Peptide Q&A #11 – Bulking Stacks, Women’s Fat-Loss Fixes Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-11-bulking-stacks-women-s-fat-loss-fixes/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: What's up, my friends? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. 0:13 Speaker 0: I'm your host, JD Denham, across the way. Like always, my buddy and co host, Mr. William T. Haas. What's up, dude? What's up, man? It's good, man. I woke up and 0:25 Speaker 0: I was hearing rain and I was like, dude, it didn't rain again after I just washed my truck. Why does that happen every time? Like it happened last week. I was like, dude, I was so frustrated, man. I know. What a bummer. I know. Well, I've been doing construction all morning and 0:41 Speaker 1: we started going to this new gym that's really close by. 0:45 Speaker 1: Should we say the name of the gym? Why not? Yeah. What's it called? LIV Alpha something. LIV Alpha. LIV Alpha. I love it. Alex was the only person in there 0:54 Speaker 0: in the morning. It's usually me and Alex in there. There's a couple of people once in a while, but- It was pretty cool. State of the art shit, man. I love it. I love that gym. Love it. Including a Ferrari and an Audi. 1:05 Speaker 0: Yeah. 1:06 Speaker 0: Yeah, sitting in the middle of the gym. I wonder if they rent those and just put them there. I asked because I was curious. I was like, why are the cars 1:15 Speaker 0: Ferrari sitting in the gym? I'm just curious. And 1 1:18 Speaker 0: of the guys that was there just told me that they're keeping them 1:22 Speaker 0: fresh for his son, I guess, so he doesn't want it to be driven, so they just put it in the gym. I 1:28 Speaker 1: wish I had a dad that would buy me a Ferrari and keep it on ice for me. It's a rough life, man. I guess somebody has to live it. Might as well be them. Might as well. I think are better off not living that I'll way, 1:39 Speaker 0: stick to a truck, man. I'm a truck guy. 1:42 Speaker 0: But we are welcome back, my friends. We are excited to do this episode. Q and A is always probably 1 of our funnest episodes because we get to tap into you guys. We get to hear some questions from you guys and just 1:55 Speaker 0: see how 1:56 Speaker 0: things are progressing, the questions that are going out with people. So we enjoy this 1. We enjoy this 1. So we're going to dig right into it and get to the jugular because I know that's what you came here for anyway. I will take number 1. I'm leaving my glasses on today because I can't read without them. I try my best, but I'm just keeping them on today so I can read. Here we go. Question number 1, is there a peptide stack you would recommend for bulk? 2:20 Speaker 0: I'm currently taking Retatrutide, 2:22 Speaker 0: Tesa, Ipi, and Glow. 2:24 Speaker 0: Didn't like Sermorelin, 2:25 Speaker 0: felt like my hormones were all over the place, and sleep was terrible. 2:29 Speaker 0: The only place my body stores fat 2:32 Speaker 0: is my waist, and I like to keep losing these love handles while getting my strength back from being on this cut. 2:39 Speaker 0: I've been on Reta for about 3.5 2:41 Speaker 0: months now. Awesome. Good stuff. You want to start, Will? Want me to take it? Go 2:48 Speaker 1: ahead. Let me think for a sec. 2:50 Speaker 0: So, 2:51 Speaker 0: as everybody knows, we love Retatrutide. 2:54 Speaker 0: Good job on you. That's going to continue to burn that belly fat for sure. 3:00 Speaker 0: I don't know how much you have to burn, so that will be contingent upon that. You don't also tell 3:06 Speaker 0: us about what your dose is, that will have a play a role in it as well. 3:11 Speaker 0: And let me sit for a 2nd and 3:14 Speaker 0: talk about something I don't think we talk about enough, which is diet. 3:17 Speaker 0: I mean, 3:18 Speaker 0: diet is such the foundation 3:21 Speaker 0: of 3:22 Speaker 0: everybody, 3:22 Speaker 0: how they look. 3:24 Speaker 0: And I don't think even we talk about it as much as we probably should because we love peptides as a peptide podcast. 3:30 Speaker 0: But diet plays a huge, huge, huge role. So, you know, what's your diet like? You know, how are you eating? Are you still eating like shit? Are you eating clean? That's going to play a big role. And, you know, and that for some people, 3:43 Speaker 0: just like peptides, just like TRT, you have to find what works for you. Everybody 3:48 Speaker 0: doesn't fit with the same diet. I'm a high fat, high protein guy. But I will tell you that I have tried every diet you can probably think of, and I'm pretty disciplined. When I do it, I do it fairly well. My sweet spot is high fat, high protein, 4:01 Speaker 0: but even I change it up a bit. So let's talk a little bit about that, what your diet likes, so get your diet in line. 4:09 Speaker 0: Sermorelin, 4:10 Speaker 0: you mentioned that. I'm not the biggest fan of Sermorelin anyway, so I think that that's a good idea to take that out. 4:17 Speaker 0: And 4:18 Speaker 0: the Retatruta, 4:19 Speaker 0: Ipamorelin, I think that's a great mix, man. I think you're on the right path. You're not gonna lose all the weight overnight. 4:25 Speaker 0: Be patient 4:27 Speaker 0: and just keep doing what you're doing. Make sure you're hitting the gym, make sure your diet is right. But I think where you're at, you're on the right path right now with what you got right there. So I 4:37 Speaker 1: guess the 1st question was, hey, what's what would you recommend for a bulk? 4:44 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard. Like, Retta is great and actually allows you to eat some food, allows a little bit of hunger to come back. It just makes you get feel full faster, but it's pretty hard to bulk while taking Retta because, dude, I mean, they get like you said, 4:58 Speaker 1: my best prescription for a bulk is eat food 5:00 Speaker 1: lift heavy and hard. Right? Right. Right. So 5:05 Speaker 1: that's number 1. That's what I would say is eat food. Now MK-677 5:10 Speaker 1: will help increase your appetite your growth 5:14 Speaker 1: hormone, 5:16 Speaker 1: that stuff's awesome. I don't know if you're taking any tests, but just a little slight increase of your test if you're taking TOT, right? Watch 5:24 Speaker 1: what that does. 5:26 Speaker 1: You go from, I don't know, 203 hundred to 400 5:29 Speaker 1: mg a week, you will gain some weight. 5:35 Speaker 1: But peptides go like IGF-1LR-three 5:39 Speaker 1: is good to run-in cycle 5:42 Speaker 1: to gain some good lean muscle, which will help. 5:46 Speaker 1: Like guys, everybody needs to burn the last little bit of fat, right, is the hardest part. And your metabolism needs to be fast. You need to have muscle. You need have a good amount of muscle if you wanna burn off that last little bit of stubborn belly fat. So I always tell people when they plateau, 6:02 Speaker 1: Okay, job number 1 is let's go put some muscle in and watch that fat 6:07 Speaker 1: melt off. 6:10 Speaker 0: So, 6:11 Speaker 0: yeah. 6:12 Speaker 0: Yeah, but I think we- 6:14 Speaker 0: were very spot on, dude. Let's like, let's sit there for a 2nd because you don't mention if you're on TRT, if you're not on TRT 6:21 Speaker 0: and you have low testosterone, 6:23 Speaker 0: brother, you're gonna have a hard time with what you're trying to accomplish, 6:26 Speaker 0: straight up. You don't say your age, like honestly, 6:29 Speaker 0: truthfully so, I hope you're on testosterone replacement. 6:33 Speaker 0: If you're not, you definitely want to get your blood work done and see where you're at because that could be the problem in itself. Yeah. 6:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. 6:39 Speaker 1: So those are the things that I would do. 6:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck with just like keep kicking ass. 6:47 Speaker 1: Kicking ass. Slow and steady, baby. Slow and steady. It'll force more food into you. I know the Retta and like the Retta is awesome even if 6:54 Speaker 1: you can do it while you 6:56 Speaker 1: can bulk. You just need to kind of force feed some food in you. More protein. Try adding a couple protein shakes. Know, we need real food. I'm not telling anybody you should live on protein shakes, but you need real, real food. But adding a couple in, especially right before you go to sleep, 7:12 Speaker 1: post workout, 7:13 Speaker 1: will help. 7:14 Speaker 1: A bummer. 7:16 Speaker 1: Right, brother. Got you. I'm a 35 year old female. I've lost 30 pounds and just 7:21 Speaker 1: turs 7:22 Speaker 1: GLP-two 7:25 Speaker 1: GLP-2T, 7:26 Speaker 1: but 7:27 Speaker 1: looking to lose another 60 pounds. I just started Tesamorelin, 7:31 Speaker 1: but have also been looking into AOD, 5Amino, and SLU-. 7:36 Speaker 1: I go to the gym 3 days a week, lifting and hike 3 days. What pipette stack would you recommend? There are just so many and not sure what would have the greatest results. 7:46 Speaker 1: Good, mean, good on you. Good job. I would you you lost 30 pounds already and you're losing another 60. Holy shit. Thirty's awesome and, you know, it's gonna get harder. 7:57 Speaker 1: Right? The next 30 will be harder than the 1st 30 and the last 30 will be harder than the 1st 2. 8:03 Speaker 1: Just FYI, 8:04 Speaker 1: and that's life. 8:05 Speaker 1: But good so good for you. Yes. I would try AOD. I would try 5 Amino-1MQ, 8:10 Speaker 1: and I would try SLU- 8:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. 8:12 Speaker 1: Together. Would do those. Now you go to the gym 3 days a week lifting, good for you. Start to I would 8:18 Speaker 1: go to the gym maybe a little bit more, keep lifting. That's how you're gonna burn the most fat, right? Lifting weights, getting your muscles sore. And make sure when you are lifting, your muscles are sore. 8:28 Speaker 1: Remember, if they're sore, 8:30 Speaker 1: they're trying to rebuild. And your body's burning a ton of calories, 8:34 Speaker 1: trying to create brand new tissue out of nothing. 8:37 Speaker 1: Diet, diet, diet. Now, and I guess here is what's gonna get you GLP-2T, 8:45 Speaker 1: my guess is you've been on like a 8:47 Speaker 1: crash diet, right, in a very low calorie deficit. I would say, hey, I don't know, I'd probably switch to Retta, and you're gonna need to get your metabolism up a little bit by getting used to eating a little bit more food. 9:01 Speaker 1: And that boosts your metabolism, that'll boost your muscle up, and then the fat will now start to come off 9:06 Speaker 1: faster. 9:08 Speaker 0: Yeah, interesting. I figured you were gonna go to the Reta. I 9:12 Speaker 0: generally kind of rule of thumb that I have has worked for me with kind of given some advice from friends that were kind of in this situation is generally speaking, if someone needs to lose more than 30 pounds, I generally keep them on terzepatide just because a lot of those people seem to have some issues with food because they're trying to lose a lot of weight. So I would just kind of might have a different answer than well on this 1 is to keep the tirzepatide. We need to know what your dosage, maybe go up a little bit on it. 9:38 Speaker 0: I would probably keep that for a bit. And then as you lose more weight, slowly add in the 9:44 Speaker 0: Retatrutide and start to switch with them. 9:47 Speaker 0: So that's kind of my thing. You're right on course. I think AOD, 5Amino and SLU are fantastic. 9:58 Speaker 0: Tesamorelin, 9:59 Speaker 0: so you're taking that already. Would add on that you're doing great. Yeah, kind of similar to the last guy is you need to make sure your diet is prime. 10:06 Speaker 0: You need to realize that this is not going to happen overnight, 10:10 Speaker 0: and you just need to stay at it and do not stop. You will achieve your goal if you do not stop. Everybody stops. Just be that 3%, the do not stop 10:19 Speaker 0: Girl, just keep at it. You're gonna do it. Just know just write it down and make it be. Just do not stop. You will achieve your goal, I promise. You will. Like, it's so funny. You see people like the dominoes are starting to fall. 10:32 Speaker 1: I always see people so whether it's they're trying to gain weight, gain muscle, or lose weight, right, in the 1st maybe couple weeks, oh, nothing's happening. 1st month, maybe nothing's happening. Right? And then I'll just say, yo, just 10:43 Speaker 1: stick with the game plan. Right? Just process, process, process. Then your body starts to understand what you're really trying to do to it, and the dominoes start falling. Hell yeah. And then it's hard to get the ball to stop rolling. Right? People are like, damn. Now I'm losing too much weight. Right? So 1st of all, keep your dang momentum. 11:03 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 11:04 Speaker 1: And there are so many, and you can only 11:07 Speaker 1: I would try 11:08 Speaker 1: that 11:10 Speaker 1: triple combo. 11:11 Speaker 1: Then there are lot fat burners that you could try 11:15 Speaker 1: next round. Would not try all 10 11:18 Speaker 1: things at 1 time, but yeah, keep going. 11:22 Speaker 0: Hell yeah, girl. Kick ass. Love it. All right. HGH question. We love these. 11:28 Speaker 0: I've heard that if cancer runs in your family, HGH will speed up the process of the cancer cells growing if you take HGH. 11:36 Speaker 0: Any truth? I've been interested in taking HGH, 11:39 Speaker 0: but that's the only thing stopping me because my dad just passed away from 11:44 Speaker 0: pancreatic 11:45 Speaker 0: cancer? 11:46 Speaker 0: Great question. I'm surprised it hasn't come up more often. You want me to start? What do you got? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. 11:52 Speaker 0: I mean, 11:55 Speaker 0: HGH can definitely make cancer grow. I think everybody knows that. 12:00 Speaker 0: I don't think people need to be as worried as what's out there. If cancer grow is in your family, that would be a more concern. 12:09 Speaker 0: So, 12:11 Speaker 0: I am always going to air on the side a little bit more on the caution side, man. I just think there's other peptides that you can put in place that might just keep your mind lit, not stressing on it, you know? So that's where I'm gonna air on is just the side of caution. 12:27 Speaker 0: I have a buddy of mine that has had cancer and 12:30 Speaker 0: he's talked to me about HGH in particular, and 12:33 Speaker 0: I've advised him to not take it, man. I just do not think you should risk it. So, you know, that's gonna be my answer, man. I'm gonna say, ARA-1L, the side of caution, there's other peptides that do so much good things, almost equal to HGH. So that's what I would say, brother. There's other ones, man. There's fat burners out there. Just run those, man. Yeah, I would agree. I'd agree. Let's say on the side of caution, like your father just died of this. Okay? 12:59 Speaker 1: Do you want that? Because there is you already have the genetic predisposition 13:05 Speaker 1: for that to happen, right? There's a ton of other peptides 13:11 Speaker 1: that can change your body if you take them, 13:13 Speaker 1: but there's also some natural things you could do. Like let's start 13:17 Speaker 1: doing things that will naturally increase your HGH- 13:22 Speaker 1: Fascinating. 13:23 Speaker 1: And your testosterone. 13:26 Speaker 1: They're I mean and it's not 13:28 Speaker 1: Great answer. GH isn't like the this miracle miracle miracle that people thought think it is. Right? It's a long term play. You almost start to really understand 13:37 Speaker 1: what it's doing to you when you stop doing it. Like, testosterone works 10 times 13:42 Speaker 1: faster and more dramatic. 13:44 Speaker 1: And 13:45 Speaker 1: so you're not I don't think that you are 13:48 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, it's pointless to do anything now because I can't do that. It's like the 1 great thing that would work. Nope. There's a ton of other things that work. 13:56 Speaker 0: Plus, if you're taking it, let's say you take it, let's play this out. Let's say you take your HGH, you're probably gonna it's probably gonna be a mind F, right? You're probably gonna be tripping on it anyway. It's gonna be 14:06 Speaker 0: so Will just made a great point. I loved your answer. I thought that was amazing. Why don't you try fasting, man? I'm going to talk about fasting because I freaking love it. I fast so much, man. I do 72 hour fasts once 0.25. 14:17 Speaker 0: I fast almost always 5 days a week. I'll do a 24 hour fast every day. I fell in love with it. I've done it a long time. But when you get around the 16 hour mark of a fast, 14:27 Speaker 0: your body's going to shoot up HGH anyway, man. You increase your HGH. 14:31 Speaker 0: So you can do it a little bit more organically. 14:33 Speaker 0: Yeah, it would work better if you take the actual HGH. 14:36 Speaker 0: But for you, 14:38 Speaker 0: go old school, man. Just do a lot of fasting. Just go that route. Take some other peptides like 5 amino, things like that. That will be fat burners, things like that. I think you're gonna be better off there, dude. 14:49 Speaker 1: Yep. 14:51 Speaker 1: Cool. Alright. Well, you wanna take this 1? Yeah. So I listened to another podcast, and the guy was very passionate about not mixing peptides in the same syringe. He's saying that the pH can be different, mixing can cause each peptide to react or become unstable or degraded. 15:06 Speaker 1: I can't imagine people would actually use individual syringes and poke several times. Thoughts? 15:13 Speaker 0: You want me to take this 1? Yeah, go go ahead. I'll- Okay, I 15:16 Speaker 0: mean, I've done videos on it, man, and I don't think anybody 100 knows. I mean, maybe. I don't know, maybe. But I'm going disagree with it a little bit. I've done peptides for a long time and I do a lot. 15:27 Speaker 0: I run generally about 9. Now, I think some of the same ones in the morning at night, AOD in the morning, AOD at night, sometimes Thymosin Alpha in the morning, sometimes at night. But 15:36 Speaker 0: I'm not going to take every single 1 separately. 15:40 Speaker 0: It's just not going to happen. I take too many. 15:42 Speaker 0: And I have mixed them all. So I keep 15:47 Speaker 0: GLB-three 15:48 Speaker 0: out. I keep my HCG out. I take those separately. 15:52 Speaker 0: But for the most part, man, I have mixed most together, 15:57 Speaker 0: and I don't have a problem with it. I can tell you with my experience, I have no doubt in my mind that they are working. 16:04 Speaker 0: I think that's gonna be a matter of you and your opinion. I'm not gonna jab myself 7 times. It's not gonna happen. So I'm gonna put them all in the same bottle and then jab myself once. 16:13 Speaker 0: It's how I do Yeah. It 16:16 Speaker 1: know, 16:17 Speaker 1: know that 16:19 Speaker 1: I mean, same thing with, I don't know, some other stuff, 16:22 Speaker 1: right? Some PEDs, 16:24 Speaker 1: you know, people said, Hey, don't put them in the same syringe. Right? And 16:29 Speaker 1: I've done that lots and so is every single person I know, and they all still work really good. Now, 16:37 Speaker 1: maybe, and they could be a slightly different Now, I will say, yes, there are some that do not work well together, and you can and I would just personally, I just go by the proof is in the pudding. Right? If you are loading up a different peptide, like I did this the other day, had MOTS-three, SS-thirty 1 that I do every morning, and then I and then I 16:55 Speaker 1: drew up the HCG or HGH into 16:59 Speaker 1: that and whack, immediately it went cloudy 17:02 Speaker 1: and foggy. 17:04 Speaker 1: There was a bad reaction right there. So I I threw that. I squirted it out, actually, like, clogged the needle because it gelled up. 17:12 Speaker 1: That was that's a proof that is in putting those do not mix well. 17:16 Speaker 1: If it's gonna make your if it's gonna make that syringe go any other color than than perfectly clear 17:22 Speaker 1: like water, then don't do it. 17:25 Speaker 1: But personally, 17:26 Speaker 1: if it yeah, I'm not gonna stab myself a whole bunch of times. I don't think and I've been doing a 17:31 Speaker 1: lot of them too, and they all work. 17:33 Speaker 1: Okay? I know they are working, the individual ones that I put in the same syringe, 17:38 Speaker 1: so I do it. 17:41 Speaker 1: Matter of Because you're fine. Right? Like, the deterioration, 17:44 Speaker 1: who knows? I mean, we'd I don't know. But they see they all work just just good for me. So 17:50 Speaker 0: me too, man. 17:52 Speaker 0: Right, man. Hope that answers your question, brother. All right, would you ever suggest stacking GLP-two 17:56 Speaker 0: and GLP-three 17:58 Speaker 0: together? Is there a benefit or just stick with 1? I love that question. That's a good question. 18:03 Speaker 1: Surprise it never comes up. You want to take it? Oh, sure. I mean, I think we probably have the same answer here. Okay, 18:10 Speaker 1: so these 18:12 Speaker 1: GLP-one 18:14 Speaker 1: mechanism, right, 18:16 Speaker 1: it is designed to 18:19 Speaker 1: make your gastric emptying slower. So basically, it just 18:23 Speaker 1: slows the food processing down in your mouths of intestines. Right? And so you eat 4 hours later, it's here instead of here. So that's why we still feel full. Now, the issue with GLP-1s 18:35 Speaker 1: and 18:37 Speaker 1: a lot less so in GLP-2t, 18:39 Speaker 1: the side effect to the drug is nausea. 18:43 Speaker 1: That is what makes people not have an appetite. 18:47 Speaker 1: And 18:48 Speaker 1: that's not actually how the drug's supposed to work. Okay? That's a side effect of like, Damn, I don't even wanna eat anything gross. I don't wanna touch it. 18:55 Speaker 1: So but GLP-2T 18:59 Speaker 1: does that and a lot of people like that. That's why when people start with GLP-three, 19:03 Speaker 1: when there is now the difference 1 of the differences is they 19:07 Speaker 1: have a bunch of medicine, for lack of a better term, that counteracts that side effect completely in GLP-three. 19:12 Speaker 1: Okay? So it does not make you nauseous. You do not feel that, and therefore, doesn't just wipe your hunger and make you have dry mouth and not wanna come close to anything. And 19:22 Speaker 1: there is a benefit to that because people will need to now you can actually eat some food, right? And that's good to boost your metabolism. 19:28 Speaker 1: But 19:29 Speaker 1: there is, for certain people, like we said, if you need to lose a lot more weight or you really do like that fact that it's really making you not eat any food, then there is a benefit to using 19:39 Speaker 1: both of them in conjunction. Okay? 19:42 Speaker 1: That's the only benefit because they do the exact same thing except for one's a little bit bleed, does 1 19:49 Speaker 1: more thing better, right? 19:51 Speaker 0: That's 19:52 Speaker 0: all I got. Yeah, I mean, 19:55 Speaker 0: it's gonna always boil down to what are you trying to achieve, dude? Like, I don't know, like, you don't, you know, it's super vague. So like, what's your goals? Are you trying to lose a lot of weight? I don't know. That would be the base of being able to answer this, I think, in the best form. 20:08 Speaker 0: We 20:09 Speaker 0: have helped some friends with 20:11 Speaker 0: some weight stuff that they 20:13 Speaker 0: start with the GLP-two. 20:15 Speaker 0: Most people start there. And what I have found with people that start with the GLP-two 20:20 Speaker 0: that move to a GLP-three, 20:22 Speaker 0: they think it's not working because they're not used to being hungry on a GLP-two. So when they go GLP-three, 20:28 Speaker 0: you are hungry. That's the beautiful part. You get to enjoy food. You just get full quicker. That's the beautiful part of it. So it's a mine F to them because 20:36 Speaker 0: they're thinking it's not working, which is just working better. It does. You just got to let it run its course. So on that being said, 20:43 Speaker 0: there's some people that we've suggested where they keep the GLP-two, 20:47 Speaker 0: and we slowly add in the GLP-three, and we try to kind of taper them off of GLP-two. 20:53 Speaker 0: So that's 1 where you would run them together. 20:55 Speaker 0: Would you benefit running them together at the same time again? What are your goals? 21:00 Speaker 0: If you're trying to get really lean man and you have a problem with food and you want to really try to like block that food altogether 21:06 Speaker 0: and get the best of both worlds, maybe you can run them both together. Will and I love GLP-three. It's a freaking scientific breakthrough, dude. Like, you're generally gonna get the best benefit by just running GLP-three, dude. Yeah. And let it work. Like, it's, you know, like, let it do what it does, man. And when I say together, that doesn't mean take the regular dose of the GLP-2T, 21:26 Speaker 1: and then take the regular same dose of GLP-3R, 21:29 Speaker 1: okay? That's not what we mean. Don't mean we're not saying double up on them, okay? It's kind of 0.5 and 0.5. Type it out, right? Bring them out. 21:37 Speaker 0: I think we got that 1. Yeah. All right. My question is about blends. So I'm about to reconstitute 21:43 Speaker 0: CJC 21:44 Speaker 0: 5 mg, Ipam 5 mg, so 10 mg bottle. If I add 2 mil of backwater and draw 10 units 21:51 Speaker 0: by micrograms, does that mean I'm getting 2 50 micrograms of beach peptide? Will is a genius with this stiff. Yes. You did, you got it. But yeah, you want to elaborate a little bit more on that, Will? Yes, sure. I guess this is how I do the math and there's probably people who are a lot better at math than me. 22:07 Speaker 1: Way for it You're right pretty good at dosing though, but- I mean, I guess I'll hear And 22:11 Speaker 1: if you want to tell me a faster way, cool, but this is what works in my brain is, 22:15 Speaker 1: well, 1st of all, let's just convert the original to micrograms, right? Just multiply the number by a milligram by 1000. So what you really have is 5000 22:24 Speaker 1: micrograms 22:25 Speaker 1: of 22:26 Speaker 1: CJC 22:27 Speaker 1: and you also have 5000 22:29 Speaker 1: micrograms 22:30 Speaker 1: of Ipamorelin. 22:32 Speaker 1: Okay? Then you are putting in 2 mLs of water. Well, we know that 2 mLs is 2 22:37 Speaker 1: insulin syringes, you know, together, so there's they're each are 1 through 100, and they actually So show 10, 20, 30, 22:45 Speaker 1: in 2 mls, 22:47 Speaker 1: this is where maybe I'll lose people, there are 20 sets of 10. 22:51 Speaker 1: Right? 10, 10, 10. 10 times 10 is 100. 10 times 10 is 100. I just say, Hey, CJC, we have 5000 micrograms. 22:59 Speaker 1: I divide that by 20, 23:01 Speaker 1: and that will tell me how many micrograms are in 10 units. Okay? The answer is 2 50. 23:10 Speaker 1: So microgram. 23:12 Speaker 1: So 23:14 Speaker 1: 2 50 and 2 50, yes. 23:16 Speaker 1: If you do 10 units 23:18 Speaker 1: of each, if you do 20 units, right, you'll get 500 23:21 Speaker 1: of each, right? That water is, even though there's another peptide in there, it's 23:26 Speaker 1: not like 1 of those peptides is using only 0.5 of the water. They're both being diluted equally by all 23:32 Speaker 1: 200 units. 23:33 Speaker 1: So who knows? I don't know if that helped, but yeah, you got it. You're right. That is correct. Yep. You nailed it, man. You're good. 23:41 Speaker 1: You up? All right. Yeah, I'm on bed. So I recently tore something in my shoulder, has been diagnosed properly or has not been diagnosed properly 23:51 Speaker 1: yet through an MRI. 23:52 Speaker 1: Properly yet. Jeez. So through an MRI. So I don't know if it's my rotator cuff, my bicep tendon, or my pec muscle. 24:00 Speaker 1: Should I wait to start the Wolverine protocol or CLO until after the diagnosis or surgery, 24:06 Speaker 1: or should I start it immediately? 24:08 Speaker 1: I'd start it immediately. It's not like it's gonna hurt it and make it worse. 24:12 Speaker 1: They already aren't diagnosing it. So 24:16 Speaker 1: if you heal it before the diagnosis, which has so far has failed to have been made, then great, right? Job is there to heal it. 24:25 Speaker 1: And I would say inevitably, 24:27 Speaker 1: it's not like that stuff is gonna do anything bad. 24:30 Speaker 1: Right. 24:31 Speaker 1: TB- let's heal it before they can diagnose it. Then you don't need to diagnose it, I guess. 24:36 Speaker 0: TB- Never know, man. I mean, even if you have the surgery, 24:39 Speaker 0: we're going to recommend that you run it all the way up until the surgery and far beyond. I mean, I'm assuming you've heard my story about my back. I ran a lot of it up and a lot of it past. And 24:50 Speaker 0: I mean, you say CLO and Wolverine. So for people that don't know, like CLO is KPV, 24:56 Speaker 0: it's going to be GHKCu, 24:58 Speaker 0: which is a copper peptide along with TB-five 100 and along with BPC-one 25:02 Speaker 0: 157. So the Wolverine in particular, for people don't know, it's just very simply a TB-five hundred and BPC-one hundred 57. So my opinion on this coming out of a surgery is I would blast the hell out of it with the Wolverine, bro. I just love that blend. I just think it's amazing. 25:21 Speaker 0: Just blast it for a while and just see if it helps. I mean, if you have to end up having the surgery, 25:26 Speaker 0: it's to do good for it anyway, and you're going to heal a lot quicker. And then after your surgery, I would recommend high doses. Maybe you can go back and listen to 1 of our previous podcasts where I talked about how much I took. I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing of my back surgery, 25:42 Speaker 1: cut it down to probably like 0.333 of what it would have been. No doubt. So there you go, man. Run it. Yeah, I would agree. I would do the Wolverine, you know, BPC, especially, it's a tendon issue, right? BPC 25:55 Speaker 1: is really targeting that. So put it local, just as close to wherever you 26:00 Speaker 1: feel it. Sounds like it's somewhere around here. 26:04 Speaker 1: Find 26:06 Speaker 1: where pain is located, right, and go every inch 26:09 Speaker 1: around it. Interesting 26:11 Speaker 1: thing about healing injuries, right, I've been injured a lot. I've had 15 plus surgeries. You 26:16 Speaker 1: will have inflammation and maybe the 26:18 Speaker 1: pain is from here to here. 26:21 Speaker 1: As it starts healing, this is how pain how injuries work, you're gonna start feeling that the range 26:27 Speaker 1: lessen, right? And it's gonna become more centralized and become 26:32 Speaker 1: more harsh pain, right? It's gonna hurt more, 26:36 Speaker 1: but in a more central location. This is good. You are healing. 26:40 Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing. Soon, 26:42 Speaker 1: it'll be gone. 26:43 Speaker 1: Love it. Good shit. 26:46 Speaker 1: Alright, man. I'm lot of Thanks, Warriors. 1st things 1st, I wanna give you guys thank you for giving your input and your podcast. I have been was on GLP-two and transitioned to GLP-three for 2 weeks. I was running both at the same time doing a transition. 27:02 Speaker 1: I tell you what, I thought GLP-three 27:04 Speaker 1: was not working. 27:05 Speaker 1: I'm hungry. There you go. I'm a blue collar worker and a gym rat, so I definitely burned 3,000 calories in a day. GLP-two 27:13 Speaker 1: was not letting me eat. GLP-three is letting me 27:17 Speaker 1: and not gaining 27:19 Speaker 1: weight, 27:22 Speaker 1: but I am getting shredded. 27:24 Speaker 1: Okay? I'm sure the Tesamorelin is contributing. 27:27 Speaker 1: So 1st of all, he's basically saying he was on GLP-two 27:31 Speaker 1: and was 27:32 Speaker 1: doing well, was losing weight. He went to GLP-three 27:35 Speaker 1: and was like, this doesn't work, right, because I have a little bit of appetite. But continued on and was like, Damn, I'm eating and I'm getting even more shredded. Right? And this is exactly what we have been talking about in some of the previous questions. Right? 27:48 Speaker 1: So my question is on SLU-332 27:51 Speaker 1: and BAM-fifteen, 27:52 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on how to run these peptides? 27:54 Speaker 1: Following up question, should I try Methylene Blue and stack all 3 together? Once again, thank you, can't wait for our Discord channel. Sweet. So Good. Good job. Cool. I guess I 28:05 Speaker 1: summed up the 1st portion. 28:07 Speaker 1: SLU-0.00 and BAM-fifteen. 28:09 Speaker 1: We're about to do a podcast. I think that 28:12 Speaker 1: so BAM-fifteen 28:13 Speaker 1: so SLU-p, it's crazy. We talked about this maybe last week, but, like, SLU-3.5 28:18 Speaker 1: can be ran really friggin' high. Okay. It's safe. People are doing crazy 28:24 Speaker 1: doses. I personally would say between maybe 500 micrograms a day in 28:30 Speaker 1: a tablet, okay? Sublingual better, but an oral tablet, think, is better than the injectable. 28:35 Speaker 1: So 500 micrograms to 4000 28:38 Speaker 1: micrograms 28:39 Speaker 1: a day. People 28:41 Speaker 1: are running 28:43 Speaker 1: crazy amounts, 400 mg, 28:45 Speaker 1: but I didn't say do that. 28:48 Speaker 1: The 28:50 Speaker 1: BAM-fifteen, 28:51 Speaker 1: different story. I would probably max out at like 70 mg a day. 28:56 Speaker 1: You don't want too much of that stuff. 28:59 Speaker 1: It's 29:00 Speaker 1: an interesting combination, 29:02 Speaker 1: right? Banf-fifteen is almost making your body less efficient, and therefore you burn a whole bunch more calories doing the same thing, and so you lose weight. 29:10 Speaker 1: Anybody who has DNP, 29:12 Speaker 1: it does the same thing. It's like splitting electrons, and there's 29:16 Speaker 1: a complex 29:17 Speaker 1: explanation for this, but it does not make you The problem with DNP is just massive overheating, and that could be fatal 29:24 Speaker 1: at times. So BAM-fifteen does the same thing except for without that problem, which is awesome. But still, 29:30 Speaker 1: I'd limit it to about 70 mg. Methylene Blue, 29:34 Speaker 1: I 29:35 Speaker 1: know lots of people who take it a lot. My warnings would be don't take too much. 29:41 Speaker 1: Okay? 29:42 Speaker 1: Don't 29:43 Speaker 1: take it on top of your skin transdermally and just let it soak in. Some people do that. It'll stain your skin, then you don't know how much you can get dangerous amounts of it. 29:54 Speaker 1: And there are some preexisting conditions that you don't want to 29:59 Speaker 1: have while taking it. 30:02 Speaker 1: You probably shouldn't be on SSRIs, which are antidepressants, 30:05 Speaker 1: right? Serotonin 30:07 Speaker 1: reuptake inhibitors. 30:09 Speaker 0: Specifically 30:10 Speaker 1: for Methylene Blue. Yes, for Methylene Blue. But, 30:15 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have personal, 30:17 Speaker 1: too much really extensive experience. 30:20 Speaker 1: Early on, I kind of read on it and 30:23 Speaker 1: maybe the side effects 30:25 Speaker 1: Scared me away a little bit, but as I've talked to more and more people and talked to more people who've been using it and watched them, I think there's a safe way to use it. Right? Don't be dumb. 30:36 Speaker 1: And I think it sounds like it works, though. 30:40 Speaker 1: It will 30:41 Speaker 1: restrict if you're looking for big pumps in the gym, and Methylene Blue is not the answer. 30:46 Speaker 1: Its goal is to kind of restrict that. It's given to shock patients when they're shocked and their blood vessels are opening up and too much blood is flowing and they're getting restricted in different places. So it's counteracting that effect. It goes against what you're trying to do because the SLU is going to burn fat. The BAM has been known to increase strength. So those 2 together are rad. 31:05 Speaker 0: I would take out the Methylene Blue, but SLU-1.2 and the BAM, go for it, man. That would go perfect with you if you're shredded, run it. Yeah. 31:12 Speaker 0: For sure. All right. Next. 31:16 Speaker 0: All right. Hey, guys. Love your podcast. Thank you. Thanks for all you do. I'm a 50 year old male. Although I have no history of cancer, I've recently had a colonoscopy and several polyps removed. Because of this, I've been avoiding peptides like TB-five 100 31:31 Speaker 0: that can potentially grow tumors. However, there are certain peptides I would really benefit from, such as Glow, 31:37 Speaker 0: which is GHK-two, 31:39 Speaker 0: TB-five 100, and BPC-one 157, 31:41 Speaker 0: and HGH. 31:43 Speaker 0: Any thoughts on this? 31:44 Speaker 0: Am I being overly cautious? My doctor is ultra conservative 31:48 Speaker 0: and not much help on this matter. I mean, 31:52 Speaker 0: 1st and foremost, I think 1 of the things a lot of people run-in with doctors knocked on them that a lot of them don't know a lot about peptides. We've actually talked to a lot of doctors and they just don't. Hopefully, lot of them are starting to get into it, so hopefully they will. But 32:06 Speaker 0: I think we've kind of answered this to a degree 32:08 Speaker 0: already in 1 of the previous questions. I mean, for me, man, I'll answer it 1st and Will can take it after that. I would air on the side of caution, man. 32:16 Speaker 0: I know we've talked about if you have not had any type of markers in the last 3 years, some people will say that it's okay to run the HGH. 32:24 Speaker 0: I'm going to on the side of caution again and just take out the HGH, 32:29 Speaker 0: man. There's other ones you can run. 32:31 Speaker 0: The TB-five 100 or just the Clo, dude, as long as you have been cool for a few years, 32:37 Speaker 0: you're good, dude. Run it. I think those, the Clo and a bunch of fat burners, 32:41 Speaker 0: you're going to kill it on it. I would just personally take out the and like we said for the last gentleman, 32:48 Speaker 0: try some fasting, 32:49 Speaker 0: Do some old school, like organically increase your HGH. That stuff really does work, I'm telling you. So pull out the HGH and run some other peptides, dude. You'll do well. Yep. And 33:00 Speaker 1: 2nd everything, but it sure looks like you haven't been 33:05 Speaker 1: clear for 3 years, right? I mean, if they're removing polyps 33:10 Speaker 1: from your colon, I would say let's not 33:13 Speaker 1: take that step. 33:15 Speaker 1: TB 500 33:16 Speaker 1: anything. 33:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I know, dude, some doctors are like uber ultra ultra conservative, and that is kind of annoying. Right? I had a little, like, back problem. My doctor goes, well, just don't lift weights ever again. 33:27 Speaker 0: Dude, who you talking to, bro? And I'm like, 33:30 Speaker 1: I mean, can you tell me maybe, like, you try to say, like, what 33:33 Speaker 1: kind of weights not dude, she's like, Just don't don't ever do it again. 33:37 Speaker 1: You're talking Chinese doc. You're talking Chinese. What are It's just not a helpful answer. You know what I mean? Because I'm obviously not gonna do it. So like maybe go find another doctor that can 33:46 Speaker 1: give you 33:47 Speaker 1: like an educated opinion instead of just saying, You're better off being in a bubble. Okay? Just don't do that and you're safe. Right? Don't do anything, you're safe. That's not health. 33:58 Speaker 0: Well, 1 of the things that I had run across with a lot of people when I was kind of doing a lot of coaching on fitness and stuff, and they would talk about doctors on certain things, on cholesterol and certain things and like 34:09 Speaker 0: statins and all that stuff came across my plate quite often, I would ask them, Well, is your doctor in shape? 34:15 Speaker 0: A lot of them would say no. I said, Why are listening to him then? Why don't you do it, doc? Like, why are you not in shape? Like, if you want me to not do that, why are you not in shape? Like, 34:23 Speaker 0: if you're getting your health advice from a doctor that's not in shape, you might want to find a different doctor. Yeah. 34:29 Speaker 0: Logic, just be logical. Like, because doctors are great. We give them respect, but 34:34 Speaker 0: they don't know everything, man. So you might want to get some other opinions. 34:38 Speaker 1: There you go. And if they tell you to eat if they tell you 40 g of protein a day is terrible because you're gonna have protein poisoning, 34:47 Speaker 1: find something Do 34:48 Speaker 1: that. 34:50 Speaker 0: Is this you? Alright. Me. Where am I? 34:53 Speaker 1: 40 year old male, former d 1 athlete. 34:56 Speaker 1: In 12/01/2024, 34:59 Speaker 1: I weighed 3 50 35:01 Speaker 1: through a combination of diet and Terzep and 35:05 Speaker 1: intermittent fasting, cardio, and strength training. 35:08 Speaker 1: Today, I'm down to 2 50. That's very awesome. Lost 100 pounds. Good job. Hard work and a little bit of help. Love it. While on which a little bit of help is perfectly acceptable. 35:19 Speaker 1: I know. 35:20 Speaker 1: With I followed this journey about 65 days ago, I started TRT. 35:24 Speaker 1: Damn, you did all that before doing that? 35:28 Speaker 1: TRT, so I think you're saying my testosterone 35:30 Speaker 1: level was 134 35:32 Speaker 1: nanograms per deciliter. Estrogen was at 44, so I was basically a woman. 35:36 Speaker 1: Holy shit. 35:37 Speaker 1: Sermorelin 35:38 Speaker 1: then recently added Ipamorelin, MOTS-1C, and AOD, and Wolverine Blend Ultimate. Cool. BTMK, 35:46 Speaker 1: which is 35:48 Speaker 1: BPC-, 35:50 Speaker 1: Mechano, 35:51 Speaker 1: Growth Factor, 35:52 Speaker 1: TB-five 100, and KPV. 35:56 Speaker 1: I've listened to every episode of your podcast and adopted 35:59 Speaker 1: a lot of what I'm doing based on what I've learned from you 36:02 Speaker 1: I like the transition from Tirzep to Retta, so GLP-2T 36:06 Speaker 1: to GLP-3R, 36:08 Speaker 1: and from Sermorelin 36:09 Speaker 1: Ipah to Tessa Ipah to work off the stubborn belly fat. Recommendations for starting dosage, 36:15 Speaker 1: the GLP-three 36:16 Speaker 1: or 2, I was doing 25 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday. K? Sermorelin's 36:21 Speaker 1: 15 units, 36:23 Speaker 1: which is 5 mgs, 36:24 Speaker 1: 5 days on, 2 days off. 36:27 Speaker 1: K? 36:28 Speaker 1: For 5 mgs, 5000 36:30 Speaker 1: micrograms. 36:32 Speaker 1: 5000 36:33 Speaker 1: micrograms. 36:35 Speaker 1: 5 mgs a day. Okay. Greatly appreciate everything you do. Thank you for the advice. PS, I'd love to hear an episode on you your individual battle rhythms. 36:44 Speaker 1: When you administer peptides in relation to training schedules and meals and any other supplements you add like creatine or BCRS. 36:51 Speaker 0: Interesting. Why 36:54 Speaker 1: don't you go ahead since I was thinking about reading? 36:58 Speaker 0: Well, 1st and foremost, dude, you've lost 100 pounds, dude. You should pat yourself on the back, dude. Standing ovation, that is not easy to do. So good on you, man. 37:06 Speaker 0: Nothing wrong with a little help with a GLP-one. 37:10 Speaker 0: Not at all. I mean, it helps kind of light a fire under the fat. So good on you when it comes to that. And you've obviously been listening, man. I mean, I think that you 37:19 Speaker 0: want to move from tirzepatide to the Retta. We think that that's a better compound, hands down. So good on that. Get rid of the Sermorelin and the Ipah and transfer over to the Tesa Ipah. Perfect. Do that. We're better fans of that as well. So good on you on that as well. Tirzepatide, 37:35 Speaker 0: you're doing 25 37:37 Speaker 0: Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 37:39 Speaker 0: What I would say, 37:41 Speaker 0: which is not that that's not a huge, huge well, 37:44 Speaker 1: 25 mg. So 37:46 Speaker 1: that's 2.5 mg per that's per injection, right? So that's 7.5 mg. 7.5. So it's getting up there in regards That's about midway through. Low dose, starting dose should be 2.5, max dose 15 mg. 37:58 Speaker 1: 7.5 is pretty good. You're a big male though. I've seen big males go up to 10 or if you're our friend, go to 15 and be like, don't feel anything. 38:06 Speaker 0: Yeah. You guys seem to have a problem too, where you need to do a little bit more. We've seen that for sure. 38:12 Speaker 0: I would say keep the Tirzepatide for a little bit and let's slowly add in some Retatrutide 38:17 Speaker 0: and start to 38:19 Speaker 0: flip them. 38:20 Speaker 0: Right? Because you're going to want to surely because the Tirzepatide, you still have I don't know how much weight you want to lose, 38:27 Speaker 0: but we want to kind of keep the Tirzepatide for the 1st week at the 25 units, how you're doing it. I would say start with the Retta, maybe 10 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and start to slowly 38:40 Speaker 0: move them over 38:42 Speaker 0: and fully get on to the Retta. That might take you about a month. I think you could transition into about a month in Retta 39:01 Speaker 0: I think that would do good for you. 39:05 Speaker 0: You might even, you said you put an AOD, so you got AOD, so you're running that. AOD is amazing with Tesla, Ipah. Those 2, in my opinion, are just 39:14 Speaker 0: amazing. So you're doing great on that, brother. And like we've said numerous times is 39:19 Speaker 0: slow and steady, man. Slow and steady. You are going to get there. Just keep doing what you're doing. Just keep doing what you're doing. We'll make some small changes, as we just said. 39:29 Speaker 0: In regards to answering 39:31 Speaker 0: your stuff about our 39:33 Speaker 0: individual battle rooms, I do have another podcast that 39:37 Speaker 0: I talk a lot about sobriety. I talk a lot about whatever I wanna talk about, men being men and all kinds of stuff. And I actually have had Will on my podcast for that exact reason so that people could get to know him. I know him well. 39:51 Speaker 0: So, you know, we do have an episode where I interviewed him and we told a little bit about like the genesis of us coming together and kind of doing what we're doing now. So it's called the iron perspective. 40:03 Speaker 0: You can hit me up on DM if you want me to actually send it to you. So we have done that. In regards to 40:09 Speaker 0: when we do our peptides 40:12 Speaker 0: and supplements and stuff, I'm huge on fasting. 40:14 Speaker 0: It sounds to me like you haven't seen some of my Instagram stuff. I do a lot of fasting. 40:19 Speaker 0: You always wanna take your peptides fasted. 40:23 Speaker 1: What else? Did I answer all that? There's kind of a lot going on in there. When do we administer peptides in relations to training? There was just requests on the other ones. I mean, the last part was just kind of, Hey, he'd love to hear episodes and like, you would like to hear us maybe talk in detail about 40:39 Speaker 1: timing of taking and other supplements? 40:42 Speaker 0: Creatine for sure. I'm a creatine HCL guy. Got it right here. I don't take monohydrate. 40:47 Speaker 0: My experience with monohydrate is it bloats me a lot, and I don't like to feel bloated. 40:52 Speaker 0: I do not get that on creatine HCL, 40:56 Speaker 0: so I think everybody should take creatine. It is amazing. So yeah, you should That's another thing that I take. 41:01 Speaker 0: So yeah, I do take that. Cool. 41:05 Speaker 1: Here's a good thing, good for you. And 41:08 Speaker 1: the fact that you're a D1 athlete and sorry to those who aren't, like, the people who just have an athletic body 41:13 Speaker 1: tend to do very well with all of this stuff. Yeah. It really didn't surprise me. You put a little bit of hard work in, just do the right things, and and and your body just works how it's how you want it to work. So good for you, use that for your Yeah, and now you're 40, right? Do all this stuff now, man. It's gonna get harder in 10 years, 41:30 Speaker 1: I hear. 41:33 Speaker 1: But, 41:34 Speaker 1: so yeah, lose 41:36 Speaker 1: that weight now. 41:38 Speaker 1: I think to answer your specific questions, 41:41 Speaker 1: yeah, get on the TRT. 41:43 Speaker 1: You should He's on. Yeah. Boom. There you go. So you're like Start it. Awesome. Good for you for losing a 100 pounds without being on that. I would switch to the Tessa Ipah. It's you said Sermorelin, you were doing 5 mg to 5000 41:56 Speaker 1: micrograms. Seems really high, but okay. If you weren't retaining here's the biggest issue is too high 42:03 Speaker 1: of the HCG-8s secretagogues, you need to see some water retention. Right? Yeah. You will look bloated. 42:09 Speaker 1: If that happens, 42:11 Speaker 1: lower your dose and then slowly titrate 42:14 Speaker 1: up again. 42:16 Speaker 1: Now I would I would drop Sermorelin. Would switch to Tesaipa, and I would do it 7 days a week before bed, fasted, 42:23 Speaker 1: and I would start if you're used to doing a high dose, I'd start with 1 mg 42:28 Speaker 1: of each. 42:29 Speaker 1: So I would do that, 1000 mg 42:33 Speaker 1: each. You take them. Okay? Remember, they come in 5 mg plus 5 mg. 42:39 Speaker 1: So, 42:40 Speaker 1: yeah, so 1 mg of each, this is total of 2 2 mg 42:45 Speaker 1: total out of a 10 mg bottle. 42:48 Speaker 1: That's what JD said. Cool, I would try that. 42:52 Speaker 1: Yep, I would do 42:54 Speaker 1: the same thing he just said on the Tirz and the Retta transformation. 43:01 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Yeah. Diet, you didn't talk about your Some other things, dude, try, I would try to sloop 43:08 Speaker 1: and SLU-1BAM 43:09 Speaker 1: mixture. 43:13 Speaker 1: Seems like you're doing awesome though. Keep going. I think I'm great. You're trying 1 thing or another, you would probably benefit. The fact that you've been carrying that much weight and you're a former D1 athlete, 43:23 Speaker 1: would add in the Wolverine blend just for your 43:27 Speaker 1: you're working hard here. Your body's gotta hurt 43:29 Speaker 1: for being that heavy. 43:31 Speaker 1: He has it in there. I'm 2 50 and that sucks. I'm tall. I'm 2 I'm 6 4, but like, 43:36 Speaker 1: it's still and I played I played football, like, 2 75 43:39 Speaker 1: at the, like, the beginning of the season. I'd finish at, like, 2 25. 43:45 Speaker 1: But, yeah, just do that for some general comfort. 43:49 Speaker 1: And we can talk later, but creatine's awesome. Creatine's like 1 of the 43:53 Speaker 1: basically, like the only actual over the counter workout supplement that actually works for gaining muscle. 44:01 Speaker 1: And HCL is great. 44:03 Speaker 1: BCAAs, 44:04 Speaker 1: I said this, yes, last time. We we we they're not gonna help you recover. They are just for intra workout so your body doesn't go catabolic. So your body, instead of burning your own muscle, 44:13 Speaker 1: it burns the BCAAs off so you get to keep you can train longer essentially and not lose 44:19 Speaker 1: muscle. Your body won't start eating in your muscle. So keep going. Ask us another question as you've progressed a little bit with these new add ons. 44:27 Speaker 1: Hey, man. Right. It. You're up. 44:31 Speaker 0: All right. Last question, guys, and it is a long 1, so bear with me here. All right. So hello, thank you for sharing information, helping others. 44:38 Speaker 0: I'm 42 year old mom of 2. Awesome for you. 44:41 Speaker 0: I've always been pretty active. I've been logging my food and tracking my macros for 4 solid years now. I strength train 4 to 5 times a week and get average of 10 ks steps per day. My sleep is a priority and I'm constantly on timing and duration. I feel like I have to be 100% on my game 45:00 Speaker 0: and in this severe calorie deficit to get the scale to move. 45:05 Speaker 0: I've been tracking progress with InBody scans, and I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle, 45:11 Speaker 0: gaining gain weight. It's almost 45:14 Speaker 0: always fat and very little muscle. 45:16 Speaker 0: I lose weight. It's always 45:19 Speaker 0: muscle loss with fat loss. I do have visibility at visible abs, but carry extra weight in my legs. I'm wanting to look lean, 45:28 Speaker 0: strong, and sculpted. 45:30 Speaker 0: I've had my hormones tested and went on testosterone pellets and a thyroid medication 45:36 Speaker 0: back in May. My total T was 17.9 45:39 Speaker 0: with free T of 1.1. I recently started Reta NAD 3 45:43 Speaker 0: times a week and 5Amino-1MQ 45:46 Speaker 0: 5 times weekly. I ordered MOTS C, but haven't started that. Would you suggest 45:52 Speaker 0: add MOTS C now mid cycle 45:55 Speaker 0: or 45:56 Speaker 0: wait till I'm coming off the 5Amino and start the MOTS- C? 46:00 Speaker 0: What would you suggest I try? I assume I stay on Retta longer term, yes. Looking for what to try next to shred off stubborn body fat to promote lean muscle gain, trying to keep costs in check 46:13 Speaker 0: while making progress. I know I have a lot. Any advice is great. Appreciated. Great question. Long question, but yeah, well, why don't you pick up on that? Okay. Yeah. 46:23 Speaker 1: Good? 46:24 Speaker 0: You're disciplined. 46:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, 1st of all, you're kicking ass. Keep going, dude. You will and you've made a lot of progress. I'm struggling to see what the problem is, if you can see your abs. 46:35 Speaker 1: You have but I think you did say, Hey, the problem is you have a little bit of extra weight in your legs that you're not liking. Okay? 46:45 Speaker 1: So 46:48 Speaker 1: glaring thing that pops out to me is my guess is like, hey, you can only lose a little bit of weight if you're on a severe 46:56 Speaker 1: calorie deficit. 46:58 Speaker 1: I would challenge you to 47:00 Speaker 1: really try to start eating 47:03 Speaker 1: small frequent meals. K? High protein. Also shock the hell out of your body, and JD, you can talk about that, like some fasting, even carnivore, those are some drastic different diet plans, but I would 47:14 Speaker 1: lots of people don't want to lose their weight. To get you out of that, you need to shock your body. We also need to boost your get your muscle up, as you said, right? Anytime you lose weight, it's muscle and you can't really gain good muscle. So 47:26 Speaker 1: eat small, frequent, healthy meals, okay? The problem is when you start doing that, you're not gonna lose weight, right? In fact, you might gain a little bit of weight. 47:35 Speaker 1: Then people do that and go, Oh, screw this. I'm going back to just cutting calories, right? And that is just leading you to yet another plateau. 47:44 Speaker 1: So 47:45 Speaker 1: I 47:46 Speaker 1: would say just 47:47 Speaker 1: eat some frequent, small frequent, good high protein meals 47:51 Speaker 1: and just stay the course. Let your body adapt. 47:55 Speaker 1: Even if you gain a slight bit of weight, just stay the course, okay? 47:59 Speaker 1: Body will now your metabolism will catch up to the foods you're eating, right? You'll gain a little bit of muscle. Your body will understand what it's doing. Then it will be able to actually burn fat off and not just body weight indiscriminately. 48:12 Speaker 1: Right? 48:16 Speaker 1: I would definitely go to the Retta. The Retta's gonna help you because you'll be able to eat some more food, right, versus the 48:21 Speaker 1: Tirz. And I don't know if you said you were doing that, but keeping the Reti, that's correct. 48:27 Speaker 1: Maybe 48:28 Speaker 1: SLU-3.3 is what you said. You asked for some other alternatives, right? SLU-fifteen, 48:36 Speaker 1: L Carnitine, 48:37 Speaker 1: if you're willing to 48:40 Speaker 1: inject 48:41 Speaker 1: into intramuscular. 48:43 Speaker 1: L 48:44 Speaker 1: Carnitine is gonna help just shuttle 48:47 Speaker 1: fat 48:48 Speaker 1: into your mitochondria, into the furnace and burn that 1st, right? Of It 48:54 Speaker 1: puts you in a state of ketosis, not being in a state of ketosis, right, so your body decides to burn fat over sugar. 49:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, stay the course. Here's the other fact is, sorry, some people are just genetically, like, you're losing weight and like you just have some extra weight in your legs, 49:12 Speaker 1: that's just genetically how you're made. And it might come a point where I actually have some same girlfriends who did like the cool sculpting. I'm not gonna say they're gonna do plastic surgery, but, hey, you might want to, I don't know, try that. It's not a usual answer. I think you should try everything else 1st. But to get some of that fat 49:29 Speaker 1: frozen, they do a bunch of cardio after over the next couple weeks and it really gets rid of it. I've seen some people have success with that. 49:36 Speaker 0: Yeah, what I've got is that you are obviously disciplined. I'm extremely disciplined. Sometimes it can be a little bit of a double edged sword, and here's what I mean by that. I'm so disciplined that sometimes, like, I stay stuck in my way so much that if I, Oh, no, I don't want any carbs. I'm high fat, high protein. So if I, like, eat carbs, I almost feel like guilty. You know what I mean? It's like an OCD type deal. So maybe you're a little bit like me. 49:59 Speaker 0: We need to shock our system. We need to change things up. 50:02 Speaker 0: And 50:03 Speaker 0: a lot of people, when they do that, they don't see instant results, they jump ship quickly and resort back to what they did. That's just human So 50:09 Speaker 0: you're probably going through some of that stuff. 50:13 Speaker 0: Will just gave you eating small meals every 2 hours. Everybody's heard of that. There's so many different diets. I would imagine you've tried some, but everybody's 50:22 Speaker 0: different. 50:23 Speaker 0: I'm going to advise you to try a little bit of what I do. 50:26 Speaker 0: I've worked with 50:28 Speaker 0: probably 90% men, 50:30 Speaker 0: but 10% women, and I've seen radical improvements, 50:33 Speaker 0: adding in some fasting. 50:35 Speaker 0: Fasting is great. You don't need to fast as much as me, but like maybe just cut out breakfast and fast for a bit, 50:41 Speaker 0: and then do a high fat diet, maybe a month. Maybe if you feel great, which you will, if you convert to running on fat, you're gonna feel really good. 50:49 Speaker 0: And maybe then you go for 2. Just see how you feel. Try either Will's Way 1st and my way 2nd, or just see how you feel, but you're going to shock your system either way. 50:59 Speaker 0: And running on keto, a keto type diet or a carnivore diet like me, 51:04 Speaker 0: that will shock your system. You don't have to do it in any type of perpetuity, 51:08 Speaker 0: but just try something different. 51:11 Speaker 0: In regards to the Retta, awesome. Keep it. Stay on it. NAD is great. 51:16 Speaker 0: 5Amino is great too. What I have found and I've said it numerous times, but 51:22 Speaker 0: I had my wife on, had, I just took her off, but she was on AOD in the morning and she was on Tesamorelin 51:28 Speaker 0: at night and like, I literally saw changes in her immediately. 51:32 Speaker 0: So maybe try that. AOD in the morning and Tesamorelin 51:37 Speaker 0: at night, it worked wonders for her. 51:40 Speaker 0: So maybe try that. As to your question in regards to should you add the MOTS-se now or wait, add it in. MOTS-3s great. I love it. You might even wanna add in, depending on your pocketbook, SS-thirty 1 because Will and I speak of it often. MOTS-seven and SS-thirty 1 almost should be ran together to get the ultimate from them. 51:58 Speaker 0: But, yeah, to answer your question, 52:00 Speaker 0: I wouldn't wait. I would just run it. I think MOTS-3s amazing. 52:04 Speaker 0: I 52:07 Speaker 0: think that I answered that. Did I answer that? Yeah, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet. Switch up your diet. Don't get stuck on, in the OCD like I get on sometimes. Throw a big curveball at your system and shock the hell out of it. It will 52:21 Speaker 0: jolt your system and your body won't be used to it. That's the same thing if you work out the same way every day, your body's going get used to it. You got to shock the hell out of your system then and you're gonna see growth. Same thing with diet, man. You gotta shock the hell out of it. So just change your diet, I bet you you'll see radical improvements. 52:36 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I agree. I agree. Shock it. Intermittent fasting, like heavy- 52:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 52:43 Speaker 0: Cold plunges. 52:44 Speaker 0: Yeah, man. Cold plunges, just shock the hell out your system however you choose. I think either way, if you even do it like Will, like I said, 52:52 Speaker 0: eat small meals every couple hours or stuff, that's gonna get your metabolism 52:56 Speaker 0: running 52:57 Speaker 0: Or do it my way and try the carnivore or keto diet. 53:00 Speaker 1: Either way, try something different. You'll see results, I'm almost certain. And enjoy the damn process, you know? It's fun to take all these experiments. Just 53:08 Speaker 1: enjoy it, take a look and see what it does. Like, you will find it. The fact of your work ethic, like, 53:13 Speaker 1: you'll be fine. You'll get there. You will get there. You just keep going. 53:16 Speaker 0: Yeah, those are great questions today. Enjoyed those. Those are good, man. I 53:21 Speaker 0: enjoyed it, man. I love that people are listening. We are so grateful for all the kind words of all you. We get blasted in regards to all of our social media channels, and we are just so, so, so grateful. So thank you all for that. It really means the world to us, man. We love doing this. So, 53:37 Speaker 0: that's awesome, man. Anything else, Will, before we go? 53:41 Speaker 1: Nope. Thank you, everyone. 53:43 Speaker 0: Yeah, you guys have a good time, and we will see you next time. Take care. Alright, later.