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0:15Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay, big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
0:22Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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1:04Speaker 3Friday. Like always, it's never not a busy Friday. We've been going through a lot, but life's
1:24Speaker 4So I'm waiting for that. It's been a while too. It's been a little, I should have it now. And then I've been thinking about, like, we've gone to Hawaii every year for the last 3 years.
1:38Speaker 4River, the 9 year old. And he, so we had a blast. My mother actually is like a free spirit. So when we said, hey, can you like watch him for the day? And so what River wants to do is run around the little lazy thing and jump off the rocks where it says, do not jump off the rocks. Of course. And so Allie's always complaining at him. We leave my leave in with my mom
2:00Speaker 4and we come back. They come back 2 hours later and my mom has been like, okay, so I tested it out.
2:09Speaker 4I taught him how to do flips. So he's good. He's like, say he's doing the flips into the water off of the rocks.
2:21Speaker 4I don't obey rules unless they make sense. And that's what I was taught. That's how I was taught. Like Love that. You don't obey any rule
2:28Speaker 4if it doesn't make any sense. So see a trespassing sign? That just means it's probably a cool place to be. These people aren't using the land. Like, because we just went camping for my whole everyone.
2:39Speaker 3Yeah. She's such a good spirit. She's she's a good her vibe, she's got my my wife's vibe. It's just she just lights up a room. She does. She's a
2:48Speaker 4good human. She's negative. Nothing negative. My father told me once, he's like, you know, you ever notice for all the faults and what I complain about your mother is
2:57Speaker 4try to remember. I still have never heard her say 1 bad thing about any person, about anything.
3:03Speaker 4Like she doesn't complain. She doesn't go, this is a stupid commercial. Yeah, rare. And I thought about it, I'm like, God damn, that's pretty hard to literally
3:16Speaker 3But yeah, right. It is kind of crazy, but like dude, I get it. You know who I know that like that is, Scott, Doctor. Scott.
3:24Speaker 3known him most of my life. Never heard him say 1 negative thing about anybody. You're right. You're right. Their conversations we've, I think we've had conversations where something like, Oh, this bad. And he doesn't like partake in that. Yeah. If he goes, people talking shitty, he dips out.
3:39Speaker 4Okay. Good for him. So anyway, what's going on? Don't know where that came from, but yeah, my mom teaches him how to do the flips and Allie's like, oh,
3:50Speaker 4officially, like, enrolled in school, a block from our house. Sweet. Because she came from like RSM,
3:55Speaker 4Rancho Santa Margarita, which is 45 minutes away. Does his school, his like his private school. And,
4:02Speaker 4it's a pain in the ass. Like it puts everybody in a bad mood. You gotta commute 45 minutes there and back. I can do it. Plus it lowers the time at home to do homework and have fun. Right? So this is like sports home, homework bed. Right? That's no and then it just raises everybody's stress levels. Plus I
4:20Speaker 4did this. I went to a private school in junior high and they gave us a 300 page packet of homework to do over the summer.
4:28Speaker 4he's a kid. Like, so the amount of homework this 9 year old brings home every day is And
4:42Speaker 4that's nuts. We should have let a kid be a kid more. Like, that's stupid. Yeah. So there's too much damn homework. So anyway, he will do a lot better. He'll, for the 1st time, have a community and like a neighborhood
4:54Speaker 4vibe, right? Like play sports with the kids he goes to school with, not just be a commuter.
4:58Speaker 4That's what I did in private school and I hated it until I finally got to go to a public school in high school.
5:06Speaker 4but I got to do it. I got to, you know, play sports against people who were actually good and
5:10Speaker 4in this be back with the neighborhood and have a real sense of community. That's exciting. Riding bikes, come home when the lights come on. Yeah.
5:18Speaker 4Those stories are legit. It was like, was like, that's what you can do. Got them actually a motor scooter just now. It's in my, it's in the office, hidden with a blanket over it. If he's a dangerous dude. Holy shit. Kids in my neighborhood,
5:31Speaker 3Those are cars, man. They don't know how to drive them. They're all over the road. I'm like, dude, I've always like numerous times. Scare the crap. Yeah, it is crazy.
5:44Speaker 4He, Albert, had no chance in hell getting in the e bike. He barely can ride a bike. He just learned how to ride a bike. Right. His dad never taught him how to ride a bike. He was
5:54Speaker 4I bought him a bike too 1 time to try to teach him and he didn't wanna do it. And that night, I gave it to the poor kids down the street.
6:26Speaker 4At least she told you. Yeah. At least you told me. You probably would've. It probably would've. And then like, well, it's a perfect way to do it. So she works in a restaurant too, so I think that's all she sees a lot. So I don't know. Maybe I'll wait till her Hawaii, but that-
6:42Speaker 3you know, and then like, I didn't have, I think I've told you this, but I didn't have people there to film and her family wanted me to. I'm like, not my style, man. I just wanted to propose.
6:51Speaker 3And I think I told you this, but, when I had proposed, I was nervous as hell. I knew she was gonna say yes, but I was still nervous. Got down on my knee, walking at a crystal cove. Nobody was around. Luckily,
7:02Speaker 3a couple were kind of was trailing after I posed to her and grabbed my phone and got some pictures and stuff because I was stoked that I actually had that because now we could relive that scene, to speak. And so
7:21Speaker 3Amy, then I don't know if you saw Justin, was there when he did that with his, fiance and we listened. I like went up and did the rose petals and hooked him up and duh, that was dope. It was romantic.
7:37Speaker 3Did a huge wedding. I think it was more her family than like the huge wedding. I would have like eloped
7:50Speaker 4When I talked to her dad, her dad's like, you guys aren't gonna be like dressed up in like tuxedos and shit, are you? Mike Gunnar man.
7:58Speaker 4he thinks it's like, he's gonna pay for it. No, that's not actually why he said that. Somebody had to announce. He's like, oh yeah, probably because he doesn't want paper. I'm like, oh, that's a good thought. But no, I think that we will have a wedding where we will not be wearing shoes.
8:13Speaker 4So whatever that is, whatever that takes, that means it's just laid back and chill. And if it's gonna be a like we did think about destination wedding, right? But
8:30Speaker 4and expect everybody to drop $5 on plane tickets and hotels for you. So I don't like that. So if we're going to do that, then I better invite not a lot of people. I don't
8:54Speaker 3Laguna, I think it was over the cliffs. Okay. Gorgeous. It looks have you been to the cliffs there? Looks like Hawaii. I mean, it's absolutely gorgeous there. And the
9:05Speaker 4literally comes and counts. You can have 40 people, which was great. We were broken. Was just immediate family and it was dope. Well, I think that they literally showed me an article and I think that they're banning weddings now. Really? And 1 of the big sites there, there was like a big protest group. That's the,
9:39Speaker 3going to get back to your mom on just that way of thinking, because that's right. I'm going to teach my sons to do that. Like if that rule steps outside of your integrity, don't fall. It's
9:49Speaker 4a little punk rocky, but you know I mean? But it means you need to have a good head on your shoulders and be able to interpret roles right. Just But verify.
10:07Speaker 3I have 3 kids and 2 granddaughters. I just had a granddaughter 2 days ago. A lot of life going on in my family.
10:14Speaker 3But my son's radically different. My son Mason is the 1st brown haired kid that I had. I've had 2 toe heads and
10:22Speaker 3he came out of the womb just hungry. And Jack's is just for the athletic and Mason just loves to eat, dude. That kid loves to eat, but he's also my little lover, dude. He's just,
10:50Speaker 3balloon man, face painter. I could go on and on and I'm like, What in the world he's 2? But
10:58Speaker 3need those outdoor heaters back? Okay. I think it's supposed to rain a little bit on Sunday, which she's all bummed, but Oh, shit. It is what it is. Do you still does she have 1 of those, like, is she getting the blow up pools? Of course. K. Good. Who cares? The kids will just who cares? If it rains on them, they're fine. It's their kids, man. It'll be fun. It'll be, we haven't had people over in quite some time, so that will be cool, but, that's the good stuff, man. You got an awesome backyard for it too. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got just this
11:31Speaker 4then a cliff on the other side where there's a big park Canyon Park where I used to walk my dog. I would walk my dog and like throw pine cones up there at Brett's house.
11:40Speaker 3Be like, Hey, do you ever have pine cones just lobbed into your yard? You ever noticed that? I was on the phone with Brett 1 time when it was super windy on the phone, literally Brett.
12:10Speaker 3It wasn't that trampoline because he didn't live anywhere close to me, but like the wind took my trampoline and took it somewhere. Did you ever get it back or was it broken? We looked in the canyons, figured literally couldn't drive jumping on it or something,
12:48Speaker 3You're getting married. My kids, I just had a granddaughter. My 2nd granddaughter life is good.
12:56Speaker 3like safe and healthy and the kid is good. 5 Yeah. So she's healthy. My daughter is a, it's crazy when your daughter has a daughter daughters,
13:04Speaker 3but you know, life gave me another swing and I'm glad I have boys because daughters are hard.
13:29Speaker 3Then boys were here. I don't see them. But dude, you know, is gonna be cool thing is like that, like, I'm going to try to work on like, you know, kind of living like your mom where it's like, you know, I always had the most patience. So I'm working on that stuff, but, like let them be boys, boys, they need to break shit, dude. They need to climb shit. They're going to probably break their arms and they're going to problem, but they need to test the limits of stuff. They're full of testosterone
13:48Speaker 3and we support that in our family. You know what I mean? Not just sit in a chair for 8 hours and like study some shit. You're going to like, forget
13:57Speaker 3like, like your mom, like she touched it, feel it. That's what my wife is good Like she will, she's like right now with, she's like the science, she's some science thing. She would take me there all the time. Had this Pacific Science Center.
14:10Speaker 4As learn. Absolutely. That's great. That's great. And right with River the other day, we had a dresser that has been out, not used for a long time. I'm like, dude, I'm done with this dresser. I said, River, come here. You're gonna help me take the trash out? He's like, oh my god. Grab the axe. You're gonna we get to break some shit. And he's like, okay. Alright. Yeah. And so I put the dresser in the side and gave him an axe. Luckily,
14:35Speaker 4right back at him. And then he got to just just beat the hell out of his dresser, just destroy it, break it down so then I could just nicely put it in the garbage can. His mom came out about 9 times and was like, don't do that. Why? I'm like Yeah. Stuff. He's a boy. Like, he needs this stuff. 100%. And literally, I was like, that's the most fun I've had in so long. Like, I know. This is what they needed. The boys just need, he needs to, they need like, they just need to be able to break loud noises,
15:02Speaker 3break should use their strengths. I try to catch myself when I'm like, they're getting irritated. I'm like, they're boys, dude. Break some shit guys fighting on out. They're fighting all the time. They're going to be, it's going be fun. Mason's going to beat him, beat Jack's up somewhat soon. He's my
15:18Speaker 3son. Jack's was like so daring. Like he was so ballsy when he was literally kind of turned into a little crybaby. I'm trying to, I gotta toughen this kid up.
15:26Speaker 3Mason's gonna whoop his ass. I'm like, Jackson, eat your food. Mason's gonna kick your butt dude. Like, so Mason will walk by and like bash him in the head with a toy. And then Jack starts crying. I'm like, hit him back, dude. Yeah, you're his older brother. He's like, I'm like, dude, they're going to be brawling, dude, whatever.
15:42Speaker 3So they'll learn to settle it. So anyways. My sister did. I'm being judged right now, are you listeners? I hear you. Whatever.
15:55Speaker 4I don't know. He's like border borderline the gas burgers. Right? And then the, and then the younger daughter, and I remember we were in Hawaii 1 time and the boy came up to mom and said, hey, it's like, she took my she took my airplane crying. She's like, you're her older brother. Take it back. Yeah. Don't
16:14Speaker 3Anyway. No no crying lot. I always say, this is the no crying section. You can cry all you want in your room. This is no crying section.
16:22Speaker 4Now that 1 you might get judged on, but whatever. It is what it is. Not perfect. People
16:30Speaker 4dude, I'm a father at 1st. So they can't Here's the thing with the crying, it's like, dude, especially the pain crying. Ugh. You fuck. You you hurt yourself crying. Other than that, you just suck. I know. I I think that, like, real I mean, kids cry about everything, and it's just attention. So that's very so that's good. But now as an adult, like pain is not in, does not trigger a crying response
16:49Speaker 4for an adult. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, but not for me. The only thing that triggers a crying response is like my dog dying. Yeah. Like real emotional thing. So I don't know if the kids
17:00Speaker 4okay, it's scared, but the scaredness, this pain, they think it should hurt. So it's crazy with always with kids. Right? They they do something. If you look at them and go, oh my gosh, are you okay? Yeah. Bam. Cry. And for me, If you go, get up. You're fine.
17:14Speaker 3Yeah. I do not like it all the Well, he didn't wanna go. You gotta hear us being a little butthole when he came, like, throwing a little fit and, like, he didn't wanna do jiu jitsu. And I'm like so I talked to him.
17:23Speaker 3He ends up getting a stripe. Right? So I tell him after I said, listen, if you didn't go, you wouldn't have got that stripe.
17:28Speaker 3And 2, there's another, there's another father there that runs a kickboxing class and he's cool. He's really hard on the son, you know, and like, I like that type of stuff. It makes him a man. So
17:44Speaker 3thing, like think 6 times. So I was going to do that with Jackson yesterday. Was going to literally put my shoes on and be like, listen, you're either going to GJ 2, you're not going to complain or I'm, you and I are running around this and you're going to run around this parking lot 6 times. So we ended up going to, I was literally going to do it because I thought that guy could get that. I'm like, well, that's- That's good. So,
18:03Speaker 3especially when you do it with him. I will do it with him because I'm gonna teach him that I'm gonna do it too. Well, I say this a lot. I mean, I'm not gonna ever ask anybody to do something that I wouldn't do. For sure. And I'm gonna teach you that
18:19Speaker 4was it. Good for you. Hey, shit. When I was in college football, if you were injured, like, had to do the most humiliating
18:25Speaker 4things like Oh, really? You literally so if you were injured and you weren't practicing, you had to gear up full pads. You may not take your helmet off,
18:32Speaker 4stand on that sideline. You also had to but 1st, you had to gear up helmet on and go into the training room. And if you had an injured right leg, you're on the bike with your 1 leg inside wearing all of your gear.
18:45Speaker 4It sure makes you be like, okay, did. I'm good. Like, I'm gonna go run. Can I play? Going back on the field. Yeah. I remember those days.
18:56Speaker 4I played hurt. Yep. Absolutely. Especially in college, you start to realize like, man. Oh, I freaking love it. Yes. We all done it right. And I broke my thumb. My thumb was in my wrist. Know, I was like in the huddle, I think something's wrong. And so cut 13 more passes a game. Dude, that's a great And, yeah, just take it up there.
19:16Speaker 32. Today is the peptide of the week, but, we're gonna do 2 compounds that are not peptides.
19:21Speaker 3They are categorized as peptides. Both of them, they're not either. Neither of them are peptides. We've got obviously the NAD plus, which is huge. We were thinking yesterday, should we do? And we hadn't done it in a long time because it's amazing. And then we're going to do Tesofensine.
19:36Speaker 3So last time we did that, it didn't go so well. It got pulled from YouTube. So nobody has seen us do Tesofensine.
19:43Speaker 3stayed up on the podcast, but anyways, it got flagged on YouTube, whatever. Is what it is. We're going to dig into that. So we'll start with NAD. It's probably 1 of the more popular ones.
20:08Speaker 4of all, I guess the big thing is, is so NAD is a co enzyme, right? It is not actually a peptide,
20:25Speaker 4I don't know, something more than that, but it's everywhere. It's everywhere in your body. Like, everything
20:36Speaker 4It will so here's some of the benefits. Like, NAD is is where it is it is it's working in your cells on a biological and genetic level also. Okay? So Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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21:17Speaker 2dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
21:23Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
21:33Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. It's what is creating a lot of your ATP. Synthesis,
21:50Speaker 4which is, that's what happens in your mitochondria. This is why MOTS-3C also helps with ATP
22:00Speaker 4NAD is going to help with your natural energy production. Okay? And that's not caffeine energy. That's not like stimulant
22:22Speaker 4cellular repair and just repair as our cells slowly die off, right? NAD is gonna repair them
22:32Speaker 4all of our cells are dying and not regenerating fast. Well, they always kind of regenerate, right? But they're not growing back and they're not regenerating building to what they once were. So it's kind of like-
22:53Speaker 4kind of, because it's gonna repair those. That's why it's that's why it gets the tag as antiaging because it repairs the DNA. Yep. And like FOX-four folks, we don't ever really talk about that, but that that's that peptide's job is to just clear away dead cells. So it's kind of a nice mix on things where, like, cells will die. I don't care if you're taking NAD.
23:18Speaker 4It will and absolutely, it's gonna help your brain your brain health. Right? It's neuroprotective.
23:30Speaker 4thoughts, which my brain isn't working right now. We just talked about this whole thing before. We both said, shit, I gotta, I gotta take a little bit more and it's time for me to get back on. Then it's been a while, which I will like tonight starting now.
23:44Speaker 4So heart metabolism, it's going to improve insulin sensitivity, right? Better control your lipids, which is your fats and your cardiovascular function.
23:53Speaker 4Everybody wants their heart to work better. Regulates inflammatory pathways and supports immune
24:10Speaker 4there's 500 enzymatic reactions depend on NAD plus It's everywhere in your body. I mean, obviously everything is made of cells, but
24:18Speaker 4our body depends on NAD and it functions very well with a lot with, with good levels of NAD.
24:53Speaker 3probably 80 to a 100%. Okay. Of NAD plus As you go down, let's talk about that for a 2nd. So as you go down where you're losing NAD, you got fatigue.
25:02Speaker 3You're going have obviously the typical brain fog. You're going to just kind of just be obviously tired.
25:21Speaker 3you know, if we just always slow down and use our brains and think logical, Like to the, to the, to the compounds that most
25:32Speaker 3entity. Why? Because they freaking work. Why would they take it? Because somebody a lot
25:37Speaker 3more intelligent than them told them to take it because it's for anti age. Unlimited resources
25:43Speaker 4and they have- Top of the knot line. More resources depend on them being in shape and right now. So
25:49Speaker 3if they do it, they probably should do it. That's why I love HGH and I'm NAD. So there's all the kind of basic
25:59Speaker 4Then talking about there's a couple ways to take Kennedy. People have heard about these. There's with BPC NAD plus oral pills.
26:28Speaker 4not worthwhile, folks. I would just not waste your time with the true NAD plus finished product pills.
26:41Speaker 4it actually helps you with, absorb it real fast, but it sustains release. It stays in you a little bit, a lot longer. And the name of the game, I guess, is still just kind of level. We want, we want level amounts
27:15Speaker 4cognitive clarity, energy, stamina, sleep recovery, cellular repair, the whole thing, cellular repair. Right?
27:27Speaker 4get old guys. We get old. We look old because our because our DNA, our genes, and our cells
27:34Speaker 4just don't grow as strong. They don't repair as well. So, I mean, this just says it all. I'm
27:52Speaker 4but I had noticed the look like after 2 months of taking it, my skin looks like tighter. And
28:04Speaker 3we, a lot of people start with the 2, what we call the gateway drugs for lack of a better way to say it.
28:11Speaker 3hundred, if you have an injury and then you try those, you're like, wow, that does amazing or GLP-1s,
28:22Speaker 3most of the rest are not going to be the instant gratification where you feel it really necessarily.
28:31Speaker 3it's not like you feel it. Oh wow, I feel the NAD. I mean, you can, but you're just going to notice that you look better. HGH
28:44Speaker 3are. We're humans and we are programmed to want instant gratification. 1 And that's just not how most of oftentimes
28:52Speaker 4you notice these a lot when you stop taking them. You don't really expect that was happened to me earlier.
28:59Speaker 4I took HGH for a while. I'm like, I don't even know what it's really doing. Is it doing then I stop and a month later I go down. Now I know what it was doing. Holy shit. Like I've, it's so much, my body was so much more forgiving
29:13Speaker 4now if I'm off whatever I eat, okay, I can see that affecting me negatively. Absolutely. Whereas before it would just burn everything off. So it was kind of somewhat similar to NAD.
29:34Speaker 4they do the doctors. So a typical like IV drip and doctors are giving 2 50 micrograms, but most commonly 500
29:55Speaker 4burns. And if you squeeze the IV bag and get it into you faster, it will burn like hell. So you wanna slow drip it, but
30:03Speaker 4you can take a lot if it's tolerated for the individual. So general wellness down here, like 15, 25 mg,
30:10Speaker 43 days a week. Work your way up. All of these, you do not start at any of these doses that you see folks.
30:44Speaker 4then this actually says clinical and must be administered by a like medical professional, 500 mg
31:01Speaker 4So then we have a little bit more details on this. So how do you So you will see So as far as the peptide is concerned, this is kind of what we're here talking about is you're buying your bottle with a lyophilized powder. Okay? You'll see 2 50 mg, you'll see 500 mg, 1000 mg. So I really just have 500 mg and thousand here. 500 mg, let's make life easy. These should always come in a bigger bottle because
31:45Speaker 4you're going to add 10 mils of water and therefore the conversion or that same ratio is the exact same.
32:03Speaker 4NAD is particularly sensitive to light. It is not particularly sensitive to heat. So storing at room temp is just fine.
32:11Speaker 4It can't be too hot, but like it doesn't need to be refrigerated. And in fact, it's probably a good idea to even
32:18Speaker 4draw it up, then kind of leave leave the syringe, let it warm up to room temp. And as you inject, it will burn a little bit less,
32:42Speaker 4I would start my 1st dose would be 10 mg and I would bump up by either 5 or 10 until I get to 25 or get to 50 where you want to stop If you do too much, and I personally have done too much accidentally. Early on, I think I did like 80 mg, like the 2nd And
33:04Speaker 4As soon as I did it, I got some tingling in my hands and feet and it rushed up and became way more intense.
33:17Speaker 4closed and flamed like this, like boom. I was sitting down luckily and luckily I've been through some weird shit before, but I had my phone in my hand. I remember in this stuff, the wave of tingling just
33:29Speaker 4came easy intense and I was paralyzed. I remember trying to like flex my hand and my stomach and like nothing would work. Woah. Brain was done and I just, so
33:42Speaker 4ain't gonna kill me. But I just breathe through it. I know that I've done some dumb things in my life, but if I was a normal person, that would have scared the hell out of me for sure. And
33:53Speaker 4I thought, okay, hey, if I get, if I'm passing out anymore, I do have a friend who's upstairs. Better let's see if I can get a yell out, but I'm not going to do that quite yet. We'll ride it out. That lasted about 15, 20 seconds or so. And then it slowly
34:18Speaker 4that means you're gonna, you need to slowly increase. Now you build a bit of a tolerance, but I know people who say, Dude, I love doing NAD where I wanna do my dose is where I do it and I get tingly,
34:33Speaker 4Okay. So that's okay. It's not a bad sign. You just need to know, well, swear to draw the line. Okay. I'm sure.
34:49Speaker 3I was doing I was doing 50 pretty probably 6 or 7 days a week. Was doing it at 02:00. Yep. We've
34:56Speaker 3talked about it before, but when, I hadn't, I hadn't been taking it, but as Will said, I'd probably start taking it again. Then it's been a while and
35:17Speaker 3and it worked great. And that's when I would take it. And I would take, I would kind of settle that 50 megs daily and it worked great for me. And, you know, often starting this, I have heard and I know that this can happen when you're 1st starting,
35:30Speaker 4it can actually do a little reverse job on you and you can feel a little bit tired. 1st couple of doses similar to growth hormone. When you start growth, you do feel, man, a little like worn out for the 1st couple of weeks. If you just move through that, it will go away. Your body is doing and repairing a lot of things that it's not used to, right? So it's burning off, it's burning some extra calories, you know, rebuilding your cells in the part of HGH, like rebuilding muscles.
35:55Speaker 4So that takes maybe a little toll at the beginning, but just ride it out and it should be fine.
36:21Speaker 4And that makes it a 100% bearable, but warming it up, injecting slower, right? Digging in, just let it slowly kind of go in is going to burn a whole lot less. It's also doing that inevitably is going to reduce the risk of any type of reaction because you have your
36:38Speaker 4If you put a whole bunch in, you get a whole bunch more of a histamine response, right? They come rushing to the party. If you do just a little bit at a time, you're not going to get as many histamines all at once. So tip
36:50Speaker 3Yeah. Like testosterone's like that for a lot of people, a lot of people will just, if you just go slow,
36:56Speaker 3you get a lesser chance that you're going to get pipped because you're going super slow instead of just blasting all that oil into that section. It's the same thing you would testosterone. You do too much too fast, absolutely can start to make you better. I know people have even got sick.
37:22Speaker 3remember when you had done that, I wasn't there, but I remember when you did it because you were talking about it.
37:33Speaker 4it's everybody's just so radically different, You can do this stuff, intrabuscular tube. Want to just pop it in your thigh? Like similar to Glutathione. That's what I do. You can. Yeah.
37:46Speaker 3great. If you have not done it and you're listening to this, you'd need to do it. Like 1 of the things that most people should start with is Epitalon, you know, and get that done. Then, but NAD is a must.
38:06Speaker 3Generally speaking, I think we've always kind of go in cycles of 1000 mg. We've always kind of gone off that kind of, you know, we've changed in the beginning, I think, how much we were telling people. Fair enough. Run it through a true cycle of 1000 megs, maybe take a month off and then run another however long it takes you to do 1000 megs. Yes. That's kind you kind of go by that. It's kind of worked well. That's a 5 gun. Yeah. So like, however many, if you need to,
38:35Speaker 4there's no time limit on it. If it takes you 6 months, it takes you 6 months. Right? But if you can finish that in a month while you're doing a lot, but that's okay. We did discuss
38:57Speaker 4which is not NAD plus So NMN is the precursor to NAD plus right? So you take that, body starts being able to gives building materials essentially
39:18Speaker 4like it was a post cycle, right? Just like replenishing your body with the building materials for NAD and then repeat.
39:24Speaker 3I would say, over the like, Little's like way to do this would be maybe run NAD and then take a break from NAD and then run-in some MOTS-1.0 and
39:36Speaker 3if you take MOTS-1C and SS-31for too long too, you will get run down. It will overdrive the mitochondria.
39:51Speaker 4If you haven't done it, do it. There's a reason that like every single med spa is offering this and movie stars and everybody, and it's got a big name.
40:13Speaker 4It's really interesting. Any of you people who have done any, well, antidepressants, like
40:34Speaker 4So it has a, it's a selective and SSRI, which is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, which is what Zoloft is. Okay. And serotonin
40:46Speaker 4but calm. Okay? So people, docs will give it to people who have anxiety and depression.
41:32Speaker 4Because I was putting, like, massively bad things in front of my brain into my body constantly, and then you stop them and you feel depressed. So I was put on serotonin,
41:41Speaker 4Zoloft for a while. It made me too sleepy. Like, I was just too, like Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox,
42:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard. Mastercard. So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
42:18Speaker 2Want it that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Yeah. You know, why do I wanna take, like, 4 naps a day? And then and then, Wellbutrin,
42:39Speaker 4And then I I cut this 1 off. And frankly, after a while, after I was sober for a while and like had a good connection with God and people and and started living life,
42:54Speaker 4is the 1, if you just stop cold turkey, there's a little bit of withdrawal symptoms. Yeah. Yeah. I think there there's said to be withdrawal symptoms than the others, but I didn't really feel it that much. But anyway, I started taking Tesofensine.
43:04Speaker 4So here is how it is all 3 of those combined, but it's not just full strength, full strength, full strength.
43:25Speaker 4And then during their early neurological tests, started realizing why is every single patient losing a bunch of weight?
43:31Speaker 4Wait a minute, let's maybe switch the research. So now it's literally like 1 of the most like potent
43:42Speaker 4this is what it does. It is here to help a person lose weight. Why? But it just affects your brain. So
43:53Speaker 4any trying to get a dopamine spike. Your brain is just happy how it is. It doesn't need its sugar. It doesn't need food for happiness. And believe it or not, I know most of you people are like, I don't go, I don't eat food for happiness, but you do. And it does provide you happiness, especially
44:15Speaker 4it's the sweets. I'll be eating ice cream go, this just doesn't do it for me at all. I don't know why I'm doing this. It's it does not provide the same, you know, happiness that it used to. And so what's the point? So then I don't do it. Doesn't even taste good.
44:28Speaker 4I don't get I personally don't know. I don't get fat from steak and potatoes. It's not gonna prevent me. It's not gonna reduce my hunger. Yeah. Right? I still by a large that I need food,
44:38Speaker 4but it is gonna reduce any of that bad food that just gives makes my brain artificially happy. Yeah. And that's the point.
44:44Speaker 3What have you I know you just started taking it. I know you've had some Yeah, it's definitely been an interesting 1 for me because I think I misjudged it and sometimes I have to take our own advice, which I don't always do that, but I'm giving it sometimes and not always following it. But when I had gone to Cancun, I took it for 3 days because we were studying it at that time and talking about it, I was super intrigued.
45:05Speaker 3And I went out for a wedding that I was actually going to, what do you call it? Pastor? What do you lead?
45:25Speaker 3And that was it. So I pulled it and didn't fill that anymore. So I figured I'd left thinking it was a Tesofensine. I've never been on an SSRI.
45:36Speaker 3went to a rehab that did that because man, that's 1 of the reasons I hate Western medicine. They just here take a bunch of shit,
45:42Speaker 3get y'all these drugs and here's some more drugs. Like my wife was on like 8 drugs out of a rehab, dude.
45:52Speaker 3But anyway, so I, for the longest time, we'll not talk about it forever. I just wasn't a fan of it. Now we
45:59Speaker 3had other people on the show. We've had it, we've talked about it numerous times. Everybody's really loved it. So I've been super intrigued by it. I'm like, maybe I didn't give it a fair shake.
46:07Speaker 3And so the last month and 0.5 or so, give or take, I wasn't taking hardly any, so I did start taking it and
46:14Speaker 3gosh, it gave me a lot of energy. Right away, if I noticed it, I was like, wow, that So now I wake up and then I go downstairs
46:33Speaker 3blocking of the sugar cravings. Like I'm dealing with the sugar cravings at night right now. I'm dealing with some gut stuff, so I think it has to do with some of that stuff
46:42Speaker 3because I like the sweets at night. Now I'm you. I never really had that problem now. So I wish the Tesofensine would kind of block some of that, but
46:51Speaker 3it does what I need, what I like it to do, which is that focus. But how long have you been on it right now? Probably
47:02Speaker 4need to put some weeks in before they actually know it will work. It's definitely not like a narcotic where you just pop it and think. Now maybe the energy part of it, it is pretty fast working, but
47:12Speaker 4I'd give it a little bit longer. I mean, I would generally say 3 weeks is probably enough time for you to start to feel that,
47:32Speaker 3I love Midafinally. I usually take a Midafinally before most podcasts because it's just super focused. If anybody's taking it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
47:40Speaker 3So it has a little bit of that flare to me. You focus a little bit more, you definitely have more energy. So the food part for me isn't that big of a deal. I'm pretty disciplined with that stuff. Can handle that stuff. So, but a lot of people say that, that it's not necessarily rivaling a GLP-three,
47:56Speaker 4but it's definitely right behind it. And a lot of research has shown me literally, I mean, they're doing, they're doing active research studies and it is proving that it's helping
48:11Speaker 4it's not even artificial energy. It is just Yeah. It's the dopamine increase. It's like when your brain, if you're, if you're happy and motivated about something, you have more energy. I promise you. Like you are like, shit, I'm let's get out of bed. Let's, let's do this thing. Yeah. Right?
48:25Speaker 4Imagine every day of your life, even those who are depressed when it was Christmas morning or someday, you know, whatever today you were doing was gonna be awesome. Yeah. You were up out of bed. Yeah. And excited about it. Right? And you had energy. This is what it does. It doesn't increase your heart rate. Right? It doesn't nothing like that, but it does, it increases that dopamine. So you just feel a bit more motivated and you just, damn, I want to
48:48Speaker 4work and not take a nap and I don't want to miss any of the day because I feel happy and ready to go. I noticed that for sure. Sure.
48:59Speaker 4there's some studies here, 9 to 11% average body weight loss over 24 weeks. You can see this clinical weight loss in this trial here. What
49:39Speaker 4Let's talk about when, what types of populations, etcetera should take this. So those of you who ask us, Hey, I'm on GLP-one and I'm going to stop taking it.
50:05Speaker 4are, well, Reta, let's say, take Reta because that's what everybody should be taking in. It
50:13Speaker 4in your brain to make you not be looking for a dopamine spike. Okay. I think Tesofensine is stronger
50:21Speaker 4but GLP-1s do give you that also. That's why you see this. My girlfriend's sending me TikTok videos of people are like,
50:32Speaker 4Think it's just an excuse. It's like, maybe that made you happen this much, but Here we go. Yeah. Anyways. Anyway, so it does have that ability, okay?
50:40Speaker 4But the GLP-1s also, they are the ones that make your stomach feel full really fast because they slow your digestion. This does not do that. It's not you're gonna eat you're gonna be able to eat, but you're not eating
50:55Speaker 4It so so that it's not gonna reduce your your overall hunger. And also the GLP-1s when you're not eating food. So during those phases that you don't eat, it actually
51:10Speaker 4not hangry, and and working at a high level. Telsifenzine is not gonna do that. You need food. It's gonna make your brain, your dopamine better,
51:21Speaker 4and no food there to fuel your brain, it's, you're still gonna get hangry. So you still need to eat some food, but I get, I don't know. Again,
51:28Speaker 4generally it's the sweets and sugar and all that crap that makes people fat and not the substantive food,
51:35Speaker 4you know? Another, and why also helps you lose weight is those of anybody who, if you're not a very active person,
51:41Speaker 4if you're a couch potato, you start taking this, you start getting more motivated shit.
51:46Speaker 4Of sitting on the couch all night tonight, thinking I'm gonna go fold laundry. I'm gonna go for a walk, smooth. You do that on a consistent basis.
51:54Speaker 4You're going to start burning more calories and, you know, in object in motion tends to stay in motion
52:05Speaker 4Will help you trend the other way. Yeah. I noticed it right away. Yep. It did. It pretty works, dude. I love it. So guys, I don't know. I love it. I think I'd be taking it and I like it. I did. I used to love taking naps now.
52:20Speaker 3sound appealing. Totally agree with that. Taken I've the last 3 weeks. I'm not, I'm a pro NAP person, but I have not been needing NAPs. So that's been great. So that's what you're saying recommended
52:36Speaker 4conservative to be conservative, which is kind of what I want to tell people why do as I say, and as I do, like I have, if so here's the, because of the serotonin I noticed, so I, I, there are withdrawals from a SSRI.
52:51Speaker 41 of them being the brain zaps. If anybody knows what I'm talking about, then they know what I'm talking about. Your brain just kind of goes, you
53:14Speaker 4with this, if you take this long term, there will be some withdrawal symptoms. Probably those that I just texted. So So either if you're going to take it long term, don't stop or be smart. If you do stop, you need to slowly wean yourself down. This is another, like you said, this is another something to take, but
53:45Speaker 4and felt no withdrawal symptoms. And I was actually quite surprised. I thought I would, The withdrawal symptoms aren't bad though. I mean, even like serotonin, you get the brain's abs. I don't know. I think it's kind of fun anyway. The
54:05Speaker 4But that's easier said than done. It's like when you're actually depressed, you know, fuck if I can get up that 1 and fix this probably, but I'm not getting up.
54:21Speaker 4motion, object motion tends to stay in motion. It gets a little bit better and better and better. You got to just, you got to lean on that moment bend down the hill, baby. But you're right. You're right. Always the base of diet,
54:33Speaker 3Gosh, these things both, but like, man, you got to have that stuff in line. You're sitting, coming right off the couch, these things aren't going to shine. Yeah.
54:48Speaker 42 50 micrograms is your low dose, lowest effective dose. It may or may not even be effective.
54:55Speaker 4500 micrograms. Here's my suggested take these in the 1st 0.5 of the day. Okay. It's going to give you energy. It's not really like heart beating,
55:02Speaker 4extra fast energy, but you still don't want to take it before bed and try to sleep. You'd probably be like, damn, I really want to go like do some stuff,
55:11Speaker 41000 micrograms is advanced. Personally, I am taking 1000 micrograms and taking 2 pills a day and I just take them in the morning. Yep. Take them in the morning together.
55:20Speaker 4This is just a kind of a titration phase. So here's, here's an example of how somebody, if they wanted to titrate up,
55:28Speaker 4that's how you can do it. And you know, Hey, everybody's brain chemistry is different. So
55:32Speaker 4if this is turning bad on you, like JD's 1st experience, then maybe you don't take it. Yeah. Okay. Timing morning
55:49Speaker 4mouth that may happen. I have had that. I haven't noticed mild heart rate increase. I've never had that. So here's the things not to do.
56:01Speaker 4or NRIs or MAO OIs. Okay? So you just don't wanna double up on the drug. So you don't wanna be taking Wellbutrin or or Zoloft
56:15Speaker 4Don't have uncontrolled hypertension, so don't be just stressed out of your effing mind. Okay. That's a general rule. Shouldn't do that anyway. Okay.
56:33Speaker 4not work right as you want it to, or might do something weird with your preexisting condition. So that one's just like, duh. I mean, you also use your brain. Yeah. Don't wanna, I don't know, jump off a building with bipolar or any other way.
57:16Speaker 4That's about it. That's all that the real that I real kind of worries are regular, you know, shit, regular blood tests,
57:29Speaker 4You're anxiety ridden and like, that's 1 of your verts and maybe just go slow start. If you're going to try it, just start really low and make sure that you can do it. Then you can always go up. Yeah, for sure. So if you have anxiety, this is going to give you a bit more energy. So if you're very sensitive to having anxiety with a cup of coffee, this may not be the thing for you. Hail, it might be though.
57:54Speaker 4We're telling you about our experience and that's it and telling you what we know. We are not doctors and not the smartest people in the world and do not know anything. So don't listen to anything we say if you don't want to.
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