Ep 70 · 55:01
Full transcript
Machine transcribed. Not yet read against the audio.
Research use only
Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Nothing here is a protocol to follow — amounts, timing and cycle lengths are reported as the named speaker described them.
We are not doctors. Use at your own risk.
0:09Speaker 0And this space starts with ultra fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally,
0:19Speaker 0and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com.
0:39Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I am your host, JD Dental across the way looking dapper. As always, my buddy,
0:47Speaker 1business partner, and friend, Mr. Williams. What's up? T Haas. How are doing, buddy? I'm good, man. Good to be How's life? I was like, I thinking.
1:12Speaker 2I can't get right. And then we just go hang out in the hotel for the, for the night, go in the pool. Yeah. Staycation
1:57Speaker 1and all the above. So we're gonna dig into that more. I know everybody loves that subject and the questions just keep rolling in on that subject.
2:12Speaker 1So we will talk some of that stuff. Yeah, it's very, very, very common. So we wanna take you guys and shake you. And so anyways, Doctor. Tyler, welcome to the show. My brother. Great to be here. Really impressive,
2:28Speaker 1an honor to be here. It's good to have you on the show, man. You've seen some of the growth and that's been cool. You've kind of seen from the inception to where it's at. You know, we call it God's hands for sure. He's kind of putting his hand on this thing, but it's because we talk about subjects that need to be talked about. It's just the truth. Men's health needs to be talked about. I mean, all the above. Finally. All the above. You know, we're going to talk about some testosterone. Don't want to dive headfirst in, but why don't we?
3:10Speaker 1in fitness and getting blood work done. I was blown away. I mean, I'd had like young 30 year olds with
3:17Speaker 1super low testosterone. I was blown away about that. Why would you say that is? That's a
3:57Speaker 3You notice, you hear stories about farmers and old guys out on farms who don't have all the exposure to the stuff we have
4:19Speaker 3A multitude of things. And if someone that happens every time, why is my why is my testosterone so low? We can't say there's no lab test to say it's because you have your
4:34Speaker 3of your pesticides and your food, but you can speculate that it's a multitude of these things. When
4:42Speaker 1seeking help that probably, you know, there's people that know about testosterone replacement. A lot of people have no clue about it. So you have a fresh guy coming in with a lot of questions and no knowledge. What
5:05Speaker 1ears are perked up, whether it be this show or whatever has led them to start thinking about testosterone replacement.
5:14Speaker 3a little overweight and he's tired. What do you, how do you run that? How do how do you handle that? Well, 1st of all, how did he get there? What made him think, Hey, something's off with me? Was it he saw Joe Rogan or he saw a new podcast or a family member said, Hey, I'm on TRT, man. It's changed my life. Or someone at work is like,
5:42Speaker 3Low energy and low sex drive. Did someone tell them? So I asked them the 1st thing is like, hey, like, how'd you hear about me? And their answer is different every time. What are some answers?
6:04Speaker 3I keep seeing these videos on Instagram about people on TRT and how it's so beneficial and how it's changed.
6:19Speaker 3know something about it. And then you have your small percentage of people who I've been researching this for 2 years and I finally decided,
6:36Speaker 3know a little bit about it. The majority know a little bit more, and then there's a subsection who've really done their research and
6:48Speaker 2Now what's your So then somebody comes in, like, what's your pro in your clinic, what's your process that you take somebody through? From lab tests, blah, blah, What are you looking for? So they
7:00Speaker 3I have a men's health specialist. His name is David. He's fantastic. He's like the epitome of health. They have a call saying, and David's, What made you schedule this call? Oh, I'm feeling low energy.
7:22Speaker 3And we're not talking, you know, I won't talk about the clinics that don't do this, but we're not. We
7:56Speaker 3We do check estrogen, but we'll get into that later. That's a whole nother thing. They were checking A1C,
8:17Speaker 3I mean, everything works in harmony. You can't just treat testosterone and neglect like
8:24Speaker 1or vice versa? Well, that's kind of the problem that we've run into. We talk about it often on here is if you go to like a typical MD,
8:32Speaker 1they will run just testosterone. Like, what's your free testosterone? Well, I don't see that. Or estrogen or all that stuff. Like you just said,
8:40Speaker 1see that every day. Yeah. And it's like such a problem because it's like, you, it's like you took a picture and you're trying to explain the picture and all you see is the corner.
8:48Speaker 3You know what mean? Then you're trying to like, like explain the picture and you don't see any of it. You know what I mean? We have guys who call in and they say, Hey, I'd like to schedule an appointment. I already have my labs done.
9:00Speaker 3wife, Laura, who runs the place says, Well, what labs do you have? Well, says here testosterone,
9:09Speaker 3she'll say, well, unfortunately we can't see you yet. We have a lot more to check. And, you know, they'll kind of get a little attitude about it. And
9:28Speaker 1want to do it doesn't even like, you want to see that. You what mean? Like you need to see that. What is the difference between free testosterone and bioavailable testosterone? So free,
10:16Speaker 3you don't get to use Jack of that. I mean, you're like, that puts you down to like 400.
10:38Speaker 3This is our sweet this or more. We can go way over here and still be in this scenario. This fella
11:04Speaker 3usually these 2 go hand in hand. If this one's low, this one's most likely going to be low too. Or if this one's low assuredly,
11:12Speaker 3these are going to be low for sure. Because we, you know, I'll see someone here, but then they're over here with the free and they're bioavailable. Yeah.
11:25Speaker 1right? And that's, that's a fairly good total test, you know? And then you have somebody that has like a 6,
11:31Speaker 1what would be like, why would that be such a drastic difference? Because that is extremely low on the free test.
11:39Speaker 3Why would it be such a dramatic? What you want? Cause we had that question recently, which is So it could, yes. So that's this exact thing right here. So the lower your free T and low your bioavailable,
11:56Speaker 3more specifically in the liver. So what do we do if we're gonna, there's ways to free up your free T. If this is already high, which is, this is not the typical. This is not typical 1000 and then you're here. Usually a typical is you're here and it just goes like this. It's a downward spiral.
12:17Speaker 3especially if we use other things like HCG, we're going to be increasing the free with it.
12:22Speaker 3But if we have this scenario, we know inevitably that you have too much testosterone bound up in the liver
12:29Speaker 3receptors and we need to free that up. There are ways to free that up. How do do that? Well, it could be just HCG.
12:36Speaker 1Could be things like boron supplements like that. So let's talk about that for 1 2nd because this is super interesting. So you generally speaking, HCG
12:45Speaker 1for people that are not you that know all about this would be taken for guys that want to stay fertile, that don't want their
12:55Speaker 1So would you say for most men on TRT that you're going to recommend HCG no matter what?
13:03Speaker 3For that reason. Don't even start recommending like I say your treatment is going to look like this.
13:11Speaker 32, the special sauce. I could call it whatever they want because my counterparts in Southern California
13:20Speaker 3They're sending them out of the office by, and then they end up coming in all messed up. But HCG is like the special sauce. 1, what does it do?
13:27Speaker 3It keeps your testes working. We just say balls. We just say balls. We don't need- That's right. Testicles, we don't need to be on- Keeps your balls work working. If your balls aren't working, it turns them on,
13:43Speaker 3or helps to increase your natural T. So when I say we're giving you testosterone, you're getting
13:50Speaker 3but you're getting the real thing too. You know, you know that saying there's nothing like the real thing. That's
14:05Speaker 3we don't know what causes this. It tends to give you this sense of like the mental well-being.
14:11Speaker 3We're not sure if it has to do with the increase in the estrogen, a little spike in estrogen,
14:18Speaker 3they just seem to feel a little bit better than the guys are just on testosterone. Yeah.
14:48Speaker 3to me, rationally, logically, it doesn't make sense to shut down a whole system of our body,
14:58Speaker 3I don't care. Okay. So we just took out 1 reason. So we're not worried about your fertility. We still want your balls to be on. We still want to rev them up. We still want to naturally increase your testosterone. What happens if you have
15:12Speaker 3You don't have to wait a year or 2 years to rev your nuts back up. They're already on.
15:18Speaker 2That's right. Makes sense. Do you mind sharing with us- Dosages? Your dosage, starting dosage for HCG- You
15:37Speaker 3Guys call in and they'll say, well, what dosages are you giving? And basically I'm like, I just
15:46Speaker 3I like to say they've got to put some kind of skin in the game for me to tell you how I'm going to do this. But generally speaking,
16:32Speaker 36 months later, they're like calling me crying. Oh my God, my wife's pregnant. I'm like,
16:46Speaker 3don't know that you can stay at testosterone and get the proof is in the pudding, man. Works. And I, by the way, it worked for me too. I'm 48. I have
17:16Speaker 2I did exactly this. And then boom, yeah, The doctor told you that? What do about, what do you think about adding
17:24Speaker 3thoughts? So this is going to be, this is going to be controversial and there's going to probably be,
18:40Speaker 3call the pharmacist at the compounding pharmacy. I'm like, have you seen this? He said, Oh yeah, in a small subsection,
18:58Speaker 3HCG they're back, you know, they're back where they should. And that was, it was a really hard thing for me to have to take
19:17Speaker 1And it's not, it's well, they're trying to tap into the dudes that have no idea about testosterone. So they're the dudes in the stands yelling at us going, you guys aren't cheaters and all this stupid stuff.
19:37Speaker 3would be something that many people would suggest. Now let's talk about that. Let me 1 more thing. What
19:44Speaker 3I have found is that enclomiphene does not work for 100 percent of men. We're talking, when I'm thinking about 1000 patients, I'm like, wait a minute, I'd
20:08Speaker 3naturally increase test and naturally increase sperm. We don't know how the pituitary is gonna react.
20:14Speaker 3You could get a your pituitary could be dormant and you give it this and these guys get great results. I mean, I've had got great results. And then
20:35Speaker 0to feel better, to do something you never thought possible, and this space starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally,
21:00Speaker 3Have gone down to 400. Woah. So On the things that you're seeing, I don't even present in clomiphene anymore just because of the side effects
21:17Speaker 22 people personally who, like, had never touched tests. They went to doc, test was low, they ran some Enclomiphene and their tests went up by about a, by a couple 100 points. Yeah. No, but again, we always talk about this every step when we're talking like, everybody's different. Sorry. Everyone's Everyone. So drugs I've had guys go up 600
21:57Speaker 3And then I'm talking a month later, they're texting and calling. 3 weeks later, thank you. I feel like a new man. I should've just heard, listened to you from the but get
22:08Speaker 2Hey, how many what percentage of people would you say start testosterone, regular testosterone, and then maybe a month, 2 months be like, you know what? I don't like how I feel. Right? And I know that's probably there's probably some people,
22:20Speaker 2but it just want to kind of show tell the audience like, Oh, how many people started and started. Then they're like, I don't like this feeling. I don't like how that, what this is doing to me. I think I heard of a guy like a couple of years ago on a guy somewhere.
22:36Speaker 1You know what I mean? Let me answer that. It's the guys that don't take it properly, meaning like they don't take it in their proper doses, milligrams per week that's prescribed. They forget to take it. So there's like, you know mean? This is the God's honest
23:30Speaker 3had some bad acne and I don't want to go back to when I was in high school, I got made fun of, then stop.
23:45Speaker 1I know that we've talked a little bit about some AIs and that's a little bit different. I think that is
23:51Speaker 1going to be different for some doctors. So before I dig into this, let me tell you a little bit about my experience
24:03Speaker 1total tests. They had that, there's nothing else. And they put them on 200 mg of testosterone,
24:10Speaker 1right? Whatever it be, be a mega week or whatever. And they, that's what they prescribed them off the gates. And they don't run any other tests. That is what a MD
24:26Speaker 1percent were on TRT, the other 40 percent, I would have them go get their blood work. And so we would, I'm not a doctor, but I would give them some guidance on things that I've worked And that would, I would be blown away by doctors that would just do that out the gate. Like, it's not 1 shoe fits every size. It's just crazy. It's not cookie cutter. Yes. At all. You, I know, have some different opinions on AIs
24:47Speaker 1most. So let's talk a little bit about that. Is there a time when you would recommend it at all? Or give us somebody asked me yesterday, what does AI mean? So could you tell the It's artificial intelligence. Yeah.
25:00Speaker 3Chatching teeth. Which never thought about that. So 1st off, before we start talking about AIs and estrogen in men, I wanna there's this quote,
25:10Speaker 3because this is gonna stir up a lot of stuff in guys because they read on a bodybuilding forum or their friend told them at the gym or Reddit told them or they Googled on AI estrogen in men.
25:59Speaker 3I don't know how they got that number or why they're giving them 0.5 CC twice a week with 0.5 mg of anastrozole,
26:26Speaker 3confirmation bias. Okay. Sure. Makes sense. You heard that and then you heard, saw or heard it again. So that must be the truth. Yeah.
26:51Speaker 3have to take this to block your estrogen. I'm like, sweet. So for 10 years, I took an estrogen blocker and
27:02Speaker 3but here we go for talking like there's no filters here. Like libido was in the gutter.
27:51Speaker 3If I have estrogen, that's going to turn me into a girl and I'm going to, you know, no,
28:00Speaker 3meaning your libido, erection quality is due to estrogen. But if you tell that to a man who's heard something else, they're gonna be like, this
28:09Speaker 3guy's a quack. He has no idea what he's talking about. But go back to what you were saying. When I,
28:46Speaker 3let's not fully screw them up. Let's only screw them up a little bit now looking back on it. Yeah.
28:51Speaker 1Your intentions were good because that's what you knew. That's what now is more experience.
29:06Speaker 3story. And when I used to start these guys, I give them an Astros all now and I literally on the instructions say,
29:35Speaker 3went to this other doctor and he said, I always need to be on this. So this is a funny story. I get these calls and texts from my patients.
29:54Speaker 3or what they're gonna tell me. And I'll get on the phone and it's like, okay, so you can't get it up and your libido is down. Yeah, my wife thinks I'm cheating on her. And I'm like, okay, are you ready to stop taking this pill?
30:07Speaker 3I'm willing to do anything. Do I need Cialis? Well, we can do that. I want you to stop taking this pill 1st. I'm
30:33Speaker 3Crashing their estrogen. But we also need to discuss that when we're not talking about the normal person who's not, we're talking about guys who are taking Optimize.
30:55Speaker 3from the conversion of testosterone is good. Not having high estrogen when you're obese,
31:01Speaker 1having metabolic syndrome, insulin sensitivity, and high blood pressure. So when does it come too high? I love this. This is great. So when does that become too high? So we want estrogen because estrogen is going help with erections.
31:22Speaker 1So what about the, yeah, so if you start taking too much testosterone where it goes into a steroid cycle that-
31:30Speaker 1I'm just saying like, would it, when was that, would that estrogen be too much to where you would need you, you personally think that you would need to bring it down on a TRT level? Wouldn't worry about it. Wouldn't
31:51Speaker 3day when I was like, wait, you told me your numbers. And I was like, I wouldn't have known- couldn't believe it, dude. But I'm like, okay, wait a minute.
32:03Speaker 3the 1st 1 up, I'm the last 1 to go to sleep, wake up with boners every day. I more sex with
32:34Speaker 3the more your metabolic system is going to be on fire and you're going to actually drop body fat. I'm going to have people, we're going have people comment on that, but I will dare them. We're used to. We're fine. It's fine. Okay, cool. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Mean, neither is this. But I feel like the inverse, like, so
32:53Speaker 2has higher estrogen. It's the fat that causes the estrogen, not the estrogen that causes the fat. Correct. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So people are not optimized though. Like if they're overweight and they're not completely different conversations.
33:14Speaker 3and estrogen elevated that have had a higher risk of heart attacks. And you know what they blamed it on? It's gotta be the estrogen.
33:46Speaker 3up to 30 to 40 percent. I don't know. So it is a lot of the positive effects of testosterone are actually from the conversion to estrogen. Okay. That's awesome. Well,
33:58Speaker 1with that being said, you work with so many people and me, Will and I talk about it to the degree where like,
34:03Speaker 1we're a science project. It is not 1 size fits all. You have to find your sweet spots. There's levels like you told me your levels. I was like, woah,
34:30Speaker 1of a typical person, like a sweet spot, so to speak. Because before this conversation, I think I'm
34:45Speaker 1That is generally, but you're saying you can do much liar. I'm going love it because I'm curious. This is a number. Doesn't matter. Number doesn't matter. How do you feel?
34:57Speaker 3If we get your, your numbers back and it's 1000 and your, estrogen, the, the, use a quest, so it's a 0 to 39 and you're at 60. The 1st question I ask is how are you feeling?
35:10Speaker 3Feel great. I feel great. Hey, but I noticed my estrogen was in the red. I'm like disregard
35:18Speaker 3the higher your testosterone, the higher we want your estrogen. Yeah. You know, my workouts are great. My energy is good. My focus, I'm sleeping better. My sex life. Okay.
35:39Speaker 3if we're going to be chasing this 20 to 1 ratio, we're going be checking your blood like every
35:54Speaker 3conversion up somewhere and that's what So if you read that on Reddit 6 times, you're gonna think, oh, this Yeah, I need it to be within normal range.
36:03Speaker 2Interesting. I agree. I agree with you. I think the last couple podcasts I've said, you know, I just did blood tests.
36:45Speaker 2What do you guys do at your practice? Is it all injectable? Do you guys do do pellet? I know there's all types of different things. What do you think about,
37:14Speaker 3When I have people come to the practice all the time and they're like, yeah, my doctor has me on 1 shot a week and like, I feel good. Then something's,
37:49Speaker 3or physique competitors, so we're not worried about a whole lot of different esters or long
38:11Speaker 3more effective as it's rating your ass cheek rate in the muscle. Okay. But the literature shows that
38:36Speaker 3rather do it in my butt cheek or my lateral thigh. Great. Some guys like to do it in their delts. At
38:43Speaker 3the end of the day, I honestly think at the end of the day, each his own. To each his own and the
38:59Speaker 3whether you do it. So I've done it sub Q and I didn't notice a difference. I prefer my lateral thigh. So
39:06Speaker 1to start out all sub Q. Yeah. Cool. And twice a week, do you ever usually twice a week? Usually There are some guys- The general starting dose of like the typical that you put or is it very
39:18Speaker 3All of it depends on what their total and free is. So someone comes in and they're at $2.50, we're obviously going to start then. Yes, very common.
39:42Speaker 3Joe Smith to come in right now. Yeah. Poor guy. Yeah. I'm like, this is not okay. Does he know what stat means?
40:04Speaker 2Pun intended. I think that it's probably the most effective. I don't keep you real even,
40:12Speaker 3that does do the micro dosing daily. And yes, I would say it does mimic the body's natural
40:26Speaker 3Especially for a guy who is naive to this. What can you do? Who's never done this? For someone who's been injecting for 10 years, if you want to do it every day,
40:44Speaker 3Let's start with Monday and Friday. If we need to adjust later on, we can adjust, modify,
40:52Speaker 3Do you pellets? How about pellets? No. You do pellets? When I 1st started, we did pellets.
41:30Speaker 3this time, I was still treating women and the 1st lady I did with pellets, she called me a week later and she said she was so horny that she wanted to screw the mailman.
41:58Speaker 3then I've seen a couple of people, the incisions have opened up and then some have even gotten infected.
42:19Speaker 3What can you adjust if it's too much? We just back your dose off. If it's too little, instead of waiting 3 or 4 months to me, that just some
42:28Speaker 3people who are advocates of pellets, that's great. If you get a great result, fine. That's
42:43Speaker 3We get some of those questions like, yay. I mean, I've done that too. I have a guy that swears
43:07Speaker 2add in 1 IU of HGH because your sperm count is super low. I've had then people just recently where a chemist was like, if you're trying to make a baby, could pull the HGH, stop it. 0 Growth. You're talking growth hormone. Yep.
43:23Speaker 1I was on HGH, both kids, just so you know. So I don't know if that makes a difference. Mean, that's
43:42Speaker 1interesting, Dihexa and clomiphene, because we've had this pop up and I've never taken it. But we get questions all the time. So this is great. I mean, it's been a good
43:52Speaker 2about so many other treatments that you do that at your clinic that you think is really 1 good and forward and you're really helping men? Head of the
44:23Speaker 3do you do? What do you do? What do you drink? What is your workout? What is your diet? What
44:43Speaker 3These 2 things together- Testosterone is just the godfather, man. This is the godfather and then
44:58Speaker 3is the most crucial foundational chemical a man makes. We have been, what about the guys who say, Well, I don't want to become dependent on it. I'm like,
45:08Speaker 3dependent on it, by the way. Can depend on it since you're in your mother's womb. We're
45:15Speaker 1what mother nature has taken I know people have a problem understanding that. That is so easy though. I feel like it's going away
45:21Speaker 3because of guys like us talking about it, but I'm like, these are the most important vitamins, even though they're not actually vitamins. It's like,
45:44Speaker 3Your perspective is different and it doesn't take much. And we're not talking about bodybuilding doses. We're talking about just like- Longevity.
45:55Speaker 3what did you do? Are you doing something different? And I'm like, I'm not gonna tell them, but if they really wanna know, I'll tell them, but this is it, And
46:14Speaker 3And 1 of those are several of those are growth hormone peptides. So the proof's in the pudding. We know growth hormone is like,
46:42Speaker 1Do you to feel the real life? I don't understand it. They're like, well, it's too expensive. And I'm like,
47:02Speaker 3You've to pay misery right now crawling through us. But humans are silly, right? But think about this too. Guys come in, they're like, oh, I can't afford $400 a month.
47:18Speaker 3They're like, oh, it's my payment's like 800 a month. And I'm like, how many hours are you in your car?
49:54Speaker 1crazy because I've been using it forever. We were older guys. We're going to all lift until we die. That's who we are. I know that because I know everybody's in this table and
50:04Speaker 1freaking blown away by how good it is. You like, I'll have an injury and then I'll take it like 3 days later. I'm like, dude, I don't even feel it. It just continues to blow my mind. Even though I know how amazing it is. I'm still like, holy shit. It's
50:43Speaker 3say are probably 80% of the peptides that I give my patients. And then you have your others. That's
50:52Speaker 1but that's, that seems to have just fallen by the wayside. 0 Yeah. It's definitely falling clip. But like, example, for example, some, some people,
51:01Speaker 1if you want to lose 50 pounds or more, I have recommended to some friends that Tirzepatide does work because it does block the hunger more. If you have a 50 pounds or more,
51:12Speaker 1need to stop eating and the Reddit throws a wrench in it because they still get hungry. And we need to block the hunger. So again,
51:19Speaker 1everybody's different, but Tirzepatide has its place. If we're working on a project like that,
51:23Speaker 1yeah, maybe start here. Start them in and blend them in. Because we all know here, Reta is a God, it's scientific
51:50Speaker 1are just in my repertoire. I run 2 units and that's all I needed, man. I love it. Do you use stress hormone? Yes, I do. You do, don't you? Yeah, absolutely. I
52:06Speaker 2feeling. You know, I have done it. I did it for a year and 0.5 and then I stopped. And then when I stopped is when I went, Oh yeah, that's what it was doing. Does. Holy crap. Takes a little bit to rev up,
52:17Speaker 3but then once it hits, it's you're in like, and it's not the way you, yes, the way you feel is important, but when other people are like,
52:43Speaker 2dudes talking around the table about stuff we love, man. Like this game. We're just started, didn't we? Yeah. Well, shoot, we're about time, man. Now we're in. That's how fast an hour goes dude. Tell everybody. Yeah. Like we're going to find you. Do they find you and how do get ahold of you? So where do they find me?
53:02Speaker 3It's just like, let's take action. I was like, it used to be Alpha, but I'm like, screw Alpha. That
53:18Speaker 3I literally, I feel like my dog died. Got, um- Oh. Got taken down. Got taken down because I was talking about something
53:50Speaker 1way, Doctor. Tyler, I like to say Tyler, everybody's, but, you know, we'll give them to you and, that's the thing that it's important. We love this stuff.
53:57Speaker 1We want to help people feel good, man. If you are struggling with trying to get on TRT, if you do not know by now by just listening to this, I'm gonna shake you.
54:07Speaker 3There's 1 thing, 1 last thing I'd like to say. I feel like a lot of these TRT clinics and anti aging clinics, you go in, they give you the same dose and you're on your way.
54:23Speaker 3that you're not alone. Like you have access to us. You can text and call David. You can text and call Laura. They are like extensions of my brain. And then finally you can text and call me. So this is not like,
54:40Speaker 3which those are fine too, but this is a service and we're here to guide you through every step of the way, make adjustments, do frequent labs every 60, 90 days,
54:52Speaker 2there's no straight lines in life. Right? Yeah. Well, it sounds like it. If you're telling me that you're getting text messages at midnight, you've made yourself available. Good for you. And I know that's tough. Yeah,
55:10Speaker 1Was a good man. We've been trying to get on for a while. We wanted to wait until the the podcast room was ready and bought it. It was lives better. I'm glad we didn't do that.
55:17Speaker 1Was glad we waited. We almost did it a few months ago. This is so much better. Yeah, you guys should be proud of yourselves. This is good. Yeah, it's been good, man. So everybody else, we got the Q and A next. We will be recording
55:27Speaker 1it in the next couple of days. I will be putting it out on my story. We'll get some updated questions and fire away.
55:34Speaker 2There was a quest sorry to interrupt you. There was a question from last time that I'm gonna maybe shoot to you. Mhmm. Sure. Maybe giving you a little written answer and so I can tell the guy. It was a really it was basically like, hey, I'm taking to TRT,
55:50Speaker 2And we went through the, Hey, could be estrogen, but I just want to hear, you probably mimic a lot of what we're going to say. But
56:00Speaker 2So I'll ask you and whoever wrote this comment or whoever requested, because like you were the dude that sucks. Yeah. Not being able to