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0:38Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Across the way as always, my buddy and my cohost, William T. Hawk. What's up, dude? What's up, my man? Happy, Wednesday? Wednesday? Happy Wednesday.
0:53Speaker 1I know what day is it? It's Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Today's gonna be a good day because we have a guest as well.
1:00Speaker 1I've known him for a long time and I'm very blessed at that. I've known him for a good 30 years. I've known him before he had doctor in front of his name, believe it or not. So 30 years, that's how long I've known this guy. So Doctor. Scott Cawley will be joining the show today.
1:15Speaker 1He knows a lot about a lot. He knows about peptides. He knows a lot about blood work. And so we're gonna be bringing him on for his expertise.
1:23Speaker 1Today, we are gonna be talking about is Retatrutide.
1:25Speaker 1We'll start with Retatrutide,
1:27Speaker 1we're gonna bleed into,
1:29Speaker 1for lack of a better way to say it, blood work,
1:33Speaker 1right? So we're gonna bring in on that. So Doctor. Cauley, welcome.
1:37Speaker 0Thank you, good to be here. Thanks for having me.
1:39Speaker 1I'm excited to have you on here, man. So feel free to chime in on anything, man. We wanna hear your opinion because
1:47Speaker 1I'm not just saying this, you're a smart guy. So we're welcome to have you here. So
1:53Speaker 1let's talk about the probably pound for pound the best damn peptide there is, dude. Retatrutide
2:00Speaker 1GLP-three.
2:02Speaker 1Man, it is a damn powerhouse.
2:05Speaker 1Most people that try it, stay on it because it's amazing,
2:10Speaker 1and we can go on for days talking about it. So Will, tell us a little bit about
2:15Speaker 1GLP-three
2:16Speaker 1and start us off, man, tell us a little bit about it. Who should take it?
2:21Speaker 2Alright. I mean, I guess
2:23Speaker 2this comes from I mean, it's a law it's it's generation 3, I suppose, of Semaglutide,
2:29Speaker 2right, that started
2:31Speaker 2started this whole thing, which is GLP-one.
2:34Speaker 2You want everybody you may see these things as GLP-1s.
2:38Speaker 2Generation 2 is tirzepatide,
2:40Speaker 2GLP-2T,
2:43Speaker 2and then retentradide
2:45Speaker 2is GLP-3R.
2:47Speaker 2They all have the GLP-one
2:50Speaker 2receptor. Okay? So that is going to slow gastric emptying. It's really just gonna have a slow digestion,
2:57Speaker 2okay, which signals to your brain that you are full. You're gonna be fuller longer. Unfortunately, that has a bunch of side effects, including a ton of nausea.
3:06Speaker 2But people were losing a ton of weight. It doesn't really burn fat.
3:10Speaker 2Okay? The 1st 1. Somebody
3:12Speaker 2who doesn't burn fat,
3:14Speaker 2lose weight when you starve to death.
3:16Speaker 0Just don't eat
3:18Speaker 2any food and you lose weight. Now it did have kind of a bad rap. I've said this before because people are saying, Oh, well, I hear that it's just really bad and it makes you lose your hair. It makes your eyesight go out. Right?
3:29Speaker 2It does not. That's what malnutrition does, right? So
3:34Speaker 2then
3:35Speaker 2tirzepatide came next, which adds in the GIP receptor.
3:40Speaker 2Still a little bit of nausea, not And now it starts to burn fat. It's a little bit neuroprotective,
3:45Speaker 2but
3:46Speaker 2Retta is amazing.
3:49Speaker 2It is going to, yes, make you feel fuller longer. So it's basically like forcing you to eat small frequent meals. You cannot eat a lot.
3:58Speaker 2You'll get way too full. So it's forcing us to eat healthy, which is small frequent meals.
4:02Speaker 2It is burning your white fat and brown fat.
4:07Speaker 2It is really, really helping any, like, fatty liver,
4:11Speaker 2and it's going to help I love it actually most because
4:15Speaker 2it on these times where I'm too busy, I don't eat for, you know, 4 or 5 hours instead of being hangry and angry and grumpy,
4:22Speaker 2it is now shooting glucose into my brain and I still feel alert and happy even though I haven't eaten any food. Right?
4:31Speaker 2I think that, I mean, these clinical trials are showing, know, people, the average people are losing 24 pounds in 48 weeks. Now we see a lot faster than that, but it's-
4:41Speaker 2The evidence is
4:43Speaker 2I think tirzepatide's
4:44Speaker 2data was like 20 pounds.
4:46Speaker 2Retta's 24 pounds.
4:49Speaker 2Man, you feel good. Right? On the previous tube, there was some nausea and GI
4:55Speaker 2tract issues, but with Retta, is none of that.
4:59Speaker 2I guess there can be a little bit
5:02Speaker 2for ultra sensitive people, but there's a quick breakdown.
5:06Speaker 1Yeah. That was I
5:07Speaker 1mean, yeah, it's a lot. I mean, you know, I think that it just has gotten better and better and better like life does. Like, Semaglutide,
5:15Speaker 1if anybody's taking that that's listening,
5:17Speaker 1stop. There's just better compounds,
5:19Speaker 1even Tirzepatide's light years ahead of Semaglutide.
5:23Speaker 1It's just get off Semaglutide, there's better products out there. But
5:27Speaker 1I think where
5:28Speaker 1a lot of people get
5:31Speaker 1the people that haven't been willing to try it yet are the people that just
5:36Speaker 1have heard those types of things, meaning it's for fat loss or trying for people that are overweight,
5:42Speaker 1to lose weight. As myself, long before I started reading about it and digging into it,
5:48Speaker 1It's a powerhouse of a peptide. You have every walk of life people doing it. You have people trying to lose weight, you have gym rats, you have bodybuilders taking it. Why? Because it works in all different forms, man. You can do it by structuring your dosage
6:06Speaker 1correctly,
6:07Speaker 1what your objective is,
6:10Speaker 1my experience with it, just so whoever cares,
6:14Speaker 1once I started reading about it, I was blown away. I was like, This sounds freaking amazing.
6:18Speaker 1And I
6:20Speaker 1did it, I tried it, I wanted to see if I'm going to talk about it, I want to see how you feel, right? And I was blown away by it. I mean, I'm pretty lean as it is, but man, my skin got so
6:31Speaker 1lean and just so tight within like a week, my mind was blown.
6:36Speaker 1It is just
6:37Speaker 0insane, man. It is such a powerhouse of a peptide. What do you think, Doctor. Scott? I know you know a lot about Retatrutide or GLP-three as well. What's your opinion on it? Yeah, was waiting to chime in here. So, on the clinical side, I wanna talk about that, what I'm seeing on blood work, because I always go to the blood work because you know the proof's in the pudding right there. If you're doing something bad, you're doing something good, you want to look at, you know, prior blood tests versus new blood testing comparisons.
7:04Speaker 0And
7:05Speaker 0man, I was telling you this Retatrutide
7:07Speaker 0and
7:08Speaker 0even Tirzepatide
7:09Speaker 0seemed
7:10Speaker 0to be a pretty decent product,
7:13Speaker 0but I'm seeing some amazing
7:15Speaker 0quick
7:17Speaker 0regression in fatty liver and blood sugar issues. I mean, that's what it was produced for with diabetics, right? I mean, that's what the Ozempic was for, right? The GLP-one that was kind of a disaster. I think there was a lot of sides with that. People lose a lot of muscle mass. I know a lot of people were losing weight, but they were flabby. And so, you know, not
7:33Speaker 0the best 1, obviously they're getting better and better at this. I think they really refine this with Retrutide because
7:39Speaker 0I personally,
7:40Speaker 0again, I got on it about a month ago and again, JD took me a couple of weeks for me to feel the effects.
7:49Speaker 0Had a little bit of issues at the very beginning, but man, it's just sometimes you just got to kind of ride that out. And yeah, I got my blood work back and it's amazing. I mean, how much better things look on. And then with my patients, I mean, I do a lot of, you know, I've worked with patients for years and years and years who will be working on blood sugar issues and fatty livers and things like that. And this thing really,
8:09Speaker 0peptide
8:11Speaker 0really has kicked that in gear to where
8:14Speaker 0unfortunately
8:15Speaker 0not having
8:17Speaker 0to take medications for triglycerides,
8:19Speaker 0it's bringing down the lipids.
8:20Speaker 0And again, HbA1c levels dropping drastically.
8:24Speaker 0So
8:25Speaker 0great product, man. I think it's revolutionizing
8:29Speaker 0this whole market and it's gonna revolutionize the
8:33Speaker 0diabetic
8:34Speaker 0and fatty liver
8:35Speaker 0issues that we're seeing out there that so rampant right now in our country. Mean, 1 out of 3 people in this country right now are pre diabetic,
8:43Speaker 0which is still
8:44Speaker 0destructive to our bodies. People think because they're pre diabetic they're in the safe zone. No, you you got an HbA1c
8:51Speaker 0of 5.7,
8:52Speaker 0a 6.3, you're damaging tissue, you're damaging cells, you're inflaming your body at that level. So getting on something like this, and also of course, you gotta work dieting there too. Of course, we know how important diet is and some supplementation, but you throw that all together and, it's great to see people
9:08Speaker 0getting healthy on top of that, this is really big you guys.
9:12Speaker 0A lot of people come to me who want to get healthy, they want to lose weight, right?
9:16Speaker 0And
9:18Speaker 0it's not easy just to say, hey, here's some supplementation and here's a diet. We're gonna radically change your diet, which you've been used to that standard American diet all your life.
9:28Speaker 0It's sometimes it's not sugar.
9:31Speaker 0Taking the sugar out, right? Taking the carbs out initially, not not long term, but taking it out initially.
9:37Speaker 0When you put Retrutide in the picture,
9:40Speaker 0they get immediate result. They start to their appetite
9:44Speaker 0starts to drop. It's almost like a catapult
9:47Speaker 0into
9:48Speaker 0a real good program to change their lifestyle.
9:51Speaker 0People have such a hard time trying to initially change their lifestyle. They might last a week, maybe a month,
9:58Speaker 0and then guess what, man? They they can't do it. They fall off the wagon, you know, they come back into me with a tail between their legs, you know, professing how they're going to stay on what I asked them to do. Retrutide has made a huge significant difference in keeping that going where they're motivated. I get to tell them that, hey, when you do eat, let's eat some really high nutrient packed foods because you are cutting down your amount of food.
10:23Speaker 0So don't like cut it down and eat crap. You gotta cut it down and eat the really good stuff. So on top of that, you're getting the weight loss, getting the fatty liver, getting the blood sugar down, and then you're giving people a whole bunch of really nutrient
10:35Speaker 0dense foods that starts helping so many other things in their body. The gut, the brain, the thyroid, all these things start to start to work better, it's and amazing to see how much better these people could feel so much faster.
10:48Speaker 1I think 1
10:49Speaker 1of the problems that humans in general have,
10:53Speaker 1specifically
10:54Speaker 1people like Americans,
10:56Speaker 1our diets are just horrible.
10:58Speaker 1Will, you'll probably agree with this too, which is training people and you too, Scott, I know you do personal training.
11:03Speaker 1They don't even know what healthy is. Like, I'll say, what's healthy? You know, I want to know like their idea of what they think is healthy. And like, you're blown away by the responses that you get. They truly have no idea. So if we sit there for a 2nd and those are the people that we're working with, we're trying to help, right? They don't know how to eat healthy. They don't know how healthy, what healthy is, right?
11:25Speaker 1And they want instant gratification.
11:27Speaker 1So when you go to the gym and are your testosterone super low and you're thinking you're eating healthy, but you're not eating healthy, you go to the gym even for 2 weeks, you're making yourself go, but you see no results, you give up. Why? Because you're not seeing results. Why the hell am I going to the gym, right? The cool thing about Retatrutide
11:46Speaker 1is it could be the little spark
11:49Speaker 1that they see and quick results like
11:51Speaker 0that motivates you, I want more. Yep. Well, that's exactly what I was saying, JD. It's a good motivational
11:57Speaker 0tool,
11:59Speaker 0definitely.
11:59Speaker 0Get that spark to get these people in the right direction to remember to make a lifestyle change. This isn't a diet, this is a lifestyle. You
12:07Speaker 0gotta think
12:09Speaker 0not just today, not just for a month, not just for a year, this is for the rest of your life, and you know, yeah, there's things you could do, you know, over time, you get healthy 1st, you know, get your body healthy 1st, and then you can start talking about maybe bringing in something that you like, Oh man, I miss pizza. Okay, well, that's something that you might go to do 1 day again, not on a continual basis, but to treat yourself here and there, and you can get away with it. Yeah.
12:31Speaker 0Absolutely.
12:32Speaker 2Yeah. I remember, JD JD, when we talked about this 1st when I was experimenting with it, and I said, you know, hey, man. You should talk about this. I know that your discipline is kinda off the charts, but, dude, like, 99%
12:44Speaker 2of people aren't. Right? And so people sometimes need a little crutch, a little help at the beginning, man. Yeah.
12:51Speaker 2Most do. This is what it most most people do, and that's okay. And for real, yeah, it just forces
12:58Speaker 2portion control and good eating habits. And that kick starts everything. I mean, psychologically, yeah, hell yeah, that's motivating. Then you come back for more and more and more and more.
13:07Speaker 1Think about it.
13:08Speaker 1Have such a unique experience to be able to see a lot of people that
13:12Speaker 1start it, you know, and like a lot of people are skeptical,
13:15Speaker 1their brother's friend told them this and all that other stupid stuff. Then they try it and then literally 2 weeks later, they're like, Woah, dude, like, dude, like, Woah, dude, I've lost like 9 pounds, you know, and like, they're so excited. And you see this little light bulb go on and
13:32Speaker 1it's freaking amazing, man. And especially in today's world where we want instant gratification,
13:37Speaker 1I want it fixed now.
13:39Speaker 1This is 1 compound that literally works almost
13:43Speaker 1that fast.
13:45Speaker 2It does. It does. I will say it. So maybe, and Doctor,
13:48Speaker 2you can point to this. It's a little bit slower acting.
13:52Speaker 2The onset of actual results is a bit slower acting than say, know, Tirzepatide or Semaglutide.
14:00Speaker 2You found that. I find people take it, you know, a couple weeks and it really hits its stride.
14:06Speaker 0Do you find that now? Muscle wasting in this too, sometimes you gotta
14:11Speaker 0expect that it is gonna sometimes
14:14Speaker 0cause
14:15Speaker 0a little bit of muscle tissue breakdown. I'm feeling like the Retatrutide definitely has been
14:21Speaker 0much less than that, especially if
14:24Speaker 0you're in the gym. Obviously, you know, you want to be working out to get the best effect with this. And then of course, you know, for the, you know, for some of the gentlemen out there, I know I'm not just, I'm not just speaking to men, speaking to women too, and there's women on TRT too, you know, sometimes that testosterone
14:39Speaker 0can really be a good help in this if that's needed, if the patient needs it or they can use it, you know, you're getting up in their 40s.
14:47Speaker 0Yeah, you know, those levels decline. So can you combat some of that, that unwanted
14:52Speaker 0muscle loss? Yeah, but again, it's very minimal of what I'm seeing with ARA-2A compared to, you know, the previous 2 that
15:00Speaker 0are probably going to be scooted out here in near future. Yeah. It seems like everybody's figuring that out and I know, I know even Eli Lilly,
15:07Speaker 0they
15:08Speaker 0are stamping
15:09Speaker 0this and putting it out in May, they're going to have their own brand of Retatrutide.
15:14Speaker 2So, you know, be ready. It's gonna hit the market hard. Yeah, I bet it is. And everybody will be doing it. And yeah, you're right. Like the bigger
15:21Speaker 2differences between those other 2, they did cause nausea, right? And that is not the intended effect of this drug. Right?
15:29Speaker 2People are like, Oh, well, when I start taking Retina, I have a little appetite. That's good. The actual intended effect was not to take away your appetite completely. That's just what the nausea side effects did. Right? Yeah. This, I mean,
15:41Speaker 2that
15:42Speaker 2was not the drug, right? But what's beautiful this time, okay, cool. Retta, now you can eat. You can eat protein and guess what? That helps- Enjoy it. Your dang muscle and you enjoy it. This
15:53Speaker 2is why he said, right, people are losing weight, but they're just losing
15:56Speaker 2indiscriminately. Right? And they're now they're flabby and they've lost 20 pounds and and 10 of it's muscle.
16:01Speaker 2With Retatrut, you actually now can intake some protein and keep a lot of your muscle,
16:06Speaker 2and actually look good now with the weight loss going. So yeah, you need you should be able to eat. You just not a lot
16:15Speaker 2at 1 time. Know, eat it's good. We as Americans,
16:20Speaker 0especially in America, we're the worst.
16:22Speaker 0We eat so much. We overeat and it's not, I mean how necessary,
16:28Speaker 0I mean we could really realistically, we can all cut down our portion size in 0.5
16:33Speaker 0from what the standard American diet feeds us and still get every single nutrient that we need as long as we're eating healthy foods, right? I'm not going to get that off of french fries, but you know, like I'm just saying like the necessity,
16:45Speaker 0what the body needs, we are so overdoing it, We're putting so much extra energy into our body and it's being stored as what?
16:54Speaker 0Yep, fat. Fat. It's going in our fat, it's going in our liver causing fatty liver, causing blood sugar issues, causing gut issues. I mean, it's just the list goes on and on. So the amount of food, you know, decreases. It's more realistic for I think how what
17:07Speaker 0God intended for our bodies to really have, you know what I mean? We're definitely,
17:11Speaker 0you know, there's
17:12Speaker 0the sin of gluttony, right?
17:14Speaker 0We all kind of have been, you know, subjected to that downfall,
17:18Speaker 0I think especially in America, you know, a lot of gluttony
17:22Speaker 0going on and that is gonna feed obviously into these health issues that we're seeing.
17:27Speaker 2Yeah, I always tell my, like, my clients like, look dude, you should never feel full.
17:31Speaker 2There's no need. You should eat till you're satiated.
17:34Speaker 2Right?
17:35Speaker 2That's it. That's it. I know you wanna eat the other 0.5 of that thing just because you're programmed to, right, just because you're used to it. But, like, it's a necessity, it's completely unnecessary and in fact, it's
17:46Speaker 2not good for you. So we should never be starving. Right? We should never be really, really, really hungry
17:52Speaker 2unless you're planning and doing a fast. Right? But like, just kind of satiated is where we should
17:58Speaker 0stay at and you'll be unhealthy with balance. Right that man, right on with that. Trying to train your body to not be
18:05Speaker 0stuffed because like you said, we're so almost, we're like programmed
18:09Speaker 0into eating until our bellies almost wanna pop, and then we feel like, we got our money's worth.
18:15Speaker 0Walk away from the table, man. It's not enough. It's about saying, okay, Oh, no need, I took him down.
18:20Speaker 2Yeah,
18:22Speaker 1you're right. It's about just getting what we know we need, get our portion in. This is what we need, this is the- Well, look at it like this, look at it like this. I mean, it's we all know this. I mean, let me list kind of this
18:32Speaker 1state the obvious. When you walk into the grocery store,
18:36Speaker 1look at how it's presented, all these rad colors, Doritos are this color, Trix are this color, it's all shit food, but it looks beautiful. You know what I mean? And like somebody that has an actual problem, like not knocking those people, I was an ex heroin addict, like not knocking anybody. My problem is not food, but people have problems with food, right? I don't walk into a heroin store.
18:55Speaker 1Walk into these stores
18:57Speaker 1all the time and like, if they don't have
19:01Speaker 1this is gonna give them a barrier. This is the type of stuff, thank God, these are out there because some people just you know, we're pretty disciplined. I've known you both for a long time and the reason we all got together because we love lifting weights, we love talking about this stuff, it comes easy to us, we're blessed, right? Whatever. Not everybody's like that. They have no clue about nutrition. There's a lot of people that have never even walked into a damn gym, right? And now they're overweight,
19:25Speaker 1but the best part of this is that
19:27Speaker 1they're seeking something different. I mean, we all talk to them in different forms, you you too, Doctor. Scott,
19:34Speaker 1we talk to them all the time and like, thank God, you know,
19:37Speaker 1they're trying to step away from some Western medicine that's
19:41Speaker 1jacking up their guts.
19:43Speaker 1The doctor spends no time with them. I mean, again, for those people, Doctor. Scott came into my office recently and did my blood work and sat down with me, not because he's my friend and literally thoroughly went through it for a good, what, hour and 0.5, Scott? We went through it for so long
19:59Speaker 1and
20:00Speaker 1we talked about that stuff, the gut, the things like that. It's time that people educate themselves
20:06Speaker 1so that they can have these barriers to stop them from some of this crap food, western medicine jacking up their gut,
20:14Speaker 1all that. You know what I mean? Let me ask you this. In your opinion,
20:18Speaker 1with your experience with like the Retrutide compared to the Tirzepatide,
20:23Speaker 1or in just in general, what are some of the problems
20:26Speaker 1that people like are too scared to even start it? Low
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20:57Speaker 0Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. Just because they've heard things about like teeth falling out and like hair being brittle and all that stuff, is that, do you hear those same things? Well, there's, you know, there's, you're
21:09Speaker 0seeing like people like, even on like Instagram,
21:12Speaker 0social media saying, don't take this, you're gonna get cancer. Don't take this, you're gonna get pancreatitis.
21:17Speaker 0Don't you yada yada yada, it's gonna cause this and that and that. So again, I think that
21:23Speaker 0there are some people out there, you might wanna be careful with, you know, obviously jumping on anything, but personally
21:30Speaker 0I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen any
21:33Speaker 0claims come about. My caution is
21:37Speaker 0for somewhat to do any type of a GLP
21:40Speaker 0product
21:41Speaker 0is if you have a disaster
21:44Speaker 0of a gut where you're having severe gut issues, especially constipation,
21:49Speaker 0which could be from many, many problems, right? There's many things that could cause, you know, chronic constipation.
21:56Speaker 0That might be something that you gotta be careful with because it may slow things down more and
22:01Speaker 0cause some issues.
22:03Speaker 0When I have patients who do experience any type of side effect from Retrutide,
22:07Speaker 0it's usually a gut side effect, it might be that I'm a little backed up, well guess what we do, We put you on a GLP fiber product and I put you on some magnesium,
22:16Speaker 0make sure that the diet's right, make sure we get those bowels moving. That's very important to make sure your bowels are moving. You wanna make sure you're having a bowel movement every day, you know, if you don't have 1 once a day, that's not good. So that's kind of my red flag or my barrier with prescribing or putting people
22:33Speaker 0on or recommending retrutide
22:35Speaker 0would be to really kind of get a good idea of their gut health.
22:39Speaker 0So, and again, most people do well with it. I've had maybe
22:44Speaker 0a couple patients that I can think of off the top of my head who struggled a little bit, who we had to, you know, make few
22:51Speaker 0changes in their diet and their supplementation
22:53Speaker 0to make sure that they're doing it. I think 1 of the,
22:57Speaker 1some of the issues that at least I've run across, Will, I'm gonna ask your opinion on this too because I know we talk to different people, but the
23:03Speaker 1skin thing, it's fairly common. Like there's people that like how their skin gets kind of rash and like they can't, their shirts
23:10Speaker 1like rub. I've never felt that, you know, but it's fairly common to where they
23:15Speaker 1have you run across that to where their skin kind of gets a little itchy and whatnot?
23:19Speaker 0So I
23:21Speaker 2remember you told me, I have, I was like, I've never even heard that from anybody. You haven't heard it, go ahead. Yeah,
23:26Speaker 0was gonna say I had that. So I had the sunburn effect, so it was interesting.
23:31Speaker 0Yeah, almost felt like, well, what is this? Am I getting a flu or something like that? But it was just a very weird, like, it was more in my thighs down my legs. It was just more of a felt like a sensitivity, almost like a hypersensitivity
23:44Speaker 0of my skin. So I feel like if anything cold or anything hot touch, it was very sensitive.
23:49Speaker 0Again, that was initially that's gone. Yeah, runs the scores quick. 1st 10 days, it was interesting. Yeah. And I've really only experienced
23:56Speaker 02 other patients that had what I had. So I'm kind of glad I got that because I love to be able to experience what the patient might be feeling so that they do have a funny side effect. Can say, you know what? I know exactly what you're going through because I had that, but it's
24:11Speaker 0very rare that I see that, but again, I was 1 of those people who did experience that.
24:17Speaker 2I take that back. My girlfriend's sister
24:20Speaker 2actually had that happen to her with Tirzepatide.
24:25Speaker 0I wonder if it's- The theory behind that is I'm wondering like when you're burning fat, you're releasing milk. Remember,
24:32Speaker 0fats hold your toxins,
24:33Speaker 0right? That's where our toxins go. We are constantly being bombarded by toxins every day, it's inevitable.
24:40Speaker 0When you store toxins in your body, I mean, where's this store, you know, the liver, the fat cells? So if you're burning fat and you're actually, you know, releasing, you know, some fat, you're gonna be releasing some of those toxins into your body.
24:54Speaker 0Is that potentially the issue why it's like a detox kind of effects? I don't know. It makes sense because when people detox, that's a common, I do a lot of detoxifications in my clinic here with all kinds of different toxins. And you know, 1 of the symptoms they get is that, they'll feel funny skin sensations. They might feel that sunburn feeling, they might feel some achiness in their joints, something like that. So, you know, gotta make sure you're purging those toxins out of your body. Sometimes using binders and things like that are gonna be important. Make sure that you're not recirculating toxins. That's a whole another topic though. TB- Let's get into blood work. Let's get into it. Let's hear from- I mean- Yeah,
25:29Speaker 1yeah, I think that, I mean, we'll kind of segue into that. So, I mean, we could go on and on about Retrutide forever. I mean, Will and I talk about it all the time anyway, anybody that listens to the podcast, we love it and there you go, pound for pound best peptide out there in my opinion. But blood work. So, Doctor. Scott, tell
25:47Speaker 1us a little bit about,
25:49Speaker 1just be so vague,
25:50Speaker 1like who
25:52Speaker 1should get blood work? I mean, is it 20 year olds? Is it 40 year olds? Obviously,
25:58Speaker 1you
25:59Speaker 1you are so thorough when you go through the blood work. Who should be running their blood work?
26:04Speaker 1And how often? Is it everybody? Is it older people like us like us in our forties? Who would you say should run it on a regular basis?
26:13Speaker 0Kind of a
26:16Speaker 0big question because it kind of depends, you know, it depends, you know, 20 year olds? Yeah, sure, why not? Why wouldn't you wanna see kind of where you're at? I run a lot of blood work on 20 year olds because they kind of wanna know where they're at in their health. You know, by the time you hit 20 with the standard American diet, you're already probably heading down the chronic illness wagon here. So it's good, kind of good to see kind of where somebody's at in their 20s. It's not something that you would do year, you know, on a 20 year old. You start getting up in your 30s and 40s, yeah, I mean, think that
26:46Speaker 0really taking a good look at a real blood panel, of course, you know, not, something that we're seeing from
26:52Speaker 0unfortunately insurance,
26:54Speaker 1you know, insurance is kind of limiting to a lot of people out there. They know that you gotta kind of step outside the insurance model these days to really get a good look. We'll talk about that. I don't wanna get off that point real quick. Let's talk about that. Let's not go away from that. So like, meaning what? So like just a typical, if you go into a typical MD, they're gonna run a very,
27:12Speaker 1for lack of a better way to say it, 0.5 assed blood panel.
27:15Speaker 1What do you recommend in regards to,
27:18Speaker 1for most people, the type of panels that, I mean, lot of doctors don't even run free testosterone.
27:24Speaker 1They're just so,
27:25Speaker 1know, blah.
27:26Speaker 1So what would you recommend to somebody listening to this? Like what type of panel should they run?
27:33Speaker 0So
27:34Speaker 0what I'm seeing from, you know, insurance doctors, again, very limited. Remember,
27:39Speaker 0I'm a holistic doctor, so we get going up down the holistic, you know, pathway here, you really get to,
27:46Speaker 0the sky's the limit to what I can run. So,
27:50Speaker 0and unfortunately you're outside the insurance model.
27:52Speaker 0But what I've seen, I've just seen these really small panels that is not giving any information about where the patient's at with their health.
27:59Speaker 0You really need to look at
28:01Speaker 0the holistic approach.
28:03Speaker 0You gotta look at a lot of these inflammatory markers. You gotta look at a deeper look into cholesterol,
28:09Speaker 0that sake. You know, total LDL and HDL don't tell you nothing.
28:13Speaker 0You gotta look at the immune markers and really see, you know, the immune system is such an important system in the body, probably the most important system in the body because it's gonna dictate really chronic illness, which is rampant in this country right now. I
28:26Speaker 0think they say 75 percent of the country has a chronic condition.
28:30Speaker 0What I heard lately, I also heard that cancer is up 80 percent over the past 10 years. It's like,
28:36Speaker 0why is that? You know why that is? Because nobody knows what's going on with their body. Nobody knows, no one's looking, nobody's checking. You're going to your insurance doctor, you're getting this much, right? And again, I'm not doubting or I'm not trying to come down on all insurance doctors. I do see
28:53Speaker 0some insurance doctors that do go and put the extra effort in and give these, you know, give a decent panel to a patient.
28:59Speaker 0So I just think that there's a limit, they're limited because of the insurance model. So, you know, really kind of taking a good look at
29:07Speaker 0where is your body at and where is it heading?
29:10Speaker 0You can really get a good idea on a really good comprehensive blood test.
29:15Speaker 0Sometimes that can go in further down and I think I'm a big gut guy, so, you know, going further down the rabbit hole into stool testing and looking at gut health, because I firmly believe that most illness stems from the gut. But again, you gotta look at the blood. You gotta look at how toxic you are. You gotta look at how much inflammation you're having, how much, how much oxidative
29:36Speaker 0stress is at the body, right? Look at a real thyroid panel. It's not just 2 or 3 markers, it's 10, it's 10 markers. But really look at the all the patterns of potential thyroid dysfunction, right? You wanna look at those inflammatory markers.
29:50Speaker 0None of them are being ran. I don't see any of them being ran on a standard insurance panel.
29:56Speaker 1Know, it Was might get lack of knowledge from a doctor, like in your opinion and not to knock on doctors, that's not the point of this question, but is it lack of a doctor's knowledge to ask for that? Because if you're gonna be a doctor that runs a blood panel and sees somebody's cholesterol, which you just said, doesn't really tell you much. There's all these other things that you need to know, but they're putting people on statin drugs
30:18Speaker 1from a little cheesy,
30:20Speaker 1panel, blood panel. That's a problem.
30:24Speaker 0Well, you know, me and CJ, we know we've done a talk on,
30:27Speaker 0cholesterol and before in the past here, and we kind of discussed how,
30:32Speaker 0my opinion that the cholesterol lowering
30:35Speaker 0is probably 1 of the biggest pharmaceutical
30:38Speaker 0scams in my opinion,
30:40Speaker 0because we know now how important cholesterol really is for the body. And remember high cholesterol, low cholesterol, in my opinion, for
30:48Speaker 0the most part, because you know, there's so many things that cholesterol in our brains is 20% cholesterol.
30:54Speaker 0You know, every,
30:55Speaker 0the all, every up 30,000,000,000,000 cells in our body, they're all dependent. The outer portion of that cell is partially cholesterol, right? Or hormones. What are they made of? They're made of cholesterol, right? Cholesterol is actually actually given cancer protective.
31:07Speaker 0We know now. So, you know,
31:10Speaker 0the question is, you have high cholesterol.
31:13Speaker 0Fine, but is it it is it a threat? It can be a threat. You've got to look more at the particles of the particle size and the particle number, the oxidation of the LDL.
31:25Speaker 0You really see is that cholesterol a threat? Is it almost as high? Is your ferritin enough? Is your ESR? If you're inflamed, you have high cholesterol, that can be a problem,
31:35Speaker 0right? So again, you know, going back to do doctors not know, I mean, I'm sure they know, we would,
31:41Speaker 0know, med school, med school, you know, we learn this stuff, go back to the basics. I mean, it's not
31:47Speaker 0new, we just know that a lot these doctors, you know, if there's not a drug to fix it, there's no need for them to run it.
31:54Speaker 2Yeah,
31:55Speaker 2Yeah, that's too bad. That's too damn bad.
31:59Speaker 0Take Hashimoto's, let's take Hashimoto's. That's 1 of Hashimoto's right now, autoimmune I'm thyroid disorder,
32:05Speaker 0seeing so much of that right now, you know, and
32:08Speaker 0there is no drug for Hashimoto's.
32:11Speaker 0So why would they run the autoantibodies
32:14Speaker 0to check if a patient has it?
32:16Speaker 0Hashimoto's
32:17Speaker 0is an immune problem, it's not a thyroid problem.
32:20Speaker 0So what do they do? They treat the thyroid.
32:23Speaker 0That's why people don't get anywhere
32:25Speaker 0who have Hashimoto's with thyroid medications,
32:28Speaker 0because you're treating the wrong thing. You're treating the thyroid, not the immune system.
32:33Speaker 0And where's the immune system? It's in the gut.
32:35Speaker 1In the gut.
32:37Speaker 1But again, so you're saying they're treating it wrong. So again, is it lack of knowledge?
32:42Speaker 1Help me get to the jugular of that.
32:45Speaker 1Why are they doing that?
32:48Speaker 1Is it lack of knowledge? Why are they treating that incorrectly if they know? That's what I'm saying. Did they just not know that it is the gut? I guess that's kind of a
32:58Speaker 1question that I probably know that you're gonna answer. I mean, you know me and having some gut issues for a very long time. When I went into a GI doctor and told him, I thought I had leaky gut, he looked at me like I was a dinosaur.
33:10Speaker 1He's like, Leaky gut? Where did you get that? That doesn't exist. I'm like, Well, I kind of read a lot about it, so I think I got it.
33:17Speaker 1Now it's widely
33:19Speaker 0known, you know what I mean? But this was a GI. Well, just say, that's funny you say that, JD, guess what they all know now because there's a medication now that just came up with leaky gut. Guess what? Now they know about leaky gut. This has been talked about for a really long time and they just goof with it. It is such
33:33Speaker 0exactly the point is, no, they don't know. They don't know obviously because if they knew they wouldn't have foo fooed you away like that. We know by there's research done on everything now that how that works, that leaky gut comes about, what causes leaky gut, what actually happens. You're opening up that gut lumen, things that are supposed to go in the toilet are going into your bloodstream. What is that doing? It's called a parasite. Body sees Your it as a
33:57Speaker 0immune system responds, your immune system responds, you're gonna form things that are gonna cause issues, you can start attacking on tissues, you're gonna get autoimmunity,
34:04Speaker 0you're gonna get skin issues,
34:06Speaker 0you're gonna have joint problems,
34:07Speaker 0you're gonna have, your hair is gonna fall out. I mean, there's all kinds of things that would come about because of leaky gut. So, you know, definitely something,
34:14Speaker 0I like to test on people is to see the degree of leaky gut, And, that's very important. It's very important to see, to make sure that, you know, establish whether a patient
34:23Speaker 0has that or not, and it's kind of a spectrum thing, you know? How do you do that? How do you test for that? How do you test for that in particular? 2 There's thousand ways to do it, you know, through stool testing is kind of an indirect way. There's a market called zonulin. Zonulin is a protein that holds the tight junctions of your gut lining together. When you see a lot of zonulin in the stool, you know that the tight junctions are being torn apart because of inflammation
34:49Speaker 0in the gut,
34:50Speaker 0which could be from a lot of things. It could be from stress,
34:52Speaker 0right? Stress, it could be from dysbiosis where you have a lot of different, you know, bad bacteria in the gut, food sensitivities,
34:59Speaker 0alcohol,
35:00Speaker 2drugs,
35:01Speaker 0those all feed into what's called leaky gut.
35:05Speaker 2But yeah, the zonulin is 1 way to look at it. There's blood tests you can look at it also. All right, question for you. So let's say I'm a person who wants to take peptides and a lot of these peptides are
35:16Speaker 2dealing with
35:17Speaker 2they're helping our mitochondria
35:20Speaker 2or cells, right? Cell rejuvenation,
35:22Speaker 2clearing out old dead cells to make room for new cells,
35:27Speaker 2giving us more power into our mitochondria.
35:30Speaker 2MOTS-1C is helping,
35:33Speaker 2yes, power the mitochondria. SS-thirty 1 is helping the integrity of the cell wall. NAD is helping with regeneration.
35:40Speaker 2How?
35:42Speaker 2Let's say I wanna go buy peptides, but maybe, I don't know if I do have degrading cells and am I just gonna waste my money buying these peptides if I don't have a deficiency?
35:52Speaker 2How would
35:53Speaker 2can we test?
35:55Speaker 2Is there some markers that can help a person out and says, Hey, yeah, you probably should take some of these things because this is what I'm saying. Great question. How does somebody
36:02Speaker 2do that if they want to look at that? I think you always
36:07Speaker 0wanna optimize,
36:09Speaker 0right? So doing
36:10Speaker 0peptides
36:11Speaker 0is gonna optimize
36:13Speaker 0that mitochondrial
36:14Speaker 0function, right? That's why we take them to optimize,
36:17Speaker 0but you gotta look at the other things also, would cause mitochondrial
36:21Speaker 0dysfunction,
36:22Speaker 0right? You got to make sure, do I have anemia?
36:25Speaker 0Do I have blood sugar issues?
36:27Speaker 0Do I have thyroid issues? Am I dehydrated?
36:30Speaker 0Just those big macro things right there are gonna cause mitochondrial
36:34Speaker 0dysfunction.
36:35Speaker 0Am I absorbing my nutrients? Am I breaking them down well? Do I have absorption problems? Am I getting the foods in my body, the vitamins, the minerals, the antioxidants
36:43Speaker 0necessary
36:45Speaker 0for mitochondrial
36:46Speaker 0function to be able to produce that ATP, which is the bottom line. We want to produce energy. Mitochondria
36:52Speaker 0produces energy.
36:54Speaker 0Do I have oxidative stress? I keep on going back to that word because it's so important. Oxidative stress destroys
37:00Speaker 0that mitochondrial
37:01Speaker 0function and ATP production.
37:03Speaker 0So yeah, you want to look at blood testing to see
37:07Speaker 0what can I do to enhance it on my end, peptides to double enhance that function? So you want to kind of work it on a holistic approach, There we go, holistic again, right? Looking at it all of it and working all angles of that to make sure you have the best mitochondrial function you can. Decreasing inflammation,
37:25Speaker 0getting those vitamins, minerals, nutrients, any oxygen you need. Make sure you're hydrated. Make sure you're able to bring water into the cell. That's important. A lot of people, I see dehydration all over their blood since they said, Doctor. Scott, I drink 5 gallons of water a day. I said, yeah, the water is not driving into the cell because you have inflammation. Inflammation will
37:46Speaker 0keep that water out, right? Number 2, glucose. How is your blood sugar doing? Are you getting that glucose? Is insulin working well, bringing that glucose into the cell? Because you gotta have glucose for mitochondrial function to make it, right? You gotta have water. Hey, are you anemic? There's a lot of people who have B12 iron deficiency,
38:03Speaker 0methylfolate
38:04Speaker 0anemias,
38:05Speaker 1very common.
38:07Speaker 0How is your blood
38:09Speaker 0doing so that you're getting red blood cells and getting oxygen into the cell, right? You gotta have oxygen.
38:16Speaker 0And lastly, gotta have thyroid hormone, gotta have a healthy thyroid metabolism.
38:20Speaker 0You gotta see what does my free
38:22Speaker 0T3 look like. Free T3 is the bottom line
38:26Speaker 0of
38:27Speaker 0thyroid metabolism.
38:29Speaker 0You know, you got so many different markers to look at. You want to see how's the thyroid working? How is thyroid produced? Is the brain working well with the thyroid to communicate well to produce the thyroid hormone? Is the thyroid hormone converting well? Words converts in the gut, the liver, and the kidney so that you're getting a nice fraction of what's called free T3 hormones.
38:48Speaker 0So, you know, it's that whole approach and then making sure that we're absorbing our nutrients, we're getting our nutrients
38:55Speaker 0so that this process of mitochondrial
38:58Speaker 0function can work well.
39:01Speaker 2What is your thoughts on A, Methylene Blue?
39:05Speaker 2I'll keep these questions limited. So how about that? What's your thoughts on Methylene Blue? Yeah, I'm seeing, I mean, I use it, I'm on it. I've
39:13Speaker 0noticed
39:14Speaker 0a great response in my thoughts, my clarity,
39:19Speaker 0and even some energy on that. And that's kind of what people are taking it for. I mean, been a great brain product.
39:27Speaker 0It's being talked about for people with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's,
39:31Speaker 0you know, these severe brain issues that so many of us elderly
39:35Speaker 0grandparents are being subjected to today. So I think it's a great product.
39:40Speaker 0I don't see anything wrong with it at all. How about some
39:43Speaker 2B12 injections?
39:46Speaker 0So most B12 injections,
39:51Speaker 0it's
39:51Speaker 0cyanocobalamin.
39:56Speaker 0A really good B12 injection is the methylated form, the methylcobalamin.
40:01Speaker 0The cyanocobalamin, in my opinion, can have a little bit of a toxic effect on it, so I don't use injections.
40:07Speaker 0I prefer a sublingual,
40:09Speaker 0vitamin B12 that goes under the tongue absorbs right into the, bloodstream that way.
40:15Speaker 0And that's methylcobalamin.
40:16Speaker 0Remember we want to methylate.
40:18Speaker 0Methylation is methylfolate,
40:20Speaker 0methylcobalamin B6, another really good, trimethylglycine,
40:24Speaker 0these are all methylators.
40:25Speaker 0We need more methylation
40:27Speaker 0in society because so many people are lacking in those B vitamins
40:31Speaker 0for many reasons. Alcoholism,
40:33Speaker 0stress, poor diet, you know, diets depleted,
40:37Speaker 0whatever. There's many other issues that can degrade that methylation pathway, which is an important detoxification
40:43Speaker 2pathway. So what are some, know we haven't really touched on like, okay, I don't know. Can you talk a little bit about testosterone in men
40:50Speaker 2and what blood tests that you're seeing
40:53Speaker 2generally for men and how important is that? And then maybe women
40:58Speaker 2too? Low
41:00Speaker 0energy, unfocused,
41:02Speaker 0foggy,
41:03Speaker 0you might be dehydrated.
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41:26Speaker 2Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. I've seen it happen. It'd be some of the most important women hormones
41:32Speaker 2that can be identified
41:34Speaker 2and helped.
41:35Speaker 0Sure. Yeah, in regards to testosterone,
41:38Speaker 0I swear it's like an epidemic out there. It seems like any
41:43Speaker 0man I'm running labs on, you know,
41:46Speaker 040 and up seems to be in that deficient
41:50Speaker 0zone, and it's not just looking at total testosterone,
41:53Speaker 0it really doesn't tell you much,
41:55Speaker 0you have to look at the free testosterone that really just like, just like
42:00Speaker 0T3 free, that's the 1, that's the end game, that's hormone that hits the receptor and does the job on the cell, just like free testosterone. You wanna make sure you have enough free. There are some guys who have a good amount of total in the freeze to the floor. And why is that? Well, they have too many, binding proteins in the body, which is a whole nother topic about why that would be elevated.
42:20Speaker 0But,
42:20Speaker 0you know, so yeah, I think free testosterone
42:23Speaker 0is really important to look at, not just the total, there's also weekly bound
42:27Speaker 0testosterone. That's another way to kind of look at another level
42:31Speaker 0of testosterone.
42:32Speaker 0Total free and weekly bound testosterone really to get a really good idea of that. Looking at estrogens also in the body and making sure that if you know you're gonna do TRT, wanna get a baseline of your estrogen, basically estradiol.
42:44Speaker 0And then,
42:46Speaker 0I think that testosterone
42:48Speaker 0is really only seen as,
42:50Speaker 0can I get an erection?
42:52Speaker 0And
42:53Speaker 0am I motivated?
42:54Speaker 0I mean, testosterone
42:56Speaker 0is great for that, don't get me wrong. And it helps a lot of men, you know, who have ED who might start feeling demotivated,
43:02Speaker 0especially when you start getting into your 40s. But it's not just about that, it's about brain health,
43:08Speaker 0it's about heart health, bone health, gut health. I mean, testosterone receptors on many, all these different organs, and it's very important to think of it at that aspect. So there's guys who, I just talked to a guy today, he's all,
43:20Speaker 0know, he's like, yeah, this is my level. I was at 3 something and my free is 9. I said, man,
43:25Speaker 0he says, but I'm he says, but guess what, I'm still still got energy
43:30Speaker 0and I'm
43:31Speaker 0still doing fairly well with intimacy with my wife. I said,
43:34Speaker 0that's wonderful. I said, but you gotta think about these other things. You gotta think about your brain, your gut, your heart, your bones. You know, it's not just about that. So I think that, again, educating people more about what testosterone really does in the body.
43:47Speaker 0As far as women go,
43:49Speaker 0you know, you wanna run hormone count, mean, that's
43:52Speaker 0a big discussion, right?
43:54Speaker 0Perimenopause,
43:55Speaker 0know, premenopause,
43:56Speaker 0post menopause, right?
43:58Speaker 0Makes a big difference on what you're gonna look at in a woman. I think with a woman,
44:03Speaker 0my important thing on a woman is making sure adrenal function is healthy. Adrenal glands will take over when a woman goes into menopause,
44:11Speaker 0right? Those adrenal glands, you know, those ovaries shut down, they no longer produce estrogen. Guess what takes over? The adrenal glands take over. Those are your stress glands.
44:20Speaker 0There is so much stress in this world right now. It's not just emotional stress, it's dietary stress, it's chemical stress, it's emotional stress that attacks those adrenal glands. When a woman's going into menopause, guess what happens? If she has adrenal fatigue, she's gonna have a really hard time going through menopause because that's the those are the women who are going to have all the side effects from menopause. They're gonna be going to these doctors and getting put on all these hormones, which some of them I think are definitely necessary
44:47Speaker 0initially to get through, you know, that process.
44:51Speaker 0But you know, even even a woman, I'm seeing some really great results with TRT with women.
44:57Speaker 0Amazing, amazing results on blood work,
45:01Speaker 0energy.
45:03Speaker 0It's just these and drive, you know, some women lose drive and I'm seeing that the TRT if it's done correctly,
45:10Speaker 0not not overdoing it because a woman does not want virilizing effects. No, they'll start noticing some some changes that,
45:18Speaker 0you know, might not be too comfortable, but there is there is a balance and it's just about finding that balance.
45:23Speaker 0And then as far as women goes, of course, running progesterone,
45:26Speaker 0you know, running estrogen levels and testosterone,
45:29Speaker 0DHEA, the anti aging cortisol
45:32Speaker 0levels. You want to look at all these kind of things on these panels to kind of see where they're at hormonally.
45:37Speaker 0But again,
45:38Speaker 0when hormones are off, it's not the hormones that
45:42Speaker 0are really the problem,
45:44Speaker 0there's something underlying that caused the hormones to be off.
45:48Speaker 0Does that make sense? So looking
45:51Speaker 0more at
45:52Speaker 0the thyroid,
45:53Speaker 0looking more at
45:55Speaker 0red blood cell production, at gut health, at detoxification
45:59Speaker 0health,
46:00Speaker 0those are the things that cause the hormonal problems.
46:04Speaker 2You gotta always look and always peel back the onion, right? Well having this problem you could always say well that's because your hormones were off that's why you're feeling well why are my hormones off? A lot of women come to me hey I want to throw up can you run my hormones up because I'm feeling this this and that. Said well 1st
46:17Speaker 0let me look a little bit deeper than that. Let's look to see if there's something causing the hormones to possibly be up causing you to possibly have these hormonal symptoms that you're experiencing.
46:27Speaker 1That's what's missing. That's awesome, That's today. That's what's missing. Those types of questions, like that's what's missing from a lot of doctors that I think are getting people in
46:37Speaker 1trouble that they just want to prescribe something instead of
46:40Speaker 1asking what you just asked. Mean, as simple as, how was your sleep?
46:44Speaker 1How was your sleep? Did you go through something hard recently?
46:47Speaker 1Whatever.
46:48Speaker 1All these things affect people,
46:50Speaker 1humans,
46:51Speaker 1all of it. And I just, the frustrating thing for me is doctors don't ask those questions. I mean, you and I were sitting down the other day
46:59Speaker 1and we were putting pieces
47:01Speaker 1of me together, looking at this, compounding on this, all that stuff, right? And you said, Well, how are you sleeping? And that was 1 of the most important questions.
47:10Speaker 1Know that, but I would actually say that to other people, but I hadn't thought through it where my sleep sucked lately.
47:17Speaker 1And
47:18Speaker 1then I told you that the next weekend, my wife and I went away and I had a lot of sleep for 2 days. I felt like a new human the next 2 days.
47:26Speaker 1Felt Remember I was telling you how tired I was? I just got really good sleep.
47:29Speaker 1Those things are all all the above, all of the questions that need to be asked by doctors. So if you're listening to this,
47:37Speaker 1people, choosing
47:40Speaker 1the right doctor is so freaking important.
47:44Speaker 1You know, obviously a doctor that's gonna do what Doctor. Scott is doing, which is he's going to dig into
47:50Speaker 1the problem. It's not the surface, putting a band aid on the problem like most do. There's all these problems that yield that problem and you gotta get to the bottom of the problem, the real problem, to fix the problem. There's not that many doctors that I see doing that.
48:05Speaker 1Doctor. Scott, you're 1 of my best friends. I love you. I don't say this for that reason. I know that
48:11Speaker 1you do that. It's like, that's why we had you on the show. You dig into that stuff and it's, man, we need more of you out there, dude.
48:20Speaker 0We need more of you guys too out there, so I hope that this replicates.
48:25Speaker 2Yeah, no doubt. I think it will. So I know that we just scratched the surface of, you could talk for hours and
48:32Speaker 2go into more depth. Like, dude, I would like to have you on the Q and A
48:37Speaker 2on a Q and A show.
48:39Speaker 2You know, we'd probably get too many questions that we couldn't possibly answer them, and you'd have too many answers. But we will so we'll have you back for sure. Great. I love to be back, man. I appreciate you guys having me. And how do people
48:52Speaker 2get ahold of you?
48:55Speaker 2I guess, how do I Yeah, mean, this may not be the best way. I guess, yeah, I mean Can I ask you 1 last question? 1 last question, I'm sorry. Yeah. If I'm looking to get my HGH or testosterone tested,
49:07Speaker 2how fast to get an accurate test, what's the timing look like? Should I like how much before that test should I do my testosterone injection? How much before that should I do my last HGH injection?
49:16Speaker 2Then tell us how we reach you.
49:19Speaker 0Okay, so
49:21Speaker 0that
49:22Speaker 0can be a little challenging sometimes because
49:24Speaker 0a lot of guys,
49:26Speaker 0you know, are doing like 2 injections.
49:28Speaker 0The easiest way to do this is when someone does testosterone once a week, let's say they inject on a Monday, right, or let's just say they they say they inject on a let me take that back. Let's say they inject on Fridays, right, well, I have them go in like on a Wednesday.
49:43Speaker 2Okay.
49:44Speaker 0Okay, but if they're doing if they're if they're injecting on Monday and Thursday,
49:49Speaker 0right, let's just say Monday and Thursday, well, then I would have them go on
49:53Speaker 0Wednesday also.
49:55Speaker 0So what happens is you'll see a huge spike, you know, closer to the time up.
50:01Speaker 0So it's
50:02Speaker 0really, you know, when you're trying to watch CRT level,
50:06Speaker 0a hard answer because it depends on how the patient's gonna do that.
50:10Speaker 0I personally
50:11Speaker 0have tried both ways doing once a week and then doing Mondays and Thursdays.
50:17Speaker 0Personally, I feel absolutely no difference
50:20Speaker 0when doing that. I think what I I don't. Yeah, no you don't. I
50:25Speaker 0think what you might notice though is this, is if you did everything at once,
50:31Speaker 0you might have more aromatization where your SG- That's why I do it separately.
50:37Speaker 0Yeah, you spike up, you might have that more of that estrogenic
50:41Speaker 0effect. So splitting up does make more sense to me physiologically
50:45Speaker 0than maybe I do Monday and Thursday,
50:47Speaker 0that's what I do right now.
50:51Speaker 0Personally, I don't feel different. I don't feel like twice
50:54Speaker 0a week or once a week, you know, with anything because the levels, you know, the 0.5 life of that is keeping it up anyways, you know, as far as that, what you're doing shipping it or enanthate.
51:02Speaker 0So anyways, yeah, I mean that said,
51:05Speaker 0that's
51:06Speaker 0how I tell my guys to measure, you know, far as if we're doing 1 week or twice a week, that's the only way you can do it.
51:15Speaker 1Do you
51:16Speaker 1a
51:19Speaker 1preference and everybody's a science project, we talk about it all the time on here.
51:24Speaker 1Do you have a specific level that you would like men to be fully
51:28Speaker 1optimized?
51:29Speaker 1Maybe it'd be like 45
51:32Speaker 1free and 900
51:34Speaker 1full test. I mean, is there a number that you think
51:37Speaker 1is probably the best to stay within, like a little bracket in your opinion?
51:46Speaker 0It there's How do feel? Yeah,
51:48Speaker 0it's kinda I mean, if wanted to get, if I we wanted to throw out a bracket, yes, 700 to 900, you know, 1000
51:54Speaker 0seems to be, it's different with everybody. It's kind of subjective on that end too, is like where is your sweet spot, you know what I mean? So again,
52:02Speaker 0I just as long as they're running blood, know, and looking at other things down the line, not just, you know, testosterone level, but making sure that what their dose is is not affecting, I'm not seeing any negative
52:16Speaker 0blood markers come up,
52:18Speaker 0where,
52:19Speaker 0wherever, wherever they feel good. I mean, know what I am noticing though,
52:24Speaker 0is a lot of guys come to me, they've been on TRT for, you know, 2 34 years and they're doing it to say they're shooting 202
52:30Speaker 050 mg a week. It's not good. It's too much. I'm
52:35Speaker 0seeing that. I'm seeing a lot of mess. I'm seeing a lot of inflammation, seeing a lot of oxidative stress and seeing things that aren't
52:40Speaker 0very pleasing to me, you know. And again, lot of them are methylating, they're not taking fish oil, you know, there's other things that they're not doing, you know, tootka and liver, you know, you gotta you gotta supplement when you're gonna do that, especially if you're gonna keep your levels high like that. I always say, you know, maybe you wanna bring it down and then you can kinda cycle up and down, then that's
52:58Speaker 0kind of another option. You need to bring it down to maybe 125
53:02Speaker 0or 150 mg a week or whatever, you know, for a few months and you wanna bump it up a bit and go up. Mean,
53:09Speaker 0just gotta be responsible. Gotta be responsible for the wealth. I mean, we're all stewards of our bodies and our health, so we gotta make sure you dispute.
53:16Speaker 0But yeah, mean, looking at if you wanna look at total,
53:19Speaker 0you know, I think a 7 to 9 seems to be a pretty good fit for most men. On a TRT level, that's not a bodybuilding, that's a TRT level. Right. Bodybuilding, yeah, your bodybuilding
53:30Speaker 0gotta go up, right? I mean,
53:33Speaker 0that's not my expertise right there. I'm not, I don't push guys into that, I push guys into health where I can see them healthy, right? Yeah. A free
53:41Speaker 0testosterone,
53:42Speaker 0you know, 25 to 50 in there. Seems to be a pretty sweet spot.
53:47Speaker 1Yeah. Cool.
53:49Speaker 0Then getting back to you, on your question about HGH, I didn't forget about that.
53:52Speaker 0So, you know, you check the IGF-one level to measure that and
53:57Speaker 0guys are doing HGH every day, you know, it's a daily injection. So go get your blood and then do your injection out.
54:05Speaker 2Okay.
54:06Speaker 0You know what saying? You don't inject and then go to the blood, go get your blood. Yep.
54:11Speaker 0You are Anything expecting synthetic is gonna spike right away in the blood, right? Anything you put in your body, boom, you're gonna go get tested.
54:17Speaker 2So, you know. Yeah. So just do your regular 1 the night before, the morning before or whatever, however you do it, but don't
54:25Speaker 2take like a week long break and then try to get your blood tested and then come back and say, Oh,
54:30Speaker 2my IGF is low. This growth might not be good.
54:34Speaker 1Yeah, we've heard that. Yeah, yeah. You're
54:39Speaker 0on it every day, it's a daily thing. Let me give you an example, if you're doing testosterone, there's people who even do testosterone every day, did you know that? They might get a dose testosterone.
54:48Speaker 0So
54:49Speaker 0you're
54:50Speaker 0gonna do just pick a day, go get your blood done. You're gonna really see a
54:54Speaker 0good level of where you're at. If you're breaking up testosterone 7 days a week, wouldn't want to jab myself.
55:00Speaker 2Know that's the only problem. I mean, do, I believe in philosophy like yeah, predict all hormones, everything is predicated on something else, right? 1 hormone changes a little bit, everything else changes. The name of the game is just keep things level and- Yeah, keep it level balanced.
55:15Speaker 2I guess that would indicate, hey, if you could do it every day, same time of day, same amount, that's great, but then that means you gotta stick yourself 7 days. Not realistic. Sucks, it's not realistic. Okay,
55:26Speaker 0cool.
55:28Speaker 1Man, Scott, Doctor. Scott, we love you, man. I mean, could talk, we all could talk forever. Yeah, we'd love to have you back on as we will, man. But yeah, I know, I'm assuming there's gonna be some people who wanna talk to you as they should.
55:41Speaker 1I refer a lot of people to you through my DMs of people looking for blood work and whatnot because
55:47Speaker 1he really does care, he really does dig deep into it, and he's 1 of the rarer breeds that I know, and it's not because he's my friend,
55:54Speaker 1it's because he tries to help people, man.
55:56Speaker 1So if you are looking for some blood work or something like that,
56:00Speaker 1how would they find you?
56:02Speaker 0I think probably just my website. You know, you can contact
56:05Speaker 0me through my website. It's
56:08Speaker 0heydoctorscott.com.
56:09Speaker 0It's pretty easy. Heydrscott.com.
56:12Speaker 0Hey doctorscott.com.
56:15Speaker 0Probably the best way to get home. You could see what I do, everything I do. So
56:19Speaker 1We'll link it. We'll put it in there so we'll we'll make it easy to find you, but
56:24Speaker 1I love it, man. I enjoyed that, guys. I enjoyed that a lot, man. I could talk about this stuff forever. Anything before we leave, Will? What do think? I think everybody should do that, by the way.
56:33Speaker 2Yes. Is it what we're
56:35Speaker 2Yeah. Absolutely.
56:37Speaker 2It seems to me if you care about your health, right, If you have kids or if you
56:42Speaker 2wanna take any supplements or you, I mean, just it's a little bit of money that we can teach you a ton
56:48Speaker 2and
56:49Speaker 2make your life a whole lot better, right? If you feel good- Can I say 1 more thing about that Will? Course, you mentioned in that.
56:56Speaker 0You just kind of mentioned, you know, about supplements. So a lot of people have no idea what they need supplement wise. There's thousands
57:03Speaker 0of supplements on the market and people are just buying stuff because they heard it's good. They don't know how much to take, they don't know what to know, what brand to take, they don't know if they're taking it's good, it's real. I think that's important to really know what does your body need by looking at blood work, allows
57:17Speaker 0me to know exactly what you need, how much you need, how long you need to take it, and I mean,
57:23Speaker 0a lot of people just wasting so much money, why not focus
57:26Speaker 0in on supplementation that you really, really need. I'm not a huge supplement guy, I'm more a diet guy eating the right way, but everybody can use some supplemental health. I'm not gonna put you on 20 supplements or even 10. Try to find the best pack for a patient that really can optimize their health along with obviously eating right, which a lot of people need to learn how to eat right.
57:47Speaker 2Hip right, you're right. Huge man. Well, right on, cool. Yep, thank you. Well, cool man. Well, I enjoyed that and,
57:55Speaker 1yeah, we'll make it easy to find Doctor. Scott and, other than that, we will catch you on the flip side. Take care.
58:03Speaker 0What do we got?
58:04Speaker 0Oh, yeah.