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0:13Speaker 0I'm your host, JD Denham, across the way. Like always, my buddy and co host, Mr. William T. Haas. What's up, dude? What's up, man? It's good, man. I woke up and
0:25Speaker 0I was hearing rain and I was like, dude, it didn't rain again after I just washed my truck. Why does that happen every time? Like it happened last week. I was like, dude, I was so frustrated, man. I know. What a bummer. I know. Well, I've been doing construction all morning and
0:45Speaker 1Should we say the name of the gym? Why not? Yeah. What's it called? LIV Alpha something. LIV Alpha. LIV Alpha. I love it. Alex was the only person in there
0:54Speaker 0in the morning. It's usually me and Alex in there. There's a couple of people once in a while, but- It was pretty cool. State of the art shit, man. I love it. I love that gym. Love it. Including a Ferrari and an Audi.
1:06Speaker 0Yeah, sitting in the middle of the gym. I wonder if they rent those and just put them there. I asked because I was curious. I was like, why are the cars
1:22Speaker 0fresh for his son, I guess, so he doesn't want it to be driven, so they just put it in the gym. I
1:28Speaker 1wish I had a dad that would buy me a Ferrari and keep it on ice for me. It's a rough life, man. I guess somebody has to live it. Might as well be them. Might as well. I think are better off not living that I'll way,
1:42Speaker 0But we are welcome back, my friends. We are excited to do this episode. Q and A is always probably 1 of our funnest episodes because we get to tap into you guys. We get to hear some questions from you guys and just
1:56Speaker 0things are progressing, the questions that are going out with people. So we enjoy this 1. We enjoy this 1. So we're going to dig right into it and get to the jugular because I know that's what you came here for anyway. I will take number 1. I'm leaving my glasses on today because I can't read without them. I try my best, but I'm just keeping them on today so I can read. Here we go. Question number 1, is there a peptide stack you would recommend for bulk?
2:32Speaker 0is my waist, and I like to keep losing these love handles while getting my strength back from being on this cut.
3:00Speaker 0I don't know how much you have to burn, so that will be contingent upon that. You don't also tell
3:24Speaker 0And I don't think even we talk about it as much as we probably should because we love peptides as a peptide podcast.
3:30Speaker 0But diet plays a huge, huge, huge role. So, you know, what's your diet like? You know, how are you eating? Are you still eating like shit? Are you eating clean? That's going to play a big role. And, you know, and that for some people,
3:48Speaker 0doesn't fit with the same diet. I'm a high fat, high protein guy. But I will tell you that I have tried every diet you can probably think of, and I'm pretty disciplined. When I do it, I do it fairly well. My sweet spot is high fat, high protein,
4:01Speaker 0but even I change it up a bit. So let's talk a little bit about that, what your diet likes, so get your diet in line.
4:10Speaker 0you mentioned that. I'm not the biggest fan of Sermorelin anyway, so I think that that's a good idea to take that out.
4:19Speaker 0Ipamorelin, I think that's a great mix, man. I think you're on the right path. You're not gonna lose all the weight overnight.
4:27Speaker 0and just keep doing what you're doing. Make sure you're hitting the gym, make sure your diet is right. But I think where you're at, you're on the right path right now with what you got right there. So I
4:44Speaker 1It's gonna be hard. Like, Retta is great and actually allows you to eat some food, allows a little bit of hunger to come back. It just makes you get feel full faster, but it's pretty hard to bulk while taking Retta because, dude, I mean, they get like you said,
5:16Speaker 1that stuff's awesome. I don't know if you're taking any tests, but just a little slight increase of your test if you're taking TOT, right? Watch
5:46Speaker 1Like guys, everybody needs to burn the last little bit of fat, right, is the hardest part. And your metabolism needs to be fast. You need to have muscle. You need have a good amount of muscle if you wanna burn off that last little bit of stubborn belly fat. So I always tell people when they plateau,
6:14Speaker 0were very spot on, dude. Let's like, let's sit there for a 2nd because you don't mention if you're on TRT, if you're not on TRT
6:33Speaker 0If you're not, you definitely want to get your blood work done and see where you're at because that could be the problem in itself. Yeah.
6:47Speaker 1Kicking ass. Slow and steady, baby. Slow and steady. It'll force more food into you. I know the Retta and like the Retta is awesome even if
6:56Speaker 1can bulk. You just need to kind of force feed some food in you. More protein. Try adding a couple protein shakes. Know, we need real food. I'm not telling anybody you should live on protein shakes, but you need real, real food. But adding a couple in, especially right before you go to sleep,
7:36Speaker 1I go to the gym 3 days a week, lifting and hike 3 days. What pipette stack would you recommend? There are just so many and not sure what would have the greatest results.
7:46Speaker 1Good, mean, good on you. Good job. I would you you lost 30 pounds already and you're losing another 60. Holy shit. Thirty's awesome and, you know, it's gonna get harder.
7:57Speaker 1Right? The next 30 will be harder than the 1st 30 and the last 30 will be harder than the 1st 2.
8:12Speaker 1Together. Would do those. Now you go to the gym 3 days a week lifting, good for you. Start to I would
8:18Speaker 1go to the gym maybe a little bit more, keep lifting. That's how you're gonna burn the most fat, right? Lifting weights, getting your muscles sore. And make sure when you are lifting, your muscles are sore.
8:47Speaker 1crash diet, right, in a very low calorie deficit. I would say, hey, I don't know, I'd probably switch to Retta, and you're gonna need to get your metabolism up a little bit by getting used to eating a little bit more food.
9:01Speaker 1And that boosts your metabolism, that'll boost your muscle up, and then the fat will now start to come off
9:12Speaker 0generally kind of rule of thumb that I have has worked for me with kind of given some advice from friends that were kind of in this situation is generally speaking, if someone needs to lose more than 30 pounds, I generally keep them on terzepatide just because a lot of those people seem to have some issues with food because they're trying to lose a lot of weight. So I would just kind of might have a different answer than well on this 1 is to keep the tirzepatide. We need to know what your dosage, maybe go up a little bit on it.
9:38Speaker 0I would probably keep that for a bit. And then as you lose more weight, slowly add in the
9:47Speaker 0So that's kind of my thing. You're right on course. I think AOD, 5Amino and SLU are fantastic.
9:59Speaker 0so you're taking that already. Would add on that you're doing great. Yeah, kind of similar to the last guy is you need to make sure your diet is prime.
10:10Speaker 0and you just need to stay at it and do not stop. You will achieve your goal if you do not stop. Everybody stops. Just be that 3%, the do not stop
10:19Speaker 0Girl, just keep at it. You're gonna do it. Just know just write it down and make it be. Just do not stop. You will achieve your goal, I promise. You will. Like, it's so funny. You see people like the dominoes are starting to fall.
10:32Speaker 1I always see people so whether it's they're trying to gain weight, gain muscle, or lose weight, right, in the 1st maybe couple weeks, oh, nothing's happening. 1st month, maybe nothing's happening. Right? And then I'll just say, yo, just
10:43Speaker 1stick with the game plan. Right? Just process, process, process. Then your body starts to understand what you're really trying to do to it, and the dominoes start falling. Hell yeah. And then it's hard to get the ball to stop rolling. Right? People are like, damn. Now I'm losing too much weight. Right? So 1st of all, keep your dang momentum.
11:28Speaker 0I've heard that if cancer runs in your family, HGH will speed up the process of the cancer cells growing if you take HGH.
11:46Speaker 0Great question. I'm surprised it hasn't come up more often. You want me to start? What do you got? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
12:00Speaker 0I don't think people need to be as worried as what's out there. If cancer grow is in your family, that would be a more concern.
12:11Speaker 0I am always going to air on the side a little bit more on the caution side, man. I just think there's other peptides that you can put in place that might just keep your mind lit, not stressing on it, you know? So that's where I'm gonna air on is just the side of caution.
12:33Speaker 0I've advised him to not take it, man. I just do not think you should risk it. So, you know, that's gonna be my answer, man. I'm gonna say, ARA-1L, the side of caution, there's other peptides that do so much good things, almost equal to HGH. So that's what I would say, brother. There's other ones, man. There's fat burners out there. Just run those, man. Yeah, I would agree. I'd agree. Let's say on the side of caution, like your father just died of this. Okay?
13:28Speaker 1Great answer. GH isn't like the this miracle miracle miracle that people thought think it is. Right? It's a long term play. You almost start to really understand
13:48Speaker 1it's not like, oh, it's pointless to do anything now because I can't do that. It's like the 1 great thing that would work. Nope. There's a ton of other things that work.
13:56Speaker 0Plus, if you're taking it, let's say you take it, let's play this out. Let's say you take your HGH, you're probably gonna it's probably gonna be a mind F, right? You're probably gonna be tripping on it anyway. It's gonna be
14:06Speaker 0so Will just made a great point. I loved your answer. I thought that was amazing. Why don't you try fasting, man? I'm going to talk about fasting because I freaking love it. I fast so much, man. I do 72 hour fasts once 0.25.
14:17Speaker 0I fast almost always 5 days a week. I'll do a 24 hour fast every day. I fell in love with it. I've done it a long time. But when you get around the 16 hour mark of a fast,
14:38Speaker 0go old school, man. Just do a lot of fasting. Just go that route. Take some other peptides like 5 amino, things like that. That will be fat burners, things like that. I think you're gonna be better off there, dude.
14:51Speaker 1Cool. Alright. Well, you wanna take this 1? Yeah. So I listened to another podcast, and the guy was very passionate about not mixing peptides in the same syringe. He's saying that the pH can be different, mixing can cause each peptide to react or become unstable or degraded.
15:06Speaker 1I can't imagine people would actually use individual syringes and poke several times. Thoughts?
15:16Speaker 0mean, I've done videos on it, man, and I don't think anybody 100 knows. I mean, maybe. I don't know, maybe. But I'm going disagree with it a little bit. I've done peptides for a long time and I do a lot.
15:27Speaker 0I run generally about 9. Now, I think some of the same ones in the morning at night, AOD in the morning, AOD at night, sometimes Thymosin Alpha in the morning, sometimes at night. But
15:57Speaker 0and I don't have a problem with it. I can tell you with my experience, I have no doubt in my mind that they are working.
16:04Speaker 0I think that's gonna be a matter of you and your opinion. I'm not gonna jab myself 7 times. It's not gonna happen. So I'm gonna put them all in the same bottle and then jab myself once.
16:29Speaker 1I've done that lots and so is every single person I know, and they all still work really good. Now,
16:37Speaker 1maybe, and they could be a slightly different Now, I will say, yes, there are some that do not work well together, and you can and I would just personally, I just go by the proof is in the pudding. Right? If you are loading up a different peptide, like I did this the other day, had MOTS-three, SS-thirty 1 that I do every morning, and then I and then I
17:04Speaker 1There was a bad reaction right there. So I I threw that. I squirted it out, actually, like, clogged the needle because it gelled up.
17:16Speaker 1If it's gonna make your if it's gonna make that syringe go any other color than than perfectly clear
17:26Speaker 1if it yeah, I'm not gonna stab myself a whole bunch of times. I don't think and I've been doing a
17:44Speaker 1who knows? I mean, we'd I don't know. But they see they all work just just good for me. So
17:52Speaker 0Right, man. Hope that answers your question, brother. All right, would you ever suggest stacking GLP-two
17:58Speaker 0together? Is there a benefit or just stick with 1? I love that question. That's a good question.
18:03Speaker 1Surprise it never comes up. You want to take it? Oh, sure. I mean, I think we probably have the same answer here. Okay,
18:23Speaker 1slows the food processing down in your mouths of intestines. Right? And so you eat 4 hours later, it's here instead of here. So that's why we still feel full. Now, the issue with GLP-1s
18:48Speaker 1that's not actually how the drug's supposed to work. Okay? That's a side effect of like, Damn, I don't even wanna eat anything gross. I don't wanna touch it.
19:07Speaker 1have a bunch of medicine, for lack of a better term, that counteracts that side effect completely in GLP-three.
19:12Speaker 1Okay? So it does not make you nauseous. You do not feel that, and therefore, doesn't just wipe your hunger and make you have dry mouth and not wanna come close to anything. And
19:22Speaker 1there is a benefit to that because people will need to now you can actually eat some food, right? And that's good to boost your metabolism.
19:29Speaker 1there is, for certain people, like we said, if you need to lose a lot more weight or you really do like that fact that it's really making you not eat any food, then there is a benefit to using
19:42Speaker 1That's the only benefit because they do the exact same thing except for one's a little bit bleed, does 1
19:55Speaker 0it's gonna always boil down to what are you trying to achieve, dude? Like, I don't know, like, you don't, you know, it's super vague. So like, what's your goals? Are you trying to lose a lot of weight? I don't know. That would be the base of being able to answer this, I think, in the best form.
20:15Speaker 0Most people start there. And what I have found with people that start with the GLP-two
20:22Speaker 0they think it's not working because they're not used to being hungry on a GLP-two. So when they go GLP-three,
20:28Speaker 0you are hungry. That's the beautiful part. You get to enjoy food. You just get full quicker. That's the beautiful part of it. So it's a mine F to them because
20:36Speaker 0they're thinking it's not working, which is just working better. It does. You just got to let it run its course. So on that being said,
21:00Speaker 0If you're trying to get really lean man and you have a problem with food and you want to really try to like block that food altogether
21:06Speaker 0and get the best of both worlds, maybe you can run them both together. Will and I love GLP-three. It's a freaking scientific breakthrough, dude. Like, you're generally gonna get the best benefit by just running GLP-three, dude. Yeah. And let it work. Like, it's, you know, like, let it do what it does, man. And when I say together, that doesn't mean take the regular dose of the GLP-2T,
21:29Speaker 1okay? That's not what we mean. Don't mean we're not saying double up on them, okay? It's kind of 0.5 and 0.5. Type it out, right? Bring them out.
21:37Speaker 0I think we got that 1. Yeah. All right. My question is about blends. So I'm about to reconstitute
21:51Speaker 0by micrograms, does that mean I'm getting 2 50 micrograms of beach peptide? Will is a genius with this stiff. Yes. You did, you got it. But yeah, you want to elaborate a little bit more on that, Will? Yes, sure. I guess this is how I do the math and there's probably people who are a lot better at math than me.
22:07Speaker 1Way for it You're right pretty good at dosing though, but- I mean, I guess I'll hear And
22:15Speaker 1well, 1st of all, let's just convert the original to micrograms, right? Just multiply the number by a milligram by 1000. So what you really have is 5000
22:37Speaker 1insulin syringes, you know, together, so there's they're each are 1 through 100, and they actually So show 10, 20, 30,
22:51Speaker 1Right? 10, 10, 10. 10 times 10 is 100. 10 times 10 is 100. I just say, Hey, CJC, we have 5000 micrograms.
23:26Speaker 1not like 1 of those peptides is using only 0.5 of the water. They're both being diluted equally by all
23:33Speaker 1So who knows? I don't know if that helped, but yeah, you got it. You're right. That is correct. Yep. You nailed it, man. You're good.
23:41Speaker 1You up? All right. Yeah, I'm on bed. So I recently tore something in my shoulder, has been diagnosed properly or has not been diagnosed properly
23:52Speaker 1Properly yet. Jeez. So through an MRI. So I don't know if it's my rotator cuff, my bicep tendon, or my pec muscle.
24:00Speaker 1Should I wait to start the Wolverine protocol or CLO until after the diagnosis or surgery,
24:16Speaker 1if you heal it before the diagnosis, which has so far has failed to have been made, then great, right? Job is there to heal it.
24:31Speaker 1TB- let's heal it before they can diagnose it. Then you don't need to diagnose it, I guess.
24:39Speaker 0we're going to recommend that you run it all the way up until the surgery and far beyond. I mean, I'm assuming you've heard my story about my back. I ran a lot of it up and a lot of it past. And
25:02Speaker 0157. So the Wolverine in particular, for people don't know, it's just very simply a TB-five hundred and BPC-one hundred 57. So my opinion on this coming out of a surgery is I would blast the hell out of it with the Wolverine, bro. I just love that blend. I just think it's amazing.
25:21Speaker 0Just blast it for a while and just see if it helps. I mean, if you have to end up having the surgery,
25:26Speaker 0it's to do good for it anyway, and you're going to heal a lot quicker. And then after your surgery, I would recommend high doses. Maybe you can go back and listen to 1 of our previous podcasts where I talked about how much I took. I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing of my back surgery,
25:42Speaker 1cut it down to probably like 0.333 of what it would have been. No doubt. So there you go, man. Run it. Yeah, I would agree. I would do the Wolverine, you know, BPC, especially, it's a tendon issue, right? BPC
26:11Speaker 1thing about healing injuries, right, I've been injured a lot. I've had 15 plus surgeries. You
26:21Speaker 1As it starts healing, this is how pain how injuries work, you're gonna start feeling that the range
26:46Speaker 1Alright, man. I'm lot of Thanks, Warriors. 1st things 1st, I wanna give you guys thank you for giving your input and your podcast. I have been was on GLP-two and transitioned to GLP-three for 2 weeks. I was running both at the same time doing a transition.
27:05Speaker 1I'm hungry. There you go. I'm a blue collar worker and a gym rat, so I definitely burned 3,000 calories in a day. GLP-two
27:35Speaker 1and was like, this doesn't work, right, because I have a little bit of appetite. But continued on and was like, Damn, I'm eating and I'm getting even more shredded. Right? And this is exactly what we have been talking about in some of the previous questions. Right?
27:54Speaker 1Following up question, should I try Methylene Blue and stack all 3 together? Once again, thank you, can't wait for our Discord channel. Sweet. So Good. Good job. Cool. I guess I
28:30Speaker 1a tablet, okay? Sublingual better, but an oral tablet, think, is better than the injectable.
29:02Speaker 1right? Banf-fifteen is almost making your body less efficient, and therefore you burn a whole bunch more calories doing the same thing, and so you lose weight.
29:17Speaker 1explanation for this, but it does not make you The problem with DNP is just massive overheating, and that could be fatal
29:24Speaker 1at times. So BAM-fifteen does the same thing except for without that problem, which is awesome. But still,
29:43Speaker 1take it on top of your skin transdermally and just let it soak in. Some people do that. It'll stain your skin, then you don't know how much you can get dangerous amounts of it.
30:25Speaker 1Scared me away a little bit, but as I've talked to more and more people and talked to more people who've been using it and watched them, I think there's a safe way to use it. Right? Don't be dumb.
30:41Speaker 1restrict if you're looking for big pumps in the gym, and Methylene Blue is not the answer.
30:46Speaker 1Its goal is to kind of restrict that. It's given to shock patients when they're shocked and their blood vessels are opening up and too much blood is flowing and they're getting restricted in different places. So it's counteracting that effect. It goes against what you're trying to do because the SLU is going to burn fat. The BAM has been known to increase strength. So those 2 together are rad.
31:05Speaker 0I would take out the Methylene Blue, but SLU-1.2 and the BAM, go for it, man. That would go perfect with you if you're shredded, run it. Yeah.
31:16Speaker 0All right. Hey, guys. Love your podcast. Thank you. Thanks for all you do. I'm a 50 year old male. Although I have no history of cancer, I've recently had a colonoscopy and several polyps removed. Because of this, I've been avoiding peptides like TB-five 100
31:31Speaker 0that can potentially grow tumors. However, there are certain peptides I would really benefit from, such as Glow,
31:52Speaker 01st and foremost, I think 1 of the things a lot of people run-in with doctors knocked on them that a lot of them don't know a lot about peptides. We've actually talked to a lot of doctors and they just don't. Hopefully, lot of them are starting to get into it, so hopefully they will. But
32:08Speaker 0already in 1 of the previous questions. I mean, for me, man, I'll answer it 1st and Will can take it after that. I would air on the side of caution, man.
32:16Speaker 0I know we've talked about if you have not had any type of markers in the last 3 years, some people will say that it's okay to run the HGH.
32:41Speaker 0you're going to kill it on it. I would just personally take out the and like we said for the last gentleman,
32:49Speaker 0Do some old school, like organically increase your HGH. That stuff really does work, I'm telling you. So pull out the HGH and run some other peptides, dude. You'll do well. Yep. And
33:17Speaker 1Yeah. And I know, dude, some doctors are like uber ultra ultra conservative, and that is kind of annoying. Right? I had a little, like, back problem. My doctor goes, well, just don't lift weights ever again.
33:37Speaker 1You're talking Chinese doc. You're talking Chinese. What are It's just not a helpful answer. You know what I mean? Because I'm obviously not gonna do it. So like maybe go find another doctor that can
33:47Speaker 1like an educated opinion instead of just saying, You're better off being in a bubble. Okay? Just don't do that and you're safe. Right? Don't do anything, you're safe. That's not health.
33:58Speaker 0Well, 1 of the things that I had run across with a lot of people when I was kind of doing a lot of coaching on fitness and stuff, and they would talk about doctors on certain things, on cholesterol and certain things and like
34:09Speaker 0statins and all that stuff came across my plate quite often, I would ask them, Well, is your doctor in shape?
34:15Speaker 0A lot of them would say no. I said, Why are listening to him then? Why don't you do it, doc? Like, why are you not in shape? Like, if you want me to not do that, why are you not in shape? Like,
34:23Speaker 0if you're getting your health advice from a doctor that's not in shape, you might want to find a different doctor. Yeah.
34:38Speaker 1There you go. And if they tell you to eat if they tell you 40 g of protein a day is terrible because you're gonna have protein poisoning,
35:08Speaker 1Today, I'm down to 2 50. That's very awesome. Lost 100 pounds. Good job. Hard work and a little bit of help. Love it. While on which a little bit of help is perfectly acceptable.
35:38Speaker 1then recently added Ipamorelin, MOTS-1C, and AOD, and Wolverine Blend Ultimate. Cool. BTMK,
36:09Speaker 1Ipah to Tessa Ipah to work off the stubborn belly fat. Recommendations for starting dosage,
36:35Speaker 15 mgs a day. Okay. Greatly appreciate everything you do. Thank you for the advice. PS, I'd love to hear an episode on you your individual battle rhythms.
36:44Speaker 1When you administer peptides in relation to training schedules and meals and any other supplements you add like creatine or BCRS.
36:58Speaker 0Well, 1st and foremost, dude, you've lost 100 pounds, dude. You should pat yourself on the back, dude. Standing ovation, that is not easy to do. So good on you, man.
37:10Speaker 0Not at all. I mean, it helps kind of light a fire under the fat. So good on you when it comes to that. And you've obviously been listening, man. I mean, I think that you
37:19Speaker 0want to move from tirzepatide to the Retta. We think that that's a better compound, hands down. So good on that. Get rid of the Sermorelin and the Ipah and transfer over to the Tesa Ipah. Perfect. Do that. We're better fans of that as well. So good on you on that as well. Tirzepatide,
37:46Speaker 1that's 2.5 mg per that's per injection, right? So that's 7.5 mg. 7.5. So it's getting up there in regards That's about midway through. Low dose, starting dose should be 2.5, max dose 15 mg.
37:58Speaker 17.5 is pretty good. You're a big male though. I've seen big males go up to 10 or if you're our friend, go to 15 and be like, don't feel anything.
38:06Speaker 0Yeah. You guys seem to have a problem too, where you need to do a little bit more. We've seen that for sure.
38:12Speaker 0I would say keep the Tirzepatide for a little bit and let's slowly add in some Retatrutide
38:20Speaker 0Right? Because you're going to want to surely because the Tirzepatide, you still have I don't know how much weight you want to lose,
38:27Speaker 0but we want to kind of keep the Tirzepatide for the 1st week at the 25 units, how you're doing it. I would say start with the Retta, maybe 10 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and start to slowly
38:42Speaker 0and fully get on to the Retta. That might take you about a month. I think you could transition into about a month in Retta
39:05Speaker 0You might even, you said you put an AOD, so you got AOD, so you're running that. AOD is amazing with Tesla, Ipah. Those 2, in my opinion, are just
39:14Speaker 0amazing. So you're doing great on that, brother. And like we've said numerous times is
39:19Speaker 0slow and steady, man. Slow and steady. You are going to get there. Just keep doing what you're doing. Just keep doing what you're doing. We'll make some small changes, as we just said.
39:37Speaker 0I talk a lot about sobriety. I talk a lot about whatever I wanna talk about, men being men and all kinds of stuff. And I actually have had Will on my podcast for that exact reason so that people could get to know him. I know him well.
39:51Speaker 0So, you know, we do have an episode where I interviewed him and we told a little bit about like the genesis of us coming together and kind of doing what we're doing now. So it's called the iron perspective.
40:03Speaker 0You can hit me up on DM if you want me to actually send it to you. So we have done that. In regards to
40:14Speaker 0It sounds to me like you haven't seen some of my Instagram stuff. I do a lot of fasting.
40:23Speaker 1What else? Did I answer all that? There's kind of a lot going on in there. When do we administer peptides in relations to training? There was just requests on the other ones. I mean, the last part was just kind of, Hey, he'd love to hear episodes and like, you would like to hear us maybe talk in detail about
40:42Speaker 0Creatine for sure. I'm a creatine HCL guy. Got it right here. I don't take monohydrate.
40:47Speaker 0My experience with monohydrate is it bloats me a lot, and I don't like to feel bloated.
40:56Speaker 0so I think everybody should take creatine. It is amazing. So yeah, you should That's another thing that I take.
41:08Speaker 1the fact that you're a D1 athlete and sorry to those who aren't, like, the people who just have an athletic body
41:13Speaker 1tend to do very well with all of this stuff. Yeah. It really didn't surprise me. You put a little bit of hard work in, just do the right things, and and and your body just works how it's how you want it to work. So good for you, use that for your Yeah, and now you're 40, right? Do all this stuff now, man. It's gonna get harder in 10 years,
41:43Speaker 1You should He's on. Yeah. Boom. There you go. So you're like Start it. Awesome. Good for you for losing a 100 pounds without being on that. I would switch to the Tessa Ipah. It's you said Sermorelin, you were doing 5 mg to 5000
41:56Speaker 1micrograms. Seems really high, but okay. If you weren't retaining here's the biggest issue is too high
42:03Speaker 1of the HCG-8s secretagogues, you need to see some water retention. Right? Yeah. You will look bloated.
42:16Speaker 1Now I would I would drop Sermorelin. Would switch to Tesaipa, and I would do it 7 days a week before bed, fasted,
43:01Speaker 1I don't know, man. Yeah. Diet, you didn't talk about your Some other things, dude, try, I would try to sloop
43:13Speaker 1Seems like you're doing awesome though. Keep going. I think I'm great. You're trying 1 thing or another, you would probably benefit. The fact that you've been carrying that much weight and you're a former D1 athlete,
43:53Speaker 1basically, like the only actual over the counter workout supplement that actually works for gaining muscle.
44:04Speaker 1I said this, yes, last time. We we we they're not gonna help you recover. They are just for intra workout so your body doesn't go catabolic. So your body, instead of burning your own muscle,
44:13Speaker 1it burns the BCAAs off so you get to keep you can train longer essentially and not lose
44:19Speaker 1muscle. Your body won't start eating in your muscle. So keep going. Ask us another question as you've progressed a little bit with these new add ons.
44:31Speaker 0All right. Last question, guys, and it is a long 1, so bear with me here. All right. So hello, thank you for sharing information, helping others.
44:41Speaker 0I've always been pretty active. I've been logging my food and tracking my macros for 4 solid years now. I strength train 4 to 5 times a week and get average of 10 ks steps per day. My sleep is a priority and I'm constantly on timing and duration. I feel like I have to be 100% on my game
45:05Speaker 0I've been tracking progress with InBody scans, and I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle,
45:19Speaker 0muscle loss with fat loss. I do have visibility at visible abs, but carry extra weight in my legs. I'm wanting to look lean,
46:00Speaker 0What would you suggest I try? I assume I stay on Retta longer term, yes. Looking for what to try next to shred off stubborn body fat to promote lean muscle gain, trying to keep costs in check
46:13Speaker 0while making progress. I know I have a lot. Any advice is great. Appreciated. Great question. Long question, but yeah, well, why don't you pick up on that? Okay. Yeah.
46:26Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, 1st of all, you're kicking ass. Keep going, dude. You will and you've made a lot of progress. I'm struggling to see what the problem is, if you can see your abs.
46:35Speaker 1You have but I think you did say, Hey, the problem is you have a little bit of extra weight in your legs that you're not liking. Okay?
46:48Speaker 1glaring thing that pops out to me is my guess is like, hey, you can only lose a little bit of weight if you're on a severe
47:03Speaker 1small frequent meals. K? High protein. Also shock the hell out of your body, and JD, you can talk about that, like some fasting, even carnivore, those are some drastic different diet plans, but I would
47:14Speaker 1lots of people don't want to lose their weight. To get you out of that, you need to shock your body. We also need to boost your get your muscle up, as you said, right? Anytime you lose weight, it's muscle and you can't really gain good muscle. So
47:26Speaker 1eat small, frequent, healthy meals, okay? The problem is when you start doing that, you're not gonna lose weight, right? In fact, you might gain a little bit of weight.
47:35Speaker 1Then people do that and go, Oh, screw this. I'm going back to just cutting calories, right? And that is just leading you to yet another plateau.
47:59Speaker 1Body will now your metabolism will catch up to the foods you're eating, right? You'll gain a little bit of muscle. Your body will understand what it's doing. Then it will be able to actually burn fat off and not just body weight indiscriminately.
48:16Speaker 1I would definitely go to the Retta. The Retta's gonna help you because you'll be able to eat some more food, right, versus the
48:21Speaker 1Tirz. And I don't know if you said you were doing that, but keeping the Reti, that's correct.
48:54Speaker 1puts you in a state of ketosis, not being in a state of ketosis, right, so your body decides to burn fat over sugar.
49:03Speaker 1Yeah, stay the course. Here's the other fact is, sorry, some people are just genetically, like, you're losing weight and like you just have some extra weight in your legs,
49:12Speaker 1that's just genetically how you're made. And it might come a point where I actually have some same girlfriends who did like the cool sculpting. I'm not gonna say they're gonna do plastic surgery, but, hey, you might want to, I don't know, try that. It's not a usual answer. I think you should try everything else 1st. But to get some of that fat
49:29Speaker 1frozen, they do a bunch of cardio after over the next couple weeks and it really gets rid of it. I've seen some people have success with that.
49:36Speaker 0Yeah, what I've got is that you are obviously disciplined. I'm extremely disciplined. Sometimes it can be a little bit of a double edged sword, and here's what I mean by that. I'm so disciplined that sometimes, like, I stay stuck in my way so much that if I, Oh, no, I don't want any carbs. I'm high fat, high protein. So if I, like, eat carbs, I almost feel like guilty. You know what I mean? It's like an OCD type deal. So maybe you're a little bit like me.
50:03Speaker 0a lot of people, when they do that, they don't see instant results, they jump ship quickly and resort back to what they did. That's just human So
50:13Speaker 0Will just gave you eating small meals every 2 hours. Everybody's heard of that. There's so many different diets. I would imagine you've tried some, but everybody's
50:35Speaker 0Fasting is great. You don't need to fast as much as me, but like maybe just cut out breakfast and fast for a bit,
50:41Speaker 0and then do a high fat diet, maybe a month. Maybe if you feel great, which you will, if you convert to running on fat, you're gonna feel really good.
50:49Speaker 0And maybe then you go for 2. Just see how you feel. Try either Will's Way 1st and my way 2nd, or just see how you feel, but you're going to shock your system either way.
51:22Speaker 0I had my wife on, had, I just took her off, but she was on AOD in the morning and she was on Tesamorelin
51:40Speaker 0So maybe try that. As to your question in regards to should you add the MOTS-se now or wait, add it in. MOTS-3s great. I love it. You might even wanna add in, depending on your pocketbook, SS-thirty 1 because Will and I speak of it often. MOTS-seven and SS-thirty 1 almost should be ran together to get the ultimate from them.
52:07Speaker 0think that I answered that. Did I answer that? Yeah, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet. Switch up your diet. Don't get stuck on, in the OCD like I get on sometimes. Throw a big curveball at your system and shock the hell out of it. It will
52:21Speaker 0jolt your system and your body won't be used to it. That's the same thing if you work out the same way every day, your body's going get used to it. You got to shock the hell out of your system then and you're gonna see growth. Same thing with diet, man. You gotta shock the hell out of it. So just change your diet, I bet you you'll see radical improvements.
52:44Speaker 0Yeah, man. Cold plunges, just shock the hell out your system however you choose. I think either way, if you even do it like Will, like I said,
53:00Speaker 1Either way, try something different. You'll see results, I'm almost certain. And enjoy the damn process, you know? It's fun to take all these experiments. Just
53:08Speaker 1enjoy it, take a look and see what it does. Like, you will find it. The fact of your work ethic, like,
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