Ep 34 · 30:46
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0:11Speaker 0Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I am your host, JD Denham across the way. I'm a good buddy and my cohost,
0:22Speaker 0I, remember when I used to work in the mortgage industry, my thing, I'd every day I would say, is it Friday yet? Is it Friday yet? It's finally Friday, but when you do what we do, it doesn't matter if it's Friday. We work 7 days a week. So I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Right? Right. It doesn't. Although it kinda does because here's the thing, like, not everybody else is working on the weekend, so
1:02Speaker 0Dude, that's the good stuff, man. I can't wait till Jax gets into football. I gotta watch him in jujitsu, and it's like, man, I get more enjoyment out of watching my son than I got when I was playing, man. Yeah. There's something about watching
1:16Speaker 1It's cool now too. I think last year it was funny. Like, they'd lose a game and he would be like,
1:25Speaker 1But this year he cares more. Right? And he's like, kind of upset about it, which is good. Right? We want people to we want
1:34Speaker 1And he's coachable. Right? And so you catch with 2 hands. He's like, no, no, no. This is how I do it. Yeah.
1:46Speaker 1yeah, I don't know. Jiu Jitsu is awesome, man. I did Taekwondo when I was when I was young. Right? I got my black belt at 12 years old. Wow. And I think that that helped me
2:03Speaker 1Right? I had this giant angry Korean man yelling at me. I was 9 years old. And, like, if you mess up, it was like, go to the wood and do knuckle push ups on the wood. Wow.
2:12Speaker 0As your punishment. And I think, yeah, that did me well. Dude, I love it. That's the point. That's why we got this kid in there. We're gonna have Mason falling behind. We call Mason the little chunker,
2:22Speaker 0but we'll have him in there too, man. So I love that, man. That's good stuff. Good to know. I know that you did that. So that's why we started him off in jujitsu.
2:30Speaker 1We'll see where he goes. Plus a plus he just likes to break shit. Like, he needs to be kicking and punching things legally. You know? Hell yeah, man. We
2:39Speaker 0let our boys be boys, man. They wreck shit, but whatever, man. It's cool, dude. Be boys, baby. Yeah.
2:48Speaker 0we are excited today. Today, we're gonna what we're gonna do today, you know, we're constantly trying to fine tune this for everybody and kind of give people what they want and
2:57Speaker 0simplify it, you know, like just kind of be simple and just kind of keep it. I think a lot of people listening are newer to peptides, so I think we're kind of going off that in general. So we're going to talk about a peptide 1st, like a combination, which is going to be SLU-PP-three
3:15Speaker 0And then what we are going to do in the next segment is going to talk about a stack, but we're going to keep it simple. We're going to do basically focus on 3 instead of multiple,
3:24Speaker 0what we often do because we can always add extras in. But we're gonna focus on 3 and we're gonna talk about a cellular
3:34Speaker 0a lot of people are gonna enjoy that. So I'm gonna always, like always, I'm gonna kick it over to you. So tell us a little
4:18Speaker 1Okay? That is the way, the route of administration that somebody should be taking it. And
4:57Speaker 1It's still accomplishing the same goal. So it's not like you lose energy and or feel sluggish, right, because you're burning more calories, but you are burning more calories because the mitochondria is just basically revving its engine all day long. Yeah.
5:13Speaker 1still lots of studies going on on this and every other peptide because everything is just showing kind of amazing promise.
5:22Speaker 1So fat burner, it's gonna make it does not work on your central nervous system, so it does not make your heart beat faster like most
5:50Speaker 1So BAM-fifteen essentially works the same way, except for it doesn't work in the central nervous system. It doesn't produce that super overheating effect.
6:04Speaker 0muscle and strength. I don't think I've heard anybody talk about that. Why do you think that it goes so well with SLU-3P? Let's talk a little bit about SLU-3P as well. Why do you think that they run together so well? Well, they work in different processes upstream and downstream, and so they're not some people at 1st glance could think they're almost like counteracting each other, but that's not the case. Yeah, it seems like that, like when you kind of break it down, right? Right.
6:45Speaker 1It's also SLU-3s gonna make more efficient or not more efficient, but better, but stronger,
7:33Speaker 1changes in there. Now, again, there's no human trials on it, but it's showing a lot of promise for that.
7:43Speaker 0recommend it with a Retatrutide because that helps with fatty liver as well, right? Mean, those 2 would be perfect. Yes.
8:14Speaker 1endurance. It's going to be a great nutrient partitioner. So they call it an exercise mimetic.
8:20Speaker 1And it basically makes your body function as if you were just exercising as far as the nutrients
8:30Speaker 1you're working out, we're moving, and then therefore, that's all day long because it does this even when you're not working out. Our body tears fat off of where it is right now and throws it in the furnace to be burnt.
8:42Speaker 1And any fats, any carbs that turn that wanna turn into fat, it'll burn those 1st so they do not get stored on you as fat. Iron. That's awesome. Yeah. So you're
8:52Speaker 1and the fat that gets pulled off of you actually just gets thrown right into the furnace to be burnt instead of hanging around waiting to then just be restored on us. Yeah.
9:22Speaker 0to get the true benefits with it. But, yeah, a lot of people aren't talking about the BAM-fifteen put in there, but I think together they are a powerhouse in regards to burning that fat, which everybody wants.
9:58Speaker 1I mean, again, like, we open this up, like, yeah, there's a whole bunch of everything that you could totally, like I could name off pretty much every other fat burner. I don't think that there is anything that's gonna not go with them.
10:17Speaker 0every other fat burner? But really say about dosage? What would you say in regards to how much? Because they're different in regards to how much you can run a lot of SLU, but not so much on the beat band 15. So what would you recommend on that? Okay. Good. Yeah. Very good question. So, like, SLU-3C can be ran really high.
10:46Speaker 1have a hard time finding anything out there that's dosed that high. But there are people out there taking
10:54Speaker 1You're talking about SLU-. You're talking about SLU-3. I'm talking about SLU-1MQ only. Yes. SLU-3.5 can be ran very, very high, but I'd suggest maybe 500
11:15Speaker 1Bam, on the other hand, I would max out. I'd go between 35 mg and 70 mg a day, and I would cap it at 70 mg.
11:36Speaker 0So let's keep that over there at the band, but would you recommend if somebody is trying to kind of stretch the limits on the SLU-3P, would you recommend, like,
11:46Speaker 0certain bottle of the SLU-3two, how much it has, but would you say they can try to kind of push the limits with the SLU-3two with it? Yeah,
12:01Speaker 0don't know if I notice when I've taken much higher doses with the SLU. I mean, everybody's gonna be a little bit different, five:47.295 but as we say countless times, try it, see how your body responds.
12:16Speaker 0And I've done really high doses. I don't do so much anymore, but I have tried it just to answer that for people myself. I try everything before I even recommend it to people, but I didn't notice any different from a lower dose. I kind of now go save money, keep it lower.
12:31Speaker 1Yeah, but yeah. And yes, I would push limits. It's actually amazing. The higher dose is theoretically
12:46Speaker 1he was flexing and going, don't know what the hell happened. I don't know how I got so damn lean, but what do you guys put in this loop?
12:56Speaker 0Sure does, man. Well, right on, man. Anybody that you would recommend not take it, we'll close on that.
13:18Speaker 1But just in general, just don't take BAM too high. There is nobody really that I see anything besides
13:33Speaker 1right, bam, might not be the good answer because it's making that mitochondria Now, work really
14:19Speaker 1right? Bam! It's literally, like we said, electron uncoupling. Okay? It's literally making, pulling electrons out so they can leak across the border
14:42Speaker 1just having less energy, like working really hard, but no, I got no I'm not getting anywhere and I got low energy, right? It's not not like that. You're maintaining the same exact amount of energy. In fact, almost maybe strength increases,
14:57Speaker 1your body's working a little bit harder, and therefore, burn way more calories all day, every day. Yeah, I've literally read that
15:04Speaker 0I, you know, if you just kind of just ate the same amount of food and used the BAM in particular, you'll actually still lose weight because of that particular reason, so which is trippy.
15:15Speaker 1thing with SLU-1.1 Like, hey, you could 1 person could be eating the same amount of protein, working out the same, but if you're taking SLU-3two,
15:22Speaker 1the person on that is going to gain more muscle, right? Because of the nutrient partitioning, it's effectively, efficiently
15:32Speaker 1them being confused and not getting into the muscles, right, or getting blocked or wasted, put away with the waste and shuttle out the back.
15:54Speaker 0we haven't talked about enough is going to be the Epitalon. We're going to start with that. So again, kind of circling back around to what we talked about in the beginning,
16:02Speaker 0folks, is that we're going to kind of keep it simple instead of talking about multiple. We'll talk about 3 in particular, but we want to have not talked a lot about Epitalon, so let's dig into that a little bit. Talk about that. All
16:25Speaker 0frankly is starting, okay, let's go a new health phase in our life, right, he always, always, always starts them off with a round of Epitalon
16:45Speaker 0not a bad recommendation, right? Everybody who's starting something new Now, Epitalon should only be ran anyway, like twice a year. So I would do that and do that right at the beginning of maybe a major
17:15Speaker 0slow the shrinking of our telomeres. If you look under a microscope, you'll see telomeres of a young person versus an old person. Young persons are long. The older you get, the smaller they get. When they're gone, you die.
17:31Speaker 1theoretically, we get to live longer. Now we're not seeing people living to 200 years old. Well, I guess Epitalon hasn't been around for another extra hundred years, but so it's probably not working that well.
17:42Speaker 1It's not as simple as just, well, lengthen telomeres and you just get to live forever. But
18:00Speaker 1Okay. 1 thing that's really cool is it helps with circadian rhythms and helps balance all of your hormones, right? Your cortisol,
18:16Speaker 1helps really kind of balance those rhythms so they are kind of correct to where we should be
18:53Speaker 0Yeah, that's the whole point. Yeah, right. So we go into that and we talk about I'm gonna skip over the 2nd 1. Let's talk about that because we're talking about the rejuvenation of the cells. So let's talk about FOX-four. All right, well, that one's a pretty simple 1. So FOX-four,
19:07Speaker 1basically its job is to clear out old dead cells, right? And when our cells die off, which they're dying constantly,
19:22Speaker 1as efficiently as they possibly can. So its job is get rid of garbage. Get rid of the garbage so we got space to grow.
19:30Speaker 0Some of those sales are just kind of those sales are just kind of stay stagnant that aren't just they're just hiding, holding on, holding on. They're just gonna kind of wipe those clean. I
19:39Speaker 0like the FOX 4 and the 1 of the reasons I have not even taken it, which is 1 of the rare ones that I haven't, just because I do so much fasting.
19:45Speaker 0And you get kind of the same type of thing with autophagy. It's basically autophagy in a bottle, for lack of a better way to say it. It's just gonna wipe those
19:54Speaker 0dead cells or those dying cells. It's just gonna get rid of them and brand new ones, rejuvenated ones take their place. That's why it goes, we're stacking it so well with the Epitalon and FOX-four just because those 2 go great. Yep,
20:13Speaker 0last 1 in this, as we're gonna do the obvious, I think that should be almost in any stacks. I
21:06Speaker 1record somewhat recently, but it got shut down in United Kingdom, a doctor came out with a clinic essentially treating chronic alcoholics who had damaged
21:36Speaker 0I mean, NAD, you can just go on forever. I mean, we've talked about it on multiple podcasts, but I've added it in recently in my midday
21:44Speaker 0just because it does give you that cellular energy that we all seek instead of a coffee.
22:10Speaker 1which we all know is kind of the basis of everything. Right? Mitochondria is our powerhouse of ourselves,
22:18Speaker 1yeah, on a cellular genetic DNA level, right, it is repairing DNA and genes, and that's from
22:29Speaker 1proliferation of that ends in, Hey, after a while, right, looking younger and feeling younger.
23:02Speaker 0I love it, man. I think this would be good for anybody 40, which we focus a lot on just because we're 40 probably,
23:17Speaker 0age well. So this stack in particular should be affordable for anybody. That's why we kept it at 3. We
23:25Speaker 0can throw in a couple just for fun. Anything else for somebody that might be a little bit more seasoned
23:47Speaker 1Thymosin Alpha is great. Inflammation, right? It's the biggest reducer of inflammation, but it balances out your immune system, right, flooding you with like T regulatory cells.
23:56Speaker 1Not only increases immune system where it needs to be increased, but can tell the overactive immune system to chill out a little bit.
24:08Speaker 0Thymosin Alpha would go great with Epitalon because Epitalon helps with immunity as well. So that's a great call like the Thymosin Alpha. And then always like a GHKCU,
24:36Speaker 1I think she'll throw that on top as well. So I have a I have a friend recently that has told me that she's got fibromyalgia and has
24:47Speaker 1made a huge difference. Really? You know? So not saying that these I mean, look, dude, we are definitely not saying that this is what takes to cure things, but that is 1 person's story and- Correct.
25:05Speaker 0As we say all the time, we are science projects, man. You will not know unless you try it. So that's why we're starting with 3. So if you're looking to kinda do a reboot on yourself,
25:23Speaker 1I don't know. Yeah. NAD is kind of a be all is a do all. Right? Have Fits anywhere. As people say, like, Damn. I have so much more energy and mental clarity. I feel so much better. I can I personally
25:48Speaker 0like use logic. There's a reason why all the movie stars are on NAD, because it works.
25:54Speaker 0You know what I mean? They have the top notch advice, so they're all on NAD. Trust me. So there's a reason why. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely.
26:31Speaker 1I would if we're doing it see if you're doing it at home, let's I don't know. If you know what you're doing, okay, you can go into intravenous,
26:50Speaker 1And you can increase your dose by about 5 mg every injection. It's a form of niacin, so you might get
26:56Speaker 1a little bit tingly when you do it, Okay? And if you take huge jumps, you might go too much and get an overwhelming sense of tingle where you get your, like, paralyzed tingly for a couple seconds.
27:07Speaker 1That might scare a lot of people. So I'd say slowly work your way up so you don't feel that. It goes away.
27:14Speaker 1But do it I guess the goal is to just kind of do as much as you can, I'd say cycles of about 1000 mg. So the goal is to just, Hey, let's try to do 1000 mg in however long that takes you,
27:30Speaker 0forever. That's the only rule of thumb that we've been kind of going off of for quite some time. However, you get to that 1000 mg, everybody's a little bit different, but run it for 1000 mg and then take a month off, then run it again.
27:49Speaker 0any suggestions there? I'm kind of drawing a blank on that 1. I haven't ran myself. That's the 1 I have not run because I'm just I fast so much, man, so I haven't really, let me see, I can pull it up and give you an idea.
28:50Speaker 0those 2 are gonna be shorter, the FOXO-four than the Epitalon, and you can run the NAD for a while. Then what you do? Put in the Thymosin Alpha. Replace those 2 with other 2, Thymosin Alpha.
29:02Speaker 0You'll love Thymosin Alpha. TA-one is definitely 1 of my favorites. It's gonna boost that immune system for sure. So throw that in when we take those other 2 out and you'll be cruising.
29:23Speaker 1you should. But like these are really the stuff, internal, other than NAD, starting to be
29:31Speaker 1but there's a lot more going on in the inside, folks. And that's the more important part.
29:40Speaker 0Yeah, I mean, that's the thing that we say all the time is you can age well. Why the hell would you not, man? These peptides are just helping us age well, man. Skin,
29:57Speaker 0stuff, man. Well, good 1, man. Good breakdown in regards to that stuff. So anything before we go?
30:04Speaker 0I have nothing. I'll say, I mean, we did throw that out last podcast talking about Will and I starting a Discord type thing, and it was an overwhelming yes.
30:14Speaker 0My DMs were flooded with that. So we will start working on that so we can kind of have a little bit more interaction with people and answer some stuff and maybe be a little bit more direct and stuff. So we asked, you answered,
30:31Speaker 0And we appreciate you guys, man, and we will catch you on the next round. Have a good day. Peace out.