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1:09Speaker 2Welcome back to the Pepatide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Like always across the way, my good buddy, my business partner, my friend, Mr. William T Hawk.
1:18Speaker 2What's up. Good to be here in the corner. The corner. Yeah. Across the way in the corner because we have a special guest on the show. He and I just got done doing my personal podcast and our perspective. Was great. I enjoyed it. We didn't talk too much about peptides a little bit, but some might be a little bit redundant, but sometimes
1:36Speaker 2redundancies do. I call him the godfather of peptides because to say that he was ahead of the curve now, especially after talking to him is an understatement. 12 years ago or so is when you got into peptides.
1:49Speaker 2So Mr. Trevor Kruder,
1:52Speaker 2welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you. Welcome to the show, my brother. Looking forward to this. Yeah, good conversation, man. We, 1st off, man, how's life? You are we able to say why you're moving?
2:03Speaker 1We're keeping on the on the Well, when does this air?
2:06Speaker 2It will air Monday.
2:07Speaker 1Then,
2:08Speaker 1we gotta leave that 1 on the Okay. So we're gonna say congratulations because he's a good dude. Although parents are learning this weekend. Okay. People can figure that out. There you go. And then we have this dude right here. We're flying out to Prague. We're actually gonna go to Genaszc and meet Peter Magic and say what's up. He's a cool dude. No way. Prague's 1 of my favorite cities. He's on Earth, so you gotta go see what they do. Yeah. You gotta go 1 of the best cities on the planet. And then I'm gonna stay yeah. So we're gonna stay in a few days and I'm bringing my girl and then we are gonna make a vacation out of it and go to Italy. We're gonna go to Italy. The Amalfi Coast in Lake Co.
2:38Speaker 3Pretty. I've never been to any of those. I've never been to Prague. I've never been to any. You just literally, you're
2:44Speaker 1knocking out all the top ones. The rest of Europe's gonna be like, no, there's so much to see here, but the Amalfi Coast, you
2:50Speaker 1guys love each other. Yeah.
2:52Speaker 3You like to see each other? It's hitting the knee. So- I'm hitting the knee too. I have a ring to congratulate-
2:58Speaker 3And it wasn't really playing this way. Like I had the ring and then we had this- This is very funny. I'm like, let's just go and do it right there. When are you leaving for this? It's on July 21. Isn't she gonna hear this right? She already knows. Oh, it is not. She's I'm like, well, you're now is what's on. You're like, yeah. Money I want all this. May have spilled the beans on a podcast. Not listen to that. Don't listen to that 1. That 1 vodka is bad. Oh, that guy's an idiot. I was telling, though, bro, that, like, my
3:22Speaker 2my now wife knew that I was gonna propose and it still was nerve racking, dude. I was like, I was walking on the beach, nobody was there, and like, I was like,
3:31Speaker 3shaking. My nose is gonna do it at some point too. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I don't wanna do this complete surprise if the girl has to be like, what the hell didn't expect this? Like, that's
3:40Speaker 3Well Now it's kind of putting her in a great position. I think it's funny though. Like,
3:45Speaker 1you know when the time is right, but a lot of guys don't because they have no social skills. Right. And they go to ask, there's like, who the you know, each other 3 weeks. What? Oh man. Yeah. I've I know people that have done that a month in. Yeah.
3:58Speaker 1Don't get me wrong. Well, I'm a lover. Like, yeah. I love to love,
4:02Speaker 1but woo. Yeah. That's yes. Shit. My mic's. Congratulations.
4:06Speaker 3That's amazing. Thank you, dude. And we're sightings and so many, yeah, we're going to stay 2 nights in Sorrento and then the rest in Positano.
4:13Speaker 1Yep.
4:14Speaker 3Where's more action?
4:16Speaker 1Probably do and I'm gonna get the proposal done with. Yep. Know, wear
4:21Speaker 1the ring.
4:22Speaker 2She's your fiance now. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. It's good shit. Yeah. Because Will, Will, I've met Will from AA, we've known each other 7 or 8 years, give or take. And like you, he just, we would always talk about supplements and just in that life, Hey dude, have you ever tried this? Like, what about this? So this is like just us talking. But he was a- A lot of muscle mass.
4:44Speaker 2But we, Will was a never was a committer. He was a theater for 2 months and a jump ship type deal, and so this is a big- clock's ticking. 3 more days. So I guess, like, oh. Yeah.
4:57Speaker 3Was almost like that.
5:00Speaker 3Mark. And then it was like, okay. That was new, and I can't do it no more. Yeah. We've we've been there, done that. But you know, yes. I mean But that's good, though. You you not that you were picky, but you knew that it wasn't going to go anywhere further. Absolutely.
5:15Speaker 1So I was told that I couldn't have children when I was 26 and
5:19Speaker 1they're like, yep, you're never gonna have kids. Just move on. And
5:23Speaker 1so
5:24Speaker 1I would always tell women that upfront because
5:28Speaker 1I don't want to lead them on. Yeah, big deal. So all those relationships would usually last about
5:32Speaker 13 weeks to 2 months and then they're like, they had their fun. They're like, well, I want a kid. So this has been great. I'm out. So
5:39Speaker 1I've had that happen to me too. But we all, you know, the good news is we're always friends because it's just like, hey, we I was kind of aggressive. Yeah,
5:45Speaker 1yeah, yeah. You know, I wasn't looking for I was building a business for the last
5:49Speaker 16, 7, 8 years. You don't have a whole lot of time to commit to No, you don't. Personally, I don't.
5:55Speaker 3It's been tough. Luckily, I've known her for 10 years, so I- That helps. That helps. So we actually kind of broke up and I was just busy. We've, I don't know, it's been a roller coaster, but that's not what we're here to talk about. Not a bad roller coaster.
6:08Speaker 1Slow. You start jamming her with oxytocin.
6:11Speaker 2She can't write that. 1 41 will fix that right away. P 22 28. God.
6:15Speaker 3She loves me now. Do you like that? Do like P 22 28?
6:18Speaker 1Yes. So if it obviously, it's not gonna be it's not a whirlwind, like, of a sudden, your, like, hearts are popping out of your head. Right. But, I do believe if you're,
6:28Speaker 1in that phase of I need to try and make a baby.
6:31Speaker 1Uh-huh. I have like the,
6:34Speaker 1has worked 1000000 times for everybody I know, which is you run HCG, right? You gotta get your your testes back. How much would you say, like, 1000 IUs, 3 times a week? It doesn't where everybody's at. Like, if you've been on testosterone forever, maybe it's more. But I mean, I was running,
6:50Speaker 1yeah, 500 IUs sometimes, 300 IUs sometimes. But, yeah, if you're, you know, 1000 kind of leading up and then Kisspeptin twice a day. K. And then mix in oxytocin and PE 22 28 in the evening session. Wow. That's different than what we've Because the reason why is it the pressure is because I went through it. The pressure
7:10Speaker 1is so shitty that you're like,
7:12Speaker 1you gotta perform. Get
7:14Speaker 1in me. Yeah. Let's go.
7:16Speaker 1Disseminate. This is sexy. It's not sexy. Right? So it just kind of helps,
7:21Speaker 1like I'm feeling good. The love's there. And then if
7:25Speaker 1you really want to get deep estrogen,
7:27Speaker 1if you're a guy, put a little estrogen in your testosterone, if you're still running it with it, just,
7:33Speaker 1you will,
7:34Speaker 2you'll definitely be a puddle of mud. How do you feel
7:39Speaker 2in regards to peptides, the hormone optimization, how important is that? Do you think that it's,
7:46Speaker 2you need to be hormonally optimized before you think the peptides are going to do well? Well, I mean, that's, well,
7:51Speaker 1if you're trying to build muscle mass with peptides, yes.
7:56Speaker 1But if you're trying to fix your knee, no. Right? If you're trying to fix your brain, no. But if you do not fix the hormones 1st,
8:03Speaker 1the foundation's gone. Yeah, you're depressed, you feel shit. Well, you can take everything you want, but testosterone is what's weaving that muscle tissue together. It's like saying, Do I have to eat when I'm trying to build muscle? There's
8:15Speaker 1a lot of things that go on. You can take peptides. If you run growth hormone, you're just gonna get skinny. No. You're just gonna be a twig. If you're trying to actually bodybuild or put on muscle mass compete for whatever, the CrossFit games or what's that new thing that everybody does?
8:29Speaker 1They travel around. I bet he does it. It's like the CrossFit thing. They they they they don't wear the whoop bands. Really? Don't know. That goes on those They push the sled. They do some wall balls.
8:40Speaker 1It's everywhere. Never done crossfit. Never done that stuff. I gotta look at it. Bro, blow his shoulder out. Yeah, man. I see, like, jumping up and like, dude, I'm cold, bro. Yeah. I don't like weights. I'm like Is it That's cool. I'll There's some heavy shit. I'll watch football game. Yeah.
8:52Speaker 1But,
8:54Speaker 1you gotta start with testosterone
8:55Speaker 1is the beat. You gotta eat. And if you want to throw peptides in to balance that out, you can because
9:02Speaker 1the most peptides don't give you large amounts of muscle mass, see, then you add, they give it a fat. They allow for recovery, which is gonna keep you longer in I
9:11Speaker 1mean, do a little IGF-one with some carbs before a workout. You don't wear out. You can go 2, 2.5 hours. Shit. Yeah. You're just
9:20Speaker 1like, why am I not that tired? You know, it's just crazy. I am. Yeah.
9:25Speaker 1It really feels that way sometimes. And then when I'm not doing it and I'm going to the gym, I'm like, Jesus, man, I'm an hour and 20 minutes in, I gotta go.
9:33Speaker 2It's totally different when I run IGF and those those higher dose products. They definitely work. Yeah. So we it's funny how, this podcast started, so it was just kind of a fluke. I think all the things that are supposed to happen just kind of fall into place. Like, if you if you marry the right girl, it's just easy. Easy. You know what I mean?
9:48Speaker 2So Will and I, cool story. We flew up to,
9:51Speaker 2we flew to Vegas to go to Wellness Center to see if we were going to tap into,
9:56Speaker 2wholesale. Right? So we flew up there and we were like going to this conference and stuff
10:00Speaker 2And, we ended up like realizing that it was, we should do that. But anyways, I was like, listen, dude, let's just sit down and let's talk for 10 minutes on BPC. So we did it in the hotel. We did it in the wind. And we just, my phone was there, like the lighting sucked, you know? And we
10:17Speaker 2just filmed it and we'd like, we put it out and then we did, I think, sloop on the beach. Yeah. HB and we're gonna move it around the beach and we were trying to sell product. That was like the objective at the time. And then people couldn't hear it because there was windy and all this stuff. Then we went in both our offices and it's crazy how it just organically.
10:36Speaker 2And now you have a studio. And now we actually have a real studio. It's beautiful. Growing and growing. We're like, dude, just keep doing this stuff. It's fun. Because we get to sit down and talk to people like you, man. Like people that like have literally carved the way. So let's, I know we just talked about this, but it needs to be redundant for the people on this podcast, which is
10:52Speaker 3how the hell did you see all this coming? What do you throw for everybody else within, like, what are all the things that you do now in life? And with peptides, I know it's a lot, but I just kind of give the people a, a,
11:05Speaker 1a summary Of what I've Of everything. Yeah. Tell you, Pepatide's are in the business. In the business. Oh. Got it. Like, just all what are all the different things you have going on? Yeah. So They're businesses. We're at 44 companies that were possibly going through a merger with a couple of my other partners because we own a couple bit a bunch of businesses together and then there's satellite businesses outside of it. But right now we're currently so we have 3 telehealth companies.
11:28Speaker 1We have 3 5 0 3 a pharmacies.
11:30Speaker 1Mhmm. I have a 50 state hormone license. We do all Walgreens, CVS. It's probably 1 of those. We do all rare disease
11:37Speaker 1The United States. So if you get your child's born with maple syrup urine disease Mhmm. And it's gonna die because you can't absorb amino acids. You can't even breastfeed. Wow. It needs to be identified within the 1st, like, 3 to 4 days. We make those medications. Right? We work with every major university and you talk about Harvard, MIT, Stanford, USC, UCLA, all of them. So we do that. I do a ton of actual research. So we have roughly this year, we'll do 12 to 14 IRBs,
12:03Speaker 1INDs, drug ANDAs. So we're creating.
12:07Speaker 1Do,
12:08Speaker 1we actually build platforms for people. So we have a whole patient portal where we make like doctor networks for doctor patient portals.
12:15Speaker 1You do manufacturing. I do 2 research manufacturing sites. I have 4 drug manufacturing sites.
12:21Speaker 1I have 2 503Bs
12:23Speaker 1and 2 more being built right now. Building another 503A
12:28Speaker 1in Texas.
12:29Speaker 1Let's see here. We do cosmetics.
12:33Speaker 1We do, we're getting into supplements. We're doing dental.
12:38Speaker 1I got really big into hair. We have a IRB out for a product that actually regrows hair from necrosis follicles.
12:45Speaker 1Even if you're bald, it will start growing hair back. Holy shit. Now, doesn't mean you're gonna get, you know, an afro up top, but it is growing hair, which is a start. So we have a IRB and IND going for that.
12:58Speaker 1Jesus Christ, I probably missed about a dozen things. And then education platforms,
13:03Speaker 1we, I just built, started building my 1st brick and mortar. I've always been just not in brick and mortar. So we're opening up a,
13:11Speaker 1you know, it's got like 3 rooms. We're gonna do IV,
13:15Speaker 1phlebotomy,
13:16Speaker 1hyper bear chamber, red light beds, full gym, all the best equipment and layman's
13:21Speaker 1Panada,
13:22Speaker 1you know, arsenal, all the handpicked all the equipment.
13:26Speaker 1And we're going to do all laser treatments, all that there. Anything regenerative and you know, it's like 1 thing is you pay a membership. Like how much do you, if you pay retail, how much do you think you spend a month on your hotels?
13:37Speaker 1I
13:39Speaker 1don't, I do a lot less than people, but maybe 1000 dollars. Okay. So the membership is 1000 bucks. All your peptides are included for free and your hormones
13:49Speaker 1and the gym.
13:51Speaker 1And like you get a, you get 1 ID and then this is the best part, everything that's kind of not on that. And it goes up the higher, but we have exosome stem cell, all that. Yeah. But you get what we do is we baseline our price against what the norm is and then you start at like a 25% discount, 50% discount, 75% discount based on what membership you have. So it's
14:11Speaker 1just gonna be because I manufacture. That's awesome. My costs are so low compared to people that bought build a store don't usually make No. Everything. Yeah. We're building a satellite office in China. That deal got done. So we have a full inspection crew that goes out to the facilities that are,
14:30Speaker 1you know, that we're sourcing materials from and they inspect the facilities,
14:34Speaker 1negotiate,
14:35Speaker 1double check, talk about new products that we need to have made. So that's starting. It's a bunch of stuff. Jeez. Gosh, I got a lot of questions on that. I mean, yeah, I think you ripped. Where do I start? Yeah. 1st off, how do you do that? How do you juggle all that?
14:48Speaker 3Well, how long did this take? Just maybe can you just start then answer that 1?
14:52Speaker 3How long ago did you start this? How long did it take to So build all in 5 years, you have went from 0 to all of that? Well, was 12. Like, you got I
15:02Speaker 1said 12 years ago. I was making peptides. We were synthesizing
15:06Speaker 1peptide. There was no systems API. We were making everything from scratch, base aminos, and I'm still, you know, still friends with the guys, work with them. We're actually I got a brand new drug license out here.
15:17Speaker 1We just got approved. So we have a full drug manufacturer license and we got approved for ISO 5, which is general injectable.
15:23Speaker 1So we're gonna be building a 40,000 square foot facility here in Irvine. Okay. Here's another 1. So,
15:29Speaker 1but yeah, we're gonna basically take where they started, which is about 12,000 square feet and we're gonna make it 4 times bigger
15:37Speaker 1with that, those, that group.
15:39Speaker 1But yeah, so we started there and then I it's just 7 years was just hobby because no 1 knew to freaking Yeah, no
15:46Speaker 1wanted anything. I wasn't making any money.
15:48Speaker 1And then I started making a little money. You know what really helped? Kim Kardashian saying she lost 30 pounds on Ozempic. Don't know, dude. Really? Everyone's like, what's Ozempic? I'm like, I make that. That's Google.
15:59Speaker 1Like, I know how to make that the base molecule. Right? So how do you market that, though? If there's, like, not a market for it, is it all word-of-mouth at that time? And is there any marketing or I was still running multiple companies at that time. So I'd be in Arizona and I'd just be talking to people and they'd known me over the years like, Jesus, you got in really good shape. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, peptides.
16:20Speaker 1What's a peptide? And some people will be like, oh, whatever.
16:23Speaker 1Know? But it sounds like, about that? I'd be in these people's cars sometimes for like an hour driving somewhere. I would just start rapping. People would be like, when they can't escape and
16:32Speaker 1they might want to fight you for the 1st 2 minutes and then all of a sudden they're going, wait, holy fuck. Are you actually serious about this? This is what this stuff does.
16:41Speaker 1You know, it doesn't mean they jump on, but I would say
16:44Speaker 1me calling doctors, I get 1 for 30 would say yes in the beginning.
16:48Speaker 1Individuals,
16:49Speaker 1it was 1 out of 3. Yeah. Because
16:52Speaker 1when you go, yes, you know, how much you spend on Starbucks a month?
16:56Speaker 1Like, I don't know, like $200 ago. Give me a $100. I'll change your life right now. Right. Right.
17:01Speaker 1And that's what it was. And I tell people all the time, I go, obesity
17:05Speaker 1should be extinct.
17:06Speaker 1The amount of money you spend on your shitty food that you put in your body is more expensive than a GLP. For sure. So
17:15Speaker 1you just trade 1 for the other and why don't you be skinny? You
17:19Speaker 1know, obviously you gotta do a lot of other things correctly,
17:23Speaker 2but that's the reality. Right. I think that's where it's headed. I think pretty much, I think I read something the other day that I think in, remember how many years, 5 years, 80 percent will be on GLP-1s.
17:32Speaker 1Yeah. I mean, even if you're not using it to lose weight Yeah. Right. There's so many other benefits at low,
17:38Speaker 1low dose. For sure. Off the charts. Yeah. Mean, everybody can take it just depending on how much shit you take. I don't need to lose weight. You know, you don't need to sit down weight.
17:45Speaker 1What else am I gonna lose? Like, I'm trying to put weight on most of the time. I'm trying to eat 8,000 calories. I
17:53Speaker 1do meal 0.5
17:54Speaker 1mg a week. I split that into 2. It's just for glucose control. I do eat a lot of Absolutely.
18:01Speaker 1I'm sweet. I love everything.
18:04Speaker 3Me
18:06Speaker 3too. It's funny, you know, a while ago when I was like training people years and years ago, I would
18:10Speaker 3to try to entice them to say, Hey, this training is nothing. Like, right? If you could, if I could snap my fingers, right. And, and you could spend $10 or however much this costs, and you'd be in shape right now for $10, would you buy it? Right. And everybody would say,
18:24Speaker 1I would. And the funny thing is like nowadays, that's real. It's almost like that. Is almost like that. Literally. Retatr, like I mean, the body sculpting and all this stuff that people do, I mean, it's it's crazy. And and, you know, I know that growth hormone is not technically, like, really too legal still on the DEA schedule.
18:41Speaker 1But you know, if that 1 can kind of get 1 loosened up a little bit, it's so fucking beneficial for Hell yeah, dude. It's a little bit of an addiction where you don't, once you go on, you really don't ever want to go. Yeah. But
18:54Speaker 1we say you don't really notice it as much as you come off. That's the promise. You stop.
18:59Speaker 1What the hell? My metabolism boom went away. Yeah.
19:02Speaker 2It's crazy. I love it. JD, what was your question? I cut you off on. Well, no, mean, started 12 years ago, but to do that many businesses, was like, holy shit. Like, and you say we, who's we? Is there is there a lot of Okay.
19:14Speaker 1So I mean, so I'd, I would say I had no more than 10 employee true employees
19:19Speaker 1for the 1st,
19:21Speaker 1I don't know, 3 years. I had my board of directors, and then what I did was I built an entire 10 99 network of over 1000 sales reps. Sure. Okay. Yeah. That was 10 99. Now,
19:31Speaker 1now we've kind of reverted now to in house. So now we employ probably 500, 600 people across,
19:37Speaker 1you know, with, you know, 3, 2, 3 PLs. Right? There's a few 100 people there or 200 people there, you know, a 503B.
19:44Speaker 1Yeah. You know, a lot of it's automated, but you still have 80,
19:47Speaker 1you have so many goddamn compliance people. Yeah.
19:50Speaker 1Yeah. Like integrity, we have, we care at integrity or 503A.
19:54Speaker 1You
19:55Speaker 1know, most pharmacies, like if you go to these chop pharmacies, they've been grinding out all these GLPs for the last couple of years.
20:01Speaker 1Walk in and they have
20:03Speaker 13 pharmacists just slapping
20:05Speaker 1labels on bottles and throwing the
20:08Speaker 1container
20:09Speaker 1in the basket to move down the line. There's no 1 to talk to. There's no like room with pharmacists.
20:16Speaker 1In Integrity, have probably 30 pharmacists just picking up the phone and calling, not waiting for calls. Every prescription that comes in, we can call and go, hi, I'm with Integrity. You're getting a prescription from us. Do you have any questions about it? Wow. And if you need something, once you get it, call us back.
20:32Speaker 1Wow. Do you? Because we care. Yeah. Right? That's, you know, that's a white glove service. Yeah. Yeah. We're a little bit more expensive. $20.
20:39Speaker 1You know?
20:40Speaker 1But, I mean, for that peace of mind that you can just pick up the phone, call back and be like, oh my god, I got it. I have no idea what I'm doing. They'll
20:46Speaker 1talk to you for an hour. Yeah. Care. People need it. Good for you. So, you know, just
20:52Speaker 3these yeah, we probably have a good 600, 700, 800 people now working for us. Did you did from early on, did you have like a trusted, I don't know.
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21:45Speaker 3Real smart person by your side, and do you still have a couple real smart people that that are better at maybe your weaknesses that Well, that's all you you with? I'm not. Because you can't do I mean No. So early on,
21:58Speaker 1it's a mixture of loyalty and smart. Yeah. So when I 1st started, because I had no money, I started the company with $30,000.
22:05Speaker 3Yeah.
22:07Speaker 1That doesn't go very far. So how are gonna get your legal work done, your your websites done, all that stuff? So instead,
22:14Speaker 1met really good people. My attorney was, I was trading him peptides for legal work.
22:19Speaker 1Dean, my CFO, he was running his own company. I fractionalized him. He was my 1st roommate or 20 plus years ago.
22:26Speaker 1I was paying him $5. He was helping me out.
22:30Speaker 1Kristen was like my sister. She would, she was a stay at home mom. I was paying her $15 an hour to come over and help me with orders,
22:37Speaker 1you know, in the beginning,
22:39Speaker 1remote and Ash are the marketing and technology wing that started with me. I gave them 3% of the company and then they gave me a loan for like a $100 of technology build. And I'm like, you know, I promise I'll bill you back. I'll pay you back. And they're like, oh, we know you are. We
22:54Speaker 3see the
22:55Speaker 1what's going on. You're gonna be fine. Let's do it because we're sitting on gold here. You're on gold. And I gave everybody a little bit in the beginning. So I gave away about 25%
23:03Speaker 1of the company, which most people say is really dumb to do because what it was worth then and what it's worth now, mean, it was probably 1000000000 or $2 for the business if you could sell it. But
23:13Speaker 1that doesn't matter. Wouldn't have gotten to without the people. So
23:16Speaker 1we wouldn't have worth anything.
23:18Speaker 1Right? And then, you know, there's a few other people, you know?
23:22Speaker 1Who else is on there? Oh, Drew. I mean, so my buddy, he owns social You know the restaurant? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he was the owner of Social, and he was a, you know, he was a customer of mine, and then he's a and he's always been a friend.
23:33Speaker 1Charming. Has the, like, charismatic or something. He's very charismatic. He's he's very creative.
23:39Speaker 1Like, he's, he was my 1st employee. He was, he'd sold the business,
23:44Speaker 1you know, was trying to figure out what to do with his life. You know, he took in the kids on, like, a 3 month vacation kind of around the world, went to Egypt, went to Europe, did all those things. They homeschooled.
23:53Speaker 1So they were able to do the whole thing and he got back. He's like, I don't know what the fuck to do with my life. I don't wanna go back in the restaurant business. He actually went back and forth
24:00Speaker 1and he just sat at my counter for months
24:03Speaker 1listening to me all day,
24:06Speaker 1bottling bottles, just listening. Hungry. And then he just jumped on and that guy freaking, he went out there and he found business still does. I mean, he writes millions upon millions of dollars Right? For me a
24:17Speaker 1So, you know, he he's there. And then from there, just, I, it was like my 1st guy that I was partnered with in the laboratory.
24:25Speaker 1He was making stuff that I wasn't making. I was making stuff that he wasn't making. Right? You can only have so much time. You know, you started with 100 bottle,
24:33Speaker 1you know, synthesizers.
24:34Speaker 1And like, know, you can only make so much. Yeah. So I was like, we were meeting like parking lots. I was trading him NAD and AOD-
24:41Speaker 1That is so funny, bro. For like months. How much you have CVS, bro?
24:45Speaker 1Really, like bags,
24:47Speaker 1you know, giant bags of stuff in the old days, you know, before, you know, anybody wasn't there wasn't an industry None. At this point. Nobody knew what it was. Yeah, I mean, at
24:57Speaker 11 point, I would say we're probably was peptide sciences,
25:01Speaker 1the 2 of us, Swiss chems
25:03Speaker 1and the other, was probably 98%
25:06Speaker 1of the business in America. Peptide science was about 50% of that or more. And
25:12Speaker 1then we were probably about
25:15Speaker 120% of the rest of it, and then Swiss chem is just big. They were probably 10. And then I got into medical.
25:21Speaker 1So immediately, because I was all American made, no Chinese, I'm just going I'm I have a focus. I'm going that way. I'm gonna go after doctors.
25:28Speaker 1And I built a 28,000
25:30Speaker 1doctor network. What year is this like time frame? 5 years ago, 5 years ago, started doing it. But over those years, I was the guy
25:37Speaker 1that was know everybody went direct to consumer. And I went to the doctor networks. And that's where I grew up, grew to hundreds of million dollars like for overnight, not overnight, but you know, year and 0.5 we went from 0 to 170,
25:51Speaker 1dollars 180,000,000.
25:52Speaker 3And you were panning the pavement by yours, I mean, not by yourself, you actually were. Because I know you were because I've talked to a few doctors who've who've told me that they that you
26:02Speaker 1walked in there and or and talked to them. I was on every call. I'd show up. I fly to a place. I mean, Doctor. John Janquish, I flew to Sacramento to meet with him, you know?
26:10Speaker 1You know, Austin,
26:12Speaker 1I, you know, Dallas had drive around and see accounts.
26:16Speaker 1And we were actually getting back to that. So it turned into
26:19Speaker 110 99 workers and then they all turned into idiots. Yeah. Not all, but turned to the bags is the lie. She's stealing anything they could do is we don't wanna do business with that. And then so now I started bringing on my best guys, started bringing them onto my company, and we're gonna start doing that again. We're training our own network, and we're gonna start walking back in because it's more systems now. We're not just peptides, we're everything.
26:41Speaker 1So you go into Alpha- Sync for instance,
26:44Speaker 1it is Amazon for doctors. We
26:48Speaker 1make everything. So
26:50Speaker 1it's, and we're a fraction of the cost.
26:53Speaker 1So it allows them to make money inside of stores, they don't technology is easy, but to get a doctor to stop for 30 minutes on a phone call and say, yeah, show me some Well, they're getting yelled at by the nurse that, you know, patients been waiting for whatever. So
27:08Speaker 1we're like, no, we're gonna show up and we're gonna get a time. We're gonna come in at that time or we're gonna train, you know, their head nurse. And the head nurse goes, Doctor, you have to see this. Yeah. This is really gonna show all about it. I gotta train. And we're gonna do that in person. Yeah. You know? That's awesome. Yeah. Who knows? Think of,
27:25Speaker 3what do you think of single mothers as employers? Do you think they make the best employees? I think they're great employees.
27:31Speaker 3The best. I just say we have, we have a couple of staff and they've kicked ass for us. And I think that it's interesting when starting to hire, mean, you have way more experience than that. That was kind of a
27:41Speaker 3that was meant to be kind of a joke, but- No. I- I- uh- I love it. But it's actually, but it's, I don't know, it's kind of interesting. Like, they have learned to just do everything and rise to the occasion and be very well rounded.
27:53Speaker 1Oh, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you a little story. There's a facility that I work for, Los Javes, and the entire facility was all single mothers.
28:01Speaker 1Because
28:02Speaker 1down in that area of Mexico,
28:04Speaker 1very cartel driven, most of the husbands were killed, so we just decided we're gonna hire all single moms to take care of them. Yeah. Dang. And they bust their fucking ass. Yeah. Well, anybody can.
28:15Speaker 1Mean- If I can. Sure. Anybody can, but motivation of a mom taking care of their child is a hell a lot more motivating than a single dude that wants to go out and drink beers on the weekend. Absolutely.
28:24Speaker 3And they've had to learn a lot. They've had to adapt and just kind of be able to multitask and do everything. Survivors, man. Yeah. There's a lot.
28:32Speaker 1Forever now that we're together, but
28:34Speaker 1I hear her life. She lives out DC. I'm moving out there. Her life is tough to fit. Yeah. She's a professional tattoo artist, so she tries tattoos 6 to 8 hours a day. Wow. She has cooked all the meals. She she goes to the gym. She reads him. She doesn't watch any TV.
28:51Speaker 3She reads to him. She plays with them. Don't know how she does it. I don't know how she does it. No, she doesn't sleep. Dude, this is gnarly. I
28:58Speaker 2got a 5 and a 2 year olds. And I've
29:01Speaker 2used this so many times as it's crazy because I, if I want to go to the gym on a Saturday, I jump in my truck, go to the gym. My wife has to get my 2 kids Yeah. Screaming and fighting, literally screaming at the top of their lungs.
29:12Speaker 2Buckle them. One's like And she Fight for the sass. Yeah. Got 1 in. It's my other 1. This 1 just spilled. We're smitey. It's crazy chaos. Holy shit. And then she gets to the gym, then and she's gotta get that chaos out again, and then she gotta get it out. It's 4 hours. It's crazy.
29:28Speaker 1And so single mother's listening. My we my heck. We salute you. How do you do? We salute you. It is so, like, holy shit, man. So Anybody that's, like, dogs on,
29:39Speaker 1like, their significant other for being a stay at home mom, I'm like, take it. Oh, no. Take it. Yeah. That is a way harder. I'll pay for everything. I'm
29:47Speaker 1a work 20 hours a day so I don't gotta go home screaming. I wanna, you know, this thing, I wanna go home and like play and have those things, but the reality is is to
29:57Speaker 1try and negotiate with a 3 year old
29:59Speaker 1is way harder than me negotiating with a doctor. And
30:03Speaker 2they're hard enough. Dude, you should hear my 5 year old debate my wife. Yes, babe.
30:08Speaker 1Say no. Say no. Just can't say no. Then what came out of the other 1? He goes, he said,
30:14Speaker 1for the love of God, mom.
30:17Speaker 1She's like, yo, Ernie,
30:19Speaker 1dinner with me. For the love of God, mom, leave me alone. She's like, where did you learn that? Yeah. That's She's like, for the love of god, mom, the questions. And she's like, what? I love the innocence of kids. She's just dying laughing on the phone. It's so funny. She's like, I wanna be mad, but it's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. You know? You can't get mad. So how's you're going out to DC, man. That's a have you lived in that on the East Coast? I have never lived anywhere but here. I
30:41Speaker 1never thought I was gonna live anywhere
30:43Speaker 1but here. I mean, other than, you know, a vacation home. Sure. But I why would I wanna leave? This is perfect weather. Right. I'd literally
30:50Speaker 1can't over or underdress Yeah. Almost any day. Like, where we live, man. It's all good. You wanna wear a sweater? Go ahead. You're gonna be fine. Yeah. You wanna wear shorts? You're not gonna freeze. That works for it. I'm gonna go to the DC, and I guarantee you, I will be a popsicle at some point because I will I I don't even own a jacket. No. Mhmm. You know? Well, you're gonna 1st go there and just sweat like you just would just un 95 degrees, 90% humidity right now. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So Sunday is gonna be a reckoning for me.
31:18Speaker 1She's like, oh, you have a stretch of downpour right now. Oh man. She's like, yeah, you can't even walk outside.
31:24Speaker 2Is that gonna work with your main companies
31:26Speaker 1in Irvine? Yeah. Yeah, I'm still building the corporate office off of Dyer right over here. Oh yeah, wow. I'll be back and forth because my plan is to work 10 days in the office here around,
31:36Speaker 1and then I'll spend I travel so much anyway. Yeah. Okay. And then the rest of the time, I'll be there or wherever I need to be, but it's it's gonna be a 50 50 split. And, obviously, hopefully, I can change that down the road to maybe less. But, yeah, I need to I need to still be here. But I have
31:51Speaker 1so many buildings on the East Coast. It's actually really good for me. So, like, I on Monday so I fly home or to new home on Sunday.
31:58Speaker 1Monday morning,
32:00Speaker 1I fly to
32:02Speaker 1Palm Beach
32:03Speaker 1and I drive, I hit my 503 a, then I go 45 minutes, hit my other 503 a, 20 minutes, get to my 503 b. He's coming. Shut up. Yeah, pretty much. And I'll see all those sites and then I'll have dinner with the president and all that kind of stuff. But, and then I'll fly home the next morning or no, fly to Charleston next morning and I'll go see my 3PL, my sites there. We're building a $100,000,000.05
32:25Speaker 1$0.03 being that down in Charleston right now on Daniel Island.
32:30Speaker 1So I'll go out there. I'll see that. And then I'll stop in Atlanta
32:34Speaker 1or go back to Atlanta because you can't get back to DC very easily. I go to Atlanta and I'll see my pharmacies out there. Fly home. I 3 days I can hit 12 sites. What's
32:43Speaker 3on South Carolina? Is there like more lax laws
32:46Speaker 1manufacturing? Not easy at all. I do a business partner. Okay. He was, he was, so the people that you could talk to originally,
32:53Speaker 1no 1 knew anything. He was a very well off construction
32:57Speaker 1owner. Okay. Probably worth a couple $100,000,000.
33:00Speaker 1Young guy. Smart. Smart.
33:03Speaker 1His wife has MS, so he was trying to find a cure for MS. Cool.
33:07Speaker 1So, but, you know, at some point, the risk doesn't,
33:11Speaker 1you know, fit the reward. And his wife is like, dude, get the hell out of this business. So he
33:16Speaker 1sold the business to me, and I brought in new partners that I wanted, Doug, you know Doug, Rob, and we continued
33:24Speaker 1the trend and we brought it to he's like, I gotta give it to you because I know you'll turn it into what I my dream was. We did. For sure.
33:33Speaker 2And all that stuff that you do, what would you say is where's your heart? Like, like, what is are you most passionate about?
33:39Speaker 1God. That's a lot to juggle.
33:41Speaker 1I mean, honestly honestly, it's just helping people.
33:44Speaker 1I'm a sucker for that. Sure. Like, I go I to charity events and I'm just like, take all my money, you know?
33:51Speaker 1But I'm really enthralled with I'm a creator and I'm a fixer. To be honest with you, when things are going wrong, I'm happiest.
33:58Speaker 1Because I like fixing them. Sure. Like, and people's You thrive in chaos. People's hardest Yes. People's hardest part because
34:05Speaker 1I love them all and I sometimes just can't understand why they're unhappy.
34:09Speaker 1It's usually greed related for people or It's ego. Or it's, you know, they feel like they're being left out and something.
34:17Speaker 1I don't purposely leave anybody out. I'm just so busy that my time can only stretch so far. Sure.
34:23Speaker 1But, you know, it's that's the thing. I I wanna please everyone.
34:27Speaker 1That that's the hardest part of my life. That's hard. Yeah. It's in my life. Yeah. That is hard. I feel the same way. I mean, I have those tendencies. Awesome. I mean, how many employees do you guys have now? What? 14 full time family. Something like that. You can pick up the phone, call all 14 people every single day. Right? Yeah.
34:43Speaker 1But that would be hard. It would be hard. It would actually be, you know yes. I I mean,
34:48Speaker 1so many that we have, I don't even everybody wants my time. Sure. Yeah. The people that you actually need to connect with and you wanna call, you can't even get to. Sure. Without, like, sacrificing
34:59Speaker 1I mean, I I get up every morning at 05:30 and immediately,
35:02Speaker 1like, I am,
35:04Speaker 1you know, I'm missing my mouth, I'm texting. All the through.
35:08Speaker 1And then I get in the car, I'm sorry, government, I text everywhere I go in the car. I've
35:14Speaker 1never been in an accident. Yeah, I'm good. I've never done it once. I'm very, I can multitask. And then I get to the gym and I get the
35:22Speaker 1entire time of the gym and then I get home, my phone is dead.
35:25Speaker 1And then I immediately take, sometimes I don't take a shower. I get on phone call, on Zoom calls. And then my assistant is shoving food in my mouth because she knows I mean she's literally feeding me water. I can't clean my house. And then this goes all way through till about 11:00 at night, and then I jump in bed. I put on anything on TV, and I pass out the 1st 5 minutes. Doy. And I get about 5 hours, 5.5 hours sleep. Is that hard to juggle everything, though? Like, meaning, like,
35:49Speaker 2brain is going, going, going, going, going, going. So it's all that sleep, though. Yeah. So then, okay, so there's I get shut down. Yeah. But this this is the only bad part. So when I go to do something for me Mhmm. Yeah.
35:59Speaker 1If it's not exhilarating,
36:01Speaker 1I'm out. Yeah. Right. Because my buddy's like, oh, you can't lay by a pool and read a book. No. I can't sit in a car. Yeah. If I if you're driving, I am out cold. If I get on an airplane, I never even know we'd leave the taxi. That's right. I just forgot. I don't remember the last time I played the golf.
36:16Speaker 1I- It's the best time to go to sleep is when it's pushing you back. Oh, yeah, no, I'm like, screw you. I'm putting this thing back during the last time. You know, I'm gonna grab a little I'm gonna fake this. I hold my finger on the button and then as soon as like, I'm like, I go to sleep and then the thing and automatically goes back. I don't think anybody's going to give you shit, bro. Yeah, no, you're right. They really do in battle if I behind you. So whenever I'm in an airplane and I see them, I just wedge my, I put my knee right here. Oh yeah, I go, what's up working? And I just go,
36:42Speaker 1and it what? At some point, they'll look at me and be like, you're taller. How would you the hell do you you're gonna do that? Sit in normal seats. I don't. It's miserable. I have bruises on the ends of my knees every time. I gave up on that. I sit in 1st class or premium,
36:56Speaker 3so I get my extra 8 inches. We just she booked us some flights actually, like, in like, she worked she worked hard. We we didn't have 1st class, but she got us in well Premium. On premium.
37:06Speaker 1On the way back, we did have 1st class, and it makes I mean, it's a it's a it's a complete game. You fly enough. I think I flew 200 plus flights last year. They started just upgrading you anyway, which is kind of nice.
37:17Speaker 1But,
37:19Speaker 1the
37:20Speaker 1like, I I've told my sister, I go, if I if you cannot it has to be a direct flight and it has to be because I'll fly the 1st flight on the morning. Yeah. I will go all the way to the end and get on the flight. I'll just pass out because no one's awake over here. And when I do wake up on that flight,
37:35Speaker 1it's probably 8AM here and then I just start banging away like normal and everybody thinks I went on since 4 like 2 or because I'm email you. I'm going to the airport in the Uber, and I'm doing emails. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, this crackhead is emailing me at 1 in the morning, 2 in the morning. Then I'll get to the airport gate. I'll start doing more, then I'll pass out on the plane. Never stops. No. But I, you know, I do work hard there.
37:57Speaker 1Yeah. That's good. This is how my life is. So I will then jump on an airplane and I will fly to Thailand for 3 days. It's awesome. You're good. It's awesome. Yeah. And then like, yeah, I go to every concert I wanna go to, Big music nut. Oh, you're talking a little shit this morning. I was we're punk rockers around here, dude. Like, I'm gonna give you a punk rocker. Bump. You know what? You'll love this. So my assistant Tracy, her son, is dating Pennywise's daughter. No way. Yeah. That's funny. They're they're going on their, like, 1st or 2nd date. Pennywise got me to punk rock band. Yeah. Very 1st Pennywise. I was gonna I have, like, 3 or 4 albums of Pennywise tapes. Tapes. If you know what a tape is out there. Yeah. A cassette. What the hell is that? Not the stuff you stick to the wall. That's a cassette tape. Mhmm. These kids Well,
38:39Speaker 1how about this? This is always a fun 1. I always do this at Christmas with the kids. I go, do you know the sound?
38:47Speaker 1They're like, what are doing?
38:49Speaker 2That's how you see it on the Internet. Did you see that, there was, a TikTok thing or something where they give these kids this, old school, like, can opener? They're like, what is this? They had no clue what you got. Actually, like, these kids are like, really? The hell is this? Yeah. I mean, that's actually pretty tough. Have you ever tried using 1 of those? It suck. Yes. They're not the easiest. Whoever thought of that, I'd have mentioned.
39:09Speaker 1They they All of sudden, you're like, yeah. They change it in hot this on here? Oh. Yeah. Man. Sick. That for how long? Yeah. Seriously, bro. Did you ever see the old beer cans? Yeah. Did they they're like oil cans. Yeah. You you had a Cranko. Yeah. You had to a little divot on those onions. Oh, yeah.
39:24Speaker 2Old school. Yeah. Come a long way, man. With,
39:28Speaker 2social media,
39:29Speaker 2you're not a big social media guy, nor is Will. I wasn't until it became like a career.
39:34Speaker 2Guys do it. But, yeah. So
39:37Speaker 2with you seeing kind of some of the stuff out there,
39:40Speaker 2you're knowledgeable guy, you know what you're talking about when
39:43Speaker 2people like, when you see a lot of stuff, that's not legit,
39:46Speaker 2how hard is that for you to see?
39:48Speaker 2And do you think that social media has been good for peptides or bad for peptides? Both. It
39:55Speaker 1literally
39:56Speaker 1shed light to it, but now it's become a problem. Sure. Yeah. Cause you know, the problem with society is Instagram vacation and people
40:04Speaker 1will believe anything. True. You know, if I go on there and I- It's all on Facebook. I mean, as someone that has a reputation in the industry that I do have a little bit, if I go on tomorrow and I post
40:15Speaker 1something to the fact that
40:17Speaker 1it's all over, everybody's going for the shutdown. I got the phone call. It's all over in a week. I guarantee you,
40:24Speaker 1I would get a 100,000 phone calls. There'd be everywhere on the internet would be like, whole industry is going Bye bye bye. I could do that as a joke under, like Mhmm. Yeah. April fools? Sure. Fuck with everybody.
40:36Speaker 1I would never do that because it's not good. Yeah. But you you could do that in sort of cases. And the problem is is these people that manipulate
40:43Speaker 1tens of twenties, I mean, Ronaldo has 6 50000000
40:46Speaker 1followers.
40:47Speaker 1If Ronaldo gets on next week, starts talking about peptides. Oh my God. He could be speaking out of his complete ass. Yeah. He's got 6 58000000 people that might listen to him. Shit. Right? That's the problem with it now. In the beginning, when the Jake Hamilton's Hunter, Hunter Williams,
41:01Speaker 1you know, things like that, they were
41:03Speaker 1giving
41:04Speaker 1factual information. They were literally reading science books, all this stuff. They're like, okay, this is in accordance with this and this study and this study, You know, it was really educational in the beginning. And most of it was on YouTube, not on like any Instagram. Yeah.
41:17Speaker 1But now it's turned in. And then now the battle of shutting all those people down.
41:21Speaker 1But, I mean, even the smart ones say dumb things.
41:24Speaker 1The 1 that killed me the other day was this woman that got on and it's like BPC causes cancer. Yeah. On that 1 podcast.
41:31Speaker 1And TB-five 100. Nuts, bro. TB-five 100 was like, please stop her. It was so
41:36Speaker 1bad. No. No. Go look at the study.
41:38Speaker 1TB-five hundred had no issues. It was going well. They canceled the study because the next phase was like a $100,000,000.
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42:44Speaker 1To do, and there's no way to patent it. Well, she had to be, like, from big pharma She had to. I mean, she was so bad at sales in the well. You're full of shit, lady. Like but I'm surprised you even had what is it? Sean Ryan? Yeah. Sean. He had it on there. I was like, man. Man, I can't believe Sean Ryan let that happen. I would have been like Stop talking. Stop
43:02Speaker 1That's not how it works. BPC a lot of fire, though. Like, she was yeah. Blasting the comments. Yeah. But do you know many phone calls and emails and text messages I got? I got that stupid feed Yeah. And over. 30, 45 times an hour that Sure.
43:17Speaker 1Uh-huh. Same thing with doctor we talked about last time, doctor Trevor Bachmar, the stupid comments about that blends don't work. Yeah. Oh, the other 1, Doctor. Seeds, when he said, yeah, all bio regulators are just expensive,
43:28Speaker 1piss.
43:29Speaker 1It's like, he's like, there's, there's no information on these. Okay. There's 50 of it in Russia. Yeah, right.
43:35Speaker 2How do they stop that though? Like, I mean, can they stop that? I mean, you have- Freedom of speech. Well,
43:41Speaker 2I'm saying in regards to, like research, like research companies and things like that, now everybody and their brother a has peptide company, you know? And like there are a lot of people now are going direct to China and like not testing them at all, not even companies, but people.
43:55Speaker 2And we all know that they're not going to all test the way that they're going to test. It's kind of, how are they going to, how are they going to like, there's
44:02Speaker 1just gonna be a rude awakening if you don't have the right paperwork. Testing. Yeah. Soon.
44:08Speaker 1So this is, this is what a lot of people don't understand about the Chinese market. The Chinese make this shit way better than I do. Yeah. In reality, my facility might cost
44:17Speaker 1$1,015,000,000
44:18Speaker 1dollars to start, and I have ones that go up to maybe $50.70, $100,000,000 in the big ones I'm building now.
44:24Speaker 1Their facilities in China probably started 300,000,000 going to billions. These
44:28Speaker 1these are
44:30Speaker 1state
44:31Speaker 1of the art
44:32Speaker 1K. Facilities because they're making all the raw materials for the world people. For sure. This is not a you get those things from all over. It's it's like if I go you build a house in Newport Beach. Mhmm. Is that an American made house? Right. Built here, you built the house. Is it an American made house? What would you say? I would say yes. Okay. Yes. K. Where'd all the parts come from for that house? Right. Well, no. The nail the nails came from, came from Russia. Sure. The wood came from Canada. Right. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Shit came from yeah. A lot of shit come all the plastic stuff probably from China. For sure. Your house is an American house, but the things we do, we specialize,
45:05Speaker 1and the countries have figured out. And that's why we have these
45:09Speaker 1these groups. Like, I'm a member of, the Pacific,
45:13Speaker 1like trade association. So
45:15Speaker 1the reason why they get together
45:17Speaker 1every 2 or 3 or 4 years and they go over like, Hey, what are you guys getting into? So we don't double do this and screw each other over. Sure. Because you're gonna buy stuff from us, we need to buy stuff from you. If we both start building widgets,
45:31Speaker 1we're both gonna be screwed. Yeah, right. Right? Let's be smart about this. So they get together and they talk about, hey, we have this resource we're gonna get into and they, you know, figure it out.
45:41Speaker 1So, you know, China making the raw materials is disgusting. It's horrible pollutants. Totally. It's expensive. These facilities cost a ton of money to put up. And guess what? Our labor here in America sucks. Our our energy centers suck. We use coal, oil.
45:58Speaker 1I mean, solar is like the only thing that we kinda have this clean and those things aren't when you build them, they're not clean. Sure. Whereas China has all nuclear energy, which is clean. So you look at it and go, they have the best advantage to do this process
46:10Speaker 1over there. Let them have it. Now, what is not legal in China is making a finished good. Yeah. I know most people don't know that. So the bottle, when the, you know, when people were buying, you know, $50,000,000
46:21Speaker 1a year in peptides 10 years ago,
46:24Speaker 1that's like China reacting to, and I say this all the time reacting to, I got a phone call that there's a cat stuck in the tree. Like,
46:30Speaker 1I'll be there eventually, You know, like, your cat down. They're
46:35Speaker 1not going to go after these guys making, you know, if they stumble across it, sure. Right. It's like busty people with marijuana. You know, they're like, ugh,
46:44Speaker 1wasting my time. I was hoping you have fucking fentanyl. Yeah, yeah. So you get this going on. Well, now it's billions and now China's now stepping up going, wait a 2nd. I want my revenue
46:55Speaker 3on
46:55Speaker 1this
46:57Speaker 1$130,000,000,000
46:59Speaker 1industry that they're controlling. Sure. 80% of the peptides in the world coming from them. And
47:04Speaker 1they're not making a dime on it. Communist country, they want the money. So it's gonna get really hard,
47:09Speaker 1not on necessarily arbors, which they're gonna crack down on that too, but China is now getting involved. Yeah. They want the money. Sure, wouldn't you? Yeah. Of course. So that's what's gonna get hard. So even though you might still be able to get the goods, things are gonna get more expensive. Yeah. The that price point for $3,
47:24Speaker 1$5, $6, whatever, like if you're really buying large. Sure. They're gonna be like, it ain't worth it for us anymore because we're getting so many things confiscated.
47:33Speaker 1It's gonna come back up. Of course. But that's kind of where it is and, you know, we don't make API over here like bulk. There's some companies trying to do it. And I talked to them and they've asked me to partner with them. And I go, okay, if I give you $8,000,000 to be a partner
47:47Speaker 1and I need to buy
47:49Speaker 1BPC, what's that going to cost me as a partner that's invested in this company? Do you know how much a kilo of BPC costs? No. Roughly. So if you're a big buyer, at about anywhere between 95 and $130, depending on like quality or source. I go, what is it gonna cost me? They're like 370,000.
48:05Speaker 1I go, what?
48:06Speaker 1Partner. I'm gonna pay $8,000,000 to increase
48:09Speaker 1my cost throughout a percent. Yeah. Yeah. I I go, doesn't make any sense. They're like, but it's all American made now. And I go,
48:17Speaker 1yes, but I can't take through, like, it's already a price battle. Sure. That might make sense
48:22Speaker 1down the road. Sure. But right now, I think you're gonna spend a lot of money to get, get a lot of door slam in your face. Yeah.
48:29Speaker 1Gotcha. And that's the reality. So that's why how this whole thing kind of works. And
48:34Speaker 1who knows where it's gonna settle? I'll tell you right now, like, we need China to make all these materials because we won't let it happen here. Yeah. They won't. Like, I actually applied to build an API
48:44Speaker 1facility, not to make like hundreds and hundreds of kilos, but to be able to make maybe
48:48Speaker 1like 10 to 15 kilos a month because I wanna make the specialty items. Yeah. That are really hard to find. JDD, DBM, Clotho, Follistatin, FLGR 2 42. Nice. It's hard to get those things. It's harder. You don't find people making them. They're hard. So if I can make them, every city turned me down. Really? Yeah, they are. Is it is
49:05Speaker 1it environmental?
49:06Speaker 1That's the problem. Yep. So bad for the environment. Yeah. Yeah.
49:11Speaker 3Don't Which
49:13Speaker 3mind.
49:13Speaker 2Right. Right. I respect the environment. Let's protect our environment. We should. We should do a better job of it. We should do Well, that's a interesting, man. So like, what would you say if somebody came to you and like, do they, do you think that people missed the boat in regards to the peptide wave? Are we just at the beginning? You know, everybody's starting a peptide company. They think it's very easy and it's just not easy. Guys, it's not easy. You guys got in
49:36Speaker 1early enough. I'd say if you're in now, you're, you have an uphill battle. Yeah. You better have money. The days of
49:43Speaker 1I'm going to buy,
49:44Speaker 1you know, a couple boxes
49:46Speaker 1and keep buying boxes and I can, you know, get a deal for these people call me and they're like, yeah, I want to get that
49:52Speaker 1price. You have like 25,000 units
49:55Speaker 1and I'm still $10 more than what you want to pay. Yeah. They're like, oh, can I get a loan? And I actually do. I give
50:01Speaker 1people 50% loans on their opening orders.
50:04Speaker 1Finance them. Okay. Because
50:06Speaker 1people I like. Yeah. But,
50:10Speaker 1every single person I talk to, I go, get ready. This is not easy like it used to be. No.
50:15Speaker 1Because now you gotta go spend money on marketing and that's hard. You gotta find merchant processing very hard. Good luck. I mean, I have a merchant processor. I can give you merch. Like for instance, if you buy from me, I can give you merchant process.
50:25Speaker 1Under 5%,
50:27Speaker 1but you have to be a customer because
50:29Speaker 1connected to us. Yeah, of course. Right? But if
50:33Speaker 1I, if you guys did 1000000 dollars and $2,000,000
50:36Speaker 1in process a month, usually go, can't touch them because their bank, all these banks have been screwed
50:43Speaker 1over or, you know, shut down by Mastercard.
50:45Speaker 1They get hit with fines, 210,000. I got $210,000
50:49Speaker 1for Mastercard.
50:51Speaker 1It actually wasn't American Express
50:53Speaker 1From bullshit.
50:54Speaker 1That's
50:55Speaker 2just a day in the life of peptides, bro. Whenever we started 3 months in. $60, they held Chase held $60
51:01Speaker 1for
51:02Speaker 1seven-1s. Seven-1s.
51:04Speaker 1Ball account anymore. Nope. The frozen frozen gone. It's a bitch, man. Yeah. So these people are, you, okay, great. You got in. Now you're paying 13%.
51:13Speaker 1You have to give up 40% of your income for the 1st $400,000
51:18Speaker 1You're not making any money. Everybody knows that. I don't get how you make money in this. Well, it was easier 3 years ago. Yeah.
51:26Speaker 3It's radically changed in the last year. Has. Like I said, if you're a really good marketer, you have a bank behind you, you can still do it. Yeah. But you gotta be doing it better and better and better. Like the standards, the people who can enter are people who are good business people with money. And they're gonna
51:42Speaker 1come in. We're seeing that a
51:46Speaker 1Correct. And right. They're not cutting corners. They're not cutting corners. No, they got the money. They don't have to. No, it's when they, when I give them my price sheet, go, this one's great. Yep. Because they're like, absolutely perfect. Yeah. And they, it's the other, it's all the other intangibles. So I'll build their software system,
52:01Speaker 1you know, I integrate all their stuff for them. So they can pick up the platform and they can just start, they can, you know, it takes longer than you think, but it still takes a couple months, 3 months to build all the integrations on, but we give them something that works and they have the option. And we tell them, if you want to go out and find something else, as long as it's not, you're not breaking the law, we'll integrate it into our system.
52:20Speaker 1You know, like you have a pharmacy you want work with, great, we'll put it in. I don't care. Maybe they have a real better deal than I make it for them. I'll buy it from them.
52:27Speaker 1If
52:29Speaker 1I'm making testosterone at $80 and they're selling it for 60, I'm going start buying it from them. Sure. Yeah. No, it doesn't cost that. Was thinking about you. So my telehealth. Know a guy. Yeah, how much, yeah, I know, right? So how much do you know what the market is right now? Know you guys have more peptides, but do you know what the market is right now for most people on telehealth? How much money they pay per month on testosterone? On a monthly basis? Monthly basis. I would say probably $3.50 a month. Okay. Do you know which I'm selling 3 months of testosterone for on my website? No. $90.
52:55Speaker 1Because
52:56Speaker 1I don't like taking advantage of people. Yeah. So when we launched the site in about a week where we're just waiting for the, like some, diagnostic
53:04Speaker 3crap
53:05Speaker 1because the blood work thing is always a challenge. As soon as it's done, we launch it. Yeah. You get it 3 months of testosterone for $90
53:12Speaker 1not $90 a month, dollars 90 total, dollars 30 a month. And I'm fine. I'm at $20. I'm happy with that. When I 1st started the finish
53:21Speaker 2stuff, I was stealing people from those types of things all the time. What the hell are paying? Yeah. Trans sadness. Ultimate. That's good. When
53:28Speaker 3I see that, I don't know.
53:30Speaker 1Thousand $890.
53:31Speaker 1I read this. I go, bro.
53:33Speaker 1$340.
53:34Speaker 2Yeah. They would send me. I would like, bro, what? I'm telling you to go from there. Woah. I know Paul is. Yeah. Paul was from He, like, helped to build the whole cells. That's why well,
53:42Speaker 1it's not why. I actually met him before that, but I held he helped me build mine. Mhmm. Yeah. He's just He told us that. Yeah. He's integral
53:49Speaker 3piece. And now he's gonna is he doing something? Is he gonna start training people? Or So I know that's what he I mean, that's Yeah. That's his. He loves ours. That's where it's hard.
53:57Speaker 1He loves loves that. He's a teacher. So I paid him to train our staff. Yeah, as you should. So we're gonna actually allow him to do that as a career and a business that he'd sell. So I talked to him and I go, Hey, so how much do you do you charge? I charge 10,000 to $30,000 but that's a lot of money. It's great. I go, so how much work do you put in? I go, how many of these accounts can you do in a month? It's like probably 3 or 4. I go, okay. So best case scenario,
54:23Speaker 1$90.
54:24Speaker 1There's a cap on that. Let's say you called a 100. I go, you're gonna make 1000000 bucks a year. Go, that's good money. I go, what do you think I will sell for? He goes,
54:31Speaker 1yeah,
54:33Speaker 1I'm not supposed to buy that. Right? So
54:36Speaker 1I go, what if I give you the infrastructure? And not to mention, I have 28,000 doctors. It probably is a lot of them do need help. I'm going to open that up. You're an employee with us. I'll go into business with you, but I'm going to generate an entire plan for you and we're going to start training our doctors in our network that have time. And instead of you baking 10,
54:55Speaker 1we're going to give them
54:56Speaker 15, we're going to split 5. But instead of just you doing 3, we're gonna get 300.
55:01Speaker 1So you're gonna get 300 to 3 thousands. Now you're making 1,000,000 a month.
55:05Speaker 1And
55:06Speaker 1these doctors are gonna be stoked. They're like, wait a 2nd. I gotta go do a class on peptides for 1 day. Make, make $5. And then if you get them to sign up, we'll give you 1000 dollar bonus. How does the doctor make $5? Because we're gonna, we're gonna educate them. Gonna pay them to go. To do 2 for the education. Yeah, Paul going into the education. Paul is going to train these people into mini Paul's. Well, it makes more sense because then they sell more. They know more. They sell Where do they buy it from? But this is the best part. We have all the doctors. We know the good ones. So we can go, who's our best doctors in Dallas. Let's start calling to see if they're interested. Most of these guys,
55:39Speaker 1hell yeah, I can do a couple of these a month, get an extra 10,020 thousand dollars in my bank account. Easy math. It's money for the kids, vacations.
55:45Speaker 1Right. And then, okay, we need someone here. We need someone here so we can go around and start cherry picking areas that need the most help. And
55:53Speaker 1you know, if we need to fly them somewhere, we can, we'll pay for that, but we're gonna, we're gonna create an actual education network. We already built the platform. We have a 100,000 pages of information
56:03Speaker 1on peptides.
56:04Speaker 1And we have tests.
56:06Speaker 1We dumb it down to 0.167 grade reading level so that the words are too big.
56:11Speaker 1You know, could be, you can set up to where you're not allowed to move on until you actually answer the question.
56:17Speaker 1It's easy, you know, if you want to learn about, you know, what the hazardous materials are of any peptide, that's a section. So you can see toxicology reports, all
56:26Speaker 1of that. So if you're like, well, is it bad for you? Can it kill you? Well, go to the toxicology. That's every, literally every report- It's a roadmap for them to like- that product, does the sale kill you? No. Then you have to-
56:38Speaker 2Dude, when I,
56:39Speaker 2I met I met, how
56:41Speaker 2you met Paul, I met Jay Campbell and Hunter. So I was up at a conference
56:45Speaker 2and,
56:46Speaker 2I had brought my kids, which was a bad idea because they're running all over and walking down the wind and trying to catch 1 of them. And I look up and Campbell's looking at him and goes, JD, come here. I'm like, so I go talk to him and Hunter. I got a picture and all that. My wife's looking and then, know,
56:59Speaker 2they leave. My wife goes, who was that? I'm all that was Jay Campbell. Hunter was, she's like, are you kidding me? I'm like, what? But anyway, so he came on the podcast and-1s): He's such a good dude. He's such a good dude, man.
57:10Speaker 2Anyway, he'd said basically that they had like, kind of like a forensic
57:14Speaker 2auditor, so to speak, come in to look at their website.
57:17Speaker 2How can we obviously monetize this as much as possible, blah, blah. And they did their studies, blah blah. They looked into it and they said,
57:24Speaker 2you need to dumb it down.
57:26Speaker 2Mean, you're like, no, people don't understand what you're saying. Yeah. And he's like, you know, Jay, he's like, are you fucking kidding me? He's
57:33Speaker 1not dumbed down any. Yeah.
57:34Speaker 1But I tell him that'd be pretty funny, man. You kind of got to do that. You do. That's why I think that's why I was able to connect with doctors because in the beginning it was, I wasn't a doctor and they were upset by that. But 1 of the peptides started coming around, they also like explain it to him and I wasn't gonna
57:48Speaker 1big dick them. Yeah. You know? I just try and teach what they were. You know what I mean? So they didn't feel like, I don't know,
57:54Speaker 1as much of that, I don't know, the dividing force that can come up where the ego kicks in. Yeah. That self righteous
58:03Speaker 2ruse of a stool. They're the smartest dumb people I know. Right. You know what I mean? They're insanely
58:09Speaker 1smart, but what they don't wanna, they don't care about, they're dumb. Yeah. And a lot of people are like that for anything. You go to an engineer,
58:16Speaker 1right? Holy crap. Like, you have you built that?
58:20Speaker 2That's dams. But
58:22Speaker 1then you, you know, you ask them to go cook you a hamburger in the kitchen. Like,
58:26Speaker 2what, my kid was in here? Yeah. Like, what happened here? Seen so many smart doctors that like because I did mortgages. I've seen every,
58:34Speaker 1like, financialist of life, you know? Like, there's just they don't all know how to run their business. They're not business leaders. They're They're smart. It's true. And that's why- That doesn't mean you know how to run a business. And that's why we built Alpha- Sync because they don't know how to run something. They're too busy to run this. They're in the should be talking to patients. Sure. That's like, like, me, you asked me if I had had smart people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I brought
58:55Speaker 1smart people. My COO is a freaking genius.
58:58Speaker 1I stole the VP from himsin hers. You
59:02Speaker 1know, I've the like, she she runs all of my organization for our company. Mhmm. All of our project management. You know, you look at Paul. He's way smarter than me. I brought in a medical director. I brought, you know, you look at it, I stole the general manager of CAPS, the 2 big 503Bs.
59:18Speaker 1He runs my network in Charleston. Smart. Like you bring the best guys in the industry.
59:24Speaker 1I stole Eli Lilly's
59:26Speaker 1QC guy. Holy shit. Like, they're 1 of the top guys. Man. So
59:30Speaker 1he knows how to QC.
59:34Speaker 2He's the marquee star on Monday. Well, they have an audit right now. What do we say? You want to get the rooms with the right, right men that'll change your life? You better have a damn good knock.
59:43Speaker 3Boom. Boom. So Paul did. I'm I'm we're stoked for it. I told him we we call him brother, man. We love that guy. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We love Paul. We've known him for a long time. You got a good heart. He's got a good heart. Yeah. We like him a lot. Question. We're running out of time, but this is what
59:57Speaker 3do you take? What supplements,
59:58Speaker 3if you're willing to tell us? Always. What's
1:00:01Speaker 3what are you taking right now? Right now? From like protein
1:00:05Speaker 3powder to peptides to testosterone.
1:00:08Speaker 1Okay. So I've been doing a lot of test testing of stuff. So I take Evogene non caffeinated
1:00:13Speaker 1pre workout. Okay. I do gains
1:00:16Speaker 1creatine.
1:00:17Speaker 1I do
1:00:19Speaker 1global formulas,
1:00:21Speaker 1BCAs.
1:00:22Speaker 1Okay. That's what I take before the gym. Don't, I don't before
1:00:24Speaker 1the gym, unless it's like a night thing and I beat, but get up in the morning, I go downstairs, I make that, I take a Tesofensine.
1:00:31Speaker 1Yeah. And I take 50 mg of Anovars. Is your Tesofensine 500
1:00:35Speaker 1micrograms? Okay. Micrograms. Yeah. I take 50 mg of Anovar. Yes, I have a license. I can make Anovar. That's great. Legally.
1:00:43Speaker 1I have a license for it. I'm not taking a steroid. That's illegal. Yeah. And then I do 5 units of growth hormone, 4 days on, 1 day off. Okay. Sometimes it changed based on schedule we talked about earlier. And
1:00:56Speaker 1then I do,
1:00:57Speaker 175 mg of NAD.
1:01:00Speaker 1Do 1 mg of Cmax.
1:01:02Speaker 1I do 0.5 a milligram of P21,
1:01:05Speaker 10.5 a milligram of slank, 0.5 a milligram oxytocin.
1:01:07Speaker 3And
1:01:08Speaker 1then I
1:01:10Speaker 1do,
1:01:11Speaker 11 mg of Clo.
1:01:14Speaker 1I kind of 1 1 1 kind of thing. And
1:01:17Speaker 1then, that's kind of the normal things. And then I rotate. So
1:01:21Speaker 1every month I have my, what do I do that month? Because you run things, you don't run SS-31. You don't run modesty all the time. So let's look at what June is. June peptides for June. So this month I ran
1:01:33Speaker 120 days of SS-thirty 1 at 5 mg a day. Great. Okay, good. I ran a cycle of Cardiogen,
1:01:40Speaker 1Cartilax,
1:01:41Speaker 1Penalon,
1:01:42Speaker 1Thymalon,
1:01:42Speaker 1LivAgain,
1:01:44Speaker 1and Brontogen.
1:01:45Speaker 1So all the bioregulators. Okay. So I'll just take those this month and then I will take them again 4 months later. That's great. Sweet. That's cool. So how long do you plan that out? Like, long do you plan that out? Like, do you- Oh, it's every month, so like July. Okay. But do you plan, 6 months, do you have 6 months planned out? Like, what do do? I have 20 years. Nope. Okay. Yeah. Literally, I type them on repeat and then I'll add into them based on things or take them out. So
1:02:07Speaker 1next month is MOTS-three because you repair SS-thirty 1, 31. Got it. Now I do that. And I clean out my dead bad cells with FOX-four. I do my
1:02:17Speaker 1Epitalon.
1:02:18Speaker 1Next month, I do Vasu Jin, Chernalutin,
1:02:21Speaker 1Pancreatine and Metformin.
1:02:25Speaker 1Next month will be something different. So if you had, you could only take 1, What would it be?
1:02:31Speaker 1I never Forever?
1:02:32Speaker 2Yep. 1, and that's your favorite of all. Not HGH because, like, I would probably but, like, let's say If I'm trying to lift from tears, you're out of what would it be? Clotho. Clotho.
1:02:41Speaker 1It's literally gonna keep you alive. Wow. If if I
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1:03:44Speaker 1Have to take 1.
1:03:46Speaker 1Otherwise,
1:03:50Speaker 1oh god. It's between Tesofensine
1:03:53Speaker 1and NAD. Wow.
1:03:54Speaker 1Okay. Okay. Because I'm a brain guy. Yeah. I love being smarter.
1:03:58Speaker 1If I can. Just lights you up. Nice. Yeah. My, I just fire. Like, you don't,
1:04:03Speaker 1you wake up and you just go. Yeah. Totally. It doesn't impede on my sleep. People are like, oh, I can't sleep. Well, yeah, you take anything. If you, 1st time you drink a Coke, can't you go to bed. Yeah, I've never had a problem. Like, it doesn't seem like it's just I get I take it right when I wake up and then Temperature. Oh, good, dude. Yeah. And it lasts 9 days in the system, so you're kinda if you miss it, you're not slugfest
1:04:24Speaker 1on it. Yeah. So, you know, I'll travel. Crap. I forgot it. Where's my lot of lot? I left it. Okay. 3 days. No big deal. After about 4 or 5 days, though,
1:04:31Speaker 3I start to go, you know I don't feel great today. You know, you do. Then When I go on vacation, I detox Yeah. Give my sensors a break.
1:04:39Speaker 1And I sure shit by day 3 or 4, I am tired. Yeah. I am napping. Yeah. How do you run it for then? How long roughly? I'll run it all year. I just take so the way that I take breaks, because I like taking breaks, I always undersell
1:04:51Speaker 1compared to take less than more on almost everything. Sure. Build up. Like I take 5 units of growth. Do not start there. Yeah. Start at 2. Right. Yeah.
1:05:00Speaker 1So everything I kind of built, I'm still on 500
1:05:02Speaker 1in Tesofensine. I've been on it for 3 years. Yeah. The
1:05:07Speaker 1I was even doing right then. But yeah, when I when I start like looking
1:05:12Speaker 1at taking anything that I take
1:05:15Speaker 1Thought through. You were taking about talking about how you're taking breaks, how you take your breaks, just how you took it for your Went went right back to where I was. Yeah. So I travel. So I look at it go, I'm not gonna bring Semax. 1 bottle is 30 days. Yeah. That's my break. Okay. So if I could spend
1:05:30Speaker 13 weeks at home,
1:05:32Speaker 1that means I get 1 week of break every month on LB-nine. I see the same thing with working out vacation.
1:05:37Speaker 3Like, we need Oh, I don't mind, bro. Like, you know, yes. We should lifting weights and lifting weights, man, it takes a toll. Sometimes we just need to let those tendons and muscles finally grow completely back. So on my vacations,
1:05:49Speaker 3that's my break for just not lifting. I do BPC-1M
1:05:52Speaker 1in the morning, 1 Mg at night. Yeah. And I do 5 Mg of TB-five hundred every 3 days. Yeah. Totally every vacation. I don't work out your healing. Yep. I can't. I got I have to. You will build some more muscle too. You get back? I will let your muscles slowly grow back. Get strong. Way bigger. Yeah. Way bigger. I always get back. Jesus. Yeah. I'm good.
1:06:10Speaker 3And you eat a bunch of carbs though. Yeah. So you're just dainty. So what are you most excited about? What peptides,
1:06:17Speaker 31 or 2 or 3, I don't know, are you most excited about that are emerging that are gonna come out, people that maybe people should be looking out for or excited about? We're talking about on the horizon. Yeah. That one's gonna cure a lot of problems. Yeah.
1:06:29Speaker 1With FLGR 2 4 2 is the 1st thing that really slaps muscle on you. Yeah. Jay's big promos. A new partner in that 1. The new cool 1, for all the GLP issue people that are gonna get hit with when Reta comes on, you're gonna be really hard to find that. Yeah.
1:06:43Speaker 1We have a new 1, lepto, and it has a little bit of IGF-one grafted on. Okay. And it's only once every 2 weeks of injection.
1:06:50Speaker 1Okay. So we already produced it. We're going through human trial.
1:06:54Speaker 1It's literally in my freezer. So it's 1 shot every 2 weeks, and it will help with muscle wasting as well. Right. And that's so where does is it a okay. What is the IGF-one
1:07:04Speaker 3purpose?
1:07:05Speaker 1So it's it's GLB, GIP, glucagon with IGF-one. So you can you're losing weight and the IGF keeps your muscle tissue. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. So you don't lose it as fast. It's very small amount, but also releases because it's got a 17 day binder. So you're literally just micro dosing every
1:07:23Speaker 1little
1:07:24Speaker 1bit. Okay. And then the bloodstream never anything more. The other thing with the Aloeven, so like for instance, if you take a Semaglutide,
1:07:30Speaker 1you take 1 mg,
1:07:32Speaker 1you know, a week. We
1:07:34Speaker 1can give you 0.1 that and you get the same result.
1:07:38Speaker 1Wow. Well, that's nice. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah. So that's a You know, burn receptors out on this. Yeah. And there's gonna be long term studies on that to make sure that our theory is correct, but that's what
1:07:49Speaker 1it models because you obviously run everything through models. So when you go to make a new product, you don't just go, Oh, I hope this works. You
1:07:55Speaker 1run, like I said, all the oral stuff that we're doing around, we created a product that coats
1:08:01Speaker 1the peptide,
1:08:03Speaker 1goes through the system, sneaks through the intestine, skips the liver and goes into your lymphatic system
1:08:09Speaker 1instead of your blood
1:08:11Speaker 1so that it would actually work because otherwise all worlds don't really work. Right? So
1:08:15Speaker 1we figured that out. So the modeling on it looks fantastic.
1:08:20Speaker 1Like it's 24 times more bioavailable,
1:08:22Speaker 1which is epic. The problem is, is when they do start doing these studies, just like if you go to a mice study, you look at the mice, there's a 100 mice in there. They all are white. They all red eyes. They all look the same size. They're all the same. Yeah. Humans are not that way. Sure. Right. That's right. That looks different than you. We're all different sizes and shapes. Yeah, right. It didn't work that way. And so when you, even though it models correctly or looks good at mice, once you get to a human, it doesn't fall the same. So our model looks directly right. So that was $250,000
1:08:49Speaker 1that I spent doing that. Now we're gonna spend 1000000 dollars actually human testing. So
1:08:54Speaker 1that starts in 30 days. We're doing all the formulations right now, producing all the tablets.
1:08:58Speaker 1It's all being done. No fun. In our drug manufacturing facility, legit IRB with the FDA. Oh, cool. Here we go. That's freaking awesome. Really List
1:09:08Speaker 3off some of the best success stories you've heard in this business. Like just some miraculous healings
1:09:13Speaker 1and we don't have much time. Just kind of maybe- It's a biceps. It's biceps. 1 of them. Yeah. So I had a young lady, I threw a party at a Doctor. Seeds conference a year ago in Vegas and a young woman walked up to me and she,
1:09:27Speaker 1she thanked me. I go, oh yeah, I'm like, nice to meet you. And she goes, she goes, no, no, no. I really need to thank you. And I go,
1:09:34Speaker 1course, you're welcome. What are you thinking of? She goes,
1:09:36Speaker 1I hadn't walked for 2 years.
1:09:38Speaker 1Woah. And I'm walking today. Holy shit. Yeah, she had a, she broke her, ankle and the bone wouldn't heal.
1:09:46Speaker 1So they kept on doing surgeries,
1:09:48Speaker 1which is all this stuff. She was in pain, would never heal. BPC TB 500 MGF,
1:09:55Speaker 1Man. Her leg healed. She was walking. Holy crap. Then there's a 92 year old woman that was bedridden,
1:10:01Speaker 1couldn't leave. She was asking her daughter to, to let her go. And
1:10:05Speaker 1we gave her a BPC and aura 2 90, and she was gambling
1:10:09Speaker 1with her girlfriends 3 days later
1:10:12Speaker 1at the casino.
1:10:14Speaker 1That was all in 6 of my mind. Man. If
1:10:17Speaker 1I could tell you, I've heard 1000000 of these stories. Oh, I can only imagine 12 years of it. So million stories. And I mean, the cancer, the reversal of kidneys,
1:10:26Speaker 1cirrhosis of the liver coming back.
1:10:30Speaker 1You know, obviously curing mom's cancer. You can't walk away from that 1,
1:10:34Speaker 1but it's insane. I mean, the, the amount of weight people lose and I sit there and go, there's no way my tattoo artists, I met her that did this piece. I met her in Colorado and
1:10:44Speaker 1she was 3
1:10:46Speaker 120 pounds.
1:10:48Speaker 1On her Instagram, when I was looking at her work, she was just jacked.
1:10:52Speaker 1Power lifter. Yeah.
1:10:54Speaker 1I go to get a chance to go, I'm like, woah, she ate herself. Yeah. Right.
1:10:59Speaker 1And, you know, very nice. I was on the phone the whole time working. She's touching my chest.
1:11:04Speaker 1She's like, you were the worst.
1:11:08Speaker 1I'm talking. Pulling lines on your chest. You're talking. She's yelling at me. But I got to the end day, I pulled the thing out of this late enough and
1:11:15Speaker 1she goes, so I heard you talking about today. Does that stuff really work? And I go, oh yeah. I literally walked over to my bag and I got her a couple bottles of stuff. I handed it to her. I said, trust me,
1:11:27Speaker 1take these. Wow. What do you well, how much they cost? I go, no, they're on me. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Take them. I promise you. Or her
1:11:33Speaker 1mom calls me the next morning from Germany.
1:11:36Speaker 1He goes, why do you give my daughter those?
1:11:38Speaker 1And I go, she seemed very sad,
1:11:40Speaker 1and she didn't know where to go. And I thought they would help. She starts crying.
1:11:44Speaker 1She goes, no. Nothing one's done that for my daughter in 10, 20 years. Wow. She like, should we cried all night for your generosity? Said, please
1:11:52Speaker 1trust me, I've never given her anything that wouldn't help her. She's down 120.
1:11:57Speaker 1Bad. And you're dating her. No. Different tattoo artists.
1:12:01Speaker 1Different tattoo artists.
1:12:03Speaker 1No, definitely not. She's had a lovely boyfriend. The last relation was not good. Oh, yeah. But her new boyfriend, he's a mortician.
1:12:13Speaker 1True, but they I I I went to my office. They were out here for 2 months tattooing all of our office. So pretty much if you don't have sleep That's dope. You can't get into our
1:12:21Speaker 1our crew. That's cool. At this point. Everybody's got, like, full bodysuits.
1:12:25Speaker 1Pretty nice. We got it's like in the you could skin to skin them when they die. Exactly. You're gonna hang them on the wall. Yeah. But no one's gonna die from all the stuff that's gonna die. Right? You're so rad, man. I mean, okay, let me ask you this. I I love asking this 1. What do you think the age of death is gonna be in 10 years? Not like
1:12:42Speaker 1in 10 years you, but if someone's born 10 years from now, how long do you think they'll live? Yeah. Average. What is the well, can I ask you what what the current average white family 70?
1:12:53Speaker 170 something. And it's gone up in the Yeah. It's been up since
1:12:58Speaker 3it's since '72. I would say in 10 years from now from maybe
1:13:02Speaker 180 years old. I'm going to guess 150.
1:13:05Speaker 3Holy shit. You think you were going to progress that fast? Yes. Because everything is Cleaning up toxins. We're
1:13:11Speaker 3cleaning up the food system. Think that the money will provide, I feel like here's the thing. Maybe for the top money makers, they could, the treatments will be there. I think it's for the masses,
1:13:20Speaker 1for the masses, for the rich.
1:13:22Speaker 1I think in 10 years, if you were in that normal lifespan,
1:13:26Speaker 1you will, we will get to a point over the next 50, 60, 70 years, we will end death.
1:13:30Speaker 1Wow. You're reversing cells. Do you, I mean, there's animals that don't die.
1:13:36Speaker 1They call it the, like the eternal jellyfish or something like that. It never dies. It will live forever. It recreates its own birth cells over and over and Jellyfish.
1:13:47Speaker 1But
1:13:48Speaker 1you know, the, the, that weird
1:13:50Speaker 1salamander that regrows, it doesn't just regrow. There's no scarring.
1:13:55Speaker 1Wow. We've been studying these things for years. That genetic
1:13:59Speaker 2information
1:14:00Speaker 1is being like, we can grow organs now. So the
1:14:04Speaker 1general organ in your body, every organ is set for 150 years. Don't quote me on the exact number, but something gives out 1st. So if you're a big drinker, your liver goes out, you're overweight, your heart, right? Something goes out 1st. Sure.
1:14:17Speaker 1Genetics, maybe get brain, but you're set. And when you're born for, you should live to a 150. That's why we can now regrow or we're going to be able to regrow organs and we can also use peptides and small molecules and all these things to fix them.
1:14:31Speaker 1Even if they're going the wrong direction. And with genetic testing, think about this. If you go get a genetic test right now, you didn't know if you were gonna get Alzheimer's with all these things before. If you're the CCG, not if it's when you're going to get Alzheimer's. Yeah. With Clotho, P-twenty 1, things like this, you can now take a 56 percent chance
1:14:48Speaker 1get Alzheimer's, which means you're gonna get it,
1:14:50Speaker 13. Listen, with these products is what they're Amazing, man. So now we've eliminated that death.
1:14:58Speaker 1Wow. Obesity is gone. That's heart disease. Yeah, yeah. Fatty liver, kidney problems, bone problems, all these, That goes away. We're gonna shoot through the world. Okay. Ruth. I'm just saying. My theory, you guys can call me out in 30 years.
1:15:11Speaker 2Oh, we're gonna be alive, baby. I'll remember that. Do you think that they want gonna be friends. I guarantee. The powers of b, pharma
1:15:17Speaker 1and all that, do you think they want that? I mean, I think that they do because it just means they're getting more money off of people for long. They're still gonna control the drug market. They're just gonna- Nope, I think so, people- People
1:15:28Speaker 2are just steering away from them, man. They they've like, whatever it was, was the catalyst to the change in each person. Right? We're all different.
1:15:37Speaker 2Feel another gut intuition, whatever.
1:15:40Speaker 2Like they're, we're moving in this direction and it's totally the opposite way, you know, and it's speeding up. Look at, look at the last year. You've been in it for 12 years. Yeah, but they're patiently waiting to take it back. But they will take it back. Like, they're still, we're still talking about a substance taking. Right? We're still talking about peptides.
1:15:56Speaker 3They'll- Amino acids. Great. All controlled amino acids.
1:15:59Speaker 1Yeah, they'll figure out a way.
1:16:01Speaker 1They always do.
1:16:02Speaker 1Even though it's a better way, but they'll figure out a way to control that too because it's still something you gotta take. You look at it and the biggest pharmaceutical companies in world never solve a disease. No. They've 0 They want you sick, dude. They want you sick. And our hospital care system, you know, we spend It's a bull. $5,000,000,000,000
1:16:18Speaker 1a year on Insane. Critical care medications is all you have for all the problems we have. That was a 0 50, 60, 70 years ago. You can spend anything.
1:16:26Speaker 1Right? It's the highest in the world by far. At some point, there is gonna be a shift. We need to blow up the insure the insurance system. Yeah. Yeah. Need to go buy dates. Sure. We need to eliminate all this bullshit with Medicare
1:16:39Speaker 1and all that. You gotta get rid of the people just sucking the money out and the fraud. Yes, yes, you do. You've got to get rid of the, these medications. Okay, here's statin drugs. Statins got God. Okay, the last thing and then you can shut me up. Do you realize that how
1:16:56Speaker 1putting a new drug to market goes now? How long? Well, there's not just that. A, they do that on purpose so that you can't do it, so they can control it. People with money can build 1 of these. Sure. Right? So we're trying to change that. But
1:17:08Speaker 1if you look at how they gauge it so let's say you have a product that
1:17:13Speaker 1has a
1:17:14Speaker 180 percent success rate to cure cancer, a cancer,
1:17:18Speaker 1but it costs $20,000,000.
1:17:21Speaker 1And then I wanna build 1 and it's 79 percent, but it costs $5, I won't be able to get my drug market. Sure. Because it's not as effective.
1:17:31Speaker 3Geez. You only let like 1 drug and the most effective.
1:17:36Speaker 1You have to prove that you're more effective. That's why Retrutide came out. So you won't see a bunch of other GLPs. They have to be differentiating or
1:17:44Speaker 1they have to be now you gotta lose 38
1:17:47Speaker 1of your body. Which is like, Jesus, how much weight are you gonna pull off these sheets?
1:17:52Speaker 1That's how it works. Crazy. So if they're gonna go after obesity with the GLP,
1:17:56Speaker 1you now have to make it, doesn't matter how much it costs. Gotta keep winning. You gotta keep winning. And then they'll force that dollar amount into the insurance companies and then the insurance company fail and we have brutal insurance. It's joke.
1:18:07Speaker 1Yeah. That's crazy. It's a joke. But they put the way they they put they structure that on paper to make it real, like, we're not gonna let shittier drugs come to market. Yeah. Well, no. No. I'll take the 79% for $5. Yeah, bro. Shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it works. Well,
1:18:21Speaker 1I think the world the way of the world is turning also. Yes. We are doing that. We are being healthier in general. Look at smoking 5 5 years ago Oh my god. To today. It's crazy. I almost wanna start smoking. Crazy thing. Kids were, like, not drinking as much. I can't believe. Yeah. Mean, I imagine when I was in college, we would smoke cigarettes in bars, packed bar. Oh, yeah. Right? Like, walking through the hallway. Imagine that today. It doesn't exist. Like, you go through a casino barely barely anybody smoked. No. It's true. They're like, hey. Can I get an ashtray? Like, where's the ashtray? What the hell is that? Have a tea. So that's changing and then, you know, I started smoking cigars and I'm like, I feel like I should do something. Do something bad. Yeah. I feel you. Yeah.
1:18:58Speaker 1Cigarettes are gross. Cigarettes are gross.
1:19:01Speaker 2Oh, man. We could talk to for
1:19:03Speaker 3you, We'll come down anytime. Anytime, bro. It's been a It's been a blast. Like, we've been talking for a good hour and
1:19:11Speaker 22 hours at least. Oh, yeah. I can do 6 hours. So we, but, yeah, we'll have you back. It's a pleasure and we're stoked to have you, man. And man, you are a wealth of knowledge and we would love to pick your brain anytime, bro. We
1:19:24Speaker 2like to follow success, man. So, know, mama didn't raise no dummy.
1:19:28Speaker 1Be here as much as you allow me to. Gotta come on mama too. Appreciate you, man. Not nearly as cool.
1:19:35Speaker 1Bet it will be. That's gonna
1:19:37Speaker 3a a little hold. I'm learning from iron
1:19:41Speaker 2sharpens iron baby. That's right. Well, it's been a pleasure, man. So that is a podcast for the day. We'll catch you next around on the Q and A next week. Alright. Later.