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0:54Speaker 3Welcome back to the February 9 of the week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham.
0:58Speaker 3Across the way my buddy William T Haas. Happy Friday. Busy
1:04Speaker 3Friday. Like always, it's never not a busy Friday. We've been going through a lot, but life's
1:10Speaker 3good. What's it? What else is new, dude?
1:12Speaker 3Your life. Okay. So
1:14Speaker 4my girlfriend
1:16Speaker 4and-
1:17Speaker 4Fiance? Fiance. Well, no, no, no. Because I have not asked her for I the
1:21Speaker 4have, the ring is being made.
1:24Speaker 4So I'm waiting for that. It's been a while too. It's been a little, I should have it now. And then I've been thinking about, like, we've gone to Hawaii every year for the last 3 years.
1:33Speaker 4With her family, we went with my mom 1 time, me, my mom, her,
1:38Speaker 4River, the 9 year old. And he, so we had a blast. My mother actually is like a free spirit. So when we said, hey, can you like watch him for the day? And so what River wants to do is run around the little lazy thing and jump off the rocks where it says, do not jump off the rocks. Of course. And so Allie's always complaining at him. We leave my leave in with my mom
2:00Speaker 4and we come back. They come back 2 hours later and my mom has been like, okay, so I tested it out.
2:07Speaker 4The rocks are fine.
2:09Speaker 4I taught him how to do flips. So he's good. He's like, say he's doing the flips into the water off of the rocks.
2:16Speaker 4That's just literally how my mom always taught me. She's like, you don't,
2:20Speaker 4But she's like completely,
2:21Speaker 4I don't obey rules unless they make sense. And that's what I was taught. That's how I was taught. Like Love that. You don't obey any rule
2:28Speaker 4if it doesn't make any sense. So see a trespassing sign? That just means it's probably a cool place to be. These people aren't using the land. Like, because we just went camping for my whole everyone.
2:39Speaker 3Yeah. She's such a good spirit. She's she's a good her vibe, she's got my my wife's vibe. It's just she just lights up a room. She does. She's a
2:48Speaker 4good human. She's negative. Nothing negative. My father told me once, he's like, you know, you ever notice for all the faults and what I complain about your mother is
2:57Speaker 4try to remember. I still have never heard her say 1 bad thing about any person, about anything.
3:03Speaker 4Like she doesn't complain. She doesn't go, this is a stupid commercial. Yeah, rare. And I thought about it, I'm like, God damn, that's pretty hard to literally
3:11Speaker 4not say anything bad about anybody
3:13Speaker 4at all. It's crazy.
3:16Speaker 3But yeah, right. It is kind of crazy, but like dude, I get it. You know who I know that like that is, Scott, Doctor. Scott.
3:23Speaker 3I've
3:24Speaker 3known him most of my life. Never heard him say 1 negative thing about anybody. You're right. You're right. Their conversations we've, I think we've had conversations where something like, Oh, this bad. And he doesn't like partake in that. Yeah. If he goes, people talking shitty, he dips out.
3:39Speaker 4Okay. Good for him. So anyway, what's going on? Don't know where that came from, but yeah, my mom teaches him how to do the flips and Allie's like, oh,
3:47Speaker 4well. Anyway, he is now
3:50Speaker 4officially, like, enrolled in school, a block from our house. Sweet. Because she came from like RSM,
3:55Speaker 4Rancho Santa Margarita, which is 45 minutes away. Does his school, his like his private school. And,
4:02Speaker 4it's a pain in the ass. Like it puts everybody in a bad mood. You gotta commute 45 minutes there and back. I can do it. Plus it lowers the time at home to do homework and have fun. Right? So this is like sports home, homework bed. Right? That's no and then it just raises everybody's stress levels. Plus I
4:20Speaker 4did this. I went to a private school in junior high and they gave us a 300 page packet of homework to do over the summer.
4:27Speaker 3What the
4:28Speaker 4he's a kid. Like, so the amount of homework this 9 year old brings home every day is And
4:33Speaker 4I am all about, and I actually am all of like absolutely
4:37Speaker 4for academics
4:39Speaker 4and,
4:40Speaker 4school,
4:41Speaker 4but
4:42Speaker 4that's nuts. We should have let a kid be a kid more. Like, that's stupid. Yeah. So there's too much damn homework. So anyway, he will do a lot better. He'll, for the 1st time, have a community and like a neighborhood
4:54Speaker 4vibe, right? Like play sports with the kids he goes to school with, not just be a commuter.
4:58Speaker 4That's what I did in private school and I hated it until I finally got to go to a public school in high school.
5:04Speaker 4Yeah, it was a lot easier, but,
5:06Speaker 4but I got to do it. I got to, you know, play sports against people who were actually good and
5:10Speaker 4in this be back with the neighborhood and have a real sense of community. That's exciting. Riding bikes, come home when the lights come on. Yeah.
5:18Speaker 4Those stories are legit. It was like, was like, that's what you can do. Got them actually a motor scooter just now. It's in my, it's in the office, hidden with a blanket over it. If he's a dangerous dude. Holy shit. Kids in my neighborhood,
5:31Speaker 3Those are cars, man. They don't know how to drive them. They're all over the road. I'm like, dude, I've always like numerous times. Scare the crap. Yeah, it is crazy.
5:40Speaker 4It's a scooter. At least it's not an e bike. Okay.
5:44Speaker 4He, Albert, had no chance in hell getting in the e bike. He barely can ride a bike. He just learned how to ride a bike. Right. His dad never taught him how to ride a bike. He was
5:51Speaker 4learned how to ride a bike about 3 months ago.
5:54Speaker 4I bought him a bike too 1 time to try to teach him and he didn't wanna do it. And that night, I gave it to the poor kids down the street.
6:02Speaker 3Did he want to Oh,
6:05Speaker 4thank you. So the whole thing was proposing.
6:09Speaker 4I was thinking about doing the proposal in Hawaii,
6:12Speaker 4but then I don't really wanna wait 3 months after having the ring.
6:17Speaker 4It's we're not gonna do anything that's, like, extravagant.
6:20Speaker 4She did say just don't
6:23Speaker 4propose to me in a restaurant.
6:26Speaker 4At least she told you. Yeah. At least you told me. You probably would've. It probably would've. And then like, well, it's a perfect way to do it. So she works in a restaurant too, so I think that's all she sees a lot. So I don't know. Maybe I'll wait till her Hawaii, but that-
6:38Speaker 3don't know. Nobody's so different. Like, you know, Chad had a big, like,
6:42Speaker 3you know, and then like, I didn't have, I think I've told you this, but I didn't have people there to film and her family wanted me to. I'm like, not my style, man. I just wanted to propose.
6:51Speaker 3And I think I told you this, but, when I had proposed, I was nervous as hell. I knew she was gonna say yes, but I was still nervous. Got down on my knee, walking at a crystal cove. Nobody was around. Luckily,
7:02Speaker 3a couple were kind of was trailing after I posed to her and grabbed my phone and got some pictures and stuff because I was stoked that I actually had that because now we could relive that scene, to speak. And so
7:14Speaker 3I don't know if you at least have a budget. I'll do somewhere.
7:17Speaker 3Yeah. Doesn't need to be professional. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like,
7:21Speaker 3Amy, then I don't know if you saw Justin, was there when he did that with his, fiance and we listened. I like went up and did the rose petals and hooked him up and duh, that was dope. It was romantic.
7:32Speaker 3I'm very simple. Yeah. Like just me and my chick, me and my wife, we're very simple.
7:37Speaker 3Did a huge wedding. I think it was more her family than like the huge wedding. I would have like eloped
7:42Speaker 3just me and my girl, but you know, it's kind of depends on what they want.
7:47Speaker 4Luckily she does not want a big wedding.
7:50Speaker 4When I talked to her dad, her dad's like, you guys aren't gonna be like dressed up in like tuxedos and shit, are you? Mike Gunnar man.
7:57Speaker 4Bro. Because
7:58Speaker 4he thinks it's like, he's gonna pay for it. No, that's not actually why he said that. Somebody had to announce. He's like, oh yeah, probably because he doesn't want paper. I'm like, oh, that's a good thought. But no, I think that we will have a wedding where we will not be wearing shoes.
8:12Speaker 3Cool.
8:13Speaker 4So whatever that is, whatever that takes, that means it's just laid back and chill. And if it's gonna be a like we did think about destination wedding, right? But
8:21Speaker 4if we do that, I will be paying for everybody who's invited. I hate it
8:27Speaker 4that you invite, you make a destination wedding
8:30Speaker 4and expect everybody to drop $5 on plane tickets and hotels for you. So I don't like that. So if we're going to do that, then I better invite not a lot of people. I don't
8:40Speaker 4End up spending $300,000
8:42Speaker 3on a wedding. Yeah. I mean, 1st wedding,
8:45Speaker 3was,
8:46Speaker 3we were early
8:47Speaker 3twenties and had no money. We did 40, it was 40 the city of,
8:52Speaker 3what was it?
8:54Speaker 3Laguna, I think it was over the cliffs. Okay. Gorgeous. It looks have you been to the cliffs there? Looks like Hawaii. I mean, it's absolutely gorgeous there. And the
9:04Speaker 3city
9:05Speaker 4literally comes and counts. You can have 40 people, which was great. We were broken. Was just immediate family and it was dope. Well, I think that they literally showed me an article and I think that they're banning weddings now. Really? And 1 of the big sites there, there was like a big protest group. That's the,
9:21Speaker 4they are, they're protesting
9:23Speaker 4all of the flower petals are,
9:26Speaker 4are right. Are damaging the ocean and the sand. Oh man.
9:30Speaker 3The world we live in.
9:32Speaker 4I am actually good environmentalist.
9:35Speaker 4Like I do believe in the environment. That's crazy. I'm
9:39Speaker 3going to get back to your mom on just that way of thinking, because that's right. I'm going to teach my sons to do that. Like if that rule steps outside of your integrity, don't fall. It's
9:49Speaker 4a little punk rocky, but you know I mean? But it means you need to have a good head on your shoulders and be able to interpret roles right. Just But verify.
9:57Speaker 3Most people are full of shit.
9:59Speaker 3But yeah, so my son,
10:01Speaker 32 today, my little chunker. Oh, that's right. Oh man. It's
10:05Speaker 3crazy how
10:07Speaker 3I have 3 kids and 2 granddaughters. I just had a granddaughter 2 days ago. A lot of life going on in my family.
10:14Speaker 3But my son's radically different. My son Mason is the 1st brown haired kid that I had. I've had 2 toe heads and
10:22Speaker 3he came out of the womb just hungry. And Jack's is just for the athletic and Mason just loves to eat, dude. That kid loves to eat, but he's also my little lover, dude. He's just,
10:32Speaker 3cuddle up on me. So we get to celebrate him this weekend.
10:36Speaker 3Wife, you know, does she
10:39Speaker 3is the party planner extraordinaire.
10:41Speaker 3I don't look at all the things that she buys because I'm like, You must be rich.
10:46Speaker 4Like
10:48Speaker 3she gets
10:50Speaker 3balloon man, face painter. I could go on and on and I'm like, What in the world he's 2? But
10:55Speaker 3anyway, she likes to do that stuff. Do you
10:58Speaker 3need those outdoor heaters back? Okay. I think it's supposed to rain a little bit on Sunday, which she's all bummed, but Oh, shit. It is what it is. Do you still does she have 1 of those, like, is she getting the blow up pools? Of course. K. Good. Who cares? The kids will just who cares? If it rains on them, they're fine. It's their kids, man. It'll be fun. It'll be, we haven't had people over in quite some time, so that will be cool, but, that's the good stuff, man. You got an awesome backyard for it too. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got just this
11:25Speaker 4big old backyard with fire pit built into the middle of the Yeah.
11:29Speaker 4And Orange and
11:31Speaker 4then a cliff on the other side where there's a big park Canyon Park where I used to walk my dog. I would walk my dog and like throw pine cones up there at Brett's house.
11:40Speaker 3Be like, Hey, do you ever have pine cones just lobbed into your yard? You ever noticed that? I was on the phone with Brett 1 time when it was super windy on the phone, literally Brett.
11:49Speaker 3And he's like, man, it is so windy. I'm like, and
11:53Speaker 3I was talking to him, he said, dude, my neighbor has a trampoline in their tree.
11:59Speaker 3And how ironic was, I was looking at my office, goes, looks outside to the backyard.
12:05Speaker 3And as he said that I go, Where's my trampoline? My trampoline's gone.
12:10Speaker 3It wasn't that trampoline because he didn't live anywhere close to me, but like the wind took my trampoline and took it somewhere. Did you ever get it back or was it broken? We looked in the canyons, figured literally couldn't drive jumping on it or something,
12:22Speaker 3know, but they weren't,
12:24Speaker 3somebody has it. So anyways, my wife bought a new 1 and Jared comes out to
12:30Speaker 3put it together because I was working. She just, she just
12:33Speaker 3put it together all wonky.
12:35Speaker 3Jared.
12:38Speaker 4And I'm going to pay you hourly to Yeah. 6
12:42Speaker 4Oh man.
12:45Speaker 3Listen, we're blessed. Life is in full swing.
12:48Speaker 3You're getting married. My kids, I just had a granddaughter. My 2nd granddaughter life is good.
12:53Speaker 3We had good lives, man. She's
12:56Speaker 3like safe and healthy and the kid is good. 5 Yeah. So she's healthy. My daughter is a, it's crazy when your daughter has a daughter daughters,
13:04Speaker 3but you know, life gave me another swing and I'm glad I have boys because daughters are hard.
13:10Speaker 4Teens are like,
13:11Speaker 3woah,
13:12Speaker 3but like kids, boys are hard now. 5 and 2,
13:17Speaker 3Dude. It is just freaking
13:20Speaker 4They just want to run around and break stuff. I'm you you come for like 15
13:25Speaker 3minutes of this office and it's like the office is in shambles.
13:29Speaker 3Then boys were here. I don't see them. But dude, you know, is gonna be cool thing is like that, like, I'm going to try to work on like, you know, kind of living like your mom where it's like, you know, I always had the most patience. So I'm working on that stuff, but, like let them be boys, boys, they need to break shit, dude. They need to climb shit. They're going to probably break their arms and they're going to problem, but they need to test the limits of stuff. They're full of testosterone
13:48Speaker 3and we support that in our family. You know what I mean? Not just sit in a chair for 8 hours and like study some shit. You're going to like, forget
13:57Speaker 3like, like your mom, like she touched it, feel it. That's what my wife is good Like she will, she's like right now with, she's like the science, she's some science thing. She would take me there all the time. Had this Pacific Science Center.
14:10Speaker 4As learn. Absolutely. That's great. That's great. And right with River the other day, we had a dresser that has been out, not used for a long time. I'm like, dude, I'm done with this dresser. I said, River, come here. You're gonna help me take the trash out? He's like, oh my god. Grab the axe. You're gonna we get to break some shit. And he's like, okay. Alright. Yeah. And so I put the dresser in the side and gave him an axe. Luckily,
14:31Speaker 4put his baseball helmet on because I could just see this thing bounce
14:35Speaker 4right back at him. And then he got to just just beat the hell out of his dresser, just destroy it, break it down so then I could just nicely put it in the garbage can. His mom came out about 9 times and was like, don't do that. Why? I'm like Yeah. Stuff. He's a boy. Like, he needs this stuff. 100%. And literally, I was like, that's the most fun I've had in so long. Like, I know. This is what they needed. The boys just need, he needs to, they need like, they just need to be able to break loud noises,
15:02Speaker 3break should use their strengths. I try to catch myself when I'm like, they're getting irritated. I'm like, they're boys, dude. Break some shit guys fighting on out. They're fighting all the time. They're going to be, it's going be fun. Mason's going to beat him, beat Jack's up somewhat soon. He's my
15:18Speaker 3son. Jack's was like so daring. Like he was so ballsy when he was literally kind of turned into a little crybaby. I'm trying to, I gotta toughen this kid up.
15:26Speaker 3Mason's gonna whoop his ass. I'm like, Jackson, eat your food. Mason's gonna kick your butt dude. Like, so Mason will walk by and like bash him in the head with a toy. And then Jack starts crying. I'm like, hit him back, dude. Yeah, you're his older brother. He's like, I'm like, dude, they're going to be brawling, dude, whatever.
15:42Speaker 3So they'll learn to settle it. So anyways. My sister did. I'm being judged right now, are you listeners? I hear you. Whatever.
15:50Speaker 3Yeah.
15:51Speaker 4My sister's got an older boy who's not,
15:55Speaker 4I don't know. He's like border borderline the gas burgers. Right? And then the, and then the younger daughter, and I remember we were in Hawaii 1 time and the boy came up to mom and said, hey, it's like, she took my she took my airplane crying. She's like, you're her older brother. Take it back. Yeah. Don't
16:12Speaker 4come crying to me about this. Period.
16:14Speaker 3Anyway. No no crying lot. I always say, this is the no crying section. You can cry all you want in your room. This is no crying section.
16:22Speaker 4Now that 1 you might get judged on, but whatever. It is what it is. Not perfect. People
16:28Speaker 3know you know when you go out Listen, but can't
16:30Speaker 4dude, I'm a father at 1st. So they can't Here's the thing with the crying, it's like, dude, especially the pain crying. Ugh. You fuck. You you hurt yourself crying. Other than that, you just suck. I know. I I think that, like, real I mean, kids cry about everything, and it's just attention. So that's very so that's good. But now as an adult, like pain is not in, does not trigger a crying response
16:49Speaker 4for an adult. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, but not for me. The only thing that triggers a crying response is like my dog dying. Yeah. Like real emotional thing. So I don't know if the kids
17:00Speaker 4okay, it's scared, but the scaredness, this pain, they think it should hurt. So it's crazy with always with kids. Right? They they do something. If you look at them and go, oh my gosh, are you okay? Yeah. Bam. Cry. And for me, If you go, get up. You're fine.
17:14Speaker 3Yeah. I do not like it all the Well, he didn't wanna go. You gotta hear us being a little butthole when he came, like, throwing a little fit and, like, he didn't wanna do jiu jitsu. And I'm like so I talked to him.
17:23Speaker 3He ends up getting a stripe. Right? So I tell him after I said, listen, if you didn't go, you wouldn't have got that stripe.
17:28Speaker 3And 2, there's another, there's another father there that runs a kickboxing class and he's cool. He's really hard on the son, you know, and like, I like that type of stuff. It makes him a man. So
17:37Speaker 3he, his son was kind of messing around,
17:40Speaker 3made him stay after class and they ran around the
17:44Speaker 3thing, like think 6 times. So I was going to do that with Jackson yesterday. Was going to literally put my shoes on and be like, listen, you're either going to GJ 2, you're not going to complain or I'm, you and I are running around this and you're going to run around this parking lot 6 times. So we ended up going to, I was literally going to do it because I thought that guy could get that. I'm like, well, that's- That's good. So,
18:03Speaker 3especially when you do it with him. I will do it with him because I'm gonna teach him that I'm gonna do it too. Well, I say this a lot. I mean, I'm not gonna ever ask anybody to do something that I wouldn't do. For sure. And I'm gonna teach you that
18:12Speaker 3you're gonna either do it or you're gonna do something else harder.
18:17Speaker 3Toughness will suck her up. That
18:19Speaker 4was it. Good for you. Hey, shit. When I was in college football, if you were injured, like, had to do the most humiliating
18:25Speaker 4things like Oh, really? You literally so if you were injured and you weren't practicing, you had to gear up full pads. You may not take your helmet off,
18:32Speaker 4stand on that sideline. You also had to but 1st, you had to gear up helmet on and go into the training room. And if you had an injured right leg, you're on the bike with your 1 leg inside wearing all of your gear.
18:45Speaker 4It sure makes you be like, okay, did. I'm good. Like, I'm gonna go run. Can I play? Going back on the field. Yeah. I remember those days.
18:54Speaker 3I never missed the game.
18:56Speaker 4I played hurt. Yep. Absolutely. Especially in college, you start to realize like, man. Oh, I freaking love it. Yes. We all done it right. And I broke my thumb. My thumb was in my wrist. Know, I was like in the huddle, I think something's wrong. And so cut 13 more passes a game. Dude, that's a great And, yeah, just take it up there.
19:13Speaker 4Let's get to the business. Yeah. Yeah. So we got 2
19:16Speaker 32. Today is the peptide of the week, but, we're gonna do 2 compounds that are not peptides.
19:21Speaker 3They are categorized as peptides. Both of them, they're not either. Neither of them are peptides. We've got obviously the NAD plus, which is huge. We were thinking yesterday, should we do? And we hadn't done it in a long time because it's amazing. And then we're going to do Tesofensine.
19:36Speaker 3So last time we did that, it didn't go so well. It got pulled from YouTube. So nobody has seen us do Tesofensine.
19:42Speaker 3I think it
19:43Speaker 3stayed up on the podcast, but anyways, it got flagged on YouTube, whatever. Is what it is. We're going to dig into that. So we'll start with NAD. It's probably 1 of the more popular ones.
19:53Speaker 3Movie stars love it. A lot of people are taking it. I would say
19:57Speaker 3BPC GLP-1s and then NAD probably the 3rd. Yeah, probably. Probably. So
20:02Speaker 3dig into it, man. Tell us a little bit about NAD. 5 we have a graphic here. And 1st
20:08Speaker 4of all, I guess the big thing is, is so NAD is a co enzyme, right? It is not actually a peptide,
20:16Speaker 4semantics,
20:17Speaker 4whatever. It
20:19Speaker 4is, I'm not going to even say the name. Yeah, that's rough. Nicotinamide
20:24Speaker 4adenosine,
20:25Speaker 4I don't know, something more than that, but it's everywhere. It's everywhere in your body. Like, everything
20:32Speaker 4depends
20:33Speaker 4on NAD. Right?
20:36Speaker 4It will so here's some of the benefits. Like, NAD is is where it is it is it's working in your cells on a biological and genetic level also. Okay? So Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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21:15Speaker 1How do you wanna split it? Actually,
21:17Speaker 2dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
21:23Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
21:31Speaker 2Yeah. It's chicken shawarma.
21:33Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. It's what is creating a lot of your ATP. Synthesis,
21:50Speaker 4which is, that's what happens in your mitochondria. This is why MOTS-3C also helps with ATP
21:54Speaker 4because it is, it's helping kind of give some fuel to your mitochondria. So
22:00Speaker 4NAD is going to help with your natural energy production. Okay? And that's not caffeine energy. That's not like stimulant
22:06Speaker 4energy. That's cellular
22:09Speaker 4energies.
22:10Speaker 4Adenosine triphosphate, I will say that's the name of ATP.
22:14Speaker 4So energy production, right? DNA
22:17Speaker 4repair is actually gonna Huge. Repair some of these strands and
22:22Speaker 4cellular repair and just repair as our cells slowly die off, right? NAD is gonna repair them
22:27Speaker 4so they don't die as fast. And guess what? We are old because
22:32Speaker 4all of our cells are dying and not regenerating fast. Well, they always kind of regenerate, right? But they're not growing back and they're not regenerating building to what they once were. So it's kind of like-
22:43Speaker 3of like
22:45Speaker 3if you're taking it like SubQ, you're injecting
22:49Speaker 3autophagy,
22:50Speaker 3a dye
22:51Speaker 3off or repair. So
22:53Speaker 4kind of, because it's gonna repair those. That's why it's that's why it gets the tag as antiaging because it repairs the DNA. Yep. And like FOX-four folks, we don't ever really talk about that, but that that's that peptide's job is to just clear away dead cells. So it's kind of a nice mix on things where, like, cells will die. I don't care if you're taking NAD.
23:11Speaker 4Your cells are always dying and replicating. But this helps repair, like, DNA
23:16Speaker 4repair. Okay?
23:18Speaker 4It will and absolutely, it's gonna help your brain your brain health. Right? It's neuroprotective.
23:23Speaker 4You people will notice
23:25Speaker 4more mental clarity,
23:27Speaker 4you know,
23:28Speaker 4sharper,
23:30Speaker 4thoughts, which my brain isn't working right now. We just talked about this whole thing before. We both said, shit, I gotta, I gotta take a little bit more and it's time for me to get back on. Then it's been a while, which I will like tonight starting now.
23:44Speaker 4So heart metabolism, it's going to improve insulin sensitivity, right? Better control your lipids, which is your fats and your cardiovascular function.
23:53Speaker 4Everybody wants their heart to work better. Regulates inflammatory pathways and supports immune
23:58Speaker 4cell responses,
24:00Speaker 4everything
24:01Speaker 4in longevity genes,
24:03Speaker 4okay, regulating healthy aging. So
24:07Speaker 4there are what's this? What's this stat here? There's 500
24:10Speaker 4there's 500 enzymatic reactions depend on NAD plus It's everywhere in your body. I mean, obviously everything is made of cells, but
24:18Speaker 4our body depends on NAD and it functions very well with a lot with, with good levels of NAD.
24:25Speaker 3And
24:26Speaker 4it's important everywhere.
24:27Speaker 4The,
24:29Speaker 4this is an interesting graph. So I, this is something actually new to me. NAD
24:34Speaker 4declines dramatically with age. Okay.
24:37Speaker 4I wish I can. I'll tell you what this is later, but so at birth, a 100% age, 82%
24:42Speaker 4age, 55%
24:44Speaker 4age, 34%.
24:47Speaker 4That's a huge 3 drop off. And
24:50Speaker 4therefore
24:51Speaker 4we're meant to have this
24:53Speaker 3probably 80 to a 100%. Okay. Of NAD plus As you go down, let's talk about that for a 2nd. So as you go down where you're losing NAD, you got fatigue.
25:02Speaker 3You're going have obviously the typical brain fog. You're going to just kind of just be obviously tired.
25:07Speaker 3So if
25:09Speaker 3you're in the 40s, 50s, and 60s and you don't take this, it's time to
25:13Speaker 4sign up late 30s.
25:15Speaker 4Yes. As you write, late 30s, it's time to take NAD. I always
25:20Speaker 3tell people,
25:21Speaker 3you know, if we just always slow down and use our brains and think logical, Like to the, to the, to the compounds that most
25:28Speaker 3movie stars take
25:30Speaker 3are HGH
25:32Speaker 3entity. Why? Because they freaking work. Why would they take it? Because somebody a lot
25:37Speaker 3more intelligent than them told them to take it because it's for anti age. Unlimited resources
25:43Speaker 4and they have- Top of the knot line. More resources depend on them being in shape and right now. So
25:49Speaker 3if they do it, they probably should do it. That's why I love HGH and I'm NAD. So there's all the kind of basic
25:56Speaker 4functions.
25:59Speaker 4Then talking about there's a couple ways to take Kennedy. People have heard about these. There's with BPC NAD plus oral pills.
26:07Speaker 4You can go to a med spa and get like an NAD drip. So they tap into your actual vein
26:13Speaker 4and with a bag and drip it in there.
26:16Speaker 4Or you can buy the peptide vial, right, and reconstitute
26:21Speaker 4and draw up and sub Q injection yourself.
26:25Speaker 4Frankly, the so the pills,
26:28Speaker 4not worthwhile, folks. I would just not waste your time with the true NAD plus finished product pills.
26:34Speaker 4The
26:36Speaker 4SubQ version is, well, it's a 100% bioavailable in your body, right? You,
26:41Speaker 4it actually helps you with, absorb it real fast, but it sustains release. It stays in you a little bit, a lot longer. And the name of the game, I guess, is still just kind of level. We want, we want level amounts
26:52Speaker 4versus an IV drip. We're just blasting a whole bunch in you at 1 time, and
26:57Speaker 4then you're stopping, okay, for a while. So my suggestion is Don't do that. SubQ subQ
27:03Speaker 4route daily or 3 days a week for sure.
27:06Speaker 4It's going to be a lot better. Also the
27:09Speaker 4pills tend to mess up some people's GI tracts and have issues there. Again,
27:15Speaker 4cognitive clarity, energy, stamina, sleep recovery, cellular repair, the whole thing, cellular repair. Right?
27:22Speaker 4The
27:23Speaker 4and back to that other graph, right? This is why we
27:27Speaker 4get old guys. We get old. We look old because our because our DNA, our genes, and our cells
27:34Speaker 4just don't grow as strong. They don't repair as well. So, I mean, this just says it all. I'm
27:41Speaker 4gonna be doing a lot of a lot more NAD folks, and
27:44Speaker 4I notice it. You do? I know a lot of people I don't quite,
27:48Speaker 4I didn't write off the bat notice the mental
27:51Speaker 4energy,
27:52Speaker 4but I had noticed the look like after 2 months of taking it, my skin looks like tighter. And
27:59Speaker 4I have more physical energy and just feel a bit, feel better. Yeah. I think because
28:04Speaker 3we, a lot of people start with the 2, what we call the gateway drugs for lack of a better way to say it.
28:10Speaker 3BPC-five
28:11Speaker 3hundred, if you have an injury and then you try those, you're like, wow, that does amazing or GLP-1s,
28:17Speaker 3which are instant gratification.
28:19Speaker 3So you start there, but most peptides,
28:22Speaker 3most of the rest are not going to be the instant gratification where you feel it really necessarily.
28:27Speaker 3Need to take them for months for most. And
28:31Speaker 3it's not like you feel it. Oh wow, I feel the NAD. I mean, you can, but you're just going to notice that you look better. HGH
28:38Speaker 3is noticing you can burn fat better all of sudden. That's
28:42Speaker 3how most peptides
28:44Speaker 3are. We're humans and we are programmed to want instant gratification. 1 And that's just not how most of oftentimes
28:52Speaker 4you notice these a lot when you stop taking them. You don't really expect that was happened to me earlier.
28:59Speaker 4I took HGH for a while. I'm like, I don't even know what it's really doing. Is it doing then I stop and a month later I go down. Now I know what it was doing. Holy shit. Like I've, it's so much, my body was so much more forgiving
29:11Speaker 4on it, you know? But
29:13Speaker 4now if I'm off whatever I eat, okay, I can see that affecting me negatively. Absolutely. Whereas before it would just burn everything off. So it was kind of somewhat similar to NAD.
29:24Speaker 4So look at the bottom here. Suggested
29:27Speaker 4dosages for kind of different uses, right? General wellness.
29:31Speaker 4And I will put a caveat guys,
29:34Speaker 4they do the doctors. So a typical like IV drip and doctors are giving 2 50 micrograms, but most commonly 500
29:41Speaker 4mg, excuse me, milligram, 500 mg, even 1000 mg
29:45Speaker 4in a bag and giving it to you in 1 session. Okay.
29:49Speaker 4That's a lot, right? So thousand milligrams.
29:52Speaker 4Now it needs to be over several hours because
29:54Speaker 4NAD
29:55Speaker 4burns. And if you squeeze the IV bag and get it into you faster, it will burn like hell. So you wanna slow drip it, but
30:03Speaker 4you can take a lot if it's tolerated for the individual. So general wellness down here, like 15, 25 mg,
30:10Speaker 43 days a week. Work your way up. All of these, you do not start at any of these doses that you see folks.
30:16Speaker 4Into aging longevity,
30:18Speaker 450 mg
30:19Speaker 4to 200 mg. There are
30:23Speaker 4research and clinicians
30:25Speaker 4like telling
30:26Speaker 4people, Hey, up to 200 Migs, right? 3 days a week. That's a lot
30:32Speaker 4cognitive
30:33Speaker 4performance,
30:34Speaker 425 to 75 mg daily to 3 days a week. That sounds right.
30:38Speaker 4Recovering
30:39Speaker 4fatigue,
30:40Speaker 4100 mg to 200 mg as needed. And
30:44Speaker 4then this actually says clinical and must be administered by a like medical professional, 500 mg
30:51Speaker 4daily,
30:52Speaker 4but that we're talking about is the IV bag. So
30:55Speaker 4500 to 1000, I've known people who've done the thousand
30:59Speaker 4with a doctor. Yeah.
31:01Speaker 4So then we have a little bit more details on this. So how do you So you will see So as far as the peptide is concerned, this is kind of what we're here talking about is you're buying your bottle with a lyophilized powder. Okay? You'll see 2 50 mg, you'll see 500 mg, 1000 mg. So I really just have 500 mg and thousand here. 500 mg, let's make life easy. These should always come in a bigger bottle because
31:27Speaker 4you need to add a decent amount of water in. If you have 500 mg,
31:31Speaker 4add 5 mils of water. If you do that,
31:35Speaker 4then it makes it very easy. 1 unit is even a 1 mg. Yeah. Right? So 10 is 10 mg.
31:42Speaker 4The
31:43Speaker 4thousand milligram bottle,
31:45Speaker 4you're going to add 10 mils of water and therefore the conversion or that same ratio is the exact same.
31:52Speaker 4People, you will see your
31:54Speaker 4NAD usually in an, an amber bottle.
31:58Speaker 4People ask me all the time, why why is that? Well, it's to block light.
32:02Speaker 4So
32:03Speaker 4NAD is particularly sensitive to light. It is not particularly sensitive to heat. So storing at room temp is just fine.
32:11Speaker 4It can't be too hot, but like it doesn't need to be refrigerated. And in fact, it's probably a good idea to even
32:18Speaker 4draw it up, then kind of leave leave the syringe, let it warm up to room temp. And as you inject, it will burn a little bit less,
32:25Speaker 4suggested tip. So
32:27Speaker 4on the 500
32:28Speaker 4on both of these,
32:30Speaker 4I personally generally think like 25 to 50 mg,
32:34Speaker 43 times a week is about where a person wants to be. Okay. Now
32:39Speaker 4start though at probably 10 mg,
32:42Speaker 4I would start my 1st dose would be 10 mg and I would bump up by either 5 or 10 until I get to 25 or get to 50 where you want to stop If you do too much, and I personally have done too much accidentally. Early on, I think I did like 80 mg, like the 2nd And
33:00Speaker 4and 3rd
33:02Speaker 4I did that in my stomach.
33:04Speaker 4As soon as I did it, I got some tingling in my hands and feet and it rushed up and became way more intense.
33:12Speaker 4My nasal cavity just went,
33:15Speaker 4just
33:17Speaker 4closed and flamed like this, like boom. I was sitting down luckily and luckily I've been through some weird shit before, but I had my phone in my hand. I remember in this stuff, the wave of tingling just
33:29Speaker 4came easy intense and I was paralyzed. I remember trying to like flex my hand and my stomach and like nothing would work. Woah. Brain was done and I just, so
33:37Speaker 3just breathe. This is how it is. This is how ends.
33:41Speaker 3No. This
33:42Speaker 4ain't gonna kill me. But I just breathe through it. I know that I've done some dumb things in my life, but if I was a normal person, that would have scared the hell out of me for sure. And
33:53Speaker 4I thought, okay, hey, if I get, if I'm passing out anymore, I do have a friend who's upstairs. Better let's see if I can get a yell out, but I'm not going to do that quite yet. We'll ride it out. That lasted about 15, 20 seconds or so. And then it slowly
34:06Speaker 4went away.
34:08Speaker 4My nose took a couple hours to like unclog.
34:11Speaker 4Oh, wow. And so don't do too much right off the bat.
34:15Speaker 4So when we say if tolerated,
34:18Speaker 4that means you're gonna, you need to slowly increase. Now you build a bit of a tolerance, but I know people who say, Dude, I love doing NAD where I wanna do my dose is where I do it and I get tingly,
34:30Speaker 4but they're not talking about overwhelming tingly.
34:33Speaker 4Okay. So that's okay. It's not a bad sign. You just need to know, well, swear to draw the line. Okay. I'm sure.
34:40Speaker 3Now
34:41Speaker 4I do know a 100% didn't I know people that are doing 100 mg every day.
34:46Speaker 4Okay.
34:47Speaker 4They're still alive.
34:49Speaker 3I was doing I was doing 50 pretty probably 6 or 7 days a week. Was doing it at 02:00. Yep. We've
34:56Speaker 3talked about it before, but when, I hadn't, I hadn't been taking it, but as Will said, I'd probably start taking it again. Then it's been a while and
35:03Speaker 3it's so awesome. It does so much.
35:07Speaker 3But our good friend Paul was coming on next week again,
35:10Speaker 3had suggested to take it at 2 instead of coffee because I'm a 02:00
35:14Speaker 3crash coffee guy. I get up so early
35:17Speaker 3and it worked great. And that's when I would take it. And I would take, I would kind of settle that 50 megs daily and it worked great for me. And, you know, often starting this, I have heard and I know that this can happen when you're 1st starting,
35:30Speaker 4it can actually do a little reverse job on you and you can feel a little bit tired. 1st couple of doses similar to growth hormone. When you start growth, you do feel, man, a little like worn out for the 1st couple of weeks. If you just move through that, it will go away. Your body is doing and repairing a lot of things that it's not used to, right? So it's burning off, it's burning some extra calories, you know, rebuilding your cells in the part of HGH, like rebuilding muscles.
35:55Speaker 4So that takes maybe a little toll at the beginning, but just ride it out and it should be fine.
36:01Speaker 4Again,
36:02Speaker 4IV IV drips here,
36:04Speaker 4500 mg to 1000 mg in 1 session faster, the session, the more it burns.
36:09Speaker 4So
36:10Speaker 4how about this? Here's NAD for me personally
36:13Speaker 4burns like a son of a bitch and like almost to the point where I don't wanna do it.
36:18Speaker 4So I use no sting water and it works perfect.
36:21Speaker 4And that makes it a 100% bearable, but warming it up, injecting slower, right? Digging in, just let it slowly kind of go in is going to burn a whole lot less. It's also doing that inevitably is going to reduce the risk of any type of reaction because you have your
36:37Speaker 4histamines.
36:38Speaker 4If you put a whole bunch in, you get a whole bunch more of a histamine response, right? They come rushing to the party. If you do just a little bit at a time, you're not going to get as many histamines all at once. So tip
36:48Speaker 4for other things as well.
36:50Speaker 3Yeah. Like testosterone's like that for a lot of people, a lot of people will just, if you just go slow,
36:56Speaker 3you get a lesser chance that you're going to get pipped because you're going super slow instead of just blasting all that oil into that section. It's the same thing you would testosterone. You do too much too fast, absolutely can start to make you better. I know people have even got sick.
37:10Speaker 4Which is too much hormone
37:12Speaker 4hitting you all at once. It's a shock to your body. Sure. Everybody's
37:16Speaker 3so radically different. So Will's talked about having
37:20Speaker 3a stinging forever.
37:21Speaker 3I
37:22Speaker 3remember when you had done that, I wasn't there, but I remember when you did it because you were talking about it.
37:28Speaker 3I've
37:29Speaker 3just never had that experience and it has never stung for me, you know? So
37:33Speaker 4it's everybody's just so radically different, You can do this stuff, intrabuscular tube. Want to just pop it in your thigh? Like similar to Glutathione. That's what I do. You can. Yeah.
37:44Speaker 4There we go with NAD-3s):
37:46Speaker 3great. If you have not done it and you're listening to this, you'd need to do it. Like 1 of the things that most people should start with is Epitalon, you know, and get that done. Then, but NAD is a must.
37:55Speaker 3It's a must.
37:57Speaker 3Generally speaking,
37:59Speaker 3just like if you put too much water, it's not exact on anything.
38:03Speaker 3You don't ruin the compound.
38:06Speaker 3Generally speaking, I think we've always kind of go in cycles of 1000 mg. We've always kind of gone off that kind of, you know, we've changed in the beginning, I think, how much we were telling people. Fair enough. Run it through a true cycle of 1000 megs, maybe take a month off and then run another however long it takes you to do 1000 megs. Yes. That's kind you kind of go by that. It's kind of worked well. That's a 5 gun. Yeah. So like, however many, if you need to,
38:32Speaker 4yeah, if you buy just a bottle, 1000 mg bottle,
38:35Speaker 4there's no time limit on it. If it takes you 6 months, it takes you 6 months. Right? But if you can finish that in a month while you're doing a lot, but that's okay. We did discuss
38:45Speaker 41 good idea is, Hey, in between 1000 mg, right? Give yourself a little break.
38:50Speaker 4So 2 to 4 weeks.
38:53Speaker 4And in between there's take the oral NMN,
38:57Speaker 4which is not NAD plus So NMN is the precursor to NAD plus right? So you take that, body starts being able to gives building materials essentially
39:06Speaker 4to make more NAD plus So in the midst of that
39:11Speaker 41, pull up the next slide.
39:13Speaker 4In the midst of that,
39:15Speaker 4in that break time period, NMN almost
39:18Speaker 4like it was a post cycle, right? Just like replenishing your body with the building materials for NAD and then repeat.
39:24Speaker 3I would say, over the like, Little's like way to do this would be maybe run NAD and then take a break from NAD and then run-in some MOTS-1.0 and
39:34Speaker 3then switch them. Because
39:36Speaker 3if you take MOTS-1C and SS-31for too long too, you will get run down. It will overdrive the mitochondria.
39:42Speaker 3To speak with experience. It took me a while to like figure that out, but,
39:45Speaker 4you know, live and learn. That's a good point. Good point. So there it is with NAD.
39:51Speaker 4If you haven't done it, do it. There's a reason that like every single med spa is offering this and movie stars and everybody, and it's got a big name.
40:00Speaker 4It works. There's a reason it works.
40:02Speaker 4Next thing we get into Tesofensine.
40:03Speaker 4So now that we have this up here, Tesofensine
40:07Speaker 4is definitely not a peptide.
40:09Speaker 4It's more closer to like a pharmaceutical drug.
40:13Speaker 4It's really interesting. Any of you people who have done any, well, antidepressants, like
40:19Speaker 4SSRIs,
40:20Speaker 4Zoloft,
40:21Speaker 4Wellbutrin,
40:23Speaker 4This is, well, it's a mix of mix of these. So Tesofensine
40:27Speaker 4is a triple,
40:29Speaker 4is a triple
40:31Speaker 4whatever,
40:33Speaker 3inhibitor.
40:34Speaker 4So it has a, it's a selective and SSRI, which is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, which is what Zoloft is. Okay. And serotonin
40:43Speaker 4is the neurotransmitter
40:44Speaker 4that makes you
40:45Speaker 4happy,
40:46Speaker 4but calm. Okay? So people, docs will give it to people who have anxiety and depression.
40:52Speaker 4Then you have, the dopamine reuptake
40:55Speaker 4inhibitor, which is like Wellbutrin.
40:57Speaker 4That makes you happy but energized.
41:00Speaker 4A lot of people will get that for not stopping smoking,
41:04Speaker 4and that works also. And then finally, this is a norepinephrine
41:08Speaker 4norepinephrine
41:09Speaker 4AKA noradrenaline
41:10Speaker 4reuptake inhibitor, which makes you
41:13Speaker 4happy and really energized. There's not many people I know that are taking a pure
41:18Speaker 4norepinephrine
41:19Speaker 4reuptake inhibitor. I think they do exist, but I've never
41:23Speaker 4I've been on both of these.
41:27Speaker 4Again, we talked about this last time. Like, I went to I've been to treatment and
41:30Speaker 4was depressed when I got out. Duh.
41:32Speaker 4Because I was putting, like, massively bad things in front of my brain into my body constantly, and then you stop them and you feel depressed. So I was put on serotonin,
41:41Speaker 4Zoloft for a while. It made me too sleepy. Like, I was just too, like Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox,
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42:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard. Mastercard. So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
42:16Speaker 2Yeah. It's chicken shawarma.
42:18Speaker 2Want it that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Yeah. You know, why do I wanna take, like, 4 naps a day? And then and then, Wellbutrin,
42:36Speaker 4and that helped. I got put on both of them at the same time.
42:39Speaker 4And then I I cut this 1 off. And frankly, after a while, after I was sober for a while and like had a good connection with God and people and and started living life,
42:49Speaker 4I was able to cut both of them off. And
42:52Speaker 4I will say this the the Zoloft
42:54Speaker 4is the 1, if you just stop cold turkey, there's a little bit of withdrawal symptoms. Yeah. Yeah. I think there there's said to be withdrawal symptoms than the others, but I didn't really feel it that much. But anyway, I started taking Tesofensine.
43:04Speaker 4So here is how it is all 3 of those combined, but it's not just full strength, full strength, full strength.
43:10Speaker 4It's actually a better mix, and I can't really get into the details of it, but it's
43:14Speaker 4somehow a
43:16Speaker 4natural occurring version and safer on you. But how it is, so it started
43:22Speaker 4as a treatment for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
43:25Speaker 4And then during their early neurological tests, started realizing why is every single patient losing a bunch of weight?
43:31Speaker 4Wait a minute, let's maybe switch the research. So now it's literally like 1 of the most like potent
43:37Speaker 4weight loss drugs. Well,
43:40Speaker 4GLP is knock it out of the park, but
43:42Speaker 4this is what it does. It is here to help a person lose weight. Why? But it just affects your brain. So
43:48Speaker 4it is essentially
43:50Speaker 4taking away the craving for,
43:53Speaker 4any trying to get a dopamine spike. Your brain is just happy how it is. It doesn't need its sugar. It doesn't need food for happiness. And believe it or not, I know most of you people are like, I don't go, I don't eat food for happiness, but you do. And it does provide you happiness, especially
44:08Speaker 4this heats at night.
44:09Speaker 4This stuff is crazy. Take it and you,
44:12Speaker 4JD will kind of give us a personal experience, but
44:15Speaker 4it's the sweets. I'll be eating ice cream go, this just doesn't do it for me at all. I don't know why I'm doing this. It's it does not provide the same, you know, happiness that it used to. And so what's the point? So then I don't do it. Doesn't even taste good.
44:28Speaker 4I don't get I personally don't know. I don't get fat from steak and potatoes. It's not gonna prevent me. It's not gonna reduce my hunger. Yeah. Right? I still by a large that I need food,
44:38Speaker 4but it is gonna reduce any of that bad food that just gives makes my brain artificially happy. Yeah. And that's the point.
44:44Speaker 3What have you I know you just started taking it. I know you've had some Yeah, it's definitely been an interesting 1 for me because I think I misjudged it and sometimes I have to take our own advice, which I don't always do that, but I'm giving it sometimes and not always following it. But when I had gone to Cancun, I took it for 3 days because we were studying it at that time and talking about it, I was super intrigued.
45:05Speaker 3And I went out for a wedding that I was actually going to, what do you call it? Pastor? What do you lead?
45:12Speaker 3Yeah.
45:13Speaker 3It was my cousin's wedding. It was a kind of a big ordeal
45:16Speaker 3and I was,
45:17Speaker 3I felt just so off. I felt tired off.
45:21Speaker 3Is, you know, I'm trying to break down, what did I change in my protocol?
45:25Speaker 3And that was it. So I pulled it and didn't fill that anymore. So I figured I'd left thinking it was a Tesofensine. I've never been on an SSRI.
45:33Speaker 3Thank God I never
45:36Speaker 3went to a rehab that did that because man, that's 1 of the reasons I hate Western medicine. They just here take a bunch of shit,
45:42Speaker 3get y'all these drugs and here's some more drugs. Like my wife was on like 8 drugs out of a rehab, dude.
45:47Speaker 3Did
45:48Speaker 3you fix her? You know what mean?
45:51Speaker 3That's a different subject.
45:52Speaker 3But anyway, so I, for the longest time, we'll not talk about it forever. I just wasn't a fan of it. Now we
45:58Speaker 3did, we've
45:59Speaker 3had other people on the show. We've had it, we've talked about it numerous times. Everybody's really loved it. So I've been super intrigued by it. I'm like, maybe I didn't give it a fair shake.
46:07Speaker 3And so the last month and 0.5 or so, give or take, I wasn't taking hardly any, so I did start taking it and
46:14Speaker 3gosh, it gave me a lot of energy. Right away, if I noticed it, I was like, wow, that So now I wake up and then I go downstairs
46:20Speaker 3and push coffee and I take Tesofensine and I feel
46:24Speaker 3like it wakes me up. It's
46:26Speaker 3great. I feel like focused. I
46:29Speaker 3do not feel any
46:31Speaker 3of the
46:33Speaker 3blocking of the sugar cravings. Like I'm dealing with the sugar cravings at night right now. I'm dealing with some gut stuff, so I think it has to do with some of that stuff
46:42Speaker 3because I like the sweets at night. Now I'm you. I never really had that problem now. So I wish the Tesofensine would kind of block some of that, but
46:51Speaker 3it does what I need, what I like it to do, which is that focus. But how long have you been on it right now? Probably
46:56Speaker 43 weeks. Oh, okay. About 3 weeks. I'd say because most of these antidepressants also,
47:02Speaker 4need to put some weeks in before they actually know it will work. It's definitely not like a narcotic where you just pop it and think. Now maybe the energy part of it, it is pretty fast working, but
47:12Speaker 4I'd give it a little bit longer. I mean, I would generally say 3 weeks is probably enough time for you to start to feel that,
47:18Speaker 3it's fun for me because it's not a jittery energy. It's not like a
47:23Speaker 3tweaky type, you know? It's very focused.
47:27Speaker 3When I were talking off camera about, it's a little bit Modafinally.
47:32Speaker 3I love Midafinally. I usually take a Midafinally before most podcasts because it's just super focused. If anybody's taking it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
47:40Speaker 3So it has a little bit of that flare to me. You focus a little bit more, you definitely have more energy. So the food part for me isn't that big of a deal. I'm pretty disciplined with that stuff. Can handle that stuff. So, but a lot of people say that, that it's not necessarily rivaling a GLP-three,
47:56Speaker 4but it's definitely right behind it. And a lot of research has shown me literally, I mean, they're doing, they're doing active research studies and it is proving that it's helping
48:06Speaker 4weight loss.
48:07Speaker 4But the energy for sure. I absolutely,
48:11Speaker 4it's not even artificial energy. It is just Yeah. It's the dopamine increase. It's like when your brain, if you're, if you're happy and motivated about something, you have more energy. I promise you. Like you are like, shit, I'm let's get out of bed. Let's, let's do this thing. Yeah. Right?
48:25Speaker 4Imagine every day of your life, even those who are depressed when it was Christmas morning or someday, you know, whatever today you were doing was gonna be awesome. Yeah. You were up out of bed. Yeah. And excited about it. Right? And you had energy. This is what it does. It doesn't increase your heart rate. Right? It doesn't nothing like that, but it does, it increases that dopamine. So you just feel a bit more motivated and you just, damn, I want to
48:48Speaker 4work and not take a nap and I don't want to miss any of the day because I feel happy and ready to go. I noticed that for sure. Sure.
48:55Speaker 3So
48:57Speaker 4yeah, there's your biggest,
48:59Speaker 4there's some studies here, 9 to 11% average body weight loss over 24 weeks. You can see this clinical weight loss in this trial here. What
49:09Speaker 4dosing
49:10Speaker 4is, I don't know, daily 2002
49:14Speaker 4and 50 micrograms
49:16Speaker 4to 500 micrograms on the high end 1000 micrograms. So this is what you're seeing.
49:21Speaker 4Here is for the 2 50 micrograms,
49:24Speaker 4500 micrograms
49:26Speaker 4and 1000 micrograms. Okay.
49:30Speaker 3But it's good. I mean, it's, it's definitely a good compound. So
49:34Speaker 4again,
49:36Speaker 4okay, GLP. So, so here is good.
49:39Speaker 4Let's talk about when, what types of populations, etcetera should take this. So those of you who ask us, Hey, I'm on GLP-one and I'm going to stop taking it.
49:49Speaker 4This
49:51Speaker 4is a perfect, like wean down alternative.
49:54Speaker 4Okay. You want to give yourself a break, right? The
49:57Speaker 4is going to
49:59Speaker 4well work. It works differently. So I guess in JD did ask me this, like why?
50:04Speaker 4So the GLP-1s
50:05Speaker 4are, well, Reta, let's say, take Reta because that's what everybody should be taking in. It
50:10Speaker 4also has that same same mechanism
50:13Speaker 4in your brain to make you not be looking for a dopamine spike. Okay. I think Tesofensine is stronger
50:20Speaker 4than the GLP-1s,
50:21Speaker 4but GLP-1s do give you that also. That's why you see this. My girlfriend's sending me TikTok videos of people are like,
50:27Speaker 4I don't love anybody. None of those numb because I take the bread out.
50:32Speaker 4Think it's just an excuse. It's like, maybe that made you happen this much, but Here we go. Yeah. Anyways. Anyway, so it does have that ability, okay?
50:40Speaker 4But the GLP-1s also, they are the ones that make your stomach feel full really fast because they slow your digestion. This does not do that. It's not you're gonna eat you're gonna be able to eat, but you're not eating
50:52Speaker 4for happiness spike. Right? Right.
50:55Speaker 4It so so that it's not gonna reduce your your overall hunger. And also the GLP-1s when you're not eating food. So during those phases that you don't eat, it actually
51:05Speaker 4shoots up a whole bunch of glucose to your brain and keeps your brain still working,
51:10Speaker 4not hangry, and and working at a high level. Telsifenzine is not gonna do that. You need food. It's gonna make your brain, your dopamine better,
51:18Speaker 4but that only works so much. You have no blood sugar
51:21Speaker 4and no food there to fuel your brain, it's, you're still gonna get hangry. So you still need to eat some food, but I get, I don't know. Again,
51:28Speaker 4generally it's the sweets and sugar and all that crap that makes people fat and not the substantive food,
51:35Speaker 4you know? Another, and why also helps you lose weight is those of anybody who, if you're not a very active person,
51:41Speaker 4if you're a couch potato, you start taking this, you start getting more motivated shit.
51:46Speaker 4Of sitting on the couch all night tonight, thinking I'm gonna go fold laundry. I'm gonna go for a walk, smooth. You do that on a consistent basis.
51:54Speaker 4You're going to start burning more calories and, you know, in object in motion tends to stay in motion
51:59Speaker 4object at rest tends to stay at rest. Okay.
52:02Speaker 4Domino effect either way.
52:05Speaker 4Will help you trend the other way. Yeah. I noticed it right away. Yep. It did. It pretty works, dude. I love it. So guys, I don't know. I love it. I think I'd be taking it and I like it. I did. I used to love taking naps now.
52:17Speaker 4Yes, I'm busier, but
52:19Speaker 4doesn't
52:20Speaker 3sound appealing. Totally agree with that. Taken I've the last 3 weeks. I'm not, I'm a pro NAP person, but I have not been needing NAPs. So that's been great. So that's what you're saying recommended
52:30Speaker 38
52:31Speaker 3weeks on and 4 weeks off? I don't know. Yes,
52:34Speaker 4yes, as a
52:36Speaker 4conservative to be conservative, which is kind of what I want to tell people why do as I say, and as I do, like I have, if so here's the, because of the serotonin I noticed, so I, I, there are withdrawals from a SSRI.
52:50Speaker 4So
52:51Speaker 41 of them being the brain zaps. If anybody knows what I'm talking about, then they know what I'm talking about. Your brain just kind of goes, you
52:58Speaker 4almost feel like you blacked out for 0.25 of a 2nd. That
53:02Speaker 4happens when you, when you stop all of a sudden taking SSRIs.
53:05Speaker 4Also, if you are naturally depressed and you start taking them, cool, your body's not
53:09Speaker 4keeping as much serotonin, your brain doesn't, so you will feel a bit depressed.
53:13Speaker 4So therefore,
53:14Speaker 4with this, if you take this long term, there will be some withdrawal symptoms. Probably those that I just texted. So So either if you're going to take it long term, don't stop or be smart. If you do stop, you need to slowly wean yourself down. This is another, like you said, this is another something to take, but
53:32Speaker 4this is just for information to give you guys, make an informed decision.
53:37Speaker 4Personally,
53:38Speaker 4I actually have taken, I was on this for about 4 months and then stopped for 2 weeks
53:44Speaker 4on accident
53:45Speaker 4and felt no withdrawal symptoms. And I was actually quite surprised. I thought I would, The withdrawal symptoms aren't bad though. I mean, even like serotonin, you get the brain's abs. I don't know. I think it's kind of fun anyway. The
53:58Speaker 4depression sucks if you're depressed though, because depression sucks. Depression,
54:02Speaker 3in my opinion, can be cured, but just can't move in. Yeah.
54:05Speaker 4But that's easier said than done. It's like when you're actually depressed, you know, fuck if I can get up that 1 and fix this probably, but I'm not getting up.
54:15Speaker 4I hear you. I've never been there. But
54:17Speaker 4then when you're forced to,
54:19Speaker 4that's how, again,
54:21Speaker 4motion, object motion tends to stay in motion. It gets a little bit better and better and better. You got to just, you got to lean on that moment bend down the hill, baby. But you're right. You're right. Always the base of diet,
54:32Speaker 3nutrition.
54:33Speaker 3Gosh, these things both, but like, man, you got to have that stuff in line. You're sitting, coming right off the couch, these things aren't going to shine. Yeah.
54:40Speaker 3That. And
54:42Speaker 4use them. Yes. So dosing chart
54:45Speaker 4again, I did say, so
54:48Speaker 42 50 micrograms is your low dose, lowest effective dose. It may or may not even be effective.
54:55Speaker 4500 micrograms. Here's my suggested take these in the 1st 0.5 of the day. Okay. It's going to give you energy. It's not really like heart beating,
55:02Speaker 4extra fast energy, but you still don't want to take it before bed and try to sleep. You'd probably be like, damn, I really want to go like do some stuff,
55:09Speaker 4create something. You won't sleep.
55:11Speaker 41000 micrograms is advanced. Personally, I am taking 1000 micrograms and taking 2 pills a day and I just take them in the morning. Yep. Take them in the morning together.
55:20Speaker 4This is just a kind of a titration phase. So here's, here's an example of how somebody, if they wanted to titrate up,
55:28Speaker 4that's how you can do it. And you know, Hey, everybody's brain chemistry is different. So
55:32Speaker 4if this is turning bad on you, like JD's 1st experience, then maybe you don't take it. Yeah. Okay. Timing morning
55:39Speaker 4with food optional
55:43Speaker 4and the important parts of insomnia,
55:47Speaker 3anxiety, dry
55:49Speaker 4mouth that may happen. I have had that. I haven't noticed mild heart rate increase. I've never had that. So here's the things not to do.
55:58Speaker 4Take
55:59Speaker 4other
56:00Speaker 4SSRIs
56:01Speaker 4or NRIs or MAO OIs. Okay? So you just don't wanna double up on the drug. So you don't wanna be taking Wellbutrin or or Zoloft
56:09Speaker 4and then also add in Tesofensine.
56:13Speaker 4Monitor your blood pressure.
56:15Speaker 4Don't have uncontrolled hypertension, so don't be just stressed out of your effing mind. Okay. That's a general rule. Shouldn't do that anyway. Okay.
56:25Speaker 4And if you have a history of psychiatric problems,
56:28Speaker 4well, anxiety disorders bipolar,
56:30Speaker 4like this is a brain med.
56:32Speaker 4This might
56:33Speaker 4not work right as you want it to, or might do something weird with your preexisting condition. So that one's just like, duh. I mean, you also use your brain. Yeah. Don't wanna, I don't know, jump off a building with bipolar or any other way.
56:48Speaker 4Stimulant interactions.
56:50Speaker 4Reduce caffeine. You're right. Don't take it with modafinil.
56:53Speaker 4To be honest, like I'm drinking coffee right now.
56:56Speaker 4The worry there is that it's just a little bit too, like a stimulant
57:00Speaker 3overload
57:01Speaker 4and it could kind of burn out fray those stimulant receptors.
57:06Speaker 4And I don't think it's not dangerous, but it may
57:09Speaker 4not be necessary to actually drink those extra cups of coffee.
57:14Speaker 4Unnecessary.
57:16Speaker 4That's about it. That's all that the real that I real kind of worries are regular, you know, shit, regular blood tests,
57:24Speaker 4like everything else that we ever talk about. It's probably a good idea.
57:29Speaker 4You're anxiety ridden and like, that's 1 of your verts and maybe just go slow start. If you're going to try it, just start really low and make sure that you can do it. Then you can always go up. Yeah, for sure. So if you have anxiety, this is going to give you a bit more energy. So if you're very sensitive to having anxiety with a cup of coffee, this may not be the thing for you. Hail, it might be though.
57:50Speaker 4I don't know. So there's Tesofensine,
57:54Speaker 4We're telling you about our experience and that's it and telling you what we know. We are not doctors and not the smartest people in the world and do not know anything. So don't listen to anything we say if you don't want to.
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