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1:38Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast.
1:42Speaker 2I am your host in
1:44Speaker 2a little bit overcast Y Cabo, Santa Lukas or Los Cabos as they say here. Will is in the studio like always. My co host, Mr. William T. Haas. What's up, dude? What's going on, man? It's, it was raining here yesterday morning also. Oh, really?
2:00Speaker 3Yeah. Yeah. So Don't wanna come back. Is it nice out now? It's still nice out. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. It always, like, even if it was even though it was raining in the morning, right, it's always foggy here in the morning. It's the end of June. It's now July.
2:13Speaker 3Every morning, it's foggy,
2:15Speaker 3and it usually clears up. Yeah. And I hope so because my my girl and River and a and a friend is, they're going to Wild Rivers today.
2:22Speaker 2Oh, yeah.
2:24Speaker 3Which is like a water park, so
2:26Speaker 3hopefully, it's not raining on. But still, it's warm outside.
2:29Speaker 2Yeah. And always, like, you know, so we, it's funny. We were staying at this resort and
2:35Speaker 2it's like, it's literally,
2:38Speaker 2like, basically
2:40Speaker 2everybody here has kids almost like our age. It's perfect. It's it's not packed,
2:46Speaker 2so it's not even like people like the pool is not like, oh my gosh, like overcrowded.
2:50Speaker 2You know, it's a nice hotel.
2:51Speaker 2And,
2:52Speaker 2but it's been funny because we've been, you know, if we're getting coffee, we're talking to the parents, we're getting food, you know, and like, all
2:59Speaker 2the parents are like, just like Alyssa and I, where it's like,
3:02Speaker 2we love our kids.
3:04Speaker 2They're awesome. But holy shit, 5 and 2 is like, bro, it's like
3:10Speaker 2frazzled. Like we met this couple from
3:13Speaker 2Los Angeles actually, and
3:16Speaker 2we kept running into them and stuff.
3:19Speaker 2Were, went, listen, I had a babysitter 1 night and we went to dinner, just she and I, and then we saw her them 2 come in with their boys, and then we saw them the next day. And Alyssa goes, How was dinner? And like, she was just like, Oh my God. Like, I was right across
3:35Speaker 2my kids. You know, it's like
3:38Speaker 2it's so funny. We were talking, like, Alyssa and I were talking. I think it was last night or the night before, and, like, we were just like,
3:44Speaker 2it's amazing. We love these kids, but, like, it's a hard time right now. Just we're gonna miss these times. We're gonna miss these We're gonna miss these them.
3:51Speaker 2It's a lot going on, dude. I have a teacher. Do
3:56Speaker 2they have daycare at the resort you're at? They do. Yeah. Like, so they have a rad, like a that's why Alyssa does all this research,
4:02Speaker 2and she does. Like, their kid's center is awesome. They do all these, like, events and stuff for Jack, so she loves that. But Mason's too, so he can't go until you're 4. 0. So we have to actually hire a babysitter.
4:13Speaker 2And so he's hit or miss. Like, he's got, you know, some Mexican gal coming he's never seen, wants to watch him. What is going on? Where are my parents? You know? So we like got a babysitter yesterday, like, just gonna be laid by the pool and read a book. I got 20 minutes, dude. And then- Yeah. He was screaming, losing his mind, so we had to go pick him up.
4:33Speaker 2That ended up.
4:35Speaker 2Ended up Part of being a parent. Yeah. That's good. Part of being a parent. I was saying to the other, like, you know, like, and then you look at your kids, though, bro, like, they're just playing in the pool, like smiles to ear to ear. You know what I mean? Yeah. So those are the moments, but then they start to start screaming, and you're like, you forget about those moments quick. Yeah. And they're still just innocent and don't know a difference. You know, it's not like their fault when they're screaming
4:59Speaker 3until they get older, and then you're like, you little punk. You did that on purpose.
5:03Speaker 3You know
5:05Speaker 3you know what you're not, what you're supposed to do and what I'm not supposed to do.
5:10Speaker 3Anyway
5:11Speaker 2It can be rough. That is for sure. But,
5:14Speaker 2I mean, we're blessed. We're in Cabo.
5:17Speaker 2Life is all good, dude. Life is is No complaints, right?
5:20Speaker 2Right. Absolutely We no
5:22Speaker 2have,
5:23Speaker 2it's been great. I posted something on Instagram just about Will and I, my journey, just like where we started and before I even really started the fitness channel, which kind of was a genesis of everything. And when I was in your, bro, I was in your garage
5:39Speaker 2when you had
5:40Speaker 2Yeah. A weight room in
5:42Speaker 2Remember that? Uh-huh.
5:44Speaker 2And I interviewed you and and we were talking about, oddly, MK-677
5:49Speaker 2and TRT,
5:50Speaker 2and we were just doing an interview. And
5:53Speaker 2at that time, I was like, should I take my shirt off? Like, it was so new. Like, I had no channel. And like, I was interviewing you and you're like, what? I'll just take the shirt off, you know? And like, I'm interviewing in your garage.
6:04Speaker 2Lighting is horrible, you know?
6:07Speaker 2So Andy kind of showed the progression of like some of the guests that we've had along the way. Cool. So we have
6:14Speaker 2Josh Holyfield,
6:15Speaker 2which is coming in next week to record, I believe on Wednesday.
6:19Speaker 2So that will drop the following Monday. I know there's a lot of people that are big fans of him. We're fans of him. He's a good dude, we like his stuff. So he's coming in next week, live. He's coming in from Atlanta just for the show and that's gonna be cool. So
6:33Speaker 2yeah, man, I think it's been amazing the people that have crossed our paths and we've been able to sit down and just really pick their brain, learn from them and vice versa. And
6:43Speaker 2man, I sometimes pinch myself. This is cool, dude. You know what I mean? Yeah.
6:47Speaker 3It'll be interesting. It's also, it's nice to actually like meet the people that you see. You see in there, whatever, their social media and see if they really are
6:56Speaker 3like that.
6:57Speaker 3Yeah. And I don't know. I guess I've been they say, like, never meet your heroes. Not like we've talked to anybody who's a hero. My butt
7:04Speaker 3Never meet your heroes because they tend to let you down.
7:08Speaker 3But so far, everybody that we met in person, like, dude, I thought is I thought have been
7:15Speaker 3way better than their reputation.
7:17Speaker 3Yeah. Right? Yeah. Much cooler- I think within
7:20Speaker 2a peptide world and like that type of world,
7:23Speaker 2it's such like minded people, know, even if you're not exactly on the same wavelength. I mean, your objective is 1, you're like,
7:30Speaker 2not necess you've kind of stepped out away from Western medicine to a degree because you're looking for different types of things.
7:37Speaker 2So there's just so much like
7:39Speaker 2just commonality that like easy to connect.
7:43Speaker 2You know what I mean?
7:44Speaker 2Yeah. Mutual respect.
7:46Speaker 2Absolutely.
7:48Speaker 3If you hear anybody if you hear something like a random grunt every once in a while, it's because there's a little dog walking around who's a little bit old, and sometimes she runs into things. Who's dog?
7:59Speaker 3It's Brandy's dog, Leah.
8:03Speaker 3Who's it? A little bronze. Friend a Frenchie.
8:06Speaker 3But she does tend to snort and,
8:08Speaker 3yeah. So it's not me, but
8:11Speaker 3Yeah. You
8:12Speaker 3might hear that.
8:13Speaker 2I hear anything. Well, today is gonna be different. What we're gonna do is we're gonna start off. Will is gonna do the top 5
8:21Speaker 2fat burners.
8:23Speaker 2And what I did is I took a little left turn instead of doing that as I'm gonna I pulled up 2 of the most common
8:30Speaker 2people that come through,
8:32Speaker 2you know, our DMs or whatnot.
8:34Speaker 2So I'm gonna do menopause,
8:37Speaker 2stack that out if a lady came through and had some stuff going through menopause, what I would recommend. And the other 1 is gonna be a 47 year old man who needs to lose 70 pounds. He has a desk job,
8:48Speaker 2and I'm gonna give you what I would recommend his exact stack and how I would personally
8:53Speaker 2get that dude in shape. So a little bit of different curveball on on the approach on these things. Why don't you start us off, Will, with the top 5 fat burners?
9:03Speaker 2Yep. Alright. Which Would you like to think? Are these in order? So Are these in Yeah. They'll be in order. Yeah. They're in order. Just. Yeah. For sure. They're they're def they're in order. Alright.
9:13Speaker 3Okay. So 1st 1 is Reta. So as we all would expect and and think. Right? Retatrutide.
9:21Speaker 3And in fact, probably
9:23Speaker 3all of the GLP ones probably make it into the 1st spot. Right? Yeah. Including even Semaglutide is probably still the more effective fat burner than anything else I can actually think of, even though it doesn't burn fat.
9:36Speaker 3But the proof is in the pudding. It actually just works. Right? People,
9:40Speaker 3it's what the GLPs have really opened our eyes to is how
9:45Speaker 3how much food
9:47Speaker 3matters in losing weight. Right? There's always been the argument like, ah, what's more important? If I can only do 1, which is like, that's never the answer anyway. It's like, should I eat better or should I just exercise a lot more? Well, GLPs have sure have illuminated that the most important damn thing is is eating better, by far. You'll get way further if you just eat better. Now you should do both. But so Reta, is the triple agonist, right, of the GLP-one,
10:12Speaker 3the GIP, and the GCG. The the unique thing here is like GLP-1s
10:16Speaker 3activation. I always find this really interesting is
10:19Speaker 3we have our normal GLP-one
10:22Speaker 3receptor
10:23Speaker 3in our body. Okay? And that goes off. Once we eat when we eat a big meal, okay, naturally,
10:28Speaker 3that receptor that goes off. Okay? And what is that doing? That is pushing a whole bunch of insulin
10:34Speaker 3into our body to combat all of the food that we ate. Right? So it's essentially like breaking it's making sure that we don't get this sugar overdose,
10:43Speaker 3from from the carbs,
10:44Speaker 3but it's pushing a whole bunch of insulin in there to counteract all the food that we just ate. It is also telling our brain, hey man, stop eating. You know, there's some dogs who just have this have this actual issue where they just, there's no off switch. They just will eat themselves to death every time. So like, that's our off switch is so our tells our brain, hey man, we're satiated. We don't need anything else. Okay? Stop eating.
11:08Speaker 3It's
11:09Speaker 3it and then obviously we're full, so our and our sort of stomach
11:13Speaker 3is, yeah, doesn't want to eat anymore. But basically that that's a really quick. That
11:19Speaker 3activation is like like 30 minutes. Okay? So you're sitting back right after you ate a big meal, you sit back and you're just like, dude, I don't want anything. I'm good. Like, nothing interests me. I'm satiated and happy.
11:29Speaker 3So the GLP-1s
11:32Speaker 3are a synthetic
11:34Speaker 3version of that, but that are meant to last for 5 days. Okay?
11:38Speaker 3So that's exactly what's happening, except for this time,
11:42Speaker 3you're not actually eating any food, and your body's pushing tons of insulin in there. K? And insulin actually is is freaking anabolic, and and it will make your body it will burn fat for you. So this is why bodybuilders inject insulin. It's dangerous. Don't do it. But,
11:57Speaker 3your body can regulate it through these GLPs, especially Retta. Anyway, so Retta is about 0.5 as strong as our natural GLP-one activation. K? It activates at about 50% as strong,
12:08Speaker 3but its
12:09Speaker 3GIP activation,
12:11Speaker 3k,
12:12Speaker 3is
12:13Speaker 3yeah, there's different readings, but about at least 3 times as strong as our natural,
12:19Speaker 3as our natural output.
12:20Speaker 3The tirzepatide's
12:22Speaker 3GIP is about 4 times weaker,
12:25Speaker 3and that's what's responsible for killing off all the nausea that is caused by that massive GLP activation, and it,
12:32Speaker 3really amplifies the GLP active 1 activation. So
12:36Speaker 3then you also have so I don't know. I think that that's really,
12:41Speaker 3I don't know, I find that really interesting, but
12:44Speaker 3and then it also has your glucagon
12:47Speaker 3activation, which is basically helping your brain. That's that's in those times where you don't eat. Your brain, your body will just kinda regulate your blood sugar. It'll shoot up some of that brain
12:57Speaker 3energy, right, to your brain. So normally, you would get hangry,
13:01Speaker 3but you don't. You don't eat any food normally.
13:04Speaker 3You know, this time with with Reta, you don't need food. Your brain stays alert and sharp the whole damn way through. Yeah.
13:10Speaker 3And your body stays energized. So this stuff's crazy. It's just
13:15Speaker 3I don't know. I think we talked about it enough, but there's Reta. Number 1, hands down, the best thing there possibly is. Yeah. The 1 thing that it doesn't do that people here's the 1 knock on it that's not even enough. Like, this these GLP-1s are not actually meant to curb your appetite. Right? They're meant to make you feel fuller longer. It's a side effect of the nausea that
13:34Speaker 3semaglutide
13:35Speaker 3and tirzepatide cause,
13:37Speaker 3but Retta does not have that. Therefore, people go, well, what the hell? I still have some appetite. I still wanna eat food. You know? That's a good thing. That's how it's supposed to be. Right?
13:46Speaker 3But anyway, so number 2, that brings us into I'm I'm gonna go with Cagrilintide.
13:51Speaker 3So that's relatively new. You can people, you can think of it as the the the GLP, like, 4th receptor if you want to. It's a great add on to so basically, it is just
14:02Speaker 3it is Lot longer. Killing your appetite.
14:05Speaker 2Yeah.
14:06Speaker 3And it will it's a great add on to
14:10Speaker 3Retta be for those people who, like, normally would say, like, oh, I wanna add, I guess, little tirzepatide in because I don't want that appetite. Like, this is a good, safer, better alternative to add in with Retta. Novo Nordisk has made Cagrasema,
14:24Speaker 3which is semaglutide and cagrilintide.
14:26Speaker 3Nobody has made well, Retta's not FDA approved. That's why nobody's made
14:30Speaker 2that combo, but telling you people, like, that's the combo.
14:34Speaker 2Alright. Next 1. So there's 1 and 2. 3. I'm Yeah. So let me just say that, but 1 2nd because I think that's important. So if there's people that start with tirzepatide,
14:44Speaker 2which many did, you know, it's kind of drizzling out now. A lot of people are going right to the Retta, but what Will and I had seen just countless times where if you start with tirzepatide because it really did curve the hunger a lot,
14:56Speaker 2and then they moved to the Retta, They really didn't think that the Retatrutide was working because they were getting And
15:03Speaker 2they were thinking that it wasn't working, which it was working great because that's what it does. We're supposed to be hungry,
15:08Speaker 2and it threw people off. So a lot of people would wanna add in the Retta and the Tirzepatide. So we'll just the focus on that is great to add in instead
15:17Speaker 2of the Tirzepatide, Cagrinetide, where it's gonna just block hunger
15:20Speaker 2and let Retta just do what Retta does. That's great. Yep, absolutely.
15:25Speaker 3And it does,
15:27Speaker 3yeah. So we'll leave it at that. A 100%, it's a great mix. Number 3, which I think you'll agree with is, I mean, this is tough. I did kind of a 3 A and B, but it's just straight up HGH.
15:37Speaker 3Right? I know it's not a,
15:40Speaker 3it's not a well, it is a peptide, folks. It's the peptide. It's a 191 amino acids. So the HGH, so it is,
15:48Speaker 3it's gonna do a whole bunch of things that are just good for your body. It's gonna help your, you know, body, your muscles repair, your bones actually strengthen and densen and repair. Right? Your help, it's gonna help your sleep, which in turn helps with fat loss. Right? It's gonna boost your metabolism.
16:03Speaker 3It's gonna increase your insulin sensitivity and well, and just don't do a whole bunch of it because then it can turn on you. But if you keep it within the men, like within 3 IUs a day,
16:14Speaker 3and
16:16Speaker 3it's 1 of those things that really is just going to boost metabolism, burn everything. You really notice it though, again, like we said, after the fact, if you've been taking a while and then you stop and you go, oh, shit, that's what it was doing. Why am I checking? Why is my body yeah. Why am I I used to be able to eat absolutely anything and nothing would happen to my body.
16:35Speaker 2Yeah.
16:37Speaker 3And so
16:39Speaker 3that this honorable mention there though is the HGH frag. So
16:43Speaker 3HGH frag, 176
16:45Speaker 3through 191, okay, which is very similar to AOD. AOD is a slightly more modified version. It's a 177
16:53Speaker 3through,
16:55Speaker 3191,
16:56Speaker 3but you're getting all of the same fat burning benefits that HGH is giving you. You're just not getting any of those gross benefits. Yeah. But if you actually the best, if you want to lose weight, you better be adding muscle
17:08Speaker 3or at least not losing any muscle. So therefore, the HGH is going to be more effective than the HGH frag because
17:14Speaker 3of the other properties that it has.
17:16Speaker 3I think HGH frag is more effective than AOD
17:19Speaker 3by little bit, right? Not much, but they're basically all the same. They're doing all the same things. Yeah.
17:26Speaker 3So that's kind of all grouped into
17:28Speaker 2is such a bad rap, dude. Like, it's just getting nailed out there. I mean, I read a lot of the comments and let me Hey, listen. He just on, dude. Like, I don't like, again, we've said this, but, you know, there's always new listeners and it's such a topic because it's all through the comments,
17:42Speaker 2which people just say it doesn't work and all this stuff. And like, it's a matter of opinion. You gotta try it. If you are trying to lose 70 pounds and you take AOD,
17:51Speaker 2it's not gonna work. It's not what it's for. Like, it's not, like, it's not gonna even compare to a Retta. Like, we've talked about it numerous times, but people keep talking about it in the comments. Because JD loves it, but it doesn't work. Like, whatever, man. I know it works because I've taken it, but I'm lean. Yeah. Like, it just helps
18:05Speaker 2helps keep you a little bit leaner easier, very similar to what we do the HGH for. So you gotta look at it from the right angle if you're trying to lose 50 pounds. AOD ain't what you want.
18:17Speaker 2You gotta get you gotta get in shape 1st, and then it'll help with that. So that's,
18:22Speaker 3you Right. And that is good kind of a pain. I I love it. Yep. Yep. For sure. And then next, number 4 is I'm going with Tesamorelin.
18:30Speaker 3So Tesamorelin
18:31Speaker 3is not
18:33Speaker 3is not 1 of these that's super strong right off the bat.
18:36Speaker 3It is 1 that needs to be used
18:40Speaker 3consistently
18:40Speaker 3and, you know, of,
18:42Speaker 3well, 3, 4 months and then then again, but it's like, it is the only thing that we have developed, that man has developed, that actually will
18:50Speaker 3spot burn fat from your belly fat. Right? And it is, I mean, it is FDA approved to do that and to reduce your,
18:58Speaker 3visceral fat,
19:00Speaker 3which is the fat around your organs, and that's the real bad stuff.
19:03Speaker 3So
19:04Speaker 3and if it's FDA approved to do it, it sure as hell does it and does it really well. It isn't gonna be, you know, this, like, bam, immediate
19:11Speaker 3giant increase of, of caloric
19:14Speaker 3burn, but it's also gonna and that's and we're not even talking about the actual ability to increase your HGH and do a lot of the stuff that we just talked about. The HGH guys,
19:25Speaker 3just not as effective. But the fact that it can target belly fat and burn there and
19:30Speaker 3its synergy,
19:32Speaker 3again, like, I would not use Tesamorelin
19:34Speaker 3as your primary fat burner. Really, right, everything should be just is predicated on Retta.
19:39Speaker 3Do that. And then Got
19:42Speaker 3add these other things in, and and it will work really well. So.
19:46Speaker 2Yeah. It's like Rebels is like fire burning,
19:49Speaker 2and the other ones are just like throwing a little bit of fuel on the fire. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Yep. Just keep Ain't nothing but a little bit of fuel in Nothing.
19:58Speaker 2Nothing. Nothing close.
20:00Speaker 3And so and we had talked about this, and here here's a little here's a caveat on Tesamorelin,
20:05Speaker 3folks, and and with Retta. So
20:08Speaker 3Tesamorelin,
20:09Speaker 3like every other HGH secretagog,
20:11Speaker 3thrives
20:12Speaker 3in a, like, insulin absent
20:15Speaker 3environment.
20:16Speaker 3Okay? So it gets dulled by the by insulin. Okay? So Tesamorelin
20:21Speaker 3will not work as well if we have a whole bunch of insulin in your body. Okay? What did we just talk about? What Reta does is you take it and it floods your body with insulin thinking there's food, but there is no food. So the goal if you're taking those both, they are great to stack together,
20:36Speaker 3but when I say that they but they should be dosed as far apart as possible.
20:42Speaker 3Evening
20:44Speaker 3or in in morning, vice versa. So just
20:48Speaker 3keep that in mind. Like, those are great to take together, but
20:52Speaker 3don't
20:53Speaker 3take them at the exact same time. Yeah. Because 1 will will kind of blunt the other
20:59Speaker 3there. So and then, right, we've always talked about Tesamorelin, hey, at night. So if you take Tessa at night, that is most akin to our natural
21:07Speaker 3HGH pulse, like, circadian rhythm. Okay? And so what it's doing is trying to enhance that that biggest pulse at night.
21:15Speaker 3That's reason 1 to take it at night, but
21:18Speaker 3also it works so damn well in a fasted
21:22Speaker 3no insulin environment, okay? And you really can't
21:25Speaker 3simulate that by not eating for an hour before you take it, right? Low
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22:00Speaker 3you really are fasted after a whole night's sleep of no food,
22:04Speaker 3and then take it right there. It's gonna work incredibly well, although it's not as
22:09Speaker 3synced up your circadian rhythm. So, like, there is the argument guys and, like, to each his own. Yeah. Oh,
22:15Speaker 3to each his own, there it is. And you guys, people can make the decision and experiment both ways if they want to. Which you need to.
22:22Speaker 2You need to works better for you than doing both. Try it. Grab them both.
22:26Speaker 3There's all these- That's There's a lot of nuances to all
22:29Speaker 3these peptides. There's probably, you know, that's why there can be some confusion. Right? There's probably some guy out there or girl who just, like, accidentally
22:37Speaker 3just took these 3 compounds and took them just in the perfect time and set their schedule up, just completely oblivious, but just did it perfect and were like, damn, look how well this works. And then there's these some people who take the same thing and go, I don't really notice anything, you know,
22:51Speaker 3because they've accidentally
22:53Speaker 3taken everything kind of wrong with the wrong eating habits. Yeah. And we're still figuring this out.
22:58Speaker 3We're So still figuring it out, man. Like and it's
23:01Speaker 3so we don't have the golden answer. We have some answers, but not not everyone.
23:07Speaker 3Absolutely. Last is so here's number 5. And
23:12Speaker 3this was a struggle.
23:14Speaker 3The I honestly chose this just from
23:17Speaker 3people's feedback and not from paper, but I'm gonna go with MOTS-three.
23:22Speaker 2Okay. There
23:24Speaker 3was and I'll kinda list off all the other kind of honorable mentions, but MOTS-1.0
23:29Speaker 3is a people been saying recently, oh, it helps reduce appetite or it should. I don't,
23:35Speaker 3I didn't, I don't think it should, guys. So if you think of MOTS-1.0 and you're like, it's not reduced my appetite. That's fine. I don't I don't I don't see why it should do that.
23:44Speaker 3But it does a whole I mean, antiaging on a cellular level, right? Giving more energy and ATP to your cells, giving you more energy.
23:52Speaker 3Therefore, you now
23:55Speaker 3actually go out and do more things, right, and you exercise harder and longer,
24:00Speaker 3but it also is an exercise mimetic.
24:02Speaker 3Right?
24:04Speaker 3And so it on a cellular level, your body is thinking it's exercising.
24:08Speaker 3And basically, I have just heard and seen from thousands of people
24:13Speaker 3great results and really, really, really positive feedback.
24:17Speaker 3So
24:18Speaker 3that's why I'm going with MOTSY.
24:21Speaker 3Cool. And
24:22Speaker 3here are some other honorable mentions. I'm just gonna list something. So if anybody else is like, you want to go look into fat burners here, and all of these are also all good.
24:32Speaker 3So SLU-3. -three
24:35Speaker 332 in in a in a sublingual
24:37Speaker 3pill,
24:38Speaker 3injectable form, also an exercise mimetic. It helps with,
24:42Speaker 3nutrient partitioning.
24:43Speaker 3So,
24:45Speaker 3it will absolutely keep muscle on you because if you eat a little protein, it's going right into those muscles. Then you have 5 amino 1 MQ.
24:51Speaker 3Yep. As a great these are all really great adjunct treatments. Right?
24:55Speaker 35 amino 1 MQ helps boost your NAD plus levels. It also helps prioritize
25:00Speaker 3fat before,
25:02Speaker 3sugar. Tesofensine
25:04Speaker 3is going to mentally make you not not wanna eat any sweets. That's what I've found. Right? But it's also just gonna increase your motivation and energy. And again,
25:14Speaker 3you'll get up and do more things.
25:16Speaker 3Yeah. Like this person who's a desk job, you know, if we can just get you up and like on your feet and a whole lifestyle change, right? Yeah. Like, you go on walks for fun. You know what I mean? You go on hikes for fun instead of watching a movie for fun. That whole thing is all really important.
25:31Speaker 2Do So you think, because there's a lot of people that talk about Tesofensine,
25:35Speaker 2like, rivaling
25:36Speaker 2Retatrutide
25:37Speaker 2with,
25:39Speaker 2like,
25:39Speaker 2blocking hunger. You know?
25:42Speaker 2I don't get that at all. Do you?
25:45Speaker 2No. Like, none. Like, I don't like that. Like, any type of hunger for me at all, but, like, people talk about it all the time. So I just It does not block hunger.
25:53Speaker 3Here's what it blocks for me is it blocks
25:56Speaker 3Cravings. Any craving
25:58Speaker 3for sweets.
26:00Speaker 3So it's basically not and I definitely noticed this, and this what it says on paper, but like, I'm not looking for any food
26:08Speaker 3to make me happy.
26:10Speaker 3Right? That's what, like, ice cream is doing that. Right? You go, oh, okay. This is just gonna, like, subconsciously,
26:15Speaker 3this is just gonna make me really happy. You start eating the ice cream and you're like, well, that didn't do anything. Why? Because the Tesofensine is already covering that base. Right? It's already you're, you're already a little bit happier and just more, I don't know, satisfied in life, which is why you have more motivation.
26:31Speaker 3Yeah. And you why you do more things. Right? The people who are happier,
26:35Speaker 3and are really motivated are not the people that are sitting on the couch watching TV and doing this. 100%.
26:41Speaker 3They're up getting shit done because they're stoked about it, and they know that every little step they take leads them to more progress.
26:47Speaker 2Well, you also you see the people, you know, you don't see them as much as I because I'm the social media guy, but, like, the people that are on there talking shit, right? Listen, they're everywhere. But like, nobody talks shit if they're happy with their life. Like, people that go to the gym don't talk shit on people going to the gym. Like, they get it. You know what I mean? Like, the people talking shit are sitting on the couch, doing anything. You know what I mean? Because, you know, that's just the way it is. Like, people who go to gym aren't gonna like give you shit for going to the gym. You know what I mean? As simple as it sounds. You know what I mean? If you just get moving and change your lifestyle
27:20Speaker 2and and get off the couch, you're not gonna be talking shit, man, because you're gonna be busy getting in shape.
27:24Speaker 3Yeah. Eat. Yeah. Well, it's it's jealousy too. Right? Like, how many times have
27:29Speaker 2Yeah. You see people like, oh, wow. You're doing steroids, fighting steroids. I'd be like that. Seriously, bro. You know what's funny? Sean O'Halein posted something the other day where he was sat at some beach, and then he shredded. You know? And, like, he was saying how he used to have a dad body. And when a guy walked in that was ripped, he was always talking shit. Oh yeah.
27:48Speaker 2What loser, you're going into all this shit. He's like, I realized
27:52Speaker 2that I was the 1 that had the problem and then I fixed the problem, I got in shape. I just thought it was a good pose. I hit him up. I'm like, oh no dude. He's like, you know what I mean? Like, you just gotta change your perspective, man. You're not gonna talk shit on people when you start getting in shape. You're not gonna talk shit on people in shape anymore because you're in shape. Nope. Not at all. Simple math, man. No yeah. Yep. Alright. Here's my last list of so other things that we didn't talk about.
28:14Speaker 3Clenbuterol.
28:16Speaker 3Right? Clenbuterol does a bunch of things, right? It's a thermogenic.
28:21Speaker 3It's a stimulant, so your heart's gonna be a little bit faster. You're gonna, you're gonna burn more calories. Right? It's well, you're also gonna get up off the couch and do more things. Right? It's an appetite suppressant, and it's a
28:35Speaker 3bronchodilator.
28:36Speaker 3So they give it to racehorses, hell, boxers, anybody in the athletic events will benefit because you could just do cardio more. You could take in a whole bunch more air.
28:44Speaker 3It's a prescription medication,
28:46Speaker 3right? But probably 1 of the most popular fat burners of all. It's been around forever.
28:50Speaker 3Ever. Right. Forever. Then we have Carderene GW 5 0 1 5 1 6,
28:56Speaker 3which is dope. That is really gonna help boost the hell out of your endurance.
29:00Speaker 3Yeah. And stamina,
29:02Speaker 3of, like, you will enjoy doing cardio,
29:05Speaker 3and therefore, you'll burn more calories. It also helps kind of put you in that keto phase without being in keto, prioritizing fat before sugar.
29:13Speaker 3T 3,
29:15Speaker 3t stands for thyroid. So those who have, you know, slower thyroid,
29:23Speaker 3this is a prescription medication that doctors will give.
29:26Speaker 3Like, we talked Joe Thomas Joe Joe Brown, who was on our show, like,
29:31Speaker 3started taking T3, and it immediately
29:35Speaker 3just changed his life. And so you, again, you never know, like, what you happen to just be deficient in. And he took that and was like, oh my god. My body works again. Like, I'm I'm happy. This is crazy.
29:46Speaker 3Dude, that's awesome. So, you know, and then there's there there is a relationship between t 4 and t 3. Right? T 4 is the building blocks. So, like, what he said, his doctor gave him t 4, and it didn't do anything. Well, no shit. His problem was his body could not convert t 4 into t 3. So giving him t more t 4 was a futile effort.
30:06Speaker 3He needed the actual hormone,
30:08Speaker 3the the end result.
30:10Speaker 3Anyway, so something to look into, but t 3 is something to not be messed with. Yeah. May not want to take it, a lot of it,
30:17Speaker 2and then stop it. K? Yeah. Well, like about the Joe Brown thing,
30:23Speaker 2I've known him since he was really chubby. You know what I mean? So I've seen his transformation, which is rad.
30:28Speaker 2But what stuck out at me when you said that is, you know, he's such a he's brilliant. He's off the charts, intelligent.
30:35Speaker 2And the way that he figured it out is he studied, you know? Yeah, he He studied that stuff. So like these things are,
30:42Speaker 2that's what each person has to do. You know, you gotta try these things. I know we talk about it all the time, but you gotta try some things and because it's just, it takes time to figure out, you know, what your body responds to. And I'll tell you, I just turned 49,
30:55Speaker 2that changes every like 7 to 10 years. You gotta read,
30:59Speaker 2body throws curves at you. You get older, like it's literally bro, like I remember 38,
31:05Speaker 2my body threw curves at me, like just, dude, went poof, I just hit a wall. And I had to like kind of figure it out, you know? And then I adapted, changed my diet, got on TRT. And then well, 10 years later, dude, I hit it again. Different wall, but I had to figure it out. Yep. Well, about every 10, it seems like
31:23Speaker 3See, in every 2 years, there's new technology and new new philosophies
31:27Speaker 2and new science that comes out too about how our body works. We can age hell. We can wage well, man. Like, dude, I mean, I'm 49,
31:35Speaker 2you know, and 20 will, so I so I can't you know, I'm here almost a week, and I didn't I wasn't using any Wolverine or any, which is my favorite in, like, dude, bro, I think it was in 4 days. I'm waking up and just
31:47Speaker 2achy and like, I was like, shit, I was telling listeners. You're
31:51Speaker 2moving so slow. And I'm like, oh man, I can't believe now. Just more proof that, dude, that's why I take that stuff. I wake up and I don't usually feel like it. I'm like, man, I'm just still lifting, but man, I'm running a little slow. Mhmm.
32:02Speaker 3That's right. Well, it's still good for you to take a little break off of that, off of everything, and
32:07Speaker 3maybe you should chill out on the lifting because as we know, like,
32:11Speaker 3you should use this as a break to just let your muscles and tendons just finally grow back
32:16Speaker 3all the way. I do. And do what you do. Probably not. But, the last 1 that I just have is is Lipo C,
32:25Speaker 3and you'll see that as like skinny shots, right, from doctors.
32:29Speaker 3Usually, lipos usually, it can come in people call a bunch of things lipo C, but generally, what you're it's kind of a mix of
32:39Speaker 3MYC, which I need to read this is methionine
32:42Speaker 3o 9,
32:43Speaker 3inositol, and choline. K? MYC. And then it'll have L carnitine,
32:48Speaker 3B 12, or or like a B complex,
32:52Speaker 3all mixed in 1. And, you know, those are good. I think it this is more of just kind of good
32:58Speaker 3health.
32:59Speaker 3That's like almost like a dietary supplement for general health. You had to throw any LF-four in her.
33:06Speaker 2Yes, absolutely. So I guess I did completely forget to actually add L- because the cool thing about that is there's so many, like, we'll just went through literally, like all of the ones that were just awesome.
33:15Speaker 2And so like, it's rad.
33:17Speaker 2Obviously, you need to start with red and you need to get in better shape, and then the fat burners are gonna really do what they do. Again, the AOD is gonna work when you're in that realm of it working better because you're kind of like more in shape, but that's when fat burners really shine. Reta, Trutide, you need to lose the fat. But once you get, you know, and lose a lot of that fat, then you start using the fat burners, man, and they just chisel that other fat off. You start getting those obliques
33:41Speaker 2popping out. Yep. That's where the fat burners shine.
33:44Speaker 3Mhmm. And it is like a domino effect, man. Both, just everybody, you know, when you start your journey, just don't quit 5 minutes before the miracle happens. Right? You will notice
33:55Speaker 3it takes your body. It takes your body maybe a month or so to try to to finally figure out what you're trying to do to it. Okay? So even bulking too.
34:04Speaker 3I'm eating all this food. Right? I'm taking these supplements, but like, shit, nothing's happening. I just kinda feel really full all the time.
34:10Speaker 3Nothing's happening. You just wait. You just keep doing it. Right? Then you people see like, okay, hey, my body just built some muscle. And now, and that just, and then it's a it it snowballs.
34:22Speaker 21 way or the other, and you almost can't stop it. I was listening to interview with Ronnie Coleman the other day, and it was it was super interesting because he would bulk up and then kind of change the amount of food he ate. Obviously, when they're bulking, they're eating just, dude, I don't even know how many meals, like 10 meals, crazy. Every 2 hours eating huge meals, you know what I mean?
34:43Speaker 2And the guy, the interviewer asked him when you were switching and would add in those 3 extra meals, which is a big deal, but 3 extra meals is a lot. Like, that's the most He
34:53Speaker 2said, How long would it take for your body to adjust? And he said,
34:58Speaker 2Over 3 months, sometimes 4.
35:00Speaker 2That just puts that in perspective.
35:02Speaker 2He's done it all his life and it still took him
35:05Speaker 2about 3 to 4 months to adding 3 more meals to his diet for your body to go, Okay. Notice the difference. This is working now.
35:14Speaker 2So give it some time is the point. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give it some time.
35:19Speaker 2Well, you said I'm it, you doing know, the most things
35:22Speaker 2of the entire podcast before, which is
35:25Speaker 3food, diet.
35:27Speaker 3Food.
35:28Speaker 3Absolutely.
35:29Speaker 2Peptides are great, but gotta eat right.
35:32Speaker 3Exercise is great,
35:34Speaker 3but you gotta eat right.
35:36Speaker 2And so you ain't gonna like, you ain't gonna exercise yourself into shape if you eat like shit. And you're in 4, like, you're over 40. They haven't. Nope, not gonna happen. People do it. That's
35:45Speaker 2why they stop because they start working out and going to gym for 2 weeks and like seeing no change
35:50Speaker 2and then they quit.
35:52Speaker 2Yeah. You know what Right.
35:54Speaker 2Alright,
35:55Speaker 2I'm gonna go with 2 people that come through our
35:58Speaker 2DMs constantly,
36:00Speaker 2and they might be redundant for some, but we get them constantly. So we got new listeners constantly. So we got a 47 year old, and here's how I would treat this this guy if I was gonna do like personal training with him. 47
36:12Speaker 2year old man,
36:13Speaker 2he needs to lose at least 70 pounds
36:16Speaker 2and he sits at a desk job
36:18Speaker 2all day, right?
36:20Speaker 2So obviously,
36:21Speaker 2I will probably agree on this right away. You're gonna need to get your blood work, dude. I'm almost certain that dude is not hormonally optimized because
36:29Speaker 2he would have a different experience. He wouldn't need to lose 30 pounds, 70 pounds on arpinen. Right? So get your blood work and without a doubt, get on TRT.
36:36Speaker 2It's a must. It'll change your life. Will would probably say the same thing. Number 2, HGH,
36:42Speaker 247 year old needs to be on HGH.
36:45Speaker 2Those 2 will go perfectly together. It's gonna help with sleep recovery.
36:49Speaker 2As he starts working out and he's not used to it, it's gonna help his body recover
36:55Speaker 2and sleep. You you recover and you heal when you sleep. Right?
36:59Speaker 2Mhmm. Antiaging,
37:01Speaker 2it's gonna help with putting on some lean muscle, reduce fat,
37:05Speaker 2and,
37:06Speaker 2yeah, muscle density.
37:08Speaker 2HGH is amazing.
37:10Speaker 2Again, I say it all the time, and I it deserves to be redundant.
37:13Speaker 2Almost anybody over 40 should be on HGH
37:16Speaker 2Mhmm. In my opinion. 3 is the obvious,
37:20Speaker 2is going to be the Retatrutide.
37:22Speaker 2Will already said it. It's like the holy grail of losing weight. If you need to lose 70 pounds,
37:27Speaker 2without a doubt, get on Retatrutide.
37:29Speaker 2It doesn't negate
37:31Speaker 2diet and exercise
37:33Speaker 2or hormone replacement, hormone optimization.
37:36Speaker 2That, in my opinion, takes the front seat. If you take Retatrutide and you're not hormonally
37:40Speaker 2optimized, yes, it will work. But dude, if you're hormonally optimized and you take Retatrutide,
37:45Speaker 2it's gonna work so much better, Right? Absolutely.
37:48Speaker 2Everybody knows what it does. I mean, it's just gonna literally chisel body fat off of your body.
37:53Speaker 2Now, the number 4 for this guy,
37:56Speaker 2he sits at a desk job. He hasn't been working out, right? He needs to lose 70 pounds. We are shaking this dude's life up, right? We are changing this man, right? We're gonna get his butt moving,
38:08Speaker 2so he's gonna be in pain. So what do you think I'm gonna go with? I'm gonna go with a Wolverine. Wolverine. We're gonna tendon
38:14Speaker 2repair. It's gonna help with ligaments.
38:18Speaker 2It will help with some gut stuff because of the
38:21Speaker 2the BPC-one hundred 57. So
38:24Speaker 2any any guy that's 47 that hasn't been lifting weights, any any type of resistance training, you're gonna definitely need Wolverine for sure. Now this 1 might throw a little bit of a curve.
38:34Speaker 2I went I'm gonna put I'm gonna go with KPV.
38:38Speaker 2We all have gut problems, and those gut problems are causing a lot of problems in all of us. Leaky gut is very common. Even if you don't have full blown leaky gut, just gut problems in general. You're 47 years old, you've been eating like crap, you haven't been working out, you're not hormonally optimized.
38:55Speaker 2I think a big piece of that is gonna be healing your gut. So I'm gonna throw in the KPV.
39:00Speaker 2It's gonna bring inflammation down. It's just gonna really help if he has any type of leaky
39:06Speaker 2gut type things and helps modulate the immune balance. So I love KPV.
39:11Speaker 2Think it's an amazing compound. So those would be 5 that I would
39:15Speaker 2do for that gentlemen.
39:17Speaker 2Hormone optimization without a doubt is number 1, then the HGH,
39:21Speaker 2and then the retrutide.
39:22Speaker 21st, we set the base with that stuff. Now I would start this dude, no doubt,
39:27Speaker 2my old school way, which is I'm gonna put him on a carnivore diet for 90 days. Not perpetuity,
39:32Speaker 290 days. It's like that fat is gonna start burning off of him because we're getting him moving. We got him hormonally optimized
39:41Speaker 2and he's gonna be burning fat, and he's gonna be looking good. If we get him on a carnivore for 90 days, literally,
39:47Speaker 2he's gonna burn that fat like crazy. You guys all know me. I would definitely throw him in some fasting too.
39:53Speaker 2Monday,
39:54Speaker 2Wednesday, and Friday. We're just gonna cut out breakfast from Monday, Wednesday, and Friday only.
39:59Speaker 2He's gonna eat from 12 to 8 carnivore diet
40:03Speaker 2and
40:05Speaker 2weight training 4 days a week,
40:08Speaker 2And I'm gonna put in 3 days of HIIT training. We'll we'll tell you this. HIIT training is amazing.
40:14Speaker 2He's older, so you can there's HIIT training that I used to do videos of HIIT training. Don't know. Do very simple ones. We just need you to move.
40:23Speaker 2I mean, I would just do ones where I would just do this.
40:26Speaker 2And I'm serious, like, if you don't move, that's hard. You know what mean? Yeah. We just wanna get him moving and get that blood flowing.
40:34Speaker 2If that, if this, you know, this guy
40:38Speaker 2did that
40:39Speaker 290 days, he would look like a completely
40:43Speaker 2different person. I agree. That setup.
40:46Speaker 3Completely different. You
40:48Speaker 3can add in, you know, like like Will said, maybe attisifencing because that help with some of the cravings, but, I think the Retatrutide does. The Retta will do it. I mean, the like, yeah, the going on this car No. We wanna simplify and do, like, less. Retta is gonna make it easy. Yeah. Right. Yes. Absolutely.
41:02Speaker 3But yeah. So tell me timeline of this. So what
41:05Speaker 3would you tell people so like what's the timeline of adding any to these compounds?
41:09Speaker 2Yeah. Well, the blood works 1st, right? So I would say he would start the red ChewChad right away, right? I would so that's even though it's number 3, let's get that stuff moving because it's gonna take some time to get the blood work and get the blood work back. But, you know, I think you and I both agree hormone- Yeah. Hormone hormonally optimized at 47 is a freaking must. Yeah. I mean, we say it all the time, but we have people in our DMs literally every day, like multiple people saying, Thank you guys so much. Because of you, I got on testosterone replacement,
41:38Speaker 2and I'm not patting ourselves on the back. We say these things over and over because like, it will change your freaking life, dude. Like, it will change your life, dude. In 3 weeks,
41:48Speaker 2you know what I mean? You're gonna sleep better. You're gonna have vigor. Your sex drive, your clarity, your brain fog
41:54Speaker 2will improve. We could go on and on for days.
41:57Speaker 2So this
41:59Speaker 2thing, right?
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42:35Speaker 2that will
42:36Speaker 2change your life in 90 days. Now it's gonna require a
42:39Speaker 2ton of discipline,
42:41Speaker 2but that's
42:42Speaker 2the objective. We're not trying to like inject something to lose weight and that's it. We're trying to change your damn life
42:50Speaker 2so that when you see somebody walking that's ripped, you're not talking shit anymore because you're ripped, you're getting in shape. You're like, yeah, bro. You start rooting for people. You know what I mean? We're changing your mindset.
43:01Speaker 2So
43:01Speaker 2there it is right there. Yeah. Good stuff. And you know how to get back in shape and you base leave in so you just don't get
43:07Speaker 2out of shape. You can maintain it. Right? Well, you start tasting success. You start tasting.
43:13Speaker 2When you start seeing your body change, that's why people stop. Right? Will, like people Will and I have done, like, you know, especially Will has been personal training forever. People go do it wrong, dude. You go to the gym because you think I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm gonna like work out and get in shape. You're doing it all wrong. You gotta start with a diet.
43:29Speaker 2You know I mean? Yep.
43:31Speaker 2Start there. But if you change your lifestyle,
43:35Speaker 2we know we've seen it over and over again. Like, we've seen people that have lost literally 150 plus pounds and they're ripped now, literally ripped now because their mindset changed and they know that they are worth it and they know that they can freaking do it. You gotta break through that barrier.
43:52Speaker 2Like, you no longer think, well, that guy was just has good genes or that guy's on steroids.
43:56Speaker 2No. Yeah. He's disciplined.
43:58Speaker 2He's lived like, know, he says no to cake. He, you know what I mean? He gets it before whatever, and he he's implemented this constant consistency
44:06Speaker 2of doing it every freaking day. And you become that guy
44:10Speaker 2when you start doing these things.
44:12Speaker 3You learn how to fail and succeed. You learn how to go through failures and ups and downs and just keep persevering through.
44:20Speaker 3At the end of the day, once you actually kind of made some real progress on your own,
44:24Speaker 3you have learned a lot and succeeded and you know and and it's so much easier just to keep pushing forward. I had so here's the funny story. I actually yesterday, I had somebody text me a picture of themselves and said, hey, remember, let's 6 years ago when you told me that
44:38Speaker 3that
44:39Speaker 3I told him,
44:41Speaker 3dude, you're just not you just don't have genetics to ever have a 6 pack. Sorry.
44:46Speaker 3Yes. It was 6 years when you told me that. Yeah. He sent me a picture of him, and and he was damn close. I mean, damn close. Like, alright. Yep. And now I'm like, bro, how much more fun
44:57Speaker 3is it now as you lift weights? And he's like, dude, I go, now you're guaranteed to get it, like, get it because you see now you've made all these results. Now it's like, oh, shit. Now I look forward to everything. I can go to the gym because I can do it, and I can make more and more and more progress.
45:12Speaker 3Hell yeah. So,
45:14Speaker 3I love those stories. Yeah.
45:16Speaker 2Alright, ladies. Yeah. So
45:18Speaker 2menopause,
45:20Speaker 2weight gain, what are some of the things? Brain fog,
45:24Speaker 2moody,
45:24Speaker 2we'll leave it there. You're yelling at your husband all the time, and it's not him too.
45:29Speaker 3Decreased sex drive, like lower growth hormone output. Right?
45:35Speaker 3Gut permeability
45:37Speaker 3and and inflammation
45:38Speaker 3accelerate accelerated
45:40Speaker 3collagen loss.
45:41Speaker 2Yeah.
45:42Speaker 3Huge. And, yeah,
45:44Speaker 3disrupted sleep circadian rhythm. Hair thinning.
45:47Speaker 2Absolutely. Oh, for a lady losing her hair, that's just yeah. We all we all know that's gotta suck. Dry dry skin, flaky skin, and obviously dry down below. Who who in the hell wants that? So that sucks. We get a lot of lot of gals coming through. So I think in regards to energy,
46:02Speaker 2you know, I'm gonna go with NAD plus, that's cellular energy. You know, I like the SS-thirty 1 and the MOTS C for those as well. Now we've, you know, through the last year, of shifted just with
46:13Speaker 2learning, growing,
46:15Speaker 2talking to different people to do it differently. SS-thirty 1 1st,
46:18Speaker 2it's really gonna, like, repair that mitochondria.
46:21Speaker 2I don't know, 3 weeks, I think, can do it. You can take it a little bit longer than that, but I think at least running the SS-thirty 1 at a higher dose for 3 weeks is where I would start.
46:30Speaker 2Yeah. And you can add in the MOTS-three. You could take them both, which we think that you should.
46:35Speaker 2And the MOTS-3C is gonna boost your mitochondria and because it's now it's repaired
46:40Speaker 2and it's gonna work better. So that's those 3 together will really give you cellular energy, not if like you're gonna like, you have a big coffee or an espresso. That's like true cellular energy. You just have that constant energy
46:52Speaker 2throughout the day. Balanced
46:54Speaker 2mood,
46:55Speaker 2Semax and Selank. So you'd go with those 2? I think those 2 together feel like
47:00Speaker 2moods will be great. Semax is gonna modulate that dopamine, serotonin.
47:05Speaker 2Mental clarity, helps with the brain fog.
47:09Speaker 2Selank is different or it's gonna help with, like, anxiety.
47:11Speaker 2I would imagine if you're moody and you're frustrated and whatnot, you have some anxiety
47:15Speaker 2going on. So those 2 really go together. Now the 3rd,
47:21Speaker 2either or, I would say Tesofensine.
47:23Speaker 2I think Tesofensine would be a good fit right there.
47:26Speaker 2Yeah. I agree. Yeah. You know, I think Tesofensine is great. Obviously,
47:30Speaker 2the intimacy,
47:31Speaker 2the dry down below is gonna be the PT 1 41.
47:36Speaker 2It's not necessarily gonna work on the dryness until you start kinda getting revved up, which PT
47:41Speaker 21 41 Which may be a good thing. Very quickly. Wanna walk around. From 1st gear 5th right away. Might be awkward. You're not, like, walking around horny. You just walk around, and all of sudden, if you start playing a little bit or like a little it just sticks right to that stub. You're ready to rock. Yeah. You know what mean? So that will help with that. I think that's obvious.
47:58Speaker 2The weight gain, duh, we're gonna go with Retrutide
48:01Speaker 2hands down.
48:02Speaker 2Even if you're a lady that doesn't need to lose a lot of weight, we've talked about it at Nausea where it's
48:08Speaker 2even bodybuilders are taking it. It just depends on the dose. So that's an easy fit for you you gals who are gaining weight or having some weight issues, Retrutide.
48:18Speaker 2And then the skin, hair, nail problem,
48:21Speaker 2thinning of hair,
48:22Speaker 2flaky skin. I mean, that stuff sucks. Right? The obvious is GHKCU,
48:27Speaker 2but I'm gonna throw in either the CLO or the GLO.
48:31Speaker 2All 3, either any of those will do fine.
48:35Speaker 2I would probably just go with the CLO because of just all the benefits of the other peptides in it. You have the KPV
48:41Speaker 2that's always gonna help with your gut.
48:43Speaker 2Obviously, the GHKCU
48:45Speaker 2with collagen production,
48:47Speaker 2helping of the thinning of the hair, kind of with fine lines and wrinkles.
48:51Speaker 2You know, what lady doesn't want that? So that's the obvious. I would go with the CLO,
48:56Speaker 2but either any of those will work. GHK-3CU,
48:59Speaker 2GLO- Mhmm. Or CLO for that area.
49:02Speaker 2That's the, that is the the menopause stack that
49:06Speaker 2I kind of recommend. It's comes through my DMs constantly,
49:09Speaker 2so, it's 1 I know kind of off the top, but, I think that would help any of you ladies dealing with that stuff for sure.
49:16Speaker 3Yep. I will say so.
49:19Speaker 3Yeah. Okay, go ahead.
49:20Speaker 2So I'm gonna throw 1 at you. Mhmm. Let's say
49:24Speaker 2let's say you have a 21 year old male.
49:27Speaker 2He is he's in some sports. Let's not say football. Let's say, he is in water polo. I've never played it, so don't know why I threw that out. My buddy has a water polo Polo. 21 year old. He's,
49:39Speaker 2kicking ass, and and he's still playing at 21
49:43Speaker 2and lives an active life.
49:45Speaker 2What stack do you put a 21 year old? Because this is a good question. A lot of parents are starting to ask these things.
49:50Speaker 2What stack do you put him on, William Teahouse?
49:55Speaker 2Well, if he's not playing I mean, is he is this is he just playing water polo for fun, is he in college? I would say, let's say he's doing it, like, competitively. I don't know if there's a professional water polo. I have no idea. But let's just say he's he's in I think was Olympic water polo. Of
50:09Speaker 2sports. Yeah.
50:11Speaker 3Okay.
50:12Speaker 3I would probably give him
50:15Speaker 3shit.
50:17Speaker 3At at 21 here's the thing. Like, at 21, any of the secretagogues
50:20Speaker 3besides MK-six
50:22Speaker 377,
50:23Speaker 3I do not think will do anything to him, and so therefore is kind of pointless to give him. I think MK-677
50:30Speaker 3will do a ton. I know water but hang on. Water players, they burn a ton of energy. Right? You're swimming around all the time and just to keep some weight on, it's nice to boost your hunger.
50:43Speaker 3Although MK-677,
50:45Speaker 3I would watch it with any testing regulations,
50:47Speaker 3if you're playing competitively or Olympic or anything like that. So I probably would stay away from that.
50:53Speaker 3Still, I think that the
50:55Speaker 3still a 21 year old man is still a growing
50:59Speaker 3is still growing, dude. I think that,
51:03Speaker 3like, I wouldn't do any I wouldn't do any test. I would I'd say the Wolverine blend. Okay?
51:09Speaker 3The thing is, though, the water isn't very high impact. I'd say, basically, any other sport is takes a toll on your body. Now those of you who have played water polo are probably gonna be like, damn, bullshit. You get it hurts a lot. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Never played. It doesn't stop me. Like yeah, I know. And then maybe I do. But,
51:25Speaker 3to help just recover any in any injuries, anybody who's playing sports enough and lifting weights enough and training
51:31Speaker 3is accumulating a lots of small little injuries. So the Wolverine blend is great.
51:37Speaker 3You know, I think that so,
51:40Speaker 3again, you just test your check the testing, but I think SLU-3P would be an awesome a, like, performance enhancer
51:48Speaker 3and also really good for the nutrient partitioning so your body doesn't burn off, like, all of your muscle as you're as you're swimming around and fighting people underwater.
51:57Speaker 3I would say that Cardenaring would be the the absolute choice, but pretty sure that's banned by WADA, and you shouldn't be taking but it would you would kick ass if you're just doing this recreationally.
52:07Speaker 3You'll see a huge difference doing cartoon.
52:11Speaker 3I don't know, man. Eat a lot of protein.
52:14Speaker 2Take some creatine for sure. And That's where I was going. That's how I was gonna say it. That's where let's keep it simple, man. Eat a shit ton.
52:21Speaker 2Creatine. You can shoot a little creatine
52:23Speaker 2and let
52:25Speaker 2your body just do what a 21 year old body does. It heals itself, dude. Cause we get that question
52:30Speaker 2so much. And I'll always answer it from
52:34Speaker 2if it were my boys, you know, I would have no problem with them at 21 taking
52:40Speaker 2Wolverine. I think in high school, I would probably, if they have some type of tear, I wish I had it in high school.
52:46Speaker 2Oh, yeah. And that's the only thing that I would Absolutely. They don't need any secretagogues.
52:49Speaker 2They sure as hell don't need any testosterone.
52:51Speaker 2You wanna stay clear of because all that
52:53Speaker 2we're getting questions from parents constantly about those 2, even HGH.
52:57Speaker 2No. Mm-mm. I wouldn't with my boys.
53:00Speaker 2Their bodies are
53:02Speaker 2gonna heal super quick. Just keep it simple. Creatine,
53:05Speaker 2shitload of protein, eat, eat, eat, and
53:09Speaker 2I think work out. And that's where I would leave it. You could do, baby, super good because it's the it's give you a lot of stamina.
53:16Speaker 2But other than that, right, keep it simple.
53:19Speaker 3Yeah. Yep.
53:20Speaker 3Yep. Which is, yep. I would agree. So, hey, also, the perimenopause,
53:25Speaker 3I thought I had I had created a
53:28Speaker 3my version of stack and presentation
53:31Speaker 3to put on school, and I don't think we've posted it yet. I was just looking. So I will
53:36Speaker 3I'll put mine up there, and then we can make 1 what JD thinks also. So those will be up there. So folks watching this, if you want to,
53:44Speaker 3instead of rewinding a whole bunch of times, right, soon in the next couple days, those will be up on our school, and you can take your time and look through them and complete with
53:54Speaker 3dosing recommendations
53:56Speaker 3and explanations as to why.
53:58Speaker 2Alright? So
53:59Speaker 2that will be Everybody up has, Will has put so much freaking education
54:04Speaker 2on school. Wow. And not
54:06Speaker 2that many people are digging around. They're going in like, they're looking at it like social
54:10Speaker 2media and they're commenting and stuff, and that's rad. We love it. That's why we started it. But like, he's put so much damn information
54:17Speaker 2on there. Click around, go into the classroom, look at all those things. It
54:21Speaker 2is a ton of stuff on there that'll answer a lot of your questions and it's taken a shitload of time. So poke around a bit.
54:29Speaker 3There's a lot of have more to come. I would say that probably 90% of the work that I have done is is not quite on school yet. It's about 90 everything is like, I tend to do things like create a whole bunch of stuff about 95%
54:40Speaker 3of the way there.
54:42Speaker 2And
54:43Speaker 3then so,
54:45Speaker 3there is a whole lot more to
54:47Speaker 3to come, but but there is a lot on there. And you're probably right, JD. A lot of questions can be just answered with a little bit of,
54:55Speaker 3a little bit more effort.
54:57Speaker 2Yeah.
54:58Speaker 3Clicking
54:59Speaker 3a few more buttons and getting to the place you need to get.
55:02Speaker 3Classroom. Classroom is what you're looking for, folks, on school.
55:06Speaker 3Classroom.
55:07Speaker 3And then a lot of, like, really complex
55:10Speaker 3things are in the premium membership, which is $25 a month, which
55:15Speaker 3I don't there's no don't I could care less if you wanna argue. That's well
55:21Speaker 3that's money well spent
55:22Speaker 2for the amount of information you're stuff, and we're gonna continue to add to that. I mean, I think we told you this, but if you're new, like, we Will and I both throughout, you know, like a steroid stack,
55:32Speaker 2and that's not we're not condoning it. We have questions constantly, so we're gonna give people what they want. That's in the VIP because that's just where that goes. And like we talked about a cutting stack for gear,
55:45Speaker 2and he talked about a bulking stack for gear. And again, I'm be
55:49Speaker 2make my point, we're not saying you should do any gear. We get countless questions and we wanna give people
55:55Speaker 2that stuff that they're asking for.
55:57Speaker 2So those are the types of things that you're gonna get in there
56:00Speaker 2that you're just not gonna get in the free 1 because it takes a lot of work, as you just said. I mean, the amount of information and time that it takes to put together for Will, he's super, like, particular too. So, like, it takes a lot of his time, so
56:14Speaker 2that's why. And it's way worth it. Yep. Just for that stuff. It's worth it. Yep. Try to keep improving, improving, improving the experience for everybody.
56:21Speaker 2New newsletter's out, so
56:24Speaker 2jump on that as well.
56:26Speaker 2Am I missing anything?
56:27Speaker 3I don't
56:28Speaker 3think so.
56:30Speaker 3Happy 4th of July, everybody. Celebrate America's independence.
56:35Speaker 3Too loud. That's why we celebrate.
56:37Speaker 3Trying to burn anybody's houses down, but have fun and relax and,
56:41Speaker 3in Huntington Beach where we live is pretty it's,
56:44Speaker 3it's a pretty cool 4th of July spot. What's the best 4th of July place that you've been to that does 4th of July the best? You ever been to vacation on 0.25 of July anywhere? That's amazing.
56:53Speaker 2He's pretty up there, dude. Like, I don't know. I I I don't enjoy like riding bikes downtown to the chaos anymore. I mean, I just love it when we were a bit younger.
57:02Speaker 2You know, now it's like, it's hard to explain to people that have never seen Huntington Beach downtown on 4th of July. You can't even walk.
57:10Speaker 2It's But
57:11Speaker 2for the people that are like in their teens and like up to like mid twenties,
57:16Speaker 2it's awesome.
57:18Speaker 3Yeah, be careful though folks. 2 years ago, I literally saw somebody just die in front of my eyes in Huntington Beach in traffic.
57:24Speaker 3And so just be careful, everybody. I went to I've done I've I've I spent 4th of July in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, Washington. I mean, I don't know. Duh.
57:34Speaker 3They do it pretty they it's impressive
57:37Speaker 3July 4 because that's a beautiful spot
57:41Speaker 3but that was that was really impressive and cool, but Huntington's Beach, yeah, it's a it's a straight war zone like I know it is in a lot of places also, but,
57:50Speaker 3you know, it's like if you're riding bikes, you will get hit with water balloons everywhere and you should have some of your own and like squirt guns and assist everybody. Yeah.
57:59Speaker 2Love where we live, man. Well, cool. Alright, I fly home tomorrow.
58:04Speaker 2Everybody else, have an amazing weekend,
58:07Speaker 2and we'll see you next time. Cool. Good night.