Ep 13 · 30:19
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0:24Speaker 0I always laugh, man. I I think it's just so funny that you and I are on a podcast. Sometimes I just pinch myself like, the hell did we get on a podcast? It's just still so funny, bro. You know what I mean? But what a freaking blessing because we get to talk about stuff that we love, man. Just so everybody knows, we are not doctors. We don't pretend to be doctors, but we are 2 dudes that study
0:47Speaker 0supplements. We study peptides because we freaking love it. We like to think we know quite a bit about them, but we're not doctors. We just like to talk about peptides.
1:08Speaker 0very quickly. We did not expect that. We just started throwing out a podcast because we wanted to talk about peptides and,
1:15Speaker 0we're stoked that everybody listens to it. So on that note, we are going to add an addition.
1:23Speaker 0So we're gonna add a, Q and A part to the peptide of the week. We will do the peptide of the week as we're doing now.
1:30Speaker 0And then we're gonna do a Q and A. So we're gonna set to, you know, a situation to where you guys can type in some questions that you would like to know about,
1:39Speaker 0some questions, just whatever on anything, and Will and I will take a good 30 minutes to 45 minutes once a week, and we will go through those questions and answer those questions for you. So that'll be addition, and we will be starting that next week. We haven't decided on the day yet,
2:17Speaker 0with, hey, here are the questions that will be addressed. Yeah, yeah. We'll go through them. I mean, like I said,
2:23Speaker 0they're going to have a lot of people ask the same type of questions. But 1 thing that I have learned from
2:27Speaker 0just having my channels on Instagram and stuff like that, I do get a lot of the same questions and that is contingent upon a lot of the reels that I make. A lot of people have certain questions on my fasting and stuff like that. So if I get a bulk of questions in the same category,
2:41Speaker 0I set out a reel and I talk about it and answer them all at the same time. So we'll be able to
2:49Speaker 0dig in a little bit deeper on subjects that we love peptides, man. I'm excited. Absolutely.
2:54Speaker 0Yeah. So today is cool, man. Today is different. We were kind of talking about what we wanted to talk about, and we're like, man, we haven't done a lot of tan. So today, we're gonna talk about
3:05Speaker 0the peptide that actually makes you tan. I bet you there's a lot of people that didn't know that you could take a peptide
3:21Speaker 0So we do want to kind of decipher the difference between the 2 of them. So let me hand it over to my partner and,
4:03Speaker 1then our pores kind of produces melanin and an effect of that is our skin color can change. And also melanin is
4:12Speaker 1is actually kind of like a natural it secretes a little bit of oil like a natural suntan lotion.
4:18Speaker 1What what really depends on is what part of the world you're from. Right now, it's like how much natural melanin you produce. You
4:31Speaker 1it so it's so it is there to help protect your skin. K? And that's what it does, to protect you from UV radiation,
4:39Speaker 0does. It helps protect you from sunburns. So somebody will pick an albino. I would imagine if you'd use this, it would help well.
4:45Speaker 1Yeah. Yes. In theory, absolutely. That is that is the goal. Now now you gotta be smart in how much you use of this. I think so Melanotan II is the more 1 that's been
4:57Speaker 1I don't know about around longer, but been popular longer. It's probably the most widely used, and it is not the 1 that I would really suggest people use. It's more available. It's a little bit cheaper. I'm talking about MTN MTN
5:10Speaker 12. So it is, think of it as kind of it's a faster ester even though it's not really an ester, but has a faster 0.5 life. So it's working really fast.
5:29Speaker 1maybe I'm going out of order, but the more popular 1, this is the 1 that I 1st ever used and my 1st couple uses
5:36Speaker 1of it, even though I did a tiny amount, right, it ruined my day of how nauseous I was all day long.
5:43Speaker 1Like bad, know, didn't actually throw up but just on the verge of feeling like you're gonna throw up all day long. Almost instantly. Almost instantly. Yeah. You also get a flush with like a lot of peptides will give you that flush red.
6:04Speaker 1you are more susceptible to nausea. M 10 1, not very not much nausea. Okay? Also, not much flushing at all either
6:11Speaker 1than 10 1. Now everybody's body is a little bit different, so these aren't gonna be just like hard, fast rules.
6:28Speaker 1really do build up in your body. Okay? So I would suggest kind of a loading phase. We can talk about specifics later, but a loading phase for 2 weeks and then you can really slowly back off.
6:39Speaker 1And you're making you're judging it by, hey. I mean, the goal is, I guess, to make yourself tan.
6:44Speaker 1There's a point where maybe you don't wanna get any more tan, so so so back off and slow down. Yeah. Also,
7:07Speaker 0That's actually really good to know because I have been using m 2, and I'm telling you, I got them everywhere, these big freckles. Yeah. Yeah.
7:44Speaker 1Blood flow, like I've done a slight bit too much, actually, probably not even too much, and I walk around all day just.
8:06Speaker 1like, clinically in some other countries and is FDA approved, I believe, for certain specific conditions. Melanotan
8:24Speaker 1They both work. Like they work incredibly well. They really do. Really well. They will not, nothing will happen to you unless you get sun.
8:34Speaker 1Yeah. K? It is not making you tan. It's making your body produce more melanin, and then when that
8:41Speaker 1sunlight hits that, boom, then it makes your skin tan. K? Yeah. So you have to have you have to see sun
8:47Speaker 1for them to work at all. Very, very, very quickly though. Very quickly. Very quickly. And they were I have seen plenty of people overdo it.
9:02Speaker 0Humans are funny people, ain't they? They are. They are funny people. You don't do it daily. It says twice a week, man. Yeah. Don't do it daily, and I would say that, you know, we
9:12Speaker 1can but a lot of 10, 2 should be done a 1st couple weeks, 3 times a week, and then you can bag it off to once a week, maybe twice a week, once a week. You be the judge based on how you how you
9:24Speaker 1you look. And if you're not getting sun, then don't keep doing more. Right. Right? Because it's not gonna help by you doing more because you're not getting any sun to actually activate it.
9:44Speaker 1And if you look right and and again, everybody's body is different, different people tan differently, some people tan really well, and then it really, really works, but it actually will help
9:53Speaker 1help again protect your skin from getting actual sunburn. Now, if you sit in the Mexican sun for 15 hours, like, you're gonna get sunburned. I don't care what you're taking, so be smart to people, please. Well, it's interesting too, and I wanna sit on that for a 2nd about the, freckles because I did not know that it was gonna be so intensely.
10:13Speaker 0Wife was telling me I was getting these freckles in the back of my and I don't even take that much, man. I just started taking it once,
10:23Speaker 0the freckles I'm getting are pretty intense in regards to the big freckles. So that alone, if you're listening to that, you don't want these big freckles, take number 1 as he's saying. Yeah. Take Melanotan 1. Yep. Just take number 1. Freckles
10:38Speaker 0Who would you say who would you say would not be somebody that should take 1 or both? Is there anybody in particular that probably should be not taking it? I would definitely say mothers, breastfeeding. Sure. Mothers
11:08Speaker 1on is, like, is actually having more melaton giving you actual higher risk of skin cancer or is just your genetic,
11:16Speaker 1you know, makeup and the food you eat gonna get is the reason that you're gonna get skin cancer regardless of the sun you get. But if you have a genetic,
11:24Speaker 0I don't know, predisposition to skin cancer, I probably wouldn't take it. Right. Which is kind of weird because if you think though that it does like block sunburns and stuff, you would actually think the opposite of that, but studies have shown that, yeah, if you are susceptible to skin cancer, do not take it. But studies have also shown what you've just said 1st too. So,
11:44Speaker 1go figure. I guess, 1 thing, I just learned this, is so pregnant women, after having a baby,
12:09Speaker 1So women, you know, be careful about taking too much if you are a mother or recently have been a mother,
12:18Speaker 1and and also women, like, realize that with everything, you know, you're a smaller body. Your body you need way less than what a man does. Yeah. Right. In everything.
12:30Speaker 01 of the things in regards to the Melanotan II is the and the difference between the 1 is the appetite suppression. You don't have that in in Melanotan 1. That is correct.
12:53Speaker 0It is FDA. I know some people that it's very important to them, to me not much, but there you go. It's been studied. That's what FDA approval does tell me. So yeah, you
13:05Speaker 0seems to be the 1 that seems to be winning the race, so to speak. Yeah, for safety, right? And they actually call it like medical
13:25Speaker 1Yeah. I I have not taken 1. Have you? I have. I've taken both of them, and I've taken you know, it's funny. I've almost
13:40Speaker 1and I have ended up usually taking 1 because it's that longer acting Esther. I think not even an Esther, but it's a longer 0.5 life. Long 10 2 generally is about 33 minutes, they say.
13:56Speaker 1have noticed that, yeah, this stuff just builds in, it builds up in you. You don't once it's like in you, you don't need a bunch. So I take
14:04Speaker 15 units of LL-one ten-one because I know it's a longer 0.5 life and so I didn't wanna have to inject it as often and I've been doing that maybe like once a month, maybe twice a month.
14:16Speaker 1yeah, I'm naturally like, I mean, I was born and raised in Seattle, Washington, you know, I'm naturally pale. When I was home growing up, if we'd go to Hawaii, I would be, you know, out of a great tan within 3 days of being back home, I'm gone
14:34Speaker 1that won't that does not happen if this stuff is coursing through my body. So I'm not taking it really to get super tan, but I take it just as maintenance to just kinda have some good color
14:46Speaker 0at all times. I would say though, just kinda going off the cuff because this is something I did in research and I actually wish I would have pulled the numbers beforehand,
14:53Speaker 0but I think the 2 sells more. I think people sell it. Does. Does do more. It does. It sure does. So it was the it's the more common.
15:02Speaker 1It is the more common. It's been what bodybuilders have been using for years. Right? They know about this to get tan for their for their competitions.
15:10Speaker 1In the right circles, people have known about this for a long, long time. But it's definitely been the more common, the most available.
15:22Speaker 1MTN-two is just the familiar choice, right? That just is what it is. It's been cheaper. It's been easier to get. Therefore, more people talk about that when somebody asks their buddy
15:31Speaker 1to give them some bro science, that's what they tell them. And so therefore, that's what they buy. I remember, I don't remember. I think it was like right in the beginning of COVID.
15:39Speaker 0When COVID hit, Will and I and just some friends of ours because there's no way we were gonna stop working out. We were doing these like hit training stuff in my backyard, and I remember that's when he 1st was telling me about this peptide that made you pan. And I remember thinking,
16:00Speaker 0that existed. I mean, like, because you've been into peptides, bro, for so freaking long. Something's longer than anybody that I know, and I would remember do you remember that? Like, I was looking at when we were all working out outside. I'm like, makes you tan. What the hell? Yeah. What the hell, but it works. Yeah. It works. It also comes in and it it it can come in a nasal spray.
16:34Speaker 1you can't mix it. Once that water hits the powder, it needs to stay refrigerated. So it either needs to be sent in
17:00Speaker 0I got a question for you because I get this out often. I'd actually like to know your answer onto this.
17:09Speaker 0What would you say that the life span is if you mix a peptide, regardless of the peptide, let's just choose whatever.
17:18Speaker 0Let's say you mix a peptide and you're going on a flight and you're flying somewhere where it's a day, would you say that those peptides go bad in that day? I would say they don't go completely inert and just not work at all. Deluded maybe.
17:37Speaker 1but it also that's such a hard question. Dude, it all depends on the- Who knows? Depends on the specific
17:50Speaker 11 thing I've been proven is when I started, when I got into this, right, I was very strict on keeping things cold. As I have heard more and more friends and people tell me like, oh, I left it out overnight or I didn't even know it was supposed to be cold and I've been doing it for me. And I'm always surprised in how well it's still everything still works. Right. So for what I previously
18:11Speaker 1just a dire need to always stay cold or else it's ruined. Like ours? Yeah. Like, that's not the case, apparently. Yeah.
18:26Speaker 1But, you know, you spend a lot of money on this stuff. You know, it will be better. It will be more effective if it is kept cold. Now there are certain certain peptides that actually don't need to be kept cold, and I think NAD, BPC,
18:40Speaker 1they don't really need to be. Super interesting. They're not that fragile. Yeah, yeah.
18:45Speaker 0I know, I mean, I mean, those are the 2 universal, man. NAD and BPC, those are the 2 of the most popular. So kind of good to know. It is good to I get a lot of questions because I travel and like, you know, when I go on vacation, I take my peptides. So, 1 of the questions I get in DMs constantly is how do I travel with them and just throw you a little trick of the trade that I've used through the years is I don't mix them till I get there.
19:09Speaker 0Bloating. Know I mean? So it blows people away. I don't I get I buy fresh bottles and I bring the water, put the water in the fridge for a while when we get there, and then I mix them when I get there. Yeah. And so right, let's make sure everybody understands, like, the peptide powder alone in its lyophilized
19:26Speaker 1does not need to be refrigerated. Although, whenever I keep them and we keep everything is always in refrigerators because Why not? It just keeps it more fresh,
19:35Speaker 1it's not required. It is when they are reconstituted. As soon as that water hits the powder,
19:49Speaker 1refrigerate them and we have warm powder and warm water and you mix them together, right? Let's just use common sense, like that is just as bad as-
20:02Speaker 0say that again because that's important. When you're mixing your peptides, that water needs to be cold.
20:08Speaker 1Yeah. Like, don't be mixing warm water in those peptides. You need to be putting that that if you, like, like I said, if like, let's say I'm flying to Mexico, right? Yep. I'm traveling. I put that water in the fridge and let it get cold and then I mix the peptides. Then you mix it. Yes. So, and then it can be out of the fridge. Cool. No problem. And then when you get there 30 minutes or so, I'd put them both in the fridge. And then once they're cold, then mix them and put them back in the fridge. Right. You know, and then another thing just really for any type of
20:46Speaker 0throw it out there just to let other people know. Just be smart, man. Think through stuff.
21:14Speaker 1What would you say about an hour and 0.5? What would be a good I would say, yeah. And so when I say fasted state, I don't mean you have to fast for 12 hours before taking it. Right. But don't have any food.
21:29Speaker 1you do your peptide. Right. So eat, give it 90 minutes at least. So if you wanna take at night. Yeah.
21:34Speaker 1Yeah. If you wanna take it at night, that's cool. Just eat 90 minutes beforehand only. That's why a lot of these are people choose the morning
21:45Speaker 0Yeah. That's something I blossom. I mean, that's what I would literally say that's probably 1 of the most questions that I get. Do because everybody knows I'm a big faster. Do I take peptides faster? And I said, Absolutely. That's what you're supposed to do. But I also have peptides that I take at night. My wife and I take a lot of peptides. We love them. We take our morning doses, right, in the morning and at night, we'll usually have a protein shake or something together.
22:14Speaker 0and the Tesamorelin, whatever I'm taking at the time, and I try to do about an hour and 0.5. So that's a good rule of thumb that seems to work for me.
22:26Speaker 0And, you know, and 1 thing that I think that we haven't touched on much that I think people are forgetting out there is,
22:33Speaker 0know, Will and I own Warrior Makers and we own a peptide company, but we do the peptide of the week podcast,
22:47Speaker 0So make sure that you jump online and take advantage of that because we offer that each week of the peptide of the week. So you'll see if you jump on Warrior Makers today, you'll see the Melanotan, 10% off.
23:03Speaker 1I guess, and do it with them what you will. Guys, I happen to take them, but really they are not sold. They're meant for research purposes. Only research. To take. Research purposes,
23:19Speaker 0in regards to, I know that we talked about some of the people that should not take a cancer. 1 thing that we didn't talk about is 1 of the things that I've read for people shouldn't take it is people with autoimmune issues. I've struggled with an autoimmune issue forever, man. I can't get this damn stuff going on in my head for fixed forever. And man, I've been taking it. So once I read that, I was kind of surprised by it. So people that have autoimmune issues, maybe Melanotan is not right for you either. Okay.
24:01Speaker 1with your skin, so it makes sense. Sure. Now autoimmune talking about autoimmune disorders, right? BPC
24:13Speaker 1have some massive flare up, then then it's what's funny with Thymosin Alpha, and you maybe don't wanna do it right then, but in general, it helps because it helps each other. Regulate
24:33Speaker 1and I have other I had a girl just send me her results, long term chart. Like, watch. Here's when I started taking BPC, here's my automated disorder, and now
24:47Speaker 0and he's been doing BPC now for 3 weeks, and those have gone from, you know, this size to this size. Well, that's rad. Do you know if he's been taking that sub q, or how's he been taking that? Sub q. Sub q? Yep. Yeah. Because you were saying the other day that was interesting in regards to because the gut, I mean, we we BPC comes from our gut. I mean, that's where it came from, and it heals the gut, but you were saying in particular, you think that you could even get better use by if you squirted it in your mouth.
25:21Speaker 0Yeah. Well, we've done a lot of research and we've talked about this a lot. Will and I have talked about it and I wanna touch on this really quickly again because,
25:30Speaker 0know, the studying that we continue to do, know, we have a chemist and we do a lot of studying on different things and we don't wanna put out products that don't work. We just refuse to. Like, life is not about money for us, but we wanna make things work, but we have studied more and more and more about the BPC in particular.
25:49Speaker 0if it does work in pill form. So we've started to get that going. So BPC pill form will be out there soon with us because we've done a lot of study, and it finally has shown that actually we think that it works. Yeah,
26:17Speaker 1down to just like, oh, didn't really have stomach pain. Also, dude, again, our gut is like our 2nd brain. It's like our brain for our
26:23Speaker 1physical body, and if that is healthy and happy, the rest of your body's gonna fall in line, which makes sense that it would help with autoimmune disorders too.
26:41Speaker 0anxious to see once we let that out and just get some feedback from people. That's 1 of the beautiful things about owning a peptide company is getting the feedback
26:50Speaker 0for people to try the different things and how they work. I'm excited to see how it works for people. See, it really does help the gut. I mean, dude, think about it, man. The food we eat, we've talked about it so much. The food is such just crap. Seed oils,
27:03Speaker 0just so much crap, man. Our guts are just being destroyed, our gut biome by just the crap sugar,
27:10Speaker 0seed oil, all the stuff in it. So man, anything that we can do to combat and help that out, man, sign us up. Absolutely.
27:23Speaker 01, Melanotan 2. Would you they're gonna be different in regards to I know how often you should take them, but any dosages, regular? Yeah.
27:32Speaker 1I would say I would dose them the same as far as the actual amount of injection. And so here is the best my what I do, I think I'm sensitive to them. Like, I get really flushed really easy.
28:14Speaker 1for any injection. I would do it at night because if it's gonna make you nauseous, cool. It's just gonna make you nauseous while you're sleeping. You'll be fine the next morning. Yep. I would do it the night before you know you're gonna get sun. Sure. Okay? I would also say, hey, like do a loading phase and then start maintenance and get to that maintenance phase pretty fast. So with Melanotan II,
28:36Speaker 1I'd say do that dose 3 times a week for week 1 and week 2. Yeah. Maybe week 3, twice a week. Yep. And you judge from there like you should, you might be able to go once a week from there, maybe just, maybe twice a week.
28:51Speaker 1Melanotan 1, I would start off with twice a week for weeks 1 and 2, and then you probably be okay with just doing once a week from then on. Yeah. If you want more tan, I would you could do a little bit more, but try to get into the sun more. It goes a long way, trust me, folks. I mean, compounds,
29:09Speaker 1you don't need it as much as you think. So go slow. Yeah. Yeah. Go slow, dude. Let it just, yeah, let it happen over time, but just like you have to get sun.
29:32Speaker 1Well, again, it builds up, so it's not like you have to do it and go run out to the sun, but the closer you are to that injection, the better. Right.
29:40Speaker 0Nice, man. Well, could we broke those down again? So again, I wanna remind everybody that we will be doing a Q and A. We'll be releasing that. I'll throw it out on 1 of my reels and I'll throw it out and let you guys know. We don't know the exact day, but we will let you know how to send us the questions and we'll take a good 30 to 45 minutes, however many questions that we have, and we'll answer your questions.
30:04Speaker 0We're looking forward to expanding, man. Yep. Yes, sir. All right. So I hope you enjoyed the podcast,