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0:56Speaker 2I am your host JD Denham. As always my friend, my buddy across the way William T Haas. Friday. Happy Friday.
1:04Speaker 3Time is flying is almost Easter. What do you guys got going? 0 We are going to do Easter. We're going to church in the morning and then maybe have the family over at our house. Nice. Her family. Yeah. Her family.
1:25Speaker 3husbands who just goes driving back from a meeting and just had 5 years. And he's like, how are you doing? I'm like, busy dude. But it's
1:38Speaker 3when you're starting, when life is not going good and I was in addiction and all I wanted was like a full life and people to care
1:49Speaker 3that's what I wanted was just to be busy and have a full life. And then once you have that, you start having 2nd thoughts. But, well, you know, just in the middle of it, you're like, fuck, it's just too much.
2:11Speaker 3Yeah. So it's okay. So, yes, she's got a big family and we got family stuff to do, but we'll, you know, and and with a kid, Easter
2:21Speaker 3Yeah. Right? Yeah. I don't know. Think so, but I don't know. Maybe he's into it. I, yeah. I mean, I know that he doesn't believe in the Easter bunny. Yeah.
2:34Speaker 3It's a little fun though. But he gets a chocolate Easter bunny. You know what I remember growing up? I always just wanted a fucking chocolate Easter bunny. Your moms didn't do that. Never got a chocolate Easter bunny. All my friends always got the big chocolate Easter bunnies.
2:57Speaker 3just out of college, and I definitely was, like, recklessly spending. I had no idea because I was like, finally, I can have something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's so it's just immature.
3:12Speaker 3yes, it's a bad decision. So at 1 point, I had like 2 apartments. I had a question for you. Actually, ask you. Mark this. I'm gonna actually ask you this.
3:33Speaker 3But I think born for I don't know. I would say more I'd say more burned because born born.
3:43Speaker 3out of the the worst of times. Right? Like the worst ghetto or whatever, the worst situations.
3:48Speaker 3Still, sometimes 1 dude just comes up and he obviously wasn't taught that by anybody Yeah. Or a woman. But
3:56Speaker 3it sure helps. I mean, then there's a lot of people who may be borderline, but if you're raised around this, right? Let's say like you're a kid and you're raised with 2
4:11Speaker 3that I succeed, right? Like knowing that I do my own thing and you know that the possibilities are there. And
4:21Speaker 3that this is not an option. Yeah. Right. That they know that they cannot be an entrepreneur.
4:35Speaker 0to college. The crazy part about being a mortgage banker, have seen, I have seen the banks, the statements incomes of pretty much every walk of life. And it's very interesting because I
4:50Speaker 0because they invested, they bought numerous real estate, bought real estate, they had people pay off their mortgages
4:56Speaker 0and they made $4 a month and they had a lot of wealth. Then I've seen doctors to make $60
5:12Speaker 0and they're like, out of school and you got all this money and like, you're making $50. Like, that's really bad math. Bad math. Long time to pay that off.
5:20Speaker 0But school's different. Teaches like that, but it's an interesting question. Like, you did it at 21. That's pretty freaking rare. Yeah. And I think that my situation,
5:31Speaker 3I had parents who, well, they were school teachers. Just do whatever you want. But then again, my mom would always freelance. She had written like 3 books.
5:47Speaker 3has done some big things, but it was never, it's not like blood money to me. Right. But it's people I know. Yeah. But everybody who I was around would always be teaching me this stuff. Right. And saying in seeing that it's possible. And then my best friend in high school, he literally made his 1st million before we graduated high school. We
6:10Speaker 3software, there was a bunch of opportunities there, but I guess I have seen that really helped. And then the 1st thing I did when I went to college, because I mostly I wanted to play football and
6:27Speaker 3Probably not us. Going to the NFL. And I I mean, like, everybody is good. Everybody's really, really good. So I better have a backup plan. So I started to try in school and did very well. But,
6:40Speaker 3yeah, I guess I started a business a month out of 2 months after graduation. Wow, that's rad. And
6:47Speaker 3I saw an opportunity and I thought I could. And that was because, my whole life before that told me that these opportunities are available to me.
6:57Speaker 0either way that's saying that, it sounds like it's cultivated by the people that you're around. Yeah. Yeah. Like even if it's subconsciously
7:03Speaker 0as a child, you can do it. This is what we do. This is what successful do. They make businesses.
7:14Speaker 0came out the gate same way. Just like, he's like, I've never worked for anybody. And that was like, what lit my fire, you know, the podcast I talked about that where
7:22Speaker 0me being around him and seeing all this shit that was possible, me being around dudes that like he has huge masterminds and I was there as a salesman to sign them back up. But what I learned from there was people that do big ass shit, multiple businesses. And I was like, how in hell do you have 5 businesses?
7:46Speaker 0you, once you get past that and you realize you can do all of this because we get stuck here and like, I want to go to dirt work and that's what most people are, when I get a job and that's where most people stick, unfortunately.
8:10Speaker 0our journey through sobriety and just becoming better. And what we've had recently in our life is do big shit. Like think big, do big, but you got to back it with relentless action in that part. You know what I mean? That part you do yourself. But
8:24Speaker 0you know what I mean? You can't do big shit. You have multiple businesses and you can do a bunch of different stuff and anybody listening, you can.
8:34Speaker 0And who you hang out with, dude. Like if you hang out with a bunch of dudes that aren't going anywhere, you're going to be the 6, right? If you're hanging out with people that do big shit, it will be contagious.
8:44Speaker 3Fire you. But you better be willing to work and work and work and work and work and fail and fail fail and fail. And that's just little failures, right? Like just persevere through
9:26Speaker 0$300 that I made from selling my fitness program that nobody did it. I made my own fitness program. It was on PDF,
9:33Speaker 0but I made the reel that attracted the people and I sold the 1st 1. Like, I can't even tell you that $300
9:40Speaker 0was the best $300 I've ever had. I did it myself. Nobody gave me, it was nobody's lead, no mortgage leads. And that's like the fire that lights like I could do this shit. Absolutely.
9:50Speaker 3And it really just takes 1. Yeah. Like once you finally, I mean, the big hurdle is the 1st 1, right? It's like
9:59Speaker 3proving that you can, whatever it is, right? Like, Hey, wow, look at this. I'd add a thin air. I just made my own. I'm like, right
10:32Speaker 0skin, hair, nail, collagen production, and this will be for you. So we're going be talking about the healing peptide blends. You have them obviously separate, so we'll probably tap a little bit on what they each do and then we'll kind of tie them into 1 the blends,
10:46Speaker 3how they work, why they do it, we should take the Who blend should take and who should not. I mean, yeah, the goal here today, right, is to kind of, there's a bunch of different blends out and we're talking about just the healing blends that this kind of in the season of healing right now. So that's what we're talking about over the next few podcasts. But,
11:05Speaker 3and so I don't know, people see all these different things. Well, what the hell? Why should I take this 1 over that 1, etcetera, etcetera. We've went into, in fact, last week, we went into like deep dive with,
12:11Speaker 3of GHK- plus 10 mg BPC plus 10 mg of TB-five hundred. Then we have CLO. So you just basically we're taking glow
12:59Speaker 3here's a little disclaimer, right? Everything we're talking about is educational purposes only. It's not medical advice. We're talking about what we do, what we've seen. But
13:08Speaker 3basically in every source matters, folks, right? Not every peptide is created equally. Okay. Make sure you get it from a source that's that's reputable
13:17Speaker 0and not just the cheapest crap you can find because that's just dumb. Well, let's talk about that. We're just real quick. We're just for a 2nd because in
13:30Speaker 0Peptides don't live in that world in our opinion. Here's why. Any company that is worth their salts, their prices are going to be a little higher. If you don't know why, let me just break it down for you. They get them tested. It costs a lot to have them tested. And these are, they're obviously spending money to, you know, do that type of stuff. The companies that don't do that don't need to test them and spend all that money. So you're going to get them a little bit cheaper. So you're injecting these things in your body. So you want to spend a little bit more, go with a reputable company in our opinion. Yeah. And they test them on a regular basis and they actually test them themselves instead of just buying them that have tests that come along and just showing that off. Sure. Cause that's what most of them do.
14:12Speaker 3And other thing is sending shipping stuff in, you know, with an ice pack. Goal is there isn't to make it like freezing the whole time, but, but extreme
14:31Speaker 3Okay. So here we go. So for the 1st Wolverine well, again, it comes in a so BPC plus TB, 10 mg, 10 10 mg, or 30 mg and 30 mg.
14:49Speaker 3what the hell is BPC and TB? So the quick rundown, okay, BPC-one hundred 57 is actually made and found in our guts, right, in the mucous membrane of our gut.
14:58Speaker 3Scientists figured out saying, Hey, why doesn't our stomach acid burn through our stomach? Right? Burns through everything else. What's up with that? Well, we have this mucous membrane that it burns through, but that heals itself faster than it can be burnt through. And they realized why.
15:11Speaker 3And it was full of this peptide chain called, and they named it BPC-one 157, body protection
15:21Speaker 3And bottled it and said, can we try this and inject it back into a human? Does it help to heal? It does. Hell yeah. So basically BPC is doing a few things. It's a signaling peptide, so it will and it's really working on tendons and ligaments mostly,
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16:55Speaker 3Angiogenesis just means formation of new blood vessels. So blood is life, blood is healing, right? Blood brings nutrients and oxygen.
17:20Speaker 3the forceful like migration of healing cells. So again, wherever you inject that or wherever BPC in fact
17:32Speaker 3hundred is just going to, is going to have a whole bunch of them stem cell healing cells, cells rush there and get on healing that. A
17:45Speaker 0And that's why if you do them separate, because they were well separate in the beginning when Will and I were kind of talking through this, we,
17:53Speaker 0the Wolverine, which wasn't called the Wolverine at the time was coming out or had come out. We were kind of reading some things where it wasn't like, we didn't think it was going to be the best. So we kind of kept them separate, which they're great separate.
18:04Speaker 0But so for anybody that wants to do them separate, a good idea to keep it simple would be tendonitis.
18:10Speaker 0If you lift weights, you will have tendonitis if you're doing it right because you're lifting heavy, right? And so BPC,
18:16Speaker 0nothing better. You're going to inject that right there and it works well. If you have, you know, harder injuries, just more throughout the body, the TB-five
18:24Speaker 0hundred is definitely going to be what you want. You don't do the TB necessarily every day.
18:42Speaker 3Gotta put where that where that injury is. It also doesn't last very long. Call it like a short ester. So
18:48Speaker 3it needs to be done more frequently because your body, it gets it gets out of your body faster. TB is the opposite where it does travel well throughout your body and it does last a bit longer. So theoretically,
18:58Speaker 3you know, you can do TB 500 in your stomach and it's going to systemically help, right? BPC needs to be put in a spot.
19:13Speaker 3regardless of where you inject the TB, it's going to work. Yeah. Okay. So great. If you inject in the spot, awesome. It'd probably work a little bit better right there, but it's still going to work everywhere. And it's going to last long no matter what. So what the hell? You can do it every day. Great. Cause that's what you need. So when you have them in the blend,
19:46Speaker 3So why would I choose that over any of the others? Okay. Well, really for acute injuries. So post surgery,
19:57Speaker 3and you can blast a lot of this stuff. Yeah. These, like, side effect profile on both of these is basically nonexistent. Oh, yeah. So
20:12Speaker 3it's not really focusing on your muscles recovering. Right? When we talk about muscular recovery, we talk about that's how you get big, right, is recovering fast from lifting weights. That's not what we're talking about here. It is more tendon ligaments, which we have enough people have those injuries. Here are some dosing tiers. What I do on the suggestions. So if we have the 10 mg 10 mg bottle,
20:35Speaker 3I personally just add 1 mil of water. Right? Also with the adding of water folks on peptides, it doesn't matter. So
20:43Speaker 3how much water you put in doesn't change the peptide to be good or bad or work better or less, right? Literally the water is just an objective,
20:56Speaker 3So you can, you know exactly how much you can give yourself a dose. It makes sense if we have 10 mg
21:03Speaker 3to add 1 ml water makes the math very easy. Right. And plus, you know, Hey, if you want to inject
21:08Speaker 3less total volume into you, which most people do, then you get to add less water. You just better add enough water that it actually
21:16Speaker 3mixes with the powder and stays as a water. It doesn't just turn into mush. Also, it's really easy to,
21:22Speaker 0if you are breaking the math down to, you can kind of, once you get ahold of it, at 1st it's a little weird, but you'll catch up to it where if you take multiple peptides,
21:31Speaker 0it's really easy if you can figure out the math and just keep it at 10 units a day of each compound.
21:37Speaker 0That's kind of what I try to do because I don't have to remember, oh, how much am I taking of this? I just try to figure out the math, put in that much water for that compound each day, 10 units, 10 units, 10 units, keep it simple. Yep. Easy. Sure. That's 1 way. So for the 10 mg, 10 mg blend,
22:08Speaker 3Okay? And that is for an absolute for an acute injury. I'd say, you know, 4 to 8 weeks depending on how long it takes to heal that injury.
22:17Speaker 3do, and some of my friends do, it's kind of a maintenance dose. So let's say I don't have an acute injury, but my whole body just kind of hurts and my joints are stiff, literally doing this 3 times a week at 0.5 of a milligram, which is also 500 micrograms,
22:31Speaker 3man, I feel better every day. Just just walking through the life, I just feel, yeah, recovered and loose, etcetera. Yeah. So if you happen to have the 30 mg, 30 mg blend,
23:09Speaker 2Well, the cool thing too is the tin is going to be the same. It just has less peptides. So that'll confuse some people. Yeah. That's why you add more water. Yeah. Just think of it folks as
23:19Speaker 0as there's just more powder. Think of it as a 6 pack versus a 12 pack. Right. And if you put more water in, just back out the math. You're like, oh my god, ruined it. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. It's math. Figure out the math.
24:22Speaker 3And it's the copper in there that makes it sting. Yeah, right. So copper is healing. Copper is basically the GHK-
24:55Speaker 3now if we go to doses, so for people, hey, post injury, cool. It's still going to heal. You're still getting the same amount of BPC and TB. You're getting 10 mg and 10 mg,
25:22Speaker 3the straight up Wolverine blend is better for just pure acute healing because you can do more of it and you're going to need to do more of it. Yeah, like surgery. You want to go with Wolverine.
25:31Speaker 3So this is for people who want like anti aging protocols, want skin aesthetic protocols.
25:36Speaker 3This is the go to because of the copper and it helps, but you just can't do too much copper. So my suggestion, I generally put in 2 mils of water.
26:01Speaker 34 weeks, then I'd back it off to maybe a maintenance dose. So do the same doses. Would just, I just 3 days a week.
26:20Speaker 0skin hair nails. It's great for anti aging. There's a reason why we put it into a shampoo also because it works. Yeah. It works really And
26:33Speaker 2believe it going into it, and then they personally used it. Women that have been losing their hair are like, oh, wow. Because GHKC was a powerful coverage is powerful. It really worked. And we even talked about last week was
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27:44Speaker 3TB 500, they're they're running, like, tests and trials on its potential to help hair regrow.
27:51Speaker 3It's not quite there yet at the doses, but plenty of R and D going on with all this stuff Yeah. To figure new things out. So
27:58Speaker 3yes, beauty, anti aging, and it would I mean, women who's taken it. You know, you literally just less skin looks younger, more vibrant.
28:22Speaker 3why would we want to take this? Well, you get the exact same amount of BPC and TB. Okay? You get the same amount of GHK CU, but now we're adding 10 mg of KPV.
28:32Speaker 3That is going to help, right? Our gut brain access is a huge thing. We talked about this last week, right, where it's our 2nd brain and it's our,
28:41Speaker 3it's kind of the center for like autoimmune disorders. Right? Yeah. That's where they are.
28:57Speaker 3the gut brain access and what it actually does. But since, since we've been humans have been around, we've known that there's something special going on. Right? Because all these phrases like trust your gut, right?
29:09Speaker 0If your gut isn't doing good, the rest of your body is not doing good. Most sicknesses come from the fact that your gut is jacked up. I mean, most people these days have some type of a leaky gut problem or something like that. So this, the KPV added into it
29:30Speaker 0Well, you're gonna save money for 1. So just doing them all at 1 time is obviously gonna keep it simple. It's less injections,
29:44Speaker 0comes from the gut, helps with the gut as well. It's just a powerhouse. Yep, for sure. So like BPC,
29:56Speaker 3to heal 1st and then it's going back to your gut, right? It was derived in the gut, it's from the gut and that is literally what heals
30:25Speaker 0Okay. This would be good to run after you run antibiotics or anything like that. Try to clear out the- It would be absolutely right. Then the different Okay, so dosages,
30:54Speaker 3MGF is mechano growth factor and some KPV. So this is kind of an, this is an interesting 1.
31:11Speaker 3There's just so we know, like peptides aren't if you're a grown ass man with a lot of muscle,
31:18Speaker 3you're not going to get much bigger muscle wise from any peptide. Just not going to happen. They're not anabolics.
31:42Speaker 3and it basically means it doesn't last very long in your body. It goes to work really fast, but then gets out of you. It needs to be injected.
31:52Speaker 3needs to be injected like literally post workout 10 to 30 minutes and in the muscle that you actually worked out. Okay.
32:04Speaker 3versus Wolverine, right? When to upgrade. BTMK is really trying to, we're trying to go heal with some muscle
32:21Speaker 3here's your dosages. I'd add 1 mil. Okay? The mechanical growth factor comes in 1 mg. So your goal is about 200 micrograms,
32:28Speaker 33 days a week and injected right in the spot. So that would equal 20 units if you added 1 mil of water. If I had 20 minutes, 20 and I worked out my legs, I would go 10 in a quad and 10 in the other quad. Leg day. If I worked on my arms, I would do the same thing. Yeah.
33:13Speaker 3100 is bringing some of those stem cells, all the builders to the party to help rebuild and KPV to handle and help inflammation
33:23Speaker 3When building muscle, you want some inflammation, but you don't want too much or else you're just spinning your wheels and just not even healing much. So
33:32Speaker 3MGF is an interesting 1 or this whole BTMK because this dose a bit lower in some things, but the goal is to go
34:11Speaker 2so close. If you have gut problems, the CLO, that would be your best. But again, if you have surgery,
34:20Speaker 2you can take a lot of it and you should, you can take a lot and, obviously contingent upon what you can afford.
34:27Speaker 3But, it will expedite the healing of that surgery function. And I guess word to the wise, any of those that have GHK-3two
34:35Speaker 3I would I would suggest using the no sting water. It hurts. A lot of people say they just can't even handle it and it burns so bad.
34:46Speaker 3I don't think we're really allowed to plug anything here, but, no sting water really, really helps. It's not gonna be a perfect 100% fix, but about 80% fix. That's good. For some people that's a big deal because they just can't do it. They can't do it, so they just won't do it. Kinda like me with NAD plus. Fuck, that shit hurt. And I just
35:05Speaker 2I had no sting water. It's funny though that it's just like everybody's so different because it doesn't even bug me 1 bit. NAD.
35:17Speaker 0is the most popular it's, I haven't, don't even think I've really even seen anybody else even talking about it, but if
35:23Speaker 0you're trying to lift and try to get big again, it's not going to be anywhere near any type of gear or steroid obviously, but it's worth a shot and eat diet.
35:33Speaker 2Make sure your hormones are in line. The typical stuff we always talk about. Far more important than any peptide is getting that stuff in line 1st.
35:43Speaker 0Will knows this, but I've been talking about for weeks and weeks sleeping, man. So I've been studying the hell out of it.
35:50Speaker 0And so I radically changed my approach because I did a lot of research on it as you should do. And like trying to figure out some of the issues that I'm having with sleeping and, couldn't figure it out and,
36:01Speaker 0upon some stuff, thinking that I wasn't getting enough nutrients because I fast so much and my body just might've changed and I've been doing it for too long.
36:09Speaker 0Seemed illogical. So anyways, for the month of April, I have dropped all my peptides, eat a little bit of the Wolverine because my shoulders are messed up, and I'm trying trying to even just do as little of everything that I can. I'm keeping my HGH, 2 IUs,
36:22Speaker 0And I mean, actually going from 180 to 200, which is rare for me, bring that up a little bit.
36:28Speaker 0And I've been eating 5 meals, which we've been working with a company that drops off the meals here, which are great. No seed oils.
36:38Speaker 0a little late hours last night, so maybe it's working. I don't know. I'll keep you posted. But the point of that is
36:44Speaker 0we all got to continue to learn and grow and try new stuff. We all get so stuck in the way that we eat, whereas we're like, it's so easy in the way that we lift. Man, if you, we just trick our bodies and do something different, it shocks and you go right back to it. Even like these, like most compounds you should run for generally 90 days, but you need to take a break so that your body reboots
37:06Speaker 0and then do it again for 90 days, you know, but you do need to take a break. All of us. Yep, we do. So I actually have had a shoulder,
37:19Speaker 3I tweaked it. Know I haven't torn it, but it's probably a rotator cuff thing, right? Or a labrum issue.
37:46Speaker 3stopped them in about 3, 4 days ago. Said, all right, I'm going go aggressive again. I've been taking the BP, the 30, 30 BPZ TB,
38:02Speaker 3just, you know, right in the kind of the back of the shoulder spots, I'm kind of just trying to make a circle
38:07Speaker 3triangle around it And I'm 4 days in and it feels basically healed. That's crazy. I know. It's nuts. So Truly amazing.
38:29Speaker 3this video here, but this will be available if you actually want to look at it in detail
38:39Speaker 3recommendations on shit, every peptide there is. Anything else to add on that? Yeah, because 1 of the cool things about it is,
38:46Speaker 0know, everybody's seeking peptides. That's why I think this podcast has done so well, quick. Everybody's looking and everybody. So what we're building there, and it's been amazing, it's blown us away. Our people are coming there and they're talking to each other. They're not just talking to our team. They're like getting like the running other ideas or posting wins.
39:10Speaker 0If you're looking for that type of group of people, like minded people that are just trying to be healthy and, and, you learn a lot, we'll have a lot of this type of stuff. We continue, it's going to grow and grow with the educational stuff on there
39:24Speaker 0it's just a lot of encouragement and pushing each other to do better, man. That's what we believe here.
39:34Speaker 0of like mine that are looking for that. So you found it. It's on a Warrior Makers platform on school. Yep. There's different recommendations to different TRT doctors and