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0:38Speaker 0Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Across the way, my buddy,
0:45Speaker 0little bit sick, but still looks good. William T. Haws. Thank you. Hello. Your new new hat. That's great. I like the brown hat. I like the brown hat too.
0:54Speaker 0Brown and black. Yeah. Look good. Little fun fact for people. They probably don't care about them. You anyway. So we ordered some brown hats, tan hats, khaki hats, if you will, and they came in cream.
1:05Speaker 0They were not Yeah. Cream. Cream hats. Hold up. I called Will and I said, they're not khaki. They are cream.
1:14Speaker 1did not come in brown, but those look brown. We got some new ones. Although, can I, I'm sorry, but let me I'm gonna maybe put you on blast, JD, is I asked I said, hey, man? These cats came in cream. What's up with that? We really wanted khaki, and I'm not and I was like I approved it. Yeah. He goes, well, he sent me an email. He goes, well, this is the email that JD said. It says, can we order please have cream colored hats? No.
1:37Speaker 1Yes. Cream colored hats. Can't even imagine me saying that. I know. So whatever. Really? Yeah. So and I mean, I I asked him. I said, look, did I years ago before I got sober? Like, respond. I'm not asking you, like, replace these. Like, it's all good. And he's like, well, they actually
1:52Speaker 0this is JD's email. Oh my god. Wow. That's funny, actually. Yeah. Yeah. I would have not. I'm surprised you didn't tell me that. Yeah. Well My fault. There was no point telling you. So, like Well I was thinking it was your fault, so I am the culprit.
2:06Speaker 1I like the brown. Beige khaki a lot better. Yeah, it looks good. Yeah. But yeah, I'm a little sick. You gotta hear my voice, but
2:15Speaker 1I gave him. I gave I Thomas and Alpha-one. Yeah. I had some VIP nasal spray. Yeah. And drinking water.
2:25Speaker 0All that stuff. Yeah. I was telling Will, I, I was feeling sick. What was it like a week or so ago? And I, I am do carnivore stuff and, so I don't eat fruit, but I was feeling shitty. So I went and what I used to do when I was younger, I would go to like a Jamba Juice, which I don't know if those even exist anymore. They? I haven't seen them forever. I went to a juice place and
2:45Speaker 0got a juice, just a fresh squeezed orange juice. And I would drink 2 huge things of it, man. It always used to make me feel better when I was young. So I did that too, and it seemed like it worked. That's a good idea to try that. You know, the 1 thing about being sick, it's like,
2:59Speaker 1I don't know. I've always been the philosophy, like, just go run it out of myself. You know, if you,
3:11Speaker 1feeling how shitty you feel and just amplifying it in your own brain. I'm just way better off just,
3:17Speaker 1feel better when you Just go do something. Go do something more and run it out. Sweat it out. Now I know that yeah. It's a gym. Do something. I
3:28Speaker 0stayed at, the Paseo that we were talking about. And I stayed there and had 1 night because I needed some sleep, and it's right by the gym that we go sometimes or we used to go, but I've gone for wherever and they have a steam room that's just- Yeah, it's nice. So I hit the steam room, got some OJ, got some sleep.
3:46Speaker 0did not bring it on my travels, but, so lesson learned. I gave you shit. I gave him shit. So I gave him shit. I did. I said, I'm hoping that you took some Thymosin Alpha and
4:04Speaker 01 and he's so knowledgeable. 1 of the most knowledgeable supplement guys I know. And he doesn't follow his own Well, that's the thing, you know, do as I say, not as I do. That's
4:23Speaker 0well, today's a cool day. I, I, I, we're, I think we're going to both enjoy this. We're going to talk about some peptides
4:56Speaker 0obesity drug. I've read both numerous times, Whatever 1 you want to choose, it's AOD-nine thousand 604. AOD is what we call it anyway, but,
5:09Speaker 0with Will telling me that he's never taken it. So was surprised by that because I've, it's probably
5:20Speaker 0And so it basically back in the, I think it was the late, late nineties, scientists were studying human growth hormone and they found the last piece of the human growth hormone chain, the last 15 amino acids were
5:54Speaker 0So it's great, though. It's great. You know, anything in regards to this, you haven't tried this. You can't even give, I know you know a lot about peptides in general, but I can give you the fact of
6:16Speaker 1in 2nd place would be AOD. Probably based on how many people are taking it, buying it, I mean, and swearing by it. Yeah. I I hear nothing, but everybody just loves it and it works great. The reason I don't take it, like, I don't know. I'm naturally a skinny person, and so I tend to not really take any fat burners because
6:38Speaker 1keeping enough muscle on. But if I go down to like eating 3 meals a day, I'll lose 10 pounds. Wow. How many meals do you eat? How many meals do you eat? I mean, probably 3 to 4 to 5 sometimes. You know, I've always believed in, I eat like small frequent meals. Yeah. Now I could always be better. Right? I'm not at my like peak
6:59Speaker 1yeah, like I always have a protein shake after I lift. I always have a protein shake right before I go to sleep. Like post workout, and we'll talk about this why with, especially with IGF-one, like post workout, right, that is when our muscles are now like just the biggest sponges. Right? They just need nutrients because you just tore them down and they're looking for building materials. So post workout and then right before we go to sleep because
7:23Speaker 1builds most of our muscles. So that's when we need building materials. People say, you know, don't eat before you go to bed. Well, cool. Don't eat like cinnamon rolls and
7:33Speaker 1cake. Oh, but it's right before you go to bed. But like you need protein. If you want to build muscle,
7:37Speaker 0eat that stuff right before bed. Yeah. A lot of people won't eat carbs before bed. Yeah. And I'll
7:53Speaker 0Will was always, I think we've probably talked about this on the show numerous times. Well, let's talk about it again, because it's something that's always irritated me. So we've known each other a long time and he just is the type of dude that's always in good shape. He's a good looking dude, but he's always in good shape.
8:08Speaker 0And I watch him eat cookies and I watch him eat cake and I watch him like, listen, I'm in good shape too, but I don't eat that stuff because if I eat that stuff, I don't look like this. So it drove me freaking crazy. I'm like, he's just
8:22Speaker 0I had him he stored my phone as Will Beast Man for ever. I think I think in the last years when I finally changed that, believe it or not, dude, but like,
8:31Speaker 1hey, man, some people I've been blessed with being, like, yes, being tall and having an ultra fast metabolism.
8:40Speaker 1Some people have to be super dismal. Know what? Like, here's what people don't see is like, yes, cool. We're sitting at meetings. I'm eating all the cookies and I still eat sweets pretty regularly,
8:54Speaker 1Always, always, always lifting weights 5 days a week at the very 3 minimum. I think my 1st year of sobriety, I went 3 64 days to the gym and often a lot of those days was weird twice a day, Numerous times for sure. Because I had to replace some, you know, this addiction and, and that's the only thing that made me feel better. What
9:11Speaker 1people don't see is yes, the lifetime of lifting and building muscle that stays on me, which in turn boosts my metabolism. My, my basal metabolic rate is probably like 2,600
9:31Speaker 1calories. That just because of the amount of lean muscle I have on me. And I am, I'm six'four, 2 45. And so, I'm naturally a lean person. I have to work hard to put, to keep muscle on, but I,
9:54Speaker 0It'll catch up sometime, though, sooner than that. You know, it's funny, man. I actually say that. You know, it's funny. So Yeah. I just remember before you were, like, in your forties. Uh-huh.
10:01Speaker 0Because years ago, I would always be like, it's gonna get them. Forties, man, my it was 38 for me. Like, I could eat pretty much what I wanted until, like, 38, and then all of a sudden I went, and
10:11Speaker 0I was like, I somebody had taken a picture, and I was still lifting weights. I was still kind of eating. Okay? And then I looked at the picture of me. I'm like, dude, I'm fat. Oh, yeah. It was a 38 man was saying, and I got my testosterone checked. Was under 300.
10:25Speaker 1That'll do it too. Like, folks, yes. I mean, I can I stay in shape, but I also my hormones are are optimized? You know? My metabolism is fast because
10:34Speaker 1I take tests, not a whole bunch, but enough to keep metabolism fast and continue to keep all of the muscle on me.
10:43Speaker 1sure helps, right? Just being smart. The technology is there. We know how to take the stuff safely.
10:52Speaker 0you know, we've discussed it a few times, but like going through some of my comments, I post something on TRT or whatnot, and it's always fun to, it's always fun to read some of the comments because it's like, dude, this is an educated
11:03Speaker 0opinion that people are having in regards to why would you want to feel like shit? You don't need to feel like shit. So you can feel great. You can feel like a 31 year old. Remember how easy it was in the same shape as your 31? Was a lot easier. You still had to like take care of yourself, but like, can you feel like that when in your mid forties, fifties. You can feel like that, dude. So it's like Right. Or people who are, like, 70.
11:55Speaker 0which there's numerous secretive dogs obviously, but peptide families that live in the same house, so to speak. They all kind of to a degree they're related,
12:04Speaker 0but do different stuff. So you got human growth hormone, which is like the dad, the grandfather, so to speak. And that's just, it's got it all. You got your human growth hormone. That's going to be better sleep. Yep. You got, it's going be helped with, anti aging skin,
12:21Speaker 0Geez, you can go on and on. What did I say? Anti aging skin, hair, nails, all the movie starts Fat burning. I mean, fat burning, it's going to actually increase, you know, satellite signals that will not only
12:35Speaker 1recover faster and make your your actual muscle fibers bigger, it will create brand new muscle fibers. Right? New sorts of new stem cells in your body. It's a biggie it of denser.
12:54Speaker 1stop that. Essentially, there's nothing that goes in you. That's a finished product and that's really broad spectrum. So it does everything. Yep. I would say though
13:03Speaker 1it leans towards a little bit more fat burning than muscle gain. Yeah. Okay? For sure. We're gonna say like, hey, what it's definitely gonna help speed and you really notice growth when you're when you it's it's a very subtle thing. Right? When you stop. Right. You go, oh, shit. That's what it was doing. Okay. Now I know. For sure. Because there's not
13:32Speaker 1it needs to be taken over time for a long period of time. But broad spectrum, absolutely sleep. Yep. You know, just recovery,
13:39Speaker 1but really kind of skin. You take it for 5 years straight and your skin's going to look like it does after 5 years like it is now. Yeah. And
13:50Speaker 1broad spectrum, but leaning towards fat burning. Then, and nothing really can stop it because it is the hormone. So then you have your growth hormone peptides. Those
14:04Speaker 1to make more of its natural growth hormone, right, but through its natural process. So
14:10Speaker 1some things can stop that. So basically that takes, it just activates your pituitary to,
14:24Speaker 1may not, if you already have a ton of growth, right? Your pituitary may not go, oh, I don't really feel like waking up that much. Sorry. So it can if you have a lot of growth hormone on board, it can dull that pituitary response. But
14:42Speaker 1is the natural way. Right? That's how our body makes growth hormone. So this stuff is safe and our body makes growth hormone. You're talking about screen boxes. Yes. Right, right, right. Our body makes growth hormone impulses, maybe like 6 a day. Our biggest pulse is right before we go to sleep or right after we fall asleep. Okay? That and, and you know, like they're in a decently good 1, right as we wake up during middle of the day, they're just kind of weak pulses. So that is why we don't grow much muscle during the day. Our body is stressed out and doing and has, or has its mind on other things. The last thing it's really wanting to do is build muscle. It's
15:31Speaker 1affects the size of the pulse instead of actually creating pulses. That's why it's with most of them. You can take it with. Yeah. That's why they're synergistically work. Right? Like pituitary.
15:40Speaker 1All right guys, let's kickstart it. And then the Ipamorelin is there to just boost that pulse. That makes sense. Yeah. So
15:47Speaker 0that's what, that's how the growth hormone works now where the growth, the HGH secreted gags. 1 Ipamorelin will also be as a little beacon and like a buffer that if your body's making too much growth hormone, it can actually
16:05Speaker 1of those, you know? Okay. And it also, well, and also Ipamorelin, just like MK, it works on your ghrelin receptor, which in turn makes you hungry.
16:14Speaker 1So Do you feel like that on that? I don't. Not anyway. It's not because it's just not as strong. It's just not as strong as MK is,
16:25Speaker 1Right? And it's actually how this you take when we have growth hormone, whether we put it in, right, exogenously
16:31Speaker 1or we have our pituitary make it. Yep. It now goes into our liver and our liver then produces the IGF-one, which is kind of really like growth.
16:44Speaker 1So naturally, that's how that goes. So, and also just incidentally, when you go get a blood test for your HGH, they test your IGF-one levels. Totally. There's no way to really test accurately your HGH
16:57Speaker 1Already know. I mean, we basically know how based on how this is, how high this is, is how much HGH is being made. So they test that Now that 1, so when we talk about IGF-1LR-three,
17:25Speaker 1which is that 1 is growth, growth, growth, growth signaling. Like that is your best. If you say HGH is really broad spectrum, a little bit more towards fat burning, this 1 is way more towards muscle. Trying to get some muscle on. It'll also help with those satellite cells creating new muscular cells,
17:43Speaker 1and it will help with nutrient partitioning. Yep. Which is why people get a massive pump.
17:50Speaker 1it's taking your glucose and just shoving it where your body is asking for it. Yep. Right? Which you get a huge pump. The worry there is it sucks glucose out of you to shove it right where it wants to be, and it can be a problem making somebody go hypo
18:05Speaker 1He's looking at me right now. Tell him why. So if you're on keto, basically, if you're on keto or a cardiovert and you have no sugars in you,
18:12Speaker 1that is the 1 worry with IGF-one. Right. Is this gonna pull the little bits of sugars that you have that you really need out of you, shove them to your muscles, and now you don't have them. And then we can blood sugar crash and not feel good. Yeah. Holy shit. Then your AOD is the final is
18:40Speaker 1It's 15. Amino acids 177 through 191. And it's only responsible for fat burning. There's light polypolysis purely.
18:48Speaker 1That's it. None of this, you get none of the benefit, but you also get none of the potential negatives, which is like insulin sense of decrease, insulin sensitivity.
18:59Speaker 0None of that stuff. Just pure, pure, pure fat burning. So let's go through that again really quickly just for everybody because you went quick and that was great. That was you did that. I love it. So you got your HGH. That was great. You did your HGH, which is going to be like basically synthetic growth
19:20Speaker 0which is zipper morale. And you're going to take your Tesamorelin and Hexarelin, and you can go on a hoot. To the secretogogs, we generally take those at night. At night to amplify natural
19:30Speaker 1regular pulse that's already gonna be big. You take those to boost that 1. Right? It's gonna help your body. In the morning, you don't have that great pulse. So we take the straight HGH
19:40Speaker 1in the morning to really kind of produce a pulse because if you take the HGH at night,
19:55Speaker 0sit on the HGH for a 2nd, because I'm sure you've heard this a 100 times because I have to, there
20:05Speaker 0so to speak on some aspects because of the cancer thing. Let's talk about just for a 2nd. So I'll just give you my opinion. I am not a doctor, so don't take this as bond, but I have read a lot about it. I've taken it for years.
20:22Speaker 0going be a problem. Like you can drink way too much water. Like it's anything like anything that we take too much of is going to be a problem. Now I'm not-
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20:52Speaker 0better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. Saying if you take small doses of HGH, there's no risk at all. My opinion with the studying that I have done, I would just talk about me. If you're taking 2 IU,
22:16Speaker 0you've seen the dudes and I won't say his name, but I mean, you're probably gonna know who I'm talking about because he's 1 of my favorite guys. I love his stuff. He's passed on by now. But when he started taking a lot of growth hormone, he looked like an ogre. Like he was a good looking dude and then he was taking like 25 IUs of like growth hormone a day. Yeah. And then his head got all big and it's like, woah, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, again, I'm not ripping on him, but that's what happens. You're taking too much, dude. Like, you don't what happens? Everything grows. Your head grows. Your heart grows.
22:45Speaker 1Everything will grow. Right. Everything, everything, everything will grow. So low dose, not worried about. Dose, agree. Fair
22:57Speaker 0is over here. It's just, I'm not that worried about it personally. The rewards are for anybody over 40 are freaking amazing.
23:03Speaker 0Like Will said, like you don't, it's not, you feel human growth hormone. You, you, you feel it when you come off of it because once you get to like 6 months, if you're taking, let's just use 2 ways. For example,
23:19Speaker 0fat. Like you can eat a little bit sloppier. I'm not saying you should, but I'm saying you have the ability to do that because your body's burning fat. Right? So that's,
23:30Speaker 1notice it when you stop using it. This is not like you feel a shift in your body, but you do sleep good pretty quickly. I felt that pretty quickly. You get pumps immediately. Like here's the sign number 1 that it's well- Capable tonally. So yes, here's the signs people say like that it is absolutely working. And this doesn't happen immediately. It needs to build up a bit. You better like carpal tunnel. So your joints should be a little bit swollen and, like, kinda can't really make the make a fist. Yep.
23:58Speaker 1some people, you'll feel a little tingling in your fingers. I get the tingling for sure. Yeah. Some people have this overactive nerve where they, like, can't they can't take it's they it just nerves and blast them down their forearms.
24:21Speaker 1also when you start to growth, you should be a little bit tired. So people talk and say, hey, I start taking damn, why do I feel so just like run down and exhausted? Right? Well, your body is now working
24:34Speaker 1to try to grow everything. Right? It's not an easy thing for us to grow brand new muscle tissue out of nowhere. So your body, it's just, you're just, it's just a kind of a shock. Woah, body's really using energy to burn. And well, guess what? That means it's building muscle and it's burning fat because it's using those calories.
24:52Speaker 0So that's a good sign that ends up going away and your body stabilizes. So I don't you remember me calling you and telling me that? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I mean, it's been years now. Do you remember when I 1st started taking it? Last time. I couldn't even lift, dude. My elbows and my wrist were killing me. And I think I I think I was doing 3. I do 2 months. Doing 3 and I just went down to 2. I think I went through doing it for 1 for a long time, then I finally went to 2. But anyways, you gotta find your sweet spot like we always talk about. For me, it's 2. I don't think anybody needs to do over 2. Like, you can go a little bit to pass that and do 3, but you're a big guy, so you can get away with 3. You don't need a lot, And it goes a long way. Would say the recommended dosing for men is like 2 3 to 4 I use. I
25:41Speaker 0You get suspense when you start doing that. But 2 IUs, if you break down the mouth compared to like a secretagogue,
25:46Speaker 0it's actually works out a little bit cheaper. Yeah. It's depending on the IUs you buy, but like what I mean? So you got the HGH, we've been rambling about that because we love it obviously. But the AOD literally is literally is the last piece and it's very simple. It just burns fat. So it burns fat. I take it. I love it. Again, I'm not going to say it's, it's comparable to Retrutide, but it's,
26:09Speaker 0it's here. And it's in my arsenal again, I think it's in my top 3 because it works that good. If somebody is looking to
26:18Speaker 0if you have taken Retatrutide and a lot of people through the Q and a want to come off for whatever reason, doesn't matter why this
26:25Speaker 0would be a filler and they work in tandem as well. If you're running Reta and AOD, they would work like
26:41Speaker 13 to 4 months or so. Like, if you're doing a metabolic peptide, then then don't just stop all of them. Now this AOD is a great 1 to replace. Right? Absolutely. Now you'd go AOD, right? You were on Retatr or you were on, I don't know, 5 minute 1 at noon. Right? Go to go to AOD
26:57Speaker 1and then go back and do the cycle. Your body is always burning tons of calories, especially like the, the, the fat burner peptides,
27:06Speaker 0Will and I have talked about countless times. We say they're not in the category of gear.
27:11Speaker 0I'm sure most people know what I'm talking about. Steroids is what I'm talking about. I say gear, they're not, but where they shine, a lot of them is burning freaking fat, right? They burning fat. So AOD will do that.
27:24Speaker 0Yeah, that's the breakdown of the basically the family of the human growth hormone, AOD,
27:51Speaker 0to worry about any of the negative side effects of any type of the growth, the growth hormone,
27:58Speaker 0you can run it for a long period. I mean, I run HGH for long periods anyway. So I think you can run it for a lot longer than 16
28:16Speaker 0But about 16 weeks is what we say. We're going to say generally your starting dose is going to be 2 50 micrograms to 500.
28:25Speaker 0if you're trying to get super lean, you can do it twice a day. So I kind of go back and forth depending on my objectives at the time and how I'm looking and how I'm feeling. But I oftentimes will run,
28:37Speaker 0you know, like a 2 50 in the morning, 2 50 at night, micrograms. And that works well. I
28:49Speaker 1you wanna burn fat? It is rad. It works. Yep. It changed your body. 2 thing 2 more things on this. Well, a, you people may have heard of,
28:58Speaker 1frag 1 76. K? So so 1 76, 1 77 are pretty similar. So frag is a fragment of the h HGH chain. It's 16 of the amino acids, 1 76
29:25Speaker 1AOD 9 6 0 4 over the HGH frag. Don't worry about the insulin spikes. Yeah. So And the next thing is AOD is super hydrophobic.
29:35Speaker 1So people ought to know this. Right? Right? Yeah. We didn't know this. Mostly, wouldn't even buy a bottle of of AOD that is in a 10 that's 10 mg
29:51Speaker 1solution you put in there, it's probably gonna gel up. So AOD is like the number 1 culprit, easiest peptide there is to gelling up.
30:11Speaker 1AOD water, which is a mix of acetic acid, bacteriostatic water, and glycerin because the acetic acid can have a little bite to it. Glycerin helps dull that bite.
30:23Speaker 1and that's not really to keep it sterile because you're because we're worried about you getting an infection. What we're worried about is the peptide having
30:30Speaker 1bacteria in it and it diminishing the effectiveness of the peptide. That's why there's bacteriostatic water. That's why you should always mix with bacteriostatic water. But the acetic acid is the main thing that
30:48Speaker 1But It will gel up. It will gel up. If you just put bacteriostatic water in, chances are it's going to gel get too cold. Also put in body or room temp water. 100%. You can keep your peptide in the fridge, but room temp water. Do not put too cold water in there. Yeah.
31:07Speaker 0inject the liquid. I would use the liquid that's in the damn bottle. It gets cloudy. I mean, not that at all. I don't really care. I mean, it's you just leave it out for a little bit. My experience with it, which is a lot,
31:18Speaker 0I've used bacteriostatic water with it countless times, know, sometimes I even do because I don't have acidic water. So it is what it is, so I've done it for so long. And it does gel up sometimes. I put it out on the table for a little bit and it just, it kind of settles and it's fine.
31:32Speaker 0I'm not worried about that. Some people are worried about all kinds of stuff. I've done this for a long time. I've done a lot of compounds. So if that's me, if you are worried about it, then don't do it. That's it. Eat your zone. Live and let live.
31:44Speaker 0Yeah, it is amazing. I'm gonna throw a curve at you and tell you this because we didn't talk about this, but
32:04Speaker 1Somebody's overweight? Good. Great. I still would run, like, 1 of the g I'd still run Reta as your, like, foundational
32:13Speaker 1testosterone to make sure that that's optimized in as a woman to optimize your hormones also. And it may hey, that may also include testosterone.
32:34Speaker 1I would run the AOD alongside that. Right? You're good. It's just gonna amplify your fat burning. I
32:45Speaker 1amplify the actual workout. Right? Don't take it if we want to be somebody who just wants to lose weight and do nothing or do nothing and then still lose weight.
32:57Speaker 1still make sure, yeah, if you're a person who's actually actively working out, it's going to work so much better. Yeah. Anybody
33:11Speaker 0like you said, the TRT, it's a must. If you do not run TRT and you're over 40, get your blood work done. Trust me. Retrutide
33:33Speaker 0if you're overweight, if you're lean, like I said, I give it to my bride and man, it just in days, was like, babe, you look good. And it was the AOD because that stuff works good. Yeah. Know So- it's tough. Like, we get these questions constantly, and I we get kind of,
33:47Speaker 1like, over the question. Like, what should I take? And it's the same answer every single time. What'd you take? Like, there are
33:59Speaker 1we don't know. And they're all amazing. They're all really good. Really good. Retta's gonna be the best and be foundational.
34:07Speaker 1try 1, then try the other and try the 1, try the other. Yeah. We don't know what's gonna work best on you. Right. There is no indication.
34:14Speaker 1I mean, there's a few things that stand out, like maybe like SLU-5If you're a performance athlete, you want better endurance.
34:21Speaker 1Cool. That's what you wanna take. But as far as just the pure fat burning, everything works
34:25Speaker 1somebody equal. I'd say the AOD is probably the better, probably the 2nd best fat burner out there besides 1 of the GLPs.
34:34Speaker 1it's like, Just you just gotta try. It's a good question. We don't know. We don't know. AOD, here's my opinion. Retta, AOD,
34:46Speaker 1Yeah. And I do think that 5 Amino and L-one hundred 10 should not are are aren't aren't like,
34:53Speaker 1their own fat burners. Right? I think they're very good, like adjunct or supplementary fat burners to others. Yeah.
34:59Speaker 1Agreed. And all of these can be rated with each other. Just don't stack GLP on top of GLP on top of GLP. Yeah.
35:06Speaker 0You know? But everything else actually absolutely can be. We obviously are gym rats and like we, we talk and we're in that world
35:14Speaker 0and there, I know numerous people that take them all. And I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, I'm just telling you that they do and they look freaking great. So,
35:23Speaker 0they also eat really good too. So let's not get away from the diet. They don't sit on the couch and eat Doritos. They're working their butts off. They all, if you take care of yourself, man, and you take these things, they work well, but you can't sit down, my caption, hope they do well. 100%. These are a fantastic way. Optimizers.
35:42Speaker 1So that means that you have to have some level of competency before you can optimize something. Yeah.
35:53Speaker 1to par, then you put something else, put any of these peptides in, bam, now it's really worth fire.
36:05Speaker 1and what the heck is that LR-three for? Right? That basically is just a long makes it a long estered form. So without the LR-three,
36:16Speaker 1and is active in your muscles for hours, and it's sending this growth signal. With the LR3, that moves that to about 20 to 30 hours where it stays in your muscles
36:30Speaker 1there's the dip. That's why the LR3 there, we've talked about it just it gets to bypass the HGH. It bypasses liver.
36:41Speaker 1It can create new satellite cells, new new satellite actual, like, satellite muscles. That's the best part. New muscles instead of just enhancing them, but it's really all about
37:17Speaker 1it's just gonna churn muscle fibers. It's gonna grow your muscle fibers. Yep. That's it. It is a sick you know, it's a sick- I take it after I leave. Molecule. It's not a hormone, but I mean,
37:25Speaker 1it, yes, it is just going to tell your muscles to grow and to take in nutrients. Right? So it's great with the nutrient partitioning as we had mentioned,
37:35Speaker 1which is why that helps to grow muscles. Right? So when we lift weights and we tear our muscles down, our muscles are just our sponges. We put the IGF-one in there and our muscles just shove in all the amino acids and glucose, right, to help to give the amino acids some energy to build muscle. So
37:59Speaker 1which in turn ends up growing more muscles. Some people inject this into the site, which is kind of a fallacy. Like,
38:10Speaker 1or bad, but, yeah, cool. It's gonna stay the IGF-one will be in those muscle fibers a little bit longer, but it rapidly kind of distributes
38:21Speaker 1I don't know. The muscle gain, if you inject it into your bicep versus not versus just a regular sub Q injection, I don't know if you'll really
38:36Speaker 1anyway. If you think it does, it does. If think it does, it does. Just do it. Okay. It's just as good as putting it here. Right. You know?
38:48Speaker 1post workout. I do. Right. Yeah. Which is good. Like, muscle growth, right, post workout. That's when your muscles are ready to eat food, and now he puts that in there, and that just double shoves protein in Yeah. For the next 20 to 30 hours. Yep. Right? Yep. Or if I'm gonna carb up. Or yeah. Yeah. It's good if you're gonna eat a big, carby meal. Mhmm. It's good to take it. Right. 1 strategy is do a little bit IGF-one.
39:10Speaker 1Eat that. Eat if you just, you know, when you eat a huge carb carb meal for dinner, you wake up in the morning, damn, I fell full. Like, it's crazy. You do this and then have your cheat meal or day. You'll wake up in the morning with a stomach flat. Why? Cause it just took those nutrients. Looked like glucose. Put them into the places. Shove them into your muscles, and you will wake up feeling full
39:32Speaker 0I remember when Will 1st told me that, and then I I I checked him on it. I was saying I read about it. Was like, that's actually interesting. So when I went out and just just gorged myself back a few months ago and I was eating the cars
39:45Speaker 0I did. I woke up the next day and my stomach was freaking shredded. I'm like, wow, that's freaking rad. I think I called you. I'm like, dude, that stuff works, It's amazing.
39:53Speaker 1The other way, hey, if you wanna get really big pumps in the gym, do it pre workout. Yeah.
39:57Speaker 1But eat some carbs with it. And in fact, that that ought to be noted everybody. Everybody. Like, it is important to have some carbs on board. The 1 biggest worry is that it is going to suck all the glucose out of you, put it in your muscles, and now we
40:19Speaker 1It's gonna work better for you. Yeah. And I even if you're on keto, like, shit, go ahead. Like, have a little bit of carbs Yeah. With it, and it will just suck that out. You won't you won't
40:28Speaker 1it won't really throw you out of keto the next day, I bet, if you had a little bit of carbs with it,
40:33Speaker 0because it works pretty fast. So it'll just shove. That's why you get that huge That's interesting. We should test it. Yeah. I'll test it. Try that now. Test it.
40:41Speaker 1The other thing is like training style. Guys, some people you will notice, like some people get
40:47Speaker 1some people think, oh man, that works awesome. Right? Then some people don't. Well What's the objective?
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41:40Speaker 1few heavy reps, like 4 to 6 reps with 5 minute breaks. Right? You want volume. Right? And you need to be sore the next day and you probably wanna work. So you need, I'm saying like, I don't know,
41:51Speaker 18 to 15 reps on everything. Yeah. Helps with the fun. And like a decently longer training span. I'm not saying train for 2 hours, but I'm also not saying just go do a 30 minute HIIT workout and be gone. It's not going to help there. You need to give your muscles. You need to break those muscles down thoroughly
42:09Speaker 0and then feed them. It ain't gonna work because there are no building materials. Right? That's the best thing you said all day. That's the truth. Like you gotta feed your muscles. You've got to feed them. Yeah. Gotta feed those things.
42:20Speaker 1Yeah. So nothing will work. And especially like you don't really wanna run this for very long, I'd say 4 to 6 weeks. So you make those 4 to 6 weeks count and say, and make a damn commitment that you're gonna eat a lot of protein.
42:34Speaker 1Because while you're taking it, shit, you like the protein the muscle protein synthesis,
42:45Speaker 1now off the charts. Okay, can't do it very long, but now's the time. If you think it's not working, you're probably not eating enough food because of course,
42:54Speaker 1muscle don't get grown out thin air. Right? Yeah. Now is the time. So shove those those muscles there. So like volume training is a very good idea. You have to and be consistent. Right? I would train I would almost do like a like a like like a push pull leg split
43:21Speaker 1And eat a little bit of glucose pre workout, post workout. Even glucose is always a good idea to have your protein
43:28Speaker 1with your protein powder. It generally kind of spikes your insulin a bit, opens up your cells, and now allows all those nutrients to go in there. You know, it's funny. So
43:36Speaker 0what was it? So October, November, December, I was doing carbs and I had not eaten carbs for literally 5 years. Like, will knows I was disciplined
43:44Speaker 0carnivore. Like, built my channel on it, but I needed a change. And I, it was great to eat carbs. I hadn't had not had white rice in forever and I love white rice and it was great. And then, you know, it's funny what you made me think of this where I
43:56Speaker 0went back to my old school dude after I lifted, I was drinking protein shakes because I'm always fasting and and I'm I'm always always eating fat. You know what I mean? So I don't live like that anymore,
44:05Speaker 0but it worked really good, bro. I got freaking It's freaking amazing. When you go from fasting and keto and then you start eating carbs again, like, bro. I was blown away by it. It. I did not think it was going work that far. Yeah, about 25%.
44:18Speaker 0actually talking about this to somebody yesterday at Andy, we were having lunch. He was talking about ketosis
44:35Speaker 0So I thought because of that and being a carnivore for 5 years, when I started in January 1, back on carnivore, that I would get back into it really quickly.
44:46Speaker 0Can feel like you feel like shit. I mean, a lot of salt, a lot of fat. Like I know how to combat that stuff,
45:12Speaker 0This is probably a really good kick start to get into keto. Good idea. I've never thought of it like that, but that literally happened to Super logical. Yeah. That makes sense. Lot of sense.
45:37Speaker 1take HCG and IGF-one. Hell yeah. Absolutely. Hell, take Creatine and IGF-one. Everything that you take while on IGF-one
45:45Speaker 0is going to be enhanced. 100%. So And the negatives. So And the negatives. You're like eating like shit and you're not doing much and you're taking it, that's gonna enhance the bad things too, man. So don't do that. True. True. So I don't know. I think that that's about it. Like I work out. Eat Right.
46:05Speaker 1Right? All of these peptides and everything is gonna work so much better. Right? I know people who take gear and you would never know they take gear because
46:12Speaker 0they don't do anything else. Right? Such a good point because like we talk about it a lot, but like there's probably new listeners and there's a lot of you thinking this too. Like you steroids
46:25Speaker 0you are freaking shredded. It's so I love those comments because it's like, dude, you do not know what you are talking about. You have no clue what you're talking about. Like you get, if you take steroids and you're not like eating right, you get big and you get bloated because you gotta like eat right, man. You gotta eat right.
46:41Speaker 0Period. They are miracle drugs. You do everything else, right. If you do things right, they work really well. Same thing with peptides though. Like if you're taking peptides,
46:54Speaker 0you'll have your hormones in line and you're not eating right, they'll work a tiny, tiny bit. But like if you do all these things, right, hormones in line, eat them the disciplined diet,
47:04Speaker 0antique peptides, you're gonna get fricking ripped dude. Yep. We've seen rad transformations.
47:09Speaker 0Did you see the person that we put on to a warrior, that gal? That chick was like, wow. She looked amazing. Yeah. Yep. She works, dude. It's amazing. Dosages. Last thing we gotta get out get out of but I don't So minor, I would say that, 1st of all, also consistent
47:29Speaker 1than so more is not better. Right? It is all about starting consistent and doing it consistently. Now your body will build a tolerance, but like don't blow it out. Don't be like, oh, I'm a big person. I like to do lots of stuff. I'm just gonna start at the way higher dose. That's dumb and wrong and it won't be helpful. So about 20 micrograms
47:49Speaker 1is a good starting point. K? Here's your spectrum. 20, 80. 80 is for advanced users. I wouldn't go any more than that. 80 micrograms.
48:01Speaker 1and do that, and then you get to slowly kind of boost build up, right. And maybe reach up. I still wouldn't even touch 80. I'd still, I'd go over a 6 week period,
48:26Speaker 1daily. It's 20 to 30 hours in you, but still it's kind of nice to have to never be fully out of you. That's why you want to do it daily.
49:07Speaker 0So we get this question all the time. We'll end on this. If there was a peptide that you could take to get you buff, what would you take? Now there's not gonna be the 1 that's gonna,
49:35Speaker 0right? Eat some some glucose. If you're, you know, it's not the best on a high fat diet like me. Yeah. Sugar,
49:42Speaker 1a lot of carbs, and and just get after it. You'll get you'll get some science. And you'll green lean, you'll grow lean muscle. So I think this is like your best to like a cutter. Whereas I do think that MTA-four for- In
49:53Speaker 1itself, it's more of like a bulker because you're just going to be eating and you may gain a little water water. But as far as a, just a perfect cutter, that's going to gain the most amount of lean muscle possible with peptides. That's this is it.
50:05Speaker 0This is it. Cool, man. That was fun. Question answered. We'll never have to fill that question again. Yeah. It's a great it's a great peptide. It's not the most popular for some reason. I don't know why, but it's freaking great, especially because we that's 1 of the questions we get on every q and a. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to bulk.
50:43Speaker 1equals huge pumps. So before workout, huge pump. After the most muscle gain and then, or before a giant bad meal,
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