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1:09Speaker 0Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Like always across the way, mister William T. Haws in the house. Present. Fresh back from our trip, tired.
1:23Speaker 0Yeah.
1:24Speaker 0But we're here, baby.
1:26Speaker 0We made it. I asked Will last night. We, got there late the 1st night,
1:31Speaker 0had 1 night, 2nd night, didn't get much sleep, worked all day yesterday.
1:35Speaker 0And I felt pretty good when I was working actually. Surprised by that. Was off shit. So overtired and fell right asleep, but then like kind of woke up in the middle of the night. I mean, I slept all the way through the night, but I woke up not wanting to get up.
1:49Speaker 0I still am tired. Can you just sleep if like you're like you don't hit an alarm? Can you sleep until what time?
1:55Speaker 2You know, it's so weird. It really depends. Like sometimes, I don't know, man. Think that if I know I get up, yeah, till 9. 0 wow. Till 9. But
2:04Speaker 2someday if I know I need to get up and I don't set an alarm, I'll probably get up right when I'm supposed to get up. Yeah. But I don't trust it completely.
2:12Speaker 2I'll just have to get up at, you know, 04:30 in the morning. I'm be setting alarm,
2:16Speaker 2but probably at 9AM is about as late as possible. Yeah, for sure. But I go to bed at,
2:22Speaker 2I mean, it depends on what I probably average you in bed at, like, last night I would bed 11PM and that's pretty early. That's early. Yeah. I don't think that's- I don't think I've ever fell asleep in the last 2 years before 11PM. Oh, wow. I actually fell asleep.
2:35Speaker 0Yeah. You know, but laugh about it because like it's changed
2:39Speaker 0quite a bit lately, like we used to be, used to get up like 02:30 and 3 because I was having sleeping problems and I'd get like, I'd see he had just sent me like a DM or something.
2:48Speaker 0Was like, man, he's still up. It's crazy. Different time zones, work,
2:54Speaker 0whatever.
2:55Speaker 0But yeah, we got back from the trip. Was great. We flew out and checked out 1 of our suppliers,
3:00Speaker 0had some time to kind of talk through business.
3:03Speaker 0God worked his hands through a little
3:08Speaker 0company has had these little, we call God shots are
3:12Speaker 0signs pointing the direction of where we should go, like literally since its inception, right? Mean, literally like countless. And
3:19Speaker 0as we were flying back, we were talking about something in particular
3:22Speaker 0and then we kept talking about it. So we sat on the plane and it was funny because I, we were in the front row and my seat was like empty the whole time. I'm like, dude, come on baby. And
3:33Speaker 0then he comes, this guy comes right at the very end, like big burly dude covered in tattoos,
3:39Speaker 0looked like an ex Marine or something. But anyways, he and I were talking and then
3:43Speaker 0I finally said, what do you do? And he told me what he did, which correlated exactly what we needed,
3:49Speaker 0which is hard to find of a particular job. And I
3:53Speaker 0look over at Will, but he was in his zone with his headphones in. So as soon as we landed, I looked over, I said, Hey, Will,
4:00Speaker 0ask this guy what he does. Yeah. And he's like, Holy moly. So anyways, the point of that is
4:05Speaker 0that's little God shots, man. This is what you should do. Just point in the way. We've followed a lot of them, but it's pretty cool. But we got
4:13Speaker 0father's day coming up as we speak. We're sitting in the podcast room recording, which is Friday before father's day. And we had opened up our warehouse to
4:22Speaker 0locals to come in and just,
4:24Speaker 0you know, meet some of them. A lot of people love the podcast and kind of what we do and to kind of see the team and just to get people in and talk to them and give them some, some, you know, some of the things that we shirts and stuff that we want to give them away free. It's been great. We've been talking to people. We can hear them outside talking right now. So it's, that's been kind of cool experience.
4:45Speaker 0You know what I mean? Yep. You guys got anything going on for for Father's Day? We'll go over to Allie's dad's house and barbecue with him. That's what he wants.
4:54Speaker 2So, yeah,
4:55Speaker 2he lives on Tahrirs Creek Golf Course.
4:58Speaker 2It's kind of cool. Like his backyard is the golf course. Nice. And he's got 1 of them big old Traeger, like smoker grills.
5:04Speaker 0So he's gonna do that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty good. He's a good cook. He's a good cook with meat, but, that's
5:10Speaker 2about it. My father is in Seattle and 3 I'll call him and
5:16Speaker 2send him a card, but nothing more
5:18Speaker 0than
5:20Speaker 0We, as we were, it's funny, we, as we go, like I have a 5 and a 2 year old and, they're both boys, all boys. And,
5:28Speaker 0I say it often, but you know, I'm not built for screaming and just high pitched sounds. It just shakes me to the core and like I rain man and I just am not built for it. My wife does well with that stuff. But so oftentimes when I'm home and they're screaming and screaming, I'm like, dude, I need to just need a little bit of a break. So as we were flying out of town,
5:49Speaker 0was like looking forward to having that day of just, you know, just having a break. But as I'm flying, I'm looking through pictures and I'm like, dude, I miss my little chunky baby. I just started missing my kids. It's a catch 22 dude is the point. But, so anyways, I missed the hell of them last night.
6:06Speaker 0Still needed to get some work done and I'm on my chair doing some work on my phone. I'm not
6:12Speaker 0a mindless scroller by any means. I don't like mindlessly scroll, but I'm working on my phone and I put my phone down. I was looking at my kids just sitting on the couch
6:21Speaker 0I just started wrestling with them, dude, and like throwing them and it just lights up their freaking world. And,
6:27Speaker 0I was so lit up by that. I was looking at it in the morning and just, dude, it's just like, gosh, these are so magical times
6:35Speaker 0and the world wants to pull us off of that
6:39Speaker 0happiness,
6:40Speaker 0joy, contentment, you know, it doesn't matter the why, it just does. And if we don't work on
6:46Speaker 0staying in that lane of like,
6:49Speaker 0you know, putting the damn phone down, even just putting work down.
6:53Speaker 0Yeah. You know, and going home and spending time with your family,
6:57Speaker 0you get engulfed with it. You know what I mean? And like, it was just more smack in the face of DJs. Those are magical 1 moments. I'm not going be here for The
7:06Speaker 2thing when I got home yesterday, I got home and river is laying there playing video games and I said, all right, dude, get up. I'm loading up your backpack. So we loaded a backpack of baseball bats and wiffle balls,
7:17Speaker 2got on a bice bikes and,
7:19Speaker 2drove to the little league field
7:22Speaker 2and played a game of just like him and I against wiffle ball base. It was really just me trying to like pitch to him and hit. And then, you know, these kids can play, you know, set up bases
7:32Speaker 2and then
7:33Speaker 2you can just be a pitcher, hitter,
7:36Speaker 2throw out well, I forget what they call it. Like, if you if their runners running to 1st, but then I can feel the ball and throw it just in his path anywhere,
7:43Speaker 2then he's out. Yeah. But, so he and I went and played there and played that and tried to get him some hitting lessons. Right. He's not really good at,
7:51Speaker 2like, being serious.
7:53Speaker 2I'm like, look, if we're gonna play baseball, we're like working on skills. Yeah. This is not fun time. Okay? This is practice.
8:00Speaker 2But I end up being
8:02Speaker 2being loose on that and just having fun.
8:05Speaker 0That's, dude, that was fun. It was so
8:09Speaker 0priceless. My wife, I probably have said this before in here, I can't remember, but, Jack's had
8:14Speaker 0had a
8:16Speaker 0some type of a,
8:17Speaker 0he doesn't have homework. He's too young, but they were going to do a creative business. And
8:22Speaker 0dude, he just would get to create a warrior maker literally. That's what he did. And like Alyssa filmed it for me. I was just like, and the point of that is like, our kids just watch their father. They
8:34Speaker 0just
8:35Speaker 0watch
8:36Speaker 0their father. Talk about it on my other podcasts and it's been something that's been really heavy on me in the last few months of just really getting men to kind of pick that
8:48Speaker 0back up and change the future by our sons in particular because they're going be running their families and,
8:55Speaker 0know, setting the example of
8:58Speaker 0strong
8:59Speaker 0men of integrity.
9:02Speaker 0And the reason I say that it's on this podcast is like, look around you, man. I was at, I was at Legoland with my family the other weekend and 70%
9:11Speaker 0of the people are overweight, like greatly overweight.
9:15Speaker 0It's to change that.
9:18Speaker 2Going watch that. That's the big thing. It's like, absolutely.
9:21Speaker 0Because I did a post on it and I wasn't knocking anybody because I think, listen,
9:26Speaker 0the chips are stacked against us. And what I mean by that is there was not 1 single
9:32Speaker 0healthy
9:33Speaker 0option
9:34Speaker 0at any place to get food. Fried food. I mean, burgers, I mean, you can get by, but like, how about some chicken grilled chicken? Nothing like that. You know what I mean? And it's like,
9:45Speaker 0but
9:46Speaker 0our kids are watching us.
9:48Speaker 0That will become what they see like that with river
9:52Speaker 0going out and play ball with him.
9:54Speaker 2Yeah. The world, it means the world. Is necessary. I love that was my favorite thing to do as a kid. Right? Not,
10:00Speaker 2not video games, but yeah, just to play catch, but absolutely
10:03Speaker 2they're watching.
10:05Speaker 2Whatever we do, they're going to try to emulate good or bad.
10:10Speaker 0So change the change the tides, fellas.
10:13Speaker 0But yeah, today
10:15Speaker 0it is not the Q and A today's the pip tide of the weekend for the last couple. We've changed it up a little bit, which we continue.
10:22Speaker 0We're going to have, we're going to have Trevor
10:25Speaker 0Kruder on next week, who is basically the godfather of peptides, man. He started a peptide company long
10:32Speaker 0I time believe it's like over 10 years ago, which is holy moly. Like that's going be fun because I would love to hear his story, like how he had the insight or the foresight to like see what was coming. And that'll be next week.
10:45Speaker 0But this week,
10:46Speaker 0instead of breaking down 2, which we will often do and we will get back to,
10:51Speaker 0but we try to switch it up and we're going to talk about
10:55Speaker 0peptides for, to get in shape.
10:58Speaker 0Muscle builder. Muscle building peptides. Yeah. And what's cool about this is, we'll do it his way. I will do it my way.
11:06Speaker 0I already know about how you were doing it. I kind of took it as differently.
11:10Speaker 0So my route of getting to what we're going to break down is going be a little different. That's a bad point. We're very different and you guys are listening are different and
11:18Speaker 2it doesn't, it's not 1 shoe fits all. This is how you get in shape. Cause what I did was broke it down by how if I had somebody like a client or something, how I would get them in shape. Oh, okay. So we had completely opposite things. I was thinking just muscle building. Just But either way Muscle building, not body recomp, that doesn't matter because that involves fat burning. Yeah. Just muscle building. Yeah. So that's cool. The point is though, who cares? Like our lists aren't being judged and pulled against other people's lists in the world. This is not a competition. Right? The whole point of this is to
11:46Speaker 2stimulate like conversation and information for everybody to
11:52Speaker 0learn more on. Yeah, put yours together. What would be your stack? Your friend said,
11:57Speaker 0Tiffany,
11:58Speaker 0how do I get into shape with peptides?
12:00Speaker 2What would you write down? That's what we did. Well, that's not what we did actually. That's what you did. To build muscle. Mine was to build muscle, not to get in shape because like Retta, that'd the 1st thing I would say for somebody to get on in shape. Right. Muscle. How do you put on muscle?
12:15Speaker 0With peptides, which are not- Yeah,
12:18Speaker 2it's just
12:19Speaker 2the single peptides to build
12:22Speaker 2muscle.
12:24Speaker 2These are the top
12:25Speaker 25 that I chose. In order for you? In order. So the 1st 1 is IGF-1L-3.
12:32Speaker 2And
12:33Speaker 2people say, about growth hormone? Yeah, that's on the list, but this is better than the actual HGH,
12:38Speaker 2right? You take HGH and it
12:41Speaker 2with the goal of it converting
12:43Speaker 2into IGF-one
12:45Speaker 2and that is what builds muscle. So this is like the downstream
12:50Speaker 2effect of HGH and just the growth
12:53Speaker 2portion of it. So this peptide
12:56Speaker 2is the, I guess, yeah, number 1 muscle builder,
13:01Speaker 2LR3.
13:02Speaker 2It's usually a really fast ester. It's not really an ester, but the 0.5 life is real fast. So adding on the LR3 makes it last a bit longer and therefore work a bit better in growing. Yeah. Don't want IGF-one, I would, you know, 8 weeks or so maximum,
13:17Speaker 2and then it's onto something new. Are you going to recommend before or after you lift? Either way. I mean, so it is a lot about nutrient partitioning. And so I would say if you want muscle building,
13:27Speaker 2post workout. So in post workout, inject it and then eat your protein and a little bit of carbs. That
13:34Speaker 2will be the best because post workout is when your muscles really are just sponges, right? They just want to soak up all the building materials,
13:41Speaker 2and you're enhancing that. And now every little bit of protein that you eat
13:44Speaker 2is just gonna soak go right into the muscles where you asked it to. Yeah. For
13:49Speaker 2a real big pump pre workout.
13:53Speaker 2The next is
13:54Speaker 2HGH,
13:55Speaker 2which is the peptide. Right?
13:57Speaker 2It's a 191 amino acid peptide as long as you get without making a protein.
14:04Speaker 2And,
14:05Speaker 2but it is not, it's not as effective
14:09Speaker 2as just pure IGF-one.
14:11Speaker 2It
14:12Speaker 2will help build
14:14Speaker 2and grow muscle as you see IGF-one upregulation. Right? The goal here is how you build muscle is by increasing the IGF-one. It does that. It also is going to help burn fat
14:25Speaker 2and do a whole bunch of everything else, right? Grow tissue everywhere. Your hair will grow faster. Your nails will grow longer,
14:31Speaker 2etcetera.
14:32Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, he faces Alright, PEG- MGF. Not many people know about this and it's small, it's a
14:39Speaker 2it's a quick actor, but it needs to be used actually like local.
14:43Speaker 2So you really should best best best way to do this is to inject in the muscle that you worked out
14:49Speaker 2post workout.
14:52Speaker 2It is it's almost kind of think of it as almost like a local
14:55Speaker 2IGF-one.
14:56Speaker 2People think you can inject IGF-one locally. Well, you can't. You do it the hell you want. It won't really
15:02Speaker 2work to build that muscle maybe for a couple of seconds, but then it disperses systemically
15:07Speaker 2for damn fast.
15:09Speaker 2So,
15:13Speaker 2again, GF add on just post
15:15Speaker 2workout
15:16Speaker 2in the muscle that was worked out.
15:20Speaker 2I was not talking about that. Then we have the secretagogue.
15:23Speaker 2So basically, if you've noted folks like this whole thing is all about
15:27Speaker 2peptides.
15:29Speaker 2Well, maybe I'll recap that. But the next 1, Tesamorelin plus Ipamorelin. It's a blend. This is 2 peptides,
15:36Speaker 2but
15:36Speaker 2oftentimes
15:38Speaker 2sold together as a blend, and I think that they should be used that way. Right? Tesamorelin
15:43Speaker 2is going to increase your pituitary to make more HGH,
15:47Speaker 2more natural human growth hormone, whereas Ipamorelin is going to help amplify those pulses.
15:53Speaker 2Tesamorelin also is FDA approved to actually like burn this belly fat and
16:01Speaker 0Ultra running shoes are all about space.
16:04Speaker 0The space to go further, to feel better, to do something you never thought possible.
16:09Speaker 0And this space starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, so every step is strong, balanced,
16:19Speaker 0and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com.
16:26Speaker 0That's altrarunning.com.
16:30Speaker 1This is US Bank's Cozy Cashformations
16:33Speaker 1with your chief financial playmaker,
16:35Speaker 1Fernando Mendoza.
16:37Speaker 0You are worthy of financial security.
16:40Speaker 0Budgeting is not restriction,
16:42Speaker 0it's freedom.
16:44Speaker 0You are smart.
16:45Speaker 0You are capable.
16:47Speaker 0You are giving your money a purpose.
16:50Speaker 0You are learning the language of saving,
16:54Speaker 0of growing,
16:56Speaker 0now streaming.
16:58Speaker 2Member FDIC copyright 2026 US Bank. Visceral fat, which is the fat around your organs and that's the real bad stuff.
17:04Speaker 2So, know, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin is very
17:08Speaker 2similar to CJC and Ipamorelin. If
17:12Speaker 2you read 10 articles, you're going to get about 6 or 7 that say, Tessa is better than CJC. And you're going to get, you know, 4 or 5 to say CJC is better. I would say in my opinion, CJC is a little bit more popular. Yeah.
17:27Speaker 2But yes,
17:29Speaker 2it is. And both of them, like, I don't know. I almost,
17:32Speaker 2so this it's a toss-up, I think that I'd put Tesamorelin a little bit before because
17:37Speaker 2it does some other things, even though that's not really what
17:41Speaker 2this list was for. Right? I was trying to disregard anything else that factors into it, except for it's just pure ability to build muscle.
17:51Speaker 2Ipamorelin
17:53Speaker 2is similar to MK-six 77 which is a
17:56Speaker 2secretagogue
17:57Speaker 2but it works by increasing your ghrelin receptors which also makes you hungry.
18:02Speaker 2But Ipamorelin isn't as strong as MK. It still keeps the pulses, pulses, whereas MK just like floods you with growth And all the
18:13Speaker 2yeah, so again, so CJC really guys, like all that we're doing here is replacing the Tesamorelin with the CJC-1295.
18:20Speaker 2No DAC.
18:21Speaker 2Drug affinity
18:22Speaker 2complex is what DAC stands for, and this makes it
18:27Speaker 2so
18:28Speaker 2the no DAC means it makes it be a faster
18:32Speaker 2version, faster release of HGH, just like our body
18:36Speaker 2produces HGH. It produces it produces it in small pulses throughout the day.
18:41Speaker 2If you had DAC in there, it would just
18:44Speaker 2release all the time. And frankly, it'd probably be actually a bit better for muscle building without, I mean, with the DAC,
18:52Speaker 2but not
18:53Speaker 2nearly as safe and good for you and natural.
18:57Speaker 2Alright? Then that's 5, folks. 1, 2, 34, 5. Now my the honorable mentions is
19:03Speaker 2we're with Follistatin.
19:05Speaker 2So
19:06Speaker 2if you guys have ever seen the
19:09Speaker 2Belgian blue
19:10Speaker 2bulls, if not Google those things and you'll see a bull just overwhelmed with muscle and lean ripped and you will obviously get like, well, that farmer just injected him with so much steroids over the years and like, not actually, that's not the case. They have like a genetic mutation
19:26Speaker 2that,
19:28Speaker 2stops myostatin.
19:30Speaker 2Myostatin
19:31Speaker 2is basically the brake on muscle building. Okay, so we all our body has this. It releases a break on muscle building so we don't just get
19:40Speaker 2sluggish and just super ripped and lean.
19:43Speaker 2Follistatin
19:44Speaker 2is
19:46Speaker 2stopping the myostatin.
19:48Speaker 2It's in myostatin. It inhibits myostatin.
19:50Speaker 2So the problem with follistatin 3 44 it's out there. It's a really long complex peptide.
19:56Speaker 2It hurts most people as injecting like swelling and pain
20:00Speaker 2post injection.
20:02Speaker 2It also
20:03Speaker 2the funny thing is it kind of indiscriminately tells your body to grow. So you may want your muscles to grow, but it might just grow
20:12Speaker 2your 1 calf really big. You know?
20:15Speaker 2They are made, I know, like, like, flagger 2 42 is a modified version of this. It's super expensive.
20:22Speaker 2It's a modified version of this to actually grow evenly in your body. The other thing is
20:29Speaker 2it's really polystatin 3 44 is really theoretical. So in animal models,
20:36Speaker 2the results have come back amazing.
20:38Speaker 2And
20:40Speaker 2this is a generalization,
20:41Speaker 2but a lot of these peptides,
20:43Speaker 2we test them on animals. Great. They were good. We test them on humans and damn
20:48Speaker 2that works about the same. Maybe there's a little bit, a little bit less good, but right. There's an easy correlation in Follistatin's
20:54Speaker 2tests works amazing in animals. Then they did it to humans. They go, why isn't it really like, what are we doing wrong? Why isn't it actually working as well? So
21:03Speaker 2the Follistatin 3 44 is still
21:06Speaker 2very theoretical.
21:08Speaker 0Okay. Some people rave about it. Yeah. Some people rave about it. The but
21:14Speaker 2maybe the flagger 2 42 version. It's the modified version. The
21:19Speaker 2last honorable mention is BPC and TB-500s.
21:22Speaker 2So they do not directly add you grow muscle, but anybody who is in the training program to lift weights a lot and to grow a lot of muscle,
21:31Speaker 2these 2 will do nothing but help you. I mean, they're going to help beef up your tendons and movements as they're just a must, dude. They're gonna help recruit a lot of the muscle builders and have your body able to absorb
21:42Speaker 2more nutrients,
21:43Speaker 2create more nutrients to act to help build muscle, build your tendons and stronger.
21:49Speaker 2And as we know, your body gets beat up if you lift more weights, things start to hurt. Right? Yeah. This will allow your body to go through all that stress, the stress that it takes to
21:59Speaker 2build all of this muscle.
22:01Speaker 2So those things should be just used, added into everything. They're great, like adjunct
22:07Speaker 2therapy,
22:08Speaker 2treatment therapies. So there's my list. I can go into maybe at the end we can tell you the
22:14Speaker 2dosing suggested dosing of what I think.
22:19Speaker 2We
22:20Speaker 2here's the main takeaway though. Here's my main takeaway.
22:23Speaker 2For growing muscle,
22:25Speaker 2for a grown man usually, right, like a lot of these are actually pretty damn good for women.
22:31Speaker 2There's not peptides is not doing
22:33Speaker 2just the R and D isn't there. They're just not that strong
22:37Speaker 2to really pack muscle on a grown man who's already got some muscle on. Yeah. So
22:42Speaker 2there's
22:43Speaker 2some really good ones, like everything I said for not muscle wasting, including
22:47Speaker 2Reta. Reta is actually really muscle protective, so you're like, well, because of the insulin pulses that is, that is pushing in you. Right? But
22:56Speaker 2yeah, if you're looking to build muscle,
22:59Speaker 2you're going to have a tough time doing it with just peptides alone. Yeah.
23:03Speaker 2At least yet. At least yet. Yeah. But the thing is the safety profile and all these things is really, really, really, really good. Like steroids work really well. Testosterone works really well at building muscle. Well, this is, it's affecting you hormonally and there's
23:19Speaker 2true side effects to those. Something that strong is going to have side effects. Hormones and amino acids for sure.
23:25Speaker 2So that's what I got. Hit me with yours. Yeah, so I did Now,
23:29Speaker 2here was my guess. Look at this. I made JD a slide to bring him in. Yeah.
23:35Speaker 2But he did it differently, but it'll at least leave his graphic up.
23:39Speaker 2And these are not his actual choices, folks. But you were guessing? This is my guess.
23:44Speaker 0And I kind of threw testosterone in there knowing that he would cheat on their boots. I did put it on the top. So we'll know if you will. We know you a long time. But like, so, and that's like, what's fun about it is like, I took it as if I had a client, like, what would I recommend on a peptide basis?
23:59Speaker 0Like if,
24:00Speaker 0you know, 1 of my old clients came in and they want me to help them get in shape from a peptide
24:04Speaker 0stance is what I did.
24:06Speaker 0No right or wrong, just in his, right? So yeah, testosterone
24:09Speaker 0is going to be the base just because
24:11Speaker 0you listen to the podcast, you know, even women, a lot of times lately in over the forties, just hormones are key.
24:20Speaker 0If you don't need testosterone and you're over 40, man, good on you. You're like the 1, it's just the way it is, the food and all that. But, so TRT, the base without a doubt, I know it's on a peptide, but it's still a must because
24:32Speaker 0I'm looking at this from a standpoint of dude comes in, here's what I'm going to recommend,
24:38Speaker 0right?
24:39Speaker 0HGH,
24:40Speaker 02IU, I never recommend going over that.
24:44Speaker 0You can, I just don't think that you need to and to use
24:48Speaker 0taking for a long enough period is going to really get you what you need? When you start going above is when you can start having the problems and you can get what you want with no problems. Just keep it there. You see bodybuilders and whatnot. They take a lot, but they run into problems, not necessarily from HGH,
25:05Speaker 0but compounded on top. Obviously better sleep.
25:09Speaker 0So
25:10Speaker 0you're going to notice that part right away. I think that's the 1 main thing you're going to get from
25:15Speaker 0the HGH immediately
25:16Speaker 0because it is a long play.
25:19Speaker 0It's not like any type of gear where you're going to notice that you get big. We'll think I said it last week where people think if you're like
25:26Speaker 0taking steroids, you're taking HGH and HGH makes you huge. It's like so opposite of what is even correctly. But why it shines is we grow when we sleep, right? We recover when we sleep. So that's why HGH is there. Recovery increased collagen production,
25:41Speaker 0increased fat
25:43Speaker 0burning. So even if like you or somebody that wants to get really big, you still want to drop fat
25:48Speaker 0right now. He's right. I think, let me see your ones that you put on there again.
25:55Speaker 0You see MK-677,
25:58Speaker 0did.
25:59Speaker 0It is not a peptide,
26:01Speaker 0but it's a non sec- peptide secreting close.
26:04Speaker 0It's pretty close. I would say most people are going to call it a damn peptide. Like any of these are a peptide, but like, let's just call it a peptide. It's easier to say, I mean, I know people lose their shit if we say stuff like that. They're like, come on. You know what I mean? Like we did know it's not a peptide.
26:17Speaker 0I like MK-677,
26:20Speaker 0because
26:21Speaker 0I believe personally with, I've used it countless times.
27:53Speaker 0Many calories, I think as other people, I would be a lot bigger.
27:56Speaker 0But I like to stay leaner.
27:57Speaker 0But Rich Piano would say, you want to get big? You got to eat big. You know what I mean? But MK-677
28:04Speaker 0helps you sleep,
28:06Speaker 0nutrient partitioning,
28:08Speaker 0boom. So now I threw in the 5m2 1MQ.
28:12Speaker 0The reason that I did that is it's going to, you know, help you keep the
28:16Speaker 0fat burning while you add in some carbs. And I'm going to tell you what I mean by that.
28:20Speaker 0Again, I looked at it from a different angle than Will was. I didn't want to put in a Retatrutide because we're trying to gain now
28:27Speaker 0for people to not confuse you. If you do run an MK-677
28:33Speaker 0and a Retatrutide,
28:34Speaker 0they can
28:36Speaker 0offset each other really well with experience and seeing a lot of people that I've requested. I told to do that because
28:43Speaker 0the MK-six and M7 is going make you hungry and this will tone that down. So if you have an eating problem and you want to get big and lean, those 2, I think pair really well. But I went with 5m2 1MQ because I did think that the Retta would be kind of cheating
28:56Speaker 0because this is going to help with like carbs help you stay in lean because I'm going to add some carbs in here momentarily.
29:02Speaker 0Now
29:03Speaker 0we'll set it. The
29:05Speaker 0Wolverine for anybody,
29:07Speaker 0anybody
29:08Speaker 0that wants to lift weights,
29:11Speaker 0geez, especially guys that are 40, but like anybody that wants to lift weights is going to need the Wolverine, which is TB-five 100 and BPC-157
29:19Speaker 0for
29:20Speaker 0injuries.
29:21Speaker 0You can't lift heavy shit without having injuries when you're 40.
29:26Speaker 0And if you want to get big, if you want to add in muscle, what do you got to do? Lift heavy,
29:31Speaker 0lift heavy and eat and sleep.
29:33Speaker 0Those 3 things are huge. And if you do that and you're 40, you're going to hurt.
29:38Speaker 0I speak with You
29:40Speaker 2may love to, like, yeah, if you're
29:42Speaker 2hurting.
29:44Speaker 0Anybody who's
29:45Speaker 2big and buff and looks great.
29:47Speaker 2They don't feel great. I guarantee you. We said, buddy come in at 55.
29:51Speaker 0He looked great. He's like, bro,
29:53Speaker 0I'm paying
29:54Speaker 0for it.
29:55Speaker 0And so that's going to, I think that the Wolverine stack should be on any stack anywhere. Always. It's just a constant.
30:02Speaker 0Now I'm going to take a side side, take a left turn here and I'm going to say creatine HCL,
30:08Speaker 0preferably I'm gonna say it's about 3 g daily.
30:12Speaker 0It's going to give you more strength, better endurance, better pumps,
30:15Speaker 0increase cell hydration.
30:17Speaker 0I like HCL
30:19Speaker 0because
30:21Speaker 0I get less bloat
30:22Speaker 0when I say that instead of monohydrate.
30:25Speaker 0Again, people lose their minds because they love monohydrate. Cool. Take monohydrate if you want. I personally don't care.
30:31Speaker 0Creatine though is a like a Wolverine and should be taken by everybody, man and woman.
30:36Speaker 0Creatine is the most studied supplement out there and it's amazing. It works. It It It'll help you gain muscle. It helps with like your brain. It's just amazing. So I put that in there because
30:50Speaker 0like Will said, there's not that many options for peptides and I'm a throw a curveball unit with
30:57Speaker 0peptides.
30:58Speaker 0So you're going to best bet is going to be, take some of these
31:03Speaker 0and eat a lot
31:05Speaker 0and lift heavy
31:07Speaker 0and sleep.
31:09Speaker 0And if you do that, you're going to come out ahead.
31:11Speaker 0So I threw the creatine
31:13Speaker 0in for that. So that's I think 5. So definitely went a different direction
31:18Speaker 0than you about to throw a curve ball at you. But again,
31:22Speaker 0I'm going to say
31:23Speaker 0that
31:24Speaker 0you're going to eat carbs right before and right after.
31:29Speaker 0I try to keep carbs down because I like to stay leaner. I like to be buffer, but leaner. I just think that's more of a
31:36Speaker 0harder
31:37Speaker 0thing to get. Like anybody can get really big, just eat, eat really.
31:40Speaker 0And
31:41Speaker 0just let's really focus on sleep.
31:43Speaker 0I mean, you're not going to get big no matter what do unless you sleep. You're not gonna get lean in. Like, unless you're full fear, like, hope
31:52Speaker 0you recover. But
31:53Speaker 0that's the direction
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33:02Speaker 0are just not gear. You're gonna kick ass when it comes to fat burning and just obviously with Retrutide and whatnot. But I wanna throw a little curve at Will because
33:11Speaker 0we
33:12Speaker 0have a lot of friends that do
33:15Speaker 0ask about
33:16Speaker 0gear cycles.
33:18Speaker 0Do have, and let's just be honest, there's countless
33:21Speaker 0men that take steroids. And if you don't know what gear means, it's steroids. It's just how people say it, running gear. So I wanted to throw you
33:29Speaker 0a curve ball and let's talk about for the men that want to know of a steroid
33:34Speaker 0cycle,
33:35Speaker 0like I'm going to be the cutting guy and like you, we're going to probably have some of the same answers, but like you want to get big
33:43Speaker 0and ripped
33:45Speaker 0and lean.
33:47Speaker 0I'm going to tell you mine
33:48Speaker 0for anybody that's listening that does want to add some of those in there.
33:52Speaker 0I think that you should always start now. Have to have testosterone as base. Now there's a lot of people that will
33:58Speaker 0run testosterone too high. My opinion,
34:01Speaker 0you run testosterone too high, that's going to really take the top seat because it's the most powerful. So if you run testosterone high and we'll like a cutter here, testosterone takes the top seat. So I always reverse it.
34:13Speaker 0And that's just your base. Cause that's all you just need to have testosterone in your, in your system. I always start like a cutting cycle with 1 straw.
34:21Speaker 0I think it's just the best.
34:23Speaker 0It hits you right away,
34:25Speaker 0whether it be the orals.
34:27Speaker 0Yeah. But you like better. What do like better oral? Yeah. I like the injectable for sure. Anyway, you should have been so preferably
34:34Speaker 0the injectable and that's 3 weeks,
34:37Speaker 0maybe a month. And like after 2 weeks, I'm going to throw in
34:42Speaker 0masrone.
34:43Speaker 0I know you like the quicker ester. You can go either. You can do a mass P or mass E.
34:49Speaker 0Can even mix them a little bit. That's a good cycle if you do a little bit of, it. But a lot of people will say Primo and say it's probably the most popular and it's definitely the hardest to get.
34:59Speaker 0I would say
35:00Speaker 0personally, Primo and Mastroon are so damn similar
35:04Speaker 0that you don't really
35:06Speaker 0see that big of a difference, but then you run the Mastroon for
35:11Speaker 0maybe 2 months.
35:12Speaker 0So Winstraw, 0.5 the month you add in the Mastroon,
35:16Speaker 0right?
35:17Speaker 0And then you add in
35:20Speaker 0Provirin because
35:22Speaker 0that's going to release some of the free testosterone.
35:24Speaker 0And Provirin's
35:25Speaker 0job is to really just enhance
35:28Speaker 0whatever gear that you're taking. And it's really underrated. Like a lot of people don't
35:33Speaker 0even talk about it.
35:35Speaker 0I think it's great. So I think that would be an easy
35:40Speaker 0stack. You can always add in some Anabar maybe at the end, where you can replace the wind straw with Anabar. People freaking love Anabar. I've always been a wind straw guy over at Anabar, even though Anabar is a little cleaner.
35:51Speaker 0But that's a simple stack. And if you are someone in shape and you will fix your diet and lift heavy shit and
36:00Speaker 090 days, man, once 1 cycle could just now
36:03Speaker 0it's gear, so they're hormones, but they're just night and day when it comes to peptides. I'm not saying you should, but I thought it'd be a nice curve ball because we were talking about muscle gaining. What would you say?
36:14Speaker 2So if the goal is, I mean,
36:17Speaker 2if the goal is to get maximal size, but, but stay lean, but to stay lean, like 1st of all, there's D ball and the draw are your biggest bulkers out there, which is pretty easy.
36:31Speaker 2You'll just water, you'll get huge and strong. You
36:35Speaker 2know, if, so
36:37Speaker 2a testosterone for sure. A 100%. How's
36:41Speaker 2the base? I think that 400 Migs is your anabolic threshold.
36:45Speaker 2At about 400 Migs is the minimum
36:48Speaker 2that you can take before
36:50Speaker 2well, that's the minimum you need to take before for true, like, anabolism.
36:55Speaker 2So to start just popping muscles out,
36:58Speaker 2you need to be at about 400 megs or more
37:00Speaker 2weekly
37:02Speaker 2to really notice a giant muscle, just muscle at your hypertrophy going way up. I would also say that about 800 mgs is about max that I think the body can even take. Yeah.
37:13Speaker 2I think it's pointless. It's just redundant. I don't think you you have enough androgen receptors
37:17Speaker 2to even receive anything more than 800 mix.
37:20Speaker 2We build a tolerance. Sometimes, you know, what you needed last cycle, you might need a little bit more this time. Right? But so 408
37:27Speaker 2hundred, don't get me wrong. I've never ran 800. So
37:30Speaker 2I don't suggest that,
37:33Speaker 2but I've
37:35Speaker 2ran like 400 to 5 50, maybe, you know, maybe probably maybe 600
37:40Speaker 2to sip of no. I mean, if we're doing on-site like my favorite is Sustanon, which is a blend of 4 different esters. Propionate was 24, 48 hours. Phenopropionate
37:50Speaker 2was like 3 day ester, isocaproate,
37:52Speaker 2and
37:53Speaker 2decanoate,
37:54Speaker 2I think, either yeah. That are end deconate. But basically, like, 1 day it hits you in waves. Sostenone comes from sustained
38:01Speaker 2release. So immediately,
38:03Speaker 2then in, like, 3 days, then 5
38:05Speaker 2to 5 days and 10 days. So it's it's hitting you in different levels. Yeah. The whole time.
38:10Speaker 2How many how much? How many pins?
38:12Speaker 2You got it at 3 times a week. Okay. Because it has a fast ester in it, the rule is you never want to let anything that you are taking completely
38:21Speaker 2get out of you before you do it again.
38:23Speaker 2Alright? So if you look at it by graph, right,
38:26Speaker 2it's still, it's got the, it's got the test prop in you. So that's out in 2 days. So you need to go at least every other day. Yeah.
38:33Speaker 2But so SUS and by the way, folks, everybody there's testosterone comes in 6,
38:38Speaker 28 different esters. Yep. It's all the same drug. It is the same thing. It will do the same thing to everybody.
38:46Speaker 2People are like, Oh, that's the test that doesn't make you aromatase.
38:48Speaker 2That makes no sense at all. It's the same thing. All do the same thing. Just think of it as fast release and slow release pills. Okay? So
38:56Speaker 2the only true difference is, okay, the faster release stuff, and this goes for every ester,
39:01Speaker 2is in you faster, out of you faster.
39:04Speaker 2Maybe not as good long term results just because your blood levels won't be as high, but less side effects as opposed to a long ester that's 7 days, but you're doing it twice a week, it starts to compound. Guess what? The side effects compound also.
39:17Speaker 2So if you have a problem, it's particular problem. Right, go with fast esters. But so I would say testosterone,
39:22Speaker 0sustenance, to
39:24Speaker 2kick start. So if we wanna build muscle Yeah. I would kick start with
39:29Speaker 2T ball, Tirinabol,
39:31Speaker 2which is this was created by the East Germans
39:34Speaker 2in the Olympics, and they fed it to all their men and women athletes. Yep. It's D ball's, like, leaner, lighter, more athletic cousin. So if you're eating relatively well, you'll gain size and strength, but you can actually stay
39:48Speaker 2lean and functional Yeah. By taking TBOL. And I would say that's almost like just a kickstart to get your get your body growing. So, like, that that's your run straws, I would say. Yes. That is start. And I'd go, like, 6 weeks. It would be with any oral. You want to cap it at 8 weeks at the very max. Yeah.
40:06Speaker 2Super dry. I'm going stop it like 2 weeks, but T ball, you know, 50 mg,
40:11Speaker 225 to 50 mg daily, 6
40:14Speaker 2weeks. Yeah, sure. 400 assess.
40:18Speaker 2And then so TBOL T ball,
40:20Speaker 2then
40:22Speaker 2Primo or Mastron are my favorites, 100%.
40:25Speaker 2Primo is gonna be a little bit more anabolic than Mastron.
40:28Speaker 2Yes. Mastron's anti estrogenic, so it's actually gonna help with your estrogen and make sure that you're not retaining any water.
40:36Speaker 2Primo is a little bit more anabolic.
40:38Speaker 2I get bad,
40:40Speaker 2DHT
40:41Speaker 2buildup and I noticed it in my prostate. I actually just taking Primo for a little bit of time.
40:46Speaker 2They're both hap they're like what they call happy steroids, right? They're not going to make you all like, ah, bro. And
40:52Speaker 2they are both have a very low side effect profile. Yeah. You can run Primo for a while. Yep. And you want to both run both of those pretty high compared to everything else, like almost twice as much. 2 parts or 1 part does does run like 2 parts either Primo or Math. Jason, 800 Primo. Yeah.
41:07Speaker 0Yeah.
41:08Speaker 2Maybe even, maybe less than that of the Primo.
41:11Speaker 2Maybe $5,600.
41:12Speaker 2Yeah. Mastron, yes.
41:14Speaker 0Mastron, 800?
41:16Speaker 2Yeah, probably. Yes. Yeah. To really get a good effect, we're really trying to get some results fast. Yes.
41:22Speaker 2Absolutely. I think Provirin adding Provirin is brilliant in the last 0.75 of the cycle because it you're we basically have the sex hormone binding globulin, which starts stacking
41:33Speaker 2stacking up around our androgen receptors. Right? And then,
41:36Speaker 2you start having a decline towards the end of the cycle. Well, for 2 reasons, maybe your androgen receptors are getting full and that means all the other stuff you're taking doesn't have that much room to connect.
41:47Speaker 2Provirin just peels that off, brand new androgen receptors, so it feels like everything else is enhanced.
41:53Speaker 0That That's
41:56Speaker 2it also, but it's also people,
41:58Speaker 2people often, if you're running a 16 week cycle around week 14, they're like, damn, I just don't feel great. What the hell? I'm still doing a lot usually because your natural test is now nonexistent.
42:08Speaker 2And you may need to bump up your actual test. Then this is why this is the main reason why you actually need to take tests as a testosterone base.
42:16Speaker 2All this other stuff is going to shut you down.
42:19Speaker 2Okay?
42:19Speaker 2Nothing works well at all without any testosterone. So people who take like Tren and no test, they
42:26Speaker 2might feel great for a week and then just plummet. They feel like because
42:31Speaker 2hills all of your tests. Yeah, you're be depressed. Now the best thing of all of everything there is to stay lean and be jacked is trend.
42:41Speaker 2Hands down.
42:42Speaker 2Would, but I do not suggest anybody do that. There's no reason to do that unless you're like competing
42:48Speaker 2professionally into your career. Right? Gosh, no, no.
42:51Speaker 0Brutal size. Brutal. Worth like what it is. 500
42:54Speaker 2to 500 anabolic androgenic rating. It's,
42:58Speaker 2yeah. So 5, 4 times as strong as testosterone.
43:01Speaker 2These all have anabolic
43:03Speaker 2androgenic ratings. Anabolic means how well does this compound grow muscle?
43:07Speaker 2Androgenic means how well does it enhance your male characteristics? Right? Aggression, sex drive,
43:13Speaker 2fuck strength, hair growth, or loss, depending on wherever you're predisposed to.
43:18Speaker 2Worth looking at, but I don't know. I'd cap it there. I'd cap it right there. So very similar.
43:23Speaker 2I love Winstro also. Just, I have so many injuries
43:26Speaker 2that it pulls all the water out of you and it pulls water out of your joints. It just makes everything on me ache. Yeah. I've never had that problem. It's weird. Everybody talks about it. I just, for whatever,
43:36Speaker 0everybody's different, but that's rad. I thought that would be a fun little,
43:39Speaker 2little, 3 Creatine folks. I'll give you a little, 1 last explanation. Creatine is great. Creatine is 1 of the most effective over the counter supplements like of all. Everybody should take it, men and women. Absolutely. It's really, really good. So basically creatine is
43:52Speaker 2is increasing your it's base when we burn when we use energy, that's the ATP. So that's what gets us fast and strong but it only lasts for a little bit. Okay? It then once we use all our ATP it converts into ADP.
44:06Speaker 2That is why it turns into lactic acid. So when you run and then your legs burn
44:11Speaker 2that's because you've burnt off out your ATP and now it is converted into ADP.
44:16Speaker 2Creatine is reuptaking
44:18Speaker 2the ADP and converting it back into ATP. So you will be basically stronger,
44:23Speaker 2longer,
44:24Speaker 2right? For a little bit longer,
44:27Speaker 2you'll notice that all of your lifts go up 20 pounds. Yeah. If you start grade 2. So
44:31Speaker 2it's making you stronger. So now all of a sudden without growing any muscle,
44:36Speaker 2right? You're now stronger and you can put way more stress on those muscles, right? You can add more weight. Therefore we get bigger, better tears. And that's the whole point. That's how we build muscles. We tear your muscle down and it feed it protein and sleep and it grows back together, right? So
44:53Speaker 2you're now being able to put way more stress on your muscles in a way faster time period. You can almost get like 2 workouts done in the same hour. It's
45:03Speaker 2a cell volumizer, so it opens up your cells and allows more nutrients to come in. So now if we got bigger,
45:07Speaker 2deeper tears and now we can take in twice as much protein into the cells and therefore it can build that muscle twice as fast,
45:16Speaker 2that results in,
45:18Speaker 2well, actual gains, right? So 1st of all, Cagrilintide's main job is just kind of is a performance enhancer, but that secondary function actually makes you build muscle
45:28Speaker 2faster.
45:29Speaker 2And the HCL is just a pre broke down version, so it doesn't touch your liver.
45:34Speaker 2Touching your liver
45:35Speaker 2is backs up a bit. That's what causes your cells to just kind of fill with water and you look bloated. Yeah. And
45:42Speaker 2yeah, HCL is like dosage like a gram and 0.5 versus monohydrate
45:46Speaker 2is like 5 g and drink it with sugar water. Drink it with apple juice so it actually gets in you. It's really hard to get in you. Yeah, like 1.5, I would say 3 g on the HCL. Depends on retention. Yeah, you can do
45:57Speaker 0more. But that was cool. I like that. Probably should, what would be fun would be to come up with like 3 people,
46:04Speaker 0like a lady that's
46:05Speaker 070 pounds overweight, age,
46:07Speaker 0like a specific and then a specific and like, how would we get
46:12Speaker 0that person? That'd
46:14Speaker 0be fun. Shoot that. So cool. That was fun. Yeah,
46:17Speaker 0a little bit of a different,
46:19Speaker 0shows we the difference in our personalities and how we're all different, but
46:23Speaker 0thought that you guys would enjoy that. Man, we get so many questions on GEAR too. So it's a Peptide
46:29Speaker 0podcast, but I know people ask us literally every day, constantly. So there you go, 3 guys. So
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47:35Speaker 0Yeah.
47:36Speaker 2On that. Check it out. We're just kind of like a list of like, Hey, what are the sounds like most common and safe peptides for dogs? What do you do with what situations would you use them for?
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