Ep 40 · 42:29
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0:16Speaker 0my friend, my cohost, William T. Haws, probably. What's up, dude? What's up, my man? Good to be here. Was funny, man. I
0:30Speaker 0Christmas is in 2 months, dude. Christmas is in 2 months, bro. Like, it just seems like it was just January, you know? Like, I remember thinking it was January, like, with the whole year ahead of us, and it's like, dude, we are almost done with the year.
0:48Speaker 0I don't know if that's the case, man. Remember? Yeah. I always, like, kinda resort back to, like, high school. Do you remember 4 years in high school? I was like, dude, this takes forever, dude. Like, what the hell?
0:59Speaker 1Crazy. Sometimes the minute it's like sometimes, right, the minutes are slow, the hours are slow,
1:13Speaker 1as you get older, you just have more on your plate, dude. You just got more on your plate and you go,
1:31Speaker 0I love what we do, man. I love this. I love I geek out on this. I love talking about it. I love just digging into this stuff. I'm so intrigued by all this stuff. So today
2:08Speaker 0Tell us, Will, and we'll dig into this because I think there's a lot going on with this peptide in general that we can discuss.
2:15Speaker 0But as always, I'll throw it to you. Tell us a little bit about what it is, what it does, why we should take it.
2:24Speaker 1I guess what people are, if we're talking about taking it, right, you're looking for Kisspeptin-54.
3:22Speaker 1That is how and that's the natural process. So basically, just like think of it this way, it kicks off the actual natural process. A lot of people are familiar with HCG.
3:49Speaker 1just does 1 thing at the very end of that cycle, okay? It just tells the luteinizing hormone, Let's go. Let's make more right now, right? Whereas Kisspeptin kind of kicks off the whole reaction naturally,
4:08Speaker 1some of the main research findings really are helping men with feelings of desire and increased libido.
4:35Speaker 1Yeah. It really worked because it produces some of the side effects that you know come along with testosterone increase.
4:42Speaker 0I mean, that's interesting. Let's talk about that because there probably would be some men like me, and I've discussed it on podcasts multiple times, but if you're new to the show, I've struggled. Everybody's different.
4:52Speaker 0Are all science projects. For some guys that I know, good friends of mine, they don't ever deal with gynecomastia
5:06Speaker 0converts to estrogen, and I'm just that guy. I've actually even had the surgery because when I was younger, even before the internet, it wasn't so freely available.
5:22Speaker 0But for you guys out there that think after you have the surgery that it can't come back, you are wrong because I'm telling you, can. Will knows because Will's known me a long time and we've discussed this umpteen times.
5:35Speaker 0I just have struggled with it. So for whatever reason, I think that I've just kind of got a good grasp on it. I hadn't struggled with it for a very long time.
5:50Speaker 0It naturally brings up your testosterone without your own testosterone bringing it down. It's not like you're injecting testosterone. It just sounded great. So I want to try every peptide, so I did.
6:05Speaker 0a few months ago, I was even talking to Will. I was like, Dude, I'm out of nowhere getting freaking gyno again. Like, what the hell is going on? And I hadn't put it together yet.
6:15Speaker 0And I started pulling things out of my stack and lo and behold, it was a Kisspeptin. So for me, gentlemen, just so you know,
6:32Speaker 0Just be careful. That's just 1 of the negatives, but obviously the positives are huge. Now,
6:40Speaker 0Will and I have talked about this numerous times. We don't fully understand it, but everybody's different. We're big fans of each zone. For you people that do not want to run testosterone,
7:01Speaker 0up your own testosterone levels. I don't think you're ever going to get what you would get if you just
7:09Speaker 0This would be a way that can help. So it can help your sperm production as well. Right. So I guess back on the testosterone, it's really interesting where
7:27Speaker 1that basically means and not their primary high. So if they were born with low testosterone, HCG apparently is not going to do much to them. Now if they,
7:36Speaker 1through their own usual, like, steroid or excessive testosterone use, have lowered their natural testosterone output now, right,
7:54Speaker 1it's not going take them any higher than that. Anybody who, if you know, have normal testosterone and it's declining because of just natural reasons, generally, HCG isn't really going to help much at all. So that's why.
8:09Speaker 1starts the entire natural process. Right? Yeah. Right, right, right. That So makes that is cool. So for anybody, yeah, suffering from low tests and doesn't want to actually try testosterone,
8:28Speaker 1and I guess the fertility portion. Yep. It's going to also increase your fertility. And, you know, everything is still being researched. This is a new
8:48Speaker 1everything. Like, you're not gonna guarantee you're gonna make a baby just because you take this, but it's worth a try.
8:58Speaker 0especially guys, we just have worked with a lot of men in regards to fitness and just coaching and personal training, blah, blah, blah. And we've seen it, men's testosterone levels have plummeted.
9:13Speaker 0So these are things that are going to help you. Fertility, the same thing. Fertility ratios are down in regards to people. So, I mean, that was the reason, that was the main reason I started taking it. I've talked about it numerous times. My bride wants to have another baby. I'm gonna leave that in God's hands, but I will do the things that I need to do to help that maybe happen. So that's why I was That was the main reason why I was taking the Kisspeptin months ago,
9:37Speaker 0because of the fertility. I mean, the cool thing about women, too, is it's gonna regulate estrogen and progesterone.
9:51Speaker 0And in today's world, I think in my opinion, for whatever that's worth, I think the food is just shaking up our hormones and just they're just all out of whack just because the food's injected with hormones and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So this is gonna help that for sure. Absolutely. And so that yes, you're right. That's cool. So men take it. It's gonna go help directly kind of create some more testosterone.
10:19Speaker 1you're taking it, what's cool is its main function for women now is to help just balance out your hormones,
10:27Speaker 1Which is perfect, right? I don't know any woman I've ever been with who hasn't talked about their hormones being out of balance.
10:34Speaker 0Right. Menstrual cycles. So it's going to regulate their menstrual cycle. Let's talk about that. I mean, it is what it is. We've dated a lot of women in our day, and I can't tell you 1 that hasn't talked about their menstrual cycle being out of whack. So this can help with that. It can help with that. And I think what we're going to talk about next, oxytocin, there's a little bit more evidence on that 1 really helping with that. But
11:00Speaker 1Boosting libido. So let's kind of sit on that for a little bit because who in the world wouldn't want that? You know what I mean? So
11:13Speaker 1We've talked about it numerous times, but we've also had a lot of people say that it doesn't work. So I don't really understand it.
12:10Speaker 0Yep, yep, yep. It's a priority because I don't, you don't hear that many people talk about it. I'm glad whoever would had mentioned this in the last Q and A, we appreciate it because I think we were talking about the Kisspeptin, but oxytocin, we were not.
12:24Speaker 0awesome together. There's a lot of similarities. Obviously, they work different, but it's a boost testosterone.
12:37Speaker 0progesterone and what is it, estrogen, which is huge. That's huge, man, in today's world. So for anybody listening,
12:45Speaker 0you ladies, this will help. Can bring down stress, too. I know that oxytocin is known to do that as well.
13:11Speaker 1The little things aren't going to stress you out as much. You're gonna sleep better, right? Just everything is everything is better and happier. So
13:19Speaker 1to be honest, I'm not quite sure in the Kisspeptin if it's because it's increasing your testosterone. Now all those good things, mental things are happening or- It makes sense. Yeah.
13:33Speaker 0gosh, man, for you men, dude, that are just like depressed and can't get out of bed and just,
13:38Speaker 0it's always testosterone levels, man. Your testosterone levels are just low, dude. It's very easy to see when a man's testosterone
13:50Speaker 1Yeah. And it's a vicious it's a domino cycle. It's like, look, dude, less testosterone, the higher estrogen, okay? The more fat that you have. The more fat that you have, the higher estrogen you have and therefore it's bringing your testosterone down and harder to burn off that fat, right? You
14:18Speaker 1because your testosterone is low and because estrogen is high and that has been high because you have too much fat.
14:27Speaker 0You go in the gym, you're tired, but you're still making yourself go, you're not seeing the results so you give up. Simple fix, man. Get your testosterone levels up. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
14:38Speaker 1Often, that's a simple fix. Right. So I guess the side effects, you mentioned that, but like really,
14:45Speaker 1side effects are so anybody who's if a man, if your testosterone increases, okay, our bodies like our normal ratio, which is this much testosterone, right, and this much estrogen,
14:54Speaker 1give or take, right? Some people have higher on the scale both ways, but everybody has their own ratio. Now, if we increase your testosterone,
15:02Speaker 1guess what? Your estrogen is gonna go try to find that same ratio, okay? If your testosterone raises
15:09Speaker 1this estrogen is gonna raise a lot. And that difference in estrogen is all bad. Basically, that's what's gonna give you estrogenic side effects, okay? That's a good way to put that. That
15:47Speaker 1if you're feeling any of those symptoms while taking Estrozole will just completely shut the estrogen
15:57Speaker 0it'll just kind of shut that estrogen down. So if your estrogen is extremely high, you can take the letrozole and it will shut it completely down. But the Rimidex
16:09Speaker 1Yes. You would have put that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arimidex is the weakest, and I shouldn't say weakest isn't a bad thing. Like, that's what every doctor's going to prescribe. That is- Sure. Because there is absolutely such a thing as just killing off too much estrogen.
16:23Speaker 1Aromacin is like is the it's not the harshest, but it is kind of the best. It is the suicidal. So it just basically goes in and just tries to kill kill off everything.
16:47Speaker 1Your joints hurt. Your cardiovascular system isn't as good. You'll start getting winded if you walk upstairs. Your joints hurt because you have no estrogen and your body's purging all the water, you might look great. You might look super lean, but you're losing like even lubrication in your joints.
17:03Speaker 1So and if you've done this, I don't know if you ask me or you, like, it's easy to tell. I could just tell 100% if my estrogen is too high or too low. 100%, yeah. And the goal is to take as little of the pills as you possibly can.
17:29Speaker 1is different. Can't just say, Go take this many pills and it'll work. Beats me. You've got to try.
17:41Speaker 1stabilize 2 weeks, then drop a little bit, incrementally lower your dose, see how you do. If symptoms come back, then oops, last week bumped back up to what I was last week, that's probably your sweet spot.
17:56Speaker 0the best is to not run Arimidex or anything like that, right? Is funny because I mean, 1st off, if you find a doctor that prescribes you testosterone, good on you because a lot don't. So that's rad. What I have seen with a lot of people where
18:10Speaker 0they start breaking out and their doctor doesn't even know that's probably estrogen, which is crazy because we know that. And that can be simply fixed by Rimadex.
18:30Speaker 0180 mg generally is where if I go above that, I do. So I'm just good with that. You know what I mean? So it takes a while to kind of find that. But again,
18:40Speaker 0I don't need to take it, so I don't take it. But a lot of doctors prescribe it and don't, they prescribe it where you don't you shouldn't just take it. Should
18:49Speaker 1take it if you need it. You know what I mean? So- Well, absolutely. You should not take I have taken it too early just when this was early on. Right? Like, if your estrogen is in check and now you take it, it's gonna kill off your estrogen, okay? And now it's gonna be too low and so your body's going, Shit, I don't have enough. Now it's gonna start trying to produce even more and you've just
19:09Speaker 1this whole plan has just backfired on you. Yeah. Because now your body's going hyperactive
19:21Speaker 0to be example, guys, like the reason we know this stuff, because we've done it for a long time and it's gonna take a while to learn your body. It's gonna take a while. It just is what it is. Trust me. It's worth it. When you can get your hormones
19:36Speaker 0meaning running at the best you at the running at the best levels for you, Your energy is the best. Your sex drive is the best.
19:49Speaker 0the peptides work better. They'll still work, but like when you are hormonally optimized, meaning you find your sweet spot, which is radically different for everybody,
19:58Speaker 0you're optimized. You are where kind of God wants you, so to speak. Good way to say that. And then the peptide just enhance it all. Yeah. And it takes a while to get there. It just does. We've done it for a long time, and it took me a long time to find it. Is what it is. It's worth it. For sure.
20:14Speaker 1good, I guess. Yeah, man. Can talk to that stuff forever, man. Yeah, right. I could go on and all Forever and ever. Of the Serms and all the other side effects that potentially come along with any, like, AES use, but maybe for another day
21:20Speaker 0Sounds good. Also, we have the the Peptide Institute research website that you guys can go to that we recommend to most people.
21:33Speaker 0that's a cool peptide. There's a lot. There's a lot. So if you are compounding it on top of testosterone, you might have the same problems as me. If you're not taking testosterone,
21:42Speaker 1I mean, you might not. Whatever. Depends on what you're taking it for, but does a lot, so give it a try. Okay. I also wanna state this, like, right, for all I know I've known JD for a while and, like, know that he's had a fitness channel and
22:01Speaker 1has estrogen issues and like literally cannot do more than 180 mg of testosterone. But we haven't forever. Which
22:23Speaker 1lot, but not in his physique because it's not taking a whole bunch. Generally, like the low smallest,
22:27Speaker 1the anabolic threshold is about 400 mg a week. At that, now it's really helping to build muscle.
23:01Speaker 0and it takes a little messing around with the numbers to figure it out though. I wish I could do more testosterone without getting big.
23:09Speaker 1You know what I mean? Like, just for the other effects and not for the physical effects. I wish I could do more. But unfortunately,
23:27Speaker 0So it's the love drug. What's the love drug all about, bro? Who should take it and why? So
23:33Speaker 1we all have I guess here's the general thing, like, we all have well, maybe have heard of oxytocin.
23:46Speaker 1and it's what men get filled with during sex. Right? Those of you men who know who's who've had sex, my guess is that post sex, you're really not feeling super duper cuddly because
24:03Speaker 1post sex, also like a woman when they just have a baby, right, they are flooded with oxytocin.
24:14Speaker 1touch and cuddle the baby. Right? And that's a survival mechanism for our children in the ancient times. Right? We want that woman
24:31Speaker 1something's gonna kill it. This is like we're talking about caveman times. This is why biology
24:50Speaker 1maybe not overwhelming. It depends how much you actually do. But that's what it does normally in the body. It also,
25:25Speaker 1It'll help men. I mean, and you can help me kind of rattle off some different things that this does. But
25:58Speaker 0you wanted extra good. My wife in general, bro, when I give her that stuff, she is sensitive, bro. So I give her this too. It'll be a doozy.
26:21Speaker 0well, not the surprise of a lot of women don't lactate well, that, okay, that's cool. I didn't know that, but there you go.
26:31Speaker 0basically swap milk. It's a common I thought it was disgusting. I don't know, whatever. Was like, what? Because my That's why women sell milk on Craigslist. I didn't know that. So my wife, you know, I think when you had Jack's, I think some of her friends weren't lactating.
26:46Speaker 0They would, would, she would give them milk and I was like, That is gnarly. Like, Woah. She's like, It's totally common. And like, I was like, Wow, just wow, I was blown away by that. So
26:55Speaker 0interesting. So this will help if you're 1 of those ladies that come, you know, have that problem, this will help.
27:00Speaker 0It's common is the whole point of all that is it's more common than you when you know because it was multiple women that she would give her breast milk to. I think women know that, but us men don't.
27:13Speaker 1man, when I had like an eye infection, I put breast milk in my eye. I- That's brings to my wife. She told you and it fixed it. Right? You're like, where's the breast milk in it? It did. I was like, oh, but okay.
27:28Speaker 0We were discussing this the other day, how ironically, where, you know, like my wife in general, we've chosen to breastfeed our boys for a very long time. And
27:44Speaker 0off the chart smart. So I can't say for sure that it's the breast milk, but he was breastfed for a long time, and I definitely think it's a big part of it.
27:52Speaker 1I think so. I think that, you know, we always it's general it's in society like, Oh, man,
27:58Speaker 1get your kids to stop breastfeeding as soon as possible. That's embarrassing, right? Your kids this- Our doctor would like, Dude, as long as you can. But apparently,
28:17Speaker 0So we read, so we did it because of that. Yeah. So, mean, each his own, but I mean, poor ladies, my wife, man, has been breastfeeding now because then we had Mason right after and she just went from kid to kid, poor girl, but she
28:31Speaker 0was built for it, man. She was built to be a mom. Don't think every woman's, not every woman is so freely,
28:39Speaker 0it helps, man. We're living proof. My son seemed pretty, pretty bright. Yep, yep, yep. There you go.
28:56Speaker 0That's kind of cool. Know, men, I don't know, at least me. We were talking about this off screen too.
29:02Speaker 0Don't know, I don't like talking about emotions and all that stuff, my poor wife. I don't
29:06Speaker 0like to talk about all that stuff, you know? So this stuff kind of helps with that stuff, apparently. I haven't tried it, so maybe I need to try it. We have like a sensual talk. Yeah. Let's talk about emotions today. Yes.
29:22Speaker 1We were reading a study earlier and it said, like the direct line was, Gives you a warm, peaceful,
29:32Speaker 0Yeah, which is cool. Yeah. Well, it brings down cortisol, and we wouldn't even brought that up, which is a huge 1 because,
29:44Speaker 0when you're ready to, like, fight or flight, like, it's because you had to fight something off like a bear. There's no bears anymore,
29:50Speaker 0but there is a bear. It's sitting in traffic. I don't know if you're like me. When I'm in traffic, I'm pissed. I hate it. I hate sitting in traffic. We live in Orange County, so it's part of the game, but
30:01Speaker 0this helps with that, man. It brings down cortisol to stress. So pretty darn cool. Yeah, if you could, I mean, which is huge, right? If this
30:26Speaker 1the last thing if we're talking about fitness, right, the last thing our body is doing is burning fat or building muscle, okay?
30:33Speaker 1Again, like you said, if that's going off, our body is programmed to be in ancient times, right, our body is actively literally just disintegrating our muscle, turning
30:43Speaker 1it into sugar and filling our blood with sugar to give us fast energy right now. It does not care about the future. It just wants us to get through this situation we're dealing with And right that would be like fighting a bear off in a cave with no food and it's freezing.
31:01Speaker 1that sucks. So if we can and this is the same reason that we build muscle primarily. Really, all your muscle is built at night while you're sleeping. Why? Because we're not stressed out. Right? Our cortisol is that hormone is not going off, and our body can finally,
31:16Speaker 1Okay, I don't got to deal with these exterior stressors and deal with that. I can now just go back to kind of base mode, which is rebuilding everything,
31:31Speaker 1You believe it or not, like, if you have a good night's sleep, you'll burn a lot of fat. Yeah. You will wake up later because your body is getting rid of all this excess bad stuff. This is getting rid of It doesn't need those fat stores anymore if you are relaxed.
31:47Speaker 0I don't even think we talk about that enough. I mean, I'll give you a quick little story just about me recently where I've actually talked about it quite a bit. I don't sleep well. I don't know, man. Like I said, I have a 4 year old and an 18 old. They're often in my bed and it's just is what it is. It's part of the game, right? So I'm getting kicked in the head, blah, blah, blah, and I don't sleep well. So anyways, I recently had my blood work from a good buddy of mine, and we're going through my blood work and blah, blah, And we're talking about, I've just been really tired, and like, take enough, I'm healthy, I eat right, blah, blah, blah. I shouldn't be as tired. And he said,
32:28Speaker 0not sleeping well. I haven't slept well for a long time, but I've just become used to it. So he and I were talking about this sleep, blah, blah, blah.
32:36Speaker 0A few days later, my wife and I got a babysitter for the 1st time since my 2nd son was born. We got a hotel. We got a ton of sleep. The next day, the boys were so tired, so they fell asleep really early, so I had 2
32:58Speaker 0The point of that is sleep, man. I don't think we talk about it enough. If you're not sleeping well, man, like Will said, your body repairs,
33:04Speaker 0it's a big, big deal. And I know that, but I had not thought of it in a long time. My buddy kind of shined the line of it, and it's, man, sleep is huge. It's huge. It's huge. You ask any, like, pro bodybuilder where that's their job or
33:18Speaker 1athlete, right? I mean, when I was playing college football, like, our strength coach would be like, Now go get some sleep. Do not stay out partying all night long. Right.
34:04Speaker 1So given it to PTSD patients, a lot of studies say, know, some of the worst PTSD symptoms or
34:16Speaker 0kind of seems Makes sense because it lowers the cortisol, so it totally makes sense. Brings calm calms calms nerves. They ran a study in
34:30Speaker 1who were craving alcohol when they had their worst cravings. They would give them like 40
34:43Speaker 1right then and there. And the feedback on that 1 was overwhelming positive. Like, basically, everybody said, woah. It just took away my craving. Well, that's a trip, dude. Yeah. That's crazy.
35:01Speaker 0Yeah. It kind of boosts your overall well-being, which is huge, again, with cortisol, blah, blah. But in today's world, is go, go, go, go, go, we are all caught in the rat race.
35:12Speaker 1This is 1 that's gonna help with that. Yeah, that was the other thing. On this fight or flight thing, guys, if you drink alcohol, alcohol is poison. Okay? So
35:22Speaker 1We all know, like, it doesn't burn off out of you until, like, 2PM the next day. So that entire time that we have alcohol in you,
35:34Speaker 1shooting off cortisol. Right? People are like, oh, I'm fat because I drink. Right? You're not fat. You're really not fat because
35:45Speaker 1Your your body is just never burning fat, and it is trying to store fat, right, because it's stressed and thinks you gotta fight a bear off in a cave.
35:53Speaker 1What did you do with me? Food. So it's trying to store all your food, plus your inhibitions on on food choices go out the window there, right, and see everybody else. I know the truth.
36:04Speaker 1because you're drinking. A, you make worse food decisions, but b, your body is in a constant state of just trying to store fat,
36:19Speaker 0That damn alcohol, man. I'll tell you a quick little story, a little side note. I think my people might find it funny. So when I 1st got sober, was did my sober living, then I moved down to with a buddy down by the beach, Newport Beach, and I'd be up early, right? So I'd be up early having my coffee, reading, you know, doing my readings. And right around 06:00,
36:40Speaker 0and there would always be these women holding their shoes walking down the street, you know, and they would always walk by because I lived on a street that it was a common street. And I'd always say,
36:55Speaker 0Or can't. Yeah. Kinda funny. Don't drink alcohol, ladies. You won't be that girl. Yeah. Kinda find that funny.
37:26Speaker 1my suggestion would be, like SubQ works, but I think nasal spray is gonna be the best route of administration.
37:47Speaker 1I forget the word, but basically, like, just everybody, if you're well good in social settings,
38:01Speaker 0Yeah, it seems like, I know this isn't nootropic, but, you know, we have talked about this numerous times where it seems like the nootropics
38:08Speaker 0can best be done nasal spray. I mean, it makes sense because it's going right into your brain, but logic's
38:50Speaker 1way too much of this stuff, you might find yourself wanting to hold hands with each other, and that's probably time to lower the dose.
39:10Speaker 1My wife's probably listening to this. She's gonna- She's like, Oh, I'm gonna spike his drink
39:17Speaker 0I married the right woman, man. I told her long ago, like, I don't wanna talk about all my feelings and emotions. She's like, Okay. She's a good 1. Good about stuff. Yeah. Talk to your friends. Yeah. That's what they're there for. They like it. It's just gonna stress us out and, like, make us unhappy and everybody unhappy.
39:37Speaker 1That was a good 1, man. These are interesting. These are good ones. I'm glad we dug into this 1. And more honestly, like on these ones, right, just like most peptides, there's just a ton of R and D going on and
39:57Speaker 0I mean, as we go and go, we learn more and we learn more and we learn more. We have never even pretended that we know at all. Just try to study it and try our best to kind of articulate
40:12Speaker 0Some things that we even thought months ago, we're like, oh, that's actually, we need to do it a little bit different.
40:22Speaker 0and error is huge. I mean, we've talked about it, Will and I, to take kind of, you know, go out in left field for a 2nd where people have discussed quite a bit in regards to the dosing of like GLP-1s,
40:38Speaker 0that's awesome. But like, you know, we have worked with lots of many, many, many, many, many friends with hands on in here, and we can say that's the paper's wrong. Like in our experience,
40:54Speaker 0what's better than 1st hands on, like literally seeing physically seeing the changes in people and how they dose things? There's nothing better than firsthand knowledge, man. Nope. So that's how you're gonna learn yourself. Like, try it. Yep. So
41:09Speaker 0good stuff, man. That was a good 1. So next 1 will be the Q and A. I will be putting out the links today and tomorrow, and we will be recording on
41:25Speaker 1I remember that was. That was a good idea. We're open to request. You know, 1 other thing, 1 thing that we were gonna do was, and somebody else requested this, was
41:47Speaker 0Yeah, if that's something of interest, start blowing up our DMs and like, if that's something that more people are interested in, you know, different types of creatine. We've talked about monohydrate and HCL, blah blah blah. So stuff like that. If that's of interest, let us know. We're listening. Sure. We're gonna break down the 3