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0:24Speaker 0gonna be a good podcast, man. It's something I know you and I like to talk about. We've been doing it a long time, just kind
0:31Speaker 0of before we started recording, we were just trying to figure out what should we talk about. There's so much.
0:36Speaker 0So for those of you, just to let you know, to be clear, we are not doctors, we don't pretend to be doctors. We're just 2 dudes that have been doing supplements and trying different things for a very long time since we've helped a lot of people with these types of things as well. So just for fun, we're not doctors, so you should know that.
0:56Speaker 0of approach on this. I know it's Peptide of the Week podcast, but we also talk about other supplements that are important as in testosterone
1:06Speaker 0We are huge fans of that, if you didn't already know that. And we're going to throw an HCG
1:16Speaker 0we're going to take a little bit of a different approach. We're going to put the peptides on hold for this
1:30Speaker 0why should any man take it in their specific age? What would you say? Why should somebody that's not on testosterone,
2:23Speaker 1Your brain, you won't be able to sleep as well. You'll have a little more anxiety. Right? It'll affect your mood. You will not be as happy. Like, we actually
2:43Speaker 1it can change your life if you're deficient. Ask a lot of people who are extremely deficient in how this has saved
3:01Speaker 1you know, there's a different there's a age. I so so for talking about this, it's important just to note, you know, us men,
3:08Speaker 1we have a lot of natural testosterone, and we have a little bit of estrogen, kind of opposite for women.
3:52Speaker 1your natural output is gonna slow down because your body thinks you have this much. It doesn't wanna keep creating a whole bunch if you already have a whole bunch. Again, it doesn't want to do anything redundant.
4:15Speaker 1I think that there are a ton of horror stories out there. Man, my experience is telling me a lot that these horror stories aren't as true. Like, men bounce back a whole lot better than,
4:32Speaker 1bouncing back and kind of re after they stop you know, when they get off the testosterone, they'll, their natural test will build back up. Now, there are horror stories out there that are true. Right? There has been a person that has injected testosterone once, and they have never ever created
5:14Speaker 0I'll tell a little story about what led me onto this whole track of testosterone replacement. Anybody that has followed any of my channels knows I got sober at 33,
5:28Speaker 0And when I got sober, I dove headfirst into it. I just was just, know, eating right, working out, lifting weights, all the above, right? And
5:42Speaker 0you know, for me at least, and the worst part was I felt like absolute crap, man. I thought something was wrong with me. I literally was starting to think, Man, I must have done something with my drug abuse and all that stuff. I started to think there was something wrong with me. And true story there, I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast and he was talking to 1 of his comedian
6:06Speaker 0It'll change your life, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, Wow, I never even thought that. You know what I mean? So lo and behold, I went in and got my testosterone and just my hormones checked, I was around 300.
6:25Speaker 0give or take, probably about 39, give or take. And 1 of those stories, man, it changed my life. It literally makes you feel like a man again. You feel your cloudy headedness goes, your sex drive obviously increases, but that's not even the best part. Your vigor comes back.
6:46Speaker 0if you're low testosterone, you're going to have an uphill climb trying to lose weight, especially if you're 40.
6:56Speaker 01, you probably feel like absolute crap like I just told you. That is not how we're supposed to live, gentlemen. It is not how we're supposed to live. It is an easy fix.
7:08Speaker 0Go get your testosterone or go get your hormones checked, man. Just at least know where you're at. Chances are you are going to have low testosterone.
7:16Speaker 0Why? It's just common today, man, especially with the food we eat and just some of the toxins in the air. Let's just be honest, I won't go in left field, I'll spare you, but our testosterone
7:29Speaker 0and that is what it is. I had a fitness channel, so I had a very eye opening experience with this. I worked with a lot of men,
7:47Speaker 0of them, I would say probably 60% were already on testosterone. So a lot of them already were ahead of the curve with that, but the ones that weren't, this is a true story. I would have them get their blood work tested, done,
8:15Speaker 1And, you're right. I mean, you do not have to live like that, guys. No, you do not. It's an easy fix. Yeah. And it's for reference, I guess this is a lot of people are going to their doctors, right? So generally as
8:55Speaker 1their doctors, they're like prescribing, like, they're not allowed to prescribe anything unless you're like below 2 50 or something like that. And at 2 50, you're miserable. You haven't had an erection in a month. You
9:10Speaker 1your total testosterone is not really the most important part. Right? You should be getting a total testosterone
9:20Speaker 1reading because that's what matters, really. Your free testosterone is the only stuff that you can actually use that can bind to your receptors and
9:32Speaker 1that is generally, I try to keep mine about 800, 900 to 1000. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I know doctors that that's their goal for patients.
9:44Speaker 1I know some people try to keep it, you know, doctors will try to keep it lower. There is a scale. You can find a scale on the internet somewhere that says, at a
10:05Speaker 1stressors, right? I also have been sober for 5 years or so, and drugs and alcohol just destroy, especially opiates, destroy
10:15Speaker 1And it's tough to get back, and it's tough it's like a domino effect, dude. The more and people
10:21Speaker 1the less testosterone you have, the more estrogen you have, the more fat you have, and then the harder it is to get your testosterone
10:26Speaker 1up, right? And the harder it is to get your fat down. And so it just that divide just keeps growing. I
10:32Speaker 1suppose here is important things to know when you create when you inject testosterone.
10:57Speaker 1There's no reason a man should have any higher estrogen than you have. Now, you need to have a little bit.
11:16Speaker 1excess water retention or just general acne, even a lot of your shoulders and back. There's no reason to have that, folks.
11:29Speaker 1And that's an easy, easy fix, right? And when left unchecked, it can get bad. And that's where a lot of these horror stories come from. So, it's just out of ignorance.
11:40Speaker 1They're not bad. I see people on the internet bragging about, Oh, I've never, know, bodybuilder. I've never taken an estrogen blocker. Bullshit. I
11:48Speaker 1don't know. I mean, I've worked with thousands of- Liar. Never seen anybody running over 500 megas of tests, like, not need an estrogen blocker. Oh, man. No way. DBAW.
11:58Speaker 1Yeah. So just like, I don't know, don't believe in the hype. Do but everybody's body is different,
12:18Speaker 0Just know these things take time. I would advise you to dig into this and study it. We've been doing it for a long time and
12:27Speaker 0There's a lot of trial and error that comes along with it because we've said it so many times, but it takes
12:35Speaker 0a while for us to find our sweet spot. I've said it numerous times, my sweet spot is around the 900 mark,
12:41Speaker 0as Will just said, generally speaking, testosterone around a 25 give or take, roughly, it seems to be when I'm running the best.
12:53Speaker 0my testosterone converted to estrogen from right away. I was highly, highly gynocholamosia.
13:01Speaker 0worked around that for years and I just had to take time to figure out that sweet spot. I mean, ask Will. I mean, we work together on it because we've been buddies a long time
13:26Speaker 0in handy because you're injecting hormones obviously into you and you're going to change your body and that's just what's going to happen.
13:37Speaker 0You inject hormones, you got to kind of get them into that sweet spot And that's going to take time, man. It's just the way it is.
13:44Speaker 0But once you find that sweet spot, I'm 48 years old, I'm in the best shape of my life, and I've been in great shape since
14:00Speaker 0So you can do that too, man. You are not supposed to feel like shit. You are not supposed to feel like shit, gentlemen. You just got to get your hormones in line. If you're overweight, if you feel sluggish and you can't, you have no vigor, you're cloudy headed, most likely have low testosterone,
14:15Speaker 0so you need to go get your blood work and check it out. Know what I mean? And you're not going to be able to lose that weight unless
14:26Speaker 1And like, some people, hey, you just might be like J. D. We're like, you just can't do more than 200 mg
14:34Speaker 1You just can't be like, your estrogen is just too crazy, and that is what it is, man. No matter how many estrogen blockers you take, it won't
14:45Speaker 1Still find it works. Mostly, indeed, less is more. Less is more, less is more. Most people are just blasting way too much. And I mean, I still there's a limit of how much you can I mean, the testosterone has to connect to your androgen receptors, right? They're only so big. They're only so much testosterone can actually grab on. And so,
15:12Speaker 1can a person actually receive? And that's a and that's really high-tech. That's a lot. People do a lot more than that. But yes.
15:21Speaker 0So I think we wanted to talk about different esters. And- Yeah. Let's talk about some esters. I was gonna say that. Let's you loved you're you're good at that. Let's break down the esters for people. Sure. So, guys, every you'll see testosterone come in different
15:49Speaker 1then the ester that it is wrapped in, which is essentially the delivery system which determines how fast or slow
16:13Speaker 1muscle can only handle a certain amount of testosterone in a certain ester. So test propionate,
16:26Speaker 10.5 life. So there's still a little bit lingering in you, but you're not really feeling it.
16:31Speaker 1And then there's test propionate, which is more popular. It's 24 to 48 hours, in you and out of you. Then phenylpropionate,
16:38Speaker 1which is 3 to 4 days. Okay? These are all up for debate too, but these are just general numbers. You ask 30
16:55Speaker 1Then you have your test endothate and test siponate. Test siponate is generally what every doctor in The United States prescribes.
17:48Speaker 1Think of this, guys. Like, it's all the same drug. There isn't some people who say, Well, I heard this 1 doesn't aromatize. Bullshit. They all it's the same damn drug. The only difference is how fast it gets in you and then how fast it gets out of you. Now,
18:02Speaker 1the faster esters are always going to be dosed lower. So a test propped is going to be dosed at 100 mg/ml
18:17Speaker 1But if it's that fast getting out into you, our body does not have time to filter anything out, and you're getting about 100%
18:26Speaker 1It may hurt a little bit more, too. Faster esters tend to hurt more and blends because you're putting in 2 different, 3 different esters.
18:49Speaker 1Those are go your body since it's taking 6 days to get in you, your body is filtering a lot of that out. So, really, you're probably getting only about 60%
19:00Speaker 1it actually equals basically a bottle of test propionate. So, people say, Well, shit, testcipionate, I get twice as much.
19:07Speaker 1Why wouldn't I do that over test prop? Sorry, guys. They equal about the same thing. Same thing with, you know, Mastron E versus Mastron P. Trend A is Trend E. You will always see the long ester is dosed about twice as high as the fast ester. But guess what? In the end,
19:23Speaker 1when it all boils down, you're getting about the same exact amount of the actual drug. Now, the longer the ester, okay, it's going to compound on itself. Now, even though, for example, siponate,
19:36Speaker 1you should say, Hey, a lot of doctors say, Just do it once a week, right? Hey, it's in you for 6 days, okay? But if you look at a graph, right, it's in you, and then it is slowly dissipating,
19:45Speaker 1right? And then at the end of those 6 days, then we do it again. That's not good. We do not
19:51Speaker 1want peaks or valleys in your hormones because everything is predicated on another thing,
19:56Speaker 1and it's going to change a whole bunch of different hormones down the line, and that's not good news for you. So even though it's in you for 6, 7 days, I would still do that testiopianate,
20:05Speaker 1testi twice a week. So we want these little peaks and valleys. Now, it will start to compound
20:12Speaker 1So after about a month, your testosterone levels will be higher than, let's say, you did test propionate
20:22Speaker 1Cool. That'll be higher. You'll get a little bit better results, right? But guess what? Guess what lingers also is any side effects, right? The estrogen buildup will build up more and more and more as you get down the road, as opposed to a fast ester in you, out of you,
21:03Speaker 1right now, immediately, 24 hours, 2 to 3 days, then hits you, 4 to 5 days, then hits you, and then 7 to 10 days.
21:26Speaker 1whereas the slower, longer esters, twice a week, but I wouldn't do them once a week. The only reason doctors say once a week is because people don't like stabbing themselves with needle, no doubt. Nobody does. But it's an easier sell if you only have to convince somebody to do it once a week. Right.
21:41Speaker 0I don't think it's as effective. You do it once a week though. Yeah, I knew I've changed it. I've gone to Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I
21:54Speaker 0Know, if you're starting to if you're doing pinning Monday, Wednesday, Friday, which I have changed now, currently doing,
22:00Speaker 0because this is a better way to do it, but I'll do that for a while until I just get so tired of pinning Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then I'll just go to once a week. But, know, for somebody, if you're like me that is gyno
22:12Speaker 0it is a little bit better to spread it out because you're not getting any big blasts in 1 day.
22:17Speaker 0At least my experience with it, you got a little bit less throughout the week. You're doing a little bit less of it. So that will help for people that are gynoprone like me.
22:25Speaker 0I do notice a difference when I do it once a week. I did that for a long time just because I was just sick of pinning so much, so I just would do it every Monday, keep it simple.
22:42Speaker 0I don't get that type of, I don't get my testosterone from the pharmacy anymore because it's seed oils. But anyways, when I used to go to the doctor for that, he suggested
22:52Speaker 0which I had never heard. And then I went home and researched it, and there's good proof that it works well, you know, I mean, but I'll be honest with you, did it for a little, I don't even know, maybe did it for like a week.
23:03Speaker 0Ejecting oil into your stomach sucks, so I will never do it again. But some people like to do that. I've done it mainly, I think, in my top part of my buttocks.
23:13Speaker 0I did that for years. Now I'm kind of tired of that, so I've been pinning back part of my shoulder with a small little shoulder pin. Anybody that follows my channels, I just dropped a video on that today
23:51Speaker 0into the vial, you wanna run it under warm water. I'll leave it in the sink for a minute or 2 and forget about it and then come back and inject it. Honestly, since I've been doing that, I don't ever really get PIP.
24:02Speaker 0But if you don't do that, you probably will. It's part of the game. What do you think about PIP? I think that so it all depends. Just
24:17Speaker 1Just put it in some weird spot and all of a sudden, 1 day you got PIP and it's just like pain at
24:38Speaker 1Usually, a big reason people get PIP is their stuff is dosed too high for the ester. So if somebody were to do test E350,
24:59Speaker 1it's usually it's not going to be 1 ester of 400. It's going be 200 of sip, 200 mg of test E because that's really all we can
25:14Speaker 1you're gonna you might get a welt or red spot. People don't realize it needs to get deep in your muscle. I'm just pointing at my shoulder because that burched, but right? Glut.
25:31Speaker 1dude, I when I do my injection, do it. I just kind of put my knuckle in whatever in the muscle and just and rub it in. Right? Goal is to and then go be active. You know? Do not just inject and then lay down and do nothing. Think about it. You're injecting this foreign oil into your body, right? You got to, like, get it dispersed in you, into your blood and move it. So,
25:51Speaker 1I'm always going to inject, rub it in and go to the gym. My blood, you know, my heart starts pumping, blood starts pumping, and that stuff just gets dispersed throughout my body.
26:02Speaker 1You know, another thing I know that you had you used a pellet for a while. Like, here's another method. I'm starting to see a lot of, like, older women doing testosterone
26:16Speaker 0Even- The place when I went to get that, because I didn't, I was just not wanting to pin all the time. I'd read about it and I'm like, all right. So I went to, and my buddy had suggested that he was doing it and he loved it. And
26:26Speaker 0so I went to this place, this doctor, and it was mainly for women, know, it's just a replacement for women.
26:32Speaker 0But anyways, I got the pellets and I did it for a bit. My body, for some reason, would have rejected and tried to push them out. He said, It's very, very uncommon.
26:40Speaker 0Of course, that was me. So that was a pain in the ass. The injection site would literally cut
26:48Speaker 0But those little pellets would try to get out for whatever reason for me. So I stopped doing that. I didn't want to deal with that. But there's a lot of good luck with that. If you're somebody that doesn't want to inject, you go to a doctor,
26:57Speaker 0it takes literally 5 minutes. You are implanted with pellets and they slowly release into your body. If you're an active person,
27:18Speaker 1opinion. Yeah. I mean, they'll work they'll work, but not not very well at all. Right?
27:29Speaker 1who just cannot take as much testosterone as a man. But for a man, it's really gonna not do much.
27:35Speaker 1Probably the pellet too is like, cool, it's implanted and now you're stuck. There's no adjusting.
27:40Speaker 1Like we said, every person- You're in you. Is different. Like, there's no way to go increase or decrease the dose.
28:00Speaker 1Those are just made naturally, in my opinion. I mean, those will never ever ever take you to, like, a super physiological
28:18Speaker 1That will yeah, cool. It'll bump him up a little bit, but it's never gonna take you kinda past where your natural threshold should be for your weight. Waste of money? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think that,
28:35Speaker 0it. I mean, there's natural ways. I mean, diet's huge. If you're overweight, that's gonna affect you for sure. I mean, even like as woo woo as this sounds, walking outside with your feet on the ground because of energy, I've read stuff about that, whether you believe it or not, I've just read that.
28:51Speaker 0High fat diet helps, exercise, lifting heavy weights, those are things that can naturally increase your testosterone. Now, if you are at a like 300, will it get you to 900?
29:08Speaker 0just get on testosterone, man. Like, dude, I don't know why you're fighting it. Now, I'll tell you this,
29:13Speaker 01 of the questions that I get almost daily through my DMs are, Can you come off of it? I was told you can't. Once you start on testosterone replacement, you can't. And that's not true. I know tons of men that have been on testosterone replacement
29:26Speaker 0for years that come off because their brides want to get pregnant and that's the way that they go about it.
29:43Speaker 0But you can, so I don't know where that big myth Now, if you've been on testosterone replacement for 20 years, that probably
29:54Speaker 1But again, everybody's a science project. It's going to be different. I mean, I think it comes from like, look, dude, if you're on the longer you're on, okay, and the higher dose that you are on,
30:05Speaker 1yeah, there's again, there is a little bit there's a letdown when you stop. Right? Because this is now telling your body to slow its natural production down. So
30:27Speaker 1But there are drugs to take, HCG and then clomiphene, that really work. There's what we do, like, for a post cycle. Okay. A post cycle would be pretty much the same thing as if you're on long term TRT. You wanna get off? Cool, but do some things to help you not feel that lull, that drop down let down period.
30:48Speaker 1The sex drive might be effective for a week if you do HCG and clomiphene correct. We'll get you right back get you back up. You may not be as, you know, as great as when you were on it. Okay? That's the whole point of why would you be on it if you could not do it naturally. But you
31:03Speaker 1can come off of it. I know tons of people do. And that and then and at that point, it's actually even more important to lift heavy and keep eating correctly.
31:12Speaker 1Well, I understand, but it's hard because you just have Yeah. So the natural things that you can do lifting heavy. Right? Well, I guess here's the think of us back when we were in let's say 300 years ago, 400 years ago, our testosterone levels not that they were doing blood tests then, but
31:29Speaker 1we had such higher testosterone. Okay? Not because there wasn't so many processed foods, etcetera, but also we're just lazy and and
31:41Speaker 1take a shower in freezing ass stream and we had to go chase animals down and kill them with our bare hands,
31:48Speaker 1we had to have sex in cold weather, right, in your little, like, hut, men were virile and had good natural testosterone. Okay? Yeah. Now that life's all comfortable and cushy,
32:28Speaker 0replacement is 1, it will help your balls from shrinking because as Will said, when you are injecting
32:35Speaker 0it tells your balls, I don't need to do this anymore, so I'm good. So they start stop working probably,
32:50Speaker 0Secondly, for any man like myself that is on testosterone replacement and trying to stay fertile and kind of keep that fertility,
33:02Speaker 0I've talked about it numerous times, but I've gotten my bride pregnant twice while staying on testosterone.
33:08Speaker 0Many think you cannot do it. I've done it twice. And Will and I have worked with numerous of our buddies and many other people to help them while staying Whether
33:20Speaker 0can, it can be done. PEG is a great help. Now you want to run higher doses and my opinion, we might have a different opinion,
33:35Speaker 0IUs a week. Like if you want to get the job done a little bit quicker, in my opinion, I would say go to 1000. Now, that's contingent upon pocketbook because you
33:50Speaker 0But that's what I've done. I'd probably do about 7 50 myself when I've tried to get my wife pregnant when I'm running it. It took me a good 9 months, both times to run it consistently.
34:10Speaker 0to keep my fertility, and then I kind of take a month, maybe 2 off, and then I run it again for 2 months. When I'm trying to have a baby, which we've been talking about it, if we really decide that's the role, I will
34:22Speaker 0be on it for a good 9 months at higher doses. I run about 500 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday when I'm on it. Agreed. Got anything on
34:32Speaker 1I think that there is a difference in my, you know, that between an actual like post cycle
34:53Speaker 1Honestly, the more the better, right? I guess the more the better. If you could do 1000 IUs 3 times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, good for you. And I would do about 25 mg of Enclomiphene
35:13Speaker 1your wife's pregnant at least. Yes. You'll have a better, faster chance if you come off of the testosterone. But hell, I mean, I'm 9 for 9 of my friends wanting to get their rights pregnant,
35:31Speaker 1and you're right, I guess. So TRT, if you're on long term TRT, I agree. I would do I wouldn't run it every single week, you know, for 10 years.
35:48Speaker 13 weeks and then give it a 2 week break and then do that again. Okay? Like 3 weeks, 2 weeks off. 3 weeks, 2 weeks off. If
35:59Speaker 1getting off of TRT or just getting off of a cycle, okay, same basic principle. This is still a
36:23Speaker 1would be taking Generally, Enclomiphene comes at 12.5 mg pills. I would say week 1, 3 pills a day. Week 2, 2 pills a day.
36:43Speaker 1and you should feel pretty damn good. Shouldn't have much let down, and you should keep about 95%
36:59Speaker 1your cortisol is going to scream to the top. Your muscle is just going to disintegrate
37:04Speaker 1and you will lose everything you tried for. Another thing is also when coming off completely,
37:09Speaker 1you ought to wait 10 days or so before you really start the HCG or the enclomiphene because the point is
37:16Speaker 1you need to let that testosterone get out of you before your nuts are even willing to listen to something to wake them up. So get it out until the nut's like, All right, dude, I need some help. And then you give them the Time to work. Yeah.
37:46Speaker 1Feel them again. It's hard to explain, but it's just what happens. You just start to feel alive again.
37:52Speaker 1True story. People ask me about like, Hey, should I take the HCG throughout my cycle? No, that answer 1 is no, because you're giving yourself so much tests and other things that
38:02Speaker 1your nuts are not listening. They're not being willing to wake up. No matter how much you do, they're not gonna they're not gonna change. Now, I also say, Hey, people doing 16 week cycle, right, in the last, like, 3 weeks,
38:12Speaker 1they'll tell me, Hey, I just don't feel nearly as good as when I started. Well, well, basically, because your natural production has just shut
38:21Speaker 1down. Right? It's down to the floor, so you not only you have no natural production, but you're still giving yourself a lot.
38:28Speaker 1I would say that if there is an acceptable time to run HCG while on cycle, it needs to be in the last 0.25,
38:47Speaker 1Yeah, dude. I don't know, man. A good sense of health is like, generally, man, you should be having erections when you wake up in the morning.
39:07Speaker 0That's true. I mean, that's reading your body, man. So if like you're not, so that's telling your body. I mean, again, think it's easier. Anybody that's not on testosterone in their 40s,
39:17Speaker 0you feel like shit, you're tired, cloudy headed, you don't have vigor, you don't have sex drive, it's easy math. If you have fat around your nipple and area, that's estrogen,
39:26Speaker 0or it be. It could be high estrogen, again, like you said. I mean, these are things that your body just can
39:49Speaker 1Huge problem. I mean and, you know, people say, hey. Well, shoot. Then you you gotta Depression.
39:54Speaker 1You know, you gotta do something the rest of your life. I wanna do it. Well, okay. Cool. I don't know. Personally, it's worth it for me. That's fine. I plan to do this as until I'm an old man. Yeah.
40:08Speaker 0Yeah. Things in life- I like feeling good. I like being able to get and stay in shape. Like, for example, remember how easy it was to stay in shape at 30? You're basically putting like the amount of testosterone that's in your body at 30. Remember how easy it was to lose weight at 30 and like stay in shape? Well, you can have that. It's easy. So the reason you can't because your testosterone levels plummeted and your hormones are off. So you can get back there very easily, gentlemen. And if you're going to tell me, well, it's going to kill me 5 it's going to take 5 years off my life. Oh, well, I didn't want those last 5 years anyway.
40:47Speaker 0Right. So I don't know, man. I think we covered a lot. I mean, we could probably talk about this particular subject forever, but I know the
40:53Speaker 0DMs that are flying through have been inundated with testosterone questions and PIP and stuff, so we wanted to kind of take a hard left away from the peptides for 1
41:01Speaker 0episode to talk about testosterone replacement, because getting back to peptides, very simply, they are amazing, we love them, they are enhancing your body in all forms contingent upon what peptide you take, but your hormones have to be optimized 1st
41:18Speaker 0You are low to 300 testosterone run peptides, they'll probably work a little bit, but not like they can.
41:31Speaker 0I don't know, some pointed questions about more side effects and different drugs that combat certain side effects, etcetera, etcetera. Maybe we'll talk about that. Maybe you'll get some- We'll get some questions on the Q and A probably from this episode, which we welcome them, man. And again, we don't pretend to know all the answers to all of it. We've just been doing it for, as you can tell, a long time and a lot of trial and error on ourselves. Like I said, with my gynecomastia,
41:53Speaker 0it's taken me a long time to get that under wraps. I was heavily You know what mean? So it took years,
41:58Speaker 0literally years to get it really to where I don't even really take an AI anymore, believe it or not.
42:03Speaker 0And that's really huge for me, but it takes a long time to kind of understand your body, man. Yes. And, you know, we're talking about
42:11Speaker 1we're talking about this. Everybody, you're your own person. You do what you do is what we've is what we choose to do. The 1 thing that and I am happy to talk about this because I have heard too many times people come up to me and go, Will, you've, like, saved my life. I can't believe
42:26Speaker 1oh, I cannot believe that I was living and prepared to live the rest of my life like that. Right? It's been amazing. Hey, don't tell anybody that I'm taking this. Okay? It's like, You fucking
42:35Speaker 1asshole, man. You're going to tell me something just saved your life, but just don't let anybody else know so
42:48Speaker 0That's getting a little better, man. But you wanna have a good time, look through my DMs, man. This guy's on testosterone replacement.
42:59Speaker 0Is that an attack or is that a culpa, man? I don't know. That's because I'm being smart. You should too.
43:09Speaker 0can go on more, but hopefully this is helpful. Yeah, you know, this is just to kind of let everybody know, you know, the podcast is growing, so we want to kind of move some things around, I think, to what's going to be helpful for the podcast to grow.
43:20Speaker 0And just in itself, I think it's going be a better flow. So what we're going to be doing
43:29Speaker 0and we will be doing the Q and A on Thursday, dropping it on Thursday. So that will be starting next week, and I think that's gonna be a better flow.
43:39Speaker 0So I'll be good with my social media channels on putting the link out there for the Q and A. I'll even actually probably post that today just for fun.
43:47Speaker 0And that's what the new protocol is gonna be. I'm assuming there's gonna be a lot of questions from this episode leading into the Q and A, but like I said, we welcome it, man. We love this stuff.
43:56Speaker 0Yes, sir. You got anything else, big dog? I think that's it, man. That's all I got. All right, guys. We will catch you on the next round. Take care. Good night.