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0:54Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way. Like always, my buddy
1:00Speaker 3who's about to get hitched hopefully here in the next week or so, mister William T. What's up, man? And, yeah, I mean, since summer mode, I also have an RV waiting and waiting to take the family and a bunch of friends to
1:17Speaker 3by the way, it's really hard to get a spot there. If you want 1 of those little A frame cabins,
1:29Speaker 3Yes. No, I have no pool. I just lucked out and made the reservation several, several months ago. Nice. Yeah,
1:36Speaker 3but it'll be fun. You run I mean, if anybody doesn't know, probably a lot of you guys don't know what Newport Dunes is, but it is
1:43Speaker 3it's in Newport Beach, but it's a little inlet. It's saltwater, but you're on they have all these RV spots,
1:52Speaker 3And then in the middle of the little bay, because it's it's back in the Newport Bay, they have the full, like, floating Yeah. Trampoline and obstacle course. My son is gonna go nuts. Yes. I think you have to pay for it. That's right. And you probably have to be tall enough and you definitely have to wear a life jacket. So you maybe don't get his hopes up. Mason? If he's not big enough, Mason probably can't.
2:11Speaker 3Because things, those things are huge. Yeah. If a little kid falls and gets stuck underneath 1, nobody will notice. So be careful. You better be out there with him. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I would definitely go out there. He just starts swimming and, he's like a little fish.
2:27Speaker 3Yeah. That is great. It wears the kids out. So that'd be fun, dude. Like there's even, we went a couple of weeks ago to like concerts in the kind of a concerts in the park deal, but it's some like old cover band. Yeah. They're playing outside on the beach. That's right. With a bunch of food trucks and,
2:43Speaker 2yeah, it was fun. Summertime, man. It's a cool swing. It seems like summertime is is starting later and going longer.
2:50Speaker 3It you know what Sure seems like it's starting later. Yeah. At the end of September, it's caught. At least in or at least in California. Orange County, at least. Well, see, I'm from Seattle, and so we're our summers, like, start at after July 4. But right about July 4, cool. We get to be about summer, and there's an abrupt end mid September. Oh, really? Yeah. So that is the summer
3:13Speaker 3even out of a 7 day a week, we're lucky to get 5 days of sun, right? You're still getting rain on
3:27Speaker 3Really, but it does, it started later. I don't think we started getting hot until 2 days ago.
3:32Speaker 3June was not very hot. And June, no. June, it's like April- To us. To us. Right. It's everybody else's- We're spoiled.
3:50Speaker 2Yeah, not really. Well, I wear pants a lot anyway to the office, but like it's we we wear flip flops. We can wear flip flops and shorts all year round if we choose to. Sometimes it might be a little brisk, but, California
4:02Speaker 2definitely does earn their weather, at least Southern California. Northern California is a little bit different, but, I wanna talk about real quick
4:19Speaker 3not nervous. And 1st of all, you know, she watches this and she knows kind of what's going on, but I don't wanna divulge too much Sure. Exact details. Sure, sure,
4:27Speaker 3am I nervous? No, I'm not nervous at all. I'm actually excited. Yeah. It's also like, I know that, you know, it's a it is hopefully it's a foregone
4:38Speaker 3Dude, my life I knew was gonna say yes, but I was nervous as hell. See, I will be nervous. I will I guarantee I'll be really nervous. Like, when the time is about to come, I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah. You gotta hit a needle. Like, but I'm ready.
5:02Speaker 3little box that it's a different box. So it doesn't say happy jeweler on there. Shout out to happy jewelers.
5:15Speaker 3so it doesn't say happy jeweler, but it's like a Louis Vuitton box, but which is like, that's just stupid,
5:30Speaker 3So basically day 1, when we get to the Amalfi Coast, I have a boat rented all day long. So we go to Capri and caves and somewhere there,
5:41Speaker 2Yeah. That's right. Well, also, like, you have a big vacation coming up. That's cool. You've worked your ass off, bro. You have, you know, like it's been a long time. It's been a long time. We've
5:54Speaker 3I think I need it. Yes. I do. I know you do. Everybody needs a, everybody needs vacations by the way. Like I've always been 1 to just like, ah, screw it. I just, just, let's just keep working hard, working hard until you take a vacation, you come back and you go, oh my God, what am I doing? Like, I'm so much more
6:12Speaker 3coming back. So 1 note, then luckily also I don't drink, so that makes it very helpful to not need a vacation from your vacation. You know? Yeah. You're like, oh, gotta get all my But from
6:25Speaker 3the, we were talking to some guy the other day, he's like, dude, when you go to just plan your days,
6:30Speaker 3just back to, so a day where you're doing it out, doing some excursion and then the next day you're doing nothing and then excursion, nothing. Give yourself a staggered
6:41Speaker 3rest days so you don't come back needing a vacation. Sure. Because you can run yourself ragged on a vacation.
6:50Speaker 2on our honeymoon and we stayed the 1st part at Wiley at the 4 Seasons, her dad, courtesy of her father. Thank Retatrut, if you're listening, it was awesome. 4 Seasons, we're actually saying there's 4 Seasons in Pro. And
7:02Speaker 2we got spoiled because the 4 Seasons is amazing. I think it's like off the charts, especially Maui.
7:18Speaker 2it's like, if anybody has never been to Maui or heard about it, there is a, at the backside of Maui,
7:33Speaker 2street on a crazy ass mountain. Yeah. And like I was with my new bride on driving around these corners and you got these, like, locals that have lived there their whole life. Yeah. And
7:44Speaker 2like I like, by the time we saw rad, we it was it was a rad experience. You get to the end, we turn around and by that time I'm so frazzled.
7:52Speaker 2Melissa's sleeping now and I'm just like, you know, and we shouldn't have wasted, we should have chilled at the 4 Seasons.
7:59Speaker 2If you like sneeze, they come up with a tissue, you know? And then we went to the high end, which is still nice, but like, it's very different. Then we chilled,
8:07Speaker 3you know, and then we were ready to chill because we wasted our days. Yeah. So I've written now you, you will probably hears like a will ism. You would guess that I did this. So when we took the road to Han, I was with different girlfriend, we rented a Jeep, and but before I went, I rented the CD that you put in that comes with a map and it talks you through the history of That's cool though. At every mile marker. So it tells you, like you put it in and it goes, alright, push play, push stop at mile marker 13 or no, it's talking, it's telling me everything. And then he goes, now push stop, you're at mile marker 15, at mile marker 18,
8:42Speaker 3And you play it and he goes, look to your right, you're gonna see this and that. Thought they did say the 1 thing that I remember, like, the number 1 most devastating thing to the Hawaiian people was the advent, was white man bringing cows and pigs.
8:56Speaker 3Because the tip of the Hawaiian that we see nowadays, right, everybody thinks is this giant,
9:00Speaker 3giant dude. But when we 1st well, when white man 1st discovered the Hawaiians, he said that the journals were like, they're the most gorgeous,
9:08Speaker 3lean, athletic people because they hadn't they've ate fish and only fish. And all they did was swim
9:18Speaker 2land grazing, no animal to just gorge yourself on. Oh, wow. That's interesting. That was interesting. Oh, you learned that on that- Oh, the city? Yeah. That's pretty cool. Well, those things are rad. Like, there's, I've stopped, I took my daughter a couple years later,
9:33Speaker 2just she and I, which was amazing, best, like, you've read such rad memories. And I didn't think she was gonna wanna do that, but we ended up doing it. And equally
9:40Speaker 2it was rad because my, we used to stop at certain ones. I stopped a lot of same ones because I knew it, but there's
9:47Speaker 3so much history. There is. There's, I think there's, like, 36 pullouts that you can. You can't do every 1 because you wouldn't it would take away Yeah. A couple days. But, anyways, if you're listening and thinking, it's it's rad. It's worth it. It's worth it. It's, You're also not allowed, it violates the rental car agreement, it to keep going. You can instead of turning around. You can just keep going, which I did because that's also what I do is like not listen to rules.
10:14Speaker 3volcanic. It's like the newest volcanics, but it's like forever in just blinding heat. We pulled over to, like, get some water out the back and and truck came rolling up, like, 5 minutes later and he stopped. He's like, are you guys okay? Because, like, there is no help coming Oh, shit. If you're not okay. Like, if you break down, you better, like,
10:30Speaker 3be careful of heat stroke because nobody's coming along there. And that is why the rental car companies don't want you to do that. But we made it and it was an adventure
10:51Speaker 2we just needed R and R and to get our brains off of some things. Yeah, man. You've been going Mach 90 for a long time. I'm looking forward to you to have that. We, I'm flying out there with, will we are going to again meet with, Peter Magic and actually see
11:05Speaker 2the, I think it's 40,000 square foot warehouse of Janoschick and that's going to be just fun in itself. That podcast did amazing.
11:14Speaker 2He's going to be taken off, think the next day and I'll be there for a couple of days myself, which is I've never done, which I'll be walking around Prague. Jason was telling me they got some world war II like stuff. I love that stuff. That's cool. Like Germans and stuff. That would be kind of cool. So I'll probably do that and then just do a lot of like recording of like my content, how I eat here and in Prague and like, it'll be cool, man. That's a good, that is good. Show people how you eat on the Road
11:42Speaker 3You can't read them any no, everything is there's a lot in English apparently, but going to visit GHK-3.5 Lab is a big deal. It is. I've been testing stuff for 10 years with them. As long as I've known you. Yeah, absolutely. You talked about them. They are the 1 who's really like started, so like they single handedly started kind of quality control of
12:05Speaker 3worldwide's quality control of steroids. Before that, there was nobody that would test
12:13Speaker 3anybody making it or selling it could just sell anybody garbage as much as they want. Totally. And that was happening. For sure, sure. No doubt. And so they've revolutionized it all. And then peptides has been another explosion in their testing. And again, they have to open 1000 boxes a day. Yeah.
12:31Speaker 3Well, if you missed that podcast, make sure you go back and watch it. You know, we'll maybe try to get him back on, you know? Well, I think, you know, we will do a we're gonna do a podcast there. We'll see if he'll sit down with us. We just he
12:42Speaker 2would. He's just busy as hell, so we're gonna bug him too much. Touring the facility is already going to bug him. He was excited about that, but then he offered it and then I'm like, alright, don't tempt us. Like, we'll come. And then, then we, when we, I've been emailing back and forth with them, I said, you know, we'd like to, you know, buy you a steak if you're, if you're interested, he's like, listen, it's all about how busy I am. Like, I get it. I get it. I don't judge. Yep.
13:04Speaker 3Totally understand it. So, right. So that's going be really cool. Everybody's watch, watch
13:08Speaker 2that. We will post plenty of We're gonna be posting some stuff. It'll be cool. So you guys will hopefully,
13:15Speaker 2get to see the visuals because we're going to hopefully bring in a video art for that we get from the hotel
13:29Speaker 2funny, I'll let the cat out the bag. So you were going to be listening to this on Monday. You're actually listening to this on Monday.
13:36Speaker 2I always say that talking to you like, as you're going to like know it's coming, but you're listening to some Monday and we're going to record right after this. Doing back to backs because Will is going be gone and we're going to just tell a little bit of our story,
14:11Speaker 2So that'd be cool. Yeah, we've done it, but we had to think about a 100,000 viewers a month at that time. We're about 600 plus now, believe it or not. I can't even believe that we're saying that.
14:30Speaker 2Clo and Glow, just obviously some of the differences. A lot of people will know the differences,
14:48Speaker 2yes, these are, and you can talk, I guess, while I actually show- Yeah, so you got the face serums, which are going to be actually a good product, which is obviously the copper is dark blue or purple, some would say. And then you got the product that they want to say there is GHK-
15:15Speaker 3actually plus SNAP-eight. Yep. Which SNAP-eight's not blue, so it's the GHK-two that's contributing to the blueness. And
15:31Speaker 3an actual good amount of GHK-3s that actually works. And this 1 you are not, obviously.
15:40Speaker 2you can tell like what we've seen and I'm sure most people have seen this explosion of peptides and amazing they are because they're amazing. But a lot of people are saying there are peptides in products because it's remember when like the
15:54Speaker 2happened and like there was keto bars everywhere. Those aren't really keto, but if you put keto on it, people bought it. Same thing with like peptides, you throw a peptide on it,
16:03Speaker 2people will buy it. So we wanted to show you the difference on actual same thing good with
16:10Speaker 3not ever, some peptides can be made and taken orally and actually work. So I want everybody I think that now there has been built up
16:18Speaker 3a stigma now that everybody thinks- They don't work. Every single oral peptide is just garbage. And that is not true, but the vast
16:31Speaker 3our stomach just kills off the active actual drug before it can actually reach us. But there are several
17:10Speaker 3kill off some of that. So you're not getting all 100 mg, but there's 1 reason why it's dosed at 100 mg because
17:36Speaker 2that are going to be able to create this a lot of more intelligent than most of us listening to this talking here is they're going to be able to break that barrier down.
17:48Speaker 2but as of now, that stigma that is kind of like, they don't work. There's some that do. They do. And like, because we've tried them and tested them and it's the way it is. And you're going to see that more and more. Yep. So back to the serum, there are trials. So like we try to not bore everybody with like too much detailed science.
18:07Speaker 3But there are, and I won't quote the trials even though I've read most of them, but they
18:38Speaker 3there is a trial there that have done compared GHK-3Cu to minoxidil and GHK-3C was found as the favorable.
19:00Speaker 3the trial is to punch out someone's skin a few times, right? Just see how fast it heals. Then with video and camera evidence
19:31Speaker 2And that's why they obviously have it in the face room. So I want to go through 1st a little bit of a demonstration with
19:41Speaker 2If you're like me and a man and you just want to make it easy, you just pop this off, you put it on your face and you think that that's it. And it's really not where you're going to get where it's going to shine the most like a cut, right? It's an open wound to a degree. You got to do it properly. Now, not daily, would say recommended about 3 days a week that you do this,
20:02Speaker 2but you get these little derm rollers at my bride. So I had to forgot it and I had to drive home and get it. But what you're going to do is you're going to fill the cup or bowl with alcohol,
20:15Speaker 2Make sure it's clean And you're going to rub that in. Like you're going to get it, make sure it's clean. Then you're
20:23Speaker 2your face. Just these are little needles for you men that don't know what I'm talking about as I did in that 1st. The micro needles. Yep. It's gonna they're little it feel like little needles on your face. It doesn't hurt, but it kinda opens up your skin slightly.
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21:30Speaker 2How will it work if you just put it on your face? Of course, it will. Mhmm. Will it work better like this? Yes. It's not cheap. There's how many bottles are in? It's a 20 bottle. There's 20 bottles 20 bottles of GHK c u. Of 100 mg GHK-
21:46Speaker 2mg of GHK- in there. That is a lot. That is a lot. So if you see 1 bottle of GHK-two that you're injecting, it's generally 100.
21:56Speaker 2So if you're going to pay the money for this, you want to do it right. It's going to work well.
22:04Speaker 2you do it nightly? That's going be up to you in your pocketbook, right? It still will work if you rub it on at night. I rub it on at night and then I rub lotion on it. That's how I do it. And I do this, I would like to say 3 days a week, like my wife tells me and I forget often. I do at least 1 or 2, but preferably 3 is where it's going to work the best, we think. Now,
22:28Speaker 2my beautiful bride has talked me into doing these like facial things that I never thought that I'd ever do in my life. But as you get older and you do start to look older,
22:38Speaker 2you start to be more open to these things, which I was. So I did a laser facial the 1st time and they like burn off the skin. It's very crazy. I wasn't expecting it and it hurts and it takes a long time to heal. Give or take how deep she goes, 7 days to 9 days. So the 1st time I did it and I didn't use the serum. 2nd time now and every time since, we rub this on our face, my wife and I, and it literally cuts the healing time down in 0.5. I'm not kidding. I'll tell you this, I went in there with my wife,
23:11Speaker 2myself, and a friend of ours, Kate. Remember when we all got it done? My wife and I used the serum and
23:17Speaker 2Kate did not. And we went to dinner, I think 3 or 4 days later, my thing was pretty much healed and
23:28Speaker 2Kate's gorgeous. It was just the face. Like, no, I was like, wow. She's like, well, you didn't give me any face here, Michael. You didn't ask.
23:35Speaker 2And so it really works. So for you ladies, you'll know what I'm talking about with that laser facial.
23:40Speaker 2And we had Doctor. Or Nurse Lee in here and she talked about it. She's the 1 that where we get it from. So that's the face
23:47Speaker 2serum and that's how you do it properly. If you're gonna get this, do it well and get your bang for your back. Now, the GHKCU
24:01Speaker 2and how I do it, you want to kind of leave it in. The longer you're going leave it on you, it's going to work better, right? So that's what I do. So what I do is I wash my hair and then
24:14Speaker 2as I'm kind of scrubbing the rest of my body and doing what I need to do. So I leave it in for a good minute and 0.5 to 2 minutes, and then I wash it out and it seems like it works really well. So that's how I do it. You know, you do you with that. I think that's how we have with, some trial and error stuff and some, a lot of people that have used it that we know of,
24:54Speaker 3growth phase of your follicle. So it pro not slows it, but it prolongs that growth phase, and it also kind of stimulates actual thicker follicle growth.
25:09Speaker 3shoot, I've been I actually use it and I do leave it in and it seems to work. So you'll see some minor differences, but sometimes a little minor difference is kind of what makes the difference. Yeah. So
25:21Speaker 2my wife, a good friend of ours, she's a hairdresser and she's in Orange County and she's like a pretty
25:29Speaker 2County. I know this because I see the bill after my bride gets her haircut, her hair done, haircut. It's
25:37Speaker 2spicy and it takes a lot of money sometimes to take care of you women. I get it. But anyway, she came in because she was, or her husband, I'm good friends with, came in talking about something else and was talking about how his bride was having some problems losing some hair. And I said, well, have you tried the GHK-3C shampoo? And he's like, no, tell me about it. And I explained
25:56Speaker 2it a little bit. He left and, took a bottle with him and he, she used it. 2 weeks later, she called me, which I don't talk to her much.
26:04Speaker 2She was blown away, blown away to the degree where like she was just given advice on different things and she ended up buying some
26:13Speaker 2and now she sells it in her spot because what's worse than a man losing his hair is a woman losing their hair and as you get older apparently that seems to be happening more and more to ladies. So I wasn't aware of that, but happens to all of us. Yep. Yep. It's going to happen to all of us. So an interesting thing, the
26:31Speaker 3have you heard, and I have heard this from tons and tons of people, not just the shampoo, but actually the SubQ injecting
26:41Speaker 3the pigment turn a little bit darker. So if you're a blonde girl, they're like, hey, what's my hair's a little bit darker? That actually has a true like, that's not just hearsay and people imagining things. There's a true, like, biochemical
27:08Speaker 3Your hair will start to darken up. The pigment will turn a little bit darker. It's not going to be overnight, but you'll notice it. And most people actually
27:36Speaker 3SubQ injecting SNAP Bait, right? And then we basically learned that really it should be used topically. It is
27:53Speaker 3helps soften those wrinkle lines and like fill in deep well and mix with the GHK ECU, right? Build collagen to fill in those wrinkle spots.
28:24Speaker 2you've been us men, they'll start to do things we never thought we would do with facials and stuff like that. Never even thought we would do that. But the
28:43Speaker 2because it freaking works. And so used in a face serum, it works because you're putting it on those wrinkles and whatnot. A cool thing about GHK-3CU
28:59Speaker 2it's the peptide of all peptides because it works so well. And people that lose a lot of weight, I was kind of thinking through this where,
29:09Speaker 2Your body changes, you know, you've lost 50 plus pounds, like your body's starting to change. You could lose some of the collagen.
29:19Speaker 2eat enough food, you're not getting any building materials. Exactly. So like if you're running Retatrutide and that's really all you're running, I would think a good add on would be a GHK-3CU
29:28Speaker 2because it's going to help with collagen production. It's going to help with that skin elasticity.
29:33Speaker 2So that's not talked about much, but I was kind of thinking about that recently. And so I wanted to kind of drop that because we were doing the GHK-3CU.
29:41Speaker 3add in some GHK-3CU, it really will start to make your skin probably look and feel a lot better. If you ask, so you know how, so people early on taking Semaglutide, Tirzepatide, right? And they would say, Oh man, yeah, but that stuff makes your eyesight go bad. It makes your hair fall out, makes your tint and your teeth and like, no, no, no, no, no. That does not do that. Ask anybody who's,
30:15Speaker 3And so you were a 100% right. Like, this is so anybody on a GLP-one, if you're just not eating what you used to be eating, you're not getting those essential nutrients. True.
30:25Speaker 3I would absolutely add GHK-3Cu. I would add Glo in, frankly, because BPC and TB-five hundred are also going
30:44Speaker 2makes too much sense. Yeah, it's great. And so 1 of the things I had somebody come in this morning, a friend of mine, brought a buddy, had some questions on some things.
31:03Speaker 2at this point and seeing changes in them and how their body reacts and whatnot. Tirzepatide,
31:24Speaker 2right? So if tirzepatide stops that and you're not, it just blocks that or at a true tide where you still get hungry, you just eat less, which one's better? But people
31:37Speaker 2it's kind of a mind F so to speak with the tirzepatide because it does block that hunger so much more.
31:44Speaker 2But you're not, you're supposed to eat. You're supposed to eat. That's why Retrutide is just leaps and bounds over like a product, a compound that's amazing in itself, but it's like leaps and bounds because you're supposed to eat. So if you're not eating, you're going to start having those problems with the skin and like Semaglutide.
32:02Speaker 2You see all those movie stars, they weren't eating. They weren't like they're losing their teeth because of Semaglutide.
32:10Speaker 2sucked up because it's called malnourishment. You ever seen a Tweaker? No doubt. They look horrible because they don't eat. It's the same thing. So,
32:19Speaker 2yeah. So, that's, I think if you're just logical and people are still running Tirzepatide, no judgment,
32:24Speaker 2road trip tags is just so much better because you're supposed to eat for the love of God, eat.
32:41Speaker 3well, right? Or the Retta just, or I started with Retta, did this, you have now artificially made
32:48Speaker 3God given hunger goes through the roof, right? Because again, that is a survival mechanism for us, right? The need to eat some damn food. Totally. When you suppress that, that mechanism
33:09Speaker 3you've now made your hunger go way higher than it ever was before. Because we've talked to so many
33:19Speaker 2might read this way, but that's hundreds and hundreds of people say this. So which 1 reads this way or you've seen it
33:29Speaker 2which one's better? So you choose on that. But yeah, so that's what we kind of talk about. I think the GHKCU is gonna be put on top of Retatrutide. If you're not running it, try it because it'll help with that skin ladies and men. So
33:41Speaker 2we'll talk a little bit about, you know, GHKC is an amazing product. You came up with an product that you add to the GHKC, so touch on that too. Oh, so so stings like a son of a bitch. Yes. No, it really does. People do not like injecting GHKC
34:00Speaker 3I feel the sting. I think everybody does. I don't get it as bad. Like, it's not so bad where I won't do it. But Yeah.
34:08Speaker 3Me, I thought of and talked to our chemist, but really it's my idea and just kinda asked him, like, confirmed some things, right,
34:23Speaker 3And I don't know if- I wouldn't put out the formula, but I would tell us that Yeah. We have
34:31Speaker 3It's available and it's just called, we have to kind of change the name, but it's buffered reconstitution solution.
34:41Speaker 3the benzoyl alcohol, and then another secret ingredient that actually and I would say probably about 80%,
34:48Speaker 3it dulls the sting. Like, I get people texting me all the time like, holy shit. Yeah. That actually really, really works.
34:55Speaker 3And it can be used in most every I actually haven't come across a peptide that it doesn't work in, like acetic acid. You know, that should be used in SLUIP and an AOD and IGF-one,
35:15Speaker 3will not. It's a great, yeah, it's great. And it's available. If anybody has any questions, use it for NAD-1T,
35:21Speaker 3NAD, I kind of did it because I wanted to take NAD, but it hurt me so damn bad that I couldn't It hurt bad. I dumped NAD and he's like, Woah.
35:36Speaker 2endless, I mean, they're just, it's so awesome. And then some of the benefits of like, GHK-3CU,
36:00Speaker 2and 4 together. So let's kind of break them down a little bit. Sure. So 1st of all, so in glow that's, that's,
36:07Speaker 3well, I guess we'll start with GHK-3s. You already talked about it, but basically its job is to,
36:28Speaker 3on a skin level, but think of GHK-3C really just really mostly affecting the dermis layer of our skin. BPC,
36:41Speaker 3is referred to as TB-five 100 usually, but like what we really want is thymosin beta-four.
36:54Speaker 3Then there's thymosin beta-four, which is what you really want. That's 54 amino acids. It's much more complex and works a whole lot better. That
37:02Speaker 3but still is referred to as TB-five hundred, but that's what we're really talking about. So BPC-157:
37:27Speaker 3is an injured spot? And also it is mostly really working on tendons and ligaments. Okay?
38:00Speaker 3inflaming. Right? You roll your ankle and it swells up, right? That's God's way of healing this injury. Blood comes
38:08Speaker 3in and then the often question I've always asked is like, well, why then why is always, why do we always need to pull the inflammation out? Why does it give us, haven't we evolved enough to not overdo that? And the reason there is interesting that
38:31Speaker 3if you have not enough inflammation, you can get an infection from that from that wound
38:39Speaker 3you die. Okay? You are dead and life is no more. So it's going to take and that's basically kind of a guarantee.
38:46Speaker 3So it's gonna take whatever keeps you alive at whatever cost, but we're keep you alive. So it's gonna push too much inflammation there,
38:56Speaker 3and also to kind of immobilize the joint. Right? You ain't moving it. Hey, don't use that. That should hurt. Don't touch it. And
39:03Speaker 3then you'll stay alive. You may be injured longer, right? But you'll actually stay alive.
39:18Speaker 3hundred does a lot of the same. What am I missing here? Well, BPC is going to basically send the workers for ligaments and
39:30Speaker 3Cagman needed that stuff. Yeah, absolutely. We still need it. Mean, hell, we still need it. Like tendonitis, BPC is the place
39:47Speaker 3and yes, it's signaling all the workers. The TB-five 100 is doing really a lot of this. Oh, the last thing, here's what BPC does. It allows your body from all the food that you actually eat, right, it, like, hyper absorbs and converts that to collagen.
39:59Speaker 3Okay? Huge. Which is huge. So now you're eating the same, but now your body's creating twice as much building materials. Yeah. Awesome. TB-five
40:07Speaker 3100 is the workers, is this it it recruits all those stem cells and asks where BPC, where should I go? Where should I send my whole workforce, please? BPC tells it and then it goes and does that. It also reduces inflammation, inflammation.
40:42Speaker 3is the origination of a lot of issues, a lot of most all, I think, autoimmune disorders.
40:49Speaker 3all have gut health issues, whether you really know it or not, but your gut could be healthier. The gut brain axis is a huge topic of study still and still mystifies us. But
41:06Speaker 3with our gut and the rest of our body, right? You feel it in your gut, right? Trust your gut.
41:21Speaker 2TB and the BPC. Will and I both said that those would be the that would be the 1 compound that we would both choose because we're gonna lift weights forever. Yeah. And, I mean, I was just in
42:05Speaker 1Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes.
42:15Speaker 2With my family and I brought a bottle, but I hadn't mixed it. I waited 3 days. I was like, I'll just see. 3 days into the vacation, I told my wife, I'm like, man, I am just like achy and slow. I missed that stuff and started taking it. It's crazy how well it works. I mean, I'm still blown away by it. I mean, immediately
42:41Speaker 2it's just awesome. And we could have added that to talk too because that Wolverine is just amazing in itself. Then you got the BPC,
43:02Speaker 3injectable versus we talked about BPC and KPV being available in oral forms. So that is true. And if the primary purpose is to heal
43:26Speaker 3go heal the gut, right? The opposite is true if you take it in an oral form. 1st things 1st is to go heal your gut and then start working on a systemic
43:43Speaker 3realized that, you know, we we all know we have stomach acid. Okay? Has anybody ever asked themselves why do,
43:50Speaker 3if it if it just burns through and melts down anything that I put in my stomach, why doesn't it just burn right through my whole skin and melt me alive? Right? Well, the reason is we have this mucus
44:05Speaker 3the scientists have said, Well, what the hell? Okay, so what's making this so impermeable to this acid? And as they look further, they realize it actually is not impermeable. The stomach the acid's burning it back, but it basically heals itself faster
44:28Speaker 3body protection compound, body protective compound, whatever you wanna call it, but that's just just full of BPC. So they said, well, what the hell? Okay. If it heals that so well It heals faster than it can eat it away. That is crazy.
44:44Speaker 3let's try to Let's see if we can bottle it, remake it in a lab, bottle it, and inject it somewhere else and see what else it heals. And so,
44:54Speaker 2Why would you do any of them all 3? I think that's a matter of an opinion. I don't really think
45:00Speaker 2This kind of depends. Like you can knock out a lot of stuff with the Clo. Right? So that's for you ladies. Well, I think I like, I think you like to kind of go that route. I run the Wolverine separate because it's really the objective to do to fix injuries. You know, if you're lifting weights at 49,
45:29Speaker 2know, a good year, year and 0.5 ago when Will and I started talking about the Wolverine, it wasn't called Wolverine at the time, at least to my knowledge, we were kind of talking through it as will it be good to run it together or would it be separate? And I think we both kind of agreed at 1st,
45:46Speaker 2either way because I think the TV, in my opinion, is more powerful. It goes through your body well, where
45:51Speaker 2BPC is you need to inject it into the injury- And more frequently. And more frequently. And
45:56Speaker 2your TB is like what, twice a week. It's so long- It's 2, 3 times a week. Yeah. But that's why they start putting these together because they work amazing.
46:05Speaker 2So, you know, the Wolverine, if you have injuries, boom, if you're older and they're going to lift weights, boom,
46:28Speaker 2If you're going to have an injury, you don't want to take Clo into the injury. That's gonna sting like a son of a bitch. Do Wolverine.
46:44Speaker 2I don't think that, I think running them that Wolverine together is just the answer always. I don't even take them separate anymore. You? No, I don't ever take just TB-five hundred and just BPC peanut butter and better and
46:56Speaker 2jelly. They're just so good together. So that's my take on it. I mean, other people might have different answers,
47:05Speaker 3I think that the, I mean, and you know this too and think the same way, like the only reason
47:11Speaker 3that you would not really want to take glower clothes because there is such thing as taking too much copper. So,
47:26Speaker 3if you go to a certain point anymore, that's not really gonna help. But like with these 2, the more you do, the better it is going to work. Yep. Right? Exponentially. So,
47:35Speaker 3you but you just so really, you would want to do high doses of of BPC TB for an acute injury. Absolutely. And you if it has GHKCu
47:58Speaker 3So that would be the only difference. Mean, otherwise, if that were not the case, then I would always do clo. Yeah. Shit, I would do a little big, like high If do it like daily, there you go. Run the clo. That's great. But, and then,
48:10Speaker 3yeah, spot inject the Wolverine. I would spot inject and do that daily even though the TB-five hundred only needs to really be done 3 times a week. It ain't gonna hurt daily. So and the BPC does need to be done daily.
48:23Speaker 3It'll still work not daily, not done daily, but I I would suggest it. Yeah. If you take off. Have you heard of,
48:47Speaker 3your collagen in your skin. Okay? So it's breaking down the collagen that's existing, right? As well as the same time that it's building new stuff, right? So sometimes people who start with some GHK-two at a little bit too high of a dose,
49:23Speaker 3those of you, that is a thing. It actually is, there was some scientific basis behind that. So if you notice that, don't quit before the miracle happens. Don't be like, Oh shit, this is doing the opposite. You just keep going. I'd probably like lower the dose a bit.
49:49Speaker 33 times a week. But with BPC and TB, as we know, you can do 50 mg a day. But I would say on a general dose of BPC and TB, same thing,
50:02Speaker 3per injection of each of those. That seems to be the best on a wallet. Like, that's a reasonable dose that people can afford. No less than 0.5 of a milligram each.
50:19Speaker 2because that would be a perfect fit for these. Obviously, too, for us older folk, the HGH.
50:25Speaker 2Think HGH is I mean, it should be a perfect- It's a perfect combo. It is- helps you heal, expedite your skin.
50:37Speaker 2Yep. Yeah. You, so So, I mean, we can go on and on about, like, adding those in, but that's gonna be that. And and ladies or gents, if you get any type of facial, try the face serum. It really helps.
50:50Speaker 2Then if you got worried about like hair, losing hair or whatnot, start using the shampoo.
50:59Speaker 3from past podcasts and research, NAD just rapidly declines out of a person in their human, in
51:15Speaker 3it usually declines at a pretty steady rate, but a 20 year old person usually tests out for about 200
51:36Speaker 3mean, hey, our body has this and needs it and wants it. And as it declines, look at what old people's skin looks like. Yeah. Absolutely. So use it. Cycle off GHK-two.
51:47Speaker 3Question from the crowd. Should you? Yes. I have heard people say, hey, do it for a year? It's amazing.
52:06Speaker 3it diminishes over time. The longer longer you do it, it's not going to, and I'm talking about the injectable subQ. I think that topically I would put it on every day for the rest of my life. Absolutely. Yeah, for sure.
52:18Speaker 3But for the injectable, yeah, I'd say 3 months, then give yourself a couple of weeks. Yeah. Also what we didn't talk about, you get a tattoo, rub it on the
52:30Speaker 2Yeah, it's been great. That was actually our tattoo artist. It's the same guy. He recommended it. I'm like, oh, that's not going to pull up the ink. He said, no, dude, make sure you do it. Mine healed. Healed real fast. Really quick. Side note, don't use 1 of these things.
52:44Speaker 3Okay, with a smart idea to put numbing cream, like I'm gonna get a tattoo, right? And we all know like numbing cream
52:50Speaker 3works better once you have an open wound, right? Then you put it in, it gets into your bloodstream and it really works. So I thought this would be a brilliant idea and- Did you? Yeah. And dermal
53:09Speaker 3Holy shit. It's basically like I tattooed my own leg and then now he's tattooing right on top of it. Oh, man. Right?
53:29Speaker 3it hurt incredibly bad with the numbing cream. It didn't do anything. Usually the numbing cream that we have
53:34Speaker 3works really, really, really well. But then we started, we inject we gave me like 8 injections, the lidocaine.
53:43Speaker 3So I kind of outsmarted myself on that 1. Shot myself in the foot. Thought too much on that 1, Thought way too much. And by the way, for the record, we've both got a whole lot of tattoos before we ever use numbing cream. Hell yeah. But as you get older, I don't want the pain. It hurts. I
53:58Speaker 2don't even care anymore. Like taking it. Hurts, man. I can do it on my hands. They're so quick, but I'm like, dude, I use it every time. Yeah. And kind of the same principle, you know,
54:06Speaker 3numbing cream works so much better if you put it on and then put Saran wrap around it. Similar
54:30Speaker 3GHK acne also. I know lots of people who have been to taking GHK-1C and glow and their acne
54:43Speaker 2When you guys are listening to this, we will be, which will be Monday or whenever you listen to it, drops Monday and we will be getting ready for our trip. Will will be gone for 2 weeks. I will be gone for a week,
54:55Speaker 2but we got a lot of cool stuff coming and we have a lot of rad guests coming on the podcast. We got some doctors coming on. We got some gut health therapists coming on. We got some water
55:05Speaker 2gals coming on that know a lot about the Keegan and the Keegan- Yeah, Keegan- Keegan. Keegan. Our
55:12Speaker 2producer behind the wheel back there tried to kill me when she took out the water. Started
55:23Speaker 2think sulfuric acid literally burns through you and everything. Oh, shit. I was drinking. But we got a lot of cool stuff coming, man. And other than that, what else? Do you have anything else? Check out school. There's a lot of stuff
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