Peptide of the Week: Tirzepatide Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-tirzepatide/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week. 0:04 Speaker 0: Man, has it been a week? Feels like we just recorded this yesterday, dude. Yeah, I know. It does. At least come quick. Yeah, time is going very fast. Well, it's funny, Will, I'm looking outside of my window right now and it's all cloudy outside. Don't we live at the beach? What's going on here? I do. 0:20 Speaker 0: And now it's June gloom though. Doesn't God know that it's summertime coming up on summertime? 0:25 Speaker 1: It's always a tease. You know, I always find May is nice and then we get ready for summer and then June goes 0:33 Speaker 1: foggy. But so far, HGH, it's just been in the morning. Yeah, yeah. It's been beautiful the rest of the day. I know it has. Yesterday was gorgeous, man. And we were in the office all day. I know. 0:43 Speaker 0: Yeah. But this week it is gonna be a good 1, man. I think 0:47 Speaker 0: that everybody is gonna be interested in this 1. It's the infamous GLP-one 0:52 Speaker 0: peptides. 0:53 Speaker 0: We're gonna be talking about tirzepatide. 0:56 Speaker 0: And we will do a little bit of comparison 0:59 Speaker 0: to maybe a Semaglutide and a Retatrutide just because we need to. 1:03 Speaker 0: So 1:05 Speaker 0: back here is my good friend and Warrior Maker business partner. You know him, William Teahaw. Welcome back, buddy. Good to be here. 1:15 Speaker 0: Nice to be here. This is gonna be a good subject, man. And I, I know that it's a little warm up to what we're talking about. Will has been into peptides for a very long time. 1:24 Speaker 0: And I remember quite a while ago, he was always telling me to start digging into these GLP-1s. 1:29 Speaker 0: He was telling me forever, and I would always think, 1:32 Speaker 0: Man, I'm never gonna be taking a weight loss. Don't need to dig into any of that stuff, you know? But it's funny. He was right. As soon as I started just kind of opening to my mind and reading about them, they are freaking amazing, man. They just really are. They have such rad benefits. 1:47 Speaker 0: And 1:48 Speaker 0: in today's age, 1:50 Speaker 0: let's be honest, man, everybody's addicted to sugar. Everybody is addicted to these types of things. And these GLP-one 1:58 Speaker 0: peptides really are going to be 2:01 Speaker 0: help people get out of that, and just be a crutch to kind of boost them forward. So we'll dig into that. We'll dig into that. So, 2:08 Speaker 0: Will, tell us a little bit. We're gonna focus on tirzepatide today, but like I said, we'll talk about the other 2, but let's talk a little bit. What is tirzepatide? 2:15 Speaker 0: Give me the kind of breakdown what it is. 2:17 Speaker 1: Alright, so 2:19 Speaker 1: tirzepatide 2:20 Speaker 1: is 2:23 Speaker 1: well, it's so 2:24 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of history. So we started with semaglutide. 2:27 Speaker 1: Okay? Semaglutide 2:29 Speaker 1: is, and everybody has heard about that, it's Ozempic, 2:33 Speaker 1: which acts on 2:35 Speaker 1: your 2:36 Speaker 1: GLP-one 2:37 Speaker 1: receptors, 2:39 Speaker 1: which 2:40 Speaker 1: really does only a few things. It slows down your gastric emptying. So I'm gonna really try to 2:47 Speaker 1: use layman's terms and 2:49 Speaker 1: and make this relatable, but 2:51 Speaker 1: it essentially 2:52 Speaker 1: all the food that we eat, we know we have miles of intestines. Right? It just slows 2:57 Speaker 1: down the food going through your intestines. Right? And so when you eat 6 hours later, as that food has not really gone very far, you're still full. 3:06 Speaker 1: Okay? We're still full, so we so people say, well, I don't need to eat. Right? That signal goes to brain and brain says, yeah, you're full. You're good. It lowers 3:17 Speaker 1: it can lower your insulin sensitivity, 3:19 Speaker 1: which is a good thing, 3:21 Speaker 1: but primarily 3:23 Speaker 1: that's what it does. 3:26 Speaker 0: Talking about semaglutide, 3:27 Speaker 0: like that's what it does. That's it. Yeah. Okay. It activates your GLP-one 3:30 Speaker 1: receptor. That's it. Tirzepatide 3:33 Speaker 1: has 3:34 Speaker 1: is leaps and bounds 3:36 Speaker 1: better mostly 3:38 Speaker 1: because of the anti nausea, but basically g l so tirzepatide has a GLP-one 3:42 Speaker 1: also, and now they have added 3:45 Speaker 1: their 3:46 Speaker 1: it acting on your GIP 3:48 Speaker 1: receptor, 3:49 Speaker 1: okay, which does a few things that, 3:52 Speaker 1: I mean, 1 of the biggest things, it has like anti nausea properties. So it really, really, really cuts down the nausea that the semaglutide causes. 4:01 Speaker 1: And 4:03 Speaker 1: people 4:03 Speaker 1: have tried who switched from semaglutide to to zeptide who were on semaglutide for a while, they switch over and they mostly the response is like, my god, I didn't realize how 4:12 Speaker 1: bad I felt all day long. Like how nauseous I was 4:17 Speaker 1: all day. This is amazing. 4:20 Speaker 1: That nausea, I guess, was worth it to people though. 4:24 Speaker 0: Yeah, if you have to lose a lot of weight, I mean, you gotta weigh the pros and the cons, but there's some people 4:29 Speaker 0: that I know that are pretty wounded from the Semaglutide, the Ozempic, just because they were so nauseous. Like, even so trying to talk them into trying to choose appetite or even a Retatrutide, there's 4:39 Speaker 0: residual- 4:40 Speaker 1: For sure, residual trauma and- Yeah, know I mean? And horror stories that came along with not eating. We can talk about that. But so the tirzepatide, so activating the GIP receptor, okay, adds in a whole bunch of anti nausea. 4:54 Speaker 1: It also then kind of attacks your brown fat cells and helps, which is our bad fat. Right? It really does help 5:01 Speaker 1: break down and and burn fat, 5:04 Speaker 1: which 5:06 Speaker 1: GLP-one, 5:07 Speaker 1: like, to semaglutide all alone did not do. Right? Which is huge. I mean, that's amazing. Yeah. Like, we guess what, guys? We people like, yeah. Well, I burn so much fat. No. No. Your body burns fat. 5:18 Speaker 1: Like, 5:19 Speaker 1: when we don't when a human being does not eat, 5:23 Speaker 1: we lose weight. 5:25 Speaker 1: You you you basically are starving to death. And that is, 5:28 Speaker 1: there is all of the you know, everybody said, well, I don't want my bones to get less dense. I don't you know, all of these negative thing, people's like sight is is decreasing. 5:39 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe, you know, Semaglutide, you would take that because that causes all that. That doesn't cause that. What causes that is malnutrition. 5:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, the lack of nutrients. Like, if you don't eat, your body starts decaying. 5:49 Speaker 0: Yeah. 5:50 Speaker 0: It's already- Sunken in face. I mean, like, not- might be a bad comparison, but like a tweaker man, they're all sucked up because they don't eat. So if you take Semaglutide and you're losing all this weight, that's amazing, but you gotta remember to eat. I mean, geez, so I think that's the big, like you said that, 6:05 Speaker 0: from Semaglutide 6:06 Speaker 0: to Tirzepatide, 6:08 Speaker 0: leaps and bounds. Leaps and bounds. How much better? Leaps bounds. 6:11 Speaker 1: Leaps and bounds how much better people feel and they can now really live a life 6:17 Speaker 1: and 6:19 Speaker 1: still have 6:20 Speaker 1: and it works differently for some people, man. Some people are really sensitive to to this and some and some people need a lot more. 6:28 Speaker 1: It's 6:29 Speaker 1: you know, it will increase your insulin sensitivity again, 6:34 Speaker 1: and 6:36 Speaker 1: and it will start reducing 6:38 Speaker 1: cravings. 6:39 Speaker 1: It will start reducing cravings 6:41 Speaker 1: for for 6:43 Speaker 1: for food. There are actually I've read some studies recently that they're starting to use this and retatrutide 6:48 Speaker 1: mostly in addiction programs 6:52 Speaker 1: because, 6:54 Speaker 1: yes, starts changing your 6:56 Speaker 1: food choices. 6:57 Speaker 0: Which, let's sit on that for a 2nd because that's a really important thing. Let's sit on that for a 2nd because again, the 7:05 Speaker 0: problem that we have, all of us, every single 1 of us is that food is poison. I mean, you got seed oils and everything. 7:12 Speaker 0: Everything's caked in sugar or seed oils, whatever. And it's making everybody sick and fat and overweight and sluggish, I can go on and on and on. So if somebody needs 7:23 Speaker 0: that little boost to kind of get forward and kind of like kickstart that fire to change, 7:29 Speaker 0: if a tirzepatide or Retrutide does that, so be it, man. I mean, there's so many benefits behind that, but I think that 1 is 7:37 Speaker 0: good to focus on to just, like you said, to change your eating habits and to change your taste buds and to change some of the things that you crave. 7:47 Speaker 0: I've taken it, I've taken them both. I can tell you that I've experienced it. I really have. It really does begin to, 7:56 Speaker 0: and we will dig into a little bit in regards to the comparison of the Retatrutide and Retrutide on how you feel. 8:01 Speaker 0: But I would say like, for example, it's going to be more 8:05 Speaker 0: and let's dig into this, it'll be a good I'm going hand this over to you. So the more appetite suppression 8:10 Speaker 0: per tirzepatide 8:12 Speaker 0: compared to the retrutide, 8:14 Speaker 0: but that's kind of a mine F, so to speak, because tell 8:18 Speaker 1: us why. Okay. So 8:21 Speaker 1: I have known people who have switched from tirzepatide 8:24 Speaker 1: to the retatrutide 8:26 Speaker 1: and said, hey, I don't think it's working as good. Right? And they say as working as good is because it's not it's not killing off their appetite. Right. Well. Right. The 8:36 Speaker 1: truth is, like, studies have they've they've done studies and this is semi approximate, 8:41 Speaker 1: but 8:42 Speaker 1: they're basically saying tirzepatide, 8:45 Speaker 1: the equivalent of the GLP-one activation, right, which 8:50 Speaker 1: is what slows the gastric emptying and that essentially is what curbs your appetite 8:54 Speaker 1: is the GLP-one, right? So 10 mg of tirzepatide would equal 1 mg of semaglutide. 9:00 Speaker 1: Okay? 9:01 Speaker 1: Retatrutide, 9:02 Speaker 1: it would take 7 9:04 Speaker 1: mg 9:05 Speaker 1: of retatrutide 9:06 Speaker 1: to to 1 mg of semaglutide. So the actual 9:11 Speaker 1: curbing of appetite and GLP-one 9:13 Speaker 1: activation is stronger with retatriotide. 9:17 Speaker 1: So, right, it is curbing your hunger. It's making you feel fuller longer and quicker 9:21 Speaker 1: than tirzepatide. 9:22 Speaker 1: So why do people say, 9:24 Speaker 1: hey, 9:26 Speaker 1: retatradide is not curbing my appetite as well as tirzepatide. Well, the thing with retatradide, it has a ton of, 9:33 Speaker 1: anti nausea Yeah. Coming into play. Okay? Right. And people are equating 9:37 Speaker 1: their hunger 9:40 Speaker 1: with How's working? Nausea and nauseous they are. So tirzepatide, you're gonna be a little bit more nauseous, and of course, don't wanna eat. Right? 9:48 Speaker 1: And whereas with retatrutide, 9:50 Speaker 1: you are not gonna feel nauseous. 9:52 Speaker 1: So your Brent, you go, okay. Hey. I could eat. The fact is though, when you do eat, you get full 9:58 Speaker 1: quick and you stay fuller 10:01 Speaker 1: longer. 10:02 Speaker 1: And that is what and people are just kind of unwilling. Right? They there's they want they want instant results now, and so they're unwilling to, 10:09 Speaker 1: hey, just stick with this, and now you get to actually eat some food. 10:13 Speaker 1: Eat small frequent meals. Yeah. You can do that for a month. Build a habit and now watch what your body actually does instead of Right. Just starving yourself. 10:24 Speaker 0: That would be the comparison, you know, the Tirzepatide. 10:27 Speaker 0: So, you know, for people that are thinking of either 1 of them, you know, I mean, it kind of depends. Everybody's gonna be different. As Will said, we're all a science project. You have to see what works for you, what's going to be the best for you psychologically 10:39 Speaker 0: and how your body responds, obviously. 10:43 Speaker 0: But you will notice more of that, the mind thing in regards to the tirzepatide 10:48 Speaker 0: to where you won't 10:50 Speaker 0: have as much craving for the food, right? It does suppress it compared to a Retatrutide because I have taken them both. So here's the difference. The Retatrutide, 10:58 Speaker 0: you still get really hungry. You kind of have the same hunger from my experience. 11:03 Speaker 0: But when you start eating, 11:05 Speaker 0: you just get full very quickly. And that is weird for me because I eat a lot. I fast a lot. So when I sit down to eat, my wife calls it feeding time. I eat a lot and you will never see me leave 11:16 Speaker 0: food on my plate ever. And I have been leaving a lot of food on my plate because you just get full, right? So that would be the difference is 11:25 Speaker 0: you do, at least my experience with just trying them both is, Retatrutide, you do feel hungry. You do. I actually get pretty hungry. You 11:32 Speaker 0: just start eating and go, I am done. 11:35 Speaker 0: Where it's your appetite, you're probably there will be more people that are just not hungry at all. Right? Is that a good way to explain that? That's a very good way to explain it. Right. And then without saying being redundant. 11:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, 11:49 Speaker 1: if you really don't wanna eat anything but still feel okay, if you not feel super nauseous, like, I guess, here's the 1st thing. People, I would just never take semaglutide. 11:58 Speaker 1: K? Yeah. I 2nd that. It's outdated and it's tough. That's just old news. There's no point in taking it. 1, 12:06 Speaker 1: I guess, 1 thing ought to be cleared up too is when I say, 12:10 Speaker 1: I'll get back to the other 1, 10 mg is equal to 1 mg. Well, the standard, 12:15 Speaker 1: it's not really 10 times as strong. The starting dose of semaglutide is 0.25 12:21 Speaker 1: of a milligram, whereas the starting dose of tirzepatide and retatrootide is 2.5 12:27 Speaker 1: mg. Okay? Which listen to what he said, 0.25 mg compared to 2.5 mg. That's a big difference. Right. So when I say 10 mg is the equivalent of 1 mg, it's not really 10 times. It's about 12:41 Speaker 1: equal. 12:42 Speaker 1: K? 12:43 Speaker 1: Now 12:45 Speaker 1: if you wanna lose weight, so tirzepatide. 12:47 Speaker 1: Right? If we want to just really not eat and 12:50 Speaker 1: and not eat and lose a lot of weight, essentially go on a crash diet that is sustainable because you're still taking it. Right. Tirzepatide 12:58 Speaker 1: is the way to go. 13:01 Speaker 1: If you are 1 who wants to or still working out and you need nutrients and you need to eat protein, right, and you ever if you want to build any muscle, 13:11 Speaker 1: go with Retatrutide because you need to eat some food. It will allow you to eat food. It just makes you just essentially forces you to eat healthy the right way. Yeah. Right? And the right way is small portions. 13:22 Speaker 0: Yeah. And and, you know, for those that don't know, Will and I own a peptide company called Warrior Makers, and we come across a lot of different people. And sometimes he will have a little bit slightly different approach than me, blah, blah, blah. But I 13:34 Speaker 0: would say from my standpoint and where you can chime in and give your opinion on this is how I've been working with people that I come across. 13:41 Speaker 0: If you're looking to lose a lot of weight quickly, 30 13:45 Speaker 0: pounds plus, I have put them on Tirzepatide 13:48 Speaker 0: 1st, because 13:50 Speaker 0: those people generally have a problem with food and their cravings are strong and the tirzepatide will 13:57 Speaker 0: curb those cravings 13:58 Speaker 0: harder. And I start them there, 14:01 Speaker 0: is, 14:02 Speaker 0: think, Will and I both will agree on this, our goal will always be to mold them into Retatrutide because it's a far superior product in both of our opinions. I think I talked for you on that. But Tirzepatide 14:12 Speaker 0: is gonna have a role. And my opinion is 30 pounds 14:16 Speaker 0: plus, you might start with Tirzepatide just at 1st, 14:19 Speaker 0: molding into the Tirzepatide because the Tirzepatide is a better product, 14:24 Speaker 0: and especially the people that work out. If you're definitely a gym rat, you definitely wanna do the Retatrutide. 14:29 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you have thoughts on that? 14:33 Speaker 1: Agreed. I think that's 14:35 Speaker 1: a good of a number as any to choose, 14:38 Speaker 1: but absolutely, I would agree. You know, when I was playing college football and I had to gain 30, 40 pounds, right, the goal was to 14:47 Speaker 1: stuff myself as much as possible, right, and my stomach would 14:52 Speaker 1: would stretch out. And then 2 weeks later, 3 weeks later, my capacity for for food intake would get more and more and more and more. Well, kind of what we're trying to do is the opposite here too. Right? Our stomachs will 15:06 Speaker 1: stretch out and they will shrink down. And so 15:09 Speaker 1: we want this to be long term 15:12 Speaker 1: health and actual health. Right? And so if we can start with your zepatide, you start eating less and less. Okay? But we're still eating food. Okay? I'm not I'm not telling anybody to starve here. But, hey, our our stomach is gonna start shrinking down. Right? And then you 15:28 Speaker 1: then we can switch to Retatrutide and also with the help of that of that, it's gonna keep your food intake minimal. 15:36 Speaker 1: But as you get off of this stuff completely, 15:39 Speaker 1: and right now, there is no real recommendation of, hey, you need to stop at this point. Right? Right. 15:46 Speaker 1: I've seen tons of doctors' prescriptions and 15:50 Speaker 1: they are basically putting everybody on a kind of a maintenance program. Now, the goal to get off is slowly wean down, right? 15:57 Speaker 1: But the point is we built really good habits, right, mental and physical great eating habits, 16:04 Speaker 1: and the stomach is at a correct size. 16:07 Speaker 1: And as we slowly wean down, that will naturally start to make you feel you'll start to feel full as long as you don't just binge and stretch that guy out. 16:16 Speaker 1: So there's kind of an exit plan, although doctors aren't really 16:20 Speaker 1: that concerned on on exit plans. 16:22 Speaker 1: The main thing is this stuff inherently isn't 16:26 Speaker 1: really bad for you. 16:28 Speaker 0: It's if you starve yourself and have no nutrients, that's what's bad for you. Yeah. So if we cut out semaglutide and then we take that out of the equation, I think on both tirzepatide and reticotrad, 16:37 Speaker 0: will 16:38 Speaker 0: even the tirzepatide, you're not going to stop eating like Semaglutide, 16:41 Speaker 0: that stuff sucked. But, know, again, you're going to have to kind of like, 16:46 Speaker 0: everybody's a little different, so you can try them both. You know, you can see which 1 can you connect with. I mean, that's 1 of the things that Will 16:53 Speaker 0: and I have done for years on all kinds of different supplements. We see what our bodies respond to. And when we find a sweet spot, we stick with the sweet spot. You know, for example, to take a hard left on testosterone replacement, 17:04 Speaker 0: I've been at 180 for a long time simply because that's my sweet spot. But like it took me trial and error to get to that sweet spot. You know what I mean? And that's what I would recommend for anybody with any type of peptide or anything. You're 17:15 Speaker 0: going be different. So you got to find that sweet spot for you. 17:20 Speaker 1: He, folks, he's not talking about 180 17:24 Speaker 1: per deciliter in his blood test. 17:26 Speaker 1: Right. 17:27 Speaker 1: That's a really low testosterone 17:29 Speaker 1: test. Right? He's talking about how much he's actually giving himself milligrams 17:34 Speaker 1: on weekly basis. Right. Right. 17:36 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 17:37 Speaker 1: And so as far as 17:39 Speaker 1: dosing, which I guess 17:41 Speaker 1: we are going to answer, but 17:44 Speaker 1: another way is 17:45 Speaker 1: is and we've we've we've discussed this and tried this on some people is introducing both at the same time, right? Yeah. So- Right. So starting Tirzepatide, 17:53 Speaker 1: okay, use that, then kind of add in some Retatrutide 17:58 Speaker 1: and 17:59 Speaker 1: convert the whole way around. 18:01 Speaker 0: Everybody's been different. That's been something we've been implementing with some people now for, it's been, I think, and they've been, they've, they like it, you know, and I think that's a really good approach, but everybody's gonna be a little different, man, you know? 18:15 Speaker 0: This one's a good 1 on this. This, generally speaking on the peptides, we're generally going to say, should take it and who should not? And you generally want to say, Everybody should take it. But let's dig into this 1 that exists. This answer might be a little bit different. 18:27 Speaker 0: So who should be taking this product? And let's talk about the tirzepatide. Who would you say should be taking tirzepatide? 18:35 Speaker 1: I would say that anybody who needs to lose a considerable amount 18:40 Speaker 1: of weight, 18:41 Speaker 1: Right? Usually, that's fat and, 18:45 Speaker 1: and so anyone who needs to take a cons lose lose a considerable amount of weight, 18:50 Speaker 1: and cannot 18:52 Speaker 1: control their food intake. 18:55 Speaker 1: You know? 18:57 Speaker 1: There are some people like that, like, you know, that that just have the problem, and they can work out all day long but just cannot 19:04 Speaker 1: not eat. So 19:06 Speaker 0: anybody who Tirzepatide, anybody who needs to lose a considerable amount of weight, 30 plus pounds, I think is a good number. And if somebody's listening to this, you know, we're not doctors, so, you know, go talk to your doctor and do all that stuff for sure. So you know that. But we have talked to a lot of people. We both tried them and we have dealt with a lot of people in regards to kind of helping them with this type of stuff. 19:27 Speaker 0: If you've been researching 19:28 Speaker 0: these, you know, and you need a lot of lose a lot of weight, it will help you. Like, that's I'm gonna just cut to the chase. It will help you and you will see immediate results. 19:37 Speaker 0: And you get that snowball spinning down the hill in a positive form and you pick up steam. And if you're someone that doesn't like going to the gym, well, when you start losing weight, you start getting a psychological 19:48 Speaker 0: effect of that and you probably will start working out and start exercising because you feel better and you start seeing results 19:56 Speaker 0: and then you're gonna wanna see more results and expediting. So it is a chain reaction. So if this is the fire, the spark that lights that fire of change, 20:05 Speaker 0: do it. Do it. Yes. 20:07 Speaker 0: You know what I mean? Do it. More. Absolutely. 20:09 Speaker 0: I mean, it's I 20:11 Speaker 0: believe, 20:12 Speaker 0: you know, especially even Retatrutide, it's think it's a scientific breakthrough, man. It is just a it's just such a good product. I mean, you have 20:20 Speaker 0: you have even bodybuilders taking it and guys that are gym rats, which again, that a lot of people don't even realize that. They think it's just a weight loss drug. Absolutely not. I've been taking it. I'm pretty good shape. 20:32 Speaker 0: You know, I do find it harder to bulk up, you know, but now I just eat past the point of being satiated. 20:37 Speaker 0: That's my goal. You know, everybody has to know their goal. But again, 20:42 Speaker 0: these are products 20:43 Speaker 0: that it's not just for weight loss, it's for across the spectrum. There's a place for it in most people's arsenal, so to speak. Don't you agree? 20:53 Speaker 1: Agreed. And we haven't really even 20:56 Speaker 1: we haven't really told the extra benefits of of Retatrutide because the point of this video isn't on that, but 21:02 Speaker 1: personally, I think 1 of the huge thing the last thing with retatrutide is it adds in 0.333 receptor, right, which is your GCG, 21:10 Speaker 1: your your glucagon 21:12 Speaker 1: receptor. 21:13 Speaker 1: That 21:15 Speaker 1: that helps that burns even more fat. Right? 21:18 Speaker 1: It's 21:20 Speaker 1: the thing that I like about it is there are times, man, I get busy and I forget to eat, you know, and I don't eat for 6 hours. 21:27 Speaker 1: And as I get older, I don't know what it is, but, man, my brain is super dependent on food. When I was young, I could not eat. I could go run around. It didn't matter. It didn't really affect my mood. But nowadays, 21:38 Speaker 1: dude, the 21:40 Speaker 1: lack of food, I can I can feel every little twist and turn? 21:45 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is when I have Retatrutide on it, it basically balances out my blood sugar in my brain for me. So It does. Right. Go 6 hours and don't eat, and normally, I'm hangry and frustrated and can't really think. Like, I don't get that. My brain stays 22:01 Speaker 1: clear, 22:02 Speaker 1: alert, 22:03 Speaker 1: which 22:04 Speaker 1: is, 22:05 Speaker 0: like, really which is crucial. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's I would say that some of the things it's probably not even talked about just because the objective for most is to lose weight or burn fat, but I 22:16 Speaker 0: feel like my brain fires on it. I feel like I am on top of it more than I have been in quite some time. I wasn't expecting that part of it, you know? So that's a good point to make, man. Agreed. Agreed. 22:30 Speaker 0: So, okay, so pretty much people overweight, I just tapped in and I just said, even gym rats and guys that are trying to lean out, so anybody 22:38 Speaker 0: from the spectrum, is there anybody that you can think of, and this is the fun question always, 22:44 Speaker 0: that should not be taking it? Any people if they have heart problems, any people that have, you know, people that are overweight, a lot of times have a lot of health issues. So this will be a good 1. So any anything you can think of of people that should not take it? Yes. Yes. If you if a person has any type of, 23:03 Speaker 1: any stomach 23:05 Speaker 1: issues and intestinal tract issues, like, 23:08 Speaker 1: for my my mother. My mother's this 1 per she just doesn't eat normally, and she just stays lean and mean, but, like, she's the last it will, like, free there has been studies of, like, frozen gut where food just stops. 23:22 Speaker 1: From these these these From these. From these. I've been with that. The GLP 1 part probably mostly mostly from the from semaglutide 23:29 Speaker 1: because people really aren't eating. And so I guess I mean, again, you don't exercise a muscle, and it can learn stop 23:36 Speaker 1: learning how to function. So if you don't put anything down those intestines for a while, they don't know how to push food down. So anybody who already 23:45 Speaker 1: hey, if you don't wanna lose any more weight, don't take it. There's that. 23:50 Speaker 1: My, you know, my mother's old my mother is old, and she has some issues on her 23:54 Speaker 1: intestinal processes 23:56 Speaker 1: working as fast as they should. And so I would not give it to would not give it to her. Anybody who is all nutrient deficient, 24:05 Speaker 1: like, make sure you get your nutrients in. 24:08 Speaker 1: Again, eat. 24:10 Speaker 1: And sometimes these can make that a bit harder, especially tirzepatide and semaglutide. 24:15 Speaker 1: Even, you know, take multivitamins, 24:18 Speaker 1: folks. 24:19 Speaker 1: You might not be getting all the nutrients. It's a very, very good idea to take nutrient, to take multivitamins. 24:24 Speaker 1: Drink plenty of water. 24:27 Speaker 1: Keep that. Keep your system, your intestines used to having things go down them. Yeah. 24:33 Speaker 0: I'll tell I'll tell you with the experience that I have. I can't say that everybody's experienced this, but let me just kind of give you mine. 24:40 Speaker 0: The 1st 24:42 Speaker 0: week, 24:43 Speaker 0: maybe 10 days was woah, and like I was not hungry at all, and I was not prepared for it, I was about ready to jump shit, but luckily I stayed on because that irons out fairly quickly, 24:53 Speaker 0: you 24:53 Speaker 0: you do, do. So I've had some of the people that, you know, I've talked to about it, so they have had that same experience. So just understand your 25:01 Speaker 0: body has to adjust and there is going to be an adjustment stage. 25:04 Speaker 0: Needs to kind of find it and that's all done at its own pace. We all find that stuff at its own pace. But that's why Will and I are gonna always, you know, I know I can speak for him on this, start slow, start low. 25:16 Speaker 0: You can always go up, you know, and let's talk about that. Let's go into the Doches because 25:20 Speaker 0: E. I. Lilly, who's a creator, like in regards to this, is going to say, 25:25 Speaker 0: and we disagree with this with a lot of experience with helping people, 25:30 Speaker 0: dose, 25:31 Speaker 0: 1 large dose a week. Let's talk about that on our opinion or your opinion and what we think has worked better for quite a few people or many people. Okay, sure. 25:44 Speaker 1: The name of the game, the name of the game with anything, 25:47 Speaker 1: right, is is moderation 25:49 Speaker 1: and keeping our body consistent 25:51 Speaker 1: with things. 25:54 Speaker 1: To sell to the masses of people, people don't like doing injections. Right? Less injections makes things easier for people. 26:02 Speaker 1: So 26:03 Speaker 1: it it benefits, 26:05 Speaker 1: if you're trying to sell this product, to say, hey. Just take this. All you gotta do is 1 time a week. Right? 26:11 Speaker 1: And, and it'll work. Well, the truth is that, 26:14 Speaker 1: you know, the day that you do it, I think the, you know, onset's really almost the next day is when it's gonna really hit you the most. But but the truth is it doesn't just stay perfectly level throughout your body. Right? It is going to dissipate a little bit until we do their next 1 next week and then go down. So the name of the game is level 26:33 Speaker 1: is is is hormonal 26:35 Speaker 1: balance, although this is not affecting your hormones. 26:39 Speaker 1: I But think and plus is this level. So the tirzepatide and especially retatatide are burning fat. Okay? So I have noticed that a lot of people will notice it it wearing off after 4 days or so. 26:53 Speaker 1: I would say, hey. You do the inject twice a week to 3 times a week. 26:58 Speaker 1: Heck, inject every day would probably be the best, folks. It probably that would probably make everything work the best. But if we want the fat burning properties to work, what's the point of having it work for 4 days and then not for 3 if we can do it 3 days a week and get fat burning 7 days a week? Well, I think you tapped on it. I think that's the main point of what you just said is that they 27:18 Speaker 0: knew that, you know, to get people to inject anything would be difficult and they want to sell their products. So let's just think logically for a 2nd. 27:28 Speaker 0: Their attack was probably 27:30 Speaker 0: just what you said. 1 injection is better than 3, which they didn't 27:36 Speaker 0: probably study that because the people we talked to, they want to do more injections because it works. So it's like they want to, so trust me. You know what I mean? Because they're doing something that works like, let's do more human nature. 27:48 Speaker 0: You know what mean? Yeah. So yeah, that's good. So we recommend generally for most people that, you know, it's a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I think you can microdose it even down like Will said to the day, but again, trial and error, you're a silent project, you see what works for you and you're only gonna know if you try things. And obviously, you know, hey, it'll cut down on the 28:07 Speaker 1: if you have nausea, 28:08 Speaker 1: you know, it's logical that if you give yourself a whole bunch of something that gives you nausea, it's probably gonna make you more nauseous versus 28:15 Speaker 1: Gotta seem like simple math. Is gonna make you less nausea per dose. 28:19 Speaker 1: You know, 1 thing that we didn't that you you said who should not take this? So retatrutide 28:24 Speaker 1: is 28:26 Speaker 1: of these 3 that we were talking about, 28:29 Speaker 1: semaglutide 28:30 Speaker 1: and tirzepatide 28:31 Speaker 1: are both FDA approved. Okay? Retatrutide 28:34 Speaker 1: is not FDA approved. 28:36 Speaker 1: Yet, hopefully, 28:38 Speaker 1: the good people at Eli Lilly are and good for them. Good job, guys. I mean, we don't wanna I don't wanna we're not here to bag on them. They've made this product and spent a ton of money on 28:48 Speaker 1: making it great and helping millions 28:51 Speaker 1: of people. 28:52 Speaker 1: They 28:53 Speaker 1: so but there is the potential of Retatrutide to increase your heart rate a little bit and those who have any preexisting heart conditions, I won't say any, but doctors know better than me, so please look into this. If you have any kind of heart heart issue, 29:07 Speaker 1: but it has a potential to kind of raise your heart rate a little bit. That can be mitigated by when you do increase your dose to just don't 29:15 Speaker 1: don't take huge bumps up. Right? So the goal is to slow slowly increase your dose 29:20 Speaker 1: and 29:22 Speaker 1: you can mitigate those potential problems. I personally have probably, 29:27 Speaker 1: you know, dealt with known 29:29 Speaker 1: thousand, 1000 people at least who have taken this and I haven't had a single person tell me there's been a problem 29:35 Speaker 1: with that, but- 29:38 Speaker 1: think two- think 29:42 Speaker 0: offset some of that risk, 29:45 Speaker 0: think of it like this. If you have heart issues, generally speaking, you're probably greatly overweight or probably. 29:53 Speaker 0: But you're going to bring down inflammation 29:55 Speaker 0: and inflammation and bring down weight. That's going to 29:58 Speaker 0: bring that and start to kind of rectify some of that stuff, in my opinion. You know what I mean? I mean, 30:04 Speaker 1: yeah, it's so true. Like everything is going to work. It's a domino effect, guys, on everything. Men, 30:10 Speaker 1: men, hey, if you have more fat, right, you have higher estrogen and lower testosterone. If you can get rid of that fat, guess what? Your testosterone starts climbing up, your estrogen, you know, and the less estrogen you have, the better your body will actually more testosterone you have, now your body will burn fat even better, right? So this is just it's a domino effect 30:29 Speaker 1: both ways, man. Either way you go. It's 30:32 Speaker 1: gonna get better and better, worse and worse and worse. 30:35 Speaker 0: Let's tap into and kind of wrap this up because we're about 30 minutes. Let's tap in really quickly on what your opinion is. And this is an easy question because there's so many, but what peptides would you stack? And we're talking about Tirzepatide here. What peptides would you recommend on a stack? 30:53 Speaker 1: What peptides? 30:55 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness. Mean, obviously, easiest question is, what's your objectives? Like, what are you gonna do? I mean, what what's the objective? My guess is the objective is to cut weight, is to burn fat. 31:05 Speaker 1: So let's talk about cutter SLU-PP-three 31:09 Speaker 1: 32. 31:10 Speaker 1: That 31:12 Speaker 1: is awesome. That basically is an exercise mimetic. 31:15 Speaker 1: It tells your body that it is that it's exercising and all the other good processes, the nutrient partitioning that come with that. 31:21 Speaker 1: That's awesome. AOD, 31:23 Speaker 1: AOD would be great. AOD would be good. It's a fragment of the HGH chain, right? It's the tail end of the HGH chain that burns fat and only burns fat. 31:33 Speaker 0: Taking at night, right? Would you recommend at night? 31:35 Speaker 1: For bed? Yes, I take 31:37 Speaker 1: it at night. I think with sleep, I would take it 3 times a day, right? Again, hey, if your body, if you can trick your body to think it's exercising, might as well do it all day long, right? Yeah, absolutely. 31:46 Speaker 0: 5000000 31:47 Speaker 1: O-1MQ. That helps. 31:50 Speaker 1: Help will break down your fat, right? Make it easier to be actually be burnt off. Yeah. MOTS-1C would be a good 1. MOTS-17.5 again, it gives you more energy in your mitochondria or to help burn fat. Not peptides, I think that just everybody is better with their hormones optimized. 32:07 Speaker 1: Right? That means men have some healthy testosterone. How whatever means you do that by, 32:14 Speaker 1: you go to your doctor, 32:16 Speaker 1: you know, more power to you. Just, 32:19 Speaker 1: figure that out. I 32:21 Speaker 0: want to sit on that for a 2nd because I think that we haven't even tapped on that as much as we need to really like shine a light on what you just said. 32:28 Speaker 0: I mean, people out there, guys, in general, 32:32 Speaker 0: hormone levels, 32:34 Speaker 0: if you don't have your hormones optimized in regards to your testosterone and your estrogen and all the free testosterone and all those things checked, 32:42 Speaker 0: you're not going to get the true benefits of peptides. 32:46 Speaker 0: That's a huge part of like your health is having your 32:51 Speaker 0: hormones in line. You know what I mean? And if you're 1 of those guys that are just so against testosterone 32:56 Speaker 0: and placement, I mean, I don't understand it by any means. It's hard for me to catch up to those guys, but go to the doctor, get your blood work, get your testosterone checked, your free testosterone checked, your estrogen checked, 33:07 Speaker 0: and start there. 33:09 Speaker 0: And that'll tell you if you should get on testosterone. I'm not telling you you should or you shouldn't. I'm not a doctor. I'm just telling you, you should know. At least you can make an educated decision. Yep. 33:19 Speaker 0: And if you get your hormones in line and start throwing in some of these peptides that Will and I have been talking about weekly, 33:25 Speaker 0: you literally will start to feel like a different human because again, these are just chains of amino acids, man. These are not steroids 33:32 Speaker 0: in any way. These are peptides 33:34 Speaker 0: are amazing for you. And that's why we say stacked because when you stack different 33:40 Speaker 0: peptides on top of each other, when you're hormonally optimized, 33:44 Speaker 0: you're going to feel them like a different person. 33:47 Speaker 1: It's just the truth. Yep. It's amazing. It's amazing. And everybody out to, yes, we got do a little experiments on ourselves. So some 33:54 Speaker 1: things were great for somebody and not as great. 33:59 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you got to lose? Just yourself and your happiness, I guess, and 34:04 Speaker 1: your money. Just think it costs money, but 34:06 Speaker 0: Well, you know, like it's kind of funny if you break down things mathematically 34:10 Speaker 0: because the people that are against this type of stuff and actually paying for peptides and things like that, well, doctor's visits are expensive. 34:18 Speaker 0: Taking a lot of antibiotics and all the stuff the doctors seem to prescribe you, those yield different chain reactions down the road, and you're going to be paying rather now or then, in my opinion. So I would say, 34:30 Speaker 0: try 1, try 2, then you're going to start to open the door and you're going to feel like a different person. You know, if you start with a GLP-one, 34:38 Speaker 0: whether it's Tirzepatide or Retatrutide, 34:40 Speaker 0: you will see these work very quickly 34:42 Speaker 0: and you will be blown away and you will start saying, It's a scientific breakthrough, Like we say, you really will notice it quickly. Either 1, both of them will work well. And it's okay, folks. Like, I told again, we'll wrap this up, but JD was against that. But I said, I understand because you are all about 34:59 Speaker 1: discipline and just and and and I my willpower can do it. But guess what, dude? Like, not everybody I took not everybody is like you. Right? We all have a cross to bear, 35:08 Speaker 1: and 35:09 Speaker 1: some people's brains don't work 35:12 Speaker 1: as strict as yours, and folks, it's okay to have help for sure. 35:17 Speaker 1: Give yourself some help and give it a try. 35:19 Speaker 0: Well, like he just said though, like, 35:22 Speaker 0: I- I 35:23 Speaker 0: am very disciplined and now I'm even taking the Retatrutide 35:26 Speaker 0: because it's freaking amazing. 35:28 Speaker 0: It is amazing. I love it. I mean, I could go on on about it. So I 35:33 Speaker 0: hope that this conversation 35:35 Speaker 0: for the people that have been thinking about it, just try it. You are not gonna know until you just try it. You know what? If you don't like it, you can stop. 35:43 Speaker 1: Simple math. And it's okay. 35:45 Speaker 1: Nothing bad Try 35:47 Speaker 0: it, man. It's a peptide. Ain't gonna hurt you. So well, right on, man. I like this 1. I like this 1. So that was a good 1. Will, 35:54 Speaker 0: I'm gonna be heading in the office soon. So I will see you soon and everybody else, we will catch you next week.