Ep 62 · 25:42
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0:54Speaker 1your little 2 hip hop Torres, pats on the back for our team. We have come a long way. We are sitting here across the table in our own podcast room. We got, 3 cameras going. We've got a videographer right here. We've got a sound board girl.
1:13Speaker 1Was pulling up, but you probably, I don't know how, like, anybody's gonna be able to see this, but this was like our 3rd podcast on the beach in Huntington Beach.
1:24Speaker 1which we're going to be talking about today. Irony of that is funny, but we're sitting on a beach. Yeah. Less than a year ago, and it was like our 3rd podcast.
1:51Speaker 1cool to talk with you. This is straightforward. Now the conversation where I was like looking this way and now we're like straight up looking and, what a cool thing, man. So, man, we're
2:00Speaker 1blessed. We are blessed. We're blessed. And here we are. So yeah, straight. So you're going on, you're going out of town tomorrow. I'm going out of, not out of town. I'm having a little staycation with my bride tonight.
2:10Speaker 1So we're both having a cool little weekend. So let's get after it and let is get going. So today
2:21Speaker 1but it's in the peptide category and everybody puts it in that category. It's gonna be SLU-PP-332
2:28Speaker 1or SLU- or SLU- depends on how you wanna call it. It's called different names, but it is
2:39Speaker 1I love it. So let's dig into what it is, who should take it and tell us like always a little bit about
2:59Speaker 2we're getting right off the plane actually. And because they changed the, the dates too, like right when they play out, they announced they're going to the playoffs. They said they're playing on Saturday. So we bought our plane tickets.
3:09Speaker 2Or they're saying they're playing on Sunday. So we bought our plane tickets. Now, then they switch the game to Saturday. So
3:24Speaker 2well, he'll love it. He's gonna freeze. They don't know though. My girl and him are born and raised here in Southern California. Yeah. And they have no idea what it, what cold feels like. And it's not even that cold there. It's probably gonna be like 42 degrees at night. Yeah. And that the and yeah, the Californians at 60 degrees, people are like, I don't think I can drive to work today. It's cold, too cold.
3:55Speaker 2punking out. Okay. If we're going? Yeah. Yeah. We're not here. You can't complain about being cold. Yeah. We're staying no matter what. Okay. He'll love it. He'll love it. That's tough. He'll have a blast. Yeah. He likes it.
4:23Speaker 2while you're taking it. And I would say so from when the time that you take it 4 to 6 hours, it's really active. This is why people take it in 3, 2 to 3 times a day. Okay.
4:34Speaker 2Exercise mimics. So it basically tells your muscles, Hey, we are, we are exercising right now. Your endurance, if you take it and you exercise your endurance
4:44Speaker 2will be through the roof. Okay. Your body, just a little bit extra cardio while you're taking it is gonna amplify
4:57Speaker 2fat, not glucose. Right? So glucose, sugar, carbs, that's our 1st energy source. Right?
5:03Speaker 2That our body normally chooses. It will bypass that and just burn the fat off of you. Alright. And nutrient
5:09Speaker 2partitioning. So when we exercise, people may or may not know this, right? But like when we exercise, our body is using a ton of vitamins and minerals, right? And it's actually not in a, in a perfectly healthy state at that time, because we're getting rid of all that stuff. So,
5:25Speaker 2our body can tap in and burn off muscles. So SLU-4P will put your, so when we exercise, when we finally get nutrients in our body goes, oh shit, we need to replenish those. Right? Yeah. And it grabs every soaps up every little bit of those nutrients and shoves them right where they need to be. Vitamins, minerals, protein,
5:41Speaker 2right back into your muscles. So while taking it, it's a basically a nutrient practitioner that is really gonna help you recover and feel better
5:51Speaker 1Take the food that you eat and it's gonna put it to the right place. Put it in the right places and use it Which is great.
5:57Speaker 1Great. Yep. Which is great. It's funny. Ironically, we were talking about this before and I showed the video, but, we were sitting on a beach ad desk. It's, it's a newer compound.
6:06Speaker 1It's fairly new compared to a lot of peptides. It is. You know what I mean? So, it's gained popularity.
6:12Speaker 1I would say we, you know, we were both laughing at that video because that was like 9 months ago, or take.
6:18Speaker 1And even from that, we've learned a lot in regards to how much to take and how much you should do. And like, there's some people that are taking a freaking shitload of it. Whether that's right or wrong, that's between them probably. I mean, I kind of it's in each zone, but, it's come a long way, man. You have sublingual,
6:43Speaker 1personally, we've done them all because the people that we are and we try different things and
7:14Speaker 2not exercising, which I should have, and I planned to, but I did not. I planned to take it because it does kind of, I don't know, at that dose,
7:28Speaker 2You know, they do say, so like research is telling us and, and we have a chemist who tells us like, Hey, sublingual is,
7:43Speaker 2Some of it has to be absorbed in your saliva and down your, in your GI tract. Right. Right. That your body
7:49Speaker 2gets rid of just because that's normally how it kills the world. It's like typical logic. Like everybody always injectables is works better than orals, but they do say that
8:11Speaker 1I guess like for somebody that maybe does, that's kind of a, I always like to say this, don't know, it's a proper way to say gateway
8:18Speaker 1or peptides or supplements or whatever, but, so it would work for somebody that's not willing to do injectable. So that is kind of cool about them. You know, we've taken the oral, which I'm not the biggest fan of the oral sublingual. I like,
8:31Speaker 1I keep them by my desk and, it will remind me, oh, so I take them 3 times a day, morning, midday, and kind of before I go to bed. And it's worked really well for me. But like you said, very ironic and I didn't know that you had taken this today. I just started taking the injectable
8:52Speaker 2gonna last longer. What would you say? We haven't talked about the dosage of what you're gonna run and what you've so let's- Okay. Well, so here are the, I mean, you alluded to this, like we've learned a lot, like it's crazy how,
9:03Speaker 1What were we saying in the beginning? It would've been, you should've watched that think maybe like 2 50 micrograms daily.
9:10Speaker 2Now there was a new study come out. If you look, people, I don't know if you look in the internet, right? Everywhere.
9:15Speaker 2There was a study recently where they were basically giving, well, they're giving mice,
9:36Speaker 2exactly just extrapolate like if the mouse, if this happened to the mouse, then perfect to a human. Right.
9:43Speaker 2But people are absolutely experimenting with high, high doses. I had somebody try and tell me, sell me like 100 mg, 100 mg
9:58Speaker 2people are making that like raise dose a 100,000,000. So we had 1st talked about 2 50 micrograms.
10:34Speaker 2But like people are taking, so at 50 mg, right? That's 50000 micrograms folks. Like that's a ton. That
10:42Speaker 2of that one's a that's 1000 microgram pills, right? It's 50 taking 50 pills. Yeah. Jeez. That's a lot. Some very, very, very, very big jump. Yeah. And considering that I could feel the 2000 mg right now,
11:03Speaker 2little extra energy, like kind of the type of energy that you want to do run off. Yeah. That doesn't feel great sitting at a desk and doing nothing.
11:11Speaker 2Why though? So, because it's gonna really light a fire in your mitochondria. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna light a in your mitochondria. It's actually gonna like increase mitochondria
11:18Speaker 1and make your mitochondria way more efficient. Your body- So mitochondria for anybody that doesn't know is like your, your cells power plant. So like when your mitochondria
11:31Speaker 1MOTS-3C and things like that are going to be great for that, but this will enhance that. That's
11:38Speaker 1you know, Will and I were talking about this earlier where everybody's body is so radically different. We just have, are able to talk to so many different people that have tried so many different compounds and there's such a wide range of like what people love. Like a lot of people feel NAD a lot. I don't feel NAD. Like I don't, I like NAD because I know what it does for me. I've never really had that experience, but you have had a big experience where you took too much and it was like too much, you know, Because, but they have, they are literally giving people 1000 mg of NAD in a sitting. Yeah. And people are doing fine. People are doing fine. So you can do heavy doses. You can do heavy doses now. I mean, I've talked to, Brandy over here that, yeah, she was doing it on purpose, but just small,
12:23Speaker 2I guess, probably, I don't know, 100 mg infusions, just IV. Yeah. And it is a it's overwhelming
12:35Speaker 2Kind of what I experienced. I mean, I was basically paralyzed. Right. Even the doctor before that said, Hey, when I do this, like just breathe, no, do not freak out when this happens. Yeah. Because also the NAD is like, is a form of niacin. We all know niacin is what makes you just red and tingly and flush, not beta alanine. We understand beta alanine makes you tingly too. I get real red. Yeah. But niacin especially.
12:56Speaker 2And so that's what it's, if at least too much in there. Now, I guess we were talking about it,
13:02Speaker 2right? So SLU-3P's gonna help your mitochondria. MOTS-1C is gonna help your mitochondria. NAD, I really think if you're a person who wants just more energy daily, which is feeling and everybody does. Yeah. If you're feeling, damn, I just don't have the energy. Like I would, that is probably the best stack I could think of. Plus maybe some B12 add some like B12 injections. Yeah. Especially
13:31Speaker 2There's a few, there's several things we can add as a perfect world, but in a reasonable world, right, where we're wanting to say, Hey, take these 17 things. I think that MOTS-1.0 NAD- posted on Instagram. You'll get nailed. I just did.
13:47Speaker 1Yeah. You got nailed. Yeah. Well, because I posted what I take and like, it's funny because people bitch when I don't post what I take, like, not like I'm hiding it, but like, I don't do it every month.
13:56Speaker 1So then I do it and then I get ripped for, yay, woah, and all of these are peptides people. These are not steroids and, but you know, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. I'm so used to it. And I hate being bad at you. Matter what.
14:13Speaker 2so it can be taken at high doses and basically like, look, dude, everybody's, everybody is their own kind of guinea pig when it comes to high doses. Mean, I know several people are taking very high doses. I don't feel energy, but it's like
14:25Speaker 1cellular energy where it's taking your fat and it's using the fat for energy. So it chooses the fat over glucose. That's right. There's a lot of peptides that actually do that. Again, it's on a peptide, but, 5 amino,
14:36Speaker 1those are gonna take those. So those would be kind of cool if somebody's objective is gonna be to like burn fat
14:45Speaker 1to enhance a ketogenic diet. Absolutely. Would be these types. I would imagine that's why I love these types of compounds. If any athlete, anybody who's actually like
14:57Speaker 1be careful if you're an actual like sanctioned athlete, I would look into your laws on, on SLU-3P that might be getting banned by WADA, but anybody's like a weekend warrior and just wants to do better and exercise longer. Absolutely. Take this stuff. You will feel it. A 100%. Yeah. A little, like, so going back around what we were saying. So people fill NAD. I don't. People fill MOTSY. I was telling you about our buddy, Doctor. Scott, who just started taking MOTS-1C and he was like, woah. Yeah. You know? But I don't feel MOTS-3C, but I do feel like, you know, sleep. I do feel like it really just enhances
15:29Speaker 0my fat burning. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving.
15:46Speaker 1everybody's different, dude. And it kind of goes back to what we say all the time, man. You have to try different things because everybody's radically different. Our bodies are,
16:00Speaker 2You're not gonna, unless You don't know unless you try. Some people were, and I do think it's some
16:07Speaker 2talked about, right? Somebody, if your brain chemistry is wrong for it, you're gonna hate it like you, right? If your brain chemistry is correct for it, it worked well. I loved it.
16:17Speaker 2And if you are like, for some, I do think it is, if you're a person, I don't know, you might just be deficient in this certain category, right?
16:24Speaker 2And you happen to take the peptide that affects that deficiency. And now you just, you feel on top of the world. Whereas somebody who wasn't deficient in that specific thing, take it, Meh, I don't know. That did much to me, you know? So you only know when you try it. So we all just experiment. I would say
16:41Speaker 1like, if you, like, if we talk about that for a 2nd, that's where you and I differ a little bit, because I know you and I know kind of generally not always what your, your, your stack is, but you run a lot less than me. I run a lot more. I just, because I run a lot usually. Like, I just started kind of enhancing it and that's why I did that post because I'm like, okay, I'm going to start to boost these up over here, but, you're generally running like 3 or 4, right?
17:15Speaker 1That's it. Start my morning and I do this, it takes about 30 minutes and that's what it is. Yeah. And I don't have any, I think
17:22Speaker 2younger when I was really chasing a physical goal, and I will say it was always more fun when I was really chasing a physical goal. Yeah.
17:30Speaker 2Since it's always fun to have a goal, right? Yeah. You like you're amped about it and that isn't,
17:37Speaker 2I wanna maintain and still feel good and look good at. But to be honest, like nowadays I'm more about like wanting to feel good. And so I blast the hell out of the Wolverine stack. Oh yeah. Right?
17:51Speaker 2daily or every 3 days or 3 days a week. Sub Q. Yeah. You really? Or put it in my shoulder when my shoulder was hurting.
18:01Speaker 2But still, yeah. So not that many, but I would do more if I'm really trying to chase a goal. Absolutely. People are gonna ask how long could you or should you, or can you take
18:30Speaker 2I don't know, 3 weeks off, 2 weeks off, if you wanna do it again. Yeah. But what I would do instead of just taking instead of going off and then doing it again, I would stop and then immediately
18:41Speaker 1start something else. Sure. That is similar, depending on what you're- Also carnitine or 5 of them, and then when I'm keto. Right. Know, that's a perfect fit. Yes. It's always depending on somebody's goal. So I, we were, we were kind of all over the place a little bit with the,
18:55Speaker 1with the dosages. So let's kind of fine tune that a little bit because people will ask, you know, that. So what do you,
19:16Speaker 1this, that would be 3 pills. 1 pill, 3 times a day. Yeah, 1 pill, 3 times a day. Yes. Perfect.
19:22Speaker 1So someone like me that takes things a little bit further than the norm, I take 2 morning,
19:28Speaker 2midday. Yeah. But that's about the, what you're saying, the max, the 6 minutes. Yeah. I mean, frankly, that's what I'm starting to do too. So I love the fat burners though, bro. Like I love to be super lean. I just, it's just the stuff works really well. And it is not a stimulant. So let's, let's make sure like people like, just because I said, Hey, I felt some energy. Like it's not like clonbuterol or
19:47Speaker 2anything you're gonna buy at 1 of these like supplement stores that is just a straight up stim bomb. Right? They just give you a 100 different forms of caffeine and
20:02Speaker 2It's not good for you. You're not pleasant. And I hate those things by the way. Like I hate taking clenbuterol. I don't like, I don't like any big stimulants.
20:12Speaker 2yeah, beginning if I took it, if I did that, absolutely. Yeah. A lot of people do. Yeah. I did.
20:21Speaker 2Clin, it should just because it's a little shock to your body at the beginning. But when doing it right, your body gets used to it. You should be able to take a Clin before you go to sleep.
20:29Speaker 1And be fine. I know when cleanse working is when you start to get those muscle cramps. Yeah. You know what I'm about? You're like, just laying there. You're like, oh it's
20:36Speaker 1good cleanse. Yes, it is. Yeah. So that's good. So let's do this, man. Let's, let's both give it as an opinion
20:50Speaker 1Everybody wants to gain, drop a little bit of fat. That part's the easy part. Let's throw that in there. So let's give
20:57Speaker 1your answer and give my answer. I can go 1st if you want, but, perfect. Why don't you go 1st since you've thought about this? Yeah. So I think,
21:06Speaker 1we, whether you were going to say this or not, because I have thought about the rhetoric side, it's always going to be a, just a, the big fat cherry on top on anybody's stack for the most part, unless you do skinny, you don't want Retatrutide. So throw the Retatrutide in there. I would say a Tesamorelin
21:27Speaker 1would do, or again, for fat burners and gym rats, it's just trying to get lean. I would throw an AOD in the morning,
21:50Speaker 1your circuit. What is it? Circadian rhythm and just get that thing like reset. So I'm gonna throw that DSIP as well. All right. I wouldn't, I'm gonna say
22:00Speaker 2Yeah. Other man. Okay. So I did that. I know you'd say something, but seriously, like, look, I don't know, staples, like testosterone,
22:20Speaker 2And I think that SLU-3P is just an all around good thing. It's like fat burning. It's gonna nutrient
22:26Speaker 2partition. It's gonna give you your nutrients where you need them. You're gonna be better in the gym. You're gonna lose fat. You're gonna feel better. And then also
22:45Speaker 2Gosh, we've seen it so much more time and time again, right? Different girls tell me like, I really notice a difference in my skin. Like who doesn't want good
22:59Speaker 1Yeah. You know what? I should've thrown in the MOTS-3C, because this is gonna really help with the mitochondria and the cellular
23:04Speaker 2pure energy. Yeah. Or NAD or both. It's always the pocketbook, but yeah. I'd like to add NAD to my answer. NAD's almost, NAD's kind of like a, a BPC. You can kinda throw it. Absolutely. You can't, you can run it underneath and you can run it for a long, long time and it doesn't really,
23:20Speaker 2it's not bad about it. And I do think the longer you run it, the better it is. Yeah. Just similar to HGH. So
23:31Speaker 1what I said. I will report back. I am definitely a sublingual guy when only with SLU-3U.
23:40Speaker 1way to do things. I have been a sublingual guy, but I have been doing because the 30 mg came out and it's a little easier 3 times a day. So I'm gonna do that. Yep. It is a little pinning a lot, but
23:57Speaker 2love that. Yeah. Without talking too much. Right? But it's a, it's like the funny thing is SLU-3P is there to make your mitochondria work
24:10Speaker 2through electron transfer is making your mitochondria less efficient. So you burn it's basically BAM is just a straight fat burner. People have show similarities. DNP.
24:20Speaker 2DNP is that 1 that was a, well, it's dangerous because it heats your body temp up way too high. So I wouldn't suggest anybody take DNP, but, similar,
24:30Speaker 2but much safer, but it basically just it's a fat burner because it makes your body or your mitochondria inefficient.
24:41Speaker 2You would think that they counteract each other, but really 1 works upstream, 1 works downstream, so they do not counteract each other. And it will be an effective fat burner.
25:18Speaker 1People love it. They love that product. That is for sure. But gosh, there's so many to choose from. Yeah. I
25:24Speaker 1can always talk about the fat burners, man. These ones are just the best, but cool, man. Well, that was awesome. Our 1st, our 1st week, we have to again give a shout out to our team who have just put this together and worked their butts off and got everything moving. I have a couple tweaks here and there, but, our 1st podcast in
25:51Speaker 1Couple of things still need a couple of tweaks, but man, we've come a long way. Watching that video on how far man, God is good, dude. Good stuff. So,
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