Ep 74 · 34:03
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0:57Speaker 1Almost hit. I often think about, dude, is it worth what we pay to live here? And sometimes I say no, but like,
1:03Speaker 1like people like in Montana right now are freezing their ass off and like we could literally
1:12Speaker 1go to the trunks, go to the beach, be a little chilly, but we definitely get what we pay for. Well, you know, I moved here
1:24Speaker 2and there's no price difference. When I came here, it was so expensive here. Was like, what do you mean? I mean, there's end.
1:34Speaker 2techie up there though. Exactly. So like they make money. It's burgeoning. It's yeah. Cost living. It's the new, I guess maybe it's kind of a cool place to be, but yeah, it's expensive.
1:43Speaker 2So hell yes. I think it's worth what we pay here. Well, it's pretty much like that everywhere.
1:56Speaker 1and, so they live on a very small budget and sometimes I'm just like, man, how they even do it? 5 kids? Yeah. Small budget. Damn. Life is expensive. Expensive.
2:13Speaker 1Tell that to a poor person. They say money doesn't buy happiness. Money doesn't buy happiness. Thought about that actually often. It's like, it doesn't buy happiness, but in a sense it kind of does because when I'm stressed, I'm not happy. So if I have money, I'm not as stressed because if you have money, you're not stressed about money, which most people stress out. So kind of buys happiness in a sense, you know, that's such a big thing that people say about life. It kind of does. No, no, no. Right.
2:46Speaker 2drug addict, they give me 1000000 dollars. It's not going to fix the situation. It's not, I'm not going to all of a sudden be a different person.
3:04Speaker 2So he made 1 this morning, a little supervised, but I'm waiting until I come home and there's like smoothie juice in the ceiling and everywhere. So he's met my wife. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let's not have him. Let's don't have her teach.
3:25Speaker 2making him go take like a 100 cuts of the baseball. I've got this like, you know, like a hitting
3:45Speaker 1we see the warehouse and whatnot, but it's connected to your house outside. So I see you guys doing that constantly. And I don't, I don't like ease off on you, but like at the same time, it just pops up and then I'm all those, there's Will River
4:03Speaker 2yeah, go naked to the hot tub. You will see. That would not look good. Did I tell you this? My mom know you, I didn't, and I'm not.
4:19Speaker 2her unsupervised at the house and she like loves to have a hot tub. She got a hot tub in her house.
4:24Speaker 2she leaves and now he's like, hey, have you looked at the cameras up back? She was like, no. Was like, no. Shut up, bro. She goes, don't look. That's so funny. Like all day long, like 5, 5 separate times.
4:39Speaker 2Love it. And I have not told her that. It's liberation. Because there's no need to tell her unless
4:45Speaker 1she's listening to this podcast, which I- It's still love that it's rad dude. Yeah, liberation. She doesn't give a shit. Do you? She doesn't give a shit. I love that support man. Do you? Well, it's funny because I know that, you know, Will was telling me the other day that
5:02Speaker 1into what we're talking about. I'm honestly joking, but we're going to talk about some, a couple peptides that really
5:30Speaker 2They are pretty damn similar. And I guess the thing is everybody listening, like we're not, these are not
5:36Speaker 2like prescription pharmaceuticals with a whole bunch of like human trials. In fact, very little human trials and very, and they have not, they're brand new. They haven't been around a long time. So everything that we say is like- Not studied at is not studied is based on the small bit of research and like anecdotal evidence. Maybe, you know, there's like, I read some like human compassion trials from like late stage Alzheimer's
6:01Speaker 2there's not, there's no risk really to do a study and they had to say, yeah, volunteer for it. Right? And so there's some, some, some feedback from like patients of those types of studies, but there's no like big
6:40Speaker 1you know, benefits and risks. They sound great. I mean, they do. I mean, with where we're at in the world and just
7:01Speaker 1it doesn't matter what you do and how well you take care of yourself, blah, blah, blah.
7:06Speaker 1Your body starts to shut down. Your brain starts to shut down. I'm assuming if you're my age, you start to feel that because I'm not as quick witted as I was. I don't remember things like I used to.
7:24Speaker 1logged in, know any of us towards the end. It was really, really, really sad to see him because he was a badass. He was a B-fifty 2 bomber, just
7:40Speaker 1without stature, that's, you know, such a powerful guy turned into just not even know who his wife is. It sucked. That sucks. So if we have, if there's some stuff out there as science progresses, and especially if there chains of amino acids, alredzat instead of pharmaceutical crap,
7:55Speaker 1gosh, if they're, you know, so yeah, let's dig into it. Let's, yeah, you want to start with Pennantland or? Okay, let's do it. So folks, I will stand up and
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9:03Speaker 2the big thing, like he said, and you're not wrong, you're not wrong, JD, that I am getting a bit older also and forgetting things from time So to
9:12Speaker 2like as we get old, right, our brain starts to just not work as well. A lot of people have,
10:07Speaker 2neurons, synapses neurons, right? And then basically let your brain operate better under stress.
10:23Speaker 2And frankly, researchers don't even understand everything. So we're gonna go kind of basic here.
10:29Speaker 2It can cross the blood brain barrier, although it is best used via, well, it's best used subQ, which is how it crosses that blood brain barrier best. Okay.
10:56Speaker 2parts here, ideal candidates. Okay. And again, I'm not telling anybody to do this. Like this
11:01Speaker 2is theoretically who it is best, who should be using this. Okay. So we have ideal candidates versus don't bother.
11:21Speaker 2but you have high cognitive stress needs, right? You're an older executive. You are really needing to use your brain and, but you're getting older and it's not working as you want it to. Post
11:37Speaker 2trauma. You see a military helmet, a football helmet, boxing gloves for a reason. Those are some of the kind of polarizing a sports activities that
11:45Speaker 2have made it in the news today with with with TBIs and real brain issue. And then anybody vascular
12:00Speaker 2diagnose that. So that is basically who we're who should take this. Don't even bother. It's not gonna do much, right, if you are 20 to 35 and your brain's working really brain's working normally. Okay?
12:15Speaker 2Panalon is not gonna just it's not a big It's not a pre workout for your brain. Okay? If you want that, modafinil,
12:35Speaker 2And then if you're looking for a solution for anxiety or depression, so Pinealon is just there to protect your brain and help with just cognitive support, not to make you feel happier,
12:45Speaker 2not to give you less anxiety, none of that stuff. So it's a long term play and it's sure it's not like you're gonna take a pill and you're gonna feel it. Okay?
13:22Speaker 2twice a year. So every 6 months. Alright? More is not better with Pinealon. Right? It's not gonna be helpful. You build a tolerance
13:29Speaker 2and then it just doesn't do you any good. So that's for just maintenance protection if you're over 40 and yes, I am certain to forget sometimes.
13:45Speaker 2And not even extreme, but just so if you're, you know, if you are 50, then Why are we here? Cognitive defund.
13:54Speaker 2and then repeat every 4 months. Number 3, this is post injury, right? If you have a traumatic brain injury, if you have some,
14:02Speaker 2illness that really affected your brain or you're extremely burnt out, this is just kind of a recovery. Yeah. 10 mgs a day, 10 to 20 days, and then stop,
14:17Speaker 1brings us to the Dihexa. So we'll stop. So let's go back to that last screen. Cause I think that the, the, to go through the
14:29Speaker 1yeah, that's good. So we, what we've thought about guys that are listening here that is you can't overdo it. There's a lot of peptides that we would say that you could do for longer periods.
14:42Speaker 1you want to follow this protocol to a degree. We don't know everything, but we do do a lot of research. As Will is saying, so let's go through this 1 more time real quickly. We got, if you're about 40 plus, you're going to take 10 megs a day for 10 days in a row,
15:04Speaker 150 years old, give or take, right. You're going to take again, 10 mgs a day for 20 days, a little bit longer and then repeat every 4 months. Now, if you're somebody
15:24Speaker 1things like that. Then the recommendation is going to be 10 Migs a day for 10 to 20 days. Stop. See how you feel.
15:36Speaker 1again, we talk about a lot of the peptides that you can do, some in perpetuity, like a Wolverine and things like that, but this would be something that's not like that,
15:58Speaker 2Other than, hey, doing more than this isn't really going to help, but it is there to regulate. It's not like a stimulant. It's not going to take you past like anything past physiological
16:07Speaker 2levels. Okay? It's going to really just try to regulate your brain, right, to bring it back to healthy. So
16:21Speaker 2It'll try to bring you back up to normal, but it isn't going to bring you really past normal.
16:29Speaker 1you're kicking ass, right? Normal is your age is 40 and your brains working at 40 year old and you're 80. 5 Well, I don't know anybody that, I mean, obviously guys our age, we generally run with guys our age, right? As you probably do as well. And I don't know anybody that's just
16:44Speaker 1not starting to have brain fog and some of it's self inflicted, some of it's life inflicted, it doesn't matter, but I know you didn't go through some of the things. So 1 of the things that we were had kind of dug into in regards to some of the somethings that would be well to stack with it are going to be the NAD, which is great because it's going be in the mitochondrial
17:07Speaker 12 of our favorites. They go so well and so do Pinealon and Dihexa. We were just talking about that before we recorded.
17:25Speaker 1it's good. 1 of the best for inflammation and just bringing down inflammation in the body. And then Epitalon,
17:31Speaker 1which, you know, is an anti ager. And Epitalon is a good friend of ours, Paul Baxter. He starts everybody on every cycle with Epitalon.
17:44Speaker 2cleanse type thing. And yes, Epitalon anti aging signaling where it's brought, it says broader, right? That is more of a systemic anti aging whereas Pinealon is just
18:07Speaker 1Will and I were talking about this the other day and you know, we used talk about all the time where we're always trying to enhance
18:28Speaker 1breakdown of how we feel, blah, blah, blah. And these would be 2 that would be great because I know that, I have never done it. I've just, we just started, I just started the HEXA for the 1st time ever, and I've been wanting to do that for a while. They'll be good. They'll be good, but
19:02Speaker 2So guys, that's actually pretty easy math. If your goal is to do 10 mg a day, right? Again, when mixing, when mixing a peptide, right? The amount of water you put in
19:15Speaker 2as far as the effectiveness. There's no rhyme or reason. The only rhyme or reason why you put in a certain amount of water in is so the math
19:26Speaker 2You basically always, I mean, my guess is I would always want to put the least amount of water in. Now you do need to put enough water in so the powder actually dissolves. You got more powder and you put a tiny little bit of water in, going to kind of turn to gel, right? So you gotta put enough water in so the water, so the powder mixes to clear actual liquid.
19:43Speaker 2After that, right, it's just, it's really on you and just whatever the math is easiest. So a 10 mg bottle, and if we want to do 10 mg a day, right,
19:54Speaker 2that would be an entire bottle. Like if you can, my suggestion would be like, Hey, if I can put 0.5 a mil in there,
20:05Speaker 2There'd be no reason to put 3 mils in. You now have to inject 300 units. You know what I'm saying?
20:14Speaker 2Pinealon. So you're looking at 0.5 a bottle a day. I put in maybe 1 unit, you know, if you can still even get away with 50 units of water and then just do 25 in 1 day, 25 the next day. Sure. It's 10 to 10. I don't know. That makes sense. Anyway. Good stuff.
20:51Speaker 2most likely, we're gonna start with crosses the blood brain barrier because it's also a small amino acid chain
20:59Speaker 2it is okay in a pill, right? Because it is so small, it will pass through the blood brain barrier even in a pill form. That's awesome. It's being experimented
21:52Speaker 2You are it's interesting, like a TBI, say that the most damage doesn't really come from that initial impact. It comes from the post effect. So the initial impact, yes, damages,
22:30Speaker 2is going to strengthen those connections and regrow those connections because there was a big like growth signaling portion to Dihexa.
23:51Speaker 2not 1st anxiety, depression. Now here's the big, here's the kicker on Diaxa. So this is the worry. There is more upside in the research for Diaxa, but there is potentially more downside.
24:09Speaker 2Oncologists know that if that is activated and there is active cancer, that is 1 of the things that's going to help
24:19Speaker 2there is like heavy growth signaling present in dihexa. It is creating brand new tissue
24:38Speaker 2But if there is cancer present, it can grow it. So that is a concern. Another concern, right? If you're like pushing heavy growth hormone IGF-one,
24:47Speaker 2you're just adding even more growth signaling. Okay. And to your brain. Yep. So frankly, like, the best the best research this space is that may not be wise. We don't they're not really sure
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25:42Speaker 1That's just logic says is what they're saying that that could lead to it in long periods of taking it. And then we'll, we'll leave this up here when we talk about dosing. You guys,
26:01Speaker 2just like Pinealon is helping repair the actual neurons. This needs to repair the connections.
26:07Speaker 2So they go hand in hand, but so post injury is you're looking at like cycled and reassessed. 5 Migs to 10 mg a day,
26:18Speaker 2And then if you're going to do that again, right. At least take 1 to 2 months of break.
26:26Speaker 2That's looking for a pulse dosing. This is interesting. They want you to do kind of 5 to 10 Migs, 2 to 4 weeks, then 2 to 4 weeks off,
26:36Speaker 2Basically pulse, like you're going to hit the gas, then break gas, then break gas, then break as a, yeah, basic maintenance
26:44Speaker 2type cognitive dose. So that is something I just started taking that also. Would you? Doing that,
26:54Speaker 2yeah. You're not taking 10 megs. I'm a big dude. I'm six'four, 2 50. So if it says 5 to 10, take 10. Yeah.
27:02Speaker 2Sorry. Don't judge me people. But again, also, so oral delivery is the best, right? Experimenting with nasal.
27:16Speaker 2you'll have those diminishing returns of just higher side effect potential because all the growth signaling and just not much actual what you want.
27:49Speaker 2Cmax is a, you know, neurotransmitter modulator that's gonna kind of bring you up a bit. So when
27:55Speaker 2you're designing these new when you're creating these new neurons, it's nice to modulate those neurotransmitters and make them increase your neuroplasticity.
28:33Speaker 1to the degree. I think that that's how the base I'm going to say this again because I say it often, but I really think that it puts in perspective well,
28:42Speaker 1chips, Doritos, cookies, I think you should worry about those more. I mean, those are, we know they cause cancer. I mean, those are just proven to cause cancer. They're horrible for you. Seed oil, sugars,
28:52Speaker 1horrible for you. I would worry. I personally, I'll speak for myself, would worry about those a lot more than this. We're just shining a light on some of the things that we've read, we've researched. But I would say that if you do have active cancer and you know it, you shouldn't take this. Makes sense. And I hope you don't eat cookies either. Yeah. You shouldn't do anything else. Don't
29:19Speaker 2if Dihexa is like building new wiring, right? That's what it's for. It's just building the wiring. Pinealon is more like protecting and maintaining the wiring you already have. Yeah. Not really a profound statement, but they work hand in hand.
29:33Speaker 1There you go. Yeah, that's right. I like, that's why we were kind of comparing it to the SS-thirty 1 in the MOTS-seventy because MOTS-3s it up and SS-31is
29:49Speaker 2so either Dihexa also is not looking, it's not something theoretically you should be able to take a pill and go, I feel it. Wow, I feel it. But
30:04Speaker 2man, everything is just different in every person. Right? He takes 1 of those before he steps on stage.
30:09Speaker 2And it's like, we have a video of him being like, yes, full disclosure. I just took (1hexa): 10 mg of Dihexa before I walked up here. Wanted to take it ever since. Yeah. So,
30:24Speaker 1quite some time will remember when I went through the back surgery and Paul, good friend of ours, is who had given me the protocol for my back with a large doses of the Wolverine blend.
30:34Speaker 1Without a doubt, dude knows what he's talking about, man. So we'll listen to him. I mean,
30:39Speaker 1my memory sucks, man. I mean, without a doubt, you know, I think both of us will speak for me, have just wounded my head and my noggin by
30:54Speaker 1So as I get older, I forget things like I used to not have to put things on calendar now. Like, I don't put things on calendar, man. I'm forgetting everything. So both of these will do well with memory and things like that and enhancing memory.
31:07Speaker 1Why would you not? Yeah. I mean, geez, like, we're, you know, I'm 48 years old. Any, any, any step ahead that I can get that it's just literally chains of amino acids. Why would you not? Again, I'm not a big fan of
31:19Speaker 1stuff and doctors prescribing these types of things. These are chains of amino acids. If you can get a leg up with this stuff, why would you not? Or would you not? Yeah. True. Not even gonna be that expensive because the amount that you have to take so infrequently,
31:33Speaker 1it's worth it. Yeah, it's funny. We were talking about this before we were recording and even
31:38Speaker 1though it's not a peptide, but we, you know, we do TRT and we just do anything that like is intriguing. I think that what people are like, we should do a Modafinil. That would be a good episode on that.
31:51Speaker 11 of my favorites. But yeah, that's great, man. I enjoy it. I think I just started doing the Hexarelin. I have not done the Pinealon.
31:59Speaker 1I'm always a fat burner type guy, but I've been wanting to, like I said, we've been talking about different things and trying different ones and
32:06Speaker 1of reporting back and just, you know, so let's do it, man. I'm excited to kind of do that.
32:16Speaker 1what do we have next? What's today? Friday. So we have a couple of things next week. So I
32:21Speaker 1think we'll probably have to bust out the Q and A on Monday, which will drop, I think, on Thursday, but we have
32:33Speaker 1Botox and a lot of our facials and all the stuff that has worked so well for me. You've seen me post on that, but she's coming in for you ladies. We've had 2 doctors talking about TRT and we get so many of you reaching out about
32:47Speaker 1testosterone for the ladies. So she does pellets and she's gonna come in and talk about the TRT for you gals,
32:57Speaker 1she travels the world and educates herself. She's always in Africa or here and there and like just always like
33:09Speaker 1just talking about some of the stuff that you ladies like to talk about and stuff like that. It's gonna be cool to see where the conversation goes.
33:20Speaker 2That'll be, it'll, it will be enlightening and interesting because as we know, like women-
33:32Speaker 1doctors we've had on are obviously leaning more, know, they're men and they have practices based upon men. I mean, they both have worked a little bit with women, but she works with women. I mean, that's the majority of what she works with. So
33:51Speaker 2all of the fitness stuff just works like, because we're just meant to be, we're meant to put on muscle and be big and fast and strong and chase down animals and kill them with their bare hands. Right? Like that's just, that's our DNA.
34:02Speaker 1So all these other hormonal things, they make that easy. So for women, it's I always say like, feed them, give them sex, tell them they're doing a good job and you have a good, you have a happy man.
34:12Speaker 1We're very simple individuals. And then you ladies are like, my wife will send me 19 text messages and I'll answer the 1st question. I'll be like, why don't you answer another question?
34:39Speaker 1that, because we love it. We love fitness. It's the genesis of where we both started in this whole thing was fitness,
34:50Speaker 1fasting stuff that I'll put in there because I love that stuff. And we're thinking about a coaching Warrior Makers coaching program. And
34:57Speaker 1also the circle that we will be pulling people off of social media onto our own circle to where we'll have some direct
35:04Speaker 1Zooms and some things like that for the people that want to, you know, kind of jump on that too. So cool things coming. If that is of interest to you guys,
35:12Speaker 1drop us some DMs on any of our channels, we will read them all. We want to hear if you guys would be stoked on that