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0:00Speaker 0Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes,
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0:24Speaker 0Welcome back to the pep chat of the week podcast.
0:27Speaker 0I'm your host JD Denham. Like always, my buddy sitting next to me, William T.
0:32Speaker 0Haas. 1st
0:33Speaker 0episode of 2026.
0:36Speaker 0Boom. New Year. Excited. Excited. We got a lot of big stuff coming, man. We got a lot of good stuff coming. I'm excited. You're excited. We're sitting here for the 1st podcast. We got 2
0:47Speaker 0awesome peptides that we're going to talk about.
0:50Speaker 0Know that these 2 are a couple of my favorites,
0:53Speaker 0so I'm ready to dig into this. But anything exciting
0:57Speaker 0happened on New Year's for you? No. We had- Boring and Good? Boring and Good.
1:04Speaker 1I had just a few friends over with their kids,
1:07Speaker 1and they all went swimming in the pool in the rain in the hot tub. I tried to warm the pool up.
1:13Speaker 1And it's kinda warm, but, you know, kids are crazy. I'm nuts. I don't remember being I feel like I I was a skinny kid, so I was,
1:20Speaker 1oh, it's cold and cold water. I hate cold water. My friends could just sit in the ocean all day long. Yeah. I would to turn purple. Yeah.
1:28Speaker 1But whatever. These kids were these kids were having fun running around. And then, you know, video games, dude. I just these video games drive me crazy. Yeah, it's bad.
1:37Speaker 1I listened to just bought Jack's 1, and I'm sitting on the what's the last night? Was sitting on my chair. And, you know, they it's different for us. We had Nintendo, dude, but they're like like Ninja Warrior. He's just all over the the living room, and I was like, jeez. What do they have, like a VR thing? It's like a little, it's not a Wii, but it's kinda like that. And so he's just like, I mean, like, rolling around, and I'm just like, I got a little bit of videos. I'm just like, dude. Yeah. So we bought I got 1 of those, like, meta VR's where you put it over your thing. I mean, it's actually incredibly cool. Yeah. It's like, damn. This thing's awesome. But we've had got it for River, and he doesn't ever play it. And then but when kids come over, they play it, and we're literally, like, 4 for 4. Right. It's, like, catastrophic injuries Yeah. The time a kid plays it. Because They run-in the wall? They, yeah, they run-in the wall or they're, like, flailing as hard as you can to get too close to a countertop and just flush their hand on thing and out on the ground crying.
2:28Speaker 0Videos are funny online. Yeah. They are. People running into the wall. Yeah.
2:32Speaker 1So I gave the VR to 1 of River's best friends on Christmas. No way. Because Got it out of here. That's because he didn't ever use it. It's like,
2:42Speaker 1it's expensive and cool boy and other kids appreciate
2:45Speaker 1Yeah. This.
2:47Speaker 0We're So we're working on the appreciation
2:50Speaker 0your toys, they get given away. Hey, man. I'm on I'm on that boat. So we're we're working on that too. Yeah. Yeah. Gratitude was not heavily at
2:59Speaker 0sitting within my sons
3:01Speaker 1for Christmas. It's taught you know, I mean, it is in a child's nature. Right? It's like, what's the most selfish
3:06Speaker 1being in the world is like a newborn child. Mine have just everything is about me. Mine. And that gets a little bit better
3:13Speaker 1as they age. And so,
3:16Speaker 1I don't know, they're still young, so that's
3:19Speaker 1yeah. And sharing, like, literally, it was like, look, dude. If 1 more time if I hear you say 1 more time that you're not gonna let him play with your toys, right, I'm giving you that toy away. Yeah. Like, you need to share. I agree. Just because you're lucky enough to have this stuff,
3:33Speaker 0share it with other people. And I'm serious. Me too. I'm a bad cop too. Will throw this iPad out the window. Watch me. I'm happy to poke it over my knee. Yeah. I paid for it, and I will throw it out the window. Yes.
3:45Speaker 1And I'll feel so happy about it. Satisfied and not feel bad when they'll be gone.
3:51Speaker 0So that's coming soon. Unless you're on a flight, you need an iPad. People,
3:55Speaker 1iPad saved us. Yeah. Yeah. Although and then sometimes when you do wanna just chill and the kid doesn't have
4:01Speaker 1I mean,
4:02Speaker 0there are necessary times. Sometimes it is really nice where they just go and be quiet. Well, on a little side note on this, like, I'm just kidding. Like, people, like any parents out there, I'm assuming you're gonna agree with this. Like, we've
4:13Speaker 0really paid attention. I don't know what it is about this damn iPad, these kids.
4:19Speaker 0It changes his personality. He goes into like demon kid. Like when he's not on the iPad for days, he's ironed out. He listens better. As soon as he starts getting on that damn iPad, he's like obsessed with it. When we wanna take when we wanna go sit down for dinner, throw his fits, it's insane, dude. So like, I'm like firsthand seeing this. This is like,
4:39Speaker 0dude, that stuff's the It's
4:40Speaker 1bad. Literally bad. Exactly
4:43Speaker 1it to a tee. It's crazy. So that's not an individual problem. Yeah. It's like universal.
4:49Speaker 1I call him like Gollum, right, from Lord of the Reyes. Isn't he precious? Know. He freaks out if he's shaking. I know. He's crazy. A little scary. Yeah.
4:57Speaker 0Yeah. Yeah. So
4:59Speaker 0anyways, that is, it's a it's a being a parent these days are harder because we didn't have to deal with that stuff. But so, like, sometimes, like, I can't even have a conversation with my wife
5:08Speaker 0because there's 2 kids screaming. So sometimes it's easy to put them on a dead iPad and let them do that so we can kinda get some stuff done, but
5:14Speaker 1we pay for it later. Pay for it later. So it's tough. It is tough. It is tough, and then I know, right, people will be like, Oh, Pat, parent, your pet just put your kid in the video game. Yeah.
5:25Speaker 0It's
5:27Speaker 1evil. Sometimes
5:28Speaker 1it's kind of necessary, but I couldn't agree more. It's,
5:33Speaker 1yeah, get outside
5:35Speaker 1and play, but then they I don't know. Then they- We were like the last
5:40Speaker 0of the Mohicans, dude. Like, we didn't play at Saints. I mean, Nintendo was alright. I was never a big Nintendo dude. I was outside breaking stuff. You know, I was a little bit of a wild kid and kind throwing rocks at things I probably shouldn't have and stuff, but at least I wasn't inside. I mean, dude, listen, this is not judgment,
5:55Speaker 0so I'm gonna forewarn you when I'm about to say this. Like, the dudes that are still sitting there playing the video games all day, like,
6:01Speaker 0I don't know, man. It's each his own, but like, my wife my wife was always like, I'm so glad you're not a video game guy, you know?
6:09Speaker 0Right.
6:10Speaker 0GHK-3s. Nothing wrong with playing video games. So you guys are doing
6:13Speaker 0men who still play video games. Each is not my gig. Thank God. So each is on. But let's get into and it, my friends. Okay, so we got 2.
6:21Speaker 0Body protective compound, better known as BPC-one
6:25Speaker 057
6:26Speaker 0and Delta sleep inducing peptide, which is better known for DSIP.
6:31Speaker 0Now, these 2 are very different,
6:34Speaker 0but we'll get into how they tie together
6:36Speaker 0here momentarily.
6:38Speaker 0But I want to start with BPC-1571.
6:42Speaker 0Almost
6:43Speaker 0everybody knows about it. 2,
6:46Speaker 0for a lack of a better way to say it, it's almost like a gateway
6:50Speaker 0into peptides,
6:51Speaker 0getting into them more. Why? Because most people who lift weights have had tendonitis and things like that. And if you are 40 and lifting weights, there is no way you don't have tendonitis. You haven't had it multiple times because getting old, you just get that where you can't even do curls. It's brutal.
7:09Speaker 0So that's kind of a gateway, I think, for a lot of, for me, for a lot of our friends. So I know that you and I kind of know the cool story about how
7:16Speaker 0BPC
7:17Speaker 0came about. For anybody that doesn't know, it's a cool story. Let me throw it over to you, and why don't you kind of unwind where they found it? So when how they so yes. BPC-one
7:27Speaker 1hundred 57 is body protection compound, 157. So scientists basically were wondering,
7:33Speaker 1hey,
7:34Speaker 1if our stomach acid just burns and disintegrates everything that we put in the stomach, okay, why doesn't it just burn a hole right through ourselves?
7:43Speaker 1Right? Makes sense. Because it makes sense. Because it can. It can the acids should
7:47Speaker 1burn right through our flesh. And
7:50Speaker 1the reason is that, I mean, God is smart, and he's made our bodies this way. But there is like a mucous membrane,
7:58Speaker 1right, that lines our stomach. Okay? They said, Well, what the hell? Why is that so strong? Okay? They put it under a microscope and they identified this 1 peptide chain that is
8:09Speaker 1that this mucous membrane is just full of. And, actually, the mucous membrane does does get burnt through. The deal is, though, that there's so much of this BPC-one
8:20Speaker 1157 that it heals itself
8:23Speaker 1faster than the stomach acids can burn through it. Okay? So cool. Which is cool. And they say, well, well, okay.
8:30Speaker 1If this thing can heal
8:32Speaker 1itself that fast, can it apply to different parts in the human body besides that? So, you know, they pulled it out, recreated
8:40Speaker 1the peptide,
8:41Speaker 1and decided, hey, let's try this and inject it into a human and see if it helps recover something else, and it absolutely does.
8:48Speaker 1That was Superman. It's and that was Superman.
8:51Speaker 1It's 1 of the most, I don't know, I guess, fast acting, effective, and
8:56Speaker 1well known peptides
8:58Speaker 1out for good reason. Yeah. It really, really, really works and relatively quick.
9:04Speaker 1It's
9:05Speaker 1but but so, like, I guess, limitations. So it is really worry
9:09Speaker 1really focusing on collagen. Okay? And therefore, anything that's made out of collagen. So so its main focus is tendons and ligaments.
9:19Speaker 1When there's 2 ways to take BPC-one hundred 57. There's oral pills, okay, or or injectables.
9:25Speaker 1The orals are really going to
9:28Speaker 1reinforce the stomach lining. Okay? So those of you who have leaky gut,
9:33Speaker 1like
9:34Speaker 1leaky gut, I forget the actual scientific name of that. But, basically, what is happening is your mucous membrane is has a hole being burnt out of it. Lurking through it.
9:44Speaker 1Ulcerative colitis. K? So that is what's happening. And you for some reason, your stomach lining is whacking some BPC or has been broke down too much, and now that acid is burning through and burning in your stomach, and it's very uncomfortable. So what so oral version, cool. That's gonna just that's gonna replenish that mucous membrane, and it's BPC is, like, FDA approved for that use.
10:08Speaker 1K? It is proven, and it works for that absolute use. So pills is really gonna focus back back to your gut where it was made. Injections is gonna focus on your body, and it does have a systemic effect. So there's 3
10:20Speaker 13, I think. 3 3 or 4 main things that BPC does. A, it's a signaling peptide. So it will go look at your body and say, where are we deficient in collagen? K? So if anybody has a torn
10:32Speaker 1tendon, tendonitis,
10:34Speaker 1you know, ligaments torn, it's gonna know that, and it's gonna focus everybody's all the healing
10:41Speaker 1all the healing actions that take place in the human body right there. K?
10:46Speaker 12, it helps with collagen absorption. So normally, we eat food, and we turn that into collagen. Now our body doesn't turn it convert that very well, nor does it allow our body to actually absorb all of the collagen. So BPC is gonna just boost the hell out of the collagen absorption. So we're getting twice as much building materials Huge. Essentially
11:06Speaker 1to go heal that single injury spot. Yeah.
11:09Speaker 1Angiogenesis.
11:11Speaker 1So it assists
11:12Speaker 1in the formation of new blood vessels. So blood is life. Okay? Blood carries nutrients,
11:18Speaker 1and nutrients heal things. This is why
11:21Speaker 1and it allows, like, the right amount of inflammation.
11:25Speaker 1Okay? So we need inflammation. Why do we have inflammation? It's because that because that is just blood going to an injured spot. This is why when we roll our ankle, it swells. Yeah. K? That's God's way of Healing it. Healing it. Right? It's pushing blood down. Now our body does go a little bit too overboard at times, and this is why people want to, you know, ice and get rid of inflammation. But it actually kinda helps regulate the inflammation. It allows the correct amount of inflammation to come in, but not an overwhelming amount of inflammation even throughout the whole body. Now I did say the injections are systemic. It helps the whole whole body, but you are better off if you have an acute injury to
12:04Speaker 1inject right into the spot. But, basically, the goal is like, hey, if it is my knee, I get tendonitis right right here. You know, I'm gonna do daily injections and make a triangle around the spot and daily
12:16Speaker 1just do the injections right there. You can go intramuscularly
12:19Speaker 1or
12:20Speaker 1if you have 3 arms or use, like, a chip clip if you want. Just do that, and then just put it subcutaneous,
12:27Speaker 1which is just underneath the skin instead of But in the injury. To the muscle. But I would put it right at the site of the injury. Because it's gonna bring blood. Yep. To it. It's gonna bring blood and healing materials and allow more collagen to get absorbed right into that spot and tell all the other things, all the
12:43Speaker 1stem cells and everything else to go heal, heal, heal. Get working. Yeah. Such a And it good 1. And it freaking works. I think that probably I have 15 friends at this point who've had just gnarly tendonitis and have all done this, and it has healed them. I had tendonitis so bad for mostly doing pull ups. I actually identified it. You can see where what tendon is is getting messed up and how you're hurting it by, hey. Let's pull on each finger. Which 1 is activating? Which one's hurting the most? Right? Yeah. And for me, it was my pinky, which makes sense.
13:13Speaker 1Here's a trivia question. If you had 1 finger to cut off,
13:17Speaker 1what would the finger be? Which would which finger would you choose? Besides the thumb, we all know that we need our thumb. Oh. What do you think is the most
13:24Speaker 0Probably this guy. Used? Probably this guy. You think you don't use this 1? Yeah. I think you could do the good with these 3. That's that's That is correct. Because if you think about it, this guy, you can probably but, like Absolutely. You need these other guys a little bit. Pinky is the most important 1. This is our final grip Yeah. Right there. Like, that's what solidifies grip.
13:42Speaker 1So it makes sense. I did lots of pull ups, and
13:46Speaker 1and then every time that
13:48Speaker 1just just a little word to the wise, grip the bar and keep the bar gripped. You develop tendonitis.
13:53Speaker 1That that way, you're using your muscle.
13:56Speaker 1As soon as that bar starts slipping like this, all we're doing is just locking our fingers, and now we're just using our tendons
14:02Speaker 1to hold that bar. Right. And our tendons are not that strong. They're not meant to hold that much weight. So just regrip. Yeah. Okay? Take a little break, regrip, and do it again. You won't develop tendonitis. But if you do, which most of us just keep moving. It sucks.
14:18Speaker 1BPC is the the healer. But, I mean, I was hurting so bad I couldn't even, like, dry myself off with a towel, like pushing, you know, pushing against myself.
14:25Speaker 1Just killing me. And
14:28Speaker 1know, 30 days of BPC daily,
14:31Speaker 1they were about 95%
14:32Speaker 1better and have not come back since. It's crazy
14:37Speaker 0too how many times I've used it for injuries, and I'm still blown away by it. I know. So
14:41Speaker 0a little fun fact of how I got into peptides, know, Will's been into peptides a lot longer than me. I mean, this was like probably 6 years ago. Like,
14:49Speaker 0as he said, I had tendonitis in my elbow and I couldn't even do curl. I literally couldn't even do curls. And I usually muscle through everything. Like, I'm just gonna work out. Like, it's either I work out or somebody gets stabbed. I'm going to the gym. You know, I work out injured all the time, but man, I couldn't even
15:04Speaker 0work out. That's how bad it was. And so I called Will and I said, you know, we were talking about it, blah blah blah. And he goes, try this. And I had not even heard of peptides at the time. What is it? BPC-one
15:13Speaker 0hundred 57. How do you use it? You inject it right into that, you know, mind hypnotic right there. Man, I don't know what to know, maybe 5 days. It was very quick. It was very quick and I was like, Holy shit.
15:24Speaker 0Wow. Yeah. So that was my 1st, well, so as I said, for lack of a better way to say it, gateway
15:30Speaker 0into peptides for most people is either Retrutide or BPC, in my opinion. You do those, those 2 are the 2 that actually work very quickly.
15:39Speaker 0And I think that most people kind of start with those 2. Yeah, for the most part. For the most part. Yeah.
15:45Speaker 0Another 1, though, like,
15:47Speaker 0I'm constantly blown away by how good that they work. Will and I were talking about this before we started recording it. I was just in Cabo,
15:55Speaker 0and I always take peptides with me. I don't usually always take the BPC or the TB, but I
16:02Speaker 0took the BPC just not thinking that I was gonna need it.
16:06Speaker 0And I'm glad I did because I went, like, I think it was the 2nd day I was lifting straight bar bench. And man, on the 2nd 1, I freaking am
16:15Speaker 0positive that my chest ripped.
16:18Speaker 0I was like, Woah. And to the degree where I stopped doing chest that day, again, which is rare for me. If I stop, then I'm hurt. And I was actually worried that I freaking really injured it. So I was like, Dude, now I just got here. So I went back, man, and loaded that BPC up and blasted
16:34Speaker 0it. And I'm not kidding you. Like, this is not at a convenience of us sitting on this, talking about this peptide.
16:40Speaker 0Within 3 hours after injecting it, the pain had subsided quite a bit. And I was like, Wow, wow. You know? And then so the entire trip, I blasted it the whole time. And today, it was the 1st day this morning, I lifted my chest for this time and I went really slow and light. But man, the expedition
16:58Speaker 0of how freaking fast this thing recovered. I thought I was gonna be- I thought it was gonna be a pretty bad injury.
17:05Speaker 1Whoo!
17:06Speaker 0Now- Going way by it. So how much did you do? What was the injection? I mean, I had a 20 mg bottle and so I did it that week. So I was doing, you know, I think, was it like 30?
17:18Speaker 0Right. I was squeezing
17:19Speaker 0it in, you know, blasting it and healed quick. And then when I came home,
17:24Speaker 0added the Wolverine into it because I love the Wolverine, but the
17:28Speaker 0BPC is powerful, man. I would tell you,
17:31Speaker 0oh, somebody had come in earlier and we were talking about different things, blah, blah. And we
17:36Speaker 0got on the subject ironically, and I was telling him, I said, If I had 1 peptide
17:40Speaker 0that I could choose, and that would be my only 1 for the rest of my life, it would be BPC. It's freaking universal. 1, because I'm never going to stop lifting weights. Yeah. And 2, even though the injectable is not directly for the gut necessarily,
17:54Speaker 0I do believe that it does help with the gut. It will. It will, yeah. So it will primarily
17:59Speaker 1go for- Injuries for division. Deficiencies
18:02Speaker 1and injuries, and then secondarily
18:05Speaker 1go into the gut. So it's not like it's worthless for the gut. And everybody needs gut good gut health. Right? Especially for the gut. Brain access. They say, like, our guts are intuitive
18:14Speaker 1brain of our body. Huge. Very important that that thing is working
18:18Speaker 1working right. Yeah, that will benefit everybody.
18:22Speaker 1Other thing so so,
18:23Speaker 1okay, so you did 20 mg just to kinda help people. 20 mg over what? A week? Yeah. Okay. How many injections? Because I only was only there for week. Yeah. Every day. 5 days? Every day. Okay. Yeah. So 4 mg a day, let's say. Yeah. So BPC
18:38Speaker 1can be used high. There is no
18:41Speaker 0limit. I mean, you after surgery, you're doing A lot. What, 15 mgs a day? I did I did 2 bottles.
18:48Speaker 0I did 3 bottles in the morning of the TB BPC blend. Uh-huh. Bottles, 10 mg-ten mg. Yep. In the in the morning and then 2 at night. Was directed by our buddy Paul, who was on here recently,
19:00Speaker 0that he works with a lot of pro athletes. And so I did a 5 day of just saturating,
19:05Speaker 0blasting it. You know, I luckily have access to getting it,
19:10Speaker 0you know, and I was able to do high doses and blown
19:14Speaker 0away. We were here. Blown the freak away. How I was in the gym 2 weeks after my surgery, and I have, you know, quite a bit of followers on my channels. And like, people were like, What? They were seeing me in the gym because I was posting videos like, What are you thinking, dude? I'm like, I feel And freaking
19:28Speaker 0then like 2 weeks later, I think I was starting to lift heavier and like, Dude, you're nuts. I'm like, I feel freaking amazing. Yeah. And so now,
19:35Speaker 0just for anybody, you know, for me, what I'm trying to do is like, Will and I talk about this all the time, but like,
19:41Speaker 0we need as humans, we need to think through things. Think through our diet, what works for me, think through our workout
19:48Speaker 0strategy,
19:49Speaker 0blah, blah, blah. Have to think through everything and have a protocol and have like a direction, right? So for me, with back surgeries, I've had 4,
19:55Speaker 0I'm
19:56Speaker 0taking a lot of the Wolverine
19:58Speaker 0on a daily basis. You know, I'm able to do that.
20:01Speaker 0You know, I'd like to have my wife do it, but I don't wanna have her do it every time. So I'm just kind of reaching back and pinching, you know, back here, and I'm putting some back there. Why?
20:10Speaker 0I mean, it helps with the TB-
20:12Speaker 0cells, the tissue repair, blah, blah, blah. I'm trying to- Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes,
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20:20Speaker 0Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes.
20:30Speaker 0Stay ahead of this and not have another surgery. So if I can blast this every day,
20:35Speaker 0screw it, dude. Why would I not? Yep. You know I mean? I it 3 days a week. Just, I mean, I would Try Heal? You like Try Heal? I do like Try Heal because it has so much TB-five hundred in it,
20:46Speaker 1And it's got KPV, and KPV just directly helps the gut. And, again, that
20:51Speaker 1helps everybody. But, I mean, I'm doing it 3 days a week and probably about 2 mg of BPC
20:58Speaker 1and 2.5 times. That's that's 2 that's like, I don't know, it's 8 mg or something like that of TB-five hundred and then
21:06Speaker 12 mg KPV
21:07Speaker 13 days a week.
21:10Speaker 1I know a huge difference. I've had 15 plus surgeries.
21:14Speaker 1I just lived been a rough kid and played sports. I have 2 pins in my my right foot, a pin in my left foot. I've had back surgery. I've had, like, a full line
21:22Speaker 1stomach with metal mesh. I've had broken
21:26Speaker 1all my fingers, basically, of wrist surgery. So when I get up in the morning, I'm limping around for the 1st hour. But when I am now actually taking these things on a regular basis, I don't. I wake up
21:37Speaker 1I I don't know. I feel amazing. I don't feel like I was, you know, 15 again, but
21:43Speaker 1but I feel so much better than I than I actually should.
21:47Speaker 1The other thing I guess I wanna point out from questions is we talk about sub q,
21:53Speaker 1intramuscular like I have even, and I'm not saying I'm just telling this is my personal story, in my tendonitis here, right, I can feel the tendon. I know I can feel that tendon. I I actually inject, like,
22:05Speaker 1right into the tendon
22:07Speaker 1with a brand new needle. Oh, yeah. It gets better cut through like butter. Yeah. And it's kind of a weird feeling. But
22:16Speaker 1and it I guess it's a little discomfort,
22:18Speaker 1I guess, when you're when you're actually injecting it because it's just some foreign substance into a tightly wound piece of tissue. But
22:26Speaker 1I seem to have really good results with that. Oh, yeah. It just works.
22:29Speaker 1Like I said, I mean, it's
22:32Speaker 1like you how
22:35Speaker 0good it works, it still amazes me. It's almost like you haven't had an injury for a while, and then you take it and you're like, holy shit. Woah. Like, dude. I had a little fun fact for my old man. You know, he's older and like, he's had back problems forever. Like, you know, he knows what his son does. And I'm like, Pop, listen, like take this damn stuff, dude. Would you take this stuff? He doesn't want to inject. I get it. Listen, I don't judge, whatever. Anyway, so long story short, the man finally, on Christmas,
22:59Speaker 0started He was over the house and
23:01Speaker 0injected it for the 1st time. I did it for him. I sent him home with a bottle, and he's raving about it. Yeah. Yeah. He took my son to jujitsu today because I had to come in and record it below, and he's wearing the the Warrior Maker shirt and all that stuff. He's proud old man, dude, and he's like, my nut stuff's to pass. So that's great. Good story. Same to my my mother has had arthritis in both of her hands. She's, like, 90 now.
23:22Speaker 1And started injecting the BBZ, and actually, like, courageously
23:27Speaker 1like, I can't believe that she figured out
23:29Speaker 1because it's tough to inject yourself in your own hand. Right? Like, you have to basically dig the needle in
23:34Speaker 1under the legs and then get it in there. And she's the 1 that said, well, I just went and got that, like, a chip clip
23:40Speaker 1Smart. And clipped it in there. But she said that she stopped, and she goes to the doctor. She she had brain surgery, and she wants to know
23:47Speaker 1she wants to see how her body's actually recovering, right, like how her motor skills are working. But previously, she went in for a checkup, and the doctor's like, yeah, you still have arthritis. And she's like, not in my right hand anymore.
23:58Speaker 1This hand sure doesn't feel like it, which is the hand she's been injecting in. Yeah. But post surgery, she stopped the BPC because she said, it works too good, and I wanna know exactly what my brain healing is doing to myself, right, and not artificially heal away too fast.
24:13Speaker 1Each his own, man. Each his own. But that's a good thing. So there it is. I mean, BPC is is awesome. I guess I would say it depends on you can't you really just cannot overdo it. Yeah. So the amount you wanna take depends on your pocketbook,
24:27Speaker 1really. But
24:29Speaker 1I would say, hey, ranging between, like, 0.5 a milligram. I wouldn't there's no point in really doing anything less than that. Yeah. Doing 0.5 a milligram daily
24:37Speaker 1up to, on the average, I don't know, a normal person,
24:41Speaker 12 mg
24:43Speaker 1daily.
24:43Speaker 1Yeah. Daily. Daily. Don't miss it. Or 3 days a week. Like, I go so for general like, if we're talking about acute injury healing, let's go daily. For sure.
24:52Speaker 1If we're talking about just kind of maintenance in your whole and systemic,
24:57Speaker 1we want lower inflammation,
24:59Speaker 1everything to, yeah,
25:01Speaker 1feel better, recover a little bit faster, then then 3 days a week is okay on a maintenance regimen. That's what I'm doing. For sure.
25:07Speaker 1But
25:08Speaker 1and and, again, and I do sub q for the maintenance regimen. Acute injury, I'm putting it right in the spot.
25:16Speaker 0Mic drop. Yep. Mic drop. That's it. If you have not tried it, there you go. It will help with injuries, no doubt. If you're about to have a surgery, I would suggest that you take it 3 weeks up to the surgery,
25:26Speaker 0get
25:27Speaker 0those stem cells working. If you're going to do the blend TB, know, I'm adding in the TB for that, but tissue repair, add up to the surgery. After the surgery,
25:36Speaker 0how much do you take?
25:37Speaker 0I would take a lot if you can afford it. I would take a lot if you can afford it. If you can't afford it, still take some. BPC is gonna expedite you healing,
25:44Speaker 0I promise you. It's just a freaking
25:47Speaker 1it's amazing. It is amazing. Now with the and now there is 20 mg, just BPC alone,
25:52Speaker 130 mg plus 30 mg
25:55Speaker 1Wolverine, which is Wolverine,
25:57Speaker 1everybody, is is BPC-one
25:59Speaker 1hundred 57 plus TB-five hundred, which is actually Thymosin beta-four. So make sure you're getting Thymosin beta-four.
26:05Speaker 1But everybody just calls it TB-five hundred. But
26:08Speaker 1that is what the Wolverine blend is. And I now see it at 30 mg, plus 30 mg. And then also,
26:15Speaker 1you there is available a just 20 mg BPC-
26:18Speaker 0Yep. Alone. Yep. K. Bada bom boom. So
26:22Speaker 0now let's
26:23Speaker 0let's get into
26:25Speaker 0the DSIP. Now for me, for someone like me, this has been amazing. This has been a lifesaver. So if you are listening to this and you are like me, I sleep like shit. I sleep like shit. I don't know why. I don't know if my brain's always firing. I mean, I'm always on my damn phone, so I'm assuming that has something to do with it. I need to be able to calm my head. The beauty of DSIP is the fact that even
26:46Speaker 0if you only sleep 4 to 5 hours like me, if I'm lucky,
26:50Speaker 0it'll at least help you get into the deep So tell us a little bit about it. Dig into that a little bit about the DSIP and kind of what it is, what like some of the beauties of it. So yes, we'll do that, and then we'll just tell you why sleep is good.
27:02Speaker 1What's going on? We want to talk about fitness. Like, sleep is 1 of the most damn important things. I mean, the holy trinity is like is exercise, nutrition, sleep. Hell yeah. Okay? Those all need to be happening for you to make progress. Right. K? Sleep is super important.
27:18Speaker 1Okay. So DSIP,
27:19Speaker 1Delta sleep delta sleep inducing So
27:23Speaker 1it is not just a, like,
27:26Speaker 1on off switch to sleep. Right? It's not like, oh, cool. I'm gonna take this and then whack, I'm gonna die. Meaning, it doesn't make you tired at all. Drooling on myself. It doesn't really make you tired. No. It does not make you yawn tired. Yeah. So it's not like a sedative or it's not like something that you're taking to actually or melatonin that's gonna actually make you get tired. Right. It's just when you sleep, you sleep well. You sleep well. And it but it does help you get into the mood for sleeping. Yeah. So we basically
27:54Speaker 1it's interesting.
27:55Speaker 1It's less of just an on off switch and more of it hits
27:59Speaker 1on several different kind of receptor sites.
28:02Speaker 1And
28:03Speaker 1essentially,
28:04Speaker 1all of those receptor sites all contribute to
28:07Speaker 1helping your brain and body be less excitable.
28:11Speaker 1And so we all just kind of calm down. So like, number 1, yes, while you're sleeping, okay, it is going to improve
28:18Speaker 1that delta wave sleep, which we have studied and when we know that that is the deep sleep. That's the actual restful recovery sleep. Yeah. So those of you who don't sleep enough, hey, at least you'll be in that deep sleep, and you'll get the the recovery sleep. Huge. Staying on the fringes of that and maybe sleep 4 or 5 hours, but don't really get anything from that. Yeah. So increasing the delta wave sleep, yes, cool. That's kind of in the that's in the name. We know that. 2,
28:44Speaker 1the neurotransmitter
28:45Speaker 1modulation. So it is going to increase your GABA,
28:49Speaker 1which is a in your brain, that's what helps you calm down. That's 1 of the neurotransmitters that helps you calm down. And then what's it? NMDA
28:59Speaker 1DA and glutamate.
29:01Speaker 1Those both are the opposite. Those things keep you excitable, and it basically puts the brakes on those. It inhibits those guys.
29:08Speaker 1So it's basically making your brain just wind down, kinda like how you feel
29:13Speaker 1after you've read 10 pages of a book. Yeah. That's what I that's my sleeping pill. Yep. Yep. Sure you use Right?
29:20Speaker 1Just calms you down. So brain so there, it also then
29:24Speaker 1reduces cortisol levels. Hell yeah. That's huge. And cortisol
29:28Speaker 1is kind of like the worst thing that we can think of for being in shape. Also, when your when your cortisol levels are elevated, you have more energy. You're more excitable. The whole point of cortisol is our fight or flight.
29:41Speaker 1That's our fight or flight hormone. Yeah. So
29:44Speaker 1our body still thinks that we are cavemen.
29:47Speaker 1And
29:48Speaker 1when we are trapped in any stressful situation,
29:51Speaker 1right, our cortisol hormone is going off. Oh. It is designed to give us
29:55Speaker 1quick energy.
29:57Speaker 1So it basically when your cortisol hormone's going off, so anytime that you're stressed,
30:01Speaker 1frankly, or low on sleep, right, you get 3 3 hours of sleep. Guess what? All day long, your body's in a stressed state. Yep. K?
30:07Speaker 1When you drink alcohol, gets poisoned. As soon as you start drinking alcohol to the time it's burnt off, which is tomorrow afternoon,
30:13Speaker 1your body's in a stress state. Your cortisol hormone's going off. And what that is doing is it is breaking down your muscle and converting that into sugar and filling your blood with sugar, okay, increasing your blood sugar so which you so now you have some energy, some quick energy to, you know, fight off a bear in a cave because, again, it thinks we're cavemen, we need this quick energy. And that energy that you do not burn off, then it gets to, great. Let's store that as fat, K? Because I need it because I'm stressed out, and I can't I I don't wanna die of of
30:45Speaker 1starvation and or
30:48Speaker 1Right. Temperature. Right? I don't wanna freeze to death. So all of those bad things are happening when your cortisol levels are going on.
30:54Speaker 1Why we build when in folks, we build most of our muscle when we are asleep. The majority of PT meds. We can talk about that in a 2nd. But so it's gonna reduce your cortisol levels. It is think of DSIP as
31:06Speaker 1it's really just more of like a it's regulator. It's regulating all of these things. So it so it helps bring your cortisol levels down to normal normal levels.
31:14Speaker 1It will increase your
31:16Speaker 1melatonin,
31:17Speaker 1like you so you should say Melanotan.
31:19Speaker 1Melatonin
31:20Speaker 1levels a little bit. Okay? Not like a pure melatonin pill that really I don't know. That stuff works on me. I I I go to sleep fast. Melatonin? Yeah. Yeah. It's great. But too much. I sleep a little bit. Yeah. But it will increase your melatonin to kind of correct sleep levels. It will it will boost your circadian rhythm. So that's when when our body goes,
31:40Speaker 1hey. Look. It's dark outside. It might be time for me to start winding down. Right?
31:46Speaker 1And in today's society, we don't really care about that. We have electricity and things to do, so that doesn't really affect most of us, but it is good to get back to that natural circadian
31:55Speaker 1rhythm. Right? And and frankly, it reduces pain a little bit. So a lot of people are not sleeping because of kind of minor pain, little little nerve nerve pains, and reducing that
32:07Speaker 1pain a little bit is gonna help you actually get some good restful sleep. So all of those things in
32:13Speaker 1coming together in conjunction
32:16Speaker 1help you get
32:18Speaker 1into the sleep mode to sleep better,
32:20Speaker 1recover better, and, yeah, get good, restful sleep.
32:24Speaker 0Huge, man. I think in today's
32:26Speaker 0world with the amount of stress everybody's under,
32:29Speaker 0driving in traffic,
32:31Speaker 0mindlessly scrolling.
32:32Speaker 0I'm not judging because I do that at night. I usually wind down about 08:00 upstairs and I mindlessly scroll and
32:38Speaker 0our brains are just all
32:41Speaker 0the time. So this is going help with that.
32:43Speaker 0What is it? The hypothalamus where it's going to regulate that, which is like the brain's control center that tells you to sleep or tells you to stay awake. It's like the control center with all that. It helps regulate that. So I think that us as humans with so much going on in today's world, those things are just out of whack or shaken. 1 of the things
33:02Speaker 0I
33:03Speaker 0plan on doing in 2026
33:05Speaker 0is
33:06Speaker 0I wait when I wake up, I don't look at my phone for an hour. I am extremely disciplined about it, but I don't do that at night. So now what I wanna do is put my damn phone down at 08:00. I'm gonna go put it on the charger, buy my bed, and then 1, be more present with my kids. Yeah. Right? And let my brain start to just,
33:24Speaker 0I think that's a big problem is just as my MC scroll. Like, scrolling about shit, we don't care nothing about, but we're just like this, dude. It's like zombies.
33:32Speaker 1That stuff is just not how we were supposed to be, TB- Not at all. Now luckily, I, like, do not have that problem because I don't view social media. It just does not interest me. And I guess I would if I have done that, I'll feel endlessly guilty of like, oh my god. Just waste time.
33:45Speaker 1There's an hour of my life I'll never get back on. Absolutely no for no reason.
33:50Speaker 1But that my but, like, we know this, dude. Like, little kids, right, don't put them in front of a TV screen. Right? They see all these flashing images. Right? And it just makes their attention deficit Yep. Disorder
34:01Speaker 1go through the root because they're used to, like, whoops, stimulation. Need it. Need it. Need it. Need it. I have been very good at just and mostly because I enjoy it. I'm usually really good at things I enjoy.
34:13Speaker 1I I read every night. That helps. I
34:15Speaker 1Absolutely. I read every single night, and that is what
34:19Speaker 0puts me to sleep. I've gone through stages where I
34:21Speaker 0either, like, read a whole lot, that's all I do, and then I don't read for a long time. I don't know why that is, but I go through stages, but I will start enforcing that stuff because I know so little kind of a side note here is for a very long time, I wasn't on social media. I wasn't on it for a long time. I think when my Jax was born, I got back on it because I wanted to post a picture of my son, blah, blah, blah. And now
34:41Speaker 0for what I do for a living, like, I'm on my social media all freaking day. And what I have noticed
34:47Speaker 0with a lot of deep thinking about this is I have a hard freaking time
34:51Speaker 0shutting my brain down. I was on vacation with my kids. Now, there was freaking chaos. They're screaming and yelling, and that part is what it is. But I had the hardest damn time of just freaking relaxing
35:01Speaker 0and being present. When I got home, I felt a little guilty because I'm like,
35:04Speaker 0I'm just always freaking
35:06Speaker 1it's addictive. Yep. So I'm trying I'm trying to break some of that habit. So you said we'll do it. It's like and it's crazy. I mean, based on that profile, you know,
35:13Speaker 1take it an hour before you go to sleep. Take take it 2 hours before you go to sleep. Mhmm. Because it's not gonna just ruin your night. Yeah. It's not gonna just make you fall I've never felt tired from it. Like, you don't feel like, oh, I'm okay. Be like, calm down. But I agree. I mean, the phone that stimulation,
35:29Speaker 1no. And I need a wind down time, regardless if it's I don't know, even without the phone, I just need some time. Yeah. I can't go from busy, busy, busy looking on my phone, doing a bunch of stuff to, like,
35:40Speaker 1out. Right. Although, if you ask my girl, I mean, I'm pretty good at giving me 5 minutes sitting up straight, and I'll fall asleep. Too done. Yeah. Too What? Done. For
35:49Speaker 1the most part, when it's it's like bedtime and wind down, yeah,
35:53Speaker 1this this stuff is awesome, and it'll basically get you in the mood for sleep.
35:58Speaker 1And what does sleep do? Why do we wanna sleep?
36:01Speaker 0What are some things Very, very,
36:03Speaker 0important. Growth hormone spurts.
36:05Speaker 0Yep. Woo. Those are great.
36:07Speaker 0Right?
36:08Speaker 0Resetting your nervous system. Huge
36:12Speaker 0tissue repair,
36:13Speaker 0growth. I mean, if you want to get big, you want to get ripped, you need to sleep. You have to sleep. You won't get ripped, and you won't if you need to sleep, people think that you get big when you're at the gym. You don't you're not growing at the gym. No. You're growing asleep. You're growing asleep. So basically, like People think that, though. When you're in the
36:29Speaker 1gym, you are breaking muscle down. Right? You are tearing your muscles. K? We're causing thousands of small little micro tears in our muscles.
36:37Speaker 1Then you
36:38Speaker 1eat protein. The protein is the building blocks of muscle. That's the only way. That's the building materials. If you wanna build a log cabin, you need the logs.
36:47Speaker 1And then those building materials and all of your workers, really sorry, guys, but, like, they just go to work at night when you're sleeping. Great. That's it.
36:56Speaker 1There's very little muscle growth going on during the day of a normal unenhanced
37:02Speaker 1person.
37:03Speaker 1That is when I say enhance, if you start taking testosterone at a decent amount and any other steroids,
37:09Speaker 1game changer. K? Then sleep is not that that important,
37:13Speaker 1although still for your mental health it is,
37:16Speaker 1but you'll still grow muscle and burn fat all day. But
37:19Speaker 1without that, a normal- Well, tell them why, though, because that you were we were talking about that earlier. It says shut off the cortisol. You know, I guess here's what bugs me is I've seen in the past big these giant, like, professional bodybuilders go on social media and just and tell everybody, like, how
37:33Speaker 1amazing their their work ethic is and because then they and they only sleep, like, 2 hours a night because they're grinding, and you look at them, they're 3 50 pounds of muscle. And that gives people the wrong idea that,
37:43Speaker 1oh, shit, I don't need to sleep. I just need to lift
37:46Speaker 1all day, every day, and for 4 hours. Like, for a normal person, that's not realistic. They are taking steroids. Okay? And no knock on them. Cool. I like steroids. Might be the trend. Yeah.
37:58Speaker 1But it might be the trend. But but you
38:01Speaker 1basically, when you're taking testosterone,
38:03Speaker 1it really just basically shuts down your cortisol hormone. Okay? So your body then so during the day, normally, we go through these stressful times. Our cortisol hormone's going off. We don't grow any muscle, nor do we burn fat. So it
38:16Speaker 1is testosterone and steroids. Just shut that all down. So now our body grows
38:20Speaker 120 fourseven.
38:22Speaker 1All right? Yep. So by instead of for 8 hours or 6 hours or 4 hours, 20 fourseven muscles just grow back. That is why you see massive gains when you're
38:34Speaker 0taking steroids and or high levels of testosterone.
38:37Speaker 1So then if you're not on on you're not juicing people, you need sleep. You need sleep. If you're not juicing, you have to have sleep. Is It 1 of the most important things that there possibly is. You cannot grow muscle, and you will burn a lot of fat. If your metabolism is good and you're doing all the right things, you'd be very surprised that you burn a lot how much fat you burn in the middle of the night. Oh, yeah. If you sweat in the middle of night and it's not hot, like, good for you. Your metabolism's hot. Or you sweat doing doing doing training in the middle of the night. Right? Because your metabolism is going through the roof. Yeah.
39:07Speaker 0It's like it's so shredded on it. Just I've done trim before. It's been years. I mean, that's just brutal, but like years and years and years ago, and I remember like, I was just like, you are so freaking hot all the time. Yeah.
39:17Speaker 0You're like a fireball. Well, yeah. Yeah.
39:21Speaker 0It sucks. It does suck. Yeah. It sucks. Horrible.
39:24Speaker 1But sleep is just really, really important,
39:27Speaker 1folks.
39:29Speaker 1Long term, I guess we did not say is, hey. You live life. You learn all these new things, and it's in your short term memory. When we go to sleep, if you sleep correctly and get into your good
39:39Speaker 1delta wave restful sleep, that is when all that short term memory
39:43Speaker 1gets backed up like a computer into your long term
39:47Speaker 1storage. Have long term memory, and now you actually retain that instead of tomorrow forgetting.
39:52Speaker 0So
39:53Speaker 1if you're feeling dumb tomorrow,
39:55Speaker 1you probably didn't sleep enough.
39:57Speaker 0Well, I'm not forgetting everything. Yeah.
39:59Speaker 0So those 2 go hand in hand, man. We told we told you we would tie them together. You need to sleep. You need to recover. You need to heal. You need to do that when you sleep. You want to grow, you need to do that when you sleep. So those 2 are great for anybody that has not tried DSIP and you sleep like shit. I'm just going to say it again. It has been amazing for me. I get like 5 hours of sleep. I would love to get more, but it kind of is what it is. But when I do take it, I do feel more rested,
40:24Speaker 1and that works. Yep. Works for me. I'm gonna start doing experimenting on my days off, like taking it during the day.
40:35Speaker 0To
40:37Speaker 0help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
40:45Speaker 0See if it calms down? See if it just kind of yeah. See what see what see if it, yeah, calms me down and maybe makes me
40:52Speaker 1there are times where I'm like, just too much is going on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I just can't focus. Or or I guess my problem is I try to do the 30 things at once. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then just never get anything Little bits.
41:06Speaker 1And it's not the effective way. So I guess my what part of my New Year's resolutions is like
41:11Speaker 1Focus on 1 thing. Focus on 1 thing. Apparently, this is what Steve Jobs would do. Yeah. And I guess you gotta learn from brilliant, successful people. Promose he does that? He would just go, I'll just no. But the problem is I mean, but I can't make an excuse because Steve Jobs had some other people depending on him too. Right, and asking him things. But I guess somehow he just said, nope, not now. No.
41:32Speaker 1Go away. I'm just finishing just 1 test 1st. Now you can get hit me. But sometimes it feels like I just can't do that when I have 15 people who need something time sensitive right now.
41:43Speaker 0It's rough. But
41:44Speaker 0Yeah. Prioritize delegates. Shut the door, lock the door. For most, he talks about, like, turning it super dark. He puts his headphones on, and when he needs to focus, he focus. That's that's muscle. I mean, it's not easy to do that.
42:37Speaker 0I will be working out till I die. I'll be
42:40Speaker 185 doing those 2 pound weights, but I will be in the gym. Yeah, and those of you who know like, Hey, we may look good.
42:48Speaker 1Oh, man, like, 1st look so healthy and brisked up, but, like, there is there is a price.
42:54Speaker 1You ask anybody who is
42:57Speaker 1who is lean and has a good amount of muscle, they're hurting.
43:01Speaker 1Hell yeah. That's the price you pay.
43:04Speaker 0Thank God for BPC, baby. Yep. Good stuff. Cool, man. Anything else before we take off? Oh, I got nothing. Alright, everybody. I hope you enjoyed this episode.
43:13Speaker 01st 1 of the year. Catch you on the Rock Sound. Later.