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1:04Speaker 0Friday. Like always, it's never not a busy Friday. We've been going through a lot, but,
1:17Speaker 2Fiance? Fiance. Well, no, no, because I have not asked her for the request. I have, the ring is being made.
1:24Speaker 2So I'm waiting for that. It's been a while too. It's been a little, I should have it now. And then I've been thinking about like, we've gone to Hawaii every year for the last 3 years.
1:38Speaker 2River, the 9 year old. And he, so we had a blast. My mother actually is like a free spirit. So when we said, hey, can you like watch him for the day? And so what River wants to do is run around the little lazy thing and jump off the rocks where it says, do not jump off the rocks. Of course. And so Allie's always complaining at him. We leave my leave in with my mom
2:00Speaker 2and we come back. They come back 2 hours later and my mom has been like, okay, so I tested it out.
2:09Speaker 2I taught him how to do flips. So he's good. He's like, say he's doing the flips into the water off of the rocks.
2:21Speaker 2I don't obey rules unless they make sense. And that's what I was taught. That's how I was taught. Like Love that. You don't obey any rule
2:28Speaker 2if it doesn't make any sense. So see a trespassing sign? That just means it's probably a cool place to be. These people aren't using the the land. Like, because we just went camping for my whole punked everywhere.
2:39Speaker 0Yeah. She's such a good spirit. She's she's a good spirit. Her her vibe, she's got my my wife's vibe. It's just she just lights up a room. She does. She's a
2:48Speaker 2good human. She's negative. Nothing negative. Mm-mm. My father told me once, he's like, you know, you ever notice for all the faults and what I complain about your mother is
2:57Speaker 2try to remember. I still have never heard her say 1 bad thing about any person, about anything.
3:03Speaker 2Like she doesn't complain. She doesn't go, this is a stupid commercial. Yeah. Rare. And I thought about it, I'm like, God damn, that's pretty hard to literally
3:16Speaker 0But yeah, right. It is kind of crazy, but like do, I get it. You know who I know that like that is, Scott, Doctor. Scott.
3:24Speaker 2known him most of my life. Never heard him say 1 negative thing about anybody. You're right. You're right. And in our conversations we've, I think we've had conversations where something like, Oh, this bad. And he doesn't like partake in that. Yeah. If he just goes, people talking shitty, he dips up.
3:38Speaker 2Okay. Good for him. So anyway, what's going on? I don't know where that came from, but yeah, my mom teaches him how to do the flips and Allie's like, oh,
3:50Speaker 2officially like enrolled in school, a block from our house. Sweet. Because she came from, like, RSM, Rancho Santa Margarita, which is 45 minutes away. So does his school, his, like, his private school. And,
4:02Speaker 2it's a pain in the ass. Like, it puts everybody in a bad mood. You gotta commute 45 minutes there and back. I can do it. Plus, it lowers the time at home to do homework and have fun. Right? So this is like sports home, homework bed. Right? That's no fun. And then it just raises everybody's stress levels. Plus
4:19Speaker 2I did this. I went to a private school in junior high and they gave us a 300 page packet of homework to do over the summer.
4:28Speaker 2he's a kid. Like, so the amount of homework that this 9 year old brings home every day is And
4:47Speaker 2So there's too much damn homework. So anyway, he will do a lot better. He'll, for the 1st time, have a community and like a neighborhood
4:53Speaker 2vibe, right? Like play sports with the kids he goes to school with, not just be a commuter.
4:58Speaker 2That's what I did in private school and I hated it until I finally got to go to a public school in high school.
5:06Speaker 2but I got to do it. I got to, you know, play sports against people who are actually good and
5:10Speaker 2in this be back with the neighborhood and have a real sense of community. So that's exciting. Riding bikes, come home when the lights come on. Yeah.
5:18Speaker 2Those stories are legit. It was like, was like, that's what you can do. We got them actually a motor scooter just now. It's in my, it's in the office, hidden with a blanket over it. If he's dangerous,
5:32Speaker 0Those are cars, man. They don't know how to drive them and they're all over the road. I'm like, dude, I've always, like numerous times. Scare the crap. Yeah, it is crazy.
5:43Speaker 2He, Albert, did no chance in hell getting in the e bike. He barely can ride a bike. He just learned how to ride a bike. Right. His dad never taught him how to ride a bike. He was he learned how to ride a bike about 3 months ago.
5:54Speaker 2I bought him a bike too 1 time to try to teach him and he didn't wanna do it. And I that night, I gave it to the poor kids down the street.
6:26Speaker 2At least she told you. Yeah. At least you don't. You probably would've. They probably would've. I've been like, well, it's a perfect way to do it. So she works in a restaurant too, so I think that's all she sees a lot. So I don't know. Maybe I'll wait till Hawaii, but that-
6:38Speaker 0don't know. Nobody's so different. Like, you know, Chad had a big like, I'm not, you know, and then like, I didn't have, I think I've told you this, but I didn't have people there to film and her family wanted me to. I'm like, not my style, man. I just wanted to propose.
6:50Speaker 0And I think I told you this, but, when I had proposed, I was nervous as hell. I knew she was gonna say yes, but I was still nervous. Got down on my knee, walking at a crystal cove. Nobody was around. Luckily
7:02Speaker 0a couple were kind of was trailing after I proposed to her and grabbed my phone and got some pictures and stuff because I was stoked that I actually had that because now we could relive that scene so to speak. And so
7:14Speaker 0I don't know if you at least have a budget. I'll do somewhere as well. Does it need to be professional? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like,
7:21Speaker 0Amy, then I don't know if you saw Justin. Was there when he did that with his, fiance and we listened. I like went up and did the rose petals and hooked him up and duh, that was dope. It was romantic.
7:37Speaker 0We did a huge wedding. I think it was more her family than like the usual. I would've like eloped just me and my girl, but you know, it's kind of depends on what they want.
7:50Speaker 2When I talked to her dad, her dad's like, you guys aren't going to be like dressed up in like tuxedos and shit. You? Mike Gunnar man.
7:57Speaker 2Cut off serious bro. Cause he thinks it's like, he's going to pay for it. No, that's not actually why
8:02Speaker 2Somebody had to announce. He's like, oh yeah, well, probably because he doesn't want to pay for it. I'm like, oh, that's a good thought. But no, I think that we will have a wedding where we will not be wearing shoes.
8:13Speaker 2So whatever that is, whatever that takes, that means it's just laid back and chill. And if it's gonna be a like we did think about destination wedding, right? But
8:29Speaker 2and expect everybody to drop $5 on plane tickets and hotels for you. So I don't like that. So if we're going to do that, then I better invite not a lot of people. I don't
8:54Speaker 0Laguna, I think it was over the cliffs. Gorgeous. It looks Have you been to cliffs there? It looks like Hawaii. I mean, it's absolutely gorgeous there. And, the city
9:05Speaker 2literally comes and counts. You can have 40 people, which was great. We were broken. Was just immediate family and it was dope. Well, I think that literally showed me an article and I think that they're banning weddings now. Really? And 1 of the big sites there, there was like a big protest group. That's the,
9:39Speaker 0I'm gonna get back to your mom on just that way of thinking, because that's right. I'm gonna teach my sons to do that. Like if that rule steps outside of your integrity,
9:47Speaker 0don't fault. Don't fault. It's a little punk rocky, but you know I mean? But it means you need to have a good head on your shoulders and be able to interpret roles right. But verify.
10:07Speaker 0I have 3 kids and 2 granddaughters. I just had a granddaughter 2 days ago. So lot of life going on in my family.
10:14Speaker 0But my son's radically different. My son Mason is the 1st brown haired kid that I had. I've had 2 toe heads
10:21Speaker 0and he came out of the womb just hungry. And Jack's is just for the athletic and Mason just loves to eat, dude. That kid loves to eat, but he's also my little lover, dude. He's just,
11:00Speaker 0Think it's supposed to rain a little bit on Sunday, which she's all bummed, but it is what it is. Do you still does she have 1 of those, like, is she getting the blow up pools? Of course. Okay. Good. Who cares? The kids will just who cares? If it rains on them, they're fine. It's their kids, man. It'll be fun. It'll be, we haven't had people over in quite some time, so that will be cool, but, that's the good stuff.
11:31Speaker 2County. Then a cliff on the other side where there's a big park canyon park where I used to walk my dog. I would walk my dog and like throw pine cones up there at Brett's house.
11:40Speaker 2I'd be like, Hey, did you ever have pine cones just lobbed in your yard? You ever noticed that? I
11:45Speaker 0was on the phone with Brett 1 time when it was super windy on the phone, literally Brett.
11:54Speaker 0was talking to him. He said, dude, my neighbor has a trampoline in their tree. And how ironic was I was looking at my office goes, looks outside to the backyard. And
12:10Speaker 0It wasn't that trampoline because he didn't live anywhere close to me, but like the wind took my trampoline and took it somewhere.
12:16Speaker 0Did you ever get it back or was it broken? We looked in the canyons and figured like- You literally couldn't drive jumping on it or something.
12:22Speaker 0Know, but they weren't. Somebody has it. So anyways, my wife bought a new 1 and Jared comes out to
12:56Speaker 0like safe and healthy and the kid is good. Yeah. So she's healthy. My daughter is a, it's crazy when your daughter has a daughter daughters,
13:04Speaker 0but you know, life gave me another swing and I'm glad I have boys because daughters are hard. Yeah.
13:17Speaker 0Dude. Yes. It is just freaking kidding. They just want to run around and break My God. My
13:28Speaker 0But then boys were here. I don't see. Dude, you know, this is gonna be cool thing is like that, like, I'm going to try to work on like, you know, kind of living like your mom where it's like, you know, I always had the most patience. I'm working on that stuff, but like let them be boys, boys. Need to break shit, dude. They need to climb shit. They're going to probably break their arms and they're going to rob, but they need to test the limits of stuff. They're full of testosterone
13:48Speaker 0and we support that in our family. You know what I mean? Not just sit in a chair for 8 hours and like study some shit. You're going to like, forget
13:57Speaker 2like, like your mom, like she touched it, feel it. That's what my wife is good at. Like she will she's like right now with she's like the science, she's some science thing. That's cool. She would take me there all the time. Have this Pacific science center in Seattle. That's how you learn. Absolutely. It was great. That's great. And right, with River the other day, we had a dresser that has been out not used for a long time. I'm like, dude, I'm done with this dresser. I said, River, come here. You're gonna help me take the trash out. He's like, I'm like, come on. Grab the axe. You're gonna we get to break some shit. And he's like, okay. Alright. Yeah. And so I put the dresser in the side and gave him an axe. Luckily, he put his baseball helmet on because I could just see this thing go bounce
14:35Speaker 2right back at him. And then he got to just just beat the hell out of this dresser, just destroy it, break it down so then I could just nicely put it in the garbage can. His mom came out about 9 times and was like, don't do that. Why? I'm like Yeah. Stuff. He's a boy. Like, he needs this 100%. And literally it was like, that's the most fun I've had in so long. Know this is what they needed. The boys just need, he needs to, they need like, they just need to be able to, yeah, loud noises
15:02Speaker 0break should use their strengths. I try to catch myself 3 when I'm like getting irritated. I'm like they're boys, dude. Yeah. Break some shit guys fighting on out. They're fighting all the time. They're gonna be, it's gonna be Mason's gonna beat him. Beat Jack's up somewhat soon. He's my
15:18Speaker 0son. Jack's was like so daring. Like he was so ballsy when he was literally kind of turned into a little crybaby. I'm trying to, I got him toughen this kid up.
15:26Speaker 0Mason's gonna whoop his ass. I'm like, Jack's gonna eat your food. Mason's gonna kick your butt dude. Like, so Mason will walk by and like bash him in the head with a toy and then Josh starts crying. I'm like, hit him back, dude. Yeah. You're his older brother. I was like, what? I'm like, dude, they're gonna be brawling, dude, whatever. Yeah.
15:42Speaker 0So they'll learn to settle in. So anyways. My sister did. I mean, judge right now, you listeners, hear you. Yeah.
15:54Speaker 2I don't know. He's like borderline the gas burgers. Right. And then, and then the younger daughter, and I remember we were in Hawaii 1 time and the boy came up to mom and said, hey. It's like she took my she took my airplane crying. She's like, you're her older brother. Take it back. Yeah. Don't
16:14Speaker 0Anyway. No crying a lot. I always say, this is the no crying section. You can cry all you want in your room. This is no crying section. Wow.
16:22Speaker 0Now that 1 you might get judged on, but whatever. It is what it is. Not perfect. No asshole. You gotta people know you know when you go out there, but can't cry. I'm like, listen, dude, I'm a father at 1st, so they can't Here's the thing with the crying, it's like, dude, especially the pain crying.
16:35Speaker 2Ugh. You fucking hurt yourself crying. Other than that, dude, stop crying. I think that, like, real I mean, kids cry about everything, and just attention. So that's very, so that's good. But now as an adult, like pain is not in, does not trigger a crying response
16:49Speaker 2for an adult. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But not for me. Right? The only thing that triggers a crying response is like my dog dying. Yeah. Like real emotional thing. So I don't know if the kids
17:00Speaker 2I get scared, but the scaredness, this pain, they think it should hurt. So it's crazy with always with kids. Right? They do something. If you look at them and go, oh my gosh, are you okay? Yeah. Bam. Cry. And for me, If you go, get up. You're fine. Yeah. I do not like it all time. Well, he didn't wanna go. You gotta hear us being a little butthole when he came, like, throwing a little fit and, like, he didn't wanna do jiu jitsu. And I'm like so I talked to him.
17:23Speaker 0He ends up getting a stripe. Right? So I tell him after I said, listen, if you didn't go, you wouldn't have got that stripe.
17:28Speaker 0And 2, there's another, there's another father there that runs a kickboxing class and he's cool. He's really hard on the son, you know, and like, I like that type of stuff. It makes, it makes him a man. So
17:44Speaker 0thing, like think 6 times. So I was going to do that with Jackson yesterday. Was gonna literally put my shoes on and be like, listen, you're either going to GJ 2, you're not going to play complain or I'm you and I are running around this and you're going to run around this parking lot 6 times. So we ended up going to, I was literally going do it because I thought that guy could get that. I'm like, well, that's, that's good. So,
18:03Speaker 0especially when you do it with him, I will do it with him because I'm gonna teach him that I'm gonna do it too. Well, I say this a lot. I mean, I'm not gonna ever ask anybody to do something that I wouldn't do. For sure. And I'm gonna teach him that you're gonna either do it or you're gonna do something else harder.
18:19Speaker 2was good. Good view. Shit, when I was in college football, if you were injured, like you had to do the most humiliating
18:25Speaker 2things like Oh, really? You literally so if you were injured and you weren't practicing, you had to gear up full pads. You may not take your helmet off,
18:32Speaker 2stand on that sideline. You also had to but 1st you had to gear up helmet on and go into the training room. And if you had an injured right leg, you're on the bike with your 1 leg inside wearing all of your gear.
18:45Speaker 2It sure makes you be like, okay, dude, I'm good. Like, I'm gonna go run. Can I play? Going back on the field. I remember those days.
18:56Speaker 2Yeah. Played hurt. Yep. Absolutely. Was in college. You start to realize like, man. Oh, I freaking loved it. Yes. We all done it right. And I broke my thumb. My thumb was in my wrist. Hear I was like in the huddle, like, I think something's wrong.
20:08Speaker 2of all, I guess the big thing is, is so NAD is a co enzyme, right? It is not actually a peptide, but
20:25Speaker 2I don't know, something more than that. But it's everywhere. It's everywhere in your body. Like, everything
20:36Speaker 2It will so here's some of the benefits. Like, NAD is is where it is it is it's working in your cells on a biological and genetic level also. Okay? So Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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21:21Speaker 1to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. And this space starts with UltraFit.
21:50Speaker 2which is, that's what happens in your mitochondria. This is why MOTS-3C also helps with ATP
22:00Speaker 2NAD is going help with your natural energy production. Okay? And that's not caffeine energy. That's not like stimulant
22:22Speaker 2cellular repair and just repair as our cells slowly die off, right? NAD is gonna repair them
22:32Speaker 2all of our cells are dying and not regenerating fast. They always kind of regenerate, right? But they're not growing back and they're not regenerating building to what they once were. So it's kind like
22:53Speaker 2kind of, because it's going to repair those. That's I say, that's why I guess the tag as antiaging because it repairs the DNA. Yep. And like FOXO-four folks, we don't ever really talk about that, but that that's that peptide's job is to just clear away dead cells. So it's kind of a nice mix on things where, like cells will die. I don't care if you're taking NAD,
23:18Speaker 2It will, and absolutely, it's gonna help your brain, your brain health, right? It's neuroprotective.
23:30Speaker 2thoughts, which my brain isn't working right now. We just talked about this whole thing before and we both said, shit, I gotta, I gotta take a little bit more and it's time for me to get back on. It's been a while, which I will like tonight starting now.
23:44Speaker 2Heart metabolism, it's going to improve insulin sensitivity, right? Better control your lipids, which is your fats
23:53Speaker 2Everybody wants their heart to work better, regulates inflammatory pathways and supports immune
24:10Speaker 2there's 500 enzymatic reactions depend on NAD plus it's everywhere in your body. I mean, obviously everything is made of cells, but
24:53Speaker 0probably 80 to 100 percent. 3 Okay. NAD plus you go down, let's talk about that for a 2nd. So as you go down where you're losing NAD, you got fatigue.
25:02Speaker 0You're to have obviously the typical brain fog. You're going to just kind of just be obviously tired.
25:21Speaker 0you know, if we just always slow down and use our brains and think logical, Like to the, to the, to the compounds that most
25:32Speaker 0entity. Why? Because they freaking work. Why would they take it? Because somebody a lot 1 more intelligent than them told them to take it because it's for anti-3s. And they
25:43Speaker 2have- The top of the knot line. More resources depend on them being in shape and right now.
25:48Speaker 0So if they do it, they probably should do it. That's why I love HGH and I'm NAD. So there's all the kind of basic,
25:58Speaker 2Then talking about, there's a couple of ways to take into it. People have heard about these. There's with BPC NAD plus oral pills.
26:07Speaker 2You can go to a med spa and get a, like an NAD drip. So they tap into your actual vein
26:28Speaker 2worthwhile folks. Would just not waste your time with the true NAD plus finished product pills. The
26:41Speaker 2it actually helps you with you absorb it real fast, but it sustains release. It stays in you a little bit a lot longer. And the name of the game, I guess, is still just kind of level. We want, we want level amounts
27:14Speaker 2Again, cognitive clarity, energy, stamina, sleep recovery, cellular repair, the whole thing about cellular repair, right? The,
27:27Speaker 2we get old guys. We get old. We look old because our because our DNA, our genes, and our cells
27:34Speaker 2just don't grow as strong. They don't repair as well. So, I mean, this just says it all. I'm
27:52Speaker 2but I had noticed the look like after 2 months of taking it, my skin looks like tighter. Yeah.
28:04Speaker 0we, a lot of people start with the 2, we call them gateway drugs for lack of a better way to say it. BPC-five
28:11Speaker 0hundred, if you have an injury and then you try those, you're like, wow, that does amazing or GLP-1s,
28:22Speaker 0most of the rest are not going to be the instant gratification where you feel it really necessarily.
28:29Speaker 0for most. And it's not like you feel it. Oh wow, I feel the NAD. I mean, you can, but you're just going to notice that you look better. HGH is noticing you can burn fat better all of a sudden. That's
28:52Speaker 2you notice these a lot when you stop taking them. You don't really expect that was happened to me earlier. Yeah, I
28:59Speaker 2took HGH for a while. I'm like, I don't even know what it's really doing. Is it doing? Then I stop and a month later I go down. Now I know what it was doing. Holy shit. Like I've, it's so much, my body was so much more forgiving on it, you know? But now if I'm off whatever I eat, okay, I can see that affecting me negatively. Whereas before it would just burn everything off. So it was kind of somewhat similar to NAD.
29:34Speaker 2They do the doctors. So a typical like IV drip and doctors are giving 2 50 micrograms, but most commonly 500
29:49Speaker 2That's a lot, right? So thousand milligrams. Now it needs to be over several hours because
29:55Speaker 2burns. If you squeeze the IV bag and get it into you faster, it will burn like hell. So you want to slow drip it, but
30:03Speaker 2you can you can take a lot if it's tolerated for the individual. So general wellness down here, like 15, 25 mgs,
30:10Speaker 23 days a week. Work your way up. All of these, you do not start at any of these doses that you see folks
30:44Speaker 2then this actually says clinical and must be administered by a like medical professional, 500 mg
31:01Speaker 2Then we have a little bit more details on this. So how do you, so you will see. So as far as the peptide is concerned, this is kind of what we're here talking about is you're buying your bottle with
31:12Speaker 2lyophilized powder. Okay? You'll see 2 50 mg, you'll see 500 mg, 1000 mg. So I really just have 500 mg and thousand here. So 500 mg, let's make life easy. These should always come in a bigger bottle because
31:31Speaker 2add 5 mils of water. If you do that, then it makes it very easy. 1 unit is even a 1 mg. Yeah. Right? So 10 units is 10 mg.
31:45Speaker 2you're going to add 10 mils of water and therefore the conversion or that same ratio is the exact same. Also people, you will see your
32:03Speaker 2NAD is particularly sensitive to light. It is not particularly sensitive to heat. So storing at room temp is is just fine. It can't be too hot, but like it doesn't need to be refrigerated. And in fact, it's probably a good idea to even
32:18Speaker 2draw it up, then kind of leave your, leave the syringe, let it warm up to room temp. And as you inject, it will burn a little bit less
32:42Speaker 2I would start my 1st dose would be 10 mg and I would bump up by either 5 or 10 until I get to 25 or get to 50 where you want to stop at. If you do too much, and I personally have done too much accidentally
33:04Speaker 2As soon as I did it, I got some tingling in my hands and feet, and it rushed up and became way more intense,
33:16Speaker 2closed and flamed like this, like, boom. I was sitting down luckily and luckily I've been through some weird shit before, but I literally had my phone in my hand. I remember in this stuff, the wave of tingling just
33:29Speaker 2and tense and I was paralyzed. I remember trying to like flex my hand and my stomach and like nothing would work. Woah. Brain was done and I just, so just
33:42Speaker 2ain't going to kill me, but I just breathe through it. I know that I've done some dumb things in my life, but if I was a normal person,
33:53Speaker 2I thought, okay, hey, if I get, if I'm passing out anymore, I do have a friend who's upstairs. Better, let's see if I can get a yell out, but I'm not gonna do that quite yet. We'll ride it out. That lasted about 15, 20 seconds or so. And then it slowly
34:18Speaker 2that means you're gonna you need to slowly increase. Now you're you build a bit of a tolerance, but I know people who say, dude, I love doing NAD where my, where I want to do my dose is where I do it and I get tingly,
34:33Speaker 2So that's okay. It's not a bad sign. You just need to know where to draw the line. Capture.
34:48Speaker 0still alive. I was doing 50. I was doing 50 pretty probably 6, or 7 days a week. I was doing it at 02:00. Because we've
34:56Speaker 0talked about it before, but when I hadn't been taking it, but as Will said, I'd probably start taking it again because it's been a while and
35:07Speaker 0But our good friend Paul was coming on next week again is, he had suggested to take it at 2 instead of coffee because I'm a 02:00
35:17Speaker 0it worked great. And that's when I would take it. And I would take, I would kind of settle that 50 megs daily and it worked great for me. And, know, often starting this, I have heard, and I know that this can happen when you're 1st starting,
35:30Speaker 2it can actually do a little reverse job on you and you can feel a little bit tired. The 1st couple of doses, similar to growth hormone. When you start growth, you do feel man, a little life worn out for the 1st couple of weeks. If you just move through that, it will go away.
35:43Speaker 2Your body is doing and repairing a lot of things that it's not used to. So it's burning off, well, it's burning some extra calories, you know, rebuilding your cells in the part of HGH, like rebuilding muscles.
35:55Speaker 2So that takes maybe a little toll at the beginning, but just ride it out and it should be fine.
36:26Speaker 2Injecting in, just let it slowly kind of go in is gonna burn a whole lot less. It's also doing that inevitably is going to reduce the risk of any type of reaction because you have your
36:38Speaker 2if you put a whole bunch in, you get a whole bunch more of a histamine response. Right? They come rushing to the party. If you do just a little bit at a time, you're not going to get as many histamines all at once. So a tip for other things as well.
36:50Speaker 0Yeah. Testosterone is like that for a lot of people, a lot of people will just, if you just go slow,
36:56Speaker 0you get a lesser chance that you're going to get PIP because you're going super slow instead of just blasting all that oil into that section. It's the same thing with testosterone. You do too much too fast, absolutely can start to make you better. I know people even got sick.
37:12Speaker 2hitting you all at once. It's a shock to your body. Sure. Everybody's so radically different. So Will's talked about having a
37:22Speaker 2remember when you had done that, I wasn't there, but I remember when you did it because you were talking about it.
37:33Speaker 2it's everybody's just so radically different, You can do this stuff, intravascular tube. Want to just pop it in your thigh? Yeah. Like similar to Glutathione. That's what I do. You can. Yeah.
37:46Speaker 0It's great. If you've not done it and you're listening to this, you'd need to do it. Like 1 of the things that most people should start with is Epitalon, you know, and get that done. Then, but NAD is a must.
37:59Speaker 0like if you put too much water, it's not exact on anything. You don't ruin the compound.
38:06Speaker 0Generally speaking, I think we've always kind of go in cycles of 1000 mg. We've always kind of gone off that kind of, you know, we've changed in the beginning, I think, much we were telling Okay,
38:16Speaker 0fair enough. Run it through a true cycle of 1000 megs, maybe take a month off and then run another however long it takes you to do 1000 megs.
38:25Speaker 0That's of, you kind of go by that. It's kind of worked well. That's worked well. Yeah. So like however many, if you need to, yeah,
38:35Speaker 2there's no time limit on it. If it takes you 6 months, it takes you 6 months. Right? But if you can finish that in a month while you're doing a lot, but that's okay. We did discuss
38:57Speaker 2which is not NAD plus So NMN is the precursor to NAD plus So you take that, body starts being able to gives building materials essentially to make more NAD plus. So in the midst of that, in the midst of that 1, pull up the next slide. In
39:18Speaker 2almost like it was a post cycle riot, just like replenishing your body with the building materials for NAD and then repeat.
39:30Speaker 0and then take a break from NAD and then run-in some MOTS-1MQ and SS-thirty 1 and then switch them. Absolutely. Because if you take MOTS-1C and SS-31for too long too, you will get run down. It will overdrive the mitochondria.
39:41Speaker 0You speak with experience. It took me a while to like figure that out, but you know, live and learn. That's a good point. Good point. So there it is with NAD. Yeah.
39:53Speaker 2There's a reason that like every single med spa is offering this and movie stars and everybody, and it's got a big name. It works. There's a reason it works.
40:36Speaker 2and SSRI, which is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, which is what Zoloft is. And serotonin
41:27Speaker 2Again, we talked about this last time. Like, I went to I've been to treatment and was depressed when I got out. Duh.
41:32Speaker 2As I was putting, like, massively bad things in front of my brain into my body constantly, and then you stop them and you feel depressed. So I was put on serotonin,
41:41Speaker 2Zoloft for a while. It made me too sleepy. Like, I was just too, like Push your limits, train with precision,
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42:45Speaker 2Yeah. You know, why do I wanna take, like, 4 naps a day? And then and then, Wellbutrin,
42:54Speaker 2And then I I cut this 1 off. And frankly, after a while, after I was sober for a while and like had a good connection with God and people and and started living life,
43:09Speaker 2is the 1, if you just stop cold turkey, there's a little bit of withdrawal symptoms. Yeah. Yeah. I think there there's said to be withdrawal symptoms than the others, but I didn't really feel it that much. But anyway, I started taking Tesofensine.
43:40Speaker 2And then during their early neurological tests, started realizing why is every single patient losing a bunch of weight?
43:46Speaker 2Wait a minute, let's maybe switch the research. And so now it's literally like 1 of the most potent
43:57Speaker 2this is what it does. It is here to help person lose weight. Why? But it just affects your brain. So it is essentially
44:08Speaker 2any trying to get a dopamine spike. Your brain is just happy how it is. It doesn't need its sugar. It doesn't need food
44:15Speaker 2for happiness. Yeah. And believe it or not, I know most of you people are like, don't eat food for happiness, but you do and it does provide you happiness, especially
44:30Speaker 2it's the sweets. I'll be eating the ice cream and go, this just doesn't do it for me at all. I don't know why I'm doing this. It's it does not provide the same, you know, happiness that it used to, and so what's the point? So then I don't do it. Doesn't even taste good. I
44:47Speaker 2It's not going to prevent me. It's not going to reduce my hunger. Yeah. Right? I still, by a large, I need food,
44:53Speaker 0but it is going to reduce any of that bad food that just gives makes my brain artificially happy. Yeah. And that's the point. Yeah. So what have you I know you just started taking it. I know you've had some- Yeah, it's definitely been an interesting 1 for me because I think I misjudged it and sometimes I have to take our own advice, which, you know, I don't always do that, but I'm gonna give it sometimes and not always following it. But when I had gone to Cancun, I took it for 3 days and because we were studying it at that time and talking about it, I was super intrigued.
45:20Speaker 0And I went out for a wedding that I was actually going to, what do you call it? Pastor? What do you lead? Yeah.
45:40Speaker 0And that was it. So I pulled it and didn't fill that anymore. So I figured I left thinking it was a Tesofensine. I've never been in on an SSRI.
45:51Speaker 0went to a rehab that did that because man, that's 1 of the reasons I hate Western medicine. They just here take a bunch of shit,
45:56Speaker 0get y'all these drugs and here's some more drugs. Like my wife was on like 8 drugs out of a rehab dude.
46:06Speaker 0That's a different subject. But anyway, so I, for the longest time, not talk about it forever. I just wasn't a fan of it. Now we
46:14Speaker 0had other people on the show, we've had it, we've talked about it numerous times. Everybody's really loved it. So I've been super intrigued by it. I'm like, maybe I didn't give it a fair shake.
46:22Speaker 0And so the last month and 0.5 or so, give or take, I wasn't taking hardly any, so I did start taking it and
46:29Speaker 0gosh, it gave me a lot of energy. Right away, if I noticed it, I was like, wow, that So now I wake up and then I go downstairs and push coffee and I take Tesofensine and I feel like it wakes me up. It's
46:48Speaker 0blocking of the sugar cravings. Like I'm dealing with the sugar cravings at night right now. I'm dealing with some gut stuff, so I think it has to do with some of that stuff
46:56Speaker 0because I like the sweets at night. Now I'm you. Yeah. Never really had that problem now. So I wish the Tesofensine would kind of block some of that, but
47:06Speaker 0it does what I need, what I like it to do, which is that focus. But how long have you been on it now? Probably
47:17Speaker 2need to put some weeks in before they actually know it will work. It's definitely not like a narcotic where you just pop it and think. Now maybe the energy part of it, it is pretty fast working. Yeah.
47:27Speaker 2I'd give it a little bit longer. I mean, I would generally say 3 weeks is probably enough time for you to start to feel that.
47:46Speaker 0I love Modafinil. I usually take a Modafinil before most podcasts because it's just super focused. If anybody's taking it, you'll know what I'm talking about.
47:54Speaker 0So it has a little bit of that flare to me. You focus a little bit more, you definitely have more energy. So the food part for me isn't that big of a deal. I'm pretty disciplined with that stuff. I can handle that stuff.
48:10Speaker 2but it's definitely right behind it. And a lot of research is showing literally, I mean, they're doing, they're doing active research studies and it is proving that it's helping weight loss.
48:25Speaker 2and it's not even artificial energy. It is just Yeah. It's the dopamine increase. It's like when your brain If you're happy
48:33Speaker 2and motivated about something, you have more energy. I promise you. Like you are like, shit, I'm Let's get out of bed. Let's do this thing. Right?
48:40Speaker 2Imagine every day of your life, even those who are depressed when it was Christmas morning or Sunday, you know, whatever today you were doing was gonna be awesome. Yeah. You were up out of bed. Yeah. And excited about it. Right? And you had energy. This is what it does. It doesn't increase your heart rate, right? It doesn't nothing like that, but it does, it increases that dopamine. So you just feel a bit more motivated and you just, damn, I want to
49:03Speaker 2work and not take a nap and I don't want to miss any of the day because I feel happy and ready to go. I noticed that for sure. Sure.
49:13Speaker 2there's some studies here, 9 to 11% average body weight loss over 24 weeks. You can see this clinical weight loss in this trial here. What
49:57Speaker 2etcetera, should take this. So those of you who ask us, Hey, I'm on GLP-one and I'm going to stop taking it.
50:20Speaker 2are, well, Retta, let's take Retta because that's what everybody should be taking here. It
50:28Speaker 2in your brain to make you not be looking for a dopamine spike. Okay? I think Tesofensine is stronger than the GLP-1s,
50:36Speaker 2but GLP-1s do give you that also. That's why you see this. Well, my girlfriend's sending me TikTok videos of people who like,
50:42Speaker 2I don't love anybody. I have none of those numb because I take the bread out. No, I think it's just an excuse. It's like, maybe that made you happen this much. There you go. Anyway,
50:52Speaker 2so it does have that ability. Okay. But the GLP-1s also, they are the ones that make your stomach feel full really fast because they slow your digestion. This does not do that. It's not you're gonna eat you're gonna be able to eat, but you're not eating
51:11Speaker 2so that it's not gonna reduce your your overall hunger. And also the GLP-1s when you're not eating food, so during those phases that you don't eat, it actually
51:25Speaker 2not hangry and working at a high level. Tensifencine is not going to do that. You need food. It's going make your brain your dopamine better,
51:36Speaker 2no food there to fuel your brain, it's, you're still going to get hangry. You still need to eat some food, but I guess, I don't know.
51:43Speaker 2Generally it's the sweets and sugar and all that crap that makes people fat and not the substantive food,
51:50Speaker 2you know? Another, and why also helps you lose weight is those of anybody who, if you're not a very active person,
52:01Speaker 2Instead of sitting on the couch all night tonight, think I'm gonna go fold laundry. I'm gonna go for a walk, maybe. You do that on a consistent basis. Yeah. You're going to start burning more calories and, you know, in object in motion tends to stay in motion.
52:21Speaker 2the other way. Yeah. I noticed it right away. Yep. It did. It freaking works, dude. I love it. So guys, I don't know. I love it. I think I'd be taking it and I like it. I did. I used to love taking naps now.
52:35Speaker 0sound appealing. Totally agree with that. Taken I've the last 3 weeks. I'm not, I'm a pro nap person, but I've not been needing naps.
52:51Speaker 2conservative to be conservative, which is kind of what I want to tell people, I do as I say, and as I do, like I have, if so here's the, because of the serotonin I noticed, so I, I, there are withdrawals from my SSRI.
53:06Speaker 21 of them being the brain zaps. If anybody knows what I'm talking about, then they know what I'm talking about. Your brain just kind of goes, you
53:29Speaker 2with this, if you take this long term, there will be some withdrawal symptoms. Probably those that I just texted. So So either if you're going to take it long term, don't stop or be smart. If you do stop, you need to slowly wean yourself down. So this is another, like you said, this is another something to take, but
54:00Speaker 2and felt no withdrawal symptoms. And I was actually quite surprised. I thought I would, withdrawal symptoms aren't bad though. I mean, even like serotonin,
54:23Speaker 2you know, fuck if I can get up that wouldn't fix this probably, but I'm not getting up.
54:36Speaker 2motion, object motion tends to stay in motion. It gets a little bit better and better and better. You gotta just, you gotta lean on I've that moment. Been down the hill, baby. Yeah. But you're right. You're right. Always the base of diet,
54:48Speaker 0Gosh, these things both, but like, man, you got to have that stuff in line. You're sitting, coming right off the couch, these things aren't going to shine. Yeah.
55:03Speaker 22 50 micrograms is your low dose, lowest effective dose. It may or may not even be effective.
55:09Speaker 2500 micrograms. Here's my suggested take these in the 1st 0.5 of the day. Okay. It's going to give you energy. It's not really like heart beating,
55:17Speaker 2extra fast energy, but you still don't want take it before bed and try to sleep. You'd probably be like, damn, I really want to go like do some stuff.
55:26Speaker 21000 micrograms is advanced. Personally, I am taking 1000 micrograms and taking 2 pills a day and I just take them in the morning. Yep.
55:35Speaker 2This is just a kind of a titration phase. So here's, here's an example of how somebody, if they wanted to titrate up,
55:43Speaker 2that's how you can do it. And you know, Hey, everybody's brain chemistry is different. So if this is turning bad on you, like JD's 1st experience, then maybe you don't take it. Yeah. Okay. Timing morning
56:04Speaker 2mouth, that may happen. I have had that. I haven't noticed mild heart rate increase. I've never had that. So here's the things not to do.
56:16Speaker 2or NRIs or MAO eyes. Okay? So you just don't wanna double up on the drug. So you don't wanna be taking Wellbutrin or Zoloft
56:30Speaker 2Don't have uncontrolled hypertension. So don't be just stressed out of your effing mind. That's
56:48Speaker 2not work right as you want it to, or might do something weird with your preexisting condition. So that one's just like, duh. I mean, you also-
57:31Speaker 2That's about it. That's all that the real that I real kind of worries are regular, you know, shit, regular blood tests,
57:44Speaker 2anxiety ridden and like, that's 1 of your verts and maybe just go slow, start if you're going to try it, just really low and make sure that you can do it. Then you can always go up. Yeah, for sure. So, right. If you have anxiety, this is going to give you a bit more energy. So if you're very sensitive to having anxiety with a cup of coffee, this may not be the thing for you. Hail, it might be though.
58:09Speaker 2We're telling you about our experience and that's it and telling you what we know. We are not doctors and not the smartest people in the world and do not know anything. So don't listen to anything we say if you don't want to.
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