Peptide Q&A #12 – AOD Timing, Surgery Recovery, Peptide Math, Glow Cycling & Stack Order Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-12-aod-timing-surgery-recovery-peptide-math-glow-cycling-stack-order/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: What's up, my friends? Welcome back to the Phep Tide of the Week Podcast. I am your host JD 0:15 Speaker 0: Denham and my buddy and my cohost across the way, William T. Haas. Happy Friday. What's up, my man? Happy Friday. 0:23 Speaker 0: Dude, 0:24 Speaker 0: that's a cool hat. 0:26 Speaker 0: My hat's pretty cool. Thank you. I like these hats. These are pretty cool. Yeah, they are. Compliment you. Compliment you. Good stuff, man. Good stuff. Well, I'm excited to do this, man. I'm excited to go through this. We glanced through the questions 0:40 Speaker 0: just to see what we had on our plate. Should be 0:43 Speaker 0: easy to go through these today. As always, we are super appreciative 0:47 Speaker 0: of you all, 0:49 Speaker 0: your kind words in our DMs, your just all around support of us and the channel. 0:54 Speaker 0: We are grateful. So thank you so much, we are going to give you our best here and answer these questions 1:00 Speaker 0: to 1:01 Speaker 0: keep this stuff going. 1:03 Speaker 0: And again, in the DMs, 1:05 Speaker 0: if there's any any any just feedback 1:08 Speaker 0: on what we can do better, you know, we're always looking to grow, man. We're always looking to make this better for you and us. So 1:16 Speaker 0: constructive feedback is welcomed, my friends. 1:19 Speaker 1: Yes, sir. 1:21 Speaker 0: Correct. This Q and A episode, 1:24 Speaker 0: 1 of our favorites. 1:25 Speaker 0: Think, 1:26 Speaker 0: let's get after it, brother. You wanna start? You want me to start? I'll start. I'll start. So question 1, benefits 1:32 Speaker 1: and or cons of Retta for men and women. 1:37 Speaker 1: Recommended stacked with AOD, question mark. And do you recommend AOD at night or AM? I currently run AOD at night and ARATA 3 times a week in the morning. Thank you. 1:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. Go ahead. You get to it. I 1:53 Speaker 0: will answer because I love AOD. We Will were just talking about this recently. It's probably moved up to 1 of my favorite peptides. I just think it's just amazing. 2:02 Speaker 0: I just think it really, really does just help to burn that fat. Taking the Reta 2:08 Speaker 0: and the AOD together is a powerhouse team, in my opinion. 2:13 Speaker 0: It depends on how much are you trying to lose. Obviously, you don't say that. 2:18 Speaker 0: You lean and just trying to stay lean? Are you trying to lose a bunch of weight? So that would probably 2:23 Speaker 0: play a role in some of it, but yeah, I think either 2:25 Speaker 0: way, you 2:27 Speaker 0: should run them together. Now, 2:30 Speaker 0: recommended 2:31 Speaker 0: night and morning, I'm not saying you should do it like I do it, but I'll tell you how I do it, You can kind of take it for what it is. I run AOD in the morning and night. 2:40 Speaker 0: So I run, 20 units in the morning, I run 20 units at night, 2:46 Speaker 0: because for those of you listening that don't know what AOD 2:50 Speaker 0: is, it's just the last piece of the HGH chain and its main, main, if not only objective is to burn fat. 2:57 Speaker 0: Who doesn't want to burn more fat? I'm pretty lean, but why not? So it helps me stay lean. People will be like, Why do you take it then? I like to stay lean. 3:05 Speaker 0: So that's why I take it. These help. 3:08 Speaker 0: So, that would be my opinion, man. Should you do it morning and night? That's gonna be up to you. I wouldn't tell you what to do ever. 3:14 Speaker 0: That's what I do. 3:15 Speaker 0: You got anything different on that, Will? 3:18 Speaker 1: I think people would be surprised how much fat you actually burn at night. Like, we already know that you build the whole, like, majority of your muscle at nighttime because finally the brain and body get to rest and our body is not stressed out, and and now it does all the rebuilding, period. But you'd be really surprised if you have a good night's sleep, you burn a lot of fat at night. 3:41 Speaker 1: Because again, body's trying to get rid of all that bad stuff and especially 3:45 Speaker 1: if that's what you've been telling it to do and if you're eating right on a consistent basing 3:49 Speaker 1: your metabolism stays high. 3:51 Speaker 1: So at night is a great time to just enhance that, but morning as well, as you're walking through life, you're burning extra calories as actually, you know, living life, so it will help in the morning as well. 4:04 Speaker 1: I guess unanswered question, benefits or cons of Reta for men and women? I missed that 1. I mean, I don't know if we need to go over the benefits. Like, it does all bunches 4:15 Speaker 1: amazing 4:17 Speaker 1: things, right? Reta is a triple agonist on 4:21 Speaker 1: your GLP-one, 4:22 Speaker 1: your GIP, 4:24 Speaker 1: and GCG. 4:27 Speaker 1: GLP-one just slows down your gastric emptying. Essentially, it just moves your food slow. Okay? So guess what? You feel full for longer and therefore you eat less. 4:37 Speaker 1: Reta has a whole bunch of 4:40 Speaker 1: anti nausea in there, so that's why you don't get nausea. You don't experience the side effect, 4:45 Speaker 1: which is no appetite, right, and nausea that you experience with 4:50 Speaker 1: previous ones. 4:52 Speaker 1: GLP-1S, 4:53 Speaker 1: GLP-2T. 4:55 Speaker 1: GIP 4:56 Speaker 1: helps burn 4:58 Speaker 1: fat, 4:59 Speaker 1: and GCG helps burn even more fat. It also is gonna help shuttle 5:04 Speaker 1: more energy into your brain during those times that you're not eating. So with Retta, it's amazing where you don't if you go through periods of not eating, your brain stays happy, alive, and energetic. 5:15 Speaker 1: And a huge benefit of Retta is like you still have an appetite. You still actually eat a little bit. You just it forces portion control 5:22 Speaker 1: and it changes your food desire. So you so the ice cream that you wanna eat, like, just doesn't do it for you, so you stop doing that. 5:28 Speaker 1: You eat protein so you can keep muscle on. 5:31 Speaker 0: The cons- Are you still hungry, man? I don't, like, I don't ever feel like I'm not hungry. I don't feel like it changes that at all. I don't. I mean, you just get a little bit full quicker. That's the beauty of it. Exactly. Cons for women 5:43 Speaker 1: or men, I don't think I don't know of any, like, particular cons versus men or women, 5:50 Speaker 1: and I can't really think of any actually notable cons 5:54 Speaker 1: at all. K? 5:57 Speaker 1: I don't know. So I think that answers that. There's nothing particular. I mean, women, hey, if you're breastfeeding or pregnant, like, it's probably just a good idea not to do it. No. 6:07 Speaker 1: That's all I got. 6:09 Speaker 0: Yep. Easy math. 6:11 Speaker 0: What is the best dose BPC 6:13 Speaker 0: -one hundred 57 and TB-five hundred for bicep rupture repair post surgery? 6:18 Speaker 0: And what area is best to inject? 6:21 Speaker 0: Flood around bicep or just sub q abdomen? 6:25 Speaker 0: Also, should I continue using microdose 6:27 Speaker 0: of GlowStack as well? 6:30 Speaker 0: Yeah, I'll give you a quick 1st answer. 6:33 Speaker 1: In the area. Do it in the area, okay? 6:37 Speaker 1: And BPC, like, right, TB travels very well throughout your body. So but who cares? Then put it right into the shoulder along with the BPC 6:45 Speaker 1: or wherever it was, bicep. Right? 6:47 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 6:49 Speaker 1: Put it right there. Continue with the GlowStack. That 6:52 Speaker 1: just can't hurt. It's only gonna help for your recovery. Now, JD, you can give them 6:57 Speaker 1: dose specific 6:58 Speaker 1: because you just had surgery and Yeah, just did 7:02 Speaker 0: we've 7:03 Speaker 0: been talking about this quite a bit, obviously, because of my surgery. As you all know, our good friend, Paul back to you, he 7:10 Speaker 0: had thrown me a high dose of the blend. I don't know if you're talking about the blend or you're talking about the separate. Would just recommend the blend. I think it's amazing and just run high doses of it. I mean, we have been recently talking with a lot of doctors of just different types of 7:25 Speaker 0: these, 7:26 Speaker 0: how 7:28 Speaker 0: surgeons and whatnot should recommend 7:30 Speaker 0: the Wolverine 7:31 Speaker 0: stack to 7:33 Speaker 0: almost everybody all the way up to the surgery and all the way back. 7:37 Speaker 0: Obviously, everything's contingent upon pocketbook, 7:40 Speaker 0: but in my opinion, it's just my opinion, you should run high doses. How would I, I don't know, I ran 3 bottles in the morning and 2 bottles at night. I ran Paul's protocol. 7:51 Speaker 0: I'm standing here a week or a month later after my surgery, and I was just talking to earlier that I was lifting legs today and I was lifting and I felt freaking amazing, dude. And I'm gonna tell you straight up, no BS. 8:04 Speaker 0: A big part of that was the peptides, that Wolverine stack. I ran high doses 8:10 Speaker 0: and 8:11 Speaker 0: I healed freaking quick, 8:13 Speaker 0: man. 8:14 Speaker 0: So, should you run Glow II? Sure, why not? I think you can run the Wolverine 8:20 Speaker 0: forever. 8:21 Speaker 0: I don't think you ever even need to stop. I just 8:24 Speaker 0: think it's such an amazing peptide. 8:27 Speaker 0: For those who don't know, the only difference with the Glow and the BPC TB blend is just you're adding the GHK- 8:33 Speaker 0: The only, if it's even a negative, 8:36 Speaker 0: you're adding it's a copper peptide, so 8:40 Speaker 0: should you run it in any type of perpetuity? Probably not copper in perpetuity like the Wolverine. 8:46 Speaker 0: It's a lower dose, so I don't think you 8:48 Speaker 0: can have like copper, what is it, poisoning, but you gotta run a shitload. Can't run a shitload. 8:54 Speaker 0: But sure, for a surgery, brother, I would blast it with those healing peptides as much as your pocketbook would allow, because in my opinion, you will heal fast. 9:04 Speaker 1: Yep, before and after surgery. When I Pre and post, right? Blasting. Blasting, 9:09 Speaker 0: blasting, blasting. Yep. So I hope that answers For it for a girl who doesn't get math, just ask my Amexa 9:16 Speaker 1: statement. 9:17 Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. That's good. Can 9:20 Speaker 1: y'all explain reconstituting 9:22 Speaker 1: meds and how 9:23 Speaker 1: the dose then translates 9:25 Speaker 1: to syringes units? Thank you. 9:30 Speaker 1: You're not alone, 1st of all. We 9:33 Speaker 1: forget that we do this all day, every day for a living, and so it's a bit easier. And then still JD gets confused. 9:42 Speaker 1: It's a good thing to tell, man. You're talking about different peptides, 9:46 Speaker 0: it's not 1 like, put 1 ml here and 10 units is the same. They're all radically different. Yeah. And but okay. So my best explanation is 9:55 Speaker 1: so 1st of all, there's a cool website, 9:59 Speaker 1: peptideresearchinstitute.org, 10:01 Speaker 1: okay, 10:04 Speaker 1: That has different protocols 10:07 Speaker 1: for different peptides. It's just out for anybody whenever it's somebody's 10:12 Speaker 1: site that 10:13 Speaker 1: just published some good information for everybody to notice. I printed out a little page just to maybe help show. I guess whenever we refer to units, 10:22 Speaker 1: all right, like a unit is not an IU. Okay? Unit is just on an insulin syringe. Okay? Let's see if this can help. 10:31 Speaker 1: On an insulin syringe, 10:33 Speaker 1: there's a 100 units. 1 10:36 Speaker 1: full syringe roll is equal to 1 ml, by the way, and it is 1 through 100 units. If we ever say units, 10:43 Speaker 1: we're talking about the actual 10:45 Speaker 1: specific 10:46 Speaker 1: integers on that syringe. 10:48 Speaker 1: Okay? And it's usually marked you can see there's a mark for 10, 10:53 Speaker 1: 20, 30, 40 with little hash marks in between indicating, you know, 1 through 5. So 10:59 Speaker 1: you need to every bottle has powder 11:03 Speaker 1: and that is in in measures of grams. 11:06 Speaker 1: K? That's a measure of mass. 11:08 Speaker 1: Volume liquid is a liquid is a vol and mls is a measure of volume. 11:13 Speaker 1: So 11:15 Speaker 1: it depends which 11:17 Speaker 1: you 1st need grams come in the powder. K? 11:20 Speaker 1: And then you need to just decide, and that can be just arbitrary based on the dose. It's hard for me to give you an explanation without specific examples, 11:28 Speaker 1: but 11:30 Speaker 1: you need to add the you need to do some math. Again, I can't explain it, but that might hopefully, that graphic helps. Go to peptideresearchinstitute.org. 11:39 Speaker 1: There are peptide calculators everywhere too. 11:43 Speaker 1: Okay? And that will 11:45 Speaker 1: some of them are really good. You just type in how much powder is in your vial in 11:50 Speaker 1: milligrams, 11:52 Speaker 1: how much water you feel like adding, and it will tell you whatever your gold dose is, which will also be in milligrams. It'll tell you how many 12:00 Speaker 1: units you draw. So that's 12:02 Speaker 1: probably not helpful, but- 12:04 Speaker 0: Well, to answer your question, 12:06 Speaker 0: you're not alone. My wife, I will tell my wife, I always say, Honey, go through the bank account and see how much you spent in the last week because I guarantee you have not. So add it up because a little bunch of little fees add up to a big fee. 12:22 Speaker 0: True conversation. 12:23 Speaker 0: So 12:24 Speaker 0: women are not good at math. Thought I was funny too. 12:27 Speaker 0: But 12:29 Speaker 0: yeah, he answered that well. Will's great at it. Yeah, as he said, I'm not the best at it. What I do to simplify everything is I try to do the math to where I take 10 units of everything. 12:39 Speaker 0: It takes a little time to kinda get a little bit better at it, but that way I just take 10 of each 1 12:44 Speaker 0: in each day. So, you know, you get better at it as you go. As he said, that website really might look like Chinese right when you open it, but you look at it, it really breaks it down very simplified, so you should be good with that. I'm sure there's other websites too that help, but like, I don't know, I just found that 1 seems to be particularly good. 13:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. 13:03 Speaker 0: I'm taking Glow and very happy with it around 7 weeks in. I noticed my skin feels soft and I'm considering canceling my carpal tunnel surgery at the end of the month. How rad? Because I'm hardly having symptoms anymore. I know it's important to cycle off so I don't build a tolerance, but will I lose the progress I've made? Is there anything similar you'd recommend taking during the months off? I would be good alternate or what would be good alternatives for off 13:31 Speaker 0: months for peptides you recommend frequently 13:34 Speaker 0: like Retatrutide, 13:36 Speaker 0: Entesamorelin, Ipamorelin. 13:39 Speaker 1: Alright. Cool, 13:40 Speaker 1: man. Good. Glad the glow is working. And yes, we do generally say, Hey, you know, give yourselves a little off period to, 13:47 Speaker 1: yeah, to kind of reset the sensitivity 13:50 Speaker 1: of your body receptors, 13:52 Speaker 1: etcetera. 13:53 Speaker 1: So 13:55 Speaker 1: I 13:57 Speaker 1: would say that okay. So 1st of all, you're taking Glow. 14:01 Speaker 1: That's actually healing some things. Right? Like, you're not if you go heal an injury with Glo because it's got BPC TB in it, it that the injury is not just going to unravel and unheal on you. The only thing that might 14:15 Speaker 1: not be permanent is the anti inflammation 14:19 Speaker 1: benefits from the glow. I would say, I would try 14:22 Speaker 1: Thymosin Alpha 14:24 Speaker 1: to reduce inflammation. Cartilax. 14:27 Speaker 1: So Cartilax is not 14:29 Speaker 1: known very well, but very similar to BPC and will help with healing 14:34 Speaker 1: and inflammation. 14:35 Speaker 1: And I do, I think it is a brilliant idea for a person to go, you know, 4 months on something, and then when they come off of that, replace it with something else that is 14:46 Speaker 1: similar, maybe working through a different pathway, right, to give these pathways a little bit of a break, hit it again, and then do it again. So you're on the right track. You've been listening. 14:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, 14:58 Speaker 1: Cardilax, Thymosin Alpha, really help with the anti inflammation. 15:01 Speaker 1: Mean, frankly, yeah, you can run BPC TB just constantly. 15:06 Speaker 1: The only drawback is, yeah, it might stop working out as good. So, 15:11 Speaker 1: then maybe something like 15:14 Speaker 1: Reta, 15:16 Speaker 1: I have no replacement that is as good as that. And 15:20 Speaker 1: I also have no problem with somebody just taking a low dose for a long, long time. 15:25 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, your tolerance builds. You do need to slightly take a little bit more over time and and, yeah, if you can afford. When you do come off of that, though, I would I would wean down. You tend to eat less food. K? Your metabolism might not be as fast when you come off. So but the goal there is to just is to shrink your stomach and build good reinforced eating habits. So when you slowly come off, you maintain those habits. It might be a little bit harder, might have a little bit more food noise, but now, you know, you're, 15:53 Speaker 1: you know, exercise a little bit of willpower 15:57 Speaker 1: and, 15:58 Speaker 1: yeah, come off it naturally. Now there are other fat burners, AOD, 5Ramino-1MQ, 16:03 Speaker 1: SLU-PP-three 16:05 Speaker 1: 32 that you could take in place of that. As far as the Tesa IpA blend, 16:10 Speaker 1: CJC 16:11 Speaker 1: Ipu, 16:13 Speaker 1: you could take those 16:15 Speaker 1: instead, although it's still doing kind of the same thing. The Tesa Ipu, 16:20 Speaker 1: I'd probably just take a break and then for a couple weeks and then just get back on it 16:26 Speaker 0: That's what they got. 16:28 Speaker 0: I don't think that this person, 16:30 Speaker 0: are they a woman or a man? It didn't look like they said. Not at Tessa 16:35 Speaker 0: is great, at night for women. I think Tesamorelin is great for men as well, but man, it just goes for men. For the woman on Tesamorelin, I think it does a lot. So Reta and Tessa together, you would just be fire. I think if you're a woman, that would do a lot for you. I just need to get little doses of that, but I think Will already kinda answered that. I mean, you can take the TB blend, TB- PBC TB blend in my opinion for very, very long times. You know, like you said, it might kind of diminish it a little bit, but you can run those for a long time. 17:05 Speaker 0: So if you're taking the Glow now, 17:07 Speaker 0: pull it out and then just add those 2 and 17:11 Speaker 0: we'll answer that. So I think you're good on that. 17:14 Speaker 0: I'd love to know for those of us who run different cycles year around, 17:18 Speaker 0: is there a benefit 17:20 Speaker 0: of what order they are ran? Example, 17:23 Speaker 0: do you get more out of mitochondria 17:25 Speaker 0: cycle before or after immunity cycle? 17:29 Speaker 0: When is it best to run FOX-four 17:31 Speaker 0: to your eye after a certain cycle? 17:34 Speaker 0: When should you sprinkle in the bioregulators 17:37 Speaker 0: just looking to get the best use out of these amazing tools? 17:42 Speaker 1: What do think, Will? That's a loaded question. It's a great 17:46 Speaker 1: question. 17:47 Speaker 1: It's hard to answer without 17:49 Speaker 1: specifics. 17:52 Speaker 1: I can say those of you, 17:55 Speaker 1: because I don't know, when we're talking about peptide cycles, you're not really doing any damage to yourself, like people who are taking like real PEDs. 18:04 Speaker 1: I could have a better answer if we're talking about PED cycles and then 18:08 Speaker 1: when I should put some peptides in, right, like running any type of steroids because that's bad for you. 18:16 Speaker 1: And then 18:17 Speaker 1: doing it after 18:18 Speaker 1: could be really helpful because you're just you're cleaning up what you did bad to yourself. 18:23 Speaker 1: But 18:25 Speaker 1: specifically, 18:27 Speaker 1: I guess here are just some, 18:30 Speaker 1: I mean, 18:31 Speaker 1: common sense, not really common sense, but I have some practice with some things like so FOXO-four 18:37 Speaker 1: dry. Right? When do wanna take that? Okay. Well, that is cleaning off dead cell. Right? Any dead cells, that's giving them away so new ones can start. So, 18:45 Speaker 1: hey, run that after you run 18:48 Speaker 1: any cycle that might produce some dead cells. 18:51 Speaker 1: Now with peptides, again, there's 18:53 Speaker 1: not a bunch of cycles that are killing off cells, a whole bunch. The immunity 18:58 Speaker 1: cycles, 18:59 Speaker 1: especially Epitalon, 19:00 Speaker 1: Epitalon is really good. So Epitalon is good 19:04 Speaker 1: for right before you're about to do 19:08 Speaker 1: a major cycle, let's say a fat burning or muscle gaining, okay, because it will 19:15 Speaker 1: it's basically like a detox. It's gonna resensitize 19:18 Speaker 1: a lot of your receptors and everything else, and therefore what you take after it is gonna work a whole lot better. 19:24 Speaker 1: Okay? 19:25 Speaker 1: But then again, it works also on the back end. Hey, if you do 1 of those cycles and then you take Epitalon after, great. That's gonna 19:33 Speaker 1: clear you out also 19:35 Speaker 1: and prep you for the next thing. 19:39 Speaker 1: And as far as the bioregulators, 19:40 Speaker 1: depends on which you're talking about. 19:43 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry I can't give you a specific answer on that 1. 19:48 Speaker 1: You know, before 19:49 Speaker 1: you run a 19:50 Speaker 1: big 19:52 Speaker 1: how about this? Before you if you're gonna marathon or you really wanna run a heavy cycle that is going to, you know, burn fat, add a lot of muscle, 20:01 Speaker 1: I think that like a mitochondrial 20:03 Speaker 1: cycle to beef your mitochondria up, increase the integrity of the walls, 20:08 Speaker 1: etcetera, 20:09 Speaker 1: is a good idea to do that before 20:11 Speaker 1: competition. 20:12 Speaker 1: So now your cells, your mitochondria is 20:14 Speaker 1: working really good and efficient and now you will 20:19 Speaker 1: kick ass in that performance or whatever it is. 20:22 Speaker 1: Then again, you could do that during the performance. 20:25 Speaker 1: It's tough. 20:26 Speaker 1: It's a matter of opinion. It's a matter of opinion, man, and actually 20:30 Speaker 1: really just 20:31 Speaker 1: on specific peptides. 20:33 Speaker 0: Like 20:34 Speaker 0: where your head's at because 1 of my favorite quotes, I've probably even said it on this podcast 20:39 Speaker 0: because I love the quote, it's Henry Ford and thinking is such hard business that if it were easy, everybody would do it. So the fact that you're thinking through this is rad. 20:48 Speaker 0: So it's 20:50 Speaker 0: going to be a matter of opinion to be like, I'll kind of give you an example, using myself because me 20:54 Speaker 0: is, I've been running a lot of fat burners. I like to stay very lean. That's just how I've always been. I've just like lean, lean, lean. That's my thing. 21:01 Speaker 0: But I'll be coming off those in November. Like I'm thinking through this and I have a strategy. I'm gonna be the methodically 21:08 Speaker 0: trying to accomplish different things, right? So I'm using my brain like you're doing. So I'm gonna come off of the fat burners. I'm gonna even come off the Retta. I'm gonna reboot off that and I'm gonna go after 21:19 Speaker 0: the mitochondria and just kind of go off those types of things and the tropics and just go after that for November and December. Now, you're gonna eat a lot of 21:28 Speaker 0: shittier foods in holidays, 21:31 Speaker 0: right? So like what you might think through is, well, I'm gonna get come off the Reta during that and then start it in January because you know you're gonna have a goal in January like we all do, so maybe bust it out then, 21:43 Speaker 0: maybe go on the fat burners in. So all we're doing, that's just a matter of opinion, man. I'm thinking through like what my goals are, what do I want to accomplish. 21:51 Speaker 0: So 21:52 Speaker 0: I love where your head's at. If you just put a little thought into it yourself, you could figure this stuff out and it's always contingent upon what are my goals. 22:00 Speaker 0: You know what mean? I hope that answered. I think it did, Ken, so. Yeah. 22:04 Speaker 1: Okay. 22:05 Speaker 1: Anyway, what's your opinion on Testogel? 22:08 Speaker 1: They're talking about testosterone 22:10 Speaker 1: cream or testosterone gel where you rub onto your body 22:15 Speaker 1: a shower, after 22:17 Speaker 1: hot water opens up your upwards up your skins and you wanna put it in your internal thighs right here that soaks in faster. So 22:27 Speaker 1: it's the 1st step of actual of some TRT, but soaking in. It's really weak. So I've been on it for 3 years and I don't feel it working. 22:37 Speaker 1: Although my numbers are good. Okay? 22:39 Speaker 1: I'm moving into Scipione, but have 2 bottles of gel left. Would you use them up, 22:44 Speaker 1: then move on, or take 0.5 and 0.5 for 3 months, or see if it's any good at cleaning barbells? 22:51 Speaker 0: I thought you were gonna straight on DSIP unit. Thanks. 22:55 Speaker 1: That's good. That's funny also. I would yeah, dude. I mean, I guess I'm not very impressed with it nor has nor have I 23:02 Speaker 1: heard people be very impressed with it. I think it's better for women. 23:06 Speaker 1: For a man, it's just not enough at all. 23:09 Speaker 1: What would I do with it? I maybe not clean the barbells with it, but I would maybe save it and give it to somebody who's scared of who's, like, too scared of needles and maybe 23:19 Speaker 1: there you go, it's a nice present or give it to 23:22 Speaker 1: some woman who 23:24 Speaker 1: wants it. 23:26 Speaker 0: True that. I've never heard of anybody talking highly of it. 23:30 Speaker 0: A lot of doctors start with that. I just think 23:34 Speaker 0: throw it in the trash, man. See if you can get a 23:37 Speaker 0: push. It's 23:39 Speaker 0: my opinion. Would never run it. I don't think it 23:42 Speaker 0: works that well. Your numbers are good, that's cool, but, Siponate, the injections are gonna be, you're gonna be, you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. It's like basically taking a tank main gun versus a BB gun into- Yeah. Night and day. There's a difference. 23:57 Speaker 1: Okay. 24:00 Speaker 1: Go ahead. You wanna read those 6 words? 24:03 Speaker 0: Yeah, any peptide recommendations for Ezema flare ups? Ezema. 24:07 Speaker 0: Ezema, which Yeah, is yeah, go hard. We have a buddy that has that. Dude, yes, absolutely. 24:13 Speaker 1: So 1 of our mutual friend, our tattoo artist, who's a good friend of ours, he has always had eczema on his elbows and knees, and it was getting here and it was really bugging him. 24:26 Speaker 1: I gave him some TB BPC blend, 24:30 Speaker 1: and he ran that heavily for, shoot, a couple weeks and then a month. And the next time I saw him, they were like, 24:37 Speaker 1: down to here. K? 24:39 Speaker 1: So 24:40 Speaker 1: that's 1 personal story, but I've heard that from several people. And so I would say BPC, 24:46 Speaker 1: TB, 24:47 Speaker 1: even thymosin alpha, and KPV. 24:49 Speaker 1: Yep. 24:51 Speaker 1: That's my recommendation. I also know that for vitiligo, 24:57 Speaker 1: which is that condition where your skin is 24:59 Speaker 1: turning 25:01 Speaker 1: white or you're losing pigment in it, right? The 25:05 Speaker 1: peptide treatments is an absolute recommendation. 25:08 Speaker 1: Same thing, BPC, 25:10 Speaker 1: TB, Thymosin Alpha, KPV, 25:13 Speaker 1: and in that case, like Melanotan-one 25:16 Speaker 1: to help the melanin in your skin. 25:19 Speaker 1: So 25:20 Speaker 1: I think there's a whole lot of hope for you. I would run that. I would 25:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. 25:27 Speaker 1: Should work. 25:28 Speaker 0: Try it. Do it. I love hearing stories like that, man. It's so cool. 25:32 Speaker 0: All right. I own a functional fitness gym and about 6 months ago opened a wellness 25:38 Speaker 0: clinic with leaning heavy on peptides. Good for you. Y'all's podcast has drastically improved my business. I have a gym member 25:45 Speaker 0: asking to start 25:47 Speaker 0: taking Methylene Blue tablets for athletic performance enhancement. 25:51 Speaker 0: Everything I have learned seems like it is similar to MOTS-3C. 25:55 Speaker 0: Any insight? 25:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. They are different. 26:00 Speaker 1: They're different. 26:01 Speaker 1: I think that 26:03 Speaker 1: but I do think that they're 26:05 Speaker 1: not, yeah, take them together. Sure. I think it absolutely will help. MOTS-3C is 26:11 Speaker 1: is really like, 26:13 Speaker 1: I don't know, training 26:15 Speaker 1: training your mitochondria, 26:17 Speaker 1: right, to behave like an athlete. Right? Like, it's it's adaptable. 26:20 Speaker 1: You you'll it'll enhance performance. You'll be better at 26:25 Speaker 1: dealing with stress. 26:27 Speaker 1: Methylene Blue is literally it's an electron transport 26:30 Speaker 1: system, 26:31 Speaker 1: and it is like 26:33 Speaker 1: jacking your car into straight 26:36 Speaker 1: electricity 26:37 Speaker 1: while the engine's running and now it can run on both, 26:41 Speaker 1: providing an extra spark for your engine too or dumping like whatever it is, like the nitrous in your 26:48 Speaker 1: having a nitrous injection into your car engine. So hell yeah, I would do both. 26:54 Speaker 0: Yeah, most 26:56 Speaker 0: times, 26:57 Speaker 0: you know, even if you on paper, lot of if these peptides 27:01 Speaker 0: sound similar, they usually go at it in a different form. You know, you're not gonna have like 2 peptides reading the same, but they go at it the same way. So a lot of times compounding them and like in a synergistic, they work so well. Like the MOTS-three and the SS-thirty 1, those work so well. TB-five 100 and the BPC, you can run them separate, but running them together, they actually work a little better. So I think you should have them do it. Try it, you know, again, it's always gonna boil down. Everybody's a little bit different, but I think you would get a lot out of it. Yeah. Run. Just I don't know. Just 27:30 Speaker 1: methylene blue don't take way too much. K? 27:34 Speaker 1: Another thing for performance enhancing, Carderine. 27:37 Speaker 1: Carderine, it's not a peptide. 27:39 Speaker 1: It's closer to a SARM, but it's not really a SARM. 27:43 Speaker 1: But that stuff kicks ass as far as actual, like, 27:47 Speaker 1: muscle and 27:48 Speaker 0: respiratory endurance. 27:50 Speaker 1: Does. I have not taken that in a long time, but it that I've in a while. That stuff works really well. I mean, basically, it's a fat burner. So people take it mostly as a fat burner. You'll be able to work out harder, longer. You'll you'll start running and be like, damn, this is fun. 28:04 Speaker 1: Then that 28:05 Speaker 1: converts to fat burning, but also it tells your body to use your 28:09 Speaker 1: fat for energy instead of your sugars. 28:13 Speaker 1: So kind of like puts you in the state of ketosis without having 28:17 Speaker 1: to eat in ketosis. 28:19 Speaker 1: That's what does. 28:20 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Alright. Next. I'm 28:24 Speaker 1: a 28:26 Speaker 1: okay. Question for peptide of the week. I have heard some say to take SLU-1LiftingWorkout 28:33 Speaker 1: days and BAM 15 on non lifting days because 1 revs up the mitochondria 28:39 Speaker 1: and 1 sort of calms them down. 28:41 Speaker 1: And that if taken together, they can lose some benefits. So in that scenario, if you work out 5 days a week, 28:48 Speaker 1: you'd only take BAM on your recovery days. Others 28:55 Speaker 1: say they work synergistically and combine well together. Thoughts on this? Thanks. Run it, dude. Okay. 29:02 Speaker 1: We did the I think we we did a we 29:05 Speaker 1: did a podcast literally on these together 29:09 Speaker 1: last week, maybe, 2 weeks ago. 29:11 Speaker 1: It's an easy confusion there because 29:15 Speaker 1: and you're right about that. Essentially, 29:18 Speaker 1: BAM 15 makes your mitochondria like your engine your mitochondria revving. So it's working extra hard, 29:24 Speaker 1: but 29:26 Speaker 1: actually 29:27 Speaker 1: achieving the same goal. So what how that converts is your body you don't really notice like, hey, I'm working extra hard, but I'm not getting any energy. Basically, your body just 29:36 Speaker 1: burns more calories living. K? Your mitochondria are working a little bit less efficiently. 29:40 Speaker 1: So you're burning more calories just all day long while it's active in you. 29:46 Speaker 1: That's really it. 29:50 Speaker 1: I think that you should just I think that taking them together, I think they synergistically work better. If, if, if, if your goal is to burn fat, 29:58 Speaker 1: if in fact your goal is to just like pack on a bunch of muscle, I'd probably leave the BAM-fifteen out of it. 30:05 Speaker 1: Okay? You don't want all this extra calorie burn that's doing you no good other than just burning calories. You know? Assuming you eat healthy, you want all that protein, right, to get onto your muscles. 30:19 Speaker 1: Which a high majority of people are going to want to burn calories. Mean, if you're looking to bulk, then there you go. It's a little bit outside of But if you're looking like probably most people to burn calories burn fat, 30:30 Speaker 1: then run them both. Yeah, and they don't offset each other. It would seem like, you know, some descriptions say SLU-0.0 is gonna make your mitochondria 30:38 Speaker 1: be more efficient and BAM-fifteen is gonna make it less efficient. So why the hell am I taking them together? 30:44 Speaker 1: If they're counteracting each other, that's not really the case. They are working upstream and downstream and not at the same time and slightly different. So I'd take them I would take them together. 30:54 Speaker 0: 50 30:56 Speaker 0: year old active female, new to peptides and loving them, started Retta and CJC Ipah 6 weeks ago. Feeling amazing, lost 10 pounds, good for you. Don't really need to lose more weight, but want to retain muscle and energy. 31:10 Speaker 0: Looking for something else to add for anti aging 31:13 Speaker 0: and overall well-being. 31:15 Speaker 0: I really enjoy learning more about peptides and found your podcast. You guys keep it real and have great advice. Appreciate you. I mean, I can answer this for both of us, just know, Will. 31:26 Speaker 0: NAD plus for you, it's gonna be great. Did you say it? Oh yeah, your age, 57, absolutely. You should definitely add in some NAD plus I mean, 31:35 Speaker 0: this is a loaded 1. You can add like 1 IU of HGH. 31:39 Speaker 0: I'm a big fan of HGH. 31:41 Speaker 0: There's a reason why in particular most movie stars take HGH and NAD because they're freaking awesome. 31:49 Speaker 0: You would have different opinions and some people are so worried about cancer and all that stuff. That's high doses for the most part, like men who are people 31:57 Speaker 0: that are going to abuse the HGH, I think ran 32:02 Speaker 0: at low dose, which is for 1 IU for a woman and 2 IU for men, you can run them for a very long time with very little 32:09 Speaker 0: risk to that. So if you're looking to add, I would add that if you can, 1 IU of the HGH and the NAD, those 2 together 32:17 Speaker 0: would be amazing. 32:19 Speaker 1: Yep, he's right. So I won't even touch that NAD. NAD, for sure, that's the 1st thing that pops in my head. Run that alongside. 32:26 Speaker 1: If you're ready to continue to lift weights and eat a good amount of protein, I would run like 6 weeks of IGF-1LR-three. 32:33 Speaker 1: That'll help you add some muscle. And by the way, know you say you're not losing burn any, like losing more fat per se, but beauty is you need to burn It's always hard just to burn that last little bit of fat, right? And usually the answer is, sorry, you gotta add a little bit of muscle, then that little fat's gonna come off. 32:51 Speaker 1: So 32:52 Speaker 1: I'd add IGF-1L-three 32:54 Speaker 1: will really help build muscle. Okay? But do it right, work out hard while you're doing it, and eat correctly along with it. We did a video on that, maybe you can refer to that 1, 33:02 Speaker 1: on how to do it correctly. 33:05 Speaker 1: And plus everything else he said. 33:08 Speaker 0: Baboons. 33:09 Speaker 1: Am I up or are you up? I think I am, maybe. So I was put on birth control in 2019 for ovarian cysts, in particular endometriosis. 33:19 Speaker 1: Have recently done a deep dive with my blood work and have decided to come off of birth control. I'm 37 years old and lift weights 4 days a week. 33:28 Speaker 1: Is there a peptide that I can add in that may help with the cysts or keep them reduced in size or even get rid of them altogether? I know inflammation is the key. 33:39 Speaker 1: Well, 1st of all, good for you doing a deep dive and not just like blindly trusting. 33:43 Speaker 1: You know? 33:44 Speaker 1: I'm just going, alright, just take whatever you wanna give me. Like, good shit. Take some damn responsibility 33:49 Speaker 1: for your life and your body. 33:52 Speaker 1: 2nd of all, I have no I do not have any answer for 33:57 Speaker 1: something specific to get rid or lower cysts. I can't answer that. I can't answer inflammation, 34:03 Speaker 1: though. 34:04 Speaker 1: BPC-157, 34:06 Speaker 1: KPV, 34:07 Speaker 1: and Thymosin Alpha. 34:09 Speaker 1: My. Those are my top inflammation 34:12 Speaker 1: reducers. 34:13 Speaker 0: Yep. 34:14 Speaker 0: Thymosin Alpha is the big 34:16 Speaker 0: dog when it comes to inflammation. And 34:18 Speaker 0: you should be taking that anyway for immunity, so you should be blasting at Thymosin Alpha for sure. 34:24 Speaker 0: Well said, good answer. All right. All right, folks, the last question. 34:28 Speaker 0: What's up warriors? 34:30 Speaker 0: I just bought some SLU-PP-three 34:31 Speaker 0: 32 34:33 Speaker 0: sublingual from an amazing company. I should have waited a week to get BAM-fifteen version. My question is, what's the recommendations on dosage of SLUEP p p 3 3 2? My current morning stack 34:45 Speaker 0: is Monday through Friday, MOTS c and NAD, 34:49 Speaker 0: 1 mg of each. 34:51 Speaker 0: Retta 3 34:52 Speaker 0: Retta 3 0, 3 days a week. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 1 mg. Testosterone, 34:57 Speaker 0: sipping 8, 200 mg, 34:59 Speaker 0: 50 units, Tuesday and Friday. 35:02 Speaker 0: Night stack is GHKCu, 35:04 Speaker 0: 1 mg. BPC, 1 5 7 TB mix, 1 mg. Tesamorelin, 35:08 Speaker 0: 1 mg. Ipamorelin, 35:10 Speaker 0: 1 mg. DSIP 10 units Monday through Friday. This guys doing it. 35:15 Speaker 0: Thanks for the information on your last q and a. I added the DSIP and 35:20 Speaker 0: it works well for me. Please let me know how you would introduce the SLU 35:25 Speaker 0: if this was your stack. I'm currently extremely happy with my physique. 35:29 Speaker 0: My body fat is 12.9, 35:31 Speaker 0: weight 1 85 35:33 Speaker 0: 10, I'm jacked. Thank you for your time and answer. 35:37 Speaker 0: Well, you're running a good stack, dude. 35:40 Speaker 1: You want to run it? Yeah, sure. I'll add in, but- 35:44 Speaker 0: You can run very high doses of the SLU. I mean, that's been coming out more and more and more. 35:52 Speaker 0: Me, 35:53 Speaker 0: I will generally 35:55 Speaker 0: run 35:56 Speaker 0: 1 mg in the morning, 35:58 Speaker 0: sometimes 1 mg midday, 36:00 Speaker 0: and sometimes 36:01 Speaker 0: 1 mg in later in the day. Now I've ran more than that, so I don't 36:06 Speaker 0: stay on a strict schedule for the SLU in particular. 36:10 Speaker 0: They're easy access because they're so like, when they're sitting there, I'm like, Oh, I'll just take 1. Shoot, man, I'm gonna just take 1 right now, actually. But 36:18 Speaker 0: that's 36:19 Speaker 0: what I do. I mean, 36:20 Speaker 0: I think it's such an amazing peptide, but that's what I would recommend. The low case, I would say 1 mg in the morning, 1 mg at night. If you wanna boost it, what you take a lot of peptides, so you're pretty seasoned. I mean, you could take 36:32 Speaker 0: 2 mgs in the morning, 2 mgs at night, That might work well for you, but, play around with it, man, but you can do a lot of SLU. 36:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. 36:39 Speaker 1: I bet you are jacked. Like, what you're taking really looks like 36:44 Speaker 1: looks familiar. 36:45 Speaker 1: I think everything you're taking is awesome. It's pretty much what I'm taking and 36:50 Speaker 1: good for you. Yeah. You 36:53 Speaker 1: so I would be thankful maybe, actually, that you just got the SLU-3P. Like, now you get an opportunity to just see what the hell that does, right, instead of having to bam, SLU-3P blend. 37:02 Speaker 1: Right? Great. 37:05 Speaker 1: Count yourself lucky. You're just using 37:07 Speaker 1: sloop, and it's awesome. I would say that you're a grown you're a man. Obviously, you're 37:13 Speaker 1: used to taking supplements. You will handle a decent amount of sloop very well, 37:17 Speaker 1: and it'll do great wonders for you. I would say, hey, look, I would shit. I'd start off with 37:23 Speaker 1: 1 mg, which is 1000 micrograms, 37:26 Speaker 1: 3 times a day, 37:28 Speaker 1: morning, afternoon, night. 37:30 Speaker 1: Okay? I think that you can handle it. You'll be just fine even up to maybe 5000 micrograms a day. 37:36 Speaker 1: That's 37:38 Speaker 1: actually that's okay. 37:40 Speaker 1: You're really gonna start feeling the benefit. 37:43 Speaker 1: So based on what you're taking, dude, you can handle it, and I would that's what I would try. And I'd give that a good, like, month, maybe until you until you reach for the BAM, and now you'll have some independent research 37:54 Speaker 1: and see what you really like. See how that BAM affects you too when you do add it in. Do you feel different? And you probably wanna keep the problem is, I think that with most of the BAM the BAM 38:06 Speaker 1: and SLU-3P mixtures, you don't wanna go too high on the BAM. And so my suggestion is when you do decide to have the BAM in, you probably want your bottle pure SLUPS 38:14 Speaker 1: and then your mixes because you're gonna wanna take more SLU-3P. Right? You're wanna take maybe 2 of these a day and then another 1 of these at the same time. 38:21 Speaker 1: That makes sense. So- 38:23 Speaker 0: Yeah, You got them both. 38:26 Speaker 1: I do that. That. I do that. But, dude, yeah, keep kicking ass. You're living your best lifelike. Yeah. And keep trying trying stuff. 38:35 Speaker 0: Dude, well, how cool is that, though, that, like, you know, that like, like I said, like, just the people are just obviously learning and growing just like us. That's how we started doing it. I told you, I got into peptides 6 years ago because Will said, Take this for your elbow, BPC-one hundred 57. What the hell is that? A peptide, what is that? Never heard. 38:52 Speaker 0: And you know what mean? I tried it, I was like, Holy shit, that worked really well. You know what I mean? And that's how it starts for a lot of people, man. Yep. You know? It starts really well. Most 39:02 Speaker 0: people probably start with the injury ones or the GLP ones for sure. 39:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's good to hear that everybody is also working out and eating right on 39:11 Speaker 1: the side. Right. 39:14 Speaker 1: Come on, man. 39:15 Speaker 1: You have 39:17 Speaker 1: You just to- Nice need to work too, right? Hell yeah. So 39:21 Speaker 1: good job, 39:22 Speaker 1: everybody. We appreciate it and it's 39:27 Speaker 1: heartwarming that everybody is seeing results and doing things right and trying some stuff out and, yeah, getting benefits. 39:34 Speaker 0: Hell yeah, man. Good stuff. Well, cool. Well, hope everybody enjoyed the show. 39:39 Speaker 0: Catch you on the next round. Take care. 39:42 Speaker 1: See you.