Peptide of the Week: MOTS-C Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-mots-c/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Welcome back. It is another episode of the Peptide of the Week. 0:05 Speaker 0: My co host and good friend of mine, Mr. Will T. Haas. 0:10 Speaker 0: Look at that dude. He's a good looking dude, ain't he, ladies? 0:15 Speaker 0: Man, I'll tell you what, dude, I, before we kind of get in, we're gonna drop, we're gonna dig into MOTS-seed just to let you know what the peptide of the week is. But, before we dig in, I just wanted to give a shout out to you guys, the listeners, people that are watching. I've had a lot of DMs coming through of just people that are appreciative 0:32 Speaker 0: and super stoked on these peptides of the week. So we appreciate the support 0:39 Speaker 0: from all of you. Glad that you enjoy it. Glad that you enjoy it. So, Will, this is gonna be a good 1. It's, I mean, I know I say that all week, but we're always starting with the ones that I like to take. So, 0:50 Speaker 0: this is another 1 that I like to take on a daily basis, 0:54 Speaker 0: and it's called the mitochondria 0:58 Speaker 0: peptide. 0:58 Speaker 0: So I wanna start there just because I would imagine a lot of people don't even know what that means. So let's dig into that 1st. MOTS- mitochondria 1:06 Speaker 0: peptide, tell us a little bit about that. Well, 1:10 Speaker 1: it is So I guess the difference is most 1:13 Speaker 1: peptides, which are just amino acid chains, 1:16 Speaker 1: are 1:17 Speaker 1: encoded, 1:19 Speaker 1: read by our nuclear 1:21 Speaker 1: DNA, 1:22 Speaker 1: whereas 1:24 Speaker 1: this and a few others 1:27 Speaker 1: are known as mitochondrial 1:29 Speaker 1: derived peptides. So they are encoded by our actual mitochondria, 1:33 Speaker 1: which is the, if you have your cell 1:36 Speaker 1: inside of the cell is kind of its generator, 1:39 Speaker 1: and that is where, I suppose, that's where the magic happens. That's where our body reads it and that's where its activity is, that's where it starts, 1:51 Speaker 1: which is where we start, you know, as a human body. 1:55 Speaker 1: Hey, we 1:56 Speaker 1: all start, we break us down into smaller little 1:59 Speaker 1: molecules and cells, and then in the middle of those cells is the mitochondria. 2:04 Speaker 1: So- Yeah, like a little spark box. Like, it's inside of your cell is a what mitochondria 2:09 Speaker 0: that's like a little 2:11 Speaker 0: spark box that's like lights up the cell. Like, it's like the you know, it would light it up if it were the light. You know what I mean? Yep, exactly. So it is a right. This is a newer 2:23 Speaker 1: class 2:25 Speaker 1: of molecules and there is a few of them that are really cool and doing a 2:31 Speaker 1: lot and people love them. 2:33 Speaker 1: And really low side effects, I guess we can get into 2:37 Speaker 1: who maybe shouldn't be taking them, but yes, the beauty is that this is just signaling kind of a natural process that's in our 2:45 Speaker 1: bodies and in our mitochondria already, and 2:50 Speaker 0: it benefits us. So enhancing the cells is gonna take food and turn it into energy. It's 2:56 Speaker 0: basically energy, cellular energy. 2:59 Speaker 0: So I think 1 of the main attacks of or main objectives of MOTS-3C is gonna be energy, 3:06 Speaker 0: right? Absolutely, 3:07 Speaker 1: right. 3:08 Speaker 1: So 3:09 Speaker 1: cellular energy regulation, 3:12 Speaker 1: again, right, that generator inside the cells needs energy. 3:15 Speaker 1: And so 3:17 Speaker 1: depending on 3:18 Speaker 1: usually it's glucose, right, glucose gets fed right into generator and it powers it up and makes 3:25 Speaker 1: it it go. So what is interesting, 3:28 Speaker 1: so this actually 3:31 Speaker 1: makes our body kind of conserve energy. So it knows, 3:35 Speaker 1: it'll know when we have high stress 3:37 Speaker 1: times and it will cut off the normal processes 3:42 Speaker 1: of 3:43 Speaker 1: storing fat, 3:44 Speaker 1: right? Storing fat, converting, well, converting sugar. 3:48 Speaker 1: When we don't, we eat sugar. When we do not burn that sugar off, okay? When we eat sugar, converts into glucose. When we don't burn that sugar off, our body's natural 3:57 Speaker 1: thing to do is to now convert it into fat. Let's store it on us later in case we are starving to death at some point, right? Our body still thinks we're cavemen. 4:08 Speaker 1: What this will do is shut that process off, so it stops it, and it will do things to help you actually have energy right now, 4:16 Speaker 1: which burning 4:18 Speaker 1: fat, throwing fat into the nucleus of the cell 4:22 Speaker 1: and That burning that for 4:24 Speaker 0: is huge. Yes. I would think most people are going to want to take it, who are listening to this, for the fat burning of the fat. Right? Don't we all wanna burn burn fat? 4:34 Speaker 0: So that's huge, man. I that's why I would think if you would categorize it, I would say fat burner would probably be at the top seat just because of what you said. 4:44 Speaker 1: Fat burners, so it is helping burn fat, helping oxidize 4:48 Speaker 1: the fat as well, which is essentially just breaking fat down so it can be burnt easier. 4:54 Speaker 1: It's gonna enhance your performance 4:56 Speaker 1: right then and there because it's shutting down a lot of the other processes that are taking energy from you 5:02 Speaker 1: and letting you actually use, 5:07 Speaker 1: letting your body do what it wants to do right now, which is let's say run, 5:10 Speaker 1: lift weights hard, etc. So it will enhance your performance, but it's also going to really help the resilience and integrity of your cells, which leads to anti aging, 5:23 Speaker 1: similar to something like NAD, 5:26 Speaker 1: and 5:27 Speaker 1: they've done studies, 5:28 Speaker 1: they've done studies on 5:31 Speaker 1: age related biomarkers in mice 5:35 Speaker 1: and 5:35 Speaker 1: studies have come back conclusively that it delays those 5:41 Speaker 1: markers. It delays the aging in mice because their cells stay newer, right? 5:47 Speaker 0: Less- Absolutely, what he just said, just break that down and just to kind of simplify, is it literally can slow down the aging process. That's basically what you just said. How rad is that? Yeah, pretty rad. Rad. 5:59 Speaker 0: So for example, like an Epitalon or something like that, it would be good to go. And I mean, I know we'll talk about some of the ones that we run with that, but it's such a wide range of what it does. I mean, a lot of peptides are like that, but I mean, it burns fat. It's going to take food and turn it into energy and it can slow down the aging process. 6:19 Speaker 1: Where do I sign? Right, absolutely. And people are loving it. People are getting really good results. Mean, it is 1 of the staples in stacks nowadays for Platts, and it's really 6:30 Speaker 1: working. 6:32 Speaker 0: Yeah, I mean, I think that that's what you just said. I think 6:36 Speaker 0: it's gaining steam. 6:39 Speaker 0: We're starting to see that quite a bit, but again, I started taking it maybe 6:45 Speaker 0: a month and 0.5 ago, 6:46 Speaker 0: And I've definitely noticed a difference. I mean, we 6:50 Speaker 0: talk about the ones that we run synergistically, 6:52 Speaker 0: so which 1 is doing what, but they all 6:55 Speaker 0: kind of compound on top of each other. 6:57 Speaker 0: But 6:58 Speaker 0: the cellular energy 7:00 Speaker 0: for me is what is amazing. It's just the big, the biggest part of it. 7:05 Speaker 0: Being old and working out so hard, I need that energy. 7:09 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 7:10 Speaker 1: Right. 7:11 Speaker 0: Yeah, yeah, me too. I feel you. So you got the burning fat, you got the anti 7:17 Speaker 0: aging, so to speak. Any other ones that would you would say would be where this MOTS-1C would shine in regards to benefits? 7:26 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of 7:29 Speaker 0: that's- that's it. That's what we got. That's what- Brain function fires on it. You know, it's known. I know I've read some stuff, recently about, the cogni- cognizant 7:39 Speaker 0: part of it is it really starts to fire the brain and help, 7:43 Speaker 0: I don't wanna say heal the brain, but make the brain work a little bit better. So that's always problem. Absolutely, which makes sense. 7:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. If it is, it's letting us just use more energy, and that's not just to run, that's to think, that's to do everything else. Right? And so it's clearing the path, yeah, for just higher function everywhere, your whole body, brain and body. 8:06 Speaker 0: Let's 8:08 Speaker 0: talk about some dosages. 8:09 Speaker 0: What would you say 8:12 Speaker 0: would be what somebody should run it at? 8:15 Speaker 1: Okay, so there is, 8:18 Speaker 1: I would suggest, 8:20 Speaker 1: more frequent dosages and actually kind of a loading phase and 8:25 Speaker 1: then a back off maintenance phase. 8:28 Speaker 1: I would start with 1 mg 8:32 Speaker 1: 5 days a week, preferably on your workout days, hopefully those 5 days that you're actually working out. And 8:40 Speaker 1: start with so I would range between 1 to 3 mg 8:43 Speaker 1: daily, but let's start with 1. I have seen people, 8:48 Speaker 1: and it's a perfectly effective use of it, to do like once 8:51 Speaker 1: a week, 8:53 Speaker 1: 5 mg, but I've noticed that people do not feel very good after doing that, 8:59 Speaker 1: almost like too much energy. 9:02 Speaker 1: And they're not so they don't feel real good. 9:05 Speaker 1: So through testing, trial and error 9:08 Speaker 1: on myself and others, 9:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, lower dose and 9:12 Speaker 1: more frequent. 9:13 Speaker 1: So 1 to 3 mg, 9:15 Speaker 1: 5 days a week, 9:18 Speaker 1: you know, maybe do that 8 weeks 9:21 Speaker 1: and then you can back down to 2 to 3 times a week, but also 1 to 3 mg. 9:26 Speaker 1: And you can continue on it indefinitely 9:31 Speaker 1: if you want to. 9:32 Speaker 0: Yeah, I think though, like we talk about often, but let's tap into this for a 2nd in regards to 9:39 Speaker 0: everybody's a science project and everybody's gonna react differently. So what we would say is take 1 mg a day for 5 days, the day that you work out, 9:49 Speaker 0: but the proper protocol from our studies and just implementing with numerous people and giving suggestions and ourselves 9:55 Speaker 0: is 1 to 3 9:57 Speaker 0: mg a day. So maybe 10:00 Speaker 0: start with 1 in the morning and then, 1 at night. And then if you do well and you feel good, your energy's up, then maybe try another 10:07 Speaker 0: 1, another milligram in the middle of the day and just see how you feel, man. I mean, 10:12 Speaker 0: energy level, brain function, all those things. It's just kind of going to be trial and error 10:17 Speaker 0: and just kind of see what works for each person, man. That's the best advice that we could give in regards to that. Right. And start low. 10:24 Speaker 1: You can always add more. Can't take it away. 10:27 Speaker 1: And I guess it should be said that the importance of taking peptides, all of these, 10:34 Speaker 1: MOTS-1.0 taking 10:35 Speaker 1: them in a fasted state. 10:37 Speaker 1: It will. They will pass that blood brain barrier a lot easier. 10:43 Speaker 1: So I would say, you know, between an hour and 0.5 to an hour, 10:47 Speaker 1: do not eat before you take any of the peptides. Now if you're gonna take it in the morning, perfect. You haven't eaten in 8 hours, 10:54 Speaker 1: then great. 1st thing in the morning is awesome. But if you're thinking midday or evening, 10:59 Speaker 1: give yourself an hour to an hour and 0.5 before you actually do your take your dose. It will work a lot better. 11:06 Speaker 1: People are spending money, these things are expensive and 11:10 Speaker 1: let's make the most of them. 11:13 Speaker 0: I mean, anybody that kind of watch my channels know how much I fast and I get that question all the time. Do 11:19 Speaker 0: I take supplements? 11:21 Speaker 0: Obviously, talking about peptides 11:23 Speaker 0: on a fasted state and I'm, absolutely, that's when you should take them. I mean, the 1st thing that I do is I take my peptides when I wake up. Now, there are some 11:33 Speaker 0: that I take at night. So, just so you know, as Will just said, if you want them to work better, like I take GHK CU at night, I do my best to 11:43 Speaker 0: wait a good hour, hour and 0.5 after I've eaten right before I go to bed to take it. I'm not always perfect at it because life is life, but the best it's going to work is if you do take it in a fasted state, period. Yeah, absolutely. Right. A lot of these peptides 11:58 Speaker 1: that are 11:59 Speaker 1: aimed at rebuilding tissue, 12:02 Speaker 1: it's a great idea to take them at night. That's when we build most of our muscle anyway. 12:07 Speaker 1: That's when 12:08 Speaker 1: our 12:09 Speaker 1: short term 12:11 Speaker 1: memory gets converted to long term memory, that's when our muscle really finally starts to build because our body has no stress there, right? Our body's 1st priority 12:21 Speaker 1: is to get us through the day, right, and use the energy 12:25 Speaker 1: to deal with this stress and to deal with that stress. The last thing it wants to do, frankly, while you're up and alive and stressful 12:32 Speaker 1: is build muscle. So those processes really only start when brain shuts down 12:38 Speaker 1: and that's 12:39 Speaker 1: the kind of rebuilding time. 12:41 Speaker 0: I mean, that's a great subject too. I know we're taking a hard left on away from the subject of the MOTS-seven, but what would you say would be a good 1 to run a night then in regards to rebuilding? Would you talk about the secretagogues and those types? Yes, absolutely. So all the HCG secretagogues, 12:58 Speaker 1: CJC-1295, 13:00 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin, 13:01 Speaker 1: GHRP-two, 13:02 Speaker 1: Geoturpy-six, 13:04 Speaker 1: Sermorelin, Tesamorelin. 13:05 Speaker 1: AOD. 13:07 Speaker 1: Yes. 13:08 Speaker 1: AOD is not an HGH secreted GOG. It's 13:13 Speaker 1: a fragment of the HGH chain that only burns fat. It's part of the HGH, the 191 amino acid chain, 13:21 Speaker 1: that it is the tail end, just that part that burns fat. 13:25 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get any of the 13:27 Speaker 1: growth hormone benefits from 13:30 Speaker 1: AOD. And it's for people who maybe don't want that for whatever reason, 13:34 Speaker 1: and there are reasons. 13:35 Speaker 1: So other thing like g like you're saying, GHK CU, TB-five hundred, BPC, 13:41 Speaker 1: great things to take 13:43 Speaker 1: at night 13:44 Speaker 1: because then we're the goal is rebuilding tissue. So, yep, absolutely. 13:50 Speaker 1: DSIP, 13:51 Speaker 1: I would say let's not take that in the morning, right? Delta 13:55 Speaker 1: sleep induced peptide, so 13:57 Speaker 1: take that at night so you sleep good, not while you're at work. 14:01 Speaker 0: That reminds me, man, we'll have to do 1 on DSIP. 14:05 Speaker 0: It's a newer 1 that we'll have to drop. 14:07 Speaker 0: Let's talk about who should take it, the easy question, then we'll dock into who should we think that who should not be taking it. Who you think should be the main focus of should be taking this? 14:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the answer is everybody except for the next category. It's going to help everybody. 14:26 Speaker 1: Unless you are 14:28 Speaker 1: well, 14:29 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take high doses if the goal is to gain as much muscle as you possibly can. Muscle is 14:38 Speaker 1: an energy expensive 14:40 Speaker 1: process, 14:41 Speaker 1: and again, this thing is trying to conserve energy. So if the goal is just packing on as much muscle as possible, 14:49 Speaker 1: this may not be the best thing to take 14:53 Speaker 1: because it's trying to burn fat and trying to get rid of all the energy expensive processes. 14:59 Speaker 1: It's not going to just inhibit If you're taking 1 mg 5 days a week, I'm not saying you're not going to build muscle. Muscle. That's not at all the case. 15:08 Speaker 1: So who should not take it? I mean, should take it? Anybody who wants to burn fat, obviously, everybody can take it. Performance athletes. 15:16 Speaker 1: If you are in any type of endurance sport 15:20 Speaker 1: or work long hours during the day or just need some extra, know, have a job, whatever, that's requiring you to work 12 hours a day and still on your feet, 15:28 Speaker 1: it's gonna give you a little bit of extra energy that you need. 15:31 Speaker 0: Yeah, because that's a question 15:34 Speaker 0: that I get in particular, would imagine you get as well, is what 15:39 Speaker 0: peptide would be best for energy? This would definitely be 1 of them, you know? So if you're somebody that's dragging, 15:46 Speaker 0: you know, 15:47 Speaker 0: for job or just whatever reason, I would definitely say give it a shot because it should help in regards to that. And that's why you could start with the 1 mg, but actually if that was your objective, you should be the type that should go up quicker because that's your objective. That's the focus, energy. Absolutely. Energy and I suppose anybody who is aging, which is every person, but I 16:08 Speaker 1: mean, no babies. 16:10 Speaker 1: But, you know, as you're getting a little bit older, absolutely, let's start taking it. Okay? Slow down that aging process, duh. 16:18 Speaker 0: It's so rad to talk about that to the degree where 16:22 Speaker 0: the anti aging is in so many of these peptides. I mean, there's so many, so like we talk about the synergy 16:29 Speaker 0: that each 1 works well and they don't all cohesively work so synergistically, 16:35 Speaker 0: but 16:36 Speaker 0: do a lot of them, so many of them had this anti aging qualities that is just so awesome. Especially for 16:45 Speaker 1: the mitochondrial 16:46 Speaker 1: derived 16:47 Speaker 1: peptides, right? Because again, that's 16:51 Speaker 1: where it all starts. Yeah. 16:53 Speaker 0: So 16:54 Speaker 0: that's always the easiest question. And a lot of times, 16:57 Speaker 0: next question, there's not that many people that shouldn't take it. But this 1 in particular, 17:02 Speaker 0: there are a few people that we would recommend should not be taking 17:06 Speaker 0: MOTS C, so let's discuss that because this is a little different than what some of the previous podcasts that we have done. Who would you say would not be wise to run MOTS C? You know, 17:18 Speaker 1: well, let's see, pregnant women. I think probably that answer can go with every peptide also, 17:24 Speaker 1: other than maybe oxytocin. 17:27 Speaker 1: But 17:28 Speaker 1: if 17:29 Speaker 1: you have cancer 17:31 Speaker 1: or have had cancer and there's 17:33 Speaker 1: a potential for it to come back, right, this is promoting 17:37 Speaker 1: energy in your cells to 17:39 Speaker 1: make new things, to grow, to, you know, to grow 17:44 Speaker 1: to yeah, so it may light that may light that cancer up. 17:49 Speaker 1: There's probably a small chance, but, you know, the riskreward, 17:52 Speaker 1: right, 17:53 Speaker 1: if that does happen, 17:55 Speaker 1: it is devastating, 17:57 Speaker 1: right, really bad consequences 17:59 Speaker 1: because nobody wants to reignite their cancer. 18:02 Speaker 1: I have a real, real good friend who battled cancer his whole childhood, 18:06 Speaker 1: and 18:07 Speaker 1: we have had to have talks about- 18:11 Speaker 1: Not just about- Yes, but other things. Dude, 18:15 Speaker 0: is it worth it? Probably not. Mean, it's just- Well, there's so many other ones that can take its place, man. So if there's other ones that won't have that high of risk, 18:23 Speaker 0: there's just so too many other peptides that like, just keep on walking past this 1, you'll be fine. There's numerous right behind it. Absolutely. 18:31 Speaker 0: So I think that what he had said, pregnant women, 18:34 Speaker 0: should, that there's not enough studies, don't, that's for sure. Also women, breastfeeding women, 18:40 Speaker 0: as I've read that it's not wise for them as well. So if you're a woman who is breastfeeding, 18:46 Speaker 0: I. E. My wife, that's 1 of the reasons you did not hear me say that my wife is on it. Yep, absolutely. Because she is currently breastfeeding. So there you go. 18:56 Speaker 0: Now my f- my favorite part is gonna be what peptides synergistically 19:01 Speaker 0: run well with MOTS C? That's a long list, but let's kind of boil it down to the few that would run synergistically in your opinion, then I'll get mine. 19:10 Speaker 1: Well, I think that 5MQ and 19:14 Speaker 1: L Carnitine, Both of those are awesome. 5MQ, we've talked about this before, but it just helps break 19:22 Speaker 1: fat down into an easier state so it can be then 19:26 Speaker 1: burnt off. L carnitine 19:28 Speaker 1: helps 19:29 Speaker 1: transfer 19:30 Speaker 1: fat into cells to 19:33 Speaker 1: be burned. And now this cell, 19:36 Speaker 1: it has way more energy and is prioritizing 19:39 Speaker 1: fat, 19:41 Speaker 1: so my 19:42 Speaker 1: MOTSY is prioritizing 19:44 Speaker 1: fat 19:45 Speaker 1: over 19:46 Speaker 1: glucose 19:48 Speaker 1: and muscle to be burnt 1st. It's putting fat in front of the line, I come into my cell, I'll burn you off 19:54 Speaker 1: to give body energy. 19:56 Speaker 0: Those 3 go hand in hand, man. I mean, there's a lot AOD would be great. The goal is fat burning, I think it is, if you're taking this. Yeah. I mean, I didn't That's funny you mentioned L- carnitine. I didn't even think about that, but the L- carnitine would be great. What I would say is my current, just so you know, my stack, just to prove, I got my 5 Amino, 20:16 Speaker 0: I my HGH, which is always in my arsenal, 20:20 Speaker 0: I got my GHKCU 20:21 Speaker 0: that I take at night, 20:23 Speaker 0: and he just said AOD. 20:25 Speaker 0: I got my AOD that I just started running. That's a newer 1. Haven't taken AOD in quite some time, but 20:31 Speaker 0: and my 20:32 Speaker 0: research shows that the GLP-one 20:34 Speaker 0: is tirzepatide or retrutide would go well with it as well. And I run low dose of retrutide. 20:41 Speaker 0: But how do we know? We try it. We try 20:44 Speaker 0: it. You know, the cool thing about, you know, and Will and I in regards to 20:49 Speaker 0: just who we are as people, I've known them a long time, not even just with peptides in life, is 20:55 Speaker 0: we study them. 20:56 Speaker 0: Any type of compound, you know, I know him well as well, we study them, we research them even for peptides. 21:04 Speaker 0: We study the protocols and dosages, 21:06 Speaker 0: you learn a lot. But where do you find the most growth and is you implement, you try them, you see how your body 21:13 Speaker 0: reacts, and then you can give that 21:15 Speaker 0: education back to people. This is how it works for me, you know, and that's the best part. Study, implement and see how it works for you. You know, right, I've been advising clients 21:28 Speaker 1: for years now- Long time. For a long time. 21:32 Speaker 1: And that's great. I 21:34 Speaker 1: get to get feedback from everyone. I mean, literally 21:37 Speaker 1: thousands of people 21:40 Speaker 1: giving me feedback on different products, 21:43 Speaker 1: different supplements. 21:44 Speaker 1: So not only of my own, because everybody's body is different, right? We all react differently, so I have seen 21:51 Speaker 1: a wide range of different reactions, likes and dislikes to every 21:55 Speaker 1: different compound peptide there is. 21:58 Speaker 1: You only know if you try. You know, 22:01 Speaker 1: just 22:02 Speaker 1: stacking different fat burners that just don't do the same process. It's totally fine to stack 2 fat burners as long as they are not doing the redundant 22:10 Speaker 1: process. 22:13 Speaker 1: Like, AOD 22:14 Speaker 1: and MOTS-3or, not at all. Great. 22:17 Speaker 0: Let's burn it. Let me ask you a question on that. That brings up a question. I would be curious on your opinion on it in regards to 22:24 Speaker 0: like an HGH in the morning, which is you're taking actual human growth hormone and then a secreted GOG at night. 22:30 Speaker 0: But I have had a lot of people ask me like, would you run a Ipamorelin or a Tesamorelin or like Ipamorelin 22:37 Speaker 0: and the CJC? 22:38 Speaker 0: Would you say, 22:40 Speaker 0: like, taking those 2 at night? Would that be too much in your opinion? 22:45 Speaker 0: Because they're similar, what they do. Yes. 22:47 Speaker 1: So if this is what you mean, 22:50 Speaker 1: I would not take HGH 22:52 Speaker 1: at night. 22:54 Speaker 1: I would take that in the morning. If we're actually talking about the real real actual HGH, 22:59 Speaker 1: our bodies, 23:00 Speaker 1: we produce most of 23:03 Speaker 1: our natural HGH at night. Okay? Again, this is why we build most of the muscle at night while we're sleeping. 23:08 Speaker 1: Our body knows that, hey, that is time. It's time to rebuild till body produces HGH. 23:16 Speaker 1: So I would not like you to actually 23:19 Speaker 1: introduce the real thing at night when your body is trying to make a bunch of it because then your body will say I don't need it. Hey. Look how much I have. Let's slow down on my natural production. Right? That's counterproductive. 23:32 Speaker 1: So give it the the real thing 23:36 Speaker 1: in the morning when your body isn't 23:39 Speaker 1: making a mouse. It's still making some, but, you know, 23:42 Speaker 1: in the morning and then at night, I have no problem taking so taking an HGH at night and then a secretagog 23:48 Speaker 1: at 23:49 Speaker 1: at night. So HGH in the morning. Secretagog at night when your body is making its own. All the secretagogs are gonna do is just kind of boost that up. Right? Your body is not gonna have the 24:01 Speaker 1: opposite reaction. It's gonna just make more. Now 24:05 Speaker 1: I would always 24:07 Speaker 1: are some on these secretagogues, 24:09 Speaker 1: there are GHRP's 24:11 Speaker 1: and there are GHRHs. 24:13 Speaker 1: I would always take both of them, take a GHRP and a GHRH 24:19 Speaker 1: at the same time. You're gonna get kind of just a synergistic 24:23 Speaker 1: benefit. That's great. So a lot them 1 of them, 24:26 Speaker 1: and frankly, maybe I need to 24:29 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say something wrong, but 1 of them is the is actually 24:33 Speaker 1: telling your body make more, and the other 1 is telling your body enabling your body to actually use more. Yeah. So That's right. You have more being made. Now your body's 24:44 Speaker 1: the other 1 is actually kinda shuttling it into your body to to actually be used. 24:48 Speaker 0: Therefore, both at the same time as necessary. Which that's right there what you just said is the synergy that we speak of, the chemo growth hormone in the morning. It goes into those 2 at night and that's perfect synergy. 24:59 Speaker 0: You know what I mean? That's using them properly to enhance and really 25:04 Speaker 0: you know, do what your objective is, which is to be your best virgin and to feel the best and to get the best results, that's the synergy we talk about. I love it. Right. Now, 25:13 Speaker 1: people may read in a clinical setting, if somebody is older or has some 25:18 Speaker 1: HGH deficiency, 25:20 Speaker 1: you're going to see doctors are prescribing actual HGH at nighttime. Well, that is the case for a person who is not creating 25:28 Speaker 1: HGH like they should. 25:30 Speaker 1: Okay? Then that's 25:32 Speaker 1: why a doctor will be basically replacing the HCH they don't have. 25:37 Speaker 1: But for those who are 25:39 Speaker 1: doing just fine there, but just want to be enhanced a bit, 25:44 Speaker 1: then morning time. 25:46 Speaker 0: And what makes me what I think about when you say that is, 25:49 Speaker 0: man, science 25:50 Speaker 0: is awesome, man. We can all age well. Even if you have an HGH deficiency, take some HGH. 25:56 Speaker 0: If your testosterone's 25:58 Speaker 0: low, take some testosterone, man. You can age well, man. Like all you guys out there are so against supplements in any form. 26:04 Speaker 1: You know, man, like, age well, man. You know? Like The science is there. Like, I hate to say it like, hey, we are lucky. Right? The science is there. We know 26:13 Speaker 1: we know how to take this stuff safely, 26:16 Speaker 1: if you just are smart about it. 26:19 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know. There may there's probably some disclaimer we should say that 26:23 Speaker 1: We are not I'm not telling you to do this, and I definitely am not a doctor. Right? Make your own dang decisions, but that's these are just opinions, and that's my opinion. 26:32 Speaker 1: So 26:33 Speaker 0: yeah. Opinions 26:34 Speaker 0: in regards to like researched opinions and studied 26:37 Speaker 0: opinions and dealing with a lot of people for a very long time. 26:41 Speaker 0: Education, 26:42 Speaker 0: like educate yourself and make an educated decision, man. That's the objective of this, of what we even do here. We're not perfect. We don't know everything, but we've tried a lot and we've helped a lot of people. And, we're just trying to pass that knowledge on to people, especially those who have never taken peptides, man. They're amazing. We're not saying try them all. We're trying to try 1. 27:01 Speaker 0: Study it, research it, and then just try it, see how you do. And most people start trying more for a reason. 27:07 Speaker 1: Right. 27:08 Speaker 1: 100%. 27:09 Speaker 1: Yep. 27:10 Speaker 0: All right, brother. Well, it's always a pleasure, my friend. And, for all of you, I hope that you enjoyed it. If you would like, have any questions asked, 27:18 Speaker 0: or if you'd like us to talk about any peptide in particular, we plan on getting to most of them, but leave us a comment and a question and what we'll start doing is answering some of those questions maybe in the beginning, such and such. 27:30 Speaker 0: So leave a comment and let us know. Other than that, we will catch you next week. It's a good idea. Good night. Alright, 27:37 Speaker 0: guys. 27:38 Speaker 1: Bye.