41:25Speaker 1are you taking testosterone?
41:27Speaker 1Because if not, you You didn't mention that. I'm maybe almost assuming you are, but
41:33Speaker 1that'll be your best friend, dude.
41:35Speaker 1Especially get older and you keep working hard, that will help a ton.
41:39Speaker 1Oh my god. Other than that, like, SLU-pp, maybe some of the oral
41:43Speaker 1SLU-pp, don't really tell us. I mean, you say you're 1 70, so I don't know how much more weight you're gonna lose.
41:50Speaker 1You know, you don't wanna be getting down too low to be into victim weight.
41:54Speaker 1And
41:56Speaker 1but SLUIP will help with nutrient uptake and actually kind of help build muscle. If you eat enough food,
42:02Speaker 1it'll help with fat. It'll help with everything.
42:04Speaker 1Nutrient partitioning,
42:06Speaker 1maybe IGF-1LR-three,
42:08Speaker 1add some extra muscle on, but testosterone, you're not taking it, do it.
42:12Speaker 0Yeah, man. That was a good question. A very thick question. I think we got I think we answered it.
42:18Speaker 0Whew, that was a good 1, man. Got it, man.
42:21Speaker 0Like Will and I talk about, man. We like the Q and A as well, man. We get a little bit of peace of you guys and again, it
42:28Speaker 0still blows our mind. We weren't even planning on doing this. The fact that this podcast
42:32Speaker 0has grown so fast and continues to grow, we can't even tell you how grateful we are with all your kind words and stuff. Will doesn't even see all the DMs. I go through the DMs, and so I see them constantly. And then I do snapshot and send some to him, but we get a lot. So we are so grateful for all of you guys. It's amazing.
42:49Speaker 1Happy Halloween too. It's Halloween. Shit. I don't even I forget. I get so busy that I forget.
42:55Speaker 0My- You got protein candy? I know.
42:59Speaker 0Yeah. But, yeah, man, that's cool, dude. We gotta, I know, we gotta get to finish up some work, and then I gotta get home for trick or treating. Is it gonna rain, dude? It kinda looks like it's gonna rain. That would suck. My son would be bummed. Yeah.
43:10Speaker 1Umbrellas.
43:13Speaker 0But we will keep you posted on any type of progress with the forum. Obviously, we'll keep you posted, keep the questions coming, keep the DMs on all sites, you know, we're going through each and every 1 of them. And as always, we will try to give you guys what you want because
43:28Speaker 0you're the ones that are listening to it. So leave some DMs if you have some ideas on just particular shows. We are gonna do, I think, 1 on the
43:37Speaker 0creatine because there are differences in creatine. What was the other 1 we were gonna do? Like BCAAs,
43:42Speaker 1protein, some of the just like Yeah. We're you said, well, we're gonna just do that stuff that's actually a
43:46Speaker 0Yeah. That'll let's do that. We'll probably do that. So, yeah, shoot up some DMs if you guys are interested in that because I get a lot of questions on different proteins and there's big differences out there.
43:57Speaker 0Cool, man. Well, all right. Anything else before we go? That's it, everybody. We do appreciate it. All right, man. We will catch you on the flip side. Everybody take care.