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0:04Speaker 0Man, has it been a week? Feels like we just recorded this yesterday, dude. Yeah, I know. It does. At least come quick. Yeah, time is going very fast. Well, it's funny, Will, I'm looking outside of my window right now and it's all cloudy outside. Don't we live at the beach? What's going on here? I do.
0:20Speaker 0And now it's June gloom though. Doesn't God know that it's summertime coming up on summertime?
0:25Speaker 1It's always a tease. You know, I always find May is nice and then we get ready for summer and then June goes
0:33Speaker 1foggy. But so far, HGH, it's just been in the morning. Yeah, yeah. It's been beautiful the rest of the day. I know it has. Yesterday was gorgeous, man. And we were in the office all day. I know.
1:05Speaker 0back here is my good friend and Warrior Maker business partner. You know him, William Teahaw. Welcome back, buddy. Good to be here.
1:15Speaker 0Nice to be here. This is gonna be a good subject, man. And I, I know that it's a little warm up to what we're talking about. Will has been into peptides for a very long time.
1:24Speaker 0And I remember quite a while ago, he was always telling me to start digging into these GLP-1s.
1:32Speaker 0Man, I'm never gonna be taking a weight loss. Don't need to dig into any of that stuff, you know? But it's funny. He was right. As soon as I started just kind of opening to my mind and reading about them, they are freaking amazing, man. They just really are. They have such rad benefits.
1:50Speaker 0let's be honest, man, everybody's addicted to sugar. Everybody is addicted to these types of things. And these GLP-one
2:01Speaker 0help people get out of that, and just be a crutch to kind of boost them forward. So we'll dig into that. We'll dig into that. So,
2:08Speaker 0Will, tell us a little bit. We're gonna focus on tirzepatide today, but like I said, we'll talk about the other 2, but let's talk a little bit. What is tirzepatide?
2:40Speaker 1really does only a few things. It slows down your gastric emptying. So I'm gonna really try to
2:57Speaker 1down the food going through your intestines. Right? And so when you eat 6 hours later, as that food has not really gone very far, you're still full.
3:06Speaker 1Okay? We're still full, so we so people say, well, I don't need to eat. Right? That signal goes to brain and brain says, yeah, you're full. You're good. It lowers
3:52Speaker 1I mean, 1 of the biggest things, it has like anti nausea properties. So it really, really, really cuts down the nausea that the semaglutide causes.
4:03Speaker 1have tried who switched from semaglutide to to zeptide who were on semaglutide for a while, they switch over and they mostly the response is like, my god, I didn't realize how
4:24Speaker 0Yeah, if you have to lose a lot of weight, I mean, you gotta weigh the pros and the cons, but there's some people
4:29Speaker 0that I know that are pretty wounded from the Semaglutide, the Ozempic, just because they were so nauseous. Like, even so trying to talk them into trying to choose appetite or even a Retatrutide, there's
4:40Speaker 1For sure, residual trauma and- Yeah, know I mean? And horror stories that came along with not eating. We can talk about that. But so the tirzepatide, so activating the GIP receptor, okay, adds in a whole bunch of anti nausea.
4:54Speaker 1It also then kind of attacks your brown fat cells and helps, which is our bad fat. Right? It really does help
5:07Speaker 1like, to semaglutide all alone did not do. Right? Which is huge. I mean, that's amazing. Yeah. Like, we guess what, guys? We people like, yeah. Well, I burn so much fat. No. No. Your body burns fat.
5:28Speaker 1there is all of the you know, everybody said, well, I don't want my bones to get less dense. I don't you know, all of these negative thing, people's like sight is is decreasing.
5:39Speaker 1Oh, I can't believe, you know, Semaglutide, you would take that because that causes all that. That doesn't cause that. What causes that is malnutrition.
5:50Speaker 0It's already- Sunken in face. I mean, like, not- might be a bad comparison, but like a tweaker man, they're all sucked up because they don't eat. So if you take Semaglutide and you're losing all this weight, that's amazing, but you gotta remember to eat. I mean, geez, so I think that's the big, like you said that,
6:20Speaker 1and it works differently for some people, man. Some people are really sensitive to to this and some and some people need a lot more.
6:43Speaker 1for food. There are actually I've read some studies recently that they're starting to use this and retatrutide
6:57Speaker 0Which, let's sit on that for a 2nd because that's a really important thing. Let's sit on that for a 2nd because again, the
7:05Speaker 0problem that we have, all of us, every single 1 of us is that food is poison. I mean, you got seed oils and everything.
7:12Speaker 0Everything's caked in sugar or seed oils, whatever. And it's making everybody sick and fat and overweight and sluggish, I can go on and on and on. So if somebody needs
7:23Speaker 0that little boost to kind of get forward and kind of like kickstart that fire to change,
7:29Speaker 0if a tirzepatide or Retrutide does that, so be it, man. I mean, there's so many benefits behind that, but I think that 1 is
7:37Speaker 0good to focus on to just, like you said, to change your eating habits and to change your taste buds and to change some of the things that you crave.
7:47Speaker 0I've taken it, I've taken them both. I can tell you that I've experienced it. I really have. It really does begin to,
7:56Speaker 0and we will dig into a little bit in regards to the comparison of the Retatrutide and Retrutide on how you feel.
8:05Speaker 0and let's dig into this, it'll be a good I'm going hand this over to you. So the more appetite suppression
8:26Speaker 1and said, hey, I don't think it's working as good. Right? And they say as working as good is because it's not it's not killing off their appetite. Right. Well. Right. The
8:36Speaker 1truth is, like, studies have they've they've done studies and this is semi approximate,
9:26Speaker 1retatradide is not curbing my appetite as well as tirzepatide. Well, the thing with retatradide, it has a ton of,
9:40Speaker 1with How's working? Nausea and nauseous they are. So tirzepatide, you're gonna be a little bit more nauseous, and of course, don't wanna eat. Right?
9:52Speaker 1So your Brent, you go, okay. Hey. I could eat. The fact is though, when you do eat, you get full
10:02Speaker 1And that is what and people are just kind of unwilling. Right? They there's they want they want instant results now, and so they're unwilling to,
10:13Speaker 1Eat small frequent meals. Yeah. You can do that for a month. Build a habit and now watch what your body actually does instead of Right. Just starving yourself.
10:27Speaker 0So, you know, for people that are thinking of either 1 of them, you know, I mean, it kind of depends. Everybody's gonna be different. As Will said, we're all a science project. You have to see what works for you, what's going to be the best for you psychologically
10:50Speaker 0have as much craving for the food, right? It does suppress it compared to a Retatrutide because I have taken them both. So here's the difference. The Retatrutide,
11:05Speaker 0you just get full very quickly. And that is weird for me because I eat a lot. I fast a lot. So when I sit down to eat, my wife calls it feeding time. I eat a lot and you will never see me leave
11:16Speaker 0food on my plate ever. And I have been leaving a lot of food on my plate because you just get full, right? So that would be the difference is
11:25Speaker 0you do, at least my experience with just trying them both is, Retatrutide, you do feel hungry. You do. I actually get pretty hungry. You
11:35Speaker 0Where it's your appetite, you're probably there will be more people that are just not hungry at all. Right? Is that a good way to explain that? That's a very good way to explain it. Right. And then without saying being redundant.
11:49Speaker 1if you really don't wanna eat anything but still feel okay, if you not feel super nauseous, like, I guess, here's the 1st thing. People, I would just never take semaglutide.
11:58Speaker 1K? Yeah. I 2nd that. It's outdated and it's tough. That's just old news. There's no point in taking it. 1,
12:27Speaker 1mg. Okay? Which listen to what he said, 0.25 mg compared to 2.5 mg. That's a big difference. Right. So when I say 10 mg is the equivalent of 1 mg, it's not really 10 times. It's about
12:50Speaker 1and not eat and lose a lot of weight, essentially go on a crash diet that is sustainable because you're still taking it. Right. Tirzepatide
13:01Speaker 1If you are 1 who wants to or still working out and you need nutrients and you need to eat protein, right, and you ever if you want to build any muscle,
13:11Speaker 1go with Retatrutide because you need to eat some food. It will allow you to eat food. It just makes you just essentially forces you to eat healthy the right way. Yeah. Right? And the right way is small portions.
13:22Speaker 0Yeah. And and, you know, for those that don't know, Will and I own a peptide company called Warrior Makers, and we come across a lot of different people. And sometimes he will have a little bit slightly different approach than me, blah, blah, blah. But I
13:34Speaker 0would say from my standpoint and where you can chime in and give your opinion on this is how I've been working with people that I come across.
13:50Speaker 0those people generally have a problem with food and their cravings are strong and the tirzepatide will
14:02Speaker 0think, Will and I both will agree on this, our goal will always be to mold them into Retatrutide because it's a far superior product in both of our opinions. I think I talked for you on that. But Tirzepatide
14:24Speaker 0and especially the people that work out. If you're definitely a gym rat, you definitely wanna do the Retatrutide.
14:38Speaker 1but absolutely, I would agree. You know, when I was playing college football and I had to gain 30, 40 pounds, right, the goal was to
14:52Speaker 1would stretch out. And then 2 weeks later, 3 weeks later, my capacity for for food intake would get more and more and more and more. Well, kind of what we're trying to do is the opposite here too. Right? Our stomachs will
15:12Speaker 1health and actual health. Right? And so if we can start with your zepatide, you start eating less and less. Okay? But we're still eating food. Okay? I'm not I'm not telling anybody to starve here. But, hey, our our stomach is gonna start shrinking down. Right? And then you
15:28Speaker 1then we can switch to Retatrutide and also with the help of that of that, it's gonna keep your food intake minimal.
15:39Speaker 1and right now, there is no real recommendation of, hey, you need to stop at this point. Right? Right.
15:50Speaker 1they are basically putting everybody on a kind of a maintenance program. Now, the goal to get off is slowly wean down, right?
15:57Speaker 1But the point is we built really good habits, right, mental and physical great eating habits,
16:07Speaker 1And as we slowly wean down, that will naturally start to make you feel you'll start to feel full as long as you don't just binge and stretch that guy out.
16:28Speaker 0It's if you starve yourself and have no nutrients, that's what's bad for you. Yeah. So if we cut out semaglutide and then we take that out of the equation, I think on both tirzepatide and reticotrad,
16:46Speaker 0everybody's a little different, so you can try them both. You know, you can see which 1 can you connect with. I mean, that's 1 of the things that Will
16:53Speaker 0and I have done for years on all kinds of different supplements. We see what our bodies respond to. And when we find a sweet spot, we stick with the sweet spot. You know, for example, to take a hard left on testosterone replacement,
17:04Speaker 0I've been at 180 for a long time simply because that's my sweet spot. But like it took me trial and error to get to that sweet spot. You know what I mean? And that's what I would recommend for anybody with any type of peptide or anything. You're
17:45Speaker 1is and we've we've we've discussed this and tried this on some people is introducing both at the same time, right? Yeah. So- Right. So starting Tirzepatide,
18:01Speaker 0Everybody's been different. That's been something we've been implementing with some people now for, it's been, I think, and they've been, they've, they like it, you know, and I think that's a really good approach, but everybody's gonna be a little different, man, you know?
18:15Speaker 0This one's a good 1 on this. This, generally speaking on the peptides, we're generally going to say, should take it and who should not? And you generally want to say, Everybody should take it. But let's dig into this 1 that exists. This answer might be a little bit different.
18:27Speaker 0So who should be taking this product? And let's talk about the tirzepatide. Who would you say should be taking tirzepatide?
18:57Speaker 1There are some people like that, like, you know, that that just have the problem, and they can work out all day long but just cannot
19:06Speaker 0anybody who Tirzepatide, anybody who needs to lose a considerable amount of weight, 30 plus pounds, I think is a good number. And if somebody's listening to this, you know, we're not doctors, so, you know, go talk to your doctor and do all that stuff for sure. So you know that. But we have talked to a lot of people. We both tried them and we have dealt with a lot of people in regards to kind of helping them with this type of stuff.
19:28Speaker 0these, you know, and you need a lot of lose a lot of weight, it will help you. Like, that's I'm gonna just cut to the chase. It will help you and you will see immediate results.
19:37Speaker 0And you get that snowball spinning down the hill in a positive form and you pick up steam. And if you're someone that doesn't like going to the gym, well, when you start losing weight, you start getting a psychological
19:48Speaker 0effect of that and you probably will start working out and start exercising because you feel better and you start seeing results
19:56Speaker 0and then you're gonna wanna see more results and expediting. So it is a chain reaction. So if this is the fire, the spark that lights that fire of change,
20:12Speaker 0you know, especially even Retatrutide, it's think it's a scientific breakthrough, man. It is just a it's just such a good product. I mean, you have
20:20Speaker 0you have even bodybuilders taking it and guys that are gym rats, which again, that a lot of people don't even realize that. They think it's just a weight loss drug. Absolutely not. I've been taking it. I'm pretty good shape.
20:32Speaker 0You know, I do find it harder to bulk up, you know, but now I just eat past the point of being satiated.
20:43Speaker 0that it's not just for weight loss, it's for across the spectrum. There's a place for it in most people's arsenal, so to speak. Don't you agree?
20:56Speaker 1we haven't really told the extra benefits of of Retatrutide because the point of this video isn't on that, but
21:02Speaker 1personally, I think 1 of the huge thing the last thing with retatrutide is it adds in 0.333 receptor, right, which is your GCG,
21:20Speaker 1the thing that I like about it is there are times, man, I get busy and I forget to eat, you know, and I don't eat for 6 hours.
21:27Speaker 1And as I get older, I don't know what it is, but, man, my brain is super dependent on food. When I was young, I could not eat. I could go run around. It didn't matter. It didn't really affect my mood. But nowadays,
21:45Speaker 1The crazy thing is when I have Retatrutide on it, it basically balances out my blood sugar in my brain for me. So It does. Right. Go 6 hours and don't eat, and normally, I'm hangry and frustrated and can't really think. Like, I don't get that. My brain stays
22:05Speaker 0like, really which is crucial. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's I would say that some of the things it's probably not even talked about just because the objective for most is to lose weight or burn fat, but I
22:16Speaker 0feel like my brain fires on it. I feel like I am on top of it more than I have been in quite some time. I wasn't expecting that part of it, you know? So that's a good point to make, man. Agreed. Agreed.
22:30Speaker 0So, okay, so pretty much people overweight, I just tapped in and I just said, even gym rats and guys that are trying to lean out, so anybody
22:38Speaker 0from the spectrum, is there anybody that you can think of, and this is the fun question always,
22:44Speaker 0that should not be taking it? Any people if they have heart problems, any people that have, you know, people that are overweight, a lot of times have a lot of health issues. So this will be a good 1. So any anything you can think of of people that should not take it? Yes. Yes. If you if a person has any type of,
23:08Speaker 1for my my mother. My mother's this 1 per she just doesn't eat normally, and she just stays lean and mean, but, like, she's the last it will, like, free there has been studies of, like, frozen gut where food just stops.
23:22Speaker 1From these these these From these. From these. I've been with that. The GLP 1 part probably mostly mostly from the from semaglutide
23:29Speaker 1because people really aren't eating. And so I guess I mean, again, you don't exercise a muscle, and it can learn stop
23:36Speaker 1learning how to function. So if you don't put anything down those intestines for a while, they don't know how to push food down. So anybody who already
23:56Speaker 1working as fast as they should. And so I would not give it to would not give it to her. Anybody who is all nutrient deficient,
24:10Speaker 1And sometimes these can make that a bit harder, especially tirzepatide and semaglutide.
24:19Speaker 1You might not be getting all the nutrients. It's a very, very good idea to take nutrient, to take multivitamins.
24:27Speaker 1Keep that. Keep your system, your intestines used to having things go down them. Yeah.
24:33Speaker 0I'll tell I'll tell you with the experience that I have. I can't say that everybody's experienced this, but let me just kind of give you mine.
24:43Speaker 0maybe 10 days was woah, and like I was not hungry at all, and I was not prepared for it, I was about ready to jump shit, but luckily I stayed on because that irons out fairly quickly,
24:53Speaker 0you do, do. So I've had some of the people that, you know, I've talked to about it, so they have had that same experience. So just understand your
25:04Speaker 0Needs to kind of find it and that's all done at its own pace. We all find that stuff at its own pace. But that's why Will and I are gonna always, you know, I know I can speak for him on this, start slow, start low.
25:16Speaker 0You can always go up, you know, and let's talk about that. Let's go into the Doches because
25:31Speaker 01 large dose a week. Let's talk about that on our opinion or your opinion and what we think has worked better for quite a few people or many people. Okay, sure.
25:54Speaker 1To sell to the masses of people, people don't like doing injections. Right? Less injections makes things easier for people.
26:05Speaker 1if you're trying to sell this product, to say, hey. Just take this. All you gotta do is 1 time a week. Right?
26:14Speaker 1you know, the day that you do it, I think the, you know, onset's really almost the next day is when it's gonna really hit you the most. But but the truth is it doesn't just stay perfectly level throughout your body. Right? It is going to dissipate a little bit until we do their next 1 next week and then go down. So the name of the game is level
26:39Speaker 1I But think and plus is this level. So the tirzepatide and especially retatatide are burning fat. Okay? So I have noticed that a lot of people will notice it it wearing off after 4 days or so.
26:58Speaker 1Heck, inject every day would probably be the best, folks. It probably that would probably make everything work the best. But if we want the fat burning properties to work, what's the point of having it work for 4 days and then not for 3 if we can do it 3 days a week and get fat burning 7 days a week? Well, I think you tapped on it. I think that's the main point of what you just said is that they
27:18Speaker 0knew that, you know, to get people to inject anything would be difficult and they want to sell their products. So let's just think logically for a 2nd.
27:36Speaker 0probably study that because the people we talked to, they want to do more injections because it works. So it's like they want to, so trust me. You know what I mean? Because they're doing something that works like, let's do more human nature.
27:48Speaker 0You know what mean? Yeah. So yeah, that's good. So we recommend generally for most people that, you know, it's a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I think you can microdose it even down like Will said to the day, but again, trial and error, you're a silent project, you see what works for you and you're only gonna know if you try things. And obviously, you know, hey, it'll cut down on the
28:08Speaker 1you know, it's logical that if you give yourself a whole bunch of something that gives you nausea, it's probably gonna make you more nauseous versus
28:19Speaker 1You know, 1 thing that we didn't that you you said who should not take this? So retatrutide
28:38Speaker 1the good people at Eli Lilly are and good for them. Good job, guys. I mean, we don't wanna I don't wanna we're not here to bag on them. They've made this product and spent a ton of money on
28:53Speaker 1so but there is the potential of Retatrutide to increase your heart rate a little bit and those who have any preexisting heart conditions, I won't say any, but doctors know better than me, so please look into this. If you have any kind of heart heart issue,
29:07Speaker 1but it has a potential to kind of raise your heart rate a little bit. That can be mitigated by when you do increase your dose to just don't
29:29Speaker 1thousand, 1000 people at least who have taken this and I haven't had a single person tell me there's been a problem
29:45Speaker 0think of it like this. If you have heart issues, generally speaking, you're probably greatly overweight or probably.
29:58Speaker 0bring that and start to kind of rectify some of that stuff, in my opinion. You know what I mean? I mean,
30:04Speaker 1yeah, it's so true. Like everything is going to work. It's a domino effect, guys, on everything. Men,
30:10Speaker 1men, hey, if you have more fat, right, you have higher estrogen and lower testosterone. If you can get rid of that fat, guess what? Your testosterone starts climbing up, your estrogen, you know, and the less estrogen you have, the better your body will actually more testosterone you have, now your body will burn fat even better, right? So this is just it's a domino effect
30:35Speaker 0Let's tap into and kind of wrap this up because we're about 30 minutes. Let's tap in really quickly on what your opinion is. And this is an easy question because there's so many, but what peptides would you stack? And we're talking about Tirzepatide here. What peptides would you recommend on a stack?
30:55Speaker 1I mean, goodness. Mean, obviously, easiest question is, what's your objectives? Like, what are you gonna do? I mean, what what's the objective? My guess is the objective is to cut weight, is to burn fat.
31:15Speaker 1It tells your body that it is that it's exercising and all the other good processes, the nutrient partitioning that come with that.
31:23Speaker 1AOD would be great. AOD would be good. It's a fragment of the HGH chain, right? It's the tail end of the HGH chain that burns fat and only burns fat.
31:37Speaker 1it at night. I think with sleep, I would take it 3 times a day, right? Again, hey, if your body, if you can trick your body to think it's exercising, might as well do it all day long, right? Yeah, absolutely.
31:50Speaker 1Help will break down your fat, right? Make it easier to be actually be burnt off. Yeah. MOTS-1C would be a good 1. MOTS-17.5 again, it gives you more energy in your mitochondria or to help burn fat. Not peptides, I think that just everybody is better with their hormones optimized.
32:07Speaker 1Right? That means men have some healthy testosterone. How whatever means you do that by,
32:21Speaker 0want to sit on that for a 2nd because I think that we haven't even tapped on that as much as we need to really like shine a light on what you just said.
32:34Speaker 0if you don't have your hormones optimized in regards to your testosterone and your estrogen and all the free testosterone and all those things checked,
32:51Speaker 0hormones in line. You know what I mean? And if you're 1 of those guys that are just so against testosterone
32:56Speaker 0and placement, I mean, I don't understand it by any means. It's hard for me to catch up to those guys, but go to the doctor, get your blood work, get your testosterone checked, your free testosterone checked, your estrogen checked,
33:09Speaker 0And that'll tell you if you should get on testosterone. I'm not telling you you should or you shouldn't. I'm not a doctor. I'm just telling you, you should know. At least you can make an educated decision. Yep.
33:19Speaker 0And if you get your hormones in line and start throwing in some of these peptides that Will and I have been talking about weekly,
33:25Speaker 0you literally will start to feel like a different human because again, these are just chains of amino acids, man. These are not steroids
33:47Speaker 1It's just the truth. Yep. It's amazing. It's amazing. And everybody out to, yes, we got do a little experiments on ourselves. So some
34:10Speaker 0because the people that are against this type of stuff and actually paying for peptides and things like that, well, doctor's visits are expensive.
34:18Speaker 0Taking a lot of antibiotics and all the stuff the doctors seem to prescribe you, those yield different chain reactions down the road, and you're going to be paying rather now or then, in my opinion. So I would say,
34:30Speaker 0try 1, try 2, then you're going to start to open the door and you're going to feel like a different person. You know, if you start with a GLP-one,
34:42Speaker 0and you will be blown away and you will start saying, It's a scientific breakthrough, Like we say, you really will notice it quickly. Either 1, both of them will work well. And it's okay, folks. Like, I told again, we'll wrap this up, but JD was against that. But I said, I understand because you are all about
34:59Speaker 1discipline and just and and and I my willpower can do it. But guess what, dude? Like, not everybody I took not everybody is like you. Right? We all have a cross to bear,
35:35Speaker 0for the people that have been thinking about it, just try it. You are not gonna know until you just try it. You know what? If you don't like it, you can stop.
35:47Speaker 0it, man. It's a peptide. Ain't gonna hurt you. So well, right on, man. I like this 1. I like this 1. So that was a good 1. Will,
35:54Speaker 0I'm gonna be heading in the office soon. So I will see you soon and everybody else, we will catch you next week.