Peptide of the Week: Pinealon & Dihexa – Neuroprotection, Memory & Cognitive Longevity Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-pinealon-dihexa-neuroprotection-memory-cognitive-longevity/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. 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And sometimes I say no, but like, 1:04 Speaker 1: like people like in Montana right now are freezing their ass off and like we could literally 1:09 Speaker 2: put on 1:11 Speaker 1: flip flops, 1:13 Speaker 1: go to the trunks, go to the beach, be a little chilly, but we 1:17 Speaker 2: definitely get what we pay Well, you know, I moved I moved here from Seattle 1:22 Speaker 2: about 10 years ago 1:25 Speaker 2: and there's no price difference. When I came here, it so expensive here. Was like, what do you mean? I mean, so there's and where's 1:32 Speaker 1: Everybody's 1:34 Speaker 2: techie up there though. Exactly. It's like, you make money. It's burgeoning. It's yeah. Cost living. It's the new I guess maybe it's kind of a cool place to be, but yeah, it's expensive. 1:44 Speaker 2: So hell yes. I think it's worth what we pay here. Well, it's pretty much like that everywhere. 1:48 Speaker 1: I mean, geez, the cost of living. Oh my gosh. Is crazy. Feel like, 1:52 Speaker 1: I mean, my sister has 5 kids and, you know, he's a pastor 1:57 Speaker 1: and, so they live on a very small budget and sometimes I'm just like, man, how they even do it? 5 kids? Yeah. Small budget. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. That's tough. Life is expensive. Expensive. 2:07 Speaker 2: And that's 1 of the biggest stressors in life is money. 2:10 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know, money isn't everything. Tell that to a poor person. 2:15 Speaker 1: They say money doesn't buy happiness. Money doesn't buy happiness. Thought about that actually often. And it's like, it doesn't buy happiness, but in a sense it kind of does because when I'm stressed, I'm not happy. So if I have money, I'm not as stressed because if you have money, you're not stressed about money, which most people stress out. So kind of buys happiness kind of sense. You know, that's such a big thing that people say It about life. It kind of does. No, no, no. Right. 2:38 Speaker 2: But we, I guess we kind of under, we understand what, what they mean. It's 2:44 Speaker 2: like if I'm depressed and I'm 2:46 Speaker 2: a drug addict, then give me 1000000 dollars. It's not going to fix the situation. It's not, I'm not going to all of sudden be a different person. But 2:53 Speaker 2: I got a little bit of resources to help me be a little different person. Yeah. 2:57 Speaker 2: Anyway, 2:58 Speaker 2: yeah. So I don't know. Life's good, dude. I've, taught 3:01 Speaker 2: River how to make smoothies. 3:05 Speaker 2: So 3:05 Speaker 2: he made 1 this morning, a little supervised, but I'm waiting till I come home and there's like smoothie juice in the ceiling and everywhere. So he's met he's met my wife. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, let's not have him. Let's don't have her teach. I'm just joking. Babe, I'm just joking. I'm just playing. 3:22 Speaker 2: And I got him like making 3:25 Speaker 2: him go take like a 100 cuts of the baseball. I've got this like, you know, 3:29 Speaker 2: like a hitting 3:30 Speaker 2: net with a T and 3:33 Speaker 2: making him take a 100 cuts 3:35 Speaker 2: a day before he's allowed to 3:38 Speaker 2: watch TV. 3:40 Speaker 1: Don't know. It's not like on the 3:43 Speaker 1: what is it? The zoo, not zoom, but where 3:45 Speaker 1: we see the warehouse and whatnot, but it's connected to your house outside. So I see you guys doing that constantly. 3:52 Speaker 1: And I don't, I don't like ease off on you, but like at the same time, it just pops up and then I'm all those, there's Will River playing 3:58 Speaker 1: baseball. 4:00 Speaker 2: You must see like 4:02 Speaker 2: my girl, 4:03 Speaker 2: yeah, go naked to the hot tub. Will see. So did I tell you this? My mom, I know you would, I'm not, 4:10 Speaker 2: I don't think, 4:12 Speaker 2: my mom, my, so my mom came to visit for a week and my mom is like a hippie folks. And 4:18 Speaker 2: we left her 4:19 Speaker 2: unsupervised at the house and she like loves to have a hot tub. She had a hot tub in her house. 4:23 Speaker 2: And so she leaves and now he's like, Hey, have you looked at the cameras up back? And I like, No. Was like, No, 4:30 Speaker 2: don't look. That's so funny. Like all day long, like 5 5 separate times. 4:35 Speaker 2: Butt naked? Just rotten. That is funny. Love 4:40 Speaker 2: it. And I have not told her that. It's liberation. Because there's no need to tell her unless 4:45 Speaker 1: she's listening to this podcast, which I- It's still lucky that it's rad, dude. But yeah, liberation. She doesn't give a shit. Just do you. She doesn't give a I love that support, Do you. Well, it's funny because I know that, you know, Will was telling me the other day that he's forgetting everything, 4:58 Speaker 1: he's forgetting his name. And so it's a perfect segue 5:03 Speaker 1: into what we're talking about. I'm honestly joking, but we're gonna talk about some, a couple peptides that really 5:09 Speaker 1: have been known, I should say, been known to enhance the brain 5:14 Speaker 1: cognitive function. 5:16 Speaker 1: So let's talk about 2, Dihexa. 5:19 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Pinealon. And 5:22 Speaker 1: always, which 1 do you want to start with? 5:24 Speaker 2: Pinealon. 5:26 Speaker 2: I don't know how you say it, but that's how I'm going say it. Pinealon. 5:31 Speaker 2: They are pretty damn similar. And I guess the thing is everybody listening, like we're not, these are not 5:36 Speaker 2: like prescription pharmaceuticals with a whole bunch of like human trials. In fact, very little human trials and very, and they have not, they're brand new. They haven't been around a long time. So everything that we say is like- Not studied at is not studied, is based on the small bit of research and like anecdotal evidence. Maybe, you know, there's like, I read some like human compassion trials from like late stage Alzheimer's, 6:00 Speaker 2: where 6:01 Speaker 2: there's not, there's no risk really to do a study and they had to say, yeah, volunteer for it. Right? And so there's some, some, some feedback from like patients of those types of studies, but there's no like big 6:14 Speaker 2: massive data set, 6:17 Speaker 2: clinical trials on this stuff. 6:20 Speaker 2: At your 6:22 Speaker 2: own risk. Nobody's telling you to do a damn thing. You're hopefully 6:25 Speaker 2: people 6:26 Speaker 2: are grown up responsible. 6:28 Speaker 2: Make your own decisions, but I can, we'll tell you kind of how they, 6:32 Speaker 2: yes, how they were working, 6:34 Speaker 2: what they are being 6:37 Speaker 2: researched for and, 6:39 Speaker 1: the kind of promising, you know, benefits and risks. They sound great. I mean, they do. I mean, with where we're at in the world and 6:48 Speaker 1: just some of the food and there's the toxicity of the world, 6:53 Speaker 1: know, they sound great. They read well. 6:57 Speaker 1: And for guys, you know, like me, that's pushing 50 and, 7:02 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do and how well you take care of yourself, 7:05 Speaker 1: blah, blah, blah. Your body starts to shut down. Your brain starts to shut down. I'm assuming if you're my age, you start to feel that because I'm not as quick witted as I was. I don't remember things like I used to. 7:16 Speaker 1: Any little leg up that I can get and, 7:20 Speaker 1: Alzheimer's runs in my family. So my grandpa 7:23 Speaker 1: literally 7:25 Speaker 1: didn't know any of us towards the end. It was really, really, really sad to see him because he was a badass. He was a B-fifty 2 bomber, 7:32 Speaker 1: just military 7:34 Speaker 1: dude, Italian badass sort of, I was young. But 7:38 Speaker 1: to watch 7:40 Speaker 1: somebody without stature, that's, you know, such a powerful guy turned into just not even know who his wife is. It sucked. So if we have, if there's some stuff out there as science progresses, and especially if there chains of amino acids, I'll read that instead of pharmaceutical crap, 7:55 Speaker 1: Gosh. If they're you know? So, yeah, let's dig into it. Let's just yeah. You wanna start with, in Atlanta or? Okay. Let's do it. So, folks, I will stand up and 8:04 Speaker 2: give me a sec. 8:07 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. The space to go further, 8:11 Speaker 0: to feel better, 8:13 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. And this space starts with ultra fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, ultra fit gives toes more room to move naturally. So every step is strong, balanced, 8:25 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 8:32 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 8:44 Speaker 2: Visuals. Okay, that should be recording so you all can see it now. Okay, 8:50 Speaker 2: and I have to hold this microphone here apparently. 8:53 Speaker 2: So 8:54 Speaker 2: Pinealon, we are talking about the brain. This is a brain folks. 8:58 Speaker 2: Pinealon and Dihexa, we're gonna start with Pinealon. 9:02 Speaker 2: So 9:04 Speaker 2: the big thing, like he said, and you're not wrong. You're not wrong, JD, that I am getting a bit older also and forgetting things sometimes. So 9:12 Speaker 2: like as we get old, right, our brain starts to just not work as well. A lot of people have, like, 9:20 Speaker 2: issues in their brain, so not enough blood is getting to the brain and that slowly 9:25 Speaker 2: makes the brain not work as well. Okay. Synapses die off, etcetera. 9:29 Speaker 2: Toxins, 9:30 Speaker 2: right? Drugs, 9:32 Speaker 2: all the drugs that we consume are drugs that I've consumed, 9:35 Speaker 2: all the sugar and all the BS that we kind of poison ourselves with 9:40 Speaker 2: goes towards cognitive decline, bad sleep, like consistently not sleeping. 9:45 Speaker 2: Then any injuries, right? Any 9:47 Speaker 2: concussions, real like TBIs, 9:49 Speaker 2: PTSD, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So Pinealon's 9:52 Speaker 2: main function 9:54 Speaker 2: is to 9:55 Speaker 2: A, repair, 9:57 Speaker 2: okay, repair your neurons 10:00 Speaker 2: and then protect them from future damage 10:03 Speaker 2: and 10:04 Speaker 2: help the communication 10:06 Speaker 2: between 10:07 Speaker 2: neurons, synapses neurons, right? 10:10 Speaker 2: And then basically let your brain operate better under stress. 10:14 Speaker 2: So I'm 10:16 Speaker 2: not going to use a whole bunch of big words for you guys because it's pointless and, 10:21 Speaker 2: this stuff gets really complex. 10:24 Speaker 2: And frankly, researchers don't even understand everything. So we're gonna go kind of basic here. 10:30 Speaker 2: It can cross the blood brain barrier, although it is best used via, well, it's best used subQ, which is how it crosses that blood brain barrier best. Okay. 10:40 Speaker 2: We've covered that. It's giving your brain cell repair, right? Neuro protection, 10:45 Speaker 2: increased vascular support 10:47 Speaker 2: and helps with combat brain aging. 10:51 Speaker 1: Anti aging. 10:54 Speaker 2: The easy 10:56 Speaker 2: parts here, ideal candidates. Okay. And again, I'm not telling anybody to do this. Like this 11:02 Speaker 2: is theoretically who it is best, who should be using this. Okay. So we have ideal candidates versus don't bother. 11:09 Speaker 2: Ideal candidates, 45 years and older, 11:12 Speaker 2: having like ask yourself these questions, right? Slight memory decline, slow recall, 11:17 Speaker 1: brain fog, 11:18 Speaker 2: and you're over 45, maybe a candidate 11:20 Speaker 2: older, 11:21 Speaker 2: but you have high cognitive stress needs, right? You're an older executive. You are really needing to use your brain and, but you're getting older and it's not working as you want it to. Post 11:33 Speaker 2: stroke, post TBI, which is traumatic brain injury and PTSD 11:38 Speaker 2: trauma. You see a military helmet, a football helmet, boxing gloves for a reason. Those are some of the kind of polarizing ace sports activities that 11:46 Speaker 2: have made it in the news today with with with TBIs and real brain issue. And then anybody vascular 11:51 Speaker 2: related cognitive decline. So basically not enough blood getting to the brain. 11:56 Speaker 2: Those of you who have that have seen a doctor, doctors can, 12:00 Speaker 2: diagnose that. So that is basically who we're who should take this. Don't even bother. It's not gonna do much, right, if you are 20 to 35 and your brain's working really brain's working normally. Okay? 12:13 Speaker 2: If you are looking for fast results, 12:16 Speaker 2: Panalon is not gonna just it's not a big spike. It's not a pre workout for your brain. Okay? If you want that modafinil, 12:23 Speaker 2: which is doable. 12:24 Speaker 2: Adderall, 12:26 Speaker 2: doable, 12:27 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't do that. 12:28 Speaker 2: Modafinil is cool. Like 12:30 Speaker 2: the prescription smart pill, like a non narcotic Adderall. 12:35 Speaker 2: And then if you're looking for a solution for anxiety or depression, so Pinealon is just there to protect your brain and help with just cognitive support, not to make you feel happier, 12:45 Speaker 2: not to give you less anxiety, none of that stuff. So it's a long term play and it's sure it's not like you're gonna take a pill and you're gonna feel it. Okay? 12:55 Speaker 2: Dosing. 12:56 Speaker 2: So in research, they basically is kind of like 3 dosing philosophies. 13:02 Speaker 2: Right? 13:03 Speaker 2: Number 1, I would say like, this is myself and I'm 13:08 Speaker 2: taking it and will continue to take it. But at this rate, so this is somebody who's over 40, 13:14 Speaker 2: and this is basically just a maintenance protection of my brain. Right? 13:19 Speaker 2: 10 mgs a day, 10 days in a row, 13:22 Speaker 2: twice a year. So every 6 months. Alright? More is not better with Pinealon, right? It's not gonna be helpful. You build a tolerance 13:30 Speaker 2: and then it just doesn't do you any good. So that's for just maintenance protection if you're over 40, and yes, I am starting to forget sometimes. 13:37 Speaker 2: Or number 2, if you like JD. 13:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. 13:41 Speaker 2: 50 and extreme cognitive dis defunct. 13:44 Speaker 1: T shirt. 13:46 Speaker 2: And not even extreme, but just so if you're, you know, if you are 50, then Why are we here? Cognitive defund. 13:52 Speaker 2: 10 mgs a day, 20 days in a row, 13:54 Speaker 2: and then repeat every 4 months. Number 3, this is post injury, right? If you have a traumatic brain injury, if you have some, 14:03 Speaker 2: illness that really affected your brain or you're extremely burnt out, this is just kind of a recovery. Yeah. 10 mgs a day, 10 to 20 days, and then stop, 14:11 Speaker 2: let it kind of do its work and let your brain do its natural healing process 14:17 Speaker 1: brings us to the Dihexa. So we'll stop the other 1. So let's go back to that last screen. Cause I think that the, the, to go through the 14:25 Speaker 1: dosages is good because 14:28 Speaker 1: what we've, 14:29 Speaker 1: yeah, that's good. So we, what we've thought about guys that are listening here that is you can't overdo it. There's a lot of peptides that we would say that you could do for longer periods. 14:39 Speaker 1: 1, they don't have a lot of studies on this, like we said. 2, 14:43 Speaker 1: you want to follow this protocol to a degree. We don't know everything, but we do do a lot of research. So as Will is saying, so let's go through this 1 more time real quickly. So we've got, if you're about 40 plus, you're going to take 10 mg a day for 10 days in a row, 14:57 Speaker 1: then stop and 14:59 Speaker 1: then do another 6 after Right. 6 15:02 Speaker 1: So twice a year, about 15:04 Speaker 1: 50 years old, give or take, right. You're going to take again, 10 mgs a day for 20 days, a little bit longer and then repeat every 4 months. Now, if you're somebody 15:13 Speaker 1: like UFC fighter, anybody that bull 15:17 Speaker 1: rider, anybody that has been hit in the head quite a bit, 15:22 Speaker 1: military, 15:24 Speaker 1: PTSD, 15:25 Speaker 1: things like that. Then the recommendation is going to be 10 Migs a day for 10 to 20 days. 15:31 Speaker 1: See how you feel. 15:33 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go through that a little bit again, just simply because again, we talk about a lot of the peptides that you can do, some in perpetuity, like a Wolverine and things like that, but this would be something that's not like that, 15:44 Speaker 1: because of the studies and just because it's can. It is a bioregulator, 15:50 Speaker 2: it's 15:52 Speaker 2: a very short amino acid chain and it is not, so there's very little downside. Okay. 15:58 Speaker 2: Other than, hey, doing more than this isn't really going to help, but it is there to regulate. It's not like a stimulant. It's not going to take you past like anything past physiological 16:08 Speaker 2: levels. Okay? It's going to really just try to regulate your brain, right? To bring it back to healthy. Yeah. 16:15 Speaker 2: So after some, something that caused some decline, 16:19 Speaker 2: those I mentioned at the beginning. Life. Life. Right? It'll try to bring you back up to normal, but it isn't going bring you really past normal. 16:27 Speaker 2: But if you're 80 and you in normal, 16:30 Speaker 1: you're kicking ass, right? Normal's your age is 40 and your brain's working like 40 year old and you're 80. 0 Well, don't know anybody that, I mean, guys our age, we generally run with guys our age, right? As you probably do as well. And I don't know anybody that's just 16:44 Speaker 1: not starting to have brain fog and some of it's self inflicted, some of it's life inflicted, it doesn't matter, I know you didn't go through some of other things. So 1 of the things that we were had kind of dug into in regards to some of the somethings that would be well to stack with it are going to be the NAD, which is great because it's going be in the mitochondrial 17:03 Speaker 1: and 17:04 Speaker 1: cellular 17:04 Speaker 1: repair, 17:05 Speaker 1: which MOTS-CNS-31R 17:07 Speaker 1: 2 of our favorites. They go so well and so do Vanilla and Dihexa. We were just talking about that before we recorded. 17:14 Speaker 1: Very similar to how well MOTS-CNS-31R 17:17 Speaker 1: work. So do these other 2. 17:20 Speaker 1: And then obviously, Thymosin Alpha-one for numerous reasons, immunity always, but 17:26 Speaker 1: it's good. 1 of the best for inflammation and just bringing down inflammation in the body. And then Epitalon, which, you know, is an anti ager. Epitalon is a good friend of ours, Paul Baxter. He starts everybody on every cycle with Epitalon. 17:40 Speaker 2: That's a good to start with. That's kind of resetting, right? It's a reset, 17:44 Speaker 2: cleanse type thing. And yes, Epitalon anti aging signaling where it's brought, it says broader, right? That is more of a systemic anti aging whereas Pinealon is 17:54 Speaker 2: just brain. Yeah. Just 17:56 Speaker 2: brain bring you back to regulation. 17:58 Speaker 2: So yeah, those are some good ones to take. 18:02 Speaker 1: Needed in this world and what we got going on. So yeah, 18:07 Speaker 1: Will and I were talking about this the other day and you know, we used to talk about all the time where we're always trying to enhance 18:14 Speaker 1: the podcast, 18:16 Speaker 1: do some different stuff, try some different stuff. And we're thinking about 18:19 Speaker 1: both of us trying 1 peptide at a time for a month and then giving like a really 18:26 Speaker 1: hands on, so to speak, 18:28 Speaker 1: breakdown of how we feel, blah, blah, blah. And these would be 2 that would be great because I know that, I have never done it. I just, we just started, I just started the HEXA for the 1st time ever, and I've been wanting to do that for a while. They'll be good. They'll be good, but 18:43 Speaker 2: it may be tough. It may be tough to, 18:46 Speaker 2: to know and feel what they're doing after, 18:49 Speaker 2: even like after a month. Right. But 18:51 Speaker 2: it's worth a try. Absolutely. 18:54 Speaker 2: And I guess last piece of you see, there's a Pinealon like 10 mg 18:58 Speaker 2: right there bottle. 19:00 Speaker 2: It I'd seen it in 10 or 20 mg. So guys, that's actually pretty easy math. If your goal is to do 10 mg a day, right? Again, when mixing, when mixing a peptide, right, the amount of water you put in 19:14 Speaker 2: does not really mean anything 19:16 Speaker 2: as far as the effectiveness. There's no rhyme or reason. The only rhyme or reason why you put a certain amount of water in is so the math 19:22 Speaker 2: is easier when you're drawing, when you're drawing up your dose. Okay? 19:27 Speaker 2: You basically always, mean, my guess is I would always want to put the least amount of water in. Now you do need to put enough water in so the powder actually dissolves. You got more powder and you put a tiny little bit of water in, going to kind of turn to gel, right? So you gotta put enough water in so the water, so the powder mixes to clear actual liquid. 19:44 Speaker 2: After that, right, it's just, it's really on you and just whatever the math is easiest. So a 10 mg bottle, and if we want to do 10 mg a day, right, 19:54 Speaker 2: that would be an entire bottle. Like if you can, my suggestion would be like, Hey, if I can put 0.5 a mil in there, 20:00 Speaker 2: mix it, draw the 0.5 a mil and the 50 units and inject it all at once. 20:05 Speaker 2: There'd be no reason to put 3 mils in. You now have to inject 300 units. You know what I'm saying? 20:11 Speaker 2: So 20:12 Speaker 2: I think more likely I've seen 20 mg 20:15 Speaker 2: Pinealon. So you're looking at 0.5 a bottle a day. I put in maybe 1 unit, you know, if you can still even get away with 50 units of water and then just do 25 in 1 day, 25 the next day. It's 10 to 10. I don't know. That makes sense. Anyway. Good stuff. 20:30 Speaker 2: Okay, next up is 20:32 Speaker 2: the Hexarelin. 20:34 Speaker 1: We were talking about this for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been good. Yes. 20:38 Speaker 2: Yes. We've experimented with- 20:41 Speaker 2: Injectables. 20:42 Speaker 2: Sub Q, Dihexa, 20:43 Speaker 2: and had some issues with that. 20:47 Speaker 2: Now you can hear me? Okay. So, 20:51 Speaker 2: Dihexa, 20:52 Speaker 2: most likely, we're gonna start with crosses the blood brain barrier because it's also a small amino acid chain 20:59 Speaker 2: and 21:00 Speaker 2: it is okay in a pill, right? Because it is so small, it will pass through the blood brain barrier even in a pill form. That's awesome. It's being experimented to 21:10 Speaker 2: be used in nasal sprays, which just bypasses that barrier anyway. 21:14 Speaker 2: Again, 21:15 Speaker 2: I will bypass all the big words, 21:19 Speaker 2: but the main thing on Dihexa, right? It 21:23 Speaker 2: is established building new connections. 21:26 Speaker 2: Okay. 21:27 Speaker 2: Connection, right? We are these 21:29 Speaker 2: neurons, your synapses. If this is healthy, 21:33 Speaker 2: this is healthy, but they don't connect, then they're worthless. 21:36 Speaker 2: So its whole job is to strengthen these connections 21:39 Speaker 2: and build new ones. 21:41 Speaker 2: Okay. 21:45 Speaker 2: So a couple things that it is being actually studied 21:48 Speaker 2: for Alzheimer's, 21:49 Speaker 2: TBI, right, healthy brain. 21:53 Speaker 2: You are it's interesting like a TBI, they say that most damage doesn't really come from that initial impact. It comes from the post effect. So the initial impact, yes, damages, 22:03 Speaker 2: but then your brain starts 22:05 Speaker 2: starts swelling. 22:07 Speaker 2: Right? A lot of inflammation. All these neurons start going crazy. 22:10 Speaker 2: The, 22:11 Speaker 2: what starts to happen is 22:13 Speaker 2: here's your healthy brain with these good connections, good connections. Well, 22:18 Speaker 2: connections start to break. 22:19 Speaker 2: Once that breaks, 22:21 Speaker 2: then the neurons just start to die 22:24 Speaker 2: and more inflammation, they go crazy 22:26 Speaker 2: and they start and they start to die. So Dihexa theoretically 22:30 Speaker 2: is going to strengthen those connections and regrow those connections because there was a big like growth signaling portion to Dihexa. 22:38 Speaker 2: It's actually growing new tissue, but in your brain. Okay. But just the synapses. 22:43 Speaker 2: Alzheimer's has this plaque, it slows it down, but also it's affecting those connections. 22:48 Speaker 2: And so 22:49 Speaker 2: there are, 22:50 Speaker 2: like we said, these small studies with individual 22:53 Speaker 2: people commenting on the benefit that they've experienced. And 22:58 Speaker 2: yeah, so really being studied there, there. 23:03 Speaker 2: So here we go. Same same type of organization 23:06 Speaker 2: as Pinealon. 23:07 Speaker 2: Ideal candidates, you're gonna see a lot of these are the same. 23:12 Speaker 2: Early Alzheimer's, 23:14 Speaker 2: post stroke, 23:16 Speaker 2: TBI, 23:17 Speaker 2: Parkinson's, 23:18 Speaker 2: which we have a family friend who has Parkinson's. 23:21 Speaker 2: And I mean, frankly, if you, like you said, dude, if you got Alzheimer's 23:26 Speaker 2: or late stage Parkinson's or hell late stage, any of this stuff, 23:30 Speaker 2: or watching a family member go through it. It's horrible. 23:33 Speaker 2: Do they have to lose to try this 45 23:37 Speaker 2: years old memory decline, the same, same deal here, 23:40 Speaker 2: right? And high functioning adults, 23:43 Speaker 2: executives, 23:45 Speaker 2: ideal candidates, same deal. Don't bother cognitively healthy. 23:48 Speaker 2: You want fast results. Not for you, 23:51 Speaker 2: not 1st anxiety, depression. Now here's the big, here's the kicker on Diaxa. So this is the worry. There is more upside in the research for Diaxa, but there is potentially more downside. 24:02 Speaker 2: So the big thing is 24:05 Speaker 2: this pathway right here, 24:07 Speaker 2: HGFC 24:08 Speaker 2: met, 24:09 Speaker 2: oncologists know that if that is activated and there is active cancer, that is 1 of the things that's going to help 24:16 Speaker 2: proliferate that cancer, right? Because 24:20 Speaker 2: there is like heavy growth signaling present in dihexa. It is creating brand new tissue 24:27 Speaker 2: in your brain. 24:28 Speaker 2: And it will, if you have active cancer, 24:32 Speaker 2: it 24:33 Speaker 2: absolutely can make that grow. This does not mean that it causes cancer. Okay. 24:39 Speaker 2: But if there is cancer present, it can grow it. So that is a concern. Also another concern, right? If you're like pushing heavy growth hormone IGF-one, 24:47 Speaker 2: you're just adding even more growth signaling, 24:50 Speaker 2: okay, 24:51 Speaker 2: and to your brain. Yep. So frankly, like the best, the best research just faces that may not be wise. We don't, they're not really sure 24:59 Speaker 2: why, 25:00 Speaker 2: but too much growth in certain places 25:04 Speaker 2: isn't normal and cannot be can be not good. 25:08 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. The space to go further, 25:12 Speaker 0: to feel better, 25:13 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. And this space starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, 25:23 Speaker 0: so every step is strong, balanced, 25:26 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 25:33 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 25:39 Speaker 1: Think through it. Like, be it's not saying he's not saying that it it causes cancer. That's just logic says is what they're saying that that could lead to it in long periods of taking it. And then we'll, we'll leave this up here when we talk about dosing. You guys, so the 25:55 Speaker 2: 2 philosophies 25:56 Speaker 2: here is, 25:57 Speaker 2: is number 1, 25:59 Speaker 2: injury, right? So 26:02 Speaker 2: just like Pinealon is helping repair the actual neurons. This needs to repair the connections. 26:07 Speaker 2: So they go hand in hand, but so post injury is you're looking at like cycled and reassessed. 5 Migs to 10 mg a day, 26:16 Speaker 2: 30 days, then stop and assess. 26:19 Speaker 2: And then if you're going to do that again, right? At least take 1 to 2 months of break. 26:23 Speaker 2: Number 2 is for cognitive decline and maintenance. 26:27 Speaker 2: That's looking for a pulse dosing. This is interesting. They actually want you to do kind of 5 to 10 mgs, 2 to 4 weeks, then 2 to 4 weeks off. 26:35 Speaker 2: Then, then do it again on. So basically pulse, like you're gonna hit the gas, then break gas, 26:41 Speaker 2: then break gas, then break as a, 26:43 Speaker 2: yeah, basic maintenance 26:45 Speaker 2: type cognitive dose. So that is something I just started taking that also. Would you? And doing that, 26:51 Speaker 2: that style dosing. 26:53 Speaker 2: I don't have 26:55 Speaker 2: yeah. Yeah, I'm taking 10 minutes. I'm a big dude. I'm six'four, 2 50. So 27:00 Speaker 1: if it says 5 to 10, I take 10. Yeah. Yes. Sorry. Don't judge me people. 27:05 Speaker 2: But again, also oral delivery is the best, right? Experimenting with nasal. 27:09 Speaker 2: And again, more isn't better. It's not going to help 27:13 Speaker 2: the more you do. And in fact, you're just going to, it's almost, 27:17 Speaker 2: you'll have those diminishing returns of just higher side effect potential because all the growth signaling and just not much actual what you want. 27:24 Speaker 2: And again, the stacking 27:26 Speaker 2: well, like Vanalon 27:29 Speaker 2: and Dihexa, I don't see why anybody would not take both of them together. If 27:33 Speaker 2: you're okay, if you're not having cancer present. Okay. NAD mitochondrial and cellular repair, MOTS-0s, MOTS-331Metabolic 27:41 Speaker 2: resilience, 27:42 Speaker 2: mitochondrial protection, 27:43 Speaker 2: and like ATP output, 27:47 Speaker 2: efficiency. 27:48 Speaker 2: Cmax. 27:50 Speaker 2: Cmax is a, you know, neurotransmitter modulator that's gonna kind of bring you up a bit. So when 27:56 Speaker 2: you're designing these new when you're creating these new neurons, it's nice to 28:16 Speaker 1: Can't go wrong. Yeah. So 28:18 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything else I want to touch on on the cancer thing, but this again, folks like early stage 28:25 Speaker 2: of 28:26 Speaker 2: research, 28:27 Speaker 2: there's a lot, 28:29 Speaker 2: even what I'm saying is just a lot of like supposition 28:33 Speaker 2: risk. 28:34 Speaker 1: Risk to the degree. I think that that's how I'm 28:36 Speaker 1: going to say this again because I say it often, but I really think that it puts in perspective well, 28:43 Speaker 1: chips, Doritos, cookies, I think you should worry about those more. I mean, those are we know they cause cancer. I mean, those are just proven to cause cancer. They're horrible for you. Seed oil, sugars, 28:52 Speaker 1: horrible for you. I would worry. I personally will talk to speak for myself, would worry about those a lot more than this. We're just shining a light on some of the things that we've read, we've researched. But I would say that if you do have active cancer and you know it, you shouldn't take this. Makes sense. And I hope you don't eat cookies either. Yeah. We shouldn't do anything else. Don't 29:12 Speaker 1: be here because of sugar. Sugar, please. And do some fasting. So in summary, right to all of these guys, to, 29:19 Speaker 2: if Dihexa is like building new wiring, right? That's what it's for. It's just building the wiring for nail on is more like protecting and maintaining the wiring you already have. 29:28 Speaker 2: Not really a profound statement, but they work hand in hand. 29:34 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, that's right. I like, that's why we were kind of comparing it to the SS-thirty 1 in the MOTS-seventy because MOTS-3s it up and SS-31is 29:42 Speaker 1: going to repair it. So very similar in regards to using it as an example. 29:46 Speaker 2: The practical use is like, look, our friend Paul, like before, so either Dihexa also is not looking, it's not something theoretically you should be able to take a pill and go, feel it. Wow, I feel it. But 29:57 Speaker 2: our friend Paul does that and he thinks it makes a difference. And so 30:03 Speaker 2: just yet more evidence to say, 30:05 Speaker 2: man, everything is just different in every person. Right? He takes 1 of those before he steps on stage. And it's like, we have a video of him being like, yes, full disclosure. I just took (1hexa): 10 mg of Dihexa before I walked up Wanted to take it ever since. Yeah. So, 30:20 Speaker 1: well, he's a if people know anybody that's been following the podcast for, you know, for quite some time will remember when I went through the back surgery and Paul, good friend of ours, is who had given me the protocol for my back with a large doses of the Wolverine blend. 30:35 Speaker 1: And without a doubt, dude knows what he's talking about, man. So we'll listen to him. I mean, my 30:40 Speaker 1: memory sucks, man. I mean, without a doubt, you know, I think both of us will speak for me, have just wounded my head and my noggin by 30:49 Speaker 1: years of drug addiction and just, you know, just 30:53 Speaker 1: not treating my brain well. So as I get older, man, I forget things. Like I used to not have to put things on calendar now. Like I don't put things on calendar, man, I'm forgetting everything. So both of these will do well with memory and things like that and enhancing memory. 31:08 Speaker 1: Why would you not? Yeah. I mean, geez, like we're, you know, I'm 48 years old. Any, any, any step ahead that I can get 31:14 Speaker 1: that it's just literally chains of amino acids. Why would you not? Again, I'm not a big fan of 31:20 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical stuff and doctors prescribing these types of things. These are chains of amino acids. If you can get a leg up with this stuff, why would you not? Or would you not? Yeah. It's true. Not even be that expensive because the amount that you have to take so infrequently. 31:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, 31:34 Speaker 1: it's worth it. Yeah, it's funny. We were talking about this before we were recording and, 31:39 Speaker 1: even though it's not a peptide, but you know, we do TRT and we just do anything that like is intriguing. And I think that what people are like, we should do a Modafinil. That would be a good episode on that. 31:48 Speaker 1: That would be fun. Yeah. That would be fun. Compounded, 31:52 Speaker 1: 1 of my favorites. But yeah, that's great, man. I enjoyed it. I think I just started doing the HEXA. I have not done the Pinealon. 32:00 Speaker 1: I'm always a fat burner type guy, but I've been wanting to Like I said, we've been talking about different things and trying different ones and kind of reporting back and just, you know, so let's do it, man. I'm excited. To kind of do that. So there it is. Good stuff, man. And so 32:17 Speaker 1: what do we have next? What's today? Friday. So we have a couple of things next week. So I 32:21 Speaker 1: think we'll probably have to bust out the Q and A on Monday, which will drop, I think on Thursday, but we have 32:28 Speaker 1: Lee who is 32:29 Speaker 1: a nurse practitioner, good friend of ours, 32:33 Speaker 1: does mine. I want my wife's Botox and a lot of our facials and all the stuff that has worked so well for me. You've seen me post on that, but she's coming in for you ladies. We've had 2 doctors talking about TRT and we get so many of you reaching out about 32:48 Speaker 1: testosterone for the ladies. So she does pellets and she's gonna come in and talk about the TRT for you gals 32:54 Speaker 1: dosages and just things like that. The thing I love about her is that, 32:58 Speaker 1: she travels the world and educates herself. She's always in Africa or here and there, and like just always like 33:05 Speaker 1: in cutting edge type stuff. So I think it's going to be rad to have her on and just talking about some of the stuff that you ladies like to talk about and stuff like that. So it's gonna be cool to see where the conversation goes. Sure. So she's coming in on Tuesday and that will drop on 33:19 Speaker 2: Thursday. Yep. That'll be, it'll, it will be enlightening and interesting because as we know, like women- 33:25 Speaker 2: Do get neglected. 33:27 Speaker 1: In the like- We get so many questions after the TRT. I mean, we touch on it, but both 33:33 Speaker 1: doctors we've had on are obviously leaning more, you know, they're men and they have practices based upon men. I mean, they both have worked a little bit with women, but she works with women. I mean, that's the majority of what she works with. So 33:44 Speaker 1: we're doing this for you ladies. 33:46 Speaker 2: Well, better just easier and simpler, 33:48 Speaker 2: you know, we have a simpler brand, simpler bodies. 33:51 Speaker 2: And all of the fitness stuff just works like, cause we're just meant to be, we're meant to put on muscle and be big and fast and strong and chase down animals and kill them with their bare hands. Right? Like that's just, that's our DNA. 34:03 Speaker 2: So all these other hormonal things, they make that 34:06 Speaker 1: So for women, always say like, feed them, give them sex, tell them they're doing a good job and you have a good, you have a happy man. We're 34:13 Speaker 1: very simple individuals. Then you ladies are like, my wife will send me 19 text messages and I'll answer the 1st question. I'll be like, why don't you chance that I have a question? Well, 34:22 Speaker 2: I'll 34:23 Speaker 1: say yes. It's 34:25 Speaker 1: so different. 34:26 Speaker 1: But then the last thing I want to drop with you guys, because we always get feedback. 34:30 Speaker 1: And Will and I have been talking about different things and enhancing 34:33 Speaker 1: just our business and all things around it. We are thinking about a fitness program 34:40 Speaker 1: that, 34:41 Speaker 1: because we love it. We love fitness. It's the genesis of where we both started in this whole thing was fitness, 34:48 Speaker 1: nutrition, 34:49 Speaker 1: obviously supplement help, 34:51 Speaker 1: fasting stuff that I'll put in there because I love that stuff. And we're thinking about a coaching Warrior Makers coaching program. And 34:57 Speaker 1: also the circle that we will be pulling people off of social media on our own circle to where we'll have some direct 35:05 Speaker 1: Zooms and some things like that for the people that want to, you know, kind of jump on that too. So cool things coming. If that is of interest to you guys, 35:13 Speaker 1: drop us some DMs on any of our channels, we will read them all. We want to hear if you guys would be stoked on that 35:19 Speaker 1: Good stuff? Yep. Good stuff. That's all. All right. We'll see you next round. 35:23 Speaker 1: Take care.