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0:09Speaker 0What's up, my friends? Welcome back to the Phep Tide of the Week Podcast. I am your host JD
0:15Speaker 0Denham and my buddy and my cohost across the way, William T. Haas. Happy Friday. What's up, my man? Happy Friday.
0:26Speaker 0My hat's pretty cool. Thank you. I like these hats. These are pretty cool. Yeah, they are. Compliment you. Compliment you. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. Well, I'm excited to do this, man. I'm excited to go through this. We glanced through the questions
0:54Speaker 0We are grateful. So thank you so much, we are going to give you our best here and answer these questions
1:08Speaker 0on what we can do better, you know, we're always looking to grow, man. We're always looking to make this better for you and us. So
1:26Speaker 0let's get after it, brother. You wanna start? You want me to start? I'll start. I'll start. So question 1, benefits
1:37Speaker 1Recommended stacked with AOD, question mark. And do you recommend AOD at night or AM? I currently run AOD at night and ARATA 3 times a week in the morning. Thank you.
1:53Speaker 0will answer because I love AOD. We Will were just talking about this recently. It's probably moved up to 1 of my favorite peptides. I just think it's just amazing.
2:18Speaker 0You lean and just trying to stay lean? Are you trying to lose a bunch of weight? So that would probably
2:31Speaker 0night and morning, I'm not saying you should do it like I do it, but I'll tell you how I do it, You can kind of take it for what it is. I run AOD in the morning and night.
2:50Speaker 0is, it's just the last piece of the HGH chain and its main, main, if not only objective is to burn fat.
2:57Speaker 0Who doesn't want to burn more fat? I'm pretty lean, but why not? So it helps me stay lean. People will be like, Why do you take it then? I like to stay lean.
3:08Speaker 0So, that would be my opinion, man. Should you do it morning and night? That's gonna be up to you. I wouldn't tell you what to do ever.
3:18Speaker 1I think people would be surprised how much fat you actually burn at night. Like, we already know that you build the whole, like, majority of your muscle at nighttime because finally the brain and body get to rest and our body is not stressed out, and and now it does all the rebuilding, period. But you'd be really surprised if you have a good night's sleep, you burn a lot of fat at night.
3:45Speaker 1if that's what you've been telling it to do and if you're eating right on a consistent basing
3:51Speaker 1So at night is a great time to just enhance that, but morning as well, as you're walking through life, you're burning extra calories as actually, you know, living life, so it will help in the morning as well.
4:04Speaker 1I guess unanswered question, benefits or cons of Reta for men and women? I missed that 1. I mean, I don't know if we need to go over the benefits. Like, it does all bunches
4:27Speaker 1GLP-one just slows down your gastric emptying. Essentially, it just moves your food slow. Okay? So guess what? You feel full for longer and therefore you eat less.
4:40Speaker 1anti nausea in there, so that's why you don't get nausea. You don't experience the side effect,
5:04Speaker 1more energy into your brain during those times that you're not eating. So with Retta, it's amazing where you don't if you go through periods of not eating, your brain stays happy, alive, and energetic.
5:15Speaker 1And a huge benefit of Retta is like you still have an appetite. You still actually eat a little bit. You just it forces portion control
5:22Speaker 1and it changes your food desire. So you so the ice cream that you wanna eat, like, just doesn't do it for you, so you stop doing that.
5:31Speaker 0The cons- Are you still hungry, man? I don't, like, I don't ever feel like I'm not hungry. I don't feel like it changes that at all. I don't. I mean, you just get a little bit full quicker. That's the beauty of it. Exactly. Cons for women
5:57Speaker 1I don't know. So I think that answers that. There's nothing particular. I mean, women, hey, if you're breastfeeding or pregnant, like, it's probably just a good idea not to do it. No.
6:37Speaker 1And BPC, like, right, TB travels very well throughout your body. So but who cares? Then put it right into the shoulder along with the BPC
7:03Speaker 0been talking about this quite a bit, obviously, because of my surgery. As you all know, our good friend, Paul back to you, he
7:10Speaker 0had thrown me a high dose of the blend. I don't know if you're talking about the blend or you're talking about the separate. Would just recommend the blend. I think it's amazing and just run high doses of it. I mean, we have been recently talking with a lot of doctors of just different types of
7:40Speaker 0but in my opinion, it's just my opinion, you should run high doses. How would I, I don't know, I ran 3 bottles in the morning and 2 bottles at night. I ran Paul's protocol.
7:51Speaker 0I'm standing here a week or a month later after my surgery, and I was just talking to earlier that I was lifting legs today and I was lifting and I felt freaking amazing, dude. And I'm gonna tell you straight up, no BS.
8:27Speaker 0For those who don't know, the only difference with the Glow and the BPC TB blend is just you're adding the GHK-
8:40Speaker 0should you run it in any type of perpetuity? Probably not copper in perpetuity like the Wolverine.
8:48Speaker 0can have like copper, what is it, poisoning, but you gotta run a shitload. Can't run a shitload.
8:54Speaker 0But sure, for a surgery, brother, I would blast it with those healing peptides as much as your pocketbook would allow, because in my opinion, you will heal fast.
9:09Speaker 0blasting, blasting. Yep. So I hope that answers For it for a girl who doesn't get math, just ask my Amexa
9:33Speaker 1forget that we do this all day, every day for a living, and so it's a bit easier. And then still JD gets confused.
9:46Speaker 0it's not 1 like, put 1 ml here and 10 units is the same. They're all radically different. Yeah. And but okay. So my best explanation is
10:13Speaker 1just published some good information for everybody to notice. I printed out a little page just to maybe help show. I guess whenever we refer to units,
10:22Speaker 1all right, like a unit is not an IU. Okay? Unit is just on an insulin syringe. Okay? Let's see if this can help.
10:36Speaker 1full syringe roll is equal to 1 ml, by the way, and it is 1 through 100 units. If we ever say units,
11:20Speaker 1And then you need to just decide, and that can be just arbitrary based on the dose. It's hard for me to give you an explanation without specific examples,
11:30Speaker 1you need to add the you need to do some math. Again, I can't explain it, but that might hopefully, that graphic helps. Go to peptideresearchinstitute.org.
11:52Speaker 1how much water you feel like adding, and it will tell you whatever your gold dose is, which will also be in milligrams. It'll tell you how many
12:06Speaker 0you're not alone. My wife, I will tell my wife, I always say, Honey, go through the bank account and see how much you spent in the last week because I guarantee you have not. So add it up because a little bunch of little fees add up to a big fee.
12:29Speaker 0yeah, he answered that well. Will's great at it. Yeah, as he said, I'm not the best at it. What I do to simplify everything is I try to do the math to where I take 10 units of everything.
12:39Speaker 0It takes a little time to kinda get a little bit better at it, but that way I just take 10 of each 1
12:44Speaker 0in each day. So, you know, you get better at it as you go. As he said, that website really might look like Chinese right when you open it, but you look at it, it really breaks it down very simplified, so you should be good with that. I'm sure there's other websites too that help, but like, I don't know, I just found that 1 seems to be particularly good.
13:03Speaker 0I'm taking Glow and very happy with it around 7 weeks in. I noticed my skin feels soft and I'm considering canceling my carpal tunnel surgery at the end of the month. How rad? Because I'm hardly having symptoms anymore. I know it's important to cycle off so I don't build a tolerance, but will I lose the progress I've made? Is there anything similar you'd recommend taking during the months off? I would be good alternate or what would be good alternatives for off
13:40Speaker 1man. Good. Glad the glow is working. And yes, we do generally say, Hey, you know, give yourselves a little off period to,
14:01Speaker 1That's actually healing some things. Right? Like, you're not if you go heal an injury with Glo because it's got BPC TB in it, it that the injury is not just going to unravel and unheal on you. The only thing that might
14:35Speaker 1And I do, I think it is a brilliant idea for a person to go, you know, 4 months on something, and then when they come off of that, replace it with something else that is
14:46Speaker 1similar, maybe working through a different pathway, right, to give these pathways a little bit of a break, hit it again, and then do it again. So you're on the right track. You've been listening.
15:25Speaker 1I think, yeah, your tolerance builds. You do need to slightly take a little bit more over time and and, yeah, if you can afford. When you do come off of that, though, I would I would wean down. You tend to eat less food. K? Your metabolism might not be as fast when you come off. So but the goal there is to just is to shrink your stomach and build good reinforced eating habits. So when you slowly come off, you maintain those habits. It might be a little bit harder, might have a little bit more food noise, but now, you know, you're,
16:20Speaker 1I'd probably just take a break and then for a couple weeks and then just get back on it
16:35Speaker 0is great, at night for women. I think Tesamorelin is great for men as well, but man, it just goes for men. For the woman on Tesamorelin, I think it does a lot. So Reta and Tessa together, you would just be fire. I think if you're a woman, that would do a lot for you. I just need to get little doses of that, but I think Will already kinda answered that. I mean, you can take the TB blend, TB- PBC TB blend in my opinion for very, very long times. You know, like you said, it might kind of diminish it a little bit, but you can run those for a long time.
17:55Speaker 1because I don't know, when we're talking about peptide cycles, you're not really doing any damage to yourself, like people who are taking like real PEDs.
18:08Speaker 1when I should put some peptides in, right, like running any type of steroids because that's bad for you.
18:18Speaker 1could be really helpful because you're just you're cleaning up what you did bad to yourself.
18:31Speaker 1common sense, not really common sense, but I have some practice with some things like so FOXO-four
18:37Speaker 1dry. Right? When do wanna take that? Okay. Well, that is cleaning off dead cell. Right? Any dead cells, that's giving them away so new ones can start. So,
19:18Speaker 1a lot of your receptors and everything else, and therefore what you take after it is gonna work a whole lot better.
19:25Speaker 1But then again, it works also on the back end. Hey, if you do 1 of those cycles and then you take Epitalon after, great. That's gonna
19:52Speaker 1how about this? Before you if you're gonna marathon or you really wanna run a heavy cycle that is going to, you know, burn fat, add a lot of muscle,
20:34Speaker 0where your head's at because 1 of my favorite quotes, I've probably even said it on this podcast
20:39Speaker 0because I love the quote, it's Henry Ford and thinking is such hard business that if it were easy, everybody would do it. So the fact that you're thinking through this is rad.
20:50Speaker 0going to be a matter of opinion to be like, I'll kind of give you an example, using myself because me
20:54Speaker 0is, I've been running a lot of fat burners. I like to stay very lean. That's just how I've always been. I've just like lean, lean, lean. That's my thing.
21:01Speaker 0But I'll be coming off those in November. Like I'm thinking through this and I have a strategy. I'm gonna be the methodically
21:08Speaker 0trying to accomplish different things, right? So I'm using my brain like you're doing. So I'm gonna come off of the fat burners. I'm gonna even come off the Retta. I'm gonna reboot off that and I'm gonna go after
21:19Speaker 0the mitochondria and just kind of go off those types of things and the tropics and just go after that for November and December. Now, you're gonna eat a lot of
21:31Speaker 0right? So like what you might think through is, well, I'm gonna get come off the Reta during that and then start it in January because you know you're gonna have a goal in January like we all do, so maybe bust it out then,
21:43Speaker 0maybe go on the fat burners in. So all we're doing, that's just a matter of opinion, man. I'm thinking through like what my goals are, what do I want to accomplish.
21:52Speaker 0I love where your head's at. If you just put a little thought into it yourself, you could figure this stuff out and it's always contingent upon what are my goals.
22:17Speaker 1hot water opens up your upwards up your skins and you wanna put it in your internal thighs right here that soaks in faster. So
22:27Speaker 1it's the 1st step of actual of some TRT, but soaking in. It's really weak. So I've been on it for 3 years and I don't feel it working.
22:44Speaker 1then move on, or take 0.5 and 0.5 for 3 months, or see if it's any good at cleaning barbells?
22:55Speaker 1That's good. That's funny also. I would yeah, dude. I mean, I guess I'm not very impressed with it nor has nor have I
23:09Speaker 1What would I do with it? I maybe not clean the barbells with it, but I would maybe save it and give it to somebody who's scared of who's, like, too scared of needles and maybe
23:42Speaker 0works that well. Your numbers are good, that's cool, but, Siponate, the injections are gonna be, you're gonna be, you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. It's like basically taking a tank main gun versus a BB gun into- Yeah. Night and day. There's a difference.
24:07Speaker 0Ezema, which Yeah, is yeah, go hard. We have a buddy that has that. Dude, yes, absolutely.
24:13Speaker 1So 1 of our mutual friend, our tattoo artist, who's a good friend of ours, he has always had eczema on his elbows and knees, and it was getting here and it was really bugging him.
24:30Speaker 1and he ran that heavily for, shoot, a couple weeks and then a month. And the next time I saw him, they were like,
24:40Speaker 1that's 1 personal story, but I've heard that from several people. And so I would say BPC,
25:38Speaker 0clinic with leaning heavy on peptides. Good for you. Y'all's podcast has drastically improved my business. I have a gym member
26:41Speaker 1providing an extra spark for your engine too or dumping like whatever it is, like the nitrous in your
27:01Speaker 0sound similar, they usually go at it in a different form. You know, you're not gonna have like 2 peptides reading the same, but they go at it the same way. So a lot of times compounding them and like in a synergistic, they work so well. Like the MOTS-three and the SS-thirty 1, those work so well. TB-five 100 and the BPC, you can run them separate, but running them together, they actually work a little better. So I think you should have them do it. Try it, you know, again, it's always gonna boil down. Everybody's a little bit different, but I think you would get a lot out of it. Yeah. Run. Just I don't know. Just
27:50Speaker 1Does. I have not taken that in a long time, but it that I've in a while. That stuff works really well. I mean, basically, it's a fat burner. So people take it mostly as a fat burner. You'll be able to work out harder, longer. You'll you'll start running and be like, damn, this is fun.
28:26Speaker 1okay. Question for peptide of the week. I have heard some say to take SLU-1LiftingWorkout
28:41Speaker 1And that if taken together, they can lose some benefits. So in that scenario, if you work out 5 days a week,
28:55Speaker 1say they work synergistically and combine well together. Thoughts on this? Thanks. Run it, dude. Okay.
29:18Speaker 1BAM 15 makes your mitochondria like your engine your mitochondria revving. So it's working extra hard,
29:27Speaker 1achieving the same goal. So what how that converts is your body you don't really notice like, hey, I'm working extra hard, but I'm not getting any energy. Basically, your body just
29:36Speaker 1burns more calories living. K? Your mitochondria are working a little bit less efficiently.
29:50Speaker 1I think that you should just I think that taking them together, I think they synergistically work better. If, if, if, if your goal is to burn fat,
29:58Speaker 1if in fact your goal is to just like pack on a bunch of muscle, I'd probably leave the BAM-fifteen out of it.
30:05Speaker 1Okay? You don't want all this extra calorie burn that's doing you no good other than just burning calories. You know? Assuming you eat healthy, you want all that protein, right, to get onto your muscles.
30:19Speaker 1Which a high majority of people are going to want to burn calories. Mean, if you're looking to bulk, then there you go. It's a little bit outside of But if you're looking like probably most people to burn calories burn fat,
30:30Speaker 1then run them both. Yeah, and they don't offset each other. It would seem like, you know, some descriptions say SLU-0.0 is gonna make your mitochondria
30:38Speaker 1be more efficient and BAM-fifteen is gonna make it less efficient. So why the hell am I taking them together?
30:44Speaker 1If they're counteracting each other, that's not really the case. They are working upstream and downstream and not at the same time and slightly different. So I'd take them I would take them together.
30:56Speaker 0year old active female, new to peptides and loving them, started Retta and CJC Ipah 6 weeks ago. Feeling amazing, lost 10 pounds, good for you. Don't really need to lose more weight, but want to retain muscle and energy.
31:15Speaker 0I really enjoy learning more about peptides and found your podcast. You guys keep it real and have great advice. Appreciate you. I mean, I can answer this for both of us, just know, Will.
31:26Speaker 0NAD plus for you, it's gonna be great. Did you say it? Oh yeah, your age, 57, absolutely. You should definitely add in some NAD plus I mean,
31:41Speaker 0There's a reason why in particular most movie stars take HGH and NAD because they're freaking awesome.
31:49Speaker 0You would have different opinions and some people are so worried about cancer and all that stuff. That's high doses for the most part, like men who are people
32:02Speaker 0at low dose, which is for 1 IU for a woman and 2 IU for men, you can run them for a very long time with very little
32:09Speaker 0risk to that. So if you're looking to add, I would add that if you can, 1 IU of the HGH and the NAD, those 2 together
32:19Speaker 1Yep, he's right. So I won't even touch that NAD. NAD, for sure, that's the 1st thing that pops in my head. Run that alongside.
32:26Speaker 1If you're ready to continue to lift weights and eat a good amount of protein, I would run like 6 weeks of IGF-1LR-three.
32:33Speaker 1That'll help you add some muscle. And by the way, know you say you're not losing burn any, like losing more fat per se, but beauty is you need to burn It's always hard just to burn that last little bit of fat, right? And usually the answer is, sorry, you gotta add a little bit of muscle, then that little fat's gonna come off.
32:54Speaker 1will really help build muscle. Okay? But do it right, work out hard while you're doing it, and eat correctly along with it. We did a video on that, maybe you can refer to that 1,
33:09Speaker 1Am I up or are you up? I think I am, maybe. So I was put on birth control in 2019 for ovarian cysts, in particular endometriosis.
33:19Speaker 1Have recently done a deep dive with my blood work and have decided to come off of birth control. I'm 37 years old and lift weights 4 days a week.
33:28Speaker 1Is there a peptide that I can add in that may help with the cysts or keep them reduced in size or even get rid of them altogether? I know inflammation is the key.
33:44Speaker 1I'm just going, alright, just take whatever you wanna give me. Like, good shit. Take some damn responsibility
33:57Speaker 1something specific to get rid or lower cysts. I can't answer that. I can't answer inflammation,
34:18Speaker 0you should be taking that anyway for immunity, so you should be blasting at Thymosin Alpha for sure.
34:33Speaker 0sublingual from an amazing company. I should have waited a week to get BAM-fifteen version. My question is, what's the recommendations on dosage of SLUEP p p 3 3 2? My current morning stack
35:44Speaker 0You can run very high doses of the SLU. I mean, that's been coming out more and more and more.
36:10Speaker 0They're easy access because they're so like, when they're sitting there, I'm like, Oh, I'll just take 1. Shoot, man, I'm gonna just take 1 right now, actually. But
36:20Speaker 0I think it's such an amazing peptide, but that's what I would recommend. The low case, I would say 1 mg in the morning, 1 mg at night. If you wanna boost it, what you take a lot of peptides, so you're pretty seasoned. I mean, you could take
36:32Speaker 02 mgs in the morning, 2 mgs at night, That might work well for you, but, play around with it, man, but you can do a lot of SLU.
36:53Speaker 1so I would be thankful maybe, actually, that you just got the SLU-3P. Like, now you get an opportunity to just see what the hell that does, right, instead of having to bam, SLU-3P blend.
37:07Speaker 1sloop, and it's awesome. I would say that you're a grown you're a man. Obviously, you're
37:17Speaker 1and it'll do great wonders for you. I would say, hey, look, I would shit. I'd start off with
37:30Speaker 1Okay? I think that you can handle it. You'll be just fine even up to maybe 5000 micrograms a day.
37:43Speaker 1So based on what you're taking, dude, you can handle it, and I would that's what I would try. And I'd give that a good, like, month, maybe until you until you reach for the BAM, and now you'll have some independent research
37:54Speaker 1and see what you really like. See how that BAM affects you too when you do add it in. Do you feel different? And you probably wanna keep the problem is, I think that with most of the BAM the BAM
38:06Speaker 1and SLU-3P mixtures, you don't wanna go too high on the BAM. And so my suggestion is when you do decide to have the BAM in, you probably want your bottle pure SLUPS
38:14Speaker 1and then your mixes because you're gonna wanna take more SLU-3P. Right? You're wanna take maybe 2 of these a day and then another 1 of these at the same time.
38:26Speaker 1I do that. That. I do that. But, dude, yeah, keep kicking ass. You're living your best lifelike. Yeah. And keep trying trying stuff.
38:35Speaker 0Dude, well, how cool is that, though, that, like, you know, that like, like I said, like, just the people are just obviously learning and growing just like us. That's how we started doing it. I told you, I got into peptides 6 years ago because Will said, Take this for your elbow, BPC-one hundred 57. What the hell is that? A peptide, what is that? Never heard.
38:52Speaker 0And you know what mean? I tried it, I was like, Holy shit, that worked really well. You know what I mean? And that's how it starts for a lot of people, man. Yep. You know? It starts really well. Most
39:27Speaker 1heartwarming that everybody is seeing results and doing things right and trying some stuff out and, yeah, getting benefits.