Peptide of the Week: PE-22-28, pinealon & Cerebrolysin – Mood, Memory & Brain Repair Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-pe-22-28-pinealon-cerebrolysin-mood-memory-brain-repair/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week, my friends. 0:13 Speaker 0: Welcome back. Welcome back. My name is JD Denim. I'm your host, and always 0:18 Speaker 0: across the way is my good buddy, 0:20 Speaker 0: mister William T. Haws. What's going on, brother? What's up, man? 0:25 Speaker 1: How was your day? How's life? 0:28 Speaker 1: It's good, man. I went to worked out this morning like normal. My guess, my friend got married, 0:34 Speaker 1: my 2 friends, well, on 0:36 Speaker 1: a Tuesday at 0:38 Speaker 1: 02:00PM. 0:41 Speaker 1: Don't you guys work? Yeah. Right. 0:44 Speaker 1: But, well, he's a banker, so 0:47 Speaker 1: he doesn't really work, you know? 0:50 Speaker 1: Know. Well buttons and makes a bunch of money. But 0:54 Speaker 1: that was cool, man. I don't know. I've never experienced Solvang. 0:58 Speaker 1: It's like a little 1:00 Speaker 1: Dutch 1:01 Speaker 1: town in California near Santa Barbara. 1:04 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 1:05 Speaker 1: And it rained hard on us, and I'm quite impressed by my girlfriend driving in the rain. She's pretty good. There you go. She drove in Hawaii like our big ass truck 1:15 Speaker 1: in the morning rain, and I actually, like, trust her. And I swear to god, like, she's athletic. 1:19 Speaker 1: It's actually fun. Like, I she wants to go, like, play catch with me, 1:23 Speaker 1: like, throw a football with me. 1:25 Speaker 1: She can throw throw very well. Her catching ability is kind of deadened by her not wanting to break a nail when catching a football, but, 1:35 Speaker 1: I don't know. I trust her. That's cool. 1:37 Speaker 0: So I'll check that 1 off. Yeah. Exactly. 1:41 Speaker 1: Because we want athletic kids. 1:43 Speaker 0: Good stuff. I did too. I lifted legs today and man, it's been 1 1:47 Speaker 0: month today since I have had my back surgery. And man, I'm amazed how 1:51 Speaker 0: well I have healed. 1:54 Speaker 0: Man, just feels great, I lifted a little bit heavier. It felt great. Man, I feel so good. I feel so good. How do you people who don't work out, not work out? Don't 2:03 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, no shit. Gosh. Right? Gosh, a leader. 2:07 Speaker 1: Wow. Like a freaking lion. Right. A couple of things I learned, you know, that 2:13 Speaker 1: if I'm not feeling right, I'm like, God, I just don't feel good. Right? Go to gym. Probably because I haven't worked out in a couple of days. 2:21 Speaker 1: You know? That just helps my brain live. 2:24 Speaker 1: Also, probably haven't had sex in a couple of days. And 2:28 Speaker 1: both of those, like, cause anxiety and not feeling good. 2:35 Speaker 1: But, yeah, 2:37 Speaker 0: I agree. I'm glad you're feeling better, dude. Yeah. You saw some of my worries about it. Man, oh. 2:44 Speaker 0: For you know, the cool thing, though, the cool thing, you know, and then we'll get into this podcast is, for those of you that struggle and like because I had so many people reach out to me, don't get the surgery. Don't get the surgery. Look at me, man. I it's been a month and I'm lifting at the gym fairly heavy, almost at full capacity, dude. So if you are someone that doesn't I'm a big I'm a fan of surgery. It has done me well. I've had numerous, but I'm telling you, man, it gets me in the gym faster. 3:08 Speaker 0: Works for me, brother. Don't rehurt yourself, please. But I 3:13 Speaker 1: agree. I'm proponent 3:15 Speaker 1: of surgery. 3:17 Speaker 1: Hell, fix me now. If you can fix me, then let's just do it and get it over with. But then again, I've had no bad experiences. 3:23 Speaker 1: Well, I guess, you know, I guess I had a surgery where they went to I was complaining of, like, I don't know, like a hernia. They thought I maybe had an inguinal hernia. They couldn't find it on a 3:33 Speaker 1: they couldn't find it using their ultrasound. So they said, Well, that's probably what it is. So they did the surgery. 3:39 Speaker 1: I woke up. I'm like, Well, pain is still right there, like in the crevice of my groin. 3:44 Speaker 1: And the surgeon comes in and goes, Well, we opened you up and we didn't see any hernia. 3:50 Speaker 1: But we still put metal mesh on both sides of your stomach and lined your stomach with metal mesh. 3:55 Speaker 0: Thanks, doc. 3:56 Speaker 1: I'm like, Well, thanks. 3:58 Speaker 0: I'm sorry. Did I ask for that? Yeah. 4:01 Speaker 1: And 4:02 Speaker 1: yeah, it didn't heal anything. So literally, the only thing that healed me was like 5, 6 years later, 4:07 Speaker 1: I did 9 weeks, 8 weeks of TB-five hundred as well as 4:12 Speaker 1: I mean, I went to Beverly Hills surgeons, right, and trying to find, like, the best anybody who could heal the issue. And I had what is called a sports hernia. It's not really a hernia. It's just a tendon from my groin that's, like, torn off of my pelvis. Yeah. And 8 weeks of TB-five hundred and some 4:27 Speaker 1: hip mobility. And literally, I woke up 1 day and was like, Holy shit. This is not there anymore. This does not hurt, and it's been gone ever since. I mean, it hurt me for 10 years. I had to lift my own leg rolling over in bed. 4:41 Speaker 1: Just becomes the norm, dude. Miracle. Yeah, right. You just I like knew I like gave up. Alright. I'll never jump off 1 foot. I'll never sprint ever again. That's fine. 4:50 Speaker 0: Entering peptides. Yeah, absolutely. And it healed me. Wonder why everybody's seeking and trying to find them. Because 4:56 Speaker 0: they work. 4:58 Speaker 0: They work. Well, that's a good segue into it. So today, 5:01 Speaker 0: my friends, we are going to do an episode on Nootropics. 5:04 Speaker 0: It's gonna be an episode on that. And we've talked about like Selank and Semax, so we're not gonna talk much about those 2 that would fit within this. So today, we're gonna dip into 3. We're gonna do PE-2228, 5:18 Speaker 0: Pinealon, 5:19 Speaker 0: and finally, a Cerebrolysin. 5:22 Speaker 0: So we're gonna do those 3. 5:24 Speaker 0: They're all similar, but they also do different things. 5:29 Speaker 0: Once you start reading into what they do, you're gonna probably wanna take them because they are awesome. They sound awesome. And the more you dig into this, you're like, that sounds great. I should do that. You know what I mean? Especially for people, 5:42 Speaker 0: older people that are getting older, brain fog. 5:46 Speaker 0: Know, for me, Alzheimer's 5:48 Speaker 0: runs in my family, 5:49 Speaker 0: for people like that. So these are gonna be the episodes for you people that, 5:55 Speaker 0: you know, have that in your family. 5:57 Speaker 0: So let's start, Will, let's start with PE-22.28. 6:01 Speaker 1: Tell us, like always, a little bit about it and why should we take it? Sure. So I guess the 1 thing that we ought to note is, like, all of these we're gonna talk about 6:12 Speaker 1: PE-2228 6:14 Speaker 1: cerebrolysin 6:15 Speaker 1: and pinealon, 6:17 Speaker 1: pinealon, I don't know, however you wanna say it. Prefer pinealon, but Right. That's how I see it. All 3 of them are, 6:24 Speaker 1: like, not FDA approved. Okay? And there's still there's not, 6:29 Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of human 6:31 Speaker 1: clinical trials. So these are all 6:35 Speaker 1: still somewhat 6:37 Speaker 1: experimental, 6:38 Speaker 1: although, again, they're just little chains of amino acids that you see 6:41 Speaker 1: on your protein 6:44 Speaker 1: tub that you get. You're like, Oh, I recognize those 3. 0, you just put those 3 in the chain but 6:49 Speaker 1: made them at the right amounts. 6:51 Speaker 1: And holy shit, it signals something in my body to actually help. So, 6:56 Speaker 0: yeah, I mean, my experience, there's nothing, you know, there's nothing side effects, but there's not a whole lot of human trials. Well, think about that. Let's sit there for a 2nd. Like, think about that. So they can't be any worse than the damn pharmaceuticals people are taking. I mean, that stuff's just jacking people up, their guts. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, chains of amino acids, I choose, 7:17 Speaker 0: you know, not FDA chain of amino acids over the pharmaceuticals any day. 100%. 7:23 Speaker 0: Personally. 7:24 Speaker 0: So- As you can see, like- like FDA and that means something to you, that's rad. For me, not so much. Not so much. Not so much. Right. 7:32 Speaker 1: So, 7:33 Speaker 1: okay, so PE-22.28, 7:35 Speaker 1: just think of it 7:37 Speaker 1: as it this 1 is kind of basically an antidepressant. 7:40 Speaker 1: Right? It is focused on changing your actual mood 7:43 Speaker 1: as 7:45 Speaker 1: opposed to the other ones talk about, like, regenerating 7:47 Speaker 1: and repairing 7:49 Speaker 1: or shielding 7:53 Speaker 1: cognitive issues, right? So PE-2228 7:55 Speaker 1: is a very fast acting it's like a synthetic of this protein spaden, except for it works faster and lasts longer. 8:04 Speaker 1: And it will it essentially 8:07 Speaker 1: it's a blocker of this we're not gonna get too scientific here, but 8:13 Speaker 1: it essentially makes your neurons that normally like, if you are feeling, I don't know, 8:18 Speaker 1: not very reactive, 8:20 Speaker 1: not very like, if you're on Xanax and nothing really makes you happy, you know, you know, just kind of dull and gray, 8:27 Speaker 1: it is gonna wake up those 8:29 Speaker 1: the connections between your neurotransmitters and allow you to, like, wow, see the beauty in things, right? Be happy and laugh. That's huge. Smile. 8:38 Speaker 1: And it works pretty fast and it's pretty damn effective. 8:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. So 8:42 Speaker 1: you don't wanna do too much 8:45 Speaker 1: just like most things. Right? Like, hey, most stimulants, right, there are stimulants. You do a lot, it makes you, like, tired, 8:53 Speaker 1: like way too much. So kind of the same thing here. 8:57 Speaker 1: But, yeah, antidepressant is really going 9:00 Speaker 1: help your cognition, 9:02 Speaker 1: help your memory, 9:04 Speaker 1: reduce brain fog like a lot of these others. But really, I'd say mood, 9:08 Speaker 1: increasing 9:09 Speaker 1: happiness, 9:10 Speaker 1: ability to yeah. 9:13 Speaker 0: People that are depressed, 9:15 Speaker 0: people that are struggling with lack of motivation, 9:18 Speaker 0: which is so common. 9:20 Speaker 0: I mean, out there, I mean, we deal with it every day because we work in a fitness type industry and 9:26 Speaker 0: people are overweight, they're out of shape, they eat like crap, and they have no motivation. So if that's somebody that's you, this might be something that's going to maybe light a fire in that motivation. It's going bring up your mood. I mean, so many people struggle 9:39 Speaker 0: with 9:41 Speaker 0: anxiety, stress, depression, regardless of what is the 9:46 Speaker 0: catalyst to it. It doesn't matter. It is. So this would definitely be 1 just because it's going to enhance your mood, mental clarity, neuron growth and repair. 9:55 Speaker 0: That sounds awesome. Yep. Yeah. 10:00 Speaker 0: Supports focus and 10:01 Speaker 0: mental energy. 10:03 Speaker 0: That's huge. 10:04 Speaker 0: What other options? What other things do you like about it? I mean, 10:09 Speaker 1: like 10:11 Speaker 1: circuit activity booster, I guess, is a phrase that I was looking for, right? So these synapses in your brain are just gonna work better and you're gonna be a lot more reactive to life. 10:25 Speaker 1: Good way to put it. That's about all I gotta say, man. Like, I don't know. Again, yeah, we work in the fitness business, but also we've spent a lot of time in the treatment 10:33 Speaker 1: drug alcohol addiction 10:35 Speaker 1: business and maybe not business, but 10:39 Speaker 1: live that life of helping people and going through it ourselves. Like, I know depression, 10:46 Speaker 1: especially when you took the drugs away, you know, it's crazy how you can be depressed and you may know people say, Oh, well, just get up and, like, do something. And like, Yeah, I understand. 10:55 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to. I just don't feel like it, and that might help me. You know, so if you are a person going through something like that that you know that's miserable and 11:06 Speaker 1: I personally would be willing to try something out. 11:10 Speaker 0: Yeah, and myself out of that shit. Yeah, and to be redundant for a reason. 11:15 Speaker 0: Instead of the pharmaceuticals 11:17 Speaker 0: that 11:19 Speaker 0: the doctors are pushing, 11:21 Speaker 0: try this 1st. 11:22 Speaker 0: There are chains of amino acids. They're so much better for you than some of the medications out there. Now, some people need medication. 11:29 Speaker 0: That's between you and your doctor. I'm not saying that. But try this 1st. 11:34 Speaker 0: Enhance your mood. I think the main focus of PE-22.28 11:37 Speaker 0: is 11:38 Speaker 0: the main focus is gonna be enhancing mood. 11:41 Speaker 0: Yeah. If 11:42 Speaker 0: you're depressed, it'll help with that. 11:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's really all I mean, 11:48 Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say on 11:49 Speaker 1: it. I mean, we can talk about dosing. 11:51 Speaker 0: It's- It's a good thing because I know that with our studies of it, 11:56 Speaker 0: we've read some things where nasal spray might be a little better. We've dug into both, so let's go through both. Sure. Nasal, 12:04 Speaker 0: if you're gonna do a nasal, what would you recommend? 12:08 Speaker 1: It's a similar 12:09 Speaker 1: dosing. 12:11 Speaker 1: Right. And a lot of these nootropics, right, that are for your brain, you know why nasal 12:16 Speaker 1: spray like right here, brain, nose and brain are right there, right? We would think that it'll work better. So that's why a lot of the nootropics 12:23 Speaker 1: are sold 12:25 Speaker 1: recommended 12:26 Speaker 1: in a nasal spray. Right? But then there are some different arguments saying, like, the mucus in the nose is gonna block a lot of the drug from actually getting to the brain. 12:35 Speaker 1: But intranasally, 12:37 Speaker 1: I would suggest around 400 micrograms 12:39 Speaker 1: daily. 12:40 Speaker 1: Okay? 400 micrograms daily. 12:43 Speaker 1: I would start low. I'd start at like 100 or 200 micrograms and work your way up. And about 800 micrograms is probably too much 12:54 Speaker 1: and might start doing the opposite. Instead of making you, you know, happy with a little bit of energy, it might make you a little bit lethargic. 13:01 Speaker 0: Yeah. Who wants that? 13:02 Speaker 0: That's the nasal. So sub q, what are you talking about that? Say, I mean, I would top out at about 500 micrograms. 13:11 Speaker 1: Also start 13:12 Speaker 1: at 100 and just kinda slowly work your way up to about 500 micrograms. 13:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. That 13:19 Speaker 1: 1, 13:20 Speaker 1: I have some 13:22 Speaker 1: actually, I have I have tried both, but the nasal spray is hard to hard to say because every different little nasal spray bottle 13:29 Speaker 1: gives a different dose. So I can't really give people specifics on sprays, 13:34 Speaker 1: like number of sprays. But 13:36 Speaker 1: PE 22 28 usually comes in a 10 mg bottle, right, a little 3 mil vial. 13:42 Speaker 1: You add in 2 mls of water Yep. Just 2 full insulin syringes 13:47 Speaker 1: and inject 13:49 Speaker 1: 10 units, 13:50 Speaker 1: that's gonna give you 500. 13:53 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, that's perfect. So maybe start with like 5 units 13:56 Speaker 1: daily and work your way up to 10 units. 14:00 Speaker 0: Yeah, I think for somebody that's like battling with depression, you could go right to the 500 micrograms. Because I think that's the big thing. If you're just looking for some enhancement of the mood or just 14:12 Speaker 0: boost in regards to clarity, maybe start slow. But I think that you could go right to 500 micrograms 14:18 Speaker 0: for those people that are just depressed, you know, instead of going on the medication, it might 14:23 Speaker 0: work well to just jump right to it, in my opinion, 10 years. And 14:26 Speaker 1: it works pretty fast. 14:28 Speaker 1: Do it daily for a week. 14:30 Speaker 0: That's good because a lot of peptides will take a little while to compound, you know, so that good to know that this will work quickly because if you're depressed, you want that to work quickly, right? Yes. So that's a good way to put it for sure. So that's awesome. Yeah, PE-2228, 14:44 Speaker 0: I have not taken it, but I will soon. 14:47 Speaker 0: Let's jump into Pinealon. 14:51 Speaker 1: Pinealon, like- Yeah, 14:53 Speaker 1: what is it? So it is act- so Pinealon can be- is a bioregulator. 14:59 Speaker 1: Right? 15:01 Speaker 1: It's a really fast acting and tiny little peptide chain 15:06 Speaker 1: and can cross the blood brain barrier pretty fast. 15:11 Speaker 1: And it 15:12 Speaker 1: I guess, of it is there to protect your 15:16 Speaker 1: brain cells and neurons. 15:18 Speaker 1: All right? And it is also So 15:22 Speaker 1: PE-2228 15:23 Speaker 1: was for, 15:24 Speaker 1: yeah, mood, elevating happiness. 15:27 Speaker 1: Pinealon is more for protecting your cognition, 15:32 Speaker 1: lifting brain fog, giving you more mental clarity, more mental air energy. 15:38 Speaker 1: And lots of people are using it. It helps with your circadian rhythm. 15:43 Speaker 1: So I know that lots of people are using it for 15:46 Speaker 1: sleep 15:48 Speaker 1: even though 15:49 Speaker 1: it may give you I mean, 15:52 Speaker 1: I don't really say taking it at nighttime, 15:56 Speaker 1: but taking it throughout the day or taking it during the day, even midday, will help the circadian rhythm. So when it's time to go to sleep, they'll go to sleep. 16:05 Speaker 0: Yeah, that sounds awesome. Okay, it's not gonna just make you drool on yourself like, hey, I'm gonna do this and then down. 16:11 Speaker 0: Thank you. Good for memory. 16:13 Speaker 0: Good for memory. It's good for focus. 16:15 Speaker 0: That's for someone like me, man, memory. My memory is shot. We've abused our brains, 16:20 Speaker 0: So me in 16:22 Speaker 0: just that type of thing, clarity. Again, 16:25 Speaker 0: cellular longevity. 16:26 Speaker 0: Yep. Yeah. So kind of an anti age or 2, 16:29 Speaker 0: anti aging. 16:31 Speaker 1: So 16:32 Speaker 1: again, is made up of 3 amino acids, 16:36 Speaker 1: glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and arginine. 16:39 Speaker 1: Okay? If you look at your protein or your pre workout, you're gonna see those words. 16:45 Speaker 1: Most of those, arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, right? So you'll see that in some of these, like, pump products, right, that boost your NO2, which boosts your 16:54 Speaker 1: vascularity 16:55 Speaker 1: and blood flow through your veins. 16:58 Speaker 1: And same with, like, you'll see D aspartic acid 17:01 Speaker 1: in pre workouts as well. So 17:05 Speaker 1: blood is God's 17:07 Speaker 1: elixir and healer and makes things work, Right? So for pushing a little bit more blood 17:13 Speaker 1: into the brain, it 17:16 Speaker 1: helps carry more transmissions and helps better health and more clarity, etcetera. 17:22 Speaker 1: So it's crazy, right? It's just these 3 common amino acids. 17:26 Speaker 1: Yet 17:28 Speaker 1: put together, right, at the right amounts in the right chain, 17:32 Speaker 1: they signal the brain to do a whole lot of good things. 17:36 Speaker 0: So if you compare it to the PE 22 28, that's going to boost the mood, and this is going to be more like a protection 17:43 Speaker 0: of the brain? Yeah. Yes. 17:45 Speaker 1: Protection Break down, like, them. Protection regeneration 17:50 Speaker 1: of 17:51 Speaker 1: your neurotransmitters 17:54 Speaker 1: so you won't 17:56 Speaker 1: cognitively, 17:57 Speaker 1: right, get as old, feel as old. So if we're having memory problems or you wanna be maybe smarter or 18:03 Speaker 1: you're getting a little bit old 18:05 Speaker 1: or you're feeling some brain fog, it's worth it's worth a go. Hell yeah. That sounds amazing. Let's talk about some dosages. 18:13 Speaker 0: What's the doses on this? Okay. So 18:16 Speaker 1: it's gonna be you're gonna be taking a pretty small dose of this. So to be I 18:22 Speaker 1: would say about 600 micrograms 18:24 Speaker 1: 3 days a week. Okay? 18:27 Speaker 1: So 600 micrograms Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 18:31 Speaker 1: The 1 that I am familiar with and I have used is a 20 mg bottle, all right, which is 20000 18:38 Speaker 1: micrograms 18:39 Speaker 1: in a 3ml bottle. 18:41 Speaker 1: So 18:43 Speaker 1: my what I've done is I put in 3 mils, right, which is the most possible 18:47 Speaker 1: bacteriostatic water I can possibly get into the bottle, right? So 3 ml, and then I'm injecting 18:54 Speaker 1: 5 units 18:56 Speaker 1: every other day. So my or Monday, Wednesday, Friday, really the same difference. K? Yeah. That's giving me about 600 micrograms. 19:04 Speaker 1: K? You can, if you're willing to I mean, in 5 units is, 19:08 Speaker 1: like not much, right? 100 or 10. You could do 0.5 of that and do it every day 19:15 Speaker 1: if you- If you can get 0.5. If you can get 0.5. Really, 19:18 Speaker 1: really hard. Yeah. And I would say, so 4 to 6 weeks on 19:23 Speaker 1: and maybe 2 weeks to a month off. 19:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, you brought everybody's just got to try it out, see what works. 19:31 Speaker 1: Yeah. 19:32 Speaker 0: Because we talk about a lot of the peptides running them for 90 days. This would not be the 1 that 1 of those. You're going to take it for 4 to 6 weeks, take a little bit of time off, then run it again. 19:42 Speaker 0: Contingent upon like, you know, what you're trying to accomplish, 19:45 Speaker 0: right? You've got doses like, hey, let's go into This one's a kind of interesting 1, the Cerebrolysin. 19:50 Speaker 0: This one's interesting because we 19:53 Speaker 0: dug into this and the dosages are kind of weird. We'll get to that. But tell us about it. What are some of the 20:00 Speaker 0: benefits of it? 20:02 Speaker 1: Okay, benefits. 20:04 Speaker 1: Very so similar to Pinealon, but you gotta think of this 1 so as more of repairing the brain as opposed to protecting 20:12 Speaker 1: the brain. Okay? 20:14 Speaker 1: A good analogy is, right, if you have a city, big hurricane came and 20:20 Speaker 1: killed all the 20:22 Speaker 1: knocked over all the buildings, 20:24 Speaker 1: killed the destroyed all the piping for water and destroyed 20:28 Speaker 1: all the electricity grid. Right? And everything is just blown all around. Right? Cerebrolysin 20:33 Speaker 1: goes in there and doesn't just fix the electricity lines. Right? It goes and fixes everything. It knows how to build rebuild the houses, fix the water lines, 20:42 Speaker 1: fix the electric lines. So they call it like a multimodal 20:46 Speaker 1: therapy. 20:47 Speaker 1: It is not just a very specific sequence 20:50 Speaker 1: of specific amino acids. So funny thing, and this may scare people, but like it is made from pig brain tissue. Right. 20:58 Speaker 1: And 21:00 Speaker 1: is so it's not recreated in the lab. 21:05 Speaker 1: Some of it might be, but 21:09 Speaker 1: that may be worth a fact check. 21:13 Speaker 1: But 21:15 Speaker 1: basically, there's 21:17 Speaker 1: several 21:18 Speaker 1: peptides 21:20 Speaker 1: included in that, right? So I can't just tell you there are 3 amino acids that make this up or there are 7. 21:26 Speaker 1: It comes from 21:28 Speaker 1: functional 21:30 Speaker 1: peak brain tissue, there's several different peptides that are working 21:34 Speaker 1: in conjunction, okay, to help repair all 21:37 Speaker 1: of your brain. So really, 21:40 Speaker 1: are conducting 21:41 Speaker 1: studies and have finished a few on 21:44 Speaker 1: any type of 21:45 Speaker 1: brain regenerative 21:47 Speaker 1: I mean, degenerative 21:48 Speaker 1: diseases. So like 21:50 Speaker 1: Alzheimer's 21:54 Speaker 1: Come on, what are some other damn names of 21:57 Speaker 1: dementia, 21:59 Speaker 1: traumatic 22:00 Speaker 1: brain injuries, 22:01 Speaker 1: right, recovery from all of those things? So 22:05 Speaker 1: that's where it's being studied because your 22:09 Speaker 1: brain has been damaged in all of those cases and needs to be rebuilt. So that's the goal of cerebralizing. 22:16 Speaker 0: Which is something that comes up through my DMs in particular, obviously, is Alzheimer's. If you're Alzheimer's 22:22 Speaker 0: or dementia, 22:24 Speaker 0: if you're somebody that has it in your family, I'll use myself as an example. 22:28 Speaker 0: My grandpa 22:30 Speaker 0: didn't even remember his family. He had such bad Alzheimer's. 22:34 Speaker 0: My mom, 22:35 Speaker 0: oddly enough, 22:37 Speaker 0: passed away in a car accident at my age. I'm 48, and 22:41 Speaker 0: she was starting to show science herself. So naturally, 22:45 Speaker 0: this would be 1 that perks my brain. I have been in the last few months 22:50 Speaker 0: taking a lot of fat burners just because that's what I've been running. But November and December in particular, 22:56 Speaker 0: I'm going after these 22:59 Speaker 0: types just to kind of reboot 23:01 Speaker 0: the brain, just use this, especially for the Alzheimer's stuff, man. So I have not used it yet. I will report back. But if you're someone like me that has Alzheimer's in your family, man, this is the 1 that you want to run for sure. Yep. A lot of those diseases are genetic. 23:16 Speaker 1: So 23:17 Speaker 1: I mean, ask 23:19 Speaker 1: any family member of a dementia, Right? Any grand somebody's got a grandmother, grandfather's got dementia, or Alzheimer's and, like, say, hey. Not a lot. Should we try this? 23:29 Speaker 1: Probably. 23:30 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Hell yeah. There's not much that's gonna go wrong with it, and it's worth 23:37 Speaker 1: a damn try. 23:39 Speaker 1: So, 23:41 Speaker 1: yeah, it is I mean, strokes 23:44 Speaker 1: recovering from stroke, 23:45 Speaker 1: brain trauma, we already mentioned these things. I guess I never said the stroke 1, but 23:50 Speaker 1: it is going to repair 23:52 Speaker 1: your brain after some type of stress or injury 23:57 Speaker 1: or genetic potential disorder. 23:59 Speaker 1: The funny thing so the dosing, I guess, this 1 is tough, right? Like we've talked Very tough. Yes. One's definitely an odd. Yeah. You know, you're gonna find research. 24:09 Speaker 1: Everybody's referring to 1 just take 1 ml. 24:13 Speaker 1: Okay? Well, what the hell does that mean? That doesn't mean anything 24:16 Speaker 1: unless you tell me what, like, concentration 24:19 Speaker 1: this 1 ml is at, right? Usually, what they are it seems to be like there is a baseline. They're saying 1 ml is a concentration of 1 ml will equal 2 15 mg. 24:31 Speaker 1: Okay? 24:32 Speaker 1: Have seen 24:34 Speaker 1: studies and doctors that are giving this at 5 mils a day, right, which is about 1000 24:42 Speaker 1: mg. 24:44 Speaker 1: That's a shit ton. Okay? I've seen bottles like I am using. 24:50 Speaker 1: I have used and am also gonna really start digging into these things a little bit more. But like I've I'm familiar with the 30 mg bottle, okay? Peptide bottle of 30 mg. Okay? 25:03 Speaker 1: That is 3 so 30 mg is 3000 25:07 Speaker 1: micrograms, but we're talking 25:10 Speaker 1: 1000 mg. So it's 33 bottles 25:12 Speaker 1: a day. That's a shit ton. I'm not frankly, I don't know. I'm not willing to do that. That's, like, that's a lot. 25:19 Speaker 1: Unless you're rich. Yeah. Unless you're really rich, then cool, do it. 25:24 Speaker 1: My suggestion and what I do, what I would do is 25:28 Speaker 1: is aim for about 30 mg a day. 25:31 Speaker 0: So 1 bottle? 1 bottle a day, 30 mg for 10 days in a row. Yeah. And do that about 4 times a year. Which just mathematically for anybody listening would run somewhere in the range of $700 to $800 bucks. But let's just sit there for 1 2nd because 25:47 Speaker 0: I'll use again myself as an example. Alzheimer's runs in my family. 25:52 Speaker 0: Like, you know, at 25:54 Speaker 0: my age, my mom was starting to show signs. I have a really bad memory. So to me, it's worth it. I would do it. I'm going to do it because it's worth it to 26:02 Speaker 0: try to combat that and stay ahead of it. If your Alzheimer doesn't run-in your family, maybe don't do it because it's gonna be an expensive 26:09 Speaker 0: protocol. 26:12 Speaker 0: But it, you know, it's been known to work with that stuff really well. So for someone like me, I'm going do it. Bro, and have you seen 26:21 Speaker 1: the 26:23 Speaker 1: and I can't really quote a specific percentage, but the increase of of dementia and Alzheimer's cases over the last, like, 30, 40 years here in America? Like, it is crazy. Like, 26:34 Speaker 1: there's obviously 26:36 Speaker 1: something going on that is leading to our mental, 26:39 Speaker 1: decline in tons of people. I mean, it's risen by, like, like, 30 fold or something like that. So 26:46 Speaker 0: not enough. I mean, if you break it down and just be logical, I mean, we breathe shit air, we eat food, 26:51 Speaker 0: we have diets. I mean, people don't get a lot of sleep. I mean, you can go on and on and on. I mean, 26:57 Speaker 0: it's easy math, man. It makes sense logically. 27:00 Speaker 1: That's 27:02 Speaker 0: why, 27:03 Speaker 0: for me, for example, it's so important. I have a 4 year old and I have an 18 old. 27:08 Speaker 0: My goal is obviously to see them grow old themselves. 27:12 Speaker 0: So this type of stuff runs in my family. I have to take care of myself. That's why I work out. That's why I'm so aware 27:18 Speaker 0: of how I eat and all that stuff. And 27:22 Speaker 0: being overweight at my age is not gonna work with a 4 year old and an 18 old man. 27:29 Speaker 0: Plus, I mean, I wrestle with these little suckers all the time, man. If I'm overweight and I'm out of shape and stuff, that sucks, man. You know, that's no fun. Yeah, that's no fun. 27:38 Speaker 1: You better be young. Hell, I'm getting old too and 27:41 Speaker 1: don't have a child but want 1 of my own. Although, I do have a 9 year old boy at home, 27:48 Speaker 1: but he's not mine, and I better be able to run around with him. 27:51 Speaker 1: I still smoke him in a race backwards, but so that's good. 27:56 Speaker 0: And never long. Yeah, Bryce. 28:00 Speaker 1: Start beating me at longer distances 1st, but 28:04 Speaker 1: he's got a while. 28:06 Speaker 0: Again, like going off of what Will just said, I mean, just because those things are on the rise, 28:12 Speaker 0: know, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, 28:15 Speaker 0: those are on the rise as well. So if we as humans don't take care of ourself, man, and the Butte, 28:21 Speaker 0: you can age really well in today's world too, if you do it well, You know, you can age like shit, and you can 28:29 Speaker 0: have those types of problems, 28:31 Speaker 0: or you could live a very healthy lifestyle, 28:34 Speaker 0: diet, 28:35 Speaker 0: exercise, 28:37 Speaker 0: peptides, 28:38 Speaker 0: you know, all of that hormone 28:40 Speaker 0: replacement. 28:42 Speaker 0: That's very key in regards to aging. 28:45 Speaker 0: You don't have to age like shit. Now, 28:48 Speaker 0: cancer's cancer if you end up getting cancer, but you can at least try to combat that stuff by living a different lifestyle, man. You know, don't throw up the white flag now. You know, you're here. And even if you're overweight and you're struggling and whatever, 29:01 Speaker 0: you're still here. Shit, man. Now's the Man, change it today, man. Change it today. 29:06 Speaker 0: You know? We 29:07 Speaker 0: have a very Will and I, just because of what we do, 29:12 Speaker 0: working with people in regards to health, nutrition, all that stuff, 29:16 Speaker 0: we've seen radical transformations, 29:18 Speaker 0: man. Now, it's not easy, but it's possible, 29:21 Speaker 0: know? Hell yeah. You're in your 40s and overweight. I'm telling you, I could show you tons and tons and tons of transformations, man. It happens every day. So do it. Change your life, man. Extend your life and add these types of things as well. 29:35 Speaker 0: We're obviously Now, a big fan of 29:37 Speaker 0: let's talk really quickly, because I know we've talked about this 29:42 Speaker 0: off camera, 29:44 Speaker 0: about compounding them. 29:46 Speaker 0: We've dug into that a little bit, 29:49 Speaker 0: so let's dig into that. So should 29:51 Speaker 0: people 29:53 Speaker 0: use multiple, 29:54 Speaker 0: like should they use all 3, or should they even add in a C Max and Selank? 29:59 Speaker 0: What are your thoughts on that? What do you think? Should they compound these or run-in a synergistic 30:03 Speaker 0: order? 30:04 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess, you know, part of me says 30:08 Speaker 1: we're all our own experiments, right? And so I would like I do suggest people to take certain things like, hey, 1 at a time. Right? Let's 30:16 Speaker 1: take 1 thing for a month. Let's see what that specifically does. And 30:22 Speaker 1: that's good, but these 3 that we've actually been talking about, they are no they're it's not like they're just straight up redundant and all doing the same thing. They are doing they're all doing some different things in your body, so I have no problem with somebody. It would be beneficial to run all 3 of them at the same time. Right. Totally that's perfect. It's not redundant. You're not wasting your money. It is it's a good idea. If we summarize them like PE 22, 28, okay, it's gonna increase 30:49 Speaker 1: increase MOTS. Alright? Yep. In a good way. The Cerebrolysin 30:54 Speaker 1: is gonna recover 30:55 Speaker 1: your brain 30:56 Speaker 0: Repair. Type of injury. Repair. You got the Mood for PE. You got the Cerebrolysin that's going to repair, and then you got the- 31:04 Speaker 1: The nail on which- to 31:06 Speaker 1: protect. 31:07 Speaker 1: Protect. 31:08 Speaker 0: So 31:09 Speaker 0: there are few different similar things, but in a different way and slightly different. So you could run them together. It would make sense. Absolutely. 31:16 Speaker 1: Then adding in, 31:19 Speaker 1: right, a lot of these other things we've talked about, right, -1C, NAD, anything that is going to help with cellular repair, right, FOX-four, which is gonna help clean out garbage of your cells, anything cellular repair, mitochondrial energy, right, we're all made up of cells. They all have a mitochondria. 31:35 Speaker 1: And if we can increase the integrity 31:37 Speaker 1: and, 31:39 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, the ability 31:41 Speaker 1: of all of those, 31:43 Speaker 1: it'll contribute 31:45 Speaker 1: to this. 31:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. If something is repairing and now we are having our cells work better and the mitochondria have more 31:53 Speaker 1: active and stronger, it's just going to repair bigger, better, faster. 31:57 Speaker 0: Well, some of these 2 are not like 32:00 Speaker 0: the secretagars 32:01 Speaker 0: or whatnot, where we say take them for 90 days, give or take. These, 32:05 Speaker 0: like for example, what is it? Cerebralisins, 10 days. So you can compound them because they're not going to be run for longer periods either. 32:13 Speaker 0: So makes sense. NAD is always that good at adding almost any stack. 32:17 Speaker 0: It is. It is. Obviously, 32:19 Speaker 0: BPC-157, 32:21 Speaker 0: I mean, dude, that could be around with literally anything and enhance But 32:26 Speaker 0: yeah, I think that's great, man. I think, 32:28 Speaker 0: hopefully, 32:29 Speaker 0: anybody listening 32:31 Speaker 0: that's gonna help you kind of give you an idea of what they do. If you can afford it, try all 3. 32:36 Speaker 1: And I have we 32:38 Speaker 1: also wanted to touch on so Semax and Selank, we have done a video on that, but it is also 32:43 Speaker 1: we ought to point out those are both new tropics also. It's in the same category. The quick 32:51 Speaker 1: benefit of those things is so Cmax is gonna help with energy, right? 32:56 Speaker 1: Neurological energy, so your brain energy. Selank is gonna help with calming. Okay? It's an anxiolytic. 33:04 Speaker 1: Think of it as maybe like the anti anxiety. 33:06 Speaker 1: Like, it was like a Xanax without narcotic. 33:09 Speaker 1: Yep. Without narcotics and without drooling on yourself and blacking out. 33:14 Speaker 1: And 33:15 Speaker 1: so those 3 are and those 2 are very effective. A lot of the stuff came from Russia. It's all developed in Russia. We use it as an antidepressant. 33:21 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely. Crazy. 33:23 Speaker 1: I would say 33:27 Speaker 1: some quick stacks for 33:29 Speaker 1: maybe, like, mood, cognition, daytime focus, and energy. Right? PEG-twenty 2, 28, and Semax in the morning. 33:36 Speaker 1: Alright. Pinealon, 33:38 Speaker 1: midday, 33:39 Speaker 1: and some Selank, 33:41 Speaker 1: hell, and DSIP at night. 33:44 Speaker 1: There you go, baby. That The sounds 33:46 Speaker 1: Pinealon, interesting enough, I would say in the morning. It helps I mean, in midday. 33:50 Speaker 1: Help with circadian 33:52 Speaker 1: rhythm and that midday brain fog. 33:55 Speaker 1: Some other, like, post stress recovery, 33:58 Speaker 1: Cerebrolysin 34:00 Speaker 1: and Semax in the morning. 34:03 Speaker 1: Pinealon midday, 34:05 Speaker 1: evening, Selank, DSIP, and then, 34:08 Speaker 1: I don't know, you can always add in MOTS c s s 31 34:12 Speaker 1: also. So recovery, 34:16 Speaker 1: those are and I guess just think of 34:19 Speaker 1: so relaxing, 34:22 Speaker 1: Pinealon, 34:23 Speaker 1: Selank are great 34:25 Speaker 1: to take just to relax in midday, and it's okay to 34:29 Speaker 1: you're not gonna fall asleep immediately. 34:31 Speaker 1: Selank also at nighttime to help you relax and help you get to sleep, but again, it's not gonna put you put you to sleep. 34:38 Speaker 1: So those are just some pairs some pairs. NAD can be added to any of these things. 34:43 Speaker 1: Midday. You'll be clear to that then. Midday. Midday is great. Midday is great. Really, I mean, NAD, I probably wouldn't take it at night because some people say, hey, it gives you a little energy, so you don't want that at night. But morning or midday, 34:55 Speaker 1: I think it's a great strategy. 34:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34:58 Speaker 0: Thinking through it, obviously, like what Will just said, putting 35:02 Speaker 0: thought into it is 35:04 Speaker 0: where it's going to shine the most, man. 35:06 Speaker 0: So good 35:07 Speaker 0: stuff, dude. It's good stuff. I love it. Anything else that you wanna cover before we cut this off? 35:14 Speaker 1: I 35:15 Speaker 1: guess the add on to the PE-2228, 35:17 Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this, but like, let's start low. 35:20 Speaker 1: That stuff works fast and is very, very effective. And so why don't you start low and 35:27 Speaker 1: work your way up? 35:29 Speaker 1: Don't do too much. 35:31 Speaker 1: Don't do too much right from the get go. 35:34 Speaker 0: Would you recommend the SubQ or the nasal? 35:38 Speaker 0: Probably either. 35:39 Speaker 1: Probably either. I don't know. I mean, I'm still partial- you're new to it and have problems 35:44 Speaker 0: with syringes, go with the nasal. 35:46 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start there. If you're unwilling to inject, then do the nasal. 35:50 Speaker 1: But 35:52 Speaker 1: I don't know, I like just SubQ, can measure your dosing a lot better. A little easier. The nasal is hit or miss just because 36:00 Speaker 1: unless you buy it from a place that tells you, like, exactly 36:05 Speaker 1: how much you are getting in 1 spray of their specific, 36:08 Speaker 1: you know, nasal spray canister and if they are correct about that. 36:14 Speaker 1: True that. Yeah. 36:16 Speaker 0: Cool, man. Love it. Good stuff. That's a good 1, man. That's a good 1. I'm gonna be running this stack 36:23 Speaker 0: November 36:23 Speaker 0: and December. I'm excited. 36:27 Speaker 1: We're gonna come out with 36:30 Speaker 1: gonna be doing some legitimate 36:32 Speaker 1: case studies too 36:35 Speaker 1: with 36:36 Speaker 1: some people in various different peptides and also 36:41 Speaker 1: some different cosmetic problem products. 36:44 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see some of these results of specific, 36:49 Speaker 1: detailed, 36:50 Speaker 1: over time studies. 36:52 Speaker 0: Hell yeah. I mean, boots on the ground, so to speak, of just talking to people that use these products is amazing. 36:58 Speaker 0: How they read is great, but how you actually see people and how they respond is the best research you can have. I I've been taking the shampoo. It's great. I'm putting in my beard. I've been putting in my hair. I think it's great. 37:11 Speaker 0: If it can help 37:13 Speaker 0: us old dudes, not gonna bring back the hair, but help from our hair falling out. And older ladies too, you know, I have a lot of gals, hairstylists 37:22 Speaker 0: that I have friends with that have reached out about the shampoo and they can't wait. 37:26 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, for women, right? What's worse than a man 37:30 Speaker 1: going bald? It's a woman going bald, probably. True that. Yeah. True that, dude. 37:35 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah. 37:38 Speaker 0: Always trying to better products, trying to make everybody's life easier because as I said a 100 times, you can age well, man, and we try to help. That is our goal. 37:47 Speaker 1: We have a passion for it. 37:49 Speaker 1: So good stuff. We have passion for it and the stuff works and it's exciting and 37:55 Speaker 1: it's really amazing to see. 37:58 Speaker 0: I love all the text messages I Like, dude, this has changed my life. Yeah, the people that like actually, like, don't necessarily have never tried a a peptizer, you know, and then it's crazy because they fall in love, man. They just, 38:10 Speaker 0: you know, open the floodgates, feel like, these are awesome and like changing their life, man. It really is cool. I love seeing it, man. It's Yeah, 38:18 Speaker 0: and all the- Look alike. For a reason. Called previous like haters, 38:22 Speaker 1: right, who've 38:23 Speaker 1: always 38:24 Speaker 1: always talked shit and and said negative things. Oh, I'll never do that. And then finally, 38:28 Speaker 1: they hear too much, they do it and they're like, oh, shit. This is amazing. 38:32 Speaker 0: I always say in a year, you will be taking them. Trust me. Yeah. That's how fast peptides are growing. You will be taking them in a year. Trust me. Yep. 38:40 Speaker 0: You know I mean? 38:41 Speaker 0: Right on, man. Well, that's good stuff, brother. Well, 38:45 Speaker 0: alright. Well, I guess that's about it, everybody. As always, we enjoyed it, and we'll catch you on the flip side. 38:50 Speaker 0: That's all we got. 38:52 Speaker 1: Peace out.