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0:22Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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1:08Speaker 5at Forge Bio Lab. And to the left of her is Tiffany Marie Davis who's a founder of TM Wellness.
1:23Speaker 6and retired IFBB pro. So ladies, welcome. Thank you. It's so nice to be here. I'm excited to be with you, Tiffany. I know.
1:34Speaker 5I'm excited to talk to both of you. Will is still in Italy with his now fiance. She said yes.
1:41Speaker 5We didn't wanna bug him. I told him he's not gonna wanna film any podcast there, and he
1:46Speaker 5I was right. On the boat. I was great. He's enjoying his time in Italy as he should. He has. So
1:59Speaker 5Thymalon, tell us a little bit about just who you are and like what credentials that you have and kind of what led you onto the path. We started on my podcast,
2:07Speaker 5but we didn't get into that. So tell us a little bit about what led you into what you're doing. Sure. So as you mentioned, and we'll keep it shorter here because
2:39Speaker 7I wasn't converting my T-four to T-three properly. So it just made me spiral because I was trusting the wrong hands at the time, but I said there had to be a different way because every doctor I saw just kept dismissing me. They kept throwing medications at me.
3:16Speaker 7And I said, no. Everything that I'm reading, kinda like your story you told me earlier, I said, nope. It it's I I know I don't convert. Studying.
3:26Speaker 7My t 4 doesn't convert to t 3, and I feel like I'm going to have a miscarriage. I don't I just feel off.
3:33Speaker 7Yeah. And she said, like, I don't want that on my belt, so I'm not going to prescribe it to you. And so she sent me on my way. Thanks, doc. I then did everything I could to
3:46Speaker 7And I grew the fetus, but it never grew a heartbeat. And so when I saw the doctor, he goes, How did you do this? What did you do? I knew something was wrong, as women know when something's wrong. I just said, Well, I started looking into everything that I started learning in herbal
4:06Speaker 7chaste tree and, you know, other Chinese herbs while I was able to grow the fetus, but because I wasn't converting the thyroid,
4:19Speaker 7I said there has to be another way. Every doctor dismissed me. I went back to school. Spiraled you meaning like it was a catalyst to, like, you wanting to, like, learn more about, like, outside of Western medicine. Is that what you mean? Outside of Western medicine. Okay. Cool. That's I mean, like I said, it has a time and a place. Western medicine, absolutely. Break your arm. But when it came to Cool. My health, I knew something was wrong. I was not not feeling better. Yeah. I was just stressed all the time. Cortisol was through the roof. Again, going back to miscarrying, that's very traumatic on a woman. Yeah. Yeah. So
5:10Speaker 7in nutrition, which then catapults me into nutrition practitioner, which oversees holistic
5:26Speaker 7so, yeah, I'm certified through the board, registered through the board. I am not licensed for a reason because I don't want to follow the guidelines
5:36Speaker 6government, if you will. Yeah. And the insurance systems that run medical systems. Yeah.
5:51Speaker 7and proper testing because a lot of the times we just run labs. We don't realize that labs are just a screenshot of time.
5:58Speaker 6Well, a lot of the labs they run to, the doctors don't know shit. Well, that's what I was just talking with her about. To be honest, like, they don't even like, for man, they run testosterone, don't even run free testosterone. Like, bro Well, they have a baseline plus, like, your whatever insurance covers. Right? So you just go according to what your doctor tells you. Okay. Yeah. We need this baseline of labs.
6:15Speaker 7You go get them done, but then they say, okay. Every everything's fine. They don't even check for all the t t 3. They check, 1 t 3 number. There's 8 markers above the grade. Yeah. Exactly. And I just learned this recently. So Yeah. So that's the other thing is, like, I do functional testing only because that gives you the root cause answer. Like, if you get a lab and it says, oh, you're inflamed, like, you were talking about. What's the cause? Okay, where is the inflammation coming from? What's doing this? Right, so I'm inflamed, let's just stay away from seed oils and this and this. Okay, well, you've done all of that, but you're still inflamed. Sure. Oh, okay, it's because we have a leaky gut.
6:47Speaker 7You have intestinal permeability, right? Like you have the it's leaking into your system. You're not able to that's why the inflammation is being caused. Okay, so you have leaky gut. Now what do we do about it? Right? And so that's where my work begins.
7:02Speaker 5So how do people come to you though? Like, so like for example, is it women that are looking for hormone type replacement? Is it more gut stuff? Like what
7:32Speaker 7We all have a story and I speak to that woman, that woman that's been dismissed. I speak to that woman that's been through the doctor's office. Like I told you, I had a patient that came to me where she thought she had to live with anaphylactic
7:44Speaker 7responses to where she carried an EpiPen. She was on progesterone and estrogen, I was like, Oh my gosh. I was like, Do they even test if you're Rh negative? I mean, do you realize that we can't even be on estrogen if you
7:57Speaker 7They don't. It's cancer causing. I can't even tell you how many people have been diagnosed with cancer because they were Rh negative and their doctor put them on estrogen. So
8:05Speaker 7I just said, But do you even know if your body can absorb it? And so sure enough, we test her gut. Her liver was backed up. She can't even absorb the estrogen. No wonder you're gaining weight. No wonder you still don't have a sex drive. No wonder you're inflamed.
8:18Speaker 7She has been like this for, she said, the last 10 years, like, it's just been so all over the place. She's like, I don't get it. I'm taking all of these hormones.
8:27Speaker 7I am tired or I'm She can't sleep on HRT. Yeah. Through all of that and through all of that experience. Oh, so she was still feeling like crap. Yeah, and here's why. So we ran her gut
8:38Speaker 7Zoomer and then we also ran her organic oats test and then we also ran her hormone Zoomer. And what came back was that her estrogen wasn't converting properly through her liver, so that was backed up. So we had to do a liver detox to clear that pathway. So no wonder you're gaining weight because I mean, you're just the estrogen's just floating around in your system. There's no idea where to go.
8:58Speaker 7How long does that take, like, a liver detox if somewhere would be like a timeline? Like, okay, this is where you start. I can show you the messages, she was like, I cannot believe how I feel
9:20Speaker 7water weight that came out of her, but also she was not sleeping through the night. She hadn't had a good night of sleep since her son was born. Sure. Cortisol's high. Yeah. And so, but we also had to give her some calming factors to help her sleep because her cortisol was so high. Like, what? Like, ashwagandha and, like, glycine and Yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah. It was that. And then also and we do have to be kind of careful with GABAs and mel- I don't
9:53Speaker 7her stress level was able to come down. The inflammation came down. Huge. Her her body just Life changing. She said, I feel so sexy. Like, she was like, I she was like, I was so afraid to go on vacation with my husband. And we went on vacation. She's like, I felt so good. Husband sees a different wife now. She's not so snappy.
10:14Speaker 7so she carried up, you know, the home. And that on a woman is very hard because it's a lot. Is. It's a lot. Women pick up about 90%
10:22Speaker 7while the man is out doing what he does. Right? And that's how you know you have a good woman, by the way.
10:30Speaker 7care of the house and work. Yeah. No. I mean, a lot of us do. I mean, we're unfortunately in a society that is very, very, you know, at need right now, which is out of order, but it is what it is. But so
10:47Speaker 7with her kids. She's not so sure. I had her do nervous system training as well, which is big because we could take the supplements, we can do all of that, but you need to give yourself that time like we talked about that
10:57Speaker 61st hour of the morning, even if it's 10 minutes to do a nervous system reset because it's all mindset. Dude, it's huge. Well, sometimes the easiest, simplest things are people just go, Oh, that's not gonna work. That's too easy. Yeah. Just breathe. I just have to breathe. Oh, okay. Well, God knows what you I need this and, you know. Yeah, because we're taught to take pills. Like, when you go to the doctor, like, think about, like, I know all of us because I've
11:19Speaker 5known you forever and, like, I've already talked with you. So we've been down the hole, so to speak, for a long time, but like,
11:25Speaker 5God knows what he's doing. Like, some things are simple, like take your shoes off and walk on the grass. I know that sounds like when I couldn't sleep, I was, like, sitting by a tree and taking my feet off. Like, I would you know what I mean? Like, there's a reason why tree hugger came, you know, to place. Like, it's if you walk on the grass, it, like, resets your circadian rhythm. You know? Yeah. These things can work. Hour of
11:50Speaker 5and, like, if you just stare at the sun, like, there's all these, like, old school things that, like, have been pushed under the down so we don't find them. But, like, you can the body heals itself. Food heals itself, like can help you heal. You know what I mean? Or, know, doctors are trained to prescribe medicine. And unfortunately for the longest time,
12:13Speaker 5I would say the high, high majority go to help. They want to do that to help, but they're trained to prescribe medicine. And unfortunately, a lot of them don't continue to grow and evolve and realize like, why are these doctors still prescribing
12:27Speaker 5vaccines to all these children? Like, it's very easy to find that vaccines cause autism. Like, if you do not know that by now, you're not looking because,
12:38Speaker 5but they're still freaking prescribing it. Why? And, like, sometimes I get so frustrated because
12:45Speaker 5why the hell are you still doing it? Like, I get it. They feel like you were trained to do that, but now you've seen something that has to tug at your integrity
12:52Speaker 7while you're still doing it. And that's why I get frustrated at doctors. Makes me mournish about that because I'm getting ears are getting hot, is that the
13:05Speaker 7to mothers, especially like if dad's Yeah, not they don't have the My husband was with me when so our doctor had gotten called out or something, so he saw his colleague
13:56Speaker 7And what happens is, so for example, they were not going to let him start school. Now, this is a child that was hitting every milestone up until 5,
14:15Speaker 7And so she was like, Well, if we do it, can we please space them out so I can see if there's any
14:21Speaker 7or side effects? And so the 1st 1 I believe was DTaP. There wasn't an issue. And then the 2nd 1 was MMR and that's immediately, she said, days later- That's the 1 that gets him. And now he cannot speak at all. So
14:47Speaker 7Do you agree with that? High fat. Yes. But again, we have to understand what types we're dealing with, if it's hyper or hypo.
14:57Speaker 7partnered up with Desert Moon Wellness, which they- Okay, I love them. You do? Yeah. Oh my gosh, you know Janelle?
15:04Speaker 7I don't know. Oh. No. Nora's crunchy. Oh. Well, Jenny McCarthy I just yeah. I order it. I have a lot of yeah. Yeah. Jenny McCarthy, her son, same similar. She was very open about it. Sure. Yep. And so
15:20Speaker 7and I said, listen, I just took this case on. I would love to partner with you guys. I don't know if you guys do,
15:30Speaker 7just cried because I'm like, wow, this little boy, like And the reason being is because I feel like they've been so, again, gaslighted and just not, you know, it's His mom just recently took him out of school because of, you know, certain issues that were happening. She couldn't tell if there was neglect going on and, you know, he was coming home with bruises or,
15:49Speaker 7you know, urine and so she was just, like, cry. I just again, it was like a God thing. He just put it over me.
16:12Speaker 5Well, because the long time for a very, very, very, very long time, most people, if you said vaccines cause autism,
16:22Speaker 5I spoke it anyway. I don't care, like, you know, like, I'm gonna say what it is, but a lot of people don't know that. So, like, again, COVID was a catalyst to a lot of people going, something's off. No shit. You know what I mean? So that's great. I mean,
16:37Speaker 5women in in hormone replacement. There's a lot of people don't even know that you should take hormones, like, you should get your hormones checked when you're a woman. They don't even know that you should take testosterone.
16:46Speaker 6Huge, you know, it's coming around it's coming around finally, you know, and I have these conversations with a lot of women, especially, you know, like, even my mom, you know, that had went through so much just gaslighting. Yeah. You don't know who you need to fill it There's something wrong here. Sure. And, you know, to get this MRI.
17:05Speaker 6know? And they would just shun. Just be like, okay. Out the door. Yeah. And it was like, you even put up a fight, it was like, you're not gonna be my patient anymore. I'm sorry. Like, they would literally
17:16Speaker 6Yeah. Just Dismissal. That's what it is. It's neglect. It's it's Well, is it dismissal is a lack of knowledge?
17:22Speaker 7It and it's another thing I was telling her is that they also only know what they know. This is what they've been taught in school. So you don't want to shoot them
17:31Speaker 7down because, again, they just don't know what they don't know. They grow. They should grow, and I agree with you on this. But again because we all do. Okay. But what's up and a lot of doctors are, but a lot of them are moving more towards concierge because they have more Problance. Yeah.
17:51Speaker 7to where they can't yeah, and they can't branch out. So a lot of, like concierge doctors are doing more functional testing and more understanding in that space. So there are some great ones, but it's still so few and far between
18:08Speaker 6Yeah, they don't know to start. They don't know what to ask for. Like, okay, that's the biggest question. It's like, well, what do I get? Where do I start?
18:14Speaker 5Do you guys do I start? You just said something that's amazing. They don't ask questions. What do you get to it for most doctors? Right? You tell them what's going on, they go,
18:23Speaker 5here, take this and then, know, call me in a week or whatever. Right. Right. Like, so when this really, really, really changed for me is when I went to, I've had a autoimmune issue forever. And,
18:39Speaker 5I just started getting this wealth all over my head. And I'm like, what the hell is happening here? And
19:05Speaker 5Like, it's autoimmune. That means it's coming from my gut. And, like, I was thinking, why am I telling you this? Like, why would I take antibiotics if it's not gonna cure it? And I'm just like, what? So then
19:15Speaker 5somebody had told me to call this gal. She's a holistic gal, blah blah blah. I'm like, what is that? You know? So I go to see her.
19:23Speaker 5I sit down with her for 4 hours. Yeah. Sounds alright. I sat down with her for 4 hours. She dug so deep into my life and went back and was asking me these just direct questions that I had forgotten about. She was digging into my life. I left. I was like, oh, I'm so tired. Like, you know what I mean? And then she was texting me questions later because but she was digging into stuff. Emotional?
19:44Speaker 5Is this like Like, she was trying to get to the new cause of what was going on in my head. And, like, so I when I 1st got sober, like, I was dripping sweat on my armpits. I don't I thought it was just detoxing. Right? And then, like, years later, and now I'm in mortgages, and I'm wearing a suit, sweating through my suit. Now it's not detoxing anymore. I'm sober a long time. Then so I started reading that, oh, you can take Botox under your armpits
20:05Speaker 5and it stops, which it does. I've been doing it ever since. She dug into that and thought that because I'm plugging up this, But it could be coming out of
20:20Speaker 5dug into my life and was trying to figure it out. No doctors ever even get I get 3 seconds with But that's
20:26Speaker 7the hospital. You only get 15 to 3 minutes with patients, right? And so that, like 1 of the colleagues that I was working with, he was like, I just need you to oversee
20:36Speaker 7gut and nutrition health because I don't have the time for it and I know I need to help these people, but I can't. It all stems from gut. That's it. It's our, it's our 2nd brain when it really is our 1st because it's sending signals. It's a gut brain access. Right? So they're communicating
20:49Speaker 5the whole time. Yeah. For sure. Actually run off that everything if you're That means serotonin. Yeah.
20:54Speaker 5We, so you're seeing all these problems with the gut. What do you believe from all the things that you see has been the culprit? Like, what's the main culprit of this? Is it the food? Is it the I can go down the list of lot of your list of things that we know are toxic, but what do you think? I mean, all of the above, of course, but 3 things come out. I mean, I especially while I'm running reports. So the
21:22Speaker 7Yes. Because again, we're signaling from our gut to our brain, right? Yep. And so in Chinese medicine, which I am certified in as well, we
21:48Speaker 7So if our gallbladder isn't functioning properly, it's going to send now to the liver,
21:53Speaker 7which our liver is our filtration process, right? And if these 2 aren't communicating properly based off of traumas,
22:01Speaker 7you know, those are things. Again, you're going out to your doctor. What did she ask you for 4 hours? How deep did she go? Deep. Okay, so most holistic doctors or
22:13Speaker 7you know, doctors, because there are some other functional doctors too that can also have you leaving the office with like 20 things like, where do I
22:21Speaker 7even begin? Right. But a good doctor will sit down with you for 4 hours or a nutritionist
22:34Speaker 7whatever, but eventually you're going to get- You're learning. Yeah. You're learning your patient because
22:39Speaker 7now you're gonna properly supplement on the gallbladder. Sure. Okay? Just a good herb, not over or a homeopathy or a homeopath.
22:59Speaker 7Okay, you've had some traumas here, you gotta let some of that go so we can keep doing the work. So how do you do that?
23:05Speaker 7Like, let it go, like, meaning Oh, so, like, so, basically, again, going back to what I said earlier was, like, nervous system resetting.
23:18Speaker 7Again, just 10 minutes of nervous system reset to let go of whatever is going Oh, that's right. I would I would not expect you to say that. That's awesome. As Yeah. You're healing your I mean, I'm a big believer in Hertz and frequency. I think that's so important because, at that point of your trauma, there was a frequency that happened that needs to get healed. Bringing that in as
23:42Speaker 7what's the word I'm looking for? Your herbal supplementation is going in to coat that. So that's 1 case. There's a lot of traumas that we speak about. So I know what I'm also dealing with when I have a cortisol spike and you're stressing out or,
24:04Speaker 7something that's happened or especially our parents. Yeah. The ARA- There's legit. Yeah. So
24:24Speaker 7are not the same as it was 30 years ago. I'm just gonna say that. Yeah. Our like, I think it's cute when boomers are like, oh,
24:36Speaker 7have this, like, Twinkie. And I'm like, okay, you had 6 ingredients then, now we have 27. 100%.
24:50Speaker 7because it's like, okay, guys, like, I know I sound crazy and I know I sound, you know, but it's like, again, they only know what they know. Right. God forgive them.
24:59Speaker 7But it's that's a big 1 is like our foods are just our soil is not the same from chemtrails to,
25:06Speaker 7know, what they're even spraying on the crops. I know that I'm not going to name any names, but our strawberries now are being sprayed and that's not even from the sky. It's like our organic strawberries are perfect. Strawberries are being sprayed. So this is why it's illegal in Europe,
25:21Speaker 7know, even down to dyes. We are the only country that is making this legal because of the system, right? It makes me so mad. So again, that's tearing up the gut lining. Absolutely. It is,
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26:15Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
26:23Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
26:33Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by Bancorp- NA. Glue on the fence and then you know it. K? So acromency in our gut
26:50Speaker 7is the glue. It's a beneficial bacteria that we need in our gut lining to help seal that lining up.
26:59Speaker 7for me, 1 of my main things that I have people do when I see these, you know, gut permabilities pop up is leaky gut. I
27:15Speaker 6sensitive to dairy, I won't have cholesterol. There's probably a lot of people. You don't, you won't do cholesterol. I will not. Yeah, yeah. You have to run like an allergy, like a test for that
27:23Speaker 7as well. They- Or the stool test. Yeah, it'll pop up. Yeah. Yeah, I run celiac testing.
27:29Speaker 7I run I mean, it'll tell me. Yeah. When the results come back, depending on what pulls up, it'll tell me basically
27:42Speaker 7then I will take the colostrum out. A lot of people that's the thing. Stop spending money on supplements if you don't know what you're supposed to supplement with. True.
27:55Speaker 7Everybody just wants to throw everything at it. Well, let me just take a little while I'm to get this. Probiotic. I'm gonna get this. Do you realize a bad probiotic is like shooting a BB gun at a Target and hoping hoping it hits in the middle like that? Like a cheap 1? Yeah. I mean, but even if you take a good 1, you probably are taking you could take the wrong 1 and you still look pregnant. Right? Man or woman.
28:27Speaker 7Especially in today's society. Goes back to traumas, though. Goes back to traumas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
28:45Speaker 7people who have been in a- They eat, they get bloated, so they're like, F it. Yeah, that's it. And then body dysmorphia. And the reason why is because either they eat too much or eat too less or don't eat at all. And so the nutrient deficiencies that I see from it and then the abuse on the intestinal lining,
29:02Speaker 7I've known people that eat food to taste it and then spit it out, which now we're dealing with acid reflux,
29:21Speaker 5Because pretty much everybody I know has some type of an autoimmune issue. Just the food shit.
29:25Speaker 7Yeah. Number 2 is kind of like not our fault, but if you look at it, it all leads back to abuse, right? Like, we're being abused by the food
29:41Speaker 7Same thing with number 3 goes back to traumas where our worth was never truly good enough. And when did that start?
29:49Speaker 5With the food, so if you're gonna say, I know it's not 1 size fits all, you know, so I'm not gonna hold you to this. What you said,
29:56Speaker 5is there a specific diet that you think is the best, or does it really boil down to each person is very different?
30:04Speaker 5Like age group, maybe like women or or like, do you have to really, because like, you know, like, like I've done a carnivore diet forever,
30:18Speaker 7like fat is really good. I've just read it. I've read I'm not a- and no, because again, they need more nutrients than anything. Sure. And their nervous systems are freaking out. That's really what's going they have a tug of war going on in their bodies, right?
31:06Speaker 7Oh, well, we were just talking about the food. Do you have a diet, a specific diet? Sorry. I had bring it back. Yeah. I get it all the time. I just lost my spoon of thought. Yeah. I would if I had to choose 1, 4 across the board, if that's what you're asking me. Yeah. Men, women, children, I did it pregnant, anti inflammatory diet all day, every day. Which is? No seed oils. Perfect. Yeah. No dyes.
31:35Speaker 7Or from Italy. Or from Italy. That's the only when I go to Italy, game on. Yeah. Yeah. Like, give me that poncho. Yeah.
32:05Speaker 7Like I said, when people make fun of people that have to do that or they're like, Oh, that's just made up anyway, Okay, you're a part of the problem. Okay, let's just be real. Allow people to
32:15Speaker 7go through their own journeys and be able to say, hey, no, I'm just gonna avoid it because I don't wanna feel like crap.
32:34Speaker 7Her ANA levels were up. There was it was just like it had to go immediately. So she was 1. So
32:49Speaker 5Is why- Cutting those both out. Most people, a lot of people do bad with dairy. Yeah. And the thing is too, like, I still have my organic,
33:08Speaker 6raw milk. Yeah, like, I'm I only drink raw milk. If I drink any conventional milks, I get huge histamine response. So I'm goat milk all day long. Yeah. During
33:19Speaker 7a, like, elimination though where we need to see what your body is reactive to those could actually be something that's working against me. Yeah. That's the thing too, is like we can get testing all day long, we can have food sensitivities all day long, but we can also outgrow our food sensitivities too.
33:39Speaker 7what is actually triggering your body. Now give it like, for example, when I was competing,
33:43Speaker 7I was having oatmeal every day because it was like a freaking cookie to me. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.
34:03Speaker 7Oh, that could be number 4, toxin reports. That's another 1 where I'm having a lot of toxin, mycotoxin reports come back that they've been exposed to, like,
34:36Speaker 7That's for a sensitive individual who is having some gut, you know, some gut concerns where it's like, okay,
35:11Speaker 6But the 2nd and 3rd, if they're not working the same as they did the 1st time and you're starting to get frustrated I think that's the biggest key right there. Because the base, we always got to get to the base. I mean, now everyone's getting peptides, right, and GLPs, and then and if they wanna just lose weight, weight. Wanna Right? They wanna get their glucose under control. It'd be like a phase. Right? They start with phase 1 losing
35:31Speaker 6getting that regulated again with a GLP. And they see, oh, wow. This actually works, like, after week 3, week 4. And so that gets them motivated.
35:39Speaker 6So now they can actually go, Oh, well, yeah, maybe I need to look at my gut now. Right? So
35:45Speaker 7we look at like, what do peptides do? What do peptides do? Enhance. What are the number 1 thing that peptides do? How do peptides work?
35:55Speaker 5Well, it's to your body. It's full of amino acids, so they're enhancing. Yeah, like, so if you wanna take something, a healer, it's gonna go towards that area. Correct, so it's signaling now, but it has take hormones where?
36:15Speaker 7but the only way to truly signal is from your gut, okay? Because that's your gut brain access. That's the number 1 signal you need to worry about for everything else to work. Now when we put peptides in,
36:28Speaker 62nd, 3rd, 4th, if we don't have proper signaling going in our gut, they're gonna be like, where do I go? What's happening? For sure. So that's that's a big because point. If feel like shit that would, you know, hit that inflammatory response, you know, the NF kappa b. So, like, KPV, for instance, would work on that inflammatories response. So, like, if someone yeah. That'll take Yeah. So, well, I mean, so not right away.
36:56Speaker 7and it's still throwing inflammation into the system, KPV is only gonna Yeah. It's only gonna attack it from the
37:02Speaker 5I get it. It's gonna help the environment. If someone's, like, guts jacked like most people's, KPV is great, but it's not It's just gonna help the actual It's, like, kinda still, like, a little bit of a Band Aid. Like, we need to get to the root cause of fixing it because
37:16Speaker 5I think people have felt like shit for so long because they just think they're supposed to feel like shit. A lot of things are like, I'm just getting older. You know? And then,
37:24Speaker 5you know, they don't realize, again, to be redundant for a reason. You are supposed to have a sex drive even when you're 60. You are supposed to feel great.
37:47Speaker 5not easy. It's a lot of trial and error and taking this out and trying this and but Yeah. If we just know that we are supposed to feel amazing,
37:57Speaker 5it's worth it. You know what I mean? A lot of it for me is gauged on sex drive. If my sex drive is low, something's off because I know that, like, we're supposed to have that. GLP-1s.
38:10Speaker 5We're supposed to eat. So if, like, GLP-one, like, tirzepatide or semaglutide is stopping your hunger,
38:17Speaker 5that's why I like Retrutide at least because it's at least you're hungry. You're just eating less. So So at least that one's is is the least kinda stays within that barrier of, like, we're supposed to eat.
38:27Speaker 5You know? Yeah. But, you know, it's all the base of everything. Hopefully, it's changing the habits and forming a new lifestyle. Hopefully. You know? Yeah. That's why I like if we say, like, work on the base. To be taken for. It's not Food,
38:40Speaker 5get your hormones in line. Yeah. These are just the basics. Like, so many people want to build the 3rd Floor
38:49Speaker 5because why do people stop working out? It's the 1st of the year. Everybody's the gyms are gonna be packed. Why? Because everybody
38:59Speaker 5People with lack of knowledge about how this stuff works, well, I'm gonna work my ass off in the gym and they don't pay attention to diet. They have their hormones are just shot,
39:07Speaker 5and then they work out hard for 2 weeks and they see no change. Right. So we're like, F this.
39:15Speaker 5We do, but if you just would've like got your hormones aligned and worked on that and you got your diet in line, the workout shit's easy.
39:22Speaker 5You're gonna see progress if you work out, if you have but you gotta fix these things in line. Like, it's just the way it works. Yeah. I mean, the gut's huge, dude. Like, again, the gut and the hormones.
39:36Speaker 7and drop some some bombs here on this 1 because Love it. Yes, we can have the gut health conversation,
39:47Speaker 7I think they're a great tool. Great tool. Exactly, a tool. And that's just a quick fix because we what it is. Should be on a GLP if they've never even followed a nutrition plan or some sort of a foundational plan ever.
40:15Speaker 7there's people like us, we see the beauty in it, right? Like we see what it can do for blood sugar stabilization,
40:25Speaker 7final touch where they've had that stubborn weight, even no matter what they do as far as following those regimens. They just look at the scale, though. That's it. And so I have women all day in my inbox.
40:41Speaker 7I looked great, but now my hair is falling out. Yeah. Because they're not eating. Nails are not micronutrients from the food that we're supposed to be But the issue is like, even though you can also follow a meal plan and you're on GLP, but something's still off. Your mineral
41:13Speaker 7that weight. I mean, I even had a horrible incident with trying Well, I did a because we were trying out these Retatrutrips.
41:20Speaker 7And I typically only take, like, 5 units. Okay? I don't know for a lot of talk about dosing here, but this
41:28Speaker 7was gonna be down about 3 to 4%, 94%. So you won't really, like, notice it compared to an injection.
41:41Speaker 7in fullness. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Oh my Because the food would not move. That's worse. So and I was like,
42:48Speaker 7copper mineral. It's completely different. And a lot of women are deficient in it and men, too. But nobody tests for that. Even myself, I didn't even think about testing it up until recently. I just was like, I just need to do a mineral check. Something's off. Sure. And no functional doctor, no doctor ran it. Okay. And I had the best doctors. Did you take a hair test? How did you do that? No, I did a blood test. Oh, okay. So when that came back, I was like, holy shit.
43:13Speaker 7No wonder I'm not absorbing my iron. Oh, it was just copper? Copper. Wow. It was a mineral that I didn't know that I needed.
43:22Speaker 7can trickle off everything when it comes to a GLP if you're not getting the right minerals. Because it also does strip your minerals because you're not your digestive tract, your
43:39Speaker 5to day. Yeah, there's 2 sides to that, if I can kind of fill in on like my opinion, because it's changed a little bit. So when I 1st, I didn't have much knowledge about GLP-1s
43:49Speaker 5until I started this company, which Will and I have been friends for a long time. And, when I started my fitness channel,
44:03Speaker 5he was always like, you gotta, like, you gotta get into these GLP-1s. They're amazing. But I'm like, bro, that's not even my gig, dude. Like, I'm disbanded. Like, not even like so my mind was like that. And then when I started the company, I had to learn about them. So I started reading about them. I'm like, wow, this is freaking rad. And started taking them, and then I started working with people.
44:23Speaker 5When you have people that we are instant gratification people, and if we use that, that's just the way it is, right or wrong, which is an is,
44:31Speaker 5if they don't see any type of results, they stop. Right. Just be honest. And if a GLP-one will show them results, which it will,
44:42Speaker 5sorry for lack of a better way to say it, f it. You know? And like if God gets it moving,
44:49Speaker 5a lot of people are lazy and a lot of people have no freaking clue about nutrition. I would ask people when I started working with them, What's healthy? They'd be like, I'm pretty healthy. What's a healthy diet? You know, it's always like a banana and a muffin or something like that for breakfast. No, that's not good. Like, so now I know what we're working with. It's lack of knowledge for sure. It's lack of discipline for sure. So
45:24Speaker 5I support it. You know? Yeah. And I'm not fighting with you. I'm saying, like, I get it because I see both sides think to we need more people like us to help them
45:59Speaker 5I just think you need more- have to do resistance training. Women do not training is like a number 1 with GLP. Tiffany said something that I love because I know it's I'm I'm a huge supporter of it and I don't hear a lot of people talking about it is women need protein
46:14Speaker 7not a lot of people to talk about that. So when she said that I'm like, girl. I'm not like a huge fan of fasting. Do I see benefits in it? Yes, there are, but again, per case, right? Yeah, everything's different. Women different for sure. Men and women 35,
46:29Speaker 7again, I'm sure there's going to be people that won't agree with this. Course. If we're at
46:40Speaker 7where does that blood sugar go in the 1st 60 minutes of waking? Where's your cortisol at? Right? And so you have to start it immediately
46:55Speaker 5you're running like you're kicking ass because it's autophagy is how you beat cancer. 7 yeah. 6 or 7 days, I think that's So you can there you can go both sides without a doubt and like, I mean, I'm sure you know if you've seen anything I post, I'm huge on fasting. I love it. Like, I will always do it.
47:11Speaker 5The studies now have changed a little bit. Nora knows, like, I studied fasting 10 years ago and, like, have been stuck in my ways, and it's worked great for me. Yeah. Until it stops. Until it stops. Because my cortisol was, like, skyrocketed. We were in Vegas, and we got off the plane, and my body was going through changes. I stopped on the carnivore and I started eating carbs and it was a catalyst to How old were you?
47:34Speaker 5Yeah, this just happened. Just a few months. I did 5 years of carnivore strict because I loved it and I loved the discipline of it. Like it's all mindset for me and
47:46Speaker 5Boom. Until I started eating a little bit of carbs, I wanted to try something different. And it was like, I don't know if it was like the snowball effect
47:55Speaker 5or I don't know if it was the fact that I was about to turn 49. I don't know. But, like, something changed in my body and, like, Nora and I flew out to Vegas for some work stuff.
48:03Speaker 5And we're walking through this thing and I'm like, damn it. How far are we walking? And I was like thinking, why am I feeling so heavy? And I looked down at my freaking Your ankles? Were swollen. And she's like, what the hell? And I'm like, what is happening with me? And, you know, I mean, I started studying. That protein too high in your body? I increased my testosterone a little bit, so that probably had to do with it because I was changing some things around. I felt off.
48:30Speaker 7different people. Like, I saw this quote. What I'm saying? And it's regarding back to marriage. I mean, this will be relevant, but
48:42Speaker 77 times now, and I'm lucky enough that it was with the same person because we changed every
48:49Speaker 7time. Right? And I saw a quote that said, like, I've been married 20 times and it's, you know, been with my husband. Yeah.
48:56Speaker 7And it just you gotta look at it from that point too. Like, we are not the same people. Our bodies change. Not only Seems to be every 10 years is a radical change for every Without a 30 7 years, they say-30s.
49:19Speaker 7that everything is functioning properly, your gut feels good, I go for it. Think it's incredible because you have the proper
49:30Speaker 7to help your hormones, your hormones facility even better. But it's the people who are having hormonal fluctuations or people who are having changes or they just don't feel like themselves or like,
49:42Speaker 5it is so important to- Listen to your body. To listen to your body. Which I am in tune with that. Like, I think everybody peer probably is, because if you wanna stay in shape, I don't I stay in shape because, like, I love it's me against me in the in the gym every day. You guys get it. I know that you guys are the same.
49:57Speaker 5And that part is what it is. Fasting is, again, it's discipline. I like enforcing fasting because I just love discipline. It's different for women though. It is, for sure, and I totally get that. But again, it's learning your body Gatherers. And
50:09Speaker 5We're we're nurturers. We need to feed our body. We need fat. Yeah. Yeah. But again, I mean, I think a long fast, if somebody has cancer can help, even women. Well, yeah, you're entering another. I am. I'm definitely 1 of the start. I've been reading a lot about that, but But, yeah, for kids. Yeah. But, yeah, it's knowing yourself. It's knowing the sweet spot. The sweet spot for me worked for a little about 5 years. Sweets a lot has changed. I can't find it.
50:35Speaker 5I wanna wake up and kick ass. Yeah. I wanna wake up and have, like, at the end of my day,
50:42Speaker 5I'm gonna go to bed and just fall right asleep because I did it for a very long time. And like, your body changes, things change, and you gotta stay ahead of it. You gotta know yourself. And
50:52Speaker 5even us sitting here who are in tune to that stuff, our sweet spot changes, so we have to study and change and try this and take this For us women,
51:04Speaker 5And guys don't have that outlet. So, I mean, know, guys on testosterone giving blood and all that, you know? Yeah, and I was gonna say, like, back to what we said, the easiest, because
51:13Speaker 7what I hear you saying is that taking in and taking out, it's like, I want people to understand that the anti inflammatory diet, that is the most consistent diet that you can do and actually stay on and see the great results
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52:49Speaker 5Our fruit sucks now too. I know. Like, just told you about the strawberries. Yeah. It's well, it's like, literally, like, it's in it shoots up your your your Well, fruit. So, again moderation in fruit, but yeah. There's different kinds of food. There's
53:01Speaker 5that's Well, it's, like, genetically modified. The apples are, like, crisp and, like Oh, yeah. You gotta either go to a farmer's market. I think farmer's market, you're gonna have a better
53:10Speaker 7you know? But, again, if we go back to Kim Trails, like, there's sprains of all it's just She like got Yes. Everywhere. Yeah. But you have to know the farmer's
53:28Speaker 7yeah. So, like, avocado oil, I know it has a seed, but it's still classified as like a fruit. Right? Yeah. Like, it's It is true. So it's still a good it's still a good oil. It's a good cooking oil. I think an all around oil would be olive and coconut.
53:40Speaker 6Beef tallow is great. Well, fats like that, of course. Yeah. Those are great. Beef tallow is great. Anything from a a a like,
53:46Speaker 5even bacon. Like, if you're gonna do, like, a higher fat diet, just cooking bacon and the cooking in the bacon grease, it's from a an actual animal,
53:54Speaker 7I think. Pork is, like, 1 of the dirtiest proteins we can ever put into our beef. I'm talking about the fat, though.
54:14Speaker 5Your animals that are eating this well. I can't have You don't wanna eat an animal that eats meat figured out meat that eats meat. Time ago. So it took me a long time to figure out what the hell was going on in my head. You know, that's why I did the carnivore. Of the bacon. That's why I did the carnivore, though, because I was like,
54:30Speaker 5That's what my husband is. I gotta feed my bacon. But I was doing carnivore, and I was reading all about it and, this is gonna cure it, blah blah blah. And I was eating a shit ton of of butter, real good butter, and it was some flames. So long story short, I figured out it was butter. It was like dairy. You know? So then I started cooking, like, beef towel, and it was great. I literally cured it from carnivore. Yeah. Until I literally listened to your body, like, what can I eat in this? Your head was a mess. Yeah. You know what I mean? And
54:57Speaker 5the problem is I did, I cured it for maybe like a year and then when I strayed just slightly off that diet, it came back and it's been- But it makes sense with your autoimmune.
55:27Speaker 7phase in my programs. So, like, the 1st 21 days we eliminate and then we slowly start adding things back in to see what's going
55:34Speaker 7on. The only way you can really get to the I only have a list for those okay items. It's not like, let's go have a piece of cake, right? Like, let's reintroduce
55:42Speaker 7some grass fed butter. Sure. Let's reintroduce some organic- Healthy stuff. Organic cottage cheese. Boom. Cottage cheese, you had a reaction. Take it back out. Totally. Okay. So it's not a ton of, like, trying to it's literally 1 step at a time, just like we talked about. Just a long time. Yeah. But, again, I the list is so small to what we can actually
56:02Speaker 5have because our foods are so poorly Yeah. That's why I do carnivore. It's so easy. You can eat this. You can't eat all that. Also be so hard on someone's kidneys that can't handle that. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm not I'm not advocating for it. I'm just saying, listen, like, it's just easy. But I get it. It eliminates all of the crap. Right? Like, and I I actually firmly believe in the carnivore diet, but I also Spurts.
56:22Speaker 7Spurts. Yeah. That's what that's what Scott said. He's like Carnivore's great. He's all your body wants your your gut needs that now and then Give it a break. Right. And then it's again, you start to create intolerances within your system Yeah.
56:38Speaker 5SIBO, all kinds of stuff going on. It goes back to the meat. Because I was like, dude, so, like, all all of a sudden, I I was like, just had this
56:51Speaker 5just like bread and, like, the carbs. Right? And I'm like, what the hell is going on? So when I did the stool test, he's like, that makes sense, man. It's yeast. It thrives on that stuff. Yeah. I'd be at bed, my wife's like, I've never seen you eat toast before bread. I'm like, so good.
57:04Speaker 7Sourdough toast without eating my god. Does she make it? Well, no. She doesn't make it, but, like, like, sweet. Like, the the the 3, ingredient kind? Oh my god. It's incredible. It's the best. Yeah. It's the best. On it? Oh, it's so good. Dude, I love it. I do that in the morning. Mean Oh, so good. Just like 0.5 a pea you know, a little piece with complex cork and, you know, protein, but it's balanced. Balance it. I'll have to send it to you, but there's a a good brand. It's imported from Italy, and your wife can just remake it. It's so easy. I mean, it's like Baby, I love you. My wife don't cook. You
57:37Speaker 5know I love you, though. You can do a lot of good things. Maybe she can maybe she'll take up baking. No. This 1 is, like, throw it in. Like, it's so easy. But yeah.
57:44Speaker 6The kids will love it. Oh, I love it. Oh, it's the best. So good. They have easy bread machines. You know? Gosh. Is an hour ago quick?
57:52Speaker 5this is gonna be very vague, but, like, there's so many people that have so many problems. And if somebody's listening to this and they feel like shit and they're really intrigued to try to fix it, where would you say they begin? Yeah.
58:07Speaker 7you can find me at TM Wellness. Yeah. Yeah, no. No, seriously, like, that that's a big 1 is like- You're here because we want to help. Finding someone, you know, I mean- Who cares. That cares and will take the time with you. I think you had said it earlier, 4 hours you sat down. I mean, that is me. And
58:23Speaker 7it does take someone that truly cares and does a deep dive. That's how my entire business is created because I am tired of the dismissal,
58:37Speaker 7and, you know, all of these, like, I'm an influencer too, but a lot of influencers are just putting stuff out just to put stuff out. Like, actually put it out because you use it and you would be, you know, just as okay to putting it into your baby's body. Like, that's how you should influence, right? Like, you want to make sure that you understand what it is that you're going for. So, yeah. So really
59:05Speaker 7because that's truly how And I'm talking about fecal testing, urine testing, saliva testing, not a snapshot. I'm doing that.
59:32Speaker 5the way that we live in this world is gonna cost and and I I have to do it too. And that's just is what it is. The cost is worth it just from the standpoint of
59:42Speaker 5we feeling great is worth it. Feeling great, like not having a cloudy head, having a sex drive, feeling great, wanting to conquer the damn world.
59:49Speaker 5Like, that's awesome. Like, waking up and feeling like shit and your head's all cloudy and like, I don't wanna get up or you don't wanna have sex with your wife. Dude,
1:00:02Speaker 5All those tests, they need to be run because like, this is connected to this. So that's why you're frustrated Western medicine because it's like, they run a test and then they give you some pills. And it's like, I get so frustrated with them because it's like, you ain't gonna get healed going to a medical doctor. You're not. Our guts are jacked.
1:00:18Speaker 5Our hormones I mean, I've worked with so many men, hundreds. And I ran their their blood work, and they were all under 300 in testosterone. And a lot of them didn't get free testosterone, so I didn't know what that was, but we know that was low too. And it's like, we're not supposed to live like that. Yeah.
1:00:36Speaker 6Especially women now. I mean, I'm really in it. This at this age where I'm like, wow, I actually have to start looking at that, whereas it wasn't a concern before. Yeah. Because, you know, it's always been, like, eating healthy, doing all the things. And now
1:00:49Speaker 6just because of, you know, like sex, man. We get, the environment we live in, the water we're drinking, it all has an effect, you know, in stress, cortisol. So my biggest thing is cortisol. Right? So I get these spikes and it's kind of messed with my hormones. So Bitch. Now at this age, I'm doing the HRT, which is actually such a game changer. I mean, a lot of times I was throwing this at it, that at it, right, and just going, oh, do I need to spend $500
1:01:10Speaker 6on a functional test? Maybe I'll just get this and that test because, you know, I don't wanna spend $500 That seems like outrageous plus, you know, the consults is another You're not gonna find out otherwise.
1:01:23Speaker 7How much money did you spend on supplements? Again, like I was saying, like on TikTok or everything you thought you had to take instead of like, I'll just pay the 500 for the functional testing. Yeah, and I absolutely So I actually agree know what it's like to take for the rest of my life, and now I'll retest again in a year and see where I've healed and eliminate my products because I don't need them anymore.
1:01:46Speaker 7at the end of the day, our health is wealth. Like, we can't do anything without our health. Like,
1:01:51Speaker 7we are so blessed to wake up just with air in our lungs and a healthy body and to walk into the gym and to walk into work. Like, how blessed are we? Right? Amazing. And so when we look at it from a point where,
1:02:02Speaker 7okay, I'm gonna spend 500 or 1000 dollars where I can spend, I don't know, it's what I spend in a dinner in Vegas for a group of 4, you know, like or, you know, $200
1:02:11Speaker 7for dinner. Get my Botox or Or I'd rather do that, but I won't I won't test my poop for $500
1:02:16Speaker 7to just see what's going on for the rest of my life. Yeah. Huge. It's huge. You gotta do. If you really break it down though, like, you know, that's like so me and my team, we will make it work. We will break payments down. We will do whatever it takes because I'm here to help, right? I'm not here to just take your money and dismiss you. I'm here to
1:02:35Speaker 7be with you, hold your hand, walk through hell with you, and bring you through. That's right. You know, to the light because then, again, like my testimonies are everything. Like my people are happy. They're thriving.
1:02:46Speaker 7They're back to them normal selves, but better. Right? Like we don't want to go back to ourselves. We want to remember that good feeling.
1:03:00Speaker 7what's working, what's not working, and have an understanding of who you are. Right. Because that's the thing is, like, you don't truly know what's going on inside of your body. You don't even know you until you really know you. Yeah. And the only way to do that is just the ultimate thing. Goal is to know you. Right? So That's like I think we talked about it our last last podcast.
1:03:16Speaker 7Like, you have to know you in order to heal. Whether that's physically, mentally, you have to be good with you. And the only way to find that out is to get deep, go at the root. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, because if you have gut issues, all these things, I mean, you're inclined
1:03:29Speaker 6to just like, I'm gonna lay down or I'm gonna just rest. I'm not gonna take that step to do what I need to do. So- Yeah, don't settle with feeling like shit. Know, this is a peptide podcast, but it's so much more than that because
1:03:41Speaker 5peptides are amazing. They are, gosh, they're stepping outside and hopefully pushing Western medicine a little bit to the side.
1:03:48Speaker 5But you all, we say it all the time, Will and I talk about all the time, like, it's you gotta get the base. You gotta fix, you gotta build the 1st floor before you start. Hepatitis are great once you start building the base,
1:03:59Speaker 5and then you start taking supplements and they will help you sing. You'll fly, it'll be great,
1:04:04Speaker 5but you gotta work on this stuff. That's why you're here. Gotta work on your gut, gotta work on hormones,
1:04:15Speaker 5yeah, that's it. So we're gonna plug her and I'm gonna give her the mic to say where you can find her, but that's why we're having these types of people on the show.
1:04:24Speaker 5We didn't even talk about peptides, but life isn't all about that. It's not all about supplements.
1:04:35Speaker 5I'm serious. I know Let's not take away from like how amazing, like you need sleep because like your cortisol will shoot up and like cortisol will ruin your life. It will literally kill you.
1:04:48Speaker 5And knowing your body, if you have that little gut bloat in your thing that you don't know, use cortisol. Yeah. Sleeping,
1:05:02Speaker 5have to. You have to walk. Start somewhere. Yeah. Start somewhere. Get moving, and if you're someone that's been laying on the couch and you've never worked out, how about you just start with walking after every meal for 20 minutes? How easy is that? Just walk your dog or like-
1:05:15Speaker 5know, but like, get it moving down the hill, man. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Our our goes quick. Sorry you missed Will. We'll definitely have you back for sure. I don't know. I'm,
1:05:33Speaker 5But, maybe we'll we'll do some type of, a warrior maker meetup to where we have some people come and, like,
1:05:39Speaker 5talk for a bit on different subjects. That's starting to brew in my head, so that would be amazing. Where can they find you? You guys can find me on Instagram at, Tiffany Marie underscore Davis,
1:05:55Speaker 7Davis, and then my maiden name, Boydston, is still on there. I've been growing that page since, like I said, 16 years ago.
1:06:06Speaker 7Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward, and hopefully, we'll get a lot of answers to some, you know, person people reaching out for sure. Help them out. Rightfully so. Rightfully so. If you have gut problems,
1:06:24Speaker 6So, yeah, with Warrior Makers, and we're associated with Forge. So we're Forge Biolab, and you can find me,
1:06:35Speaker 5Or yeah. And we just basically be that or with the team here at Warrior Makers. Alright. We'll make you you both easy to find, but it's been a pleasure, ladies. Yes. Will, we miss you, buddy.
1:06:46Speaker 5Yeah. We'll be back soon. I think you'll be back in a few days, but, other than that, we'll catch you next round, guys. Take care.