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0:09Speaker 0Welcome back everybody to the pep chat in the week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham, and right next to me, back home, I'm with my buddy, William T. Haws. What's up? What's up? What's up, Keith?
0:28Speaker 1I'm ready for new year. How about you? I'm ready for new year. I mean, it's been a great last year. I'm ready for It has been a great last year. It has been a really good last year and exciting and busy, but
0:39Speaker 1I don't know. Yeah. New year is always kind of refreshing. Right? Yeah. New new stuff, new goals, new new everything. Right? I know it's just a date, but
0:52Speaker 1Yeah. Whenever we want to, really. There's nobody saying that we have to wait till this stupid arbitrary date, but-
1:00Speaker 0It's kind cool to have it. It's kind of cool to have it, I guess. Yeah. I don't remember the success
1:11Speaker 0I always like Dig Man. I like when you when you go to the gym, like for the 1st 3 weeks, you're like, Dude, like, when's this going to die down? Yeah, no doubt. When you guys given up on your goals, damn it. Which sucks because we, you know, we want people to be successful. But unfortunately,
1:27Speaker 1people don't. Especially people who've had the same goal, most people have had the same goal for 10 years, right? Like,
1:33Speaker 1it still hasn't happened. I don't know. You know, some drastic changes need to happen. I know that, like, in my life,
1:48Speaker 1Best day to start working out. It was the day I'm going to stop. Right? I might as well go just go crazy right now. Yeah. Tomorrow,
2:00Speaker 0In enough pain. In enough miserable pain. So hopefully, yes, people are there in enough miserable pain. Humans do not change unless they're in enough pain. And that kind of sucks to say that, but it just is what it is. That's true. So did I guess? That's the truth. You know, and it's funny because, man, I don't know. I haven't talked about it, and I've been thinking about things lately and just life. And I always do some reflection at
2:23Speaker 0the coming of it in the year, think back and just how was the year? What do I want in the year to come? And
2:35Speaker 0so much catching up, I think, to the right perspective, at least where I'm supposed to be now, which is like,
2:45Speaker 0you know, are positive, be around people that like, want to do big shit. And like, I don't want to be around anybody that you know. I don't want to be around anybody that's like just comfortable with just being comfortable. You know what I mean? Like, that stuff's contagious and like, man, it's never been more vivid and more just real
3:00Speaker 1than the last couple years in particular, man. Yeah. Yeah. And people who don't complicate my life. Yeah. Unnecessarily.
3:08Speaker 0Like like just like positivity vampires or like, you know, they will just suck the life out of you. They come in, you're like, oh, dude. Here they here they come. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think it comes with maybe just being older.
3:32Speaker 1it comes with some independence too. Like, hey, feel more more, I don't know, content with
3:48Speaker 0etcetera. Right? And it's easy to cut them out. That's funny you say that. I, the, my podcast I did in Cabo, you know, on my personal night, I literally said that exact same thing about
4:01Speaker 0comfortability in yourself and not having to be around a lot of friends or whatnot is liberation. When you literally do not give a shit what anybody thinks anymore,
4:09Speaker 0that's true liberation. True liberation. It's true liberation. It's true just living where you don't care what anybody thinks. I guess that comes with age. I don't know. Maybe we're both on that same part. And I think that, right, it comes with age. I think it and a lot of other liberation,
4:28Speaker 1those of you who are still on their mother's, like, phone bills or their parents' phone bills, right? Get off it. I've been working with somebody to be like, hey,
4:37Speaker 1you're a grown up. Like, you don't need to call for permission anymore- Yeah. And just separate it. Cut that umbilical cord. Yeah.
4:44Speaker 1Life will be a lot easier too when you just take control of some shit and just quit relying on other people.
4:52Speaker 1Because you can't. And so so so a lot of those a lot of that that ability comes with with finances
5:07Speaker 0Yeah. I know. Money doesn't buy happiness. I do have a bigger bank account, to be honest with you. I've had both. So Right. Absolutely.
5:14Speaker 1You know? Well, tell, you know, tell a poor person that money doesn't buy happiness. Yeah. Right. Tell them money isn't everything. Like, money does
5:22Speaker 1money does help a whole lot. Stress. Stress sucks. Yeah. I mean, number 1 reasons that race relationships fall apart is sex and money. Yeah. Pink and green is what we like to call them. Very true. Very true, man. But that is generally the,
5:42Speaker 1So give it up, ladies, and make some money. In this world. Just joking. And then I guess in world worldwide, it's religion. Right? It's the other. True. Huge, massive
5:57Speaker 1And, I mean, I guess, mass deaths are probably religions the most to blame. Yeah. Not a specific religion. Just everybody else just believing they're believing they're right. Yeah. Really, which is My way of just like pride. It's not Good. Ego. That's the biggest problem. I'm right. How do you know? I don't know. I just do it. I don't know. I just put I'm right. Since since you're wrong, you got it. True.
6:19Speaker 1Anyway, dude, yeah, I don't know. Like, I am happy with the new year. It's cool. I guess it is a the financial clock
6:39Speaker 1to roll out new policies for business and things that you've been wanting to do. Oh, yeah.
6:50Speaker 1Usually, those are a good thing maybe that people have been dragging their feet on. I know we have a few. So
7:04Speaker 0which we love and we love. You guys had some good questions today. I'm gonna always kick it off to Will because he likes to start us off. Let me put my glasses on so I can read. Don't don't judge me. Nah, it's all. Go for it. No, it's okay. All right.
7:49Speaker 0Now we're assuming, or I should say I'm assuming, but that he he or she, you don't say,
7:59Speaker 0and then Tesamorelin at night. I'm assuming that's what he means instead of like taking them together. Yeah. Probably and hopefully. Hopefully. Right? Because that's what we have recommended because I do that. So let's go ahead and just answer it in that way. So yeah. Okay. Well, 1st of all, here's what I recommended is is I just always think if you're gonna take an HGH secretagogue,
9:00Speaker 1there is no problem with taking these together. Now I think I do think that taking Tesamorelin,
9:07Speaker 1in the evening and growth hormone in the morning is the best way to do it. Growth hormone
9:33Speaker 1works on your ghrelin receptor and just kind of it just increases your growth hormone pulses,
9:46Speaker 1there's a thing called somatostatin, which is a pumps the brakes when our body goes, hey, we have way too much IGF-one,
9:59Speaker 1and your body will recognize, Hey, wow, we have all this H we have this IGF-one, it might start pumping the brakes. And the only thing it pumps the brakes on, the only thing that it can stop
10:23Speaker 1the somatostatin is increased there, and it's gonna blunt the pituitary from making more. Now that does not that blunting effect does not affect the ipamorelin. Ipamorelin is not the thing that is creating the growth hormone. It's just amplifying
10:50Speaker 1typical growth hormone uses. The other thing Tesamorelin is FDA approved for is to burn belly fat. Okay? And it also helps improve sleep. Those 2 things will not be affected
11:15Speaker 1which is like the golden ticket. We don't want that. Yeah. I mean, for years, everybody's been saying, like, how do I just burn fat? How do I spot burn fat? Like and the answer is, you can't.
11:37Speaker 1there is your answer. There is nothing bad about them? Like like like, there's gonna be no
11:45Speaker 1They're not gonna be really bad together. It just may blunt just that Tesamorelin effect
11:51Speaker 0it creating more growth hormone. Yeah, you might wanna run the test of IpA, which we've recommended often.
11:57Speaker 0So to kind of combat that too, because IpA and the HGH will go well together. And I don't even think we even addressed that. So Somatropin for people don't know is HGH. That's your human growth hormone.
12:19Speaker 0As Will says, it burns that belly fat and I sleep like crap. It's So it helps out, right? I'm tired right now. There you go. All right, I'm up. All right. Wife is post pregnancy after 1 year. Had her on Reta and great results. Down 20 pounds in 2 months. Great. She's 27 and five'eleven and
12:38Speaker 0eating good and strength training 3 days a week. Just can't seem to shake the baby belly fat. Pooch.
12:46Speaker 0any thoughts on other angles to attack this area so she can get her trim waistline back? Thanks for the info. Many blessings your way. Good question.
13:09Speaker 0Will and I were actually talking about this off camera about something else, but this works well for this.
13:16Speaker 0is like, you're gonna burn 50 pounds you're gonna lose 50 pounds in 1 month. So many people are just it is a scientific breakthrough, but man, people are just expecting sometimes too much from them. She's been out for 2 months. Go slow. I think that you're running well, man. She's doing great. Just kind of keep going. I think you can add in the Tesamorelin
13:50Speaker 0So that would be my answer for you. And again, I just wanna kinda just just it's been 2 months. Just give it some time, man. She's 20
13:57Speaker 0pounds. Amazing. Just go slow and she will lose that, I promise you. Yeah. But that's my answer. What do you got? I would agree. You know, he said, hey. Is there any
14:15Speaker 1I don't think that anything worth saying she's probably breastfeeding, hopefully. After a year. He says after a year. Oh, I'm sorry. She's a year. Oh, okay. My bad. So then forget what I just said. I think that everything you said is great and just,
14:27Speaker 1yeah, be consistent with the nutrition and training and that belt. Like, sorry, we lose weight. Like, that little belly fat pooch is the last thing to go. Yep. Guess what? Alcohol, by the way, too. I don't know if she's drinking, but if
14:41Speaker 1you those of you who have developed fat like that, alcohol fat is the fat that's right around your belly button and then starts growing out from there. Okay? Just FYI.
14:51Speaker 1That and that belly fat's the last part to go. So name of the game is just gonna be consistency
15:02Speaker 0Good job on you, girl. Yeah. No doubt. 20 pounds is too much. Good job. That's awesome. Alright, brother. Got to Alright. Sup, warriors? Do you guys have any thoughts on liver health peptides?
15:17Speaker 1MOTS-nine, AOD, etcetera, all the fat burning toxins get filtered through your liver and may affect your ALTAST.
15:31Speaker 1a full full vial, and it has helped maintain my AST at a normal level. ALT is still high,
15:38Speaker 1not far from the range, but I would like it to be in a healthy range. What do you guys think about Ovagen or Levagen peptides?
15:49Speaker 1being used and not sure if it will help. I will be taking a sonogram to further my research. I'll let you guys know my findings. Thanks for your time
16:05Speaker 1I will leave 1st of all, we're not doctors, and so we are not here trying to give too much
16:11Speaker 1advice. It sounds like you some of you know what you're doing. You're doing And, all the right
16:17Speaker 1that when we burn a lot of fat, it needs to kinda go somewhere, and some of that bad that's bad. Right?
16:23Speaker 1There's toxins in there. So it needs to get out of you, and those things get you know, go through your liver
16:43Speaker 1have read up on some of them, personally have not used them, but and have and have had some you know, have talked to some people about them.
16:57Speaker 1the things that we know to help cleanse your liver are better than those. Right? They're definitely not gonna, like, fix those issues. Glutathione is probably the best thing you possibly could can do, and so you did you did that. The sonogram's a good idea also. And happily, you know, tell us what you tell us those
17:25Speaker 1The liver like, I don't know. If we're talking about, like, rebuilding your liver, your liver and your gums are like 2 tissues in the body that doesn't really grow back. Now we used to think that neurotransmitters
17:38Speaker 1So so it could be a little bit wrong with that. I mean, science is we're still learning stuff, but
17:45Speaker 1I don't know. I think the MOTS C is awesome. Actually, I think I would continue MOTS C and SS-thirty 1 because those are just gonna increase your mitochondrial health and your cell. NAD plus would be a really it would be also a good thing to add in There
18:33Speaker 1Yeah, man. I just that's about all I have to say on that without going too normal or too in-depth in trying to-
18:41Speaker 0Be a doctor. Tell you what to do or be a doctor. Yeah, I don't want to do that. Sounds like you've done some research too. I think, I mean, kind of going back to what we talked about before, I mean, everybody just wants to lose all this weight so fast. And like there's a health there's an unhealthy way to lose that. I mean, you're going to
18:59Speaker 0has to filter it and it'll go through your liver. So you know what I mean? Slow, go slow, and you didn't gain all the weight
19:16Speaker 1Yep. All right, you're up next. Where are Where are we at here? Potts. Short run, 2 lines. What peptides
20:04Speaker 0Again, we want to like make this clear because we have been dinged on YouTube a bit, and we're trying to just help most we can. We're not doctors, so let's make that clear.
20:13Speaker 0But I, if you were a family member, here's how I would treat it. I treat the symptoms, right? You have brain fog. You have fatigue,
20:41Speaker 0So those would be what I would recommend, and I'm always going to recommend these 3 with people that are dealing with stuff like that, which was going to be TA-one,
20:49Speaker 0Thymosin Alpha-one because it's for immunity. It's great for bringing down inflammation, and that's good for everybody.
20:56Speaker 0BPC-one hundred 57 for gut and TB-five 100, TB-four 0 4, which is going to be for tissue repair and just those- Inflammation. All of those, right? So is that going to cure your problem? Probably not, but it can help the symptoms. That's how I attack that sort You of did say that, hey, you know, somebody like, Tirzepatide
21:19Speaker 1it Tirzepatide can kind of lower, like, systemically lower inflammation a little bit, and that is why that
21:27Speaker 1could have helped that person. But as I have done some research, I wasn't very familiar with with POTS, but
21:35Speaker 1Looks like Gyzepatide A, it might help some people, right, but it might worsen others, especially if you aren't
22:03Speaker 1is really like, there's some blood pooling. Right? That's why you're gonna feel dizzy is because blood isn't getting to your head. Yeah. So
22:23Speaker 1What are some what are some MOTS c s s 31, right, to just help with your cellular energy and
22:32Speaker 1I think all of those are potential answers that can help. But, again and again, I guess that's what I would say to somebody, to my family, say, hey. Why don't you give some of these things a try and see what happens? They sure as hell there is no way that we're gonna say this is the answer to your problem. Yeah.
22:54Speaker 0I'm gonna tell you if it were me personally, I would rather take any type of peptides or any type of pharmaceutical.
23:02Speaker 0For for most case. More choices. I'm just not a huge pharmaceutical guy. Yep. Not anymore.
23:07Speaker 1Alright. No. It's either you or me? Me. You're up. Alright. So I love your podcast. Thanks to all you do. I'm a 45 year or 44 year old female.
23:24Speaker 1fruit and veggies with the occasional sweet or ice cream. Me too. Don't drink or any of that. Lift heavy. No stranger to the gym as an athlete seeing my body come back after having my last baby of 42. Ew.
23:37Speaker 1Trying to get more muscle back. Right? I think with the help of peptides, I can be stacked in my forties. Currently doing HRT,
24:04Speaker 110 mg dose, about 15 mg, 3 to 4 times a week. Thinking I need to go up with the Tesa. Thoughts?
24:11Speaker 1Looking to put on muscle bikini model look. Should I up my calories and carbs to grow muscles plus higher Tesa dose, or do you see anything in my current stack protocol I should change?
24:35Speaker 1and it'll just make it that much more effective. Now you're at 1 mg, 1000 micrograms a day in the Tesa. I mean, different people it's fun. Different people have different tolerances for this.
24:46Speaker 1The 1 thing that we know and we see is, you know, people can if you increase that dose a little too much, you start you can start retaining water. So that's a good sign that
25:03Speaker 1frankly, is kind of a is pretty darn good dose of that. And as a female base at you're at 150 pounds,
25:36Speaker 1for men, for peptides, there's just not that many great peptides to put on a bunch of muscle. They're
25:41Speaker 1just not strong enough. They are not steroids, and they're just not gonna affect you hormonally strong enough. But women are affected a lot easier.
25:50Speaker 1so you have a good chance there. And you know the drill. Like, it sounds like you know what you're doing. Right?
25:56Speaker 1Eat food. Do you need to eat more carbs to put on muscle? Yeah. Probably. You also need to eat fat to put on muscle. You need to eat carbs in conjunction with protein, though. So like just as a rule, don't ever eat carbs alone.
26:10Speaker 1Okay? Don't eat no need for just eating carbs. If you're gonna eat carbs, cool. You can have higher amount of carbs with your protein and let them go down the hatch at the same time.
26:21Speaker 1More frequent protein intake definitely before bed. That's when we build all of our muscle. Right? Is right is is while we're sleeping. Why? Because that's when our growth hormone
26:36Speaker 1no stress, nothing. And it finally can just do the things it's been, you know, it's putting on the back burner to do.
26:45Speaker 1converting that into long term memory, and adding muscle. So I don't know. You you seem to be in just
26:52Speaker 1She didn't say the time frame. Right? You didn't say time frame, but even for a for a for a man, like, putting on, like, 2 pounds of muscle
27:03Speaker 1Right? Unless you're super skinny and you're just and you haven't done anything ever ever before and, you know, you're 30 years old, then you start just blasting a bunch of steroids, you're gonna gain more muscle than that. But
27:18Speaker 1Okay? It will come back since you're an athlete. 42 is about a good age too. Right? Metabolism slowed down a little bit, 44.
27:26Speaker 1And you can put some more muscle on. But maybe, I don't know, I like SLU-p in your position. You're gonna do want it for muscle on. We gotta stay lean too. Right? Absolutely. And that will help with the nutrient partitioning. That will really just so will IGF-1LR-three.
27:45Speaker 0That's all I got for that. So you were thinking so you were thinking keeper at the the the milligram.
27:54Speaker 0Oh, you you said that. I thought you said Retta. I was No. No. I did not say Retta. I hope I did not. I didn't mean Retta, and I didn't even address retta. So go ahead. I thought you did. Okay. So I was gonna say, I don't know. Yeah, you can always 1 mg of retta is super low, with super low. So you can always tweak that a little bit. You know? Like Will said, gaining muscle is great, but you also want to get lean. Right? Getting lean, you look more ripped anyway.
28:22Speaker 0is amazing. I love it. Oh, man, I love it. I love it. I love it. I would do that and I would add in 1 of my favorites, which is AOD.
28:34Speaker 0I've literally witnessed it. I'm a bride and man, it worked fast. So AOD and Tesamorelin,
28:40Speaker 0you can definitely go up in the Tesamorelin. I think she's taking what, 1 mg? Definitely. Take 2. Try it. Just see how it goes.
28:48Speaker 0I wish that you told the timeframe that you were working with because again, I wanna reiterate that fact, man.
28:58Speaker 0Focus on your diet, diet, diet, diet. We love taking peptides and we love taking things to expedite
29:14Speaker 0and you don't elaborate super on it, but yeah, man, just diet's huge, so make sure you're eating that. And I would say as you're coming into a new year, I know ice cream's great. I've been eating a lot of it. I was on vacation with my family and I'm pretty disciplined and it was amazing. But we're coming into the new year and I'm going back to carnivore in T minus 2 days.
29:33Speaker 0I love the discipline of it. People love that content anyway, so I'm going to be getting into it.
29:39Speaker 0But I would say, if you listen to this, I would say, write it down, man. Write your goals down. What are your exact goals? I'm huge on putting goals on paper. You're making a contract with yourself. You're literally physically getting it out of you and you put it on paper and there's something powerful about that. What is your exact weight? What is your exact goal? And I would say for at least a month, cut out that ice cream, cut it out. You're going to see huge changes and you can cut the sugar out. So, you know, sugar,
30:13Speaker 1it's like it's like basically cutting out alcohol, which frankly is the same thing. Yeah. You're cutting out 100%. Because alcohol turns sugar. But like, y'all probably start peeing a bunch of water. You'll loo you'll look a whole lot leaner, and you'll feel better. I mean, everything will just look better.
30:26Speaker 0Mean, we were talking thinking fast. Yeah. We were talking about it. Like, again, I wanna like, it's so important because I think we need to talk about it even more is this. Peptides are amazing. TRT is amazing, but diet is amazing. Fasting is amazing.
30:42Speaker 0So write that stuff down. Try that. Try to cut out the sugar for a month. I have seen huge transformations without peptides
30:49Speaker 0through my fitness program when I did just carnivore diet, and I saw people drop weight like and just get because as Will said, they drop sugar. When you drop out sugar, your body's like, Woah, and it shocks the hell out of it. Yeah, yeah. Because we are addicted to sugar. So try some of that too, my dear. Hope that helps. Yep. Probably won't be looking for I mean, it's crazy how that affects our brain too. Right? Even in your life, you won't be looking
31:15Speaker 1That's all there. I mean, that's what we are doing with sugar. It's like, damn. It just makes us feel good here Oh, it is. Immediately.
31:24Speaker 1right, the more you forget it and the more you get used to delaying instant gratification. Yeah. It's a muscle. You're like, I don't need it. I don't need anything. It happens. And we led this off by what's freeing. Right? That's freeing. Yeah. Yeah. It's liberation, baby. And we all have vices, though. I'm not perfect. I say this, but, like, there's plenty of things that, yeah,
31:47Speaker 1So I'm not trying to preach at anybody, but I do know I've cut some I have cut a lot of things out of my life
31:53Speaker 0at different times, and I know the freeing feeling. So Power of no. There's power of no. Absolutely. Telling yourself no. All right.
32:03Speaker 0in a fasted state? If you do for some, but not all, which ones would you say are better to take while fasted
32:16Speaker 0I mean, I would say if you can take fasted, take most fasted. I take them I mean, I fast so much, but I take them 1st thing in the morning. You want to definitely take HGH in the morning.
32:37Speaker 0Ones that I don't think matter so much are going to be like injuries. So, if you're if like for my back surgery,
32:47Speaker 0hundred or the BPC for an injury, I don't think it matters too much for injuries and skincare. So, if you're taking a GHK CU,
32:55Speaker 0like at night, like I do, I don't think it matters so much in regards to a fasted stay. However,
33:19Speaker 1But just even the digestive pathway, when our food is digesting food, that's also where those if we're taking it at the same time, the peptides are trying to get into us, right, there
33:32Speaker 1the peptides may just kind of, Nope, we're not absorbing lots of you. Oh, not as good. We have food coming. Spending a lot of money on them, so- Absolutely. Do them well. Right. And so make the most of them. But he's right. He's right. Everything there are some that really are important to be fasted and then some that aren't aren't that important. Yeah.
33:50Speaker 1Hello. I believe in the past you'd mentioned okay. So I answered this question accidentally
33:59Speaker 1but hello. I'll I'll still read it and say that. I believe in the past you'd mentioned running
34:04Speaker 1GH and Tesamorelin at the same time. Can you talk through whether this is worth it or not? If there's any risk raising the somatostatin
34:22Speaker 1Just curious. No need to contact me. Just thought it might be a good question. Love the q and a. Love the channel.
34:29Speaker 1You I've only been ever been take I've only ever taken put tags that have been that have already been reconstituted
35:04Speaker 1Now, yeah, the 1st part of that question, I think I answered it at the beginning. You were getting mixed up with somatropin.
35:14Speaker 1the 1st question was the sec was also this question. Yeah. They they blended together. The same thing. Very similar. In
35:41Speaker 1Yep. The more that goes up, hey, our body goes, oh, we got a lot. And it increases and it releases some somatostatin,
35:48Speaker 1which says, hey, let's not take any more. Okay? What that's not gonna blunt that sure that ain't gonna block if you just keep putting more growth hormone in, sorry, they can't block that. Yeah. Yeah. Because that is just that is the actual hormone it's giving to you. What it can block is Tesamorelin's
36:06Speaker 1which Tesamorelin's telling pituitary to make more growth hormone. And they can say, No, no, no. Blunt. Let's stop doing that alone. We're good. Yeah. Yeah. We're good. So don't make so much. So I don't know if that cleared anything up, but,
36:35Speaker 0And if so, what I inject into the bottom of the foot? My mom is 65 years old and she is underweight.
36:42Speaker 0Her goal is to gain muscle. She does strength training 4 times a week. She weighs 130 pounds.
36:56Speaker 0What do you recommend for her? Next year, my husband and I are going to try for baby number 2 and I heard I need to go off of peptides
37:04Speaker 0for a couple months before we start trying. I'm on a stack of Retta, AOD, Tesamorelin and NAD plus
37:14Speaker 0I don't want to gain a bunch of weight once I'm off. I'm down 50 pounds and I'm afraid I'll gain back once I go off. Good questions. Quite a lot, quite a few of them. You want me to take that? Yeah, go ahead. I'll add Yeah, to so for the foot problem,
37:29Speaker 0here's the thing. I think that the Wolverine is great. I love it. It's definitely 1 of my favorites.
37:45Speaker 0I'm not going to inject in my foot. I definitely don't think that you should tell your mother to inject in her foot. That would hurt like a mother. So you can kind of do it up here. Subcued by the ankle type area
37:55Speaker 0is where I would probably do it. I'll give you an example. When I did had my back surgery and I took a ton of it, I didn't do it in my back because my back was swollen and I was taped up. So I did it subcued on my stomach, and it worked great. So you have the TB that travels really well. So
38:15Speaker 0Do I think she should put it in her foot? Absolutely not. Sub Q by the ankle is my answer on that. Now, for the baby,
38:32Speaker 0The simplest answer, and I can know I can answer for Will, because we've answered this numerous times. When it comes to children, babies in your belly, especially if they're not here yet, just on the side of caution, man. Like, I get it. You don't want to lose
38:45Speaker 0your weight back, but let's enforce some discipline, right? And let's not go back to if you
38:55Speaker 0But for the peptides, my answer will be this. Put them on hold for a bit. They'll be here when you get back.
39:00Speaker 0Do I think that it would affect the baby? I actually don't think it probably would. But why even risk it? If there's any chance that it might,
39:12Speaker 0You can get on some Retta when you gain that weight for the baby, right? And you can lose that weight really quickly.
39:30Speaker 1I mean, hell, you don't wanna lose too much weight. We know that your woman's body fat percentage is is too low. You're not getting pregnant. Yeah.
39:38Speaker 1God says you don't have enough food on you to feed another person, so you don't get to ovulate and be pregnant. But,
39:47Speaker 1Joe, there's there's just other potential complications you don't wanna just don't even just please don't do it. That kid has to live, you know, 80,
40:01Speaker 1Yeah. From this. Yes. He is right. Like, all of these all of these so you get you lost 50 pounds, and that kicks ass. Good for you. Hopefully,
40:13Speaker 1are building good habits. Right? And this is you know, your stomach you eat less, and your stomach starts to shrink down. You just and now, like like, to get used to those damn habits. Right?
40:23Speaker 1Build on those habits and and use it. So then when you come off, how about you just wean off instead of just go stop cold turkey so it makes it easier to maintain
40:38Speaker 1You won't be able to eat as much because your stomach has shrunk a little bit, and that's a good thing. But, yes, the hunger may come back a little bit. But like you said, just just try to buckle down and use a little bit of willpower. You spend a lot of work, but it's a little bit more.
40:52Speaker 1There's a lot of things you can do to help yourself building good habits, like not keeping your house stocked with anything that is
40:58Speaker 1bad. Yeah. Planning ahead. Don't go shopping hungry. Don't go shopping hungry. Right. Absolutely. Sounds silly, but it's true. It is very true. Plan ahead. You know, we make bad decisions when we're hungry and it's too late. We don't have time.
41:11Speaker 1Right? And then when you get stuck, you're like, screw it. I just gotta I gotta do what I gotta do. So don't let yourself get into those positions.
41:24Speaker 0those habits that we don't talk about much, those little things that, you know, we both have been working with with people on diets for most of our lives, it's been something we just love.
41:34Speaker 0Those little things, especially when I'm coaching somebody and I'm talking about fasting, because I get so many questions about fasting,
41:39Speaker 0I tell everybody, Think through it. Use your brain. Think through it. If I'm going to eat at a certain time, like what I would do when I 1st was fasting, if I was going to eat at a wedding and I knew I was going to have to eat later, I would fast until 5 long before even I would fast till 5. So I knew I'd have to eat until 12 because I'd never ate out of an 8 hour window. I just thought through it though. Like, think through it. Don't go shopping if you're hungry because you know you're gonna wanna get those damn burritos because they look good when you're hungry. You know, we're all human. So little things like that, man, they are freaking huge in regards to those disciplines.
42:14Speaker 1Your mom is 65, and she wants to gain 15 pounds of muscle. It's not gonna happen. I'm sorry.
42:20Speaker 1of all, for just for a woman, that's incredibly hard, and that's gotta take at least a year or 2. And for a 65 year old woman, it's just probably not gonna happen. Yeah. So but she can gain as much muscle as she can, and I definitely think, like, Tessa Ipamore is, like Yeah. Is the way to go. It will help help just even maybe even, like, what you're say, HGH. Right? Not only that, it'll help just keep muscle or put muscle on. It'll help re strengthen our bones as we get older. Right? Yeah. You really you know, people old people, you hear of them breaking hips. This will really help. Yeah. Osteoporosis
43:08Speaker 0That's all correct. Good luck on that baby. We're rooting for you. Yeah. Absolutely. Don't talk to my wife. She she wants another 1.
43:14Speaker 10, yeah. Don't inject to the bottom of the foot. No. No. No. No. No. No. You could sub q inject, though, pretty close like your ankle. Right? Just, like, pull some skin out. Just
43:24Speaker 1and and get the needle underneath there. But, like, the bottom of your foot, a, it's you
43:29Speaker 1might bend the needle if your feet look like the bottom of my feet. Right? Like, there. There it's tough. Uh-huh. You also, the bottom of your feet are dirty, and they will continue to get dirty. And you don't wanna make an open wound there. There's infection risk.
43:52Speaker 1of any peptide right there. So just don't do that. It'll travel it'll travel well enough, especially if you put it in your ankle. It'll probably you can work sub q in your stomach. So, yeah, don't do that.
44:02Speaker 1My bum. Alright. My up. You're up reading. Alright. No. No. I am. My bad. So, hey, guys. Love the q and a and peptides of the week.
44:11Speaker 1Y'all are doing the Lord's work and are a wealth of knowledge. So question. I had a I had great results with Reta for 8 weeks and decided to switch over to OmegaTide for 8 weeks.
44:21Speaker 1I noticed right away the hunger signal was more of a volume fader versus a volume off switch and was definitely hungrier more often.
44:29Speaker 1Had I not kept discipline up, I probably would have gained weight, but noticed I maintained the same weight over 8 weeks. My question is I'm back on Retta now but noticing the same high hunger signals.
44:50Speaker 1Should I up my weekly dose until I feel the hunger volume drop significantly, or should I take a break and restart?
44:58Speaker 1could help turn down the hunger signal since GLP-three isn't really an appetite off switch. True.
45:07Speaker 1I'm taking that I'm running. So Wolverine stack daily, KPV, GHK, CU daily, MOTS C, it's every 3 days. Tesamorelin
45:28Speaker 1tides, so Retta, yeah, Retta is a triple agonist and is not. The goal there is not appetite suppression.
45:35Speaker 1K? You actually do get hunger. You feel those you feel a little bit of the hunger noise is maybe it's reduced a little bit. But Yeah. Omegatide
45:54Speaker 1What is happening and no, you should not increase your renin thing. So what is happening is the the our body wants an appetite. Okay, naturally. This is how we survive is this constant search for food, right? Look at anybody's dog. Goal number 1, eat food. Yeah. Right? Humans, we've evolved a little bit more, but that's
46:21Speaker 1So when that happens, it dampens it. Our survival instinct tries to push harder through. Right? So now our body's going, no, let's try get hungry. Let's make ourselves hungry. Make ourselves hungry.
46:31Speaker 1And now you took out the really hard dampener, and you went back to Retta, which isn't that much of a dampener on appetite. Mhmm. But this guy is still raging. So what used to work, you just basically
46:45Speaker 1right, by increasing your hunger on yourself. Okay? So now your body's really trying to be hungry because
47:13Speaker 1so should you increase your RET at dose until that hunger noise is gone? No. Answer is no. It's not meant for that. It's not gonna help by increasing your dose. She there's even studies that ironically
47:32Speaker 1but that's what some of the settings says. But no, do not just increase your Retta dose. Okay?
47:48Speaker 1the tolerance is not gonna change. It's just going to mess up your current metabolic rhythm, which is good because you've been making, you've been doing results. Like the whole point of ret is to take consistently.
48:01Speaker 1If you go off, it's gonna throw in some just, I don't know, speed bumps in your metabolic rhythm, and you're not gonna get on that domino effect of continuing to burn fat and being healthier.
48:12Speaker 1So and only if you stop for 6 months to a year will maybe the tolerance reset. K? It's not happening in a matter of weeks, but months and several months.
49:02Speaker 1people have had a lot of success pairing that 1 with Retta. I think Retta should be taking it pretty at a decently low dose.
49:20Speaker 1we talked about. Right? Let's all check our foundational priorities. Okay? And that what that means is
49:35Speaker 1Right? And and and by the way, person who you just talked in hormone yeah. Right. And hormonal regulation. But you've you have now you've switched on to Retta, right, and gone 8 weeks with maintaining
49:49Speaker 1your weight loss and your discipline. So, like, you're you're kicking ass, by the way. I will say that we should congratulate you for doing literally everything right.
50:10Speaker 0I think it's important that we again talk about the fact that 8 weeks, so you were on it, Retatrutide for 8 weeks, and then you switched. But you were doing good for 8 weeks. Why? That's what I would be wondering. So why? If you were doing well and you were enjoying the Reta, why did you switch? Right? 8 weeks is a very short time for any change in life. It's
50:35Speaker 0can start to focus so much more on the discipline of our minds and just changing the way and just like what
50:43Speaker 0I'm seeing in a lot of questions and talking with so many people these days, everybody wants to build the 2nd Floor. They want to jump to the 2nd Floor and build the house where we've got to work on the base. The base is your daily
51:04Speaker 0foundation is built in 8 weeks. Nothing, right? So 8 weeks is nothing. I mean, so I would just say that you were doing well, why'd you jump? Right? Focus on that. You were doing so well, like, why do you want to change it? So keep going. You're not going to lose
51:18Speaker 0100 pounds in 8 weeks. You know, again, we see people and we've been talking to people and they hear all these stories and stuff. It's not going to happen. It's great. Retrite TED is amazing.
51:33Speaker 0that's my answer. Well, you already kind of took the reins and answered it the proper way, but I just wanted to chime in. If something's working,
51:41Speaker 1Yep. And your Retta is still working. Okay. It is. You're burning fat. You're burning fat. Food noise, like the Retta at your dose is working
51:50Speaker 1at a metabolic level. So just keep going, man. You've already actually said, Hey, I've exercised discipline and been fine for 8 weeks. Well, shit, just,
51:58Speaker 1you know, you get to kinda exercise a little bit less and less discipline the longer you longer you do it. So
52:09Speaker 0yeah, tighten up through other things. And you wanna That's be hungry, just that's great. You don't wanna not be hungry. Hungry's great. Just like, Retatrutide is good because it just, you should eat less. You want to eat. You don't want to not eat. You want to eat less.
52:38Speaker 0The influencer was making a case against using the product and even made the claim that it could cause cancer.
52:50Speaker 1Thanks for everything that you do. So I'll chime in like that dude, I don't know what his name is, but the influencer,
52:56Speaker 0that dude's sharp. Okay. Yeah, I know who he is. He's great. I love him. Like argument and
53:24Speaker 1okay, with those estradiol like kind of based receptors. And they did a study on rats or mice with Carderene
53:32Speaker 1where they gave something like 80 times the human dose to these rats. Long time ago too. And it was a long, long time ago. And it's all over. Right? But they gave 80 times what you would give to a human, to a mouse,
53:54Speaker 1probably bad. Give me way less water than that. I'll die for sure. Protein, I'll die. Advil, I'll die. Yeah.
54:09Speaker 1because cauteryne maybe did that, then SLU-three is the same. He is saying that there are specific pathways that some cancers
54:25Speaker 1everybody just do I don't know. Do your thing. I'm not saying yes or no, but I'm not gonna
54:30Speaker 1but I still take it, and I'm not that worried about it. I put far less far worse things in my body. I firmly think that
54:40Speaker 1will probably give you cancer a lot faster. And, there's a bunch of shit that will kill you a lot faster.
54:48Speaker 0I I I don't remember that guy's name. I know he's great. I've actually just started following him. So he's great. And like, we don't pretend to know everything, but my take on it is this.
54:59Speaker 0that have talked about human growth hormone alone have talked about cancer forever. My take on it and my studies on it is I disagree with it. In moderation, like I use small amounts,
55:08Speaker 0which I consider small amounts. You know, use small amounts. Now, if you take 10 for a very long time, that could cause problems.
55:26Speaker 0What I think is more what Will just said, think you should worry about Doritos more than you should worry about SLU. You know, the crappy, poisonous food we eat is causing cancer. The sugary seed oils,
55:40Speaker 0is like people talk about so many supplements, like chains of amino acids and things like that. But like, how about the freaking food that people are eating, man? Like, worry about that stuff more. So- Wearing a seatbelt more. You know I mean? So there's a lot of what ifs. Why? There's no chance you get murdered, you get killed today in a car accident. I love SLU-3. I take it. I'm not gonna stop. I mean, there could be a lot of things that cause cancer.
56:00Speaker 0If you eat healthy, you fast a lot. Why don't you try fasting? If you fast, it lowers your chances of cancer dramatically.
56:15Speaker 0dramatically, dramatically lower your chances of getting cancer. We are not supposed to eat as much food. Fasting has been around since Jesus walked the earth for a reason because your body needs to reboot. Your mind needs to reboot. Fasting is rebooting your entire system, your digestive system,
56:34Speaker 1So do that. Fast. Do some stuff. SLU-3. I'm gonna say my answer is I don't worry about it. Hope that helps. Personally, I would not worry about it. Yeah. But I don't but I am not you, and you need to make you need to do what you do. Right?
56:59Speaker 1right. Like, anything I do is causing cancer, even it's dead for me, and I'm gonna die because of it. Yeah. But that's- I feel pretty good. But I feel okay. I feel pretty good.
57:10Speaker 1And, you know, and I just don't think I mean, I really I don't think but I'm not a doctor, and I'm not a, you know, full time researcher,
57:19Speaker 1but I just don't think that there is enough compelling evidence that says, like, there there and he even said in his thing, like, there is no direct correlation. I'm not I am not making this Yeah. That direct correlation. So
57:32Speaker 0There it is. We don't know everything, but we know we see a lot of people trying different things and all that. But anything else before you wanna take us out?
57:42Speaker 0Mm-mm. No. Happy New Year. Better be safe. Yeah. Happy New Year. This will come out after New Year, but happy New Year, and let's kick some ass in 2026,
57:51Speaker 1Yep. Everybody kick some ass. Take care. Put your goals down. I like that. Yeah. Actually writing them. Make a contract That's a with lot.