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0:38Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I am your host JD Dental across the way looking dapper. As always, my buddy,
0:46Speaker 1business partner, and friend, mister Williams. What's up? T Haas. How are doing, buddy? I'm good, man. Good to be How's life? I was like, thanks.
1:12Speaker 2I can't do it. We just go hang out in the hotel for the night, go in the pool. Yeah. Staycation
1:56Speaker 1and all the above. So we're gonna dig into that more. I know everybody loves that subject and the questions just keep rolling in on that subject.
2:12Speaker 1Will talk some of that stuff. It's very, very, very common. So we wanna take you guys and shake you. And so anyways, Doctor. Tyler, welcome to the show. Brother. Great to be here. Really impressive,
2:36Speaker 1you know, we call it God's hands for sure. Just kind of putting his hand on this thing, but it's because we talk about subjects that need to be talked about. It's just the truth. Men's health needs to be talked about. I mean, all the above. Finally. All the above. You know, we're going to talk about some testosterone.
3:10Speaker 1in fitness and getting blood work done. I was blown away. I mean, I'd had like young 30 year olds with super low testosterone. I was blown away about that. Why would you say that is? That's a
3:57Speaker 3notice, you hear stories about farmers and old guys out on farms who don't have all the exposure to the stuff we have
4:19Speaker 3A multitude of things. And if someone that happens every time. Why is my why is my testosterone so low? We can't say, there's no lab test to say it's because you have your
4:34Speaker 3of your pesticides and your food. But you can speculate that it's a multitude of these things. Yeah. When somebody comes in
4:41Speaker 1seeking help that probably, you know, there's people that know about testosterone replacement. A lot of people have no clue about it. So you have a fresh guy coming in with a lot of questions and no knowledge.
4:54Speaker 1your kind of experience with that? What's led them to you and just like take the people that are listening that are like that, that are not on testosterone,
5:04Speaker 1ears are perked up, whether it be this show or whatever has led them to start thinking about testosterone replacement.
5:13Speaker 3a little overweight and he's tired. What do you, how do you run the, how do how do you handle that? Well, 1st of all, how did he get there? What made him think, Hey, something's off with me? Was it he saw Joe Rogan or he saw a new podcast or a family member said,
5:42Speaker 3Low energy and low sex drive. Did someone tell them? So I asked them the 1st thing is like, Hey, like how'd you hear about me? And their answer is different every time. What are some answers?
6:03Speaker 3I keep seeing these videos on Instagram about people on TRT and how it's so beneficial and how it's changed. I'd
6:19Speaker 3know something about it. And then you have your small percentage of people who I've been researching this for 2 years and I finally decided,
6:35Speaker 3know a little bit about it. The majority know a little bit more, and then there's a subsection who've really done their research and
6:47Speaker 2Now what's your So then somebody comes in, like, what's your pro in your clinic, what's your process that you take somebody through? Yeah. From lab tests, blah, blah, What are looking for? So they
7:00Speaker 3I have a men's health specialist. His name is David. He's fantastic. He's like the epitome of health. They have a call saying,
7:22Speaker 3and we're not talking, you know, I won't talk about the clinics that don't do this, but we're not new.
7:55Speaker 3We do check estrogen, but we'll get into that later. That's a whole nother thing. They were checking A1C,
8:09Speaker 3to see, okay, what else do we have going on that could be causing your symptoms? Because
8:24Speaker 1or vice versa. Well, that's kind of the problem that we've run into. We talk about it often on here is if you go to like a typical MD,
8:34Speaker 1Like, what's your free testosterone? I don't see that. Or estrogen or all that stuff like you just said.
8:39Speaker 1I see that every day. Yeah. And it's like such a problem because it's like, you, it's like you took a picture and you're trying to explain the picture and all you see is the corner.
8:47Speaker 3You know what I mean? Then you're trying to like, like explain the picture and you don't see any of it. You know what mean? We have guys who call in and they say, Hey, I'd like to schedule an appointment. I already have my labs done.
8:59Speaker 3wife, Laura, who runs the place says, well, what labs do you have? Well, says here testosterone,
9:09Speaker 3she'll say, well, unfortunately we can't see you yet. We have a lot more to check. And, know, they'll kind of get a little attitude about it. And
9:29Speaker 1want to see that. You what I mean? Like you need to see that. What is the difference between free testosterone and bioavailable testosterone? So free,
9:43Speaker 3It's like, how much of your total do you have available to be used in your body? How much is free?
9:51Speaker 2Mean, how much is your pocket? So we have 3 things that we're looking at. We have total.
10:16Speaker 3you don't get to use Jack of that. I mean, you're like, that puts you down to like 400.
10:33Speaker 3your free tea is 200 or above? Boom. This is our sweet this or more. We can go way over here and still be in this scenario. This fella
11:03Speaker 3usually these 2 go hand in hand. If this one's low, this one's most likely going to be low too. Or if this one's low assuredly,
11:12Speaker 3these are going to be low for sure. Because we, you know, I'll see someone here, but then they're over here with the free and they're bioavailable. Yeah.
11:25Speaker 1And that's, that's a fairly good total test, you know? And then you have somebody that has like a 6,
11:31Speaker 1what would be like, why would that be such a drastic difference? Because that is extremely low on the free test.
11:39Speaker 3Why would it be such a dramatic? What you want? Because we had that question recently, which is it could, yes. So that's this exact thing right here. So the lower your free T and low your bioavailable,
11:56Speaker 3more specifically in the liver. So what do we do if we're gonna, there's ways to free up your free T if this is already high, which is, this is not the typical. This is not typical 1000 and then you're here. Usually a typical is you're here and it just goes like this. It's a downward spiral.
12:17Speaker 3especially if we use other things like HCG, we're going to be increasing the free with it.
12:22Speaker 3But if we have this scenario, we know inevitably that you have too much testosterone bound up in the liver
12:28Speaker 3receptors. Then we need to free that up. There are ways to free that up. How do do that? Well, it could be just HCG.
12:35Speaker 3Could be things like boron supplements like that. So let's talk about that for 1 2nd because this is super interesting. So you generally speaking, HCG
12:45Speaker 1for people that are not you that know all about this would be taken for guys that want to stay fertile, that don't want their
12:52Speaker 1testicles to shrink. So would you say for most men on TRT that you're going to recommend HCG no matter what?
13:02Speaker 3For that reason, mean. I don't even start recommending like I say, your treatment is going to look like this. 1,
13:11Speaker 32, the special sauce. I could call it whatever they want because my counterparts in Southern California are not giving this. They're just giving testosterone. They're sending them out of the office by and then they end up coming in all messed up. But HCG is like the special sauce. 1, what does it do?
13:27Speaker 3It keeps your testes working. We just say balls. We just say balls. We don't need- That's right. Testicles, we don't need to be on-
13:42Speaker 3or helps to increase your natural T. So when I say we're giving you testosterone, you're getting
13:49Speaker 3exogenous, but you're getting the real thing too. You know, you know that saying there's nothing like the real thing. That's right. I love it. You're getting both. That's right. 4 prevents
14:01Speaker 35 keeps you fertile. And 6, we don't know what causes this. It tends to give you this sense of like mental well-being.
14:10Speaker 3We're not sure if it has to do with the increase in the estrogen, a little spike in estrogen,
14:18Speaker 3they just seem to feel a little bit better than the guys are just on testosterone. Yeah.
14:23Speaker 2You Do think it's maybe just because, Hey, now they have a little bit more testosterone and testosterone. They're making their, they're
14:29Speaker 3the real thing. The real deal. Like you're getting both. Nothing like the real thing. So I don't even present
14:48Speaker 3me, rationally, logically, it doesn't make sense to shut down a whole system of our body,
14:58Speaker 3I don't care. Okay. So we just took out 1 reason. So we're not worried about your fertility. We still want your balls to be on. We still want to rev them up. We still want to naturally increase your testosterone. What happens if you have
15:12Speaker 3You don't have to wait a year or 2 years to rev your nuts back up. They're already on.
15:36Speaker 3happens. Guys call in and they'll say, well, what dosages are you giving? And basically I'm like, I just
15:45Speaker 3I like to say they've got to put some kind of skin in the game for me to tell you how I'm going to do this. But generally speaking,
16:29Speaker 3I can't get, we can't get pregnant. And 6 months later, they're like calling me crying. Oh my God, my wife's pregnant. I'm like,
16:46Speaker 3don't know that you can stay in testosterone and get the proof is in the pudding, man. It works. And I, by the way, it worked for me too. I'm 48. I
17:15Speaker 3I did exactly this. And then boom, yeah, The doctor told you that? What do about adding you
18:40Speaker 3call the pharmacist at the compounding pharmacy. I'm like, have you seen this? He said, Oh yeah, in a small subsection,
18:57Speaker 3HCG, they're back, you know, they're back where they should. And that was, it was a really hard thing for me to have to take
19:18Speaker 1Well, they're trying to tap into the dudes that have no idea about testosterone. So they're the dudes in the stands yelling at us going, you guys aren't cheaters and all this stupid stuff.
19:37Speaker 1would be something that many people would suggest. Now let's talk about that. Let me 1 more thing. What
19:43Speaker 3I have found is that enclomiphene does not work for 100 percent of men. We're talking, when I'm thinking about 1000 patients, I'm like, wait a minute, I'd
20:08Speaker 3naturally increase test and naturally increase sperm. We don't know how the pituitary is gonna react. Yeah.
20:14Speaker 3You could get a, your pituitary could be dormant and you give it this and these guys get great results. I mean, I've had got great results. And then
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21:16Speaker 22 people personally who, like, had never touched tests. They went to doc, test was low, they ran some Enclomiphene and their tests went up by about a by a couple 100 points. Yeah. No. But but, again, let me always talk about this. Every step when we're talking like,
21:57Speaker 3And then I'm talking a month later, they're texting and calling. 3 weeks later, thank you. I feel like a new man. I should have just heard, listened to you from the but get
22:08Speaker 2Well, how many what percentage of people would you say start testosterone, regular testosterone, and then maybe a month, 2 months and be like, you know what? I don't like how I feel. Right? And I know there's probably some
22:20Speaker 2but it just wanted to kind of show, tell the audience like, Oh, how many people started and started. Then they're like, I don't like this feeling. I don't like how that, what this is doing to me. I think I heard of a guy like a couple of years ago on a guy somewhere.
22:36Speaker 1You know what I mean? Let me answer that. It's the guys that don't take it properly, meaning like they don't take it in their proper doses, milligrams per week that's prescribed. They forget to take it. So there's like, you know what this is the God's honest answer.
23:29Speaker 3had some bad acne and I don't want to go back to when I was in high school, I got made fun of, then stop.
23:45Speaker 1I know that we've talked a little bit about some AIs and that's a little bit I think that is
24:02Speaker 1total tests. They had that, there's nothing else. And they put them on 200 mg of testosterone, Symphony and Arimidex,
24:10Speaker 1right? Whatever it be, be a mega week or whatever. And they, that's what they prescribed them off the gates and they don't run any other tests. That is what a MD
24:19Speaker 1plural, I mean, D is, I was running across it in a high, a pretty high percentage of guys that I 60
24:26Speaker 1percent were on TRT. The other 40 percent, I would have them go get their blood work. So we would, I'm not a doctor, but I would give them some guidance on things that I've worked And that would, I would be blown away by doctors that would just do that out the gate. Like, it's not 1 shoe fits every size. It's just crazy. It's not cookie cutter. Yeah. You,
24:47Speaker 2So let's talk a little bit about that. Is there a time when you would recommend it at all? Or give us somebody asked me yesterday, what does AI mean? So could you tell the It's artificial intelligence. Right? Yeah. Or artificial insemination.
25:01Speaker 3I never thought about that. So 1st off, before we start talking about AIs and estrogen in men, I wanna there's this quote.
25:09Speaker 3Because this is gonna stir up a lot of stuff in guys because they read on a bodybuilding forum or their friend told them at the gym or Reddit told them or they Googled on AI estrogen in men.
25:58Speaker 3I don't know how they got that number or why they're giving them 0.5 CC twice a week with 0.5 mg of anastrozole,
26:49Speaker 3So he said, and you have to take this, you have to take this to block your estrogen. I'm like, sweet.
27:01Speaker 3but here we go. If we're talking like, there's no filters here. Like libido was in the gutter.
27:51Speaker 3If I have estrogen, that's going to turn me into a girl and I'm going to, you know, no,
27:59Speaker 3meaning your libido, erection quality is due to estrogen. But if you tell that to a man who's heard something else, they're gonna be like, this
28:08Speaker 3guy's a quack. He has no idea what he's talking about. But go back to what you were saying. When I,
28:33Speaker 3And then when I started the practice, I thought, you know what, let's not, let's give them some, but let's only give them a little bit.
28:45Speaker 3let's not fully screw them up. Let's only screw them up a little bit now looking back on it. Yeah.
28:51Speaker 1Your intentions were good because that's what you knew. That's what's now with more experience. But
29:05Speaker 3story. And when I used to start these guys, I give them an Astros all now and I literally on the instructions say,
29:23Speaker 3Because that's what they know. So like 80 percent of my patients are now not taking any AIs and it's, I've lost patients.
29:35Speaker 3went to this other doctor and he said, I always need to be on this. So this is a funny story. I get these calls and texts from my patients.
29:53Speaker 3or what they're gonna tell me. And I'll get on the phone and it's like, okay, so you can't get it up
29:59Speaker 3and your libido is down. Yeah, my wife thinks I'm cheating on her. And I'm like, okay, are you ready to stop taking this pill?
30:07Speaker 3I'm willing to do anything. Do I need Cialis? Well, we can do that. I want you to stop taking this pill 1st. I'm
30:28Speaker 3And that is because they are taking too much and they are crashing their estrogen, right? Crashing their estrogen. But we also need to discuss that when we're not talking about the normal
30:55Speaker 3from the conversion of testosterone is good. Not having high estrogen when you're obese,
31:01Speaker 1syndrome, insulin sensitivity, and high blood pressure. So when does it come too high? When do let's, I love this. This is great. So when does that become too high? So we want estrogen because estrogen is going to help with erections.
31:21Speaker 1What about Yeah. So if you start taking too much testosterone where it goes into a steroid cycle,
31:28Speaker 1We're not talking about those. No, I'm just saying like, would it, when was that, would that estrogen be too much to where you would need you, you personally think that you would need to bring it down on a TRT level? Wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't
31:44Speaker 3And he told me, I was telling him, when I saw that, I was almost embarrassed and I was like, oh my God. You left that day. I was like, wait, you told me your numbers. I was like, I went into, couldn't believe it dude. But I'm like, okay, wait a minute.
32:02Speaker 3I'm the 1st 1 up, I'm the last 1 to go to sleep, wake up with boners every day. Have more sex with
32:33Speaker 3the more your metabolic system is going to be on fire and you're going to actually drop body fat. I'm going to have people, we're going to have people comment on that, but I will dare
32:43Speaker 2It's fine. Okay, cool. Is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mean, neither is this. But I feel like it's the inverse, like, so somebody
32:52Speaker 2has higher estrogen. It's the fat that causes the estrogen, not the estrogen that causes the fat. Correct. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So people are not optimized though. Like if they're overweight and they're not an option. That's
33:03Speaker 3what I'm saying. So like, we're not, that's like, you're like completely different conversation.
33:07Speaker 3Is, there is our studies showing that men who are obese with metabolic syndrome, insulin sensitivity,
33:13Speaker 3and estrogen elevated that have had a higher risk of heart attacks. And you know what they blamed it on? It's gotta be the estrogen.
33:48Speaker 3So it is a lot of the positive effects of testosterone are actually from the conversion to estrogen. That's awesome. Well,
33:58Speaker 1with that being said, you work with so many people. Mean, Will and I talked about it to the degree where like,
34:02Speaker 1we're a science project. It is not 1 size fits all. You have to find your sweet spots. Every there's levels like you told me your levels. I was like, woah,
34:11Speaker 1just in this realm, that was high. But if you feel great, who gives a shit? Who cares? And you're not having any symptoms. I don't see much of acne. You look lean.
34:30Speaker 1of a typical person, like a sweet spot, so to speak? Because before this conversation, I think I'm much, I'm changing a little bit already, but like I would have said like 1000
34:46Speaker 1but you're saying you can do much a lot. I'm going love it because I'm curious. This is a number doesn't matter. Number doesn't matter. How do you feel?
34:54Speaker 3That's it. How do you feel? How do you perform? If we get your, your numbers back and it's 1000 and your, estrogen, the, I use quest, so it's a 0 to 39 and you're at 60. The 1st question I ask is, how are you feeling?
35:09Speaker 3I feel great. I feel great. Hey, but I noticed my estrogen was in the red. I'm like disregard
35:17Speaker 3the higher your testosterone, the higher we want your estrogen. Yeah. You know, my workouts are great. My energy is good. My focus, I'm sleeping better. My sex like, okay.
35:27Speaker 3So the answer is we're not chasing the number because if you read the literature or some of that read it, you want a 20%
35:38Speaker 3if we're going to be chasing this 20 to 1 ratio, we're going to be checking your blood like every
35:54Speaker 3conversion up somewhere and that's what So if you read that on Reddit 6 times, you're gonna think, oh, this Yeah, I need it to be within normal range.
36:07Speaker 2I just did blood tests. I just would go how you feel. Yeah. Even if so like same thing with testosterone though.
36:45Speaker 2What do you guys do at your practice? Is it all injectable? Do you guys do do pellet? I know there's all types of different things. What do think about,
36:55Speaker 3Many injections a week? Yeah. So yeah, the standard of care used to be, I mean, you even talk about these specialists,
37:13Speaker 3When I have people come to the practice all the time and they're like, yeah, my doctor has me on 1 shot a week and like, I feel good. Then something's,
37:43Speaker 3seems to be the best. I think it's the best. We're not, I'm not treating many bodybuilders
37:49Speaker 3or physique competitors, so we're not worried about a whole lot of different esters or long
38:28Speaker 3we want you to be able to see what you're doing. So we just go sub q. If they're ready to graduate and say, Hey, you know,
38:36Speaker 3I'd rather do it in my butt cheek or my lateral thigh. Great. Some guys like to do it in their delts. At
38:42Speaker 3the end of the day, I honestly think at the end of the day Each his own. To each his own and
38:58Speaker 3whether you do it. So I've done it sub Q and I didn't notice a difference. I preferred my lateral thigh. So
39:05Speaker 3to start out all sub Q. Yeah, cool. And twice a week, do you ever usually twice a week? Usually there are some guys, you know, dose of like the typical that you put or is it, does it vary literally?
39:17Speaker 3All of it depends on what their total and free is. So someone comes in and they're at $2.50, we're obviously gonna start them.
39:36Speaker 3Seriously. This is making me anxious. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and I tell David, I'm like, tell this guy,
39:42Speaker 3Joe Smith to come in right now. Yeah. Poor guy. Yeah. I'm like, this is not okay. Does he know what stat means?
39:57Speaker 2I think that daily, and I think, well, daily is a pain in the ass, like, I mean, literally.
40:03Speaker 2Pun intended. I think that it's probably the most effective. I don't keep you real even,
40:12Speaker 3that does do the micro dosing daily. And yes, I would say it does mimic the body's natural
40:25Speaker 3Especially for a guy who is naive to this. What can you do? Who's never done this for someone who's been injecting for 10 years. If you want to do it every day, great.
40:43Speaker 3let's start with Monday and Friday. If we need to adjust later on, we can adjust, modify,
40:51Speaker 2Do you pellets? How about pellets? Do you do pellets? When I 1st started, we did pellets.
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41:33Speaker 3she called me a week later and she said she was so horny that she wanted to screw the mailman.
42:18Speaker 3What can you adjust if it's too much? Should we just back your dose off. If it's too little, instead of waiting 3 or 4 months to me, that just some
42:27Speaker 3people who are advocates of pellets, that's great. If you get a great result, fine. That's
43:01Speaker 2I've had doctors tell, well, friends of mine, man, you need to you should add in 1 IU of HGH because your sperm count is super low. I've had then people just recently who were chemists who was like, yes, if you're trying to make a baby, pull the HGH. Stop it.
43:41Speaker 1It's interesting, Dihexa and Klomiphene, because we've had this pop up and I've never taken it. But we get questions all the time. So this is great. I mean, it's been a good what else? What, how about so many other treatments that you do that at your clinic that you think is really 1 good and forward and you're really helping men? Head of So the
44:42Speaker 3These 2 things together- Testosterone is just the godfather, man. This is the godfather and then
44:57Speaker 3is the most crucial foundational chemical a man makes. We have been, what about the guys who say, Well, I don't want to become dependent on it. I'm like,
45:14Speaker 1what mother nature has taken I know people have a problem understanding that. That is so easy though. I feel like it's going away
45:21Speaker 3because of guys like us talking about it, but I'm like, these are the most important vitamins, even though they're not actually vitamins. It's like,
45:43Speaker 3Your perspective is different and it doesn't take much. And we're not talking about bodybuilding doses. We're talking about just like- Longevity.
45:56Speaker 3You doing something different? And I'm like, I'm not gonna tell them, but if they really wanna know, I'll tell them, but this
46:13Speaker 3And 1 of those are several of those are growth hormone peptides. So the proof's in the pudding. We know growth hormone is like
46:41Speaker 3Do you want feel change? I don't understand And they're like, well, it's too expensive. And I'm like,
47:01Speaker 3You've got to pay misery right now crawling through us. But humans are silly, right? But think about this too. Guys come in, they're like, oh, I can't afford $400
47:17Speaker 3They're like, oh, that's my payment's like 800 a month. And I'm like, how many hours are you in your car?
47:49Speaker 3I would say it used to definitely be the growth hormone peptides, which we'll talk about, but those are probably now number 2
48:03Speaker 3I took it a year ago just when it 1st came out to see if it's, was, and I was astounded with the results. So
48:30Speaker 1Couple weeks. Yeah. Those 2 are instant. So if you had somebody that's on the testosterone,
48:38Speaker 1they're going to feel completely different. It's just, they're going to start noticing like, wait,
48:45Speaker 3they're a little bit more loose. There's no way this thing is working. And then they check their weight and they're like, And
49:22Speaker 3seemed to have dropped. I think guys just, especially guys get better results with this. It helps with sleep. I mean, Tesamorelin's great.
50:05Speaker 1how good it is. You like, I'll have an injury and then I'll take it like 3 days later. I'm like, dude, I don't even feel it. It just continues to blow my mind. Even though I know how amazing it is. I'm still like, holy shit. It's
50:42Speaker 3say are probably 80% of the peptides that I give my patients. I think you have your others. That's
50:51Speaker 3but that's, that seems to have just fallen by the wayside. Yeah. It's definitely falling clip. But like, example,
51:00Speaker 1if you want to lose 50 pounds or more, I have recommended to some friends that tears up at night does work because it does block a hunger more. If you have a 50 pounds or more,
51:11Speaker 1need to stop eating and the Reddit throws a wrench in it because they still get hungry. And we need to block the hunger. So again,
51:18Speaker 3everybody's different, but Tirzepatide has its place. If we're working on a project like that,
51:22Speaker 1yeah, maybe start here. Start and then blend them in. Because we all know here, Reta is a God, it's a scientific
51:39Speaker 3That's your winner. But people don't, I don't think people realize that. No, they don't.
51:49Speaker 1HGH are just in my repertoire. Run 2 units and that's all I needed, man. I love it. Do you use stress hormone? Yes, I do. You do. Don't you? Yeah, absolutely. I
52:04Speaker 2it's a subtle feeling. You know, I have done it. I did it for a year and 0.5 and then I stopped. And then when I stopped is when I went, oh yeah, that's what it was doing. It does. Holy crap. It takes a little bit to rev up,
52:19Speaker 3and it's not the way you, yes, the way you feel is important, but when other people are like, what
52:37Speaker 3that's a good conversation. I love it, man. That was good. We love it. We love these conversations. I knew that was 3
52:42Speaker 1dudes talking around the table about stuff we love, man. We're just started, didn't we? Yeah.
52:47Speaker 3Well, shoot, we're about time, man. Now we're in. That's how fast an hour goes dude. Tell everybody. Yeah, like we're gonna find you. Where do they find you and how do they get ahold of? So where do they find me?
53:01Speaker 3It's just like, let's take action. I was like, it used to be Alpha, but I'm like, screw Alpha. That
53:37Speaker 1Wherever you guys know that you can DM me, you know, everyone everyone knows here at this point that I run the social medias, you
53:48Speaker 1Tyler's way, Doctor. Tyler, I like to say Tyler's everybody's, but, you know, we'll give them to you. And that's the thing that it's important. We love this stuff.
53:56Speaker 1We want to help people feel good, man. If you are struggling with trying to get on TRT, if you do not know by now by just listening to this, I'm gonna shake you.
54:06Speaker 31 thing, 1 last thing I'd like to say. I feel like a lot of these TRT clinics and anti aging clinics, you go in, they give you the same dose and you're on your way. Something
54:24Speaker 3You have access to us. You can text and call David. You can text and call Laura. They are like extensions of my brain. And then finally, you can text and call me. So this is not like, Hey, here's your bottle of this is not a test dispenser,
54:39Speaker 3which those are fine too, but this is a service and we're here to guide you through every step of the way, make adjustments, do frequent labs every 60, 90 days, whatever. But this is not alone. There's no,
54:51Speaker 2there's no straight lines in life. Yeah. Well, it sounds like it. If you're telling me that you're getting text messages at midnight, you've made yourself available. Good for you. And I know that's tough.
55:09Speaker 1Was good stuff, man. We've been trying to get on for a while. We wanted to wait until the podcast room was ready and bought it. It was lives better. I'm glad we didn't do that. I was glad we waited. We almost did it a few months ago. This is so much better. Yeah, you guys should be proud of yourselves. This is good. It's been good, man. So,
55:26Speaker 1it in the next couple of days. I will be putting it out on my story. We'll get some updated questions and fire away. There was a quest sorry to interrupt you. There was a question from last time that I'm gonna maybe shoot to you. Maybe
55:40Speaker 2give me a little written answer and so I can tell the guy. It was a really it was basically like, hey, I'm taking
55:50Speaker 2And we went through the, hey, could be estrogen, but I just wanna hear you'll probably mimic a lot what we're gonna say. But,
56:10Speaker 3does not give you erectile dysfunction. There's something else that else is that. Yeah. So yeah.