Ep 36 · 39:03
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0:28Speaker 1It's good, man. I went to worked out this morning like normal. My guess, my friend got married,
1:05Speaker 1And it rained hard on us, and I'm quite impressed by my girlfriend driving in the rain. She's pretty good. There you go. She drove in Hawaii like our big ass truck
1:15Speaker 1in the morning rain, and I actually, like, trust her. And I swear to god, like, she's athletic.
1:25Speaker 1She can throw throw very well. Her catching ability is kind of deadened by her not wanting to break a nail when catching a football, but,
1:54Speaker 0Man, just feels great, I lifted a little bit heavier. It felt great. Man, I feel so good. I feel so good. How do you people who don't work out, not work out? Don't
2:13Speaker 1if I'm not feeling right, I'm like, God, I just don't feel good. Right? Go to gym. Probably because I haven't worked out in a couple of days.
2:37Speaker 0I agree. I'm glad you're feeling better, dude. Yeah. You saw some of my worries about it. Man, oh.
2:44Speaker 0For you know, the cool thing, though, the cool thing, you know, and then we'll get into this podcast is, for those of you that struggle and like because I had so many people reach out to me, don't get the surgery. Don't get the surgery. Look at me, man. I it's been a month and I'm lifting at the gym fairly heavy, almost at full capacity, dude. So if you are someone that doesn't I'm a big I'm a fan of surgery. It has done me well. I've had numerous, but I'm telling you, man, it gets me in the gym faster.
3:17Speaker 1Hell, fix me now. If you can fix me, then let's just do it and get it over with. But then again, I've had no bad experiences.
3:23Speaker 1Well, I guess, you know, I guess I had a surgery where they went to I was complaining of, like, I don't know, like a hernia. They thought I maybe had an inguinal hernia. They couldn't find it on a
3:33Speaker 1they couldn't find it using their ultrasound. So they said, Well, that's probably what it is. So they did the surgery.
3:44Speaker 1And the surgeon comes in and goes, Well, we opened you up and we didn't see any hernia.
3:50Speaker 1But we still put metal mesh on both sides of your stomach and lined your stomach with metal mesh.
4:02Speaker 1yeah, it didn't heal anything. So literally, the only thing that healed me was like 5, 6 years later,
4:12Speaker 1I mean, I went to Beverly Hills surgeons, right, and trying to find, like, the best anybody who could heal the issue. And I had what is called a sports hernia. It's not really a hernia. It's just a tendon from my groin that's, like, torn off of my pelvis. Yeah. And 8 weeks of TB-five hundred and some
4:27Speaker 1hip mobility. And literally, I woke up 1 day and was like, Holy shit. This is not there anymore. This does not hurt, and it's been gone ever since. I mean, it hurt me for 10 years. I had to lift my own leg rolling over in bed.
4:41Speaker 1Just becomes the norm, dude. Miracle. Yeah, right. You just I like knew I like gave up. Alright. I'll never jump off 1 foot. I'll never sprint ever again. That's fine.
4:50Speaker 0Entering peptides. Yeah, absolutely. And it healed me. Wonder why everybody's seeking and trying to find them. Because
5:04Speaker 0It's gonna be an episode on that. And we've talked about like Selank and Semax, so we're not gonna talk much about those 2 that would fit within this. So today, we're gonna dip into 3. We're gonna do PE-2228,
5:29Speaker 0Once you start reading into what they do, you're gonna probably wanna take them because they are awesome. They sound awesome. And the more you dig into this, you're like, that sounds great. I should do that. You know what I mean? Especially for people,
6:01Speaker 1Tell us, like always, a little bit about it and why should we take it? Sure. So I guess the 1 thing that we ought to note is, like, all of these we're gonna talk about
6:17Speaker 1pinealon, I don't know, however you wanna say it. Prefer pinealon, but Right. That's how I see it. All 3 of them are,
6:44Speaker 1tub that you get. You're like, Oh, I recognize those 3. 0, you just put those 3 in the chain but
6:56Speaker 0yeah, I mean, my experience, there's nothing, you know, there's nothing side effects, but there's not a whole lot of human trials. Well, think about that. Let's sit there for a 2nd. Like, think about that. So they can't be any worse than the damn pharmaceuticals people are taking. I mean, that stuff's just jacking people up, their guts. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, chains of amino acids, I choose,
7:24Speaker 0So- As you can see, like- like FDA and that means something to you, that's rad. For me, not so much. Not so much. Not so much. Right.
7:55Speaker 1is a very fast acting it's like a synthetic of this protein spaden, except for it works faster and lasts longer.
8:13Speaker 1it essentially makes your neurons that normally like, if you are feeling, I don't know,
8:20Speaker 1not very like, if you're on Xanax and nothing really makes you happy, you know, you know, just kind of dull and gray,
8:29Speaker 1the connections between your neurotransmitters and allow you to, like, wow, see the beauty in things, right? Be happy and laugh. That's huge. Smile.
8:45Speaker 1just like most things. Right? Like, hey, most stimulants, right, there are stimulants. You do a lot, it makes you, like, tired,
9:20Speaker 0I mean, out there, I mean, we deal with it every day because we work in a fitness type industry and
9:26Speaker 0people are overweight, they're out of shape, they eat like crap, and they have no motivation. So if that's somebody that's you, this might be something that's going to maybe light a fire in that motivation. It's going bring up your mood. I mean, so many people struggle
9:46Speaker 0catalyst to it. It doesn't matter. It is. So this would definitely be 1 just because it's going to enhance your mood, mental clarity, neuron growth and repair.
10:11Speaker 1circuit activity booster, I guess, is a phrase that I was looking for, right? So these synapses in your brain are just gonna work better and you're gonna be a lot more reactive to life.
10:25Speaker 1Good way to put it. That's about all I gotta say, man. Like, I don't know. Again, yeah, we work in the fitness business, but also we've spent a lot of time in the treatment
10:39Speaker 1live that life of helping people and going through it ourselves. Like, I know depression,
10:46Speaker 1especially when you took the drugs away, you know, it's crazy how you can be depressed and you may know people say, Oh, well, just get up and, like, do something. And like, Yeah, I understand.
10:55Speaker 1But I'm not going to. I just don't feel like it, and that might help me. You know, so if you are a person going through something like that that you know that's miserable and
11:22Speaker 0There are chains of amino acids. They're so much better for you than some of the medications out there. Now, some people need medication.
11:56Speaker 0we've read some things where nasal spray might be a little better. We've dug into both, so let's go through both. Sure. Nasal,
12:11Speaker 1Right. And a lot of these nootropics, right, that are for your brain, you know why nasal
12:16Speaker 1spray like right here, brain, nose and brain are right there, right? We would think that it'll work better. So that's why a lot of the nootropics
12:26Speaker 1in a nasal spray. Right? But then there are some different arguments saying, like, the mucus in the nose is gonna block a lot of the drug from actually getting to the brain.
12:43Speaker 1I would start low. I'd start at like 100 or 200 micrograms and work your way up. And about 800 micrograms is probably too much
12:54Speaker 1and might start doing the opposite. Instead of making you, you know, happy with a little bit of energy, it might make you a little bit lethargic.
13:02Speaker 0That's the nasal. So sub q, what are you talking about that? Say, I mean, I would top out at about 500 micrograms.
13:22Speaker 1actually, I have I have tried both, but the nasal spray is hard to hard to say because every different little nasal spray bottle
14:00Speaker 0Yeah, I think for somebody that's like battling with depression, you could go right to the 500 micrograms. Because I think that's the big thing. If you're just looking for some enhancement of the mood or just
14:12Speaker 0boost in regards to clarity, maybe start slow. But I think that you could go right to 500 micrograms
14:18Speaker 0for those people that are just depressed, you know, instead of going on the medication, it might
14:30Speaker 0That's good because a lot of peptides will take a little while to compound, you know, so that good to know that this will work quickly because if you're depressed, you want that to work quickly, right? Yes. So that's a good way to put it for sure. So that's awesome. Yeah, PE-2228,
15:56Speaker 1but taking it throughout the day or taking it during the day, even midday, will help the circadian rhythm. So when it's time to go to sleep, they'll go to sleep.
16:05Speaker 0Yeah, that sounds awesome. Okay, it's not gonna just make you drool on yourself like, hey, I'm gonna do this and then down.
16:45Speaker 1Most of those, arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, right? So you'll see that in some of these, like, pump products, right, that boost your NO2, which boosts your
17:07Speaker 1elixir and healer and makes things work, Right? So for pushing a little bit more blood
17:36Speaker 0So if you compare it to the PE 22 28, that's going to boost the mood, and this is going to be more like a protection
17:57Speaker 1right, get as old, feel as old. So if we're having memory problems or you wanna be maybe smarter or
18:05Speaker 1or you're feeling some brain fog, it's worth it's worth a go. Hell yeah. That sounds amazing. Let's talk about some dosages.
18:31Speaker 1The 1 that I am familiar with and I have used is a 20 mg bottle, all right, which is 20000
18:47Speaker 1bacteriostatic water I can possibly get into the bottle, right? So 3 ml, and then I'm injecting
18:56Speaker 1every other day. So my or Monday, Wednesday, Friday, really the same difference. K? Yeah. That's giving me about 600 micrograms.
19:32Speaker 0Because we talk about a lot of the peptides running them for 90 days. This would not be the 1 that 1 of those. You're going to take it for 4 to 6 weeks, take a little bit of time off, then run it again.
19:45Speaker 0right? You've got doses like, hey, let's go into This one's a kind of interesting 1, the Cerebrolysin.
19:53Speaker 0dug into this and the dosages are kind of weird. We'll get to that. But tell us about it. What are some of the
20:04Speaker 1Very so similar to Pinealon, but you gotta think of this 1 so as more of repairing the brain as opposed to protecting
20:28Speaker 1all the electricity grid. Right? And everything is just blown all around. Right? Cerebrolysin
20:33Speaker 1goes in there and doesn't just fix the electricity lines. Right? It goes and fixes everything. It knows how to build rebuild the houses, fix the water lines,
20:50Speaker 1of specific amino acids. So funny thing, and this may scare people, but like it is made from pig brain tissue. Right.
21:20Speaker 1included in that, right? So I can't just tell you there are 3 amino acids that make this up or there are 7.
22:09Speaker 1brain has been damaged in all of those cases and needs to be rebuilt. So that's the goal of cerebralizing.
22:16Speaker 0Which is something that comes up through my DMs in particular, obviously, is Alzheimer's. If you're Alzheimer's
22:50Speaker 0taking a lot of fat burners just because that's what I've been running. But November and December in particular,
23:01Speaker 0the brain, just use this, especially for the Alzheimer's stuff, man. So I have not used it yet. I will report back. But if you're someone like me that has Alzheimer's in your family, man, this is the 1 that you want to run for sure. Yep. A lot of those diseases are genetic.
23:19Speaker 1any family member of a dementia, Right? Any grand somebody's got a grandmother, grandfather's got dementia, or Alzheimer's and, like, say, hey. Not a lot. Should we try this?
23:45Speaker 1brain trauma, we already mentioned these things. I guess I never said the stroke 1, but
23:59Speaker 1The funny thing so the dosing, I guess, this 1 is tough, right? Like we've talked Very tough. Yes. One's definitely an odd. Yeah. You know, you're gonna find research.
24:19Speaker 1this 1 ml is at, right? Usually, what they are it seems to be like there is a baseline. They're saying 1 ml is a concentration of 1 ml will equal 2 15 mg.
24:50Speaker 1I have used and am also gonna really start digging into these things a little bit more. But like I've I'm familiar with the 30 mg bottle, okay? Peptide bottle of 30 mg. Okay?
25:12Speaker 1a day. That's a shit ton. I'm not frankly, I don't know. I'm not willing to do that. That's, like, that's a lot.
25:31Speaker 0So 1 bottle? 1 bottle a day, 30 mg for 10 days in a row. Yeah. And do that about 4 times a year. Which just mathematically for anybody listening would run somewhere in the range of $700 to $800 bucks. But let's just sit there for 1 2nd because
25:54Speaker 0my age, my mom was starting to show signs. I have a really bad memory. So to me, it's worth it. I would do it. I'm going to do it because it's worth it to
26:02Speaker 0try to combat that and stay ahead of it. If your Alzheimer doesn't run-in your family, maybe don't do it because it's gonna be an expensive
26:12Speaker 0But it, you know, it's been known to work with that stuff really well. So for someone like me, I'm going do it. Bro, and have you seen
26:23Speaker 1and I can't really quote a specific percentage, but the increase of of dementia and Alzheimer's cases over the last, like, 30, 40 years here in America? Like, it is crazy. Like,
26:39Speaker 1decline in tons of people. I mean, it's risen by, like, like, 30 fold or something like that. So
26:46Speaker 0not enough. I mean, if you break it down and just be logical, I mean, we breathe shit air, we eat food,
26:51Speaker 0we have diets. I mean, people don't get a lot of sleep. I mean, you can go on and on and on. I mean,
27:12Speaker 0So this type of stuff runs in my family. I have to take care of myself. That's why I work out. That's why I'm so aware
27:29Speaker 0Plus, I mean, I wrestle with these little suckers all the time, man. If I'm overweight and I'm out of shape and stuff, that sucks, man. You know, that's no fun. Yeah, that's no fun.
27:41Speaker 1don't have a child but want 1 of my own. Although, I do have a 9 year old boy at home,
28:06Speaker 0Again, like going off of what Will just said, I mean, just because those things are on the rise,
28:15Speaker 0those are on the rise as well. So if we as humans don't take care of ourself, man, and the Butte,
28:21Speaker 0you can age really well in today's world too, if you do it well, You know, you can age like shit, and you can
28:48Speaker 0cancer's cancer if you end up getting cancer, but you can at least try to combat that stuff by living a different lifestyle, man. You know, don't throw up the white flag now. You know, you're here. And even if you're overweight and you're struggling and whatever,
29:21Speaker 0know? Hell yeah. You're in your 40s and overweight. I'm telling you, I could show you tons and tons and tons of transformations, man. It happens every day. So do it. Change your life, man. Extend your life and add these types of things as well.
29:59Speaker 0What are your thoughts on that? What do you think? Should they compound these or run-in a synergistic
30:08Speaker 1we're all our own experiments, right? And so I would like I do suggest people to take certain things like, hey, 1 at a time. Right? Let's
30:22Speaker 1that's good, but these 3 that we've actually been talking about, they are no they're it's not like they're just straight up redundant and all doing the same thing. They are doing they're all doing some different things in your body, so I have no problem with somebody. It would be beneficial to run all 3 of them at the same time. Right. Totally that's perfect. It's not redundant. You're not wasting your money. It is it's a good idea. If we summarize them like PE 22, 28, okay, it's gonna increase
30:56Speaker 0Repair. Type of injury. Repair. You got the Mood for PE. You got the Cerebrolysin that's going to repair, and then you got the-
31:09Speaker 0there are few different similar things, but in a different way and slightly different. So you could run them together. It would make sense. Absolutely.
31:19Speaker 1right, a lot of these other things we've talked about, right, -1C, NAD, anything that is going to help with cellular repair, right, FOX-four, which is gonna help clean out garbage of your cells, anything cellular repair, mitochondrial energy, right, we're all made up of cells. They all have a mitochondria.
31:46Speaker 1Yeah. If something is repairing and now we are having our cells work better and the mitochondria have more
32:05Speaker 0like for example, what is it? Cerebralisins, 10 days. So you can compound them because they're not going to be run for longer periods either.
32:31Speaker 0that's gonna help you kind of give you an idea of what they do. If you can afford it, try all 3.
32:38Speaker 1also wanted to touch on so Semax and Selank, we have done a video on that, but it is also
32:43Speaker 1we ought to point out those are both new tropics also. It's in the same category. The quick
32:56Speaker 1Neurological energy, so your brain energy. Selank is gonna help with calming. Okay? It's an anxiolytic.
33:15Speaker 1so those 3 are and those 2 are very effective. A lot of the stuff came from Russia. It's all developed in Russia. We use it as an antidepressant.
33:29Speaker 1maybe, like, mood, cognition, daytime focus, and energy. Right? PEG-twenty 2, 28, and Semax in the morning.
34:31Speaker 1Selank also at nighttime to help you relax and help you get to sleep, but again, it's not gonna put you put you to sleep.
34:43Speaker 1Midday. You'll be clear to that then. Midday. Midday is great. Midday is great. Really, I mean, NAD, I probably wouldn't take it at night because some people say, hey, it gives you a little energy, so you don't want that at night. But morning or midday,
35:07Speaker 0stuff, dude. It's good stuff. I love it. Anything else that you wanna cover before we cut this off?
35:39Speaker 1Probably either. I don't know. I mean, I'm still partial- you're new to it and have problems
35:52Speaker 1I don't know, I like just SubQ, can measure your dosing a lot better. A little easier. The nasal is hit or miss just because
36:16Speaker 0Cool, man. Love it. Good stuff. That's a good 1, man. That's a good 1. I'm gonna be running this stack
36:52Speaker 0Hell yeah. I mean, boots on the ground, so to speak, of just talking to people that use these products is amazing.
36:58Speaker 0How they read is great, but how you actually see people and how they respond is the best research you can have. I I've been taking the shampoo. It's great. I'm putting in my beard. I've been putting in my hair. I think it's great.
37:13Speaker 0us old dudes, not gonna bring back the hair, but help from our hair falling out. And older ladies too, you know, I have a lot of gals, hairstylists
37:38Speaker 0Always trying to better products, trying to make everybody's life easier because as I said a 100 times, you can age well, man, and we try to help. That is our goal.
37:58Speaker 0I love all the text messages I Like, dude, this has changed my life. Yeah, the people that like actually, like, don't necessarily have never tried a a peptizer, you know, and then it's crazy because they fall in love, man. They just,
38:10Speaker 0you know, open the floodgates, feel like, these are awesome and like changing their life, man. It really is cool. I love seeing it, man. It's Yeah,
38:24Speaker 1always talked shit and and said negative things. Oh, I'll never do that. And then finally,
38:32Speaker 0I always say in a year, you will be taking them. Trust me. Yeah. That's how fast peptides are growing. You will be taking them in a year. Trust me. Yep.
38:45Speaker 0alright. Well, I guess that's about it, everybody. As always, we enjoyed it, and we'll catch you on the flip side.