Ep 5 · 27:39
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0:15Speaker 0Man, I'll tell you what, dude, I, before we kind of get in, we're gonna drop, we're gonna dig into MOTS-seed just to let you know what the peptide of the week is. But, before we dig in, I just wanted to give a shout out to you guys, the listeners, people that are watching. I've had a lot of DMs coming through of just people that are appreciative
0:39Speaker 0from all of you. Glad that you enjoy it. Glad that you enjoy it. So, Will, this is gonna be a good 1. It's, I mean, I know I say that all week, but we're always starting with the ones that I like to take. So,
0:58Speaker 0So I wanna start there just because I would imagine a lot of people don't even know what that means. So let's dig into that 1st. MOTS- mitochondria
1:39Speaker 1and that is where, I suppose, that's where the magic happens. That's where our body reads it and that's where its activity is, that's where it starts,
2:04Speaker 1So- Yeah, like a little spark box. Like, it's inside of your cell is a what mitochondria
2:11Speaker 0spark box that's like lights up the cell. Like, it's like the you know, it would light it up if it were the light. You know what I mean? Yep, exactly. So it is a right. This is a newer
2:37Speaker 1who maybe shouldn't be taking them, but yes, the beauty is that this is just signaling kind of a natural process that's in our
2:50Speaker 0it benefits us. So enhancing the cells is gonna take food and turn it into energy. It's
3:18Speaker 1usually it's glucose, right, glucose gets fed right into generator and it powers it up and makes
3:48Speaker 1When we don't, we eat sugar. When we do not burn that sugar off, okay? When we eat sugar, converts into glucose. When we don't burn that sugar off, our body's natural
3:57Speaker 1thing to do is to now convert it into fat. Let's store it on us later in case we are starving to death at some point, right? Our body still thinks we're cavemen.
4:08Speaker 1What this will do is shut that process off, so it stops it, and it will do things to help you actually have energy right now,
4:24Speaker 0is huge. Yes. I would think most people are going to want to take it, who are listening to this, for the fat burning of the fat. Right? Don't we all wanna burn burn fat?
4:34Speaker 0So that's huge, man. I that's why I would think if you would categorize it, I would say fat burner would probably be at the top seat just because of what you said.
4:48Speaker 1the fat as well, which is essentially just breaking fat down so it can be burnt easier.
4:56Speaker 1right then and there because it's shutting down a lot of the other processes that are taking energy from you
5:10Speaker 1lift weights hard, etc. So it will enhance your performance, but it's also going to really help the resilience and integrity of your cells, which leads to anti aging,
5:47Speaker 0Less- Absolutely, what he just said, just break that down and just to kind of simplify, is it literally can slow down the aging process. That's basically what you just said. How rad is that? Yeah, pretty rad. Rad.
5:59Speaker 0So for example, like an Epitalon or something like that, it would be good to go. And I mean, I know we'll talk about some of the ones that we run with that, but it's such a wide range of what it does. I mean, a lot of peptides are like that, but I mean, it burns fat. It's going to take food and turn it into energy and it can slow down the aging process.
6:19Speaker 1Where do I sign? Right, absolutely. And people are loving it. People are getting really good results. Mean, it is 1 of the staples in stacks nowadays for Platts, and it's really
7:17Speaker 0aging, so to speak. Any other ones that would you would say would be where this MOTS-1C would shine in regards to benefits?
7:29Speaker 0that's- that's it. That's what we got. That's what- Brain function fires on it. You know, it's known. I know I've read some stuff, recently about, the cogni- cognizant
7:43Speaker 0I don't wanna say heal the brain, but make the brain work a little bit better. So that's always problem. Absolutely, which makes sense.
7:49Speaker 1Yeah. If it is, it's letting us just use more energy, and that's not just to run, that's to think, that's to do everything else. Right? And so it's clearing the path, yeah, for just higher function everywhere, your whole body, brain and body.
8:32Speaker 15 days a week, preferably on your workout days, hopefully those 5 days that you're actually working out. And
9:32Speaker 0Yeah, I think though, like we talk about often, but let's tap into this for a 2nd in regards to
9:39Speaker 0everybody's a science project and everybody's gonna react differently. So what we would say is take 1 mg a day for 5 days, the day that you work out,
9:49Speaker 0but the proper protocol from our studies and just implementing with numerous people and giving suggestions and ourselves
10:00Speaker 0start with 1 in the morning and then, 1 at night. And then if you do well and you feel good, your energy's up, then maybe try another
10:12Speaker 0energy level, brain function, all those things. It's just kind of going to be trial and error
10:17Speaker 0and just kind of see what works for each person, man. That's the best advice that we could give in regards to that. Right. And start low.
10:47Speaker 1do not eat before you take any of the peptides. Now if you're gonna take it in the morning, perfect. You haven't eaten in 8 hours,
10:54Speaker 1then great. 1st thing in the morning is awesome. But if you're thinking midday or evening,
10:59Speaker 1give yourself an hour to an hour and 0.5 before you actually do your take your dose. It will work a lot better.
11:13Speaker 0I mean, anybody that kind of watch my channels know how much I fast and I get that question all the time. Do
11:23Speaker 0on a fasted state and I'm, absolutely, that's when you should take them. I mean, the 1st thing that I do is I take my peptides when I wake up. Now, there are some
11:33Speaker 0that I take at night. So, just so you know, as Will just said, if you want them to work better, like I take GHK CU at night, I do my best to
11:43Speaker 0wait a good hour, hour and 0.5 after I've eaten right before I go to bed to take it. I'm not always perfect at it because life is life, but the best it's going to work is if you do take it in a fasted state, period. Yeah, absolutely. Right. A lot of these peptides
12:02Speaker 1it's a great idea to take them at night. That's when we build most of our muscle anyway.
12:11Speaker 1memory gets converted to long term memory, that's when our muscle really finally starts to build because our body has no stress there, right? Our body's 1st priority
12:25Speaker 1to deal with this stress and to deal with that stress. The last thing it wants to do, frankly, while you're up and alive and stressful
12:41Speaker 0I mean, that's a great subject too. I know we're taking a hard left on away from the subject of the MOTS-seven, but what would you say would be a good 1 to run a night then in regards to rebuilding? Would you talk about the secretagogues and those types? Yes, absolutely. So all the HCG secretagogues,
13:13Speaker 1a fragment of the HGH chain that only burns fat. It's part of the HGH, the 191 amino acid chain,
14:07Speaker 0Let's talk about who should take it, the easy question, then we'll dock into who should we think that who should not be taking it. Who you think should be the main focus of should be taking this?
14:20Speaker 1Yeah, I guess the answer is everybody except for the next category. It's going to help everybody.
14:29Speaker 1I wouldn't take high doses if the goal is to gain as much muscle as you possibly can. Muscle is
14:41Speaker 1and again, this thing is trying to conserve energy. So if the goal is just packing on as much muscle as possible,
14:53Speaker 1because it's trying to burn fat and trying to get rid of all the energy expensive processes.
14:59Speaker 1It's not going to just inhibit If you're taking 1 mg 5 days a week, I'm not saying you're not going to build muscle. Muscle. That's not at all the case.
15:08Speaker 1So who should not take it? I mean, should take it? Anybody who wants to burn fat, obviously, everybody can take it. Performance athletes.
15:20Speaker 1or work long hours during the day or just need some extra, know, have a job, whatever, that's requiring you to work 12 hours a day and still on your feet,
15:39Speaker 0peptide would be best for energy? This would definitely be 1 of them, you know? So if you're somebody that's dragging,
15:47Speaker 0for job or just whatever reason, I would definitely say give it a shot because it should help in regards to that. And that's why you could start with the 1 mg, but actually if that was your objective, you should be the type that should go up quicker because that's your objective. That's the focus, energy. Absolutely. Energy and I suppose anybody who is aging, which is every person, but I
16:10Speaker 1But, you know, as you're getting a little bit older, absolutely, let's start taking it. Okay? Slow down that aging process, duh.
16:22Speaker 0the anti aging is in so many of these peptides. I mean, there's so many, so like we talk about the synergy
16:36Speaker 0do a lot of them, so many of them had this anti aging qualities that is just so awesome. Especially for
16:57Speaker 0next question, there's not that many people that shouldn't take it. But this 1 in particular,
17:06Speaker 0MOTS C, so let's discuss that because this is a little different than what some of the previous podcasts that we have done. Who would you say would not be wise to run MOTS C? You know,
17:18Speaker 1well, let's see, pregnant women. I think probably that answer can go with every peptide also,
18:15Speaker 0is it worth it? Probably not. Mean, it's just- Well, there's so many other ones that can take its place, man. So if there's other ones that won't have that high of risk,
18:23Speaker 0there's just so too many other peptides that like, just keep on walking past this 1, you'll be fine. There's numerous right behind it. Absolutely.
18:34Speaker 0should, that there's not enough studies, don't, that's for sure. Also women, breastfeeding women,
18:40Speaker 0as I've read that it's not wise for them as well. So if you're a woman who is breastfeeding,
18:46Speaker 0I. E. My wife, that's 1 of the reasons you did not hear me say that my wife is on it. Yep, absolutely. Because she is currently breastfeeding. So there you go.
19:01Speaker 0run well with MOTS C? That's a long list, but let's kind of boil it down to the few that would run synergistically in your opinion, then I'll get mine.
19:14Speaker 1L Carnitine, Both of those are awesome. 5MQ, we've talked about this before, but it just helps break
19:48Speaker 1and muscle to be burnt 1st. It's putting fat in front of the line, I come into my cell, I'll burn you off
19:56Speaker 0Those 3 go hand in hand, man. I mean, there's a lot AOD would be great. The goal is fat burning, I think it is, if you're taking this. Yeah. I mean, I didn't That's funny you mentioned L- carnitine. I didn't even think about that, but the L- carnitine would be great. What I would say is my current, just so you know, my stack, just to prove, I got my 5 Amino,
20:25Speaker 0I got my AOD that I just started running. That's a newer 1. Haven't taken AOD in quite some time, but
20:34Speaker 0is tirzepatide or retrutide would go well with it as well. And I run low dose of retrutide.
20:49Speaker 0just who we are as people, I've known them a long time, not even just with peptides in life, is
20:56Speaker 0Any type of compound, you know, I know him well as well, we study them, we research them even for peptides.
21:06Speaker 0you learn a lot. But where do you find the most growth and is you implement, you try them, you see how your body
21:15Speaker 0education back to people. This is how it works for me, you know, and that's the best part. Study, implement and see how it works for you. You know, right, I've been advising clients
21:44Speaker 1So not only of my own, because everybody's body is different, right? We all react differently, so I have seen
22:02Speaker 1stacking different fat burners that just don't do the same process. It's totally fine to stack 2 fat burners as long as they are not doing the redundant
22:17Speaker 0Let's burn it. Let me ask you a question on that. That brings up a question. I would be curious on your opinion on it in regards to
22:24Speaker 0like an HGH in the morning, which is you're taking actual human growth hormone and then a secreted GOG at night.
22:30Speaker 0But I have had a lot of people ask me like, would you run a Ipamorelin or a Tesamorelin or like Ipamorelin
22:54Speaker 1I would take that in the morning. If we're actually talking about the real real actual HGH,
23:03Speaker 1our natural HGH at night. Okay? Again, this is why we build most of the muscle at night while we're sleeping.
23:19Speaker 1introduce the real thing at night when your body is trying to make a bunch of it because then your body will say I don't need it. Hey. Look how much I have. Let's slow down on my natural production. Right? That's counterproductive.
23:42Speaker 1in the morning and then at night, I have no problem taking so taking an HGH at night and then a secretagog
23:49Speaker 1at night. So HGH in the morning. Secretagog at night when your body is making its own. All the secretagogs are gonna do is just kind of boost that up. Right? Your body is not gonna have the
24:33Speaker 1telling your body make more, and the other 1 is telling your body enabling your body to actually use more. Yeah. So That's right. You have more being made. Now your body's
24:48Speaker 0Therefore, both at the same time as necessary. Which that's right there what you just said is the synergy that we speak of, the chemo growth hormone in the morning. It goes into those 2 at night and that's perfect synergy.
25:04Speaker 0you know, do what your objective is, which is to be your best virgin and to feel the best and to get the best results, that's the synergy we talk about. I love it. Right. Now,
25:20Speaker 1you're going to see doctors are prescribing actual HGH at nighttime. Well, that is the case for a person who is not creating
25:50Speaker 0is awesome, man. We can all age well. Even if you have an HGH deficiency, take some HGH.
25:58Speaker 0low, take some testosterone, man. You can age well, man. Like all you guys out there are so against supplements in any form.
26:04Speaker 1You know, man, like, age well, man. You know? Like The science is there. Like, I hate to say it like, hey, we are lucky. Right? The science is there. We know
26:23Speaker 1We are not I'm not telling you to do this, and I definitely am not a doctor. Right? Make your own dang decisions, but that's these are just opinions, and that's my opinion.
26:42Speaker 0like educate yourself and make an educated decision, man. That's the objective of this, of what we even do here. We're not perfect. We don't know everything, but we've tried a lot and we've helped a lot of people. And, we're just trying to pass that knowledge on to people, especially those who have never taken peptides, man. They're amazing. We're not saying try them all. We're trying to try 1.
27:01Speaker 0Study it, research it, and then just try it, see how you do. And most people start trying more for a reason.
27:10Speaker 0All right, brother. Well, it's always a pleasure, my friend. And, for all of you, I hope that you enjoyed it. If you would like, have any questions asked,
27:18Speaker 0or if you'd like us to talk about any peptide in particular, we plan on getting to most of them, but leave us a comment and a question and what we'll start doing is answering some of those questions maybe in the beginning, such and such.
27:30Speaker 0So leave a comment and let us know. Other than that, we will catch you next week. It's a good idea. Good night. Alright,