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1:09Speaker 3Welcome back to the pep title of the week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. To my left, my buddy, my business partner, my brother, mister William Tirzepatide. What's up, dude? What up, man? And it is,
1:21Speaker 4good to be back here. Yeah. And with JJ, I don't know if you know, but I got back. I've been to Italy for the last 2 weeks. Oh, that's awesome. We went to Prague, then I stayed with my girl. That's awesome. And who is now my fiancee. Oh, congrats. But I'm so glad that happened there. So that happened there. It happened there. Thanks. We're in the Malfi Coast. Yes. Of course.
1:40Speaker 4That's awesome. I didn't want to, but I did not do the typical, like, you know, there's so many pictures of on the boat in front of Positano.
1:48Speaker 4Right? And I was like, well, let's do something. So I met, I had her do a back flip off the boat.
1:53Speaker 4And then when she got up all soaking wet, proposed to her. And I like, told the driver, I was like, yeah. He's she's not gonna like this with all the wet hair. Yeah. Yeah. Guys don't think like that. Oh, well.
2:04Speaker 5Right. She liked it. That's awesome, great. Good for you, Marshall. Congratulations. Thank you. Let's probably introduce
2:11Speaker 3he's somebody that we respect heavily. It's such an honor to be sitting with you across the way finally. Like, we've done a few podcasts with him, but never live.
2:27Speaker 5the peptide guru. I could go on and on and on. If you don't if you're in this in if you're in this space and you don't know who Jay Campbell is, you you're doing it wrong. So welcome to the show, bro. Man, thank you guys, man. It's an honor to be here. I love both of you guys. I'm very grateful that you guys have always treated me with the respect and, you know, just when you say that, like, I know you guys are real, right, because you guys know that I was like the TRT person. Right? Yeah. And so many people today don't know that because they just kinda found me in the last couple years because of the peptide books. You know what I mean? So,
2:56Speaker 5yeah, man. And and you guys are the same, man. Like, I, know, real recognizes real. You guys are OGs too, so it's like, you know, it's cool when all of us can, hang and, you know, respect 1 another for what we've done, but also because we're boys, you know what I mean? Like, we live the same day to day life. Mean, dude, I was telling Trevor this last night, and I know you guys know this, like we are under more pressure,
3:28Speaker 5you know, people in black jackets coming here at some point, you know, searching us saying, What the fuck are you doing? Like, nobody really realizes the pressure that we're under every day, you know, and it's like, the coolest thing is is, like, we're not doing this. You know, we obviously, all of us are doing well in life financially, but we're not doing this for that. We're doing it to help people. And
3:47Speaker 5that's what's so cool about what we're doing. And so it's like, I think when people ask me, because people do ask me all the time, they're like, dude, do you ever like go to bed, you know, freaked out or like thinking that something might happen tomorrow? I go, no, I, at times in my life I did, but now I know that because I'm helping people, I'm doing the right thing. Yeah. Right?
4:04Speaker 3Yeah. I mean, I always say it like, I die on this hill because like, there's the this is our purpose, man. Like, I don't know how this happened. I mean, God put his hand on this company. And like I said, this is my favorite story about you, Like we were, we started this company as most did in a garage labeling our own stuff,
4:24Speaker 3Right. And how rad is that? When I want to tell the story, when I met Jay, I was up at, the Peptide, 1 those conferences, and I brought I brought my boys and my wife, which was a bad idea because I could not focus. And my kids are running around the wind. I'm like chasing 1 of them. And then I see Jay,
4:41Speaker 3like, what's up? You know, so I go up to him and Hunter, like, what's up, dude? We take a picture and stuff, and my wife goes when when you guys walked away, who was that? I'm like, that was Jay Campbell and Hunter Williams. She's like, are you kidding me? Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, that's how we met. You know? It's awesome. It's just it's that law of attraction stuff that I talk about so often.
4:58Speaker 3And when I kind of fell in love with you, so to speak, buddy, when I was that when you came on my podcast, what, a year and 0.5 ago on my personal podcast, like you just said, like attracts like. We hit it off. We didn't talk about websites. We just talked about, like because there needs to be people that are gonna be at the at the in the front going, dude, I'm gonna I'm gonna take what happens because I believe in this so much because people are sick and tired going to Western medicine and walking out with some
5:28Speaker 3stuff that's going to jack up their gut. And that doctor didn't ask him any questions, not even how do you sleep? A 100%. You know what I mean? So it's an honor to be sitting here with you, man. And it's such a small,
5:43Speaker 3all kind of combined. I think it just this gym across the way from us happens to be like the home gym of like 1 of Trevor's business. Yeah, exactly. That we Yes. So it is a very You know Doug? Oh, you know Doug. He was supposed to go last night. I ran into Doug. Yeah. So pretty cool. I didn't get to ask this last time because I'm curious.
6:00Speaker 3You've done a lot in life, dude. Like you're an author, you've, you know, you've been in the TRT forever.
6:09Speaker 3You know, my that fire got lit in me about 5 years ago and it's just been a just forest fire. Like Will and I just want to do a lot of big things. You guys all. And
6:19Speaker 3out of all that you've done, what do you love the most? Great question. What's your favorite thing? Great question. Definitely
6:29Speaker 5the shelf, different answer than what you expect. So I've sold companies, you know, obviously I've built a really,
6:35Speaker 5I'm clearly building an empire right now, right? Like I have 1 of the biggest RUO companies in the world. We're building, as I was telling you guys, which, you know, we can talk about today, we're building like 1 of the, probably the biggest 503A
6:47Speaker 5sourcing companies, right? So it's like, there's all this stuff that's cool that's coming about,
6:52Speaker 5you know, from the businesses that I'm building. And, you know, I sold my 1st company back in 2022. We were the 1st, it was called a SEER custom. It was me and another guy, but we were the 1st
7:10Speaker 5or something like that. And after we paid off, you know, what our inventory loans were, I think him and I each walked away after taxes. We each walked away with like $1,200,000,000
7:23Speaker 5But yeah, don't get me on that. But no, honestly, like for me, man, the most important thing is like I'm doing work and so is my wife with a woman in Northern California, and she's like a very advanced spiritual coach, and I'm so blessed to work with her. And like, dude, she's like breaking my ego. She's literally
7:41Speaker 5Like, I'll explain it this way. Like, there's 2 game boards in life, right? There's the lower game board, which is like, you know, us making money,
7:48Speaker 5you know, driving nice things, having nice cars, taking care of our families, our wives, our kids, etcetera. And then there's the upper game board of life, which is like learning to become an ethical human being. Sure.
8:05Speaker 5life is about fucking people over, getting paid on to come up, blah blah blah. I can keep going. Right. But it's like,
8:11Speaker 5I've always walked that quote unquote seekers path. Like, I always wanted to question things. You know, obviously, you guys know that with just TRT all that stuff. But like now I realize, like, it's cool to question things and seek, but at the same time, you got to do the work and you have to be a living demonstration
8:28Speaker 5how do I remove my self importance? Like, how do I go into conversations with people and not attempt to like set some sort of like hierarchy
8:37Speaker 5where I'm the man? You know what I mean? Like, because I think- That's what she's working with you. You can kill that ego. Exactly. And I really think that people like us who are driven to our successful, you know, we're hair on fire entrepreneurs. We
8:50Speaker 5do come into relationships or conversations or whatever it is, not even knowing because our ego is calling the shots of like trying to set the hierarchy. Like, you know, I'm the man. I'm
8:59Speaker 5here, you're here, or I'm here and you're there. And so like, this has been incredible because we started this work in November
9:07Speaker 5of me. That's right. So like, it's the most amazing thing, man. And honestly, like, I'm being very, you know, obviously vulnerable and transparent with you guys right now. And as authentic as I can be, it's like been very hard because when I have conversations with people now who want normally I'd be like, I'm going to fucking rip your head off and
9:23Speaker 5blah blah blah. Right now I can't do that anymore because I'm sitting there in that place of like, Okay,
9:29Speaker 5all of this shit that I've created in my past life, you know, this ego drama, I should call it crisis, right, is literally an ego impostor. It's not who I really am. The authentic J, the authentic will, the authentic JD,
9:41Speaker 5we just are loving beings. Yeah. Like, that's all we are. And so it's like, I'm now able to sit there and not react and
9:48Speaker 5not get defensive, to not be on the offensive and just be like, Hey man, how do I how do I come to a solution that benefits everybody in this conversation right now or everybody in this room right now? So that for me now is the biggest piece
10:02Speaker 5of like where I'm going in my life. Right. And it's not it's not easy, as you guys know. I mean, you know, you're dealing with every single day you wake up and you're like, Oh my God.
10:12Speaker 5Yeah. You know, and for me, most of my life now is East Coast. I got a lot of European stuff going on, too. So it's like being out here the last 3 days, dude, every morning has been a challenge. Right? I wake up and I never get on my phone, of course, never do that. But I, you know, even if I come like this morning, I'm at the Pendry, I went out on the balcony and I got sun for like 15 minutes.
10:30Speaker 5And then I came in, I look at my phone, I'm like, Oh. Now in the past, I'd like, What the fuck?
10:37Speaker 5Then, you you're in a spiral, right? But like, now I just look at it, I'm like, Okay. You know, I said to my wife, I'm like, Hey babe, like, I don't think we're gonna be able to have sex, but later, maybe today, maybe later today or for sure tomorrow morning, let's make sure. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm now like not sideways
10:55Speaker 3Well, can I dig into that a little bit? Of course. Yeah. Like, what gets you there? Because like, dude, to be an entrepreneur, like you said, and a very driven, we are driven guys, right? And it's a balance of ego and drive. Like sometimes you don't know where they're crossed. Yeah, yeah. Right? You know what I mean? So what has she been working on with you? I'm intrigued. I mean, it sounds like I'm gonna give you her phone number pretty soon. She's absolutely amazing. I mean, honestly, I'm happy to give you guys her number. She's
11:21Speaker 5She, I mean, dude, so much. Like, you have 1 hour call every week. Right? And she has you do what she calls stalk your feelings. Right? So it's like, you have to sit there. I mean, you do all sorts of exercises in the beginning. I'm in March. We're our 9th month with her now, but because they started in November, but
11:42Speaker 5right? Well, so like how you base everything is like you write what you like about yourself and what you don't like about yourself in the very beginning.
11:49Speaker 5And then, you know, you'll probably have 25 things you don't like about yourself, 100 things you like about yourself, whatever. But you then,
11:56Speaker 5like each, every 1 of those statements, you literally stalk to get to the root of like, why do you feel this way about yourself? Right? And I think you guys know this, like almost every dude,
12:09Speaker 5There's like some place in our life where our dad didn't love us enough or didn't give us enough attention or whatever.
12:20Speaker 5Exactly. Validation. That's the best word. Right? So it's like all of us are like that at some point in time. So it's like when you identify these triggers or these things that happened in early in our life that made us become this way, you can still be that person who's high achieving and, you know, super charismatic
12:40Speaker 5not exactly not driven by like the egoic. Again, she calls it the ego impostor, but that impostor that's behind the
12:55Speaker 4got sober is by doing a whole lot of internal work on ourselves, right, and doing, and I don't want to go around.
13:06Speaker 4basically, it sounds very familiar, right? It's like break you down. Right. And although, you know, we come into this place pretty broken, although you
13:30Speaker 4yes, but with just kind of getting right sized. And I can't tell you how many times that I have had the thought right. It was a miserable
13:44Speaker 4misery, really miserable. But I absolutely with wholehearted conviction say like, we are the lucky ones to
13:50Speaker 4experience that because we finally had a reason to look for something better, right? To find
14:01Speaker 4where now we can kind of live above that. And it took a whole lot of ego out of us, right? Exactly. With all of our sponsors, I know we had a,
14:19Speaker 4I thought it was a wrong, you know, it was the wrong way to think, but that's how I live my life. Right.
14:24Speaker 4And just dissect every part of our lives and then go through and write all the bad things that we've ever done to everybody. Then tell that to another human being. So
14:34Speaker 4that's been a, that's a huge process and we try to live our lives and we only say sober by living that way still With
14:45Speaker 4But, so yeah, I respect it. It's a lot of hard work. That's awesome, man. There's spiritual
14:52Speaker 3With that said, you're an author. I mean, you know, how many times over, I don't even know. Like, oh geez, I mean, wow, that's amazing. Has
15:06Speaker 5I shouldn't say now because this year has been a little bit slower because there's so much growth with BLL, but I normally read between 8 to 12 books a month. Okay. Wow, that's lot. That's more on this guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
15:16Speaker 5So I'm like, I mean, and I'm still a paperback guy. I literally, my wife just bought me for my birthday in February, an actual Kindle. I have a Kindle. I I have I mean, this is you guys are gonna laugh at this, but I I carry the Kindle with me in my back after this huge step, but I still have to pay. I get it, bro. Yeah. Because I'm highlighting it. You know? So I mean, literally, at any given time, there's 5 or 6 books open around my cardio machine or my desk in my office or whatever. But, man, I've read so many of them. I like 1 this year that I just has been has profoundly impacted me. It's called living the law of 1. And it's like the law of 1 teachings. And it's like, again,
16:10Speaker 5have, you know, these are 1 of the things that she does with us is she gives us affirmations,
16:23Speaker 5And so all of these things have been like, oh, they're incredible, All of these things have been uncovered in my working with her. And, you know, it's,
16:31Speaker 5it's like, I don't know, man. Like, it's just, it's, it's just really the thought process that coming from like, don't be attached. Yeah. You know, don't have expectations.
16:41Speaker 5Every moment that we're alive and breathing and our fingers are working, our legs are working as a gift. I love that. And
16:49Speaker 5you know, I have a statement. And again, I borrowed this from, Doctor. David Hawkins, you know, the consciousness guy. And he said, Everything is happening divinely as it's intended. Sure. And so I added to that always and in all ways, and our resistance is futile because as you guys know,
17:05Speaker 3resistance is in our mind. Yeah. We're creating the resistance. If everything is divinely happening as it's supposed to be, yeah. 100%. Anything that happens where we're like, why is this happening to me? Yeah. Self created. Yeah. Self created. Well, there's a lot of times when we're, like, going through that hell or whatever storm, and we're like, what is going on? Yeah. Exactly. If you just wait cause there's something freaking amazing to get through or the growth that comes through that. I mean, think about it. When you were talking to what's made me think of that, I don't know if you've ever read
17:36Speaker 3Extreme Ownership. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have. Amazing book. He talks about that where like, don't let anybody have your power. Exactly. Like if you let somebody get you pissed, they
17:44Speaker 5win. Like, I've always seen about that because I'm a little bit of hothead, you know, talking to you both, you know, but I think of that and it's just kind of remind me that you don't let them steal your shine, man. Exactly. You know what mean? It's hard for guys like us. To that point, for guys like us, it's very difficult because people can trigger us. And you're right, like the only way you won't let it happen is by practicing. Sure. It's a muscle. So it has to go to that thought of what you just said of like, don't let them steal your shine or just again in your mind, like, you know what, this is like, I have 1 in there that I wrote. It's an affirmation of like, anytime there's a crisis, it's an imposter
18:22Speaker 5We are literally creating the crisis in our mind, like you said, allowing somebody to steal our shine, steal our joy
18:29Speaker 5for nothing. But I like my wife, because I had a little small incident this morning and she's like, use your tools.
18:40Speaker 3That's all funny. Yeah, it's not easy, man. I mean, we're, we're, we're always under construction. We're never complete. The fact that you're even doing this even at your age, that I love it. That's because right, we're never done. We're never going to be. And if we have something, if we're hot or whatever and you don't work on it, you're doing it wrong, man. Exactly. Well, I mean, dude, I'll look at my dad, right? My dad is 81 years old. My mom died of COVID, but honestly, she was really morbidly obese and she was not healthy. And,
19:09Speaker 5I look at my dad, he's 81, he's a multimillionaire. He lives by himself. He's got a badass lake house up in North Blue Ridge, Georgia. He goes up and fishes. He's still very, very,
19:19Speaker 5able-bodied and stuff. But dude, he has never done a single 2nd of work on himself. And so he's completely still living in the ego mind. I mean, he's a maniac. He's like literally managing his stocks, freaking out at 81 years old. He has nothing to worry about. You know, on watching CNBC in the morning and I'm just like, my God, Like, so I guess, you know, it's what you said, Like, we have to, humans,
19:43Speaker 5especially if we choose to be ethical humans, we have to work on ourselves and it never stops. When you come from that,
19:50Speaker 3because the way that I articulate it, most of the time we're products of the product. Exactly. Like the reason I try to live my life the way I do because I have 2 boys and I care about, I look at it like it's not even my sons, it's their families. A 100%. That my, how I live my life. And I take that like,
20:08Speaker 3so you said your dad, your mom passed away because she's greatly overweight and that's what you came from. So how did you become where you're at? Because that's hard to break away from that type of-
20:18Speaker 5spiritual work. So my dad was a very successful wage slave, right? Like he was not an entrepreneur. He did not teach any of his kids. And by the way, I'm the oldest of 9. Right? So 6 boys, 3 girls, and everyone was taught to be a good, a good, a good little wage slave. Right. You know, right. Go up the ladder, get a becoming executive, get your golden parachute, a pension, blah, blah. So it's like, you know, I was like that guy,
20:51Speaker 5Edmunds, and then Autotrader. So like every 1 of them, and I rose all the way up to, like, I was an executive. I was actually an executive vice president at 40, almost 41, the middle of my 40th year,
21:08Speaker 5Irvine. This is when I was living in Pasadena. This is back in 2010 and sacked us. And the next day, seriously
21:18Speaker 5shit. Swear to God. And we were the 3 highest paid guys in the company. And they were literally just saying, Hey, we're just doing this as downsizing. They, you know, the owner explained it as like, you know, we're cutting. Cost You guys are the 3 highest paid guys in the company. We know you guys are going to go get a job with a phone call, know, because it was like, I mean, it was, it wasn't a bad time. Remember, 2010 was at the bottom, right? Like 2009, 2010 was bad, but we were very skilled and accomplished. And so we figured it would, which actually didn't happen because over the next 2 years it was a whirlwind. But, yeah, the next day I was sleeping in, I remember driving home thinking, holy shit, I've been working here for 10 years. I had a great job. You know, my wife, I had just a baby. My girl was my oldest was 3 and my newest born was like 4 months old. Yeah. Right. And also a girl. And I
22:04Speaker 5that night thinking, Oh, this could be the 1st time I sleep in it. I don't know how long, because it was actually on a Monday, you know, and we had driven all the way down to Irvine, which is where Kelly's corporate offices were. And so the next morning I was asleep and my buddy who worked for me in Chicago called my ex wife and was like, Wake Jay up.
22:21Speaker 5Because he had known that I lost my job because they were the 1st people I called when I was driving home and she's like, He's sleeping. Why would I wake him up? She's like, Wake him up and put on CNN. I'm not seeing CNBC.
22:30Speaker 5And there was the publisher who had just fired me the day before in Chicago announcing
22:37Speaker 5with the auto trader just got that they just made a murder. They just got bought by auto trader. So it's like, I mean, I do, I put that on and it instantly hit me. I was like, oh, now I know when. Yeah. Let me go. That makes sense. Yeah. And then, so then that guy was like that 3 days later, he calls me and he's like, dude, I don't know how to tell you this. He's like, but I just got $175,000
22:54Speaker 5bonus. He's like, so you and Joe and the other guy was nice, Mike Romano. He's like, you guys probably just got cheated out of $300 each. So
23:09Speaker 5if you're working for a company, all you are is an employee ID number. Doesn't matter if you're the CEO, chief executive officer, chief CFO, whatever your employee ID number. So it was at that moment that I was like, there's no
23:21Speaker 5fucking way that I'm ever going to go back to be a wage slave, But what am I going to do? Okay, I have all these awesome skills as a digital marketing assassin, so what am I going to do? And very truthfully,
23:33Speaker 56 months later, 8 months later, I met Monica and she was like a very, very successful,
23:38Speaker 5I shouldn't say 6 months later because that was actually when that 1st happened, I was still with my
23:43Speaker 5ex. And then over the next 2 years of going from job to job in a very terrible economy, we ended up getting divorced. A lot of crazy shit happened. And I met Monica
24:05Speaker 5Because she knew that I was like a marketing ninja and she's like, Oh my God, all the things that you do could dramatically help my business. And I'm like, Well, you know, I'm not a weight, I'm a wage slave, right? I'm like 2 checks a month. I don't know about this. Totally.
24:17Speaker 5And again, this is back now in 2012 and she was like, Just, just trust. And so she was the person that like really started me doing my inner work and my, you know, call it, you know, self exploration,
24:30Speaker 5you know, internal stuff. You know, we, we, we, I, I, honestly, I did the craziest thing at the time. I mean, like I was literally living in a very small apartment in Studio City and I was working for, this is after I got my divorce and I moved back to California because I was in Vegas for a little while.
24:54Speaker 5with my ex and I, and she, you know, charged accused me of domestic violence. And so I got arrested in Las Vegas and
25:01Speaker 5kids got taken. I get worked up over this. So like at that time- You've heard this song a lot of times. Yeah,
25:07Speaker 5you guys all know what happens, but I couldn't go back into that line of work because I wouldn't pass a background check because I have my arrest record. So everything actually got suppressed and deleted
25:17Speaker 5because it was all made up, but I had to go through that 4 years, but this is before I met her.
25:29Speaker 5literally, it was a crazy decision to move in together and become the marketing side of her real estate business. And I swear to God, I literally went from, like,
25:57Speaker 5it was at that point I really started to realize that like, okay, now- You did a lot of stuff out Yeah, like I have all these skills in my mind that I was, you know, this corporate wage slave, but I can apply these as an entrepreneur. And so then the rest was history. We built an incredible real estate team,
26:15Speaker 5star rated teams in the San Gabriel Valley. We were crushing. We had like 20 agents, etcetera.
26:25Speaker 5and using tech in the way that I was. And so she also gave me the ability to start writing these books and start doing all of this shit. And she knew that I was obviously super into my fitness,
26:39Speaker 5God bless her, you know, she gave me that ability to go at night and hustle and like, write and
26:44Speaker 5spend time and doing all this. And she was literally at that time we had gotten my daughter's back. And so, you know, she had 3 biologicals and obviously I had 2. And so we were raising 5 kids. And so she was like super mom, you know, because she was being the agent during the day, watching the kids at night and allowing me to go back to the office and just fucking grind. I love that. 1 of the things that popped off when you said that is because
27:06Speaker 3is just, I think so many more men need to do that. And behind every good man is a better woman that supports, and I have a bride like that as well. And
27:14Speaker 3I tell people, because on the iron perspective, my personal podcast has really changed towards entrepreneurship
27:21Speaker 3Listen, everybody could do this. Everybody could do this. Like some guys are born better at it, but don't go home and sit on the couch, dude. You just, what you jumped out at, you didn't go home and sit on the couch. You get, you started writing books. You suck at whatever,
27:41Speaker 5don't like people think I'm gonna have my weekends off. Like we watch, what are we working 16 hour days for the week?
27:49Speaker 3But it's something different when it's yours, man. Exactly. Like when you buy a dollar that you make from just your brain and hard work,
27:56Speaker 3it's liberation, dude. A 100%. You know what I mean? And there's so many men, more men that just need to just get after that and start doing that stuff. A great story, man. Yeah, thanks.
28:05Speaker 5I haven't shared that story. It was kind of little different directions and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, like, you know, back in, I think it was 2011,
28:12Speaker 5you know, my ex, you know, accused me of beating her up and she was actually cheating on me with, like, an ex sheriff in Vegas. So they knew how
28:21Speaker 5to put me in jail. So I actually came back from a business trip, swear to God, from Chicago. And I was on a Friday night. She actually picked me up at the airport, brought me home, fed me, went to bed at 6 a. M. Oh, man.
28:39Speaker 5dude, that was crazy. And so, like, the next, you know, 3, 3.5 years of my life is insane, you know, because I had to suppress the record, you know, get out of all the bullshit that I was accused of. You know, it was a life changing thing, but as you said, you know, it makes you really much more grateful for what you do have. And then, you know, obviously I was on my Ps and Qs from that point forward, and life has just been mostly like that. That. Because last time when we we talked, you and I had my personal 1, the very 1st 1, we dug into a lot of, like, life and stuff, but I didn't hear that story. And, 1 of the things that I've learned by talking with a lot of men, of successful men is
29:13Speaker 5most of them have been through some shit. It doesn't mean drug abuse. It means anything. And there's your thing, but like, you notice how beautiful life is after you've seen darkness. Exactly. Yeah. No, you have to. I I do agree with that. I think that most men who do accomplish a lot, you know, however you define that. And I, you know, it's funny. I think
29:34Speaker 5Absolutely. And not have a fucking set in your bank account. But every single day you wake up
29:43Speaker 5tough, right? Because like we're all taught to grind and, you know, to to to do whatever and to achieve. And I think all of us, like as men at our core, like, you know, we kind of measure ourselves by how much of a provider we are. True. Yeah. And so like a lot of times, like, think we lose track or sight of the idea that like if you're just content and
30:01Speaker 5you're joyful and you bring joy to other people, you know, you don't have to have a scent in your bank cash. It's
30:09Speaker 3helping other people. Exactly. That's it. Like you want to find joy, peace, contentment. We all do.
30:14Speaker 3Why don't you just help somebody with no expectation? That's always the heart. That's how you fix whenever you're feeling down, go help yourself. Yes. It works every time. My daughter was going through some she's getting picked on in high school and, like, she was going through some shit, you know? And then I said, Taylor, call your mom and tell her how much you love her. She's like, why?
30:31Speaker 3Get out of your head and do something good for some other people. It's such a good way of doing things. You know what I mean? You just it's like, it's a muscle. We gotta work on it, but, that's cool, man. I really enjoy that part because I had some curiosity about that stuff. You know, you're such a talented guy, and it's everybody has a story, man. Yeah. You know, it's always been No. It's it's not all been you know, it's been Right. It's been it's been Yeah. Everything's like they see on the top. Yeah. It's been it's been very, very,
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32:02Speaker 5Sure. You know, I mean, all of us, man. Like, I'm sure you guys have, you know, a very similar story, but yeah, I mean, there's, there is no growth without adversity. And that's, and that's to me, like, the most important thing is like, you know, we come in here as souls, we enter these physical bodies
32:16Speaker 5And really, you know, I think the great Walter Russell said the path is to the top of the mountaintop, right? We come out of the womb into the base of the jungle and the path is back to the top of the mountain. Yeah, yeah. And the path to the mountaintop is in different directions,
32:27Speaker 5you know, and it's like this and there's nothing linear about it. You know, you might go here, you might go there, you might go there. But it's like, it's make it's maintaining a perception that you are loved
32:38Speaker 3and everything is okay. And you need to chase growth and you need to grow and you're under construction. I mean, you're at 55 and you're working on your ego now. That's growth. You know what I mean? It's hopefully your wife is with you too. She- Yeah, honestly, I mean, it's absolutely amazing
32:53Speaker 5that that is. And, you know, we've actually talked to our coach about that. I'm like, How many couples have you had do this? And she's like, 4. You guys are our 4th. And she's been doing it for 30 years. So she's like, This is amazing. Right? And honestly, like, there's been times I'm not going to lie to you guys. Like, we actually on Tuesday,
33:09Speaker 5what's today? It is Thursday. Yeah. Tuesday, when I had to get them on the plane and their flight got canceled and it was like crazy stressful morning to get my daughters back, you know, because 116, 118. So they had to fly together and go back. And I had so much planned, including you guys, I couldn't, know, deal with it. So thankfully it all worked out. But like we, her and I had
33:28Speaker 5a serious conversation that we wouldn't have been able to have before. Yeah. Because if we weren't doing this work together, we would have just flipped out. Was huge. It just would have just been an unravel, you know what I mean? And then we would have been back there apologizing to each other the next day. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know, and it's like, as you guys know,
33:44Speaker 5that's 1 thing I've learned from working with this woman. It's amazing. It's like, apologies are useless. They are. When you apologize to someone, you literally give them permission to do it again. Yeah.
33:59Speaker 5I'm going to offer a better solution. I'm going to be more strategic. But I mean, think about all of us and for people listening, how many times in your life have you tried to fix something by apologizing? Nothing.
34:11Speaker 5nothing. Because you are literally, again, giving them permission to do the same thing again. So come from a place of like, look, I could, I can be better.
34:20Speaker 5Know, that was not my best. That was not my best behavior. That was not the best of me, whatever it is, but come from a place of like solutions.
34:27Speaker 4What is the solution so that this doesn't happen again? Right. Yep. My father, I mean, as a little kid, I remember my dad telling me that concept, do not tell me you're sorry to fix, just don't do it again. Tell me what you're to do to make, to not do it again. Yeah, exactly. I don't want everyone here who's telling you sorry, because it's bullshit. That means nothing.
34:58Speaker 4who's the 1 who's really kind of pushing each other to go into to work on yourself? Or has it been a mutual, like- A mutual. That's great. Very mutual. So here's a great thing about Monica. Monica was a boss babe. And when she met me,
35:38Speaker 5She wants to know that the man is going to care of the kids in in a bad situation, is gonna provide all those things. So it's like women that are not like that and become so alpha and so man like Yeah. They lose a sense of their sexuality. They lose their femininity. And, obviously, society we have today is a lot of that because there's so many weak men. Right? Wow. So
36:05Speaker 5gave me the opportunity, God bless her soul, to become the man that she ultimately desired me to be. And that's exactly what's happened. That's huge. If she didn't give me that opportunity,
36:15Speaker 5know, like with her ex, but her ex was not like me and was very weak and very passive aggressive, very meta. He doesn't have any excuses for him. He was like the youngest of 14 kids and there were 13 girls and fucking like, so you can only imagine he was like this little prince, right? So like,
36:31Speaker 5you know, and she knew that when she married him and because like his mom used to tell her that and stuff like that. But the bottom line is, is that there are way too many women that have become men In our society, it's mainly men or so weak.
36:49Speaker 3It's literally not divine order anymore. When you absolutely when you do what you just said, I think that's literally how easy it is. Like, I barely
36:57Speaker 3even argue with my bride, you know, and my wife's an amazing human, but she feels safe.
37:05Speaker 5till my last breath. Exactly. And then she can fall into her feminine role. That's it. It's that easy. It really is that easy and it's crazy. I think my wife actually enjoys playing the role of spiritual mentor to me because
37:17Speaker 5she knows like now, especially since I'm doing this work and I don't really go off, you know, like you said, I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, react.
37:28Speaker 5nothing is until you decide how it's going to be, you know, based on how you react or you respond. Right. And I think you guys know this, right? Like we react this fear. Responding is love. It's literally that simple. It is. Responding takes time. Sure. Reacting is instant. Right? So it's like, again, it's that work we do on ourselves to like sit there and say, Okay, like you said, dude, just pause,
37:51Speaker 5let it come, and then boom, all of a sudden there's the answer. I mean, how many times now in your life have you sat there where you're writing an email to somebody, you're like,
37:57Speaker 3know, whatever it is. And then you're like, nah, delete it. Yeah, I do it all the time. I
38:05Speaker 5was gonna say that. It's amazing, and then you hit save, and you walk away, and then you never ever remember that you wrote it, dude. Sometimes I'm going through my drafts, like, you know, deleting shit, I'm like, holy fuck. I wrote that. Oh my god. Real. Brand for it. Sale. Well, dude, especially when your face is out there. Accidentally send the thing later.
38:24Speaker 3It does make you feel better. It does it does make you feel better. I mean, what we do in our faces out there, we're such easy targets. Like, I was telling you when we went to Prague. We were attacked. Like, I'm in Prague trying to give you good, like, content, like- Unreal. Liars. Like, you know, like, and it's like, when I'm tired, it bugs me a little more. And that's when I'll be like, Who are you fucking talking to? And then I delete it, but it makes me feel better.
38:46Speaker 5Does. I mean, honestly, I'm not kidding you. Like, it does help to do that. And that is a form of like, but you're still feeding it. It's a, but it's a form of passive aggressive release. Sure. It's just the key is not doing it, but like, that's 1 of the things that she's taught me about because obviously I'm like you guys, I'm a target.
39:03Speaker 5They are projecting their wounded. Oh yeah. That's all it is. They're projecting their wounding. Absolutely. And so if you're going to say anything to them, which you shouldn't anyway, but if you ever say anything, you just say, Hey man, I'm sorry, you know, that you're having a bad day or, you know, because again, it's energy, it's a wall of energy, right? Like if they attack you and you send them something back that's actually loving,
39:27Speaker 3for you. Grown up and they're like, what did you just do to me? You transmuted their anger. It's a Jedi mind trick. I had a story when I was doing my fitness stuff before we started this channel and like,
39:38Speaker 3I had talked about something about cholesterol, blah, blah, blah. And there was, know, Brad, the bodybuilder guy? Yeah. So I didn't know him at the time and he stitched me and he was basically
39:50Speaker 3for what I was saying, but what I was saying was right. So he couldn't fully knock me. So,
39:54Speaker 3and then, so I'm, I was at this barbecue and I'm like, motherfucker. And I started typing this and my wife's behind me. She goes, No, no, you don't act like that. And I said, You're right. So I said, Hey brother, just so you know, like, it was a time we can only have a minute for reals. Said, Hey brother, just so you know, I was right. I only have a minute to like articulate my point. But anyways,
40:13Speaker 3you do you bro, I'll love. And I forgot about it. 2 days later, he hits me up. He goes, that
40:18Speaker 3was the raddest comment. He's like, I've never had anybody respond like that, blah, blah, blah. I'll take you down if you want. I'm like, I don't give a shit bro, like run it dude. Anyways, he buys her peptides now, he is going on the podcast in like 2 weeks because we're friends. That's works, dude. You know what I mean? Like, just keep 1 them out is
40:36Speaker 5your enemy. If you transmute it by going back to them with love, they're going to be like, I'm telling you, at 1st they're like, What the fuck is going on?
40:49Speaker 5is now long gone, but I was a kid, like 16 or 17 years old, but he used to tell me that he used to teach me about energy.
40:58Speaker 5most, most muscular, like outlaw biker dude in the world who looked like they were so menacing that they could kill you. And you walked up to them,
41:06Speaker 5you know, at the time I was like 16 or 17 year old, little tiny, skinny kid. And he looked
41:11Speaker 5them in the eye and shake their hand and say, Hey, man, it's so nice to meet you. What is your name? I guarantee you they will be like, Hey, man,
41:19Speaker 5Spike or whatever. You know what I mean? And they'll shake your hand back and give you the same energy. So it's like, it's
41:28Speaker 3That is the response. Yeah. So well said. It's amazing, right? I know that people want to kind of hear some peptides talk, we'll get into that shortly. Last question that I have is,
41:38Speaker 31 of the things, I'm curious how you feel about this. So 1 of the things that I've struggled with in the last 5 years of starting businesses and being driven
41:45Speaker 3is not being able to turn my brain off. Like, where are you doing in Prague? And I'm thinking of all these things and like, Will will tell you, I'll say, Hey, let's do this, this, this. He's a good buffer for me. He's like, Let's slow down. You know what mean? But
41:59Speaker 3I'm present, but sometimes I'm just not able to kind of get Do you struggle with that? Yes. I cannot turn my brain off because I wanna do more and I wanna be better and Dude, 100%. So 100%. So,
42:10Speaker 5yeah, this is very relevant to me. So, again, working with this woman, working with this coach, her name is Tina Bunnell, by the way, she's amazing. She taught me and Monica
42:20Speaker 5number 1, the only way you will literally this is amazing advice and so true, and it's very heartbreaking to really think about it. But the only way you're ever gonna know if you are success in life
42:41Speaker 5that will show that you actually were present for them when they were kids. So when she taught me this, and this is 1 of the 1st teachings, like back in December of last year, I, my entire life instantly shifted because I realized, like you,
43:00Speaker 5I've been there financially. I've been there spiritually. I've definitely been there as a leader, but I haven't spent, I haven't spent the time. I
43:11Speaker 5them. Right? So since that time that I started doing that, dude, I just had a vacation with them in the Cayman Islands. It was just me and the 2 girls,
43:18Speaker 5and it was the best week of my life. Mhmm. I was in the ocean with them 6 to 7 hours every day just listening to them. No. That's true. Just like,
43:27Speaker 5you know, talking to them about their life. And I was so enriched. I came back and I was like, this was earth changing for me. So
43:35Speaker 5that you can be a great father, you can financially support them, you can lead them. But if you're not present,
43:43Speaker 5is where the risk for you or us later in life is that they won't be there because she's saying, trust me, because she has a lot of clients like this. She's like, there's nothing worse than being a 75 year old man or woman living alone. Kids don't want see your parents. I mean, your kids do not spend time with you and don't want to. Yeah. And she's like, that
44:02Speaker 5shows you that you failed as a parent, and no amount of money or earthly pleasures will overcome that. Huge. So it's very powerful stuff for me. So I was like, my God, you know, so my 18 year old and honestly, like, I've said this to them over time because as you know, dude, when you're grinding and you're building,
44:27Speaker 5she's so loving and she's like such a better version of me. I mean, I see so much of it. She's always told me, she's like, Dad, I know you've wanted to spend time with us, but look at what you've given us.
44:40Speaker 5car as an 18 year old and like 0.5 of my friends, like, you know, they don't even have cars, you know? So it's like, she's so awesome and she's actually grateful for the things that she sees that most wouldn't have, that she doesn't like hold it against me that I wasn't there as present.
44:54Speaker 5But she did say to me, which is crazy, she said to me, she's like, Now that you know about being more present, you have 2 years with Gabby before she goes off to school.
45:02Speaker 5So why I'm gone now is your chance. Right? And honestly, she needs more of my presence than 18 year old did. And again, you guys know this, like all of our kids are our best teachers, right? Like they're little angels, too. Yeah. And they're like literally guiding us and teaching
45:16Speaker 5us and preaching to us. I mean, I'm telling you, dude, like my 18 year old, I was at a football game with her. I took her to see the Bengals against Tampa, Tom Brady's last year, when we 1st moved to Tampa back in 2023,
45:28Speaker 5was actually end of 20 22. We weren't moved in yet, but we took them to the game because we're Bengals fans. Anyway, in the stands, it was like this,
45:37Speaker 5you know, special needs person that was like 3, 3 things in front of us. And he turned and was like,
45:44Speaker 5you know, so excited about this play or whatever. And like, I reached out to like, give him a hug and my daughter like got in front of me 1st and she says, No, me 1st. And I was just like,
45:55Speaker 5spiritually connected. At that time, she was only 15 years old. And I'm just like, This is a gift for me, right? Because I can learn so much from this person because she's this advanced. Absolutely. You are lucky. It sounds like she is a mature way. No,
46:15Speaker 5you know, heads relationship. And my wife and I always joke about all the time. We're like, wow. I mean, like, because they're very advanced and we're like, what kind of deal do they got worked out with?
46:24Speaker 5You know what I mean? But like, yeah, you can learn so much from our kids. So back to that story, like, I really do think that as parents,
46:31Speaker 4the number 1 gift we can give our children is our parents. For sure. That's good. Good. I also have a bonus, I like bonus children.
46:38Speaker 4I have a bonus child at home who, and it's my only child, you know, I get bonus child. It's my fiance's child, but,
46:52Speaker 4And absolutely, I'm trying to work on the being present and sitting with them. It's tough though. No, it's tough. And honestly, you literally just schedule,
47:04Speaker 5I told Monica that my phone would be in the morning before they were asleep. I would be on my phone and at night when they went to bed. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that was it. And you're in the Did you hold true to that? A 100%. I mean, there was 1 day, there was 1 day on Wednesday,
47:18Speaker 5you know, because we had rented the cabana and then we go out to the water, we go back to the cabana, go back to the water where I
47:23Speaker 5Because we were buying that house, I had to sign some documents and it was like time specific.
47:29Speaker 5And so, you know, Monica was like, Hey, she told me that morning, she's like, Look, you know, there's probably like a 2 hour in the afternoon, but I'll text you and I'll let you know that just, you know, keep it hidden underneath
47:38Speaker 5the thing. I did. And honestly, like I said, it was a man, guys, I really do recommend. I think that we do need to have like tech fasts.
47:46Speaker 5Yeah, for sure, And just be, like, in nature and not be around the stuff. For sure, man. Just really be present. Even just to if it's by ourselves and we're just listening to nature. Yeah, sitting by a tree just, like, reading and just, like, our feet on the ground. Exactly.
48:02Speaker 3Jay. I've been, didn't know all that stuff about you, so that's been good. Tell us a little bit about what your take is on the industry though, the market, the peptide stuff. That's what people want to hear about, obviously. Right?
48:13Speaker 3we feel it. I don't even know how to explain what that means, but, you know, we flew out to Prague to try to like give some people some cool content, ourself included and try to get, you know, just do better. And,
48:26Speaker 3people are buying a lot of stuff for really cheap. I think people are going straight to China and having no clue what they're getting. Even companies are buying from China and not testing them. What do you see happening with that? Like, how does that get fixed
48:38Speaker 5or does it get fixed? Good question. I don't think it gets fixed. I think we're in a new space. Think- That's a good way to say it. Isn't it crazy? As I said, and again, this is coming from guys that have been in the space for a long time, like all 3 of us, but
48:51Speaker 5I told Trevor this yesterday, and you guys know I told you guys this on the podcast, I think, was it February or was it January we did that? Was it that long ago? Was it really?
49:01Speaker 5No, it was early in the year. March. I think it was March. I think it was March. Oh, it was okay. I thought it was earlier, but that's fine. It was so early in the year. And I said 75% of peptides, I think, right now are either counterfeit,
49:15Speaker 5or fake outright. And now, you know, in speaking to Trevor yesterday, he said, Oh no, it's a higher net. Yeah. Damn.
49:24Speaker 5I know. Like those guys have the most, they're the biggest testers and sticklers in the business. But look, guys, it's a wild, wild west. There's it's a giant money grab. There's a lot of scammers that have entered the space now. Sure.
49:35Speaker 5You know, good guys like us who do the right thing and again, are here to take advantage and to help people not take advantage of people.
49:47Speaker 5which is at 1 time growing like crazy, is starting to get, I wouldn't say it's not growing anymore, but it's not growing at the scale that it was growing. Because again, there is just commoditization in the place. There's so many people that are selling peptides. Oh my gosh. As you guys know, and like, again, people take- Everybody. People take peptides for 1 month and start selling it out of the bathroom. Seriously, soccer moms.
50:19Speaker 5what is actually happening. But I think, you know, to your overall question, I do think
50:31Speaker 5You know, again, Trevor and I talked about this last night at dinner. I think that they really are going to rule again in February, which, as you guys know, is, what, 6 months away. Yeah.
50:41Speaker 5And then they're gonna deliberate even more. And I don't think they even make a decision until probably this time next year. Right? So we, in this space, have a full year before anything changes.
50:57Speaker 5is that they will do nothing with our space. The research use only space will stay the same. The compounding space will get weirder because what they are going to do with all those 9 peptides is they're going to say, Nope, no human use. We can't make them state class 1, but we can make it a patent. Yeah. And we're going to patent them for specific use conditions. Right? So BPC will be some sort of gut thing. Yeah, right. MOTS-1C
51:20Speaker 5is going to be, as I said, a bone mineral density, right? You're going have DSIP for insomnia. You're going to have like all those different peptides are going to have specific.
51:29Speaker 5And you think that those are 100%. I know they're going to do that. They're going to patent all of them for that specific use case. And then, as you guys know, as soon as that happens, price just goes up 7 to 10 times. Oh, dear. So now you've actually eliminated
51:43Speaker 5you know, who aren't in the research space, not our clients, but the people in the actual compounding space that we're hoping that they get moved to class 1 are now priced out because the only way you can get it is through that diagnosis
52:01Speaker 5Thursday or Friday of last week, and he was like, Look, dude, I see clear skies, clear sailing. Wow. I don't see
52:08Speaker 5and there's 1 caveat to that, but I don't see anything changing the research use space. Again, as and I have talked many times before, even on our 1st podcast, they look at us and they think we're just chump change. Yeah. Right. It's
52:20Speaker 5like Jeff told us. Like Jeff told us in September 2024, before we found a BiolaWeby Labs, he literally said to me, he goes, Until you guys can pay a fee, a quarterly fine of $100,000,000
52:31Speaker 5you don't exist. You don't exist. So it's like, it really is true. Like, they suddenly echoes, like, yeah, they see us and they think, oh, nothing, you know, we're not really competition.
52:43Speaker 5You know, you're making a couple of million a month, 5,000,000 a month here. You know, Peptide Sciences, I think you guys know where the biggest guys they obviously are out now in March. You know, if there was 1 company that they looked at them as maybe muscling in on their turf, it would have been them, but they're gone now. Yeah. So all of us are free and clear, provided 3 things. Number 1, we don't make claims.
53:02Speaker 5Number 2, and most important, we do not sell anything that Lilly or Novo or any of the pharmaceutical giants is selling because that's how you get nailed. Yeah. And then 3rd, and this is probably the newest thing, is don't do what Paradigm did, right? Where you sell all right songs or buy a lot of things that you
53:24Speaker 5controlled substance. Right? So it's like, dude, all these guys, when you look at them, why are they getting cease and desist? Because they're selling fucking steroids. They're selling songs. They're selling shit that the government says, Don't sell motherfucker.
53:36Speaker 5Yeah. And then when they actually get this what Jeff laughs about because there's evidently, you guys all just saw the paradigm guys because it was all over CBS. And clearly that guy was a piece of shit. Yeah. You could tell. Oh, yeah. You could tell. Right. He made things up, faked everything, was clearly not even fit, just a scumbag. He just looked like, look at the blaming Honestly, when I saw that I was like, oh, that guy's like, he's a snuff film producer. Know what I mean? Like, you can just tell he's a degenerate. Yeah. So,
54:01Speaker 5even him, and Jeff told us about this literally a year ago, because that was when he 1st got, you know, charged. He got a cease and desist and the attorney he hired told him, Don't worry about it. So
54:13Speaker 5he did nothing. So it's like, if they said you a cease and desist and you don't cease and desist and
54:20Speaker 5the 1 that's gonna happen. But there's now a new guy that I don't know who it is, but just as we all know who it is.
54:26Speaker 5And he also is doing the same thing. He's selling Psalms, he's selling. He's got arrested. He's selling. He's been charged. He's selling Levitine
54:38Speaker 5And he also hired a dumbass attorney who said, Don't do anything. And so now it's gotten on Jeff's radar.
54:44Speaker 5You know what I'm saying? And so he's like, The problem for us, and this is why wanted that caveat I was telling you, is that that like justice is seeing
55:02Speaker 5you know, doing all the things that we do as part of our day to day business. And so Jeff is concerned that if justice goes after this guy and he can't like headed off the past, it could be it could affect us at The US based from like a processing standpoint. Oh, wow. Right. So it's a it's a potential
55:19Speaker 5but he thinks he's going to be able to head it off because he's obviously going above justice and his friends. He's going to go to the RFK, you know, the MAHA people and be like, Hey, look, this is just day to day business in the space.
55:29Speaker 5You know, if you want to pop this guy for doing bad stuff, that's 1 thing. But don't pop him for doing normal stuff.
55:40Speaker 5there's so many bad actors and so many scumbags getting in as for the for the money grab. Exactly. You know what they're talking about. 100%. But if 1 of them does sell an adulterated product that hurt somebody, then that could also,
55:53Speaker 5I think, and again, this is my opinion, this is my opinion, but that could fuck it up for all. Sure. Because
56:09Speaker 5bad situation. I forget the term he used, but it's like it's a situation where they have to step in because it's becoming a public health risk. That's what it was. So I don't see that happening. And again, I say that because you guys know peptides are innocuous. They don't kill people. Yeah. You can't overdose.
56:28Speaker 5or something in it. And who's to stop these idiots from doing that? Then that would be
56:32Speaker 5the final, I would say, nail in the coffin from a standpoint of like, I don't think it would kill RUO,
56:38Speaker 5but it would definitely create a place where, like, everybody who's selling RUO injectable peptides would have to verify purity. Yeah. And you would be like, it would be like a government mandated thing and it would cost a lot of money and it would eat into our profit. It was like weed, right? Didn't weed do that?
56:55Speaker 4vaped you for sure. They basically said, Hey, you guys, she's from the vape industry, but they basically aren't weed industry. Yep. They think I molded it But they basically said, Hey, so every person who's making a lot of juice, right? You now have to, for every even milligram of juice or every flavor,
57:37Speaker 5Again, that's the problem, right? Because there are bad actors, stupid, then there's a serious- You're an idiot. But people that are doing it are not us. They're not in it for helping
57:45Speaker 3He's It's a cash grab. Yeah. No. No. It's a cash grab. Well, you see cash grab. Every single person and their brother has a peptide company now. It's like, dude, how many people even somehow get in here? And
57:58Speaker 3I don't know how that's going to change. I mean, what they're doing is they've sold a couple of Retatrutas
58:03Speaker 3to their sister's friend. And like all of a sudden, let me start to cut that gun. They have no clue that it's a bitch.
58:08Speaker 3It is not as easy as people think. You know, banks don't want you, you know, you'll get your Venmo's shut down all the thing. Want to tell you a funny story. I've told her, but you'll, you'll get a kick out of this. So somebody got into my office
58:25Speaker 3he's like, I want to start a peptide company. I'm like, all right, so tell me about your marketing. What do you got in marketing? He's like,
58:33Speaker 3And I'm like, I thought Jay, I'm a mortgage guy too, right? In sales. I said, oh my God, how did this happen? And I said, okay, well, let me be blunt. That's not gonna work. So tell me a little bit about TB-five hundred. I don't know about peptides, but I'm gonna start learning. And
58:49Speaker 3how the fuck does it get going? And I said, so you don't have any money to start the company. You don't know anything about peptides, and you don't
59:02Speaker 5there? That is- That's what you know meme. That is the meme of the peptide industry. Seriously, dude. And that's also why, and you guys know this because I've been saying this forever,
59:11Speaker 5and this is 1 of the things that quoted me in the CNN article is 95% of people speaking about peptides have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Is that not the facts? Literally
59:20Speaker 3have no clue. Why do you think- So that Western medicine is not trying to catch up? Exactly.
59:25Speaker 5Why are they not trying to catch up? Do you think they just don't care? Like, cause the train's coming whether you like it, docs. You know what mean? So that's actually a great question. A guy in, Costa Rica who's 1 of the world's leading biological dentists, he performs surgery for people that have, like, ruptured, you name it. Like, he's a worst case scenario guy. Right? Makes a fortune. He literally told me, met him when I was in cons for the documentary that I was in called Shield back in April, actually, actually, it was actually middle of May when I was there because I started in April in Greece.
59:55Speaker 5But he told me, he's like, Hey man, truthfully, I don't want to learn about peptides. I was like, Why would you not learn about peptides? You do oral surgery. There's so many great things you can put in the gum line and animal, blah He's like, Because bro, he literally looks at me straight up. He's a really smart guy. He's like, because I'm afraid they're going to ruin everything. He's like, I know. He said, I'm afraid they're going to eliminate what I do. And I'm like, I literally looked him straight in the eye and I go, They will. They're
1:00:22Speaker 5exactly. That's why I started talking about like, that doesn't mean that you can't learn a different thing. He goes, No, but this is the doctor's mindset. He said,
1:00:44Speaker 5you know, gray market. There's no human studies. I mean, fuck, Andrew Huberman goes out there all the time and tells people there's no studies. It's
1:00:51Speaker 5absolutely insane. Like, I've been on peptides for 24 years. Look at me. Like, I don't, I don't understand though why so many normies in the mainstream, you know, in the medical profession think that peptides are a joke. Mean, you, dude, all you guys have to do is like go on YouTube
1:01:08Speaker 5where they have like the medical, know, because now they classify in like the pharma, the pharmaceutical, and now they have the high end medical stuff and just listen to doctors talk about peptides. It's laughable. It's crazy. They actually think that they don't work. Yeah. Or they question if they work. Yes, exactly. Yeah, they induce
1:01:34Speaker 5they spent all this money going down this sick care illness medicine, allopathic issue
1:01:43Speaker 5treat the root cause. So it's a fundamental threat to their existence. 100% of this.
1:01:50Speaker 3it wasn't necessarily gonna ask it with you, but I'm so curious, I guess, for myself, because I'm frustrated by it because
1:01:56Speaker 0I get when a doctor nobody is inherently wants to be Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox,
1:02:15Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay, big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
1:02:23Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
1:02:33Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Bad. Right? Like, nobody everybody has a good heart, especially doctors, police officers. Right? But there's a line you cross where,
1:02:51Speaker 3like, if you start seeing that you're prescribing something and it's doing bad Yeah. How is that not like, you know, there's an integrity level where I know you have your doctorate in like,
1:03:03Speaker 3but you know what I mean? Like, why? I wanted to speak, why are you doing that? Like, it's not hard to see this is causing these problems,
1:03:09Speaker 5but they're still doing it. I think, honestly, dude, it's because that's how they get paid. I think the system, so what they know,
1:03:16Speaker 3like they have that barrier up that they just can't do. What if that is? Let's just talk about the facts.
1:03:25Speaker 5No. Right? So, I mean, again, you know, I think it was, I think it was Upton Sinclair in the jungle. He's like, you know, if it
1:03:33Speaker 4blocks a man from receiving his paycheck, they're never going to learn. I think the most obvious example is Purdue Pharma, all the doctors and Oxytocin.
1:03:45Speaker 3Your patients are dying people heroin. Ruining their lives. Heroin is another epidemic of opioid You know
1:03:52Speaker 5what, dude? I'm not gonna give this to people, right? Dude, I literally saw Dude, I won't say who this is, but you guys know who this is. He literally just posted because Monica sent me a screenshot of it this morning. I'll show you when he got this call, I Stand With Fowlch. Wow.
1:04:13Speaker 5But that's what I'm saying is we live in a world where people are so inverted and so inwardly turned. Yeah. It's insane. It's literally insane.
1:04:27Speaker 5like, it's like their screws came off. Oh, it's weird. You were like, you lost it, dude. Know what There's still many of them. They haven't laid them, screwed them back on. Wearing their masks.
1:04:48Speaker 3there's other companies that are like that as well listening, which there will be, give some advice because you are a guy that is definitely in the know a lot more than you and us. Can you give some guidance on how they can get through
1:05:03Speaker 3be at the top and still, because we want those companies to do well. Like, you know, instead of the guy that started out of his car and he doesn't test it. You mean?
1:05:12Speaker 5How do give some guidance. So that's the number 1 thing is make sure that your peptide
1:05:26Speaker 5Are these companies like at the tip of the sphere with their testing process and their synthesized process? Not a fucking chance. I
1:05:42Speaker 5Because again, as I told you, like, we've tested some of these companies. I've, you know, Trevor's tested them. Other people that I know in the industry have tested them and they're testing so poorly and low that you're like, okay, look, I get it. I wanna test with the USA manufacturer too, but if they're not up to snuff and they're not there yet, be cautious. Yeah. But if you are getting your stuff from China, which most people are, I mean, almost all of us are. Yeah. You know, make sure that it's CGMP.
1:06:15Speaker 5any circumstances be buying again what I call from these flip, you know, Chinese and Indian, you know, people that are sending out telegram lists and saying, Hey, I can buy all this because again,
1:06:24Speaker 5you guys know, man, even if those people are just and they are attempting to do a good job, they are sending you 100 vials. And as I said on our 1st podcast together, 80 of them are 99.9
1:06:35Speaker 5percent and 20 of them are So as you start putting them in through your, you know, sourcing, you basically have 50% of your product. It's probably fake or underdosed or counterfeit. So it's
1:06:55Speaker 5enormous, but if you're buying it from the right company, they're going to provide that.
1:06:59Speaker 5It's on you if you start selling and becoming a research use company or a compound pharmacy. Then by the way, a lot of compound pharmacies are selling bunk shit. You know, it's like Jeff Cohen says, he's like, The difference between the highest level research use company and a 503A is the integrity of the owner. There's
1:07:16Speaker 5So it's like if the owner is like spending the money to test and doing all the things that he's supposed to be doing,
1:07:27Speaker 5you lack integrity, whether you're a research use only founder or you're a 5 0 3 a founder, and you're saving money and cutting costs. That's how you do it. You don't test and you start selling bogus shit. Unfortunately,
1:07:41Speaker 3morality is pretty vacant these days. Yeah. So find a company that, like, you trust truly and, you know, look at their tests. Do you, last time you were here, 1 of the suggestions you had said was a triple testing. You said 1 of the companies that are going to make it are going to be the companies.
1:07:57Speaker 3And we heated that, like 1 of the things that we took a lot of, like Will and I sat down after, we made a lot of changes.
1:08:03Speaker 5Do you still think that that's that important? Yes. And I will actually tell you this. So obviously with American Peptide Association, we literally just had our founders meeting, which I was on the call on Monday
1:08:19Speaker 5creating that validation, that single source validation that's going to, you know, do the triple certification authentication and
1:08:25Speaker 5doing that for everybody. So my guess is, and again, this is totally in my opinion and it's completely conjecture,
1:08:35Speaker 5out there that will be verifying. And in 2027? Yes. By the end of 20 27, it might actually be 1st 0.25 of 20 28. It really just depends on how much money we can get from a lobby perspective to get that support in the house
1:08:48Speaker 5to do this. But this is where it's going go. And I mean, if you think about it, right, if let's say by this time next year, the policy, the pharmacy committee rules and they say, No human studies, are not moving from class 2 to class 1, but we're going to a patent for
1:09:20Speaker 5they want to make sure that what you're selling to the American public as a direct to direct to consumer marketer slash
1:09:33Speaker 5And I think that that's where, you know, the rubber will meet the road is you will have a lot of people that are in the space right now, clearly scammers, as you already said, who will go away. And if that happens, that's great for all of us because all the the legit people, the integral people will stay. There'll be healthier margins, they'll be safe, it'll be safer. You know, honestly, I actually think the cost will come down because the truth is, is that when there's no bogus ness and everybody's buying from 1 or 2 or 3 of the same places, whether it's in The States or China,
1:10:02Speaker 5then you can't, nobody can really fuck anybody for a price. I mean, we all know the pricing scam
1:10:08Speaker 5right now in the space is because so many people are selling fake Yep. And when you start seeing Retrootide for $59.99 or $7,099 in a bodega, we know it's true. Yeah. But the people that buy it are, you know, it's the Jack Nicholson, Tom Cruise movie, right? You can't handle the truth. The people, most people prefer to be lied to. Totally. They would rather buy a 59 99 10 mg retrutide knowing it's fake rather than spend a $149
1:10:46Speaker 4And they'll double their money. So the support group that's headed up by, or not support group, but like a watchdog
1:10:57Speaker 5government support. Yes, 100%. I mean, remember I told you guys that, you know, Callie Means told me when I spoke to him in Vegas last year at
1:11:05Speaker 5Longevity Fest, he's an amazing guy. Gave me literally 30 minutes. Let me talk, ramble. I mean, I thought he would interrupt, but he listened the whole time. And eventually he was like, look, man, I'm gonna tell you the truth. He's like, this
1:11:17Speaker 5is great. I appreciate this feedback because I didn't understand a lot of the things you told me, but he's Right now, you guys don't have a seat at the table and Eli Lilly owns the table. Yeah.
1:11:26Speaker 5Mic drop. So at that point, it was kind of like, I told Jeff, I'm like, Jeff, we gotta get a seat at the table. And guess what? The seat at the table is a lot of money. Yeah. You know, you, I mean, you want, literally, if you want a
1:11:37Speaker 5conversation with RFK's lobbyist, 2 50 ks. A conversation. That's not a conversation with him. That's a conversation with his lobbyists who can influence him. Jeez. Yeah, so that's how it works, man. I mean, that's how it works in politics. So it's like, if you want RFK, you're probably paying them out. I
1:11:54Speaker 3mean, so like you said, most people in this industry, I mean, we know you, we know Trevor, you know, Paul, like we all have the same goal, which is to help people. Like, we're like, we can smell our own kind. 100%. How do we do that? How do we bind together and like, kinda like, you know, if there's a I think it's happening right now. There's a way, just let us know. I know we- Well, I I think it's happening now by us communicating with each other. We're all sharing knowledge.
1:12:18Speaker 5We're using that information to, like, build our businesses, to insulate our business, to recession
1:12:23Speaker 5proof or future proof our businesses. So I do think it's already happening. Awesome. But I do think, you know, again, depending on what happens and again, you know, Trevor, we'll talk about it later this afternoon. He may give you a different opinion, but all
1:12:36Speaker 5we can do is go by what our attorneys tell us, right, because that's what we pay them to advise us, to give us legal counsel. Jeff says it's free.
1:12:45Speaker 5So like somewhere in the middle is where it will find. Right. And when I say free, meaning like RUO has no limits, nothing. Whereas COVID kind of thinks,
1:12:54Speaker 5you know, once this policy committee decides whether or not they move from class 2 to class 1, you know, there'll be more,
1:13:01Speaker 5restriction, there'll be more control. The process will get in. I mean, look, there is a possibility. I didn't say this, but I'll say it. There is a possibility that RFK could just come in in November
1:13:16Speaker 5We're going to start moving these things to class 1. He could. That would be yes. And that would be that
1:13:25Speaker 5shift. It would not be with what the FDA has normally done. At least he's the 1 that would do that. He's got the ball to do it. Dude, 100%. You guys saw what he said 3 days ago about,
1:13:36Speaker 5ivermectin. You know, he's like hardcore out there now saying this was a scam. Ivermectin works. You can't do this. So he's definitely 1 of us. Yeah. Jeff actually sent me a screenshot. Yeah, Jeff. He really is 1 of us. Jeff sent me a screenshot of 1 of his tweets. I think it was 2 days ago. I could look it up real quick, but it was pretty amazing what he said about something about the vaccines. But I'll just say this. Here's the other thing, and this is why I don't think that's going to happen. And by the way, Trevor's with me because we talked about this at dinner last night, but because the votes were so close. Yeah.
1:14:16Speaker 5championing of that movement. Yeah. But because they were so close, he doesn't think the RFK is going to have that kind of power and Senate. Don't forget guys,
1:14:28Speaker 5months left. Yeah, I know. And it's gone. Yeah. So like, you know, that's what I said to Trevor, I go, I don't see Democrats changing policy because again, remember, Democrats are much more
1:14:40Speaker 5got to do everything by the legal system and the legal system to change. Are you able to be 5 years? It would take 5 years of federal law changing
1:14:48Speaker 5to change how we do business because as you guys know, the FDA has no review of research. Right? So it's a separate deal.
1:14:56Speaker 5truthfully, if you put a gun to my head right now, I would tell you guys, you know, not that any of us want a fucking Democratic administration,
1:15:02Speaker 5but we would be safer in a democratic administration because of the way they because do
1:15:12Speaker 5somebody. And it can happen overnight, but I don't see, because of RFK is essentially his
1:15:20Speaker 5you know, his barrier. I don't see anything happening to us. I mean, look, Trump Rx already happened. As you guys know, that happened in November of last year and he got concessions for Lilly and for Nova,
1:15:30Speaker 5and that's what it was. And he was like, Look, we will you guys don't have to lose money. We will it'll be federal, federally incentivized.
1:15:43Speaker 5March. They have said it. Oh, did they really? March 2027. And here's what's crazy. There's 2 reasons they delayed it. So as I said, I did this giant post
1:15:52Speaker 5on Twitter like 2 weeks ago when we found this out and I was like, Wow, they smoke and mirrored all of us in this year, right? Because we all thought it was going get approved. And so everybody played the game and
1:16:00Speaker 5Lilly smoke and mirrored everybody. But the truth is, there's 2 things happening. Number 1,
1:16:06Speaker 5prong. The oral stuff is so successful right now. They're making shitloads of money. So they didn't want to approve Retatrut in 3rd or 4th 0.25 because it would have catabolized that money. Right. As you guys know, Lilly is an absolute money train.
1:16:19Speaker 5Then B, and this is probably the bigger 1, they want to still try to classify it as a biologic. They're
1:16:27Speaker 5I told you, bro. 15 years, right, versus 5. So that's a huge trillions of dollars to them. So they're going to do you think they're going get it? Well, dude, I mean, this is being recorded now, so go clip this part.
1:16:40Speaker 5But Trevor literally said to me yesterday, he goes, Well, if you're real, literally like, Who wouldn't you bribe to make sure? Right. Yeah. I mean, it's worth it. Like 20,000,000 here, 20,000,000 there, 10,000,000 there, 5,000,000 there, 6,000,000 there. And before you know it, like there isn't a single person that says you can't do it. Yeah. All mine.
1:16:57Speaker 5So, I mean, again, dude, I mean, if we really are in a 2 party system where everything is just buy,
1:17:12Speaker 5this long. Right. Dude, Jeff told us when we stopped selling Retta in December of last year, he said that Lilly was gonna approve Retta in 2nd 0.25. Yeah. So we just wanted to be off the radar. I mean, I'm not, you know, I'll be truthfully with you guys right now. We cost ourselves- Lots of money. Yeah. 25,000,000
1:17:34Speaker 5I right mean, I haven't even thought about that until I just said that to you guys. But look, man, we can talk about it on the next 1 if you want. But in that book, there's 3 products that I did want to talk about,
1:17:44Speaker 5which are all IP products, which we own the patent to. The 1st 1, as you guys know, is Clotho.
1:17:52Speaker 542. I just started that. Oh, you just started it? Awesome. Well, I was actually going to tell you guys I was going to send you guys a bunch like today. I just haven't FedExed you. Listen,
1:18:09Speaker 5of last year and I started with 2.5 mg, which of course, Mike Farber, shout out to Mike, who's our chemist that makes this, who's like 1 of the most genius guys in the world. He's like, Start at 2.5, do it for 8 weeks and then double it weekly, 8 weeks, 2.5 weekly, 2.5 weekly, and then double it, which at that point I started taking it twice a week. So it was 2.5 and 2.5. And
1:18:30Speaker 5then, you know, go on, go all at that time we thought the highest lip, the max limit was like 7.5 mg a week. So anyway, I rebuilt my upper chest. Like I have like a chest shelf wall and pec wall that I never had before from that product. It's been permanent. It's been absolutely permanent for me. Again, I'm 55, right? So like, haven't been able to build that before that. I just started it back on. I've been off of it for 64 days. I went off of it for 9 weeks,
1:19:00Speaker 5I'm taking, by the way, now 2.5 mg every day I train. So I train normally 3 days a week, but like this week, because I'm gonna train with you today, I'll probably do 4. So that's like 10 mg a week. Okay.
1:19:12Speaker 5But I would, if you just started it, I would definitely allow the album and binding construct to work in your body for at least 6 weeks before you start going up in the dips. I went to 5 because that's what Trevor told me. You're on 5 right now? Once a week. Okay. You're just taking it once a week? That's what you're taking. So I would tell you, you can do that and it's fine, but the way the
1:19:46Speaker 5depending on how much food you're eating. You can put on size. You cannot put on size unless you eat a lot. Yeah. Oh, really? Because it's gonna jack up your I fast a lot. So maybe I should. Yeah, no. I mean, if you're 5
1:19:57Speaker 5to 10 mg a week, dude, it will be hard to fast. Your body is gonna start going like, me protein, feed Yeah, me But
1:20:10Speaker 5and have put on 6 to 8 pounds of skeletal muscle. I mean, there's so many testimonials now.
1:20:15Speaker 5What I really wanna tell you guys about is the next product, which is called Lepto 3GR. And by the way, all of these are on the same
1:20:22Speaker 5album and binding construct, and you don't even have to take notes because everything's in the book. Honestly,
1:20:26Speaker 5every bit of science and everything you need to know from dosing is all in the book. And that was the reason that we published this book to get these things out there. But you should read up here.
1:20:40Speaker 5work with almost any like, you know, if you start looking at like the drug affinity complexes, his album and binder will work with almost anything. So we can take, you know, I'll start giving you guys like theoretical constructs. Like he can create a drug for ALS right now and
1:21:10Speaker 5I'm not exaggerating. I mean, this is what the pharma molecule, 100 people have told us it's worth somewhere between 12 and 25,000,000,000.
1:21:16Speaker 5Wow. Billion. Holy shit. So he's got in the pipeline, which is coming, Lepto launches on August 13. I will absolutely send you guys both. So imagine a Retrutide
1:21:32Speaker 5GLP, and GGP. Oh, wow. So each 1 binds way harder. So in doing that, you only have a vial of 100 micrograms. Sure. So you're taking like 25 micrograms a week and it's 3 times as powerful as taking 2 mg of Retta. Damn. So it's so insane in its ability to enhance nutrient partitioning and insulin signaling that bodybuilders will take it to grow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's going to dramatically
1:22:00Speaker 5all the people, have 40 people in a trial. It's been going on since June 6 or June 4, depending on when they started.
1:22:19Speaker 5We already know we're not going be able to keep it in stock because, ultimately it's the only competitor to Reta. And as you guys know, and what's happening right now, I told you this before, I know I texted you guys this, but
1:22:35Speaker 5So there won't be much Reta for much longer. So almost, I would say this, this is my opinion. In 6 months, if you buy Reta and it's not coming from a compound pharmacy, who by the way is breaking multiple felonies to make it,
1:22:46Speaker 5and you get it from a research company, the likelihood that it's fake is 90%. Sure. Because they're gonna dry up the whole entire market. Yeah. So, Lepto will likely be, until they approve it, will probably be the only competitor,
1:22:59Speaker 5you know, outside of real red eye, which of course, there's gonna be real red eye. Yeah, they'll be there.
1:23:04Speaker 5All know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like the man, the large scale manufacturers, the bodegas and all those people with right out, they will not have it. It's going to be completely shut down. So like I said, with with Lepto,
1:23:15Speaker 5you really only need like, I would say, guys like us, if we want to be absolutely yoked and shredded to put on weight, you're probably gonna need like 30
1:23:28Speaker 5really insulin resistant, metabolically deranged will probably be like 50 micrograms. Wow. But Mike, Mike already said this, like, I did a live stream with him about this, you know, because he understands the pharmacology and the dose response curve. He said, look, man, a lot of people are gonna see this at
1:23:42Speaker 5100 micrograms and be like, hey, man, I'm a fat motherfucker. You know, I took 8 mg of bread all week and I'm good. He's like, I'm a take this whole vial. He goes, don't do that.
1:23:53Speaker 5Because remember, this thing is so long acting. Oh, man. That literally by day 6, they won't be I mean, that'll be it, man. They'll be turned off. Holy
1:24:01Speaker 5shit. And you can set those up. I'm gonna say, you know what I'm 100. Yeah. So then the other 2, I'll just share with this now because this is brand new. Nobody knows, not in the book. He's got a long acting
1:24:12Speaker 5So for us, think of it as like a very powerful growth hormone. Yeah. But it's not growth hormone because it doesn't compete with the patent pathways or the trademark pathways of any growth hormone product on the in the world. Wow.
1:24:28Speaker 5And so it's like, he basically says, I don't even know what the dose is. Espresso brand new is a molecule right now, but he basically says it's like 1 dose, 1 dose a week for us would be like 2 to 2.5 IUs of genotropin in the morning.
1:24:44Speaker 5Started- Better. Did I start- Amazing. I started it on Friday and my sleep, since I've been here and I'm not sleeping, obviously, in a great bed- That's awesome. Amazing. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. So I think that's gonna be a really big growth hormone modulator. And then the other 1, and again, he's got other shit coming, but I don't think anything else will come this year, is a long acting TB-five hundred. So his belief is that might be the most powerful of all of them because remember, dude, TB-five hundred has literally like a 45 0.5 life, right? So when we take it with a Wolverine, it only is suppressing cytokines and inflammation for a very short amount of time. So with that, he's like, you could take a very small dose, like every morning, like a micro dose every morning, and you could train 3 times a day and you can't. Dude, that's really fast. Holy shit. That's awesome. That's awesome. For us, all of those
1:25:31Speaker 5through phase 1A trials in China, and the goal is to sell them to either pharmaceutical giants, like with
1:25:38Speaker 5FLGR, we have animal husbandry studies going on too, right? So the cattle companies are
1:25:43Speaker 5looking to add that to bulk up their cattle. No way. Yeah, so we actually turned down a huge offer from a cattle company to own the molecule. The other cool thing is what we did with the studies is we made
1:25:54Speaker 5sure of it that we will still be able to sell it as a research molecule, even if, say, a Lilly or Genentech or any of those companies buy it for the specific use case that they want to So
1:26:07Speaker 5we can still sell it as a research molecule. Wow. And they can still pay billions to own the patent pathway so that they can develop a drug to reverse kidney. Holy shit. Yeah. So like, it's really, really cool. The whole- I love this man. Dude, honestly, love this stuff. On the next podcast, I'll tell you like the personal story of Mike and how he came into my life because it's
1:26:27Speaker 3You know, it's like pretty amazing. He's a chemist, right? Yeah. Yeah, you were talking about hell last time. Wow, that is rad. Let me ask you this. What is Jay Campbell running right now?
1:26:42Speaker 52.5 mg on my training day. So this week I'll be doing 10, but normally I just lift 3 days a week, so it's like 7.5 mg.
1:26:49Speaker 5I wish I was running lepto, but we don't have it. It's literally, I mean, it's like top secret.
1:26:53Speaker 5It should be here on the 13th. We have to test it and all that stuff 1st, but, hopefully we're selling it by the 20th. That's, that's the D Day, right?
1:27:12Speaker 5which I run SLU-3P like once every 3 months and I'll do it. I'm actually probably 4 months because normally I'll either run SLU-1MQ, MOTS or SS,
1:27:21Speaker 5you know, and I rotate them. You know, I'm very open about this. Like, I published this, it's on my website, the 2026
1:27:28Speaker 5like SS-thirty 1, 2 to 8 mg every other day, Monday through Friday, and I'll do that for a month, then I'll rotate that with MOTS, same exact dose, 2 to 8 mg. And then I take SLU-3.0 because we have a very high dose SLU-3.0x,
1:27:42Speaker 5I'll take like 2 capsules a. M, 2 capsules in the afternoon. So it's like 400 mg. 200 mg. Yeah, so it's 100 mg per cap, but it's like the highest dose product.
1:27:51Speaker 5And honestly, since I started taking the high dose SLU-3.0, I don't even like the low dose stuff, which does work for most people, if you start taking Like the high sublingual? Sublingual
1:28:00Speaker 5or just tabs or whatever, like the low dose, you know, the 200 micrograms or 100 micrograms, like, don't even feel it. But that's not to say that when I 1st started sleep 3 years ago, I did feel the low Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it does work. But I think once your body gets used to a higher dose, your body's like, Oh, wait a minute, this is a big change. Yeah. But so then what else am I taking? I normally take Genotropin.
1:28:21Speaker 5Like, I take 1 to 1.5 IU's every single day of my life in the morning, but since Mike gave me that new long acting thing, I stopped that on- Oh, wow. Did you really? Okay. So I'm just taking that right now. I'm gonna run it for like 6 weeks to see what happens. Yeah, you do. I have no water retention. I'm still pretty lean.
1:28:35Speaker 5So, so far so good with that, but I do normally take genotropin. Of course, I'm on therapeutic testosterone.
1:28:40Speaker 5I did, I'd never since So true story, I'm also on Clotho. So Clotho is once every 2 weeks. Yeah. So my wife and I take that once every 2 weeks, but since I started Clotto, which is now almost a year because we started in September last year, I swear to God, I'm only taking like 100 mg a week of tests.
1:28:56Speaker 5You don't really and that's all you need because Floatto is increasing endocrine function, Right? So like the test that I am coming, the exogenous is like a higher dose because Float though is making everything so much better. Wow. Yeah. So Float though is an insanely powerful longevity agent. Yeah. I think I told you this on text, dude, we've had
1:29:19Speaker 5Trevor thinks that he, that's how he got his girl pregnant. 100%. From Clothes. And we're gonna hopefully put that in season 2 of the documentary and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, I think it is. I mean, it's a miracle. That's great. We've gotten at least 300,
1:29:32Speaker 5you know, written testimonials from people who said that it's the greatest thing they've ever taken. Know, aging people like in their 60s and 70s, like it's completely 1 guy is 84.
1:29:41Speaker 5He's actually, you can believe this, a quantum physicist in France, and he's been on it for 6 months now. He had CKD and he's 99%
1:29:59Speaker 3We have to have that in the study. When do you start seeing results like that? Like how long does that take? The
1:30:04Speaker 51st thing that you'll notice with Clotho is improved sexual performance because it improves endothelial tissue sensitivity. So you'll have like better erections. Your wife will get wetter faster. I'm telling you, dude, the 1st week that we did Clotho,
1:30:19Speaker 5Like, what the fuck's going on? No, because like you, it was like, she was strange to me. And and and same thing for me. Like, my deck was harder. I mean, it was like and it's like the really subtle things like that. But what I have noticed that's insane is I don't have to wear my glasses anymore. No way. It literally
1:30:38Speaker 5changed my vision. Yeah, you got to get on it for that. I mean, honest to God, I wore glasses at night,
1:30:44Speaker 5you know, because, you know, what is that called when you can't see far as nearsighted? Yeah. So, dude, I don't I haven't worn my glasses in 7 I'm driving at night. Done. Yeah. So, I mean, like, it's but it's little things like that. It's it's like sight.
1:30:56Speaker 5So it's just anti aging. Oh, dude. It's the strongest longevity agent in the world. Dude, I know my wife's listening to this. Hey, baby. She's like, give me 12 pounds. An idea. And I killed my baby. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:31:09Speaker 5Cool, man. Well, I need to start it because that's my part in time. It's amazing stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's absolutely amazing stuff. And then what else? Let me just make sure I'm not, you know, obviously, I take a lot of supplements. I have a giant supplement container that I take. I
1:31:23Speaker 5take joint, you know, stuff. I take them from Dante at True Nutrition. I take JFLEX-nine,
1:31:42Speaker 5inhibitor, which is Jardiance, I take a very low dose of Jardiance. So listen, Jardiance,
1:31:49Speaker 5we should use Jardiance because it lowers APOB and APO a little bit. Oh, wow. Yeah, so it's like clinically proven to do that. And listen, man, since
1:32:00Speaker 5inhibitor. It's amazing. Just take all you need 12.5 mg. So most of them are 25 mg tabs, but just take 12.5 in the morning. Sure. You won't initially, when you 1st take it, you'll pee more because it's dumping glucose into the urine. Oh, wow. But dude, it does so many great things for insulin sensitivity, but that's the 1 thing it does for us. Guys on testosterone, it lowers the small particles. Oh, cool. Yeah. So it's really, really powerful for that. And then
1:32:23Speaker 3starting to think I'm looking right now, like what I eat something. I still take- You've taken metformin for a long, a long time because I used to talk about that long time ago, like, when I was listening to you. Are you still 100%.
1:32:39Speaker 5which, you know, Stan Efforting does, and Stan Efforting's a good friend of mine. Shout out to the rhino. It
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1:33:17Speaker 2dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
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1:33:52Speaker 5athlete, you know, and you are doing a meet and you have to have maximum force production, you would stop a week before. But
1:33:59Speaker 5but again, it's it's such a fast acting and it's transient from a buildup standpoint, you you can get off of it in 7 to 10 days, no problem. But you take it because the number 1 thing that metformin does is it increases
1:34:13Speaker 5acromontium mucilus in the microbiome. So dude, if you're on metformin, you cannot get a bioweapon. You cannot get COVID.
1:34:23Speaker 5completely impervious. And so that's why people should take it. Granted, it does improve glucose, you know, production or not production, but suppression.
1:34:34Speaker 5you know, but it's obviously a very powerful longevity agent. Before Clotto, I think it was probably the number 1, but the number 1 reason people should take it is because it improves achromanzia and achromanzia
1:34:44Speaker 5is that like last line of defense for the gut. Interesting. You can't have SIBO, you can't have all these like candida, all these gross that go on. It kills, dude. It kills. Oh my god. Kills. That's crazy. Yeah, it kills. I have SIBO. Yeah. So, no, I mean, I should do 2
1:35:01Speaker 5AM and PM for like the next month, and I guarantee you'll be, it'll kill him. I guarantee it. And honestly, when you upgrade to 500, don't go too high because you'll be like, fuck, you you'll feel it. Because that's what it's doing is it's like killing the bad shit in your stomach. Like when you start feeling not nauseous, but you start feeling a little off, that's metformin upregulating
1:35:21Speaker 5the acromancy. Makes sense. Yeah, it's very powerful stuff. And then what else? I'm looking at my supplement container right now. I'm thinking, oh, you're gonna laugh at this. And this was Ben Pikolsky recommendation.
1:35:32Speaker 5Olive oil capsules from Carlyle. You can buy them. You can literally buy them from Amazon now and just swallow the capsules. But dude, I'm telling you guys, for the fat olive, yes, the virgin olive oil will increase our HDL.
1:35:47Speaker 5testosterone users, mild anabolic users, whatever we've been doing, you know, to look the way we look like we will lower our HDL over time olive oil capsules. I mean, look, if you wanna drink olive oil, be my guest. People do it. And people do it, but the olive oil capsules from Carlisle are insane. You guys, I swear to God, I started taking them a year ago and my HDL in my whole life never got over 42. Wow. Never. I just always had low HDL. No matter what I did, my HDL is 66 now.
1:36:14Speaker 5And in just 3 months of using, they're so dirt cheap, right? So you just take 2 in the morning, take 2 in the afternoon.
1:36:23Speaker 5The only other thing I'll mention, which is obviously a shout out to our product and again, Brian
1:36:33Speaker 5Okay. Dude, high dose bam? Really? No joke. Really? You have to take a high dose. I've never felt bam. Then you never took enough. What's that? All the products out there were 50 mg.
1:36:45Speaker 52 2 g a day. 2 g. Okay. 2 g. Yeah, all the BAM products were 50 mg. I took them too, bro. I took that Modern Amino form. Nothing.
1:36:54Speaker 5I didn't feel wasn't enough. So listen, I literally did a 4 week cycle of bam when I came back at the end of May from Europe.
1:37:12Speaker 5but you have to take a high dose. Like I would tell you right now, like our product is called BioBam. It's 2 50 mg a cap. If you guys want, I'll send you guys some of that and
1:37:21Speaker 5take 2 capsules a. M, 2 capsules p. M. To start off at a gram and then move to 2 g. And you, I mean, I'm telling you, you don't have to do anything. It burns pure fat. Wow. It does not burn anything. It will not touch muscle. It burns pure fat. The only thing that's negative about it is you will have loose stool.
1:37:41Speaker 5But I don't take that all the time. But, know, I was just thinking, I'm looking at What do you think? Would do like a 4 to 6 weeks cycle of it. Just see how lean you can get. And honestly, you don't even have to diet. I mean, you should do cardio because it's an uncoupler,
1:37:59Speaker 5was just talking to Brian about this the other day. I was like, Dude, we need to do a live stream about this because I think this might be the strongest thermogenic
1:38:12Speaker 5if you take it too late in the day, it could disturb your sleep because your temperature is definitely elevated as it's burning calories.
1:38:25Speaker 5SLU-P? BAM has to be by itself. Oh, it has to by itself. Definitely don't wanna take any mitochondrial. So no mitochondrial peptides or,
1:38:33Speaker 5so don't take MOTS, don't take SS, don't take NAD plus and don't take SLU-3PO with BAM. Just BAM by itself. Interesting. Now the only thing you do want to take with BAM and you can get it individually,
1:38:43Speaker 5or you can get it from us because we created a product for it specifically, but it's called BioCharge or BioRecharge. I'm sorry. And it's like
1:38:53Speaker 5What else is in there? It's like all the things, urolithin, a, you know, all the things that help regulate your mitochondria when you're stressing them from like high levels of mitochondrial peptides.
1:39:02Speaker 3So you definitely want to take that when you're on BAM because it's such a powerful uncoupler. So you want to kind of protect your mitochondria when you're on. There's so much talk about the SS-31 and MOTS-3. Gosh, man, we've gone back and forth ourselves. We've read about it. We had Josh Hollywood on here. He's awesome.
1:39:30Speaker 3to fix the Mardi Gras and then run to the MOTS-1C? Are Are we running them together? Does it matter? Because we've heard all kinds of stuff. We've read a lot of stuff. No, it's a great question. So I don't think it matters.
1:39:55Speaker 5you know, you're massively increasing ATP synthase, right? So like, so look, the way I look at it is this, and again, I can pull out my gods stack and show you guys and I'll send it to you guys. But like, if you're going to use those products, you want to use them pretty much in isolation, like at a month of time, right? So don't use MOTS and SS-thirty 1 together. Now, if you were going to use it together,
1:40:14Speaker 5you could, but the way you would do it is like MOTS during the week, SS-31on the weekend. Right? Interesting. But here's the thing that I just recently learned, and this is from a guy that, you know, is on Instagram and I forget his name, but dude, this guy is 1 of the most ripped and jacked humans that I've ever seen. He's like probably 47 or 48. He lives in Mexico,
1:40:32Speaker 5and he sent me a message 1 day because, know, he sees all my work and stuff like that. And he's like, Hey man, your shit is legit, but he's like,
1:40:39Speaker 5I need to tell you something about fucking SS-31. He's like, You need to do 15 mg or more a day. Yeah. What do we say? We say a lot. I've done 15.
1:40:53Speaker 5a day and you should see what he looks like. He told me, no, I've not done this yet. I'll be very honest because this is like a month ago, and I've been involved in so many other things like, know, doing FLGR and all that stuff. So I wanna give it a chance, but he said, he sent me a video of himself. I gotta look it up on Instagram, but he's like, this is what I look like after a week of 30 mg a day, 7 days, 7 days. Randy, would you me some SS-31s? His
1:41:19Speaker 5mean- Popping on. Dude, I've never seen anything like that. Wow. So again, in theory, what he's saying is true because you're massively jacking up cardiolipin,
1:41:27Speaker 5which cardiolipin is just ramping the actual mitochondrial or actually, I should say, the oxidative capacity of your mitochondria. So you think about if your mitochondria are the superpowers of your cells or the chargers of your cell and you ram jacked all this, like call it nuclear energy into it, that's why his veins are popping up. But dude, the guy tells me he's very serious about this. He's like, dude, there's nothing on this entire planet
1:41:56Speaker 51st off, you have to be muscular. He's like, you have to have already done the work, but
1:42:03Speaker 5unlike anything. So you guys are the 1st guys I've said this to, because I don't even know who this guy is. He's a fucking nobody. You know, he has no following account. He's a super intelligent guy and 1 of the greatest physiques I've ever seen. He's 49. So, I mean, the dude looks insane, but,
1:42:17Speaker 5he told me, he's like, You gotta do 1 month of somewhere between 15 and 30 mg a day.
1:42:23Speaker 5And he's like, You will, it'll be the greatest transformation of your life. So again, I'm telling you guys this- We're all writing down brand new stuff. People
1:42:30Speaker 4listening to this are gonna be like, Holy fuck. I mean, and don't get me wrong, it's obviously gonna cost a lot of money. Gonna
1:42:58Speaker 5dude. My wife is just like that too. She's constantly constantly buying stuff, and I'm like, what is this? And she's like, oh, don't worry. I I talked to Matt. Yeah. Right.
1:43:17Speaker 3mean, this stuff is awesome, dude. Like, how do you not love this stuff? Mean, it's Definitely, dude. I mean, but let's let's let's take it down for a 2nd and like what we all know. Yeah. This don't work unless you build the house If
1:43:34Speaker 5Might work a little bit, but dude, fix the house, man. Build the 1st Floor. Think the only thing as a peptide that will potentially work as a dumpster fire
1:43:52Speaker 5let's be honest and no offense if you're a dumpster fire, but like the truth is, is that you're so inflamed
1:43:58Speaker 5that you are. You and I talked about this on our 1st podcast. I mean, listen, dumpster fires are walking around in 20 fourseven state of default suffering.
1:44:06Speaker 5So wait, we got to have a lot of empathy for them, man. Right? Like these are people who literally don't even know existence
1:44:12Speaker 5other than pain. Sure. Their existence is suffering. Sure. So if you give 1 of those people, yeah, a high level of BPC- TB-five hundred, even an oral capsule, right? Like, you can give them like any of our oral products for BPC,
1:44:25Speaker 5you know, with buffers and that like carnosine and something, they're, they're, they're gonna feel an inflammation suppression instantly.
1:44:39Speaker 5But outside of that, you're 100% right. And that's why I start every podcast with people start asking me about peptides is like, guys,
1:44:52Speaker 5if you are not living insulin controlled, if you do not lift weights and do cardiovascular training, if you do not get 6 to 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep at night, if you do not mitigate EMF,
1:45:07Speaker 5being on therapeutic hormones, which I think almost anyone at this point because our society is so contaminated. Broke. So it's like if you're not doing those things and you're using peptides, then you're retarded. Yeah. I mean, you've been dying. Lose weight, dude. Exactly. If you're not hormonally optimized, I care. There's like 28 year olds that have under 300%.
1:45:22Speaker 3What is happening? 100%. You're not losing weight, dude? Or if your cortisol's 100 shot percent. 100%. That's gonna jack you up, It's not the peptides problem. Because the stores, they don't work. I'm
1:45:33Speaker 5really glad that you guys just brought that up because as I was telling you before we started doing this podcast, you know, these people at this publishing conference, you know, with lots of zeros behind their name, you know, they're looking at me, listening to me talk about this like, Holy shit, bro. Yeah.
1:45:50Speaker 5there finally something that can help me? You know? And it's like, No, dude. Like, you still have to put in the work. You still gotta do all the things. But
1:46:04Speaker 5And now we're in this society where did you guys know this? Like, dude, people don't even go to fucking Walmart
1:46:16Speaker 5Crazy. Just get up and walk them over. I always tell my wife, I'm like, I actually enjoy going to Target and buy my hygiene. Like, get me out of the fucking house. Jesus.
1:46:29Speaker 5You know what I mean? Dude, imagine. You're right. Like, getting into their car, going to a store, walking through hot temperature is like hell. Mhmm.
1:46:36Speaker 3Like, they may keel over. But, like, here's here's here's the magic, dude. Like, when you do when you start to taste empowerment,
1:46:43Speaker 3which is like, dude, when you can say no to the damn cake Exactly. Dude, it's empowerment. It's you know, he's just you dope. It's better than dope. Like It is. I am like a Jedi. You guys all ate that shit. I didn't eat it, suckers, because it's power, dude. So it's crazy. You know what mean? I literally just did a podcast. I can't think of the guy's name. It's a millionaire maker or something like that. And we talked about this study
1:47:05Speaker 5that was just released on X like 2 weeks ago. Maybe it was a month ago now, whenever I did a podcast with him, but it was literally they showed, they followed
1:47:17Speaker 5birth until they were 46 years old. They were like fraternals and identical. So it was girl, girl, guy, guy, and girl guy, and they followed them all the way. And the number 1
1:47:26Speaker 3component in life is what you exactly just said to determine success is delayed gratification. Awesome. The number 1 component. Are you that person that can delay spending the money that you just got in? Can invest for the compound fact, can avoid the 6 donuts. Most people can't. Well, let's talk about that for a 2nd because I here's how I suggest if you're listening and you struggle with that, here's how I do it. If my discipline's off, do hard shit. Like, I go jump in a cold shower. Why? Because it freaking sucks, dude. And then, like, I do for 5 days and then it's not as bad. So if my discipline's off, which it has been at times, right, I make myself a hardship. I'm gonna do a 72 hour fast. Why? Because it sucks. But dude, literally, like, you need to cultivate your mind. 100%. You need to cultivate your mind. Like, we didn't like, we all cultivated this. We've been doing it for years, so obviously it's easier for us. But don't
1:48:20Speaker 3buy the bullshit that you can't get in shape. Yeah. Like, dude, literally, like, when I see a guy out of weight overweight, listen,
1:48:30Speaker 3No doubt. They look at you like like Superman, dude. Don't be fat, Superman. Superman,
1:48:35Speaker 3dude. Like, these peptides, and there's so much. You just went through so many things that can help you. But, dude, if you don't build the 1st Floor, dude, like, you're eating Twinkies and Doritos and stuff,
1:48:46Speaker 5you never gonna get to what you just said because the truth is is you can eat that, but after you got to take advantage of the fucking opportunity to do cardio or to lift or to do something. And by the way, dude, love the fact that you fast like you do, because I'm obviously a huge
1:49:00Speaker 5faster and I'm a huge proponent of fasting and you're a muscular guy. You are living proof
1:49:06Speaker 3that you can fast for 72 hours and you're not gonna lose muscle, bro. Yes. Everybody says that. Right? I don't know. I gotta get I'm okay. You know? Bro, you don't understand. If I don't get my protein every 6 hours. Because that's what they've been told. Mean, people are still living with calories in, calories out, and all that stuff, which So true. You know,
1:49:23Speaker 3because I like a carnivore diet, I've I've been on a lot more these days, you know, but but there's
1:49:28Speaker 3so many ways to scan a cat. Like, I don't have all the answers. It works for me. I found what works for me. Yeah. And then I sit in the pocket
1:49:41Speaker 3Do something that works for you. Write it down. I'm so big on writing it down. Like, when you write something down, you're making a contract with the universe, dude. Yeah. Like, you're saying, like, I will not eat that cake. Ask Will. I have shit all over all my places. Like, it stares at me, bro. Yeah, of course. I'm gonna write it down. Like, well, dude, like, it's power to me. Like, I do is like, I don't eat. I eat carbs on my lifting days. Yeah, right. Like, I'm going to fucking eat before and after. That's what I've been doing.
1:50:08Speaker 5That's just how it is because I'm putting in so much energy when I train, you know, I'm going to do cardio post
1:50:13Speaker 5for 20 minutes or whatever. My heart rate's already elevated. And then on my 9 lifting days, I will fast 18 to 20 hours. I'll do cardio maybe 2 times, maybe 20 minutes walking on a StairMaster or 20 minutes on a bike or something, right, to deplete glycogen.
1:50:28Speaker 3Like you said, dude, there's 1000000 ways to skin. But that works, though. And if you're going to do carbs, eat before you live and after you live, because you're going to replace the glycogen. You know what? The old,
1:50:40Speaker 5you know, great strength trainer, shout out to Charles Polklin who died. You know, he literally had a statement that says, as you get your carbs when you deserve them. Dude, right? That's
1:50:52Speaker 5So like if you're lifting that day, eat carbs. If you're not lifting and you got a lot of fucking fat to lose, right? Don't eat carbs on the Before bed. Back. Exactly.
1:51:00Speaker 3And fast to get the fat off your body. Yeah. And, like, again, even if like, fasting is amazing. I mean, if you get into, what, 16 hours, you start the autophagy. Like, it's freaking amazing.
1:51:16Speaker 5Discipline. You say no to food when you're hungry, you become a damn Jedi. And that's why I wrote the book 30 Days to Shreds, because I wanted to prove that there was a way to lose 30 pounds of fat in 30 days, and you absolutely can do it. I don't give a shit how fat you are. I mean, I have thousands of people who followed that protocol.
1:51:34Speaker 5And yes, if you're really obese, it might have taken 90 days to get shredded. Right? It might have taken 120 with 15 days off in between the rotations of 30.
1:51:43Speaker 5But you can get there faster than any other path. And as you know, we don't even need peptides. You don't need drugs. You don't need growth hormone. You don't need testosterone if you're really fat. Yeah, you need to have the energy to train and to fast. But like other than that, you can get there. And you're right, dude. Like, look, man, I say this all the time and that's the leading
1:52:03Speaker 5Living Leaner, Longer, Stronger. If you want to live the longest life possible, you have to be lean. Hell yeah. You absolutely
1:52:12Speaker 5The longer you will live is based on how lean your body is. All the oxygenarians, all the blue zone people, they're mostly Asian.
1:52:19Speaker 5If you see them and you interview them, these are people that have no inflammation because they don't have any body fat. Yeah. They're very thin. They may not be like what we want. We wanna be more muscular and more, you know, called optimized, but they don't have inflammation.
1:52:32Speaker 5And it's because they have no body fat. So it's like, if you wanna live to be 100 or longer and have great physical strength, do the shit that we're talking about, Do peptides, be more normally optimized, use human growth hormone, do all those things, lift weights, but you keep the fat off because the fat is what kills you.
1:52:49Speaker 3And like, if you have a family, I'm gonna take it in a different direction for a 2nd, because I think it needs to be said, If you have a family and you're not healthy, you're cheating your family And at a
1:52:59Speaker 3I know that's pretty dramatic, but like, think about it. Like, I got a 2 year old bro. I'm 49 years old. My wife won't talk about baby 3. Babe, she's thinking about it right now. But the thing is, is like, look at it like that. If you don't do it for you and it takes you doing it for your I have a 2 year old. I want to see him walk down the aisle. You know what I mean? So I got to keep myself in shape. So if that's what it's going to help you trigger to do this, you have a damn
1:53:22Speaker 3computer in your hand. Exactly. It is chat GPT. It'll give you a diet plan. It's never been easier.
1:53:40Speaker 3known about you for a very long time. So it's such an honor for you to finally sit at this table with us. I mean, love
1:53:47Speaker 5men that lead the way for guys like us and you are definitely ahead of us. We follow a lot of the stuff that you do because of success. You wanna be successful, do it. Successful people do. 100%. And, so appreciate you, bro. No, man. I appreciate both of you guys. This was an epic podcast. Yeah. I'm literally telling you right now that probably by this time next year, you will be sitting in my studio in Tampa sweating your balls out. It's gonna be hot. It'll be cool as fuck in the room, but once you come outside, it's hot. We we accept that. I I definitely want you guys to fly in. You know, we'll hang out. We'll train. Love to. Film. Yeah. And we'll do and we'll and we'll do this, and we'll knock this out, but it's gonna probably be by it'll probably be I I I should be in my new crib by June of next year. Nice. Yeah. You know what's the cool thing about people that, guys that,
1:54:32Speaker 3guys that are elevated, they walk out. Josh hit me up when he left. He's like, I need to elevate my warehouse. And then he wasn't going, those guys, you know, talking shit. That's what men that elevate, like, we iron sharpens iron man. So that's why I love being around men like you guys. You guys get You started this, it's crazy. I mean, you started all this fitness, everything at like 41 years old. Yeah.
1:55:03Speaker 5we did have a blog, but I made 0 money. I just, you know, I put out the content and information and stuff like that, which by the way, and I should mention this really quick because it's really cool.
1:55:13Speaker 5A guy who came into my community, just like you guys got guys that come into your community about 4 years ago, you know, he completely remade himself. Brilliant guy. He's like a 32
1:55:25Speaker 5executive consultant. Right? So super smart travels all the world, runs like their Indian teams. He completely built, rebuilt himself, remade himself following all my shit. He came to me. He's been in kind of my inner circle for about 2 years, but he came to me and he's like, look, man, I'm a master with Claude. I'm gonna take all your information that you've ever published
1:55:43Speaker 5anywhere on this planet. I'm gonna scrape it together and I'm gonna put it together in a cohesive
1:55:49Speaker 5For coaches and clinicians and for laypeople. And I'm like, know, when he came to me, I already knew him. His name's Chris and he lives in Las Vegas. He's super cool guy. Was like, okay, bro. I was like, okay, cool bro. You know, thinking,
1:56:02Speaker 5what he gave me was the most insane thing. We went to He gave it to me in April. We went down to this insane, amazing content studio in Miami, and we filmed for 8 straight days, 10 hours a day. It's 26
1:56:19Speaker 5give you guys access to it, but it's going be released sometime in the next 10 to 14 days. How cool, dude. And it's, I mean, honestly, dude, when you guys see this, I mean, I get tears in my eyes when I look at it because it really was my life. Yeah, right. Because you guys got to powerful,
1:56:32Speaker 5bro. Before AI, there was no possible way to do that. For sure. No, no, no. You would have had to get every article that ever was published online, every book,
1:56:40Speaker 5you know, every magazine thing, I mean, and just like have stickies and notes. And I mean, it would have taken 20 people and probably a year. But AI scraped it all together and then he was able to do this. He's such a master of it. He put it together in this like actual cohesive course. And the coolest part about it is he put my wife in
1:56:56Speaker 5for the spiritual shit. So at the end of every module, it's kind of like Monica's minutes. That's rad. So she shares like the spiritual shit of how to tie it all in. You guys are gonna love it. Gonna say- Sounds awesome. Yeah, just sounds good.
1:57:13Speaker 5I think, by Tuesday of next week. So once I have it, I'll send it to you guys. But I definitely want you guys to go through it and deconstruct it for me because it's pretty insane. Yeah, that's great. I mean, it was intense. I mean, I was literally in Miami for 8 straight days filming from like 08:30 in the morning till literally 07:00 at night every day. Wow, that's rad, dude. So, yeah, and it's honestly, it's amazing. So much- Because it's your lab work, dude. That's powerful. It is. It really, really is. And I'm really excited because as you guys know, there's not a lot of great education for doctors. And that's the deal. They're coming to us and they're getting so much bullshit bro science online.
1:57:45Speaker 5so much of my, as you guys know, is highly researched. There's lots of citations, lots of clinical evidence and stuff like that. I feel really good about this. So I don't know where it goes and how big it gets, but again, as you know, it's just about helping people. So how many people I can help is gonna be epic. Sky's the limit, baby. For sure. All right, so I know you got your books, so give yourself a plug. Where is everybody gonna find you? Where is the easiest way to get this book? So Living Leaner, Longer, Stronger,
1:58:11Speaker 5went out Friday of last week. The paperback is the only 1 that's available right now. It's on Amazon. It's at Barnes and Noble. It's also at,
1:58:20Speaker 5So it's pretty much anywhere books are published. The digital Kindle Audible format will be available by August 20. I think you guys know Audible takes a while to format.
1:58:30Speaker 5But yeah, it's, it's a really awesome book. You know, I'll just say, you know, from a plug standpoint,
1:58:35Speaker 5this is not my favorite book personally, because I put, you know, a lot of higher level information, I think, other books that I've did, but if you don't have any awareness of the life that all 3 of us live, this is the book because it's like, like I was telling you guys, it's like the gatekeeping Jay Campbell, right? Like, it's like, this is like, wow, you know, what about gratitude? You know? So it's like there's a lot of stuff in here that, you know, I really took a lot of time to essentially make as lay as possible.
1:59:03Speaker 5Know, I don't want to say dumb it down, but like, you know, like, you know, there's just so much in this book. I mean, it really is another distillation of like 30 years of like living this lifestyle, but putting it in a way that everyone can understand. Know, I'm not talking about crazy concepts that I talked about in the other books, like she knows metabolic
1:59:20Speaker 5awakening with GHRP-9s is crazy science. Yeah, right. Right? So it is, I think- Every book has its place, man. It does, but I think this is the book that will actually allow normies
1:59:35Speaker 5man, dude. So we have been just it's been an we've enjoyed it, man. Now let's run over to Trevor Cruders podcast. What up, Trevor? Shout out. We love we love Trevor. Of course. I've been going on his podcast on the 17th, I think. So That's awesome. That's awesome. It's a small world. Yeah. No. No. We all love each other. We'll love each other. And I'm gonna see you guys later. Right? Yeah, man. So, that was amazing. Hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. Anything else there, my brother? Nothing. Nothing else. That was an epic podcast. Thank you guys so much for having me. And, let me just say, you know, for the audience,
2:00:10Speaker 5and you can get a downloadable PDF copy of any of the books I've ever written and, you know, probably,
2:00:16Speaker 5my new content team is building a new site or a new section on that site for podcasts like this, so I'm sure that this won't be there right away. Yeah, we'll and we'll make that easy to find for you guys. Awesome. Yeah. Alright. Well, we will catch you on the next round. Later. Peace, Gone.