Ep 62 · 25:42
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0:56Speaker 1We are sitting here across the table in our own podcast room. We got, 3 cameras going. We've got a videographer right here. We've got a sound board girl.
1:10Speaker 1Was pulling up, but you probably, I don't know how like anybody's gonna be able to see this, but this was like our 3rd podcast on the beach in Huntington Beach.
1:21Speaker 1which we're going to be talking about today. Irony of that is, is funny, but we're sitting on a beach. Yeah.
1:46Speaker 1Straight job finally. It's cool to talk with you. This is straightforward. Now it's a conversation where I was like looking this way and now we're like straight up looking and, what a cool thing, man. So, man, we're
1:58Speaker 1We are blessed. We're blessed. And here we are. So yeah, it's great. So you're going on, you're going out of town tomorrow. I'm going out of, not out of town. I'm having a little staycation with my bride tonight.
2:07Speaker 1So we're both having a cool little weekend. So let's get after it and let is get going. So today
2:18Speaker 1but it's in the peptide category and everybody puts it in that category. It's going to be SLU-3.3-two
2:36Speaker 1I love it. So let's dig into what it is, who should take it and tell us like always a little bit about
2:55Speaker 2So we're getting right off the plane actually. And because they changed the dates too, like right when they play out, they announced they're going to the playoffs. They said they're playing on Saturday. So we bought our plane tickets. Okay.
3:06Speaker 2Or they're saying they're playing on Sunday. So we bought our plane tickets. Now, then they switch the game to Saturday.
3:21Speaker 2well, he'll love it. He's gonna freeze. They don't know though. My girl and him are born and raised here in Southern California. Yeah. And they have no idea what it, what cold feels like. And it's not even that cold there. It's probably gonna be like 42 degrees at night. Yeah. But, and that the and yeah, the Californians
3:37Speaker 2it's 60 degrees. People are like, I don't think I can drive to work today. It's cold, too cold.
3:52Speaker 2punking out. Okay. If we're going? Yeah. Yeah. We're not here. You can't complain about being cold. Yeah. We're staying no matter what. Okay. He'll love it. He'll love it. That's tough. He'll have a blast. Yeah. He likes it.
4:20Speaker 2while you're taking it. And I would say so from when the time that you take it 4 to 6 hours, it's really active. This is why people take it in 3, 2 to 3 times a day. Okay.
4:31Speaker 2Exercise mimics. So it basically tells your muscles, Hey, we are, we are exercising right now. Your endurance, if you take it and you exercise your endurance
4:41Speaker 2will be through the roof. Okay. Your body, just a little bit extra cardio while you're taking it is gonna
4:54Speaker 2fat, not glucose. Right? So glucose, sugar, carbs, that's our 1st energy source, right?
5:00Speaker 2That our body normally chooses. It will bypass that and just burn the fat off of you. Alright. And nutrient
5:06Speaker 2partitioning. So when we exercise, people may or may not know this, right? But like when we exercise, our body is using a ton of vitamins and minerals, right? And it's actually not in in a perfectly healthy state at that time, because we're getting rid of all that stuff. So,
5:22Speaker 2our body can tap in and burn off muscles. So SLU-3P will put your, so when we exercise, when we finally get nutrients in, our body goes, shit, we need to replenish those. Right? And it, and it grabs every soaps up every little bit of those nutrients and shoves them right where they need to be. Vitamins, minerals, protein,
5:38Speaker 2right back into your muscles. So while taking it, it's a basically a nutrient practitioner that is really gonna help you recover and feel better after
5:46Speaker 1the fact, assuming you eat food. Yeah. Take the food that you eat and it's gonna put them to the right place. Put them in the right places and use it all. Which is great.
5:54Speaker 1Yep. Which is great. It's funny. Ironically, we were talking about this before and I showed the video, but, we were sitting on a beach ad desk. It's, it's a newer compound.
6:03Speaker 1It's fairly new compared to a lot of peptides. It is. Absolutely. You know what I mean? So, it's gained popularity.
6:09Speaker 1I would say we, you know, we were both laughing at that video because that was like 9 months ago, or take. And even from that, we've learned a lot in regards to how much to take and how much you should do. And like, there's some people that are taking a freaking shitload of it, whether that's right or wrong, that's between them probably. I mean, I kind of it's in each zone, but, it's come a long way, man. You have sublingual,
6:39Speaker 1personally, we've done them all because besides the people that we are and we try different things and
7:09Speaker 2And I, and I was not exercising, which I should have, and I planned to, but I did not. I planned to take it because it does kind of, I don't know, at that dose, I feel a little bit of an, a little bit amped up, right? Like I want to go exercise. Yeah. You
7:25Speaker 2know, they do say, so like research is telling us and, and we have a chemist who tells us like, Hey, sublingual is,
7:40Speaker 2Some of it has to be absorbed in your saliva and down your, in your GI tract. Right. Right. That your body
7:49Speaker 2like typical logic. Like everybody always injectables is works better than orals, but they do say that
8:05Speaker 1Yeah. So you would be both. But I guess like for somebody that maybe does, that's kind of a, I always like to say this, I don't know what's the proper way to say gateway,
8:16Speaker 1peptides or supplements or whatever, but, so it would work for somebody that's not willing to do injectable. So that is kind of cool about them. You know, we've taken the oral, which I'm not the biggest fan of the oral sublingual. I like,
8:28Speaker 1I keep them by my desk and, it will remind me, oh, so I take them 3 times a day, morning, midday,
8:34Speaker 1and kind of before I go to bed. And it's worked really well for me. But like you said, very ironic and I didn't know that you had taken this today. I just started taking the injectable,
8:49Speaker 1gonna last longer. What would you say? We haven't talked about the dosage of what you're gonna run and what you've so let's go. Okay. Well, so here are the, I mean, you alluded to this, like we learned a lot, like it's crazy how-
9:00Speaker 1What were we saying in the beginning? Would've been, you should've looked at it. So beginning is maybe like 2 50 micrograms daily.
9:07Speaker 3Now there was a new study come out. If you look, people, I don't know, if you look in the internet, everywhere,
9:12Speaker 2There was a study recently where they were basically giving, well, they're giving mice,
9:32Speaker 2Now you can't exactly just extrapolate like if the mouse, if this happened to the mouse, then perfect to a human. Right.
9:39Speaker 2But people are absolutely experimenting with high, high doses. I had somebody try and tell me, sell me like 100 mg dose,
9:55Speaker 2but people are making that like raise dose 100 mg. So we 1st talked about 2 50 micrograms. I still think so. I, I,
10:46Speaker 2Very, very, very, very big jump. Yeah. And considering that I could feel the 2000 mg right now,
10:59Speaker 2a little extra energy, like kind of the type of energy that you want to do run off. Yeah. That doesn't feel great sitting at a desk and doing nothing.
11:08Speaker 2Why though? So, because it's gonna really light a fire in your mitochondria. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna light fire your mitochondria. It's actually gonna like increase mitochondria
11:17Speaker 1way more efficient. Your body- For anybody that doesn't know is like your, your cells power plant. So like when your mitochondria
11:28Speaker 1MOTS-3C and things like that are gonna be great for that, but this will enhance that. So that's why it's, I really feel,
11:35Speaker 1you know, Will and I were talking about this earlier where everybody's body is so radically different. And we just have, are able to talk to so many different people that have tried so many different compounds
11:45Speaker 1and there's such a wide range of like what people love. Like a lot of people feel NAD a lot. I don't feel NAD. Like I don't, I like NAD because I know what it does for me. I've never really had that experience, but you have had a big experience where you took too much Yeah. And it was like too much, you know, because, but they have, they are literally giving people 1000 mg of NAD in a sitting. Yeah. And people are doing fine. People are doing fine. You can do heavy doses. You can do heavy doses now. I mean, I'm talking to, Brandy over here that- Yeah. She was doing it on purpose, but just small,
12:29Speaker 2Feel your like cells vibrate. She said, that's kind of what I experienced. I mean, I was basically paralyzed.
12:35Speaker 2Even the doctor before that said, Hey, when I do this, like just breathe, no, do not freak out when this happens. Because also the NAD is like, is a form of niacin. We all know niacin is what makes you just red and tingly and flush, not beta alanine. We understand beta alanine makes tingly too. I get real red. Yeah. But niacin especially.
12:53Speaker 2And so that's what it's, if at least too much in there. Now I guess we were talking about it,
12:59Speaker 2right? So SLU-2s gonna help your mitochondria. MOTS-1C is gonna help your mitochondria. NAD, I really think if you're a person who wants just more energy daily, if you're feeling and everybody does. Yeah. You're feeling, damn, I just don't have the energy. Like I would, that is probably the best stack I could think of. Plus maybe some B12 add some like B12 injections. Yeah.
13:25Speaker 2for like- In a perfect world- In a world- SS-31. There's a few, there's several things we can add as a perfect world, but in a reasonable world, right? Where we not wanna say, Hey, take these 17 things.
13:44Speaker 1Yeah. You got nailed now. Well, because I posted what I take and like, it's funny because people bitch when I don't post what I take, like, not like I'm hiding it, but like, I don't do it every month.
13:52Speaker 1So then I do it and then I get ripped for, yay, small, and all of these are peptides people. These are not steroids. But you know, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. I'm so used to
14:10Speaker 3so it can be taken at high doses and basically like, look, dude, everybody's, everybody is their own kind of guinea pig it comes to high doses. I mean, I know several people are getting very high doses. Don't feel energy, but it's like cellular
14:22Speaker 3energy where it's taking your fat and it's using the fat for energy. So it chooses the fat over glucose. That's right. There's a lot of peptides that actually do that. Again, it's on a peptide, but, 5 amino,
14:42Speaker 1to enhance a ketogenic diet. Absolutely. Would be these types. I would imagine that's why I love these types of compounds. If any athlete, anybody who's actually like competing,
14:54Speaker 2be careful if you're an actual like sanctioned athlete, I would look into your laws on, on SLU-3P that might be getting banned by WADA, but anybody's like a weekend warrior and just wants to do better and exercise longer. Absolutely. Take this stuff. You will feel it. A 100%. Yeah.
15:09Speaker 1Well, like, so going back around what we were saying. So people fill NAD. I don't. People fill MOTS-3C. C. I was telling you about our buddy, Doctor. Scott, who just started taking MOTS C and he was like, woah. Yeah. You know? But I don't feel MOTS C, but I do feel like, you know, sleep. I do feel like it really just enhances
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15:52Speaker 1everybody's different, dude. And it kinda goes back to what we say all the time, man. You have to try different things because everybody's radically different. Our
16:06Speaker 2You're not gonna, unless you, you don't know unless you try. Some people were, and I do think it's some
16:14Speaker 2talked about, right? Somebody, if your brain chemistry is wrong for it, you're gonna hate it like you, right? But your brain chemistry is correct for it. It worked well. I loved it.
16:23Speaker 2And if you are like, for some, I do think it is, if you're a person, I don't know, you might just be deficient in this certain category, right? And
16:31Speaker 2you happen to take the peptide that affects that deficiency. And now you just, you feel on top of the world. Whereas somebody who wasn't deficient in that specific thing, they take it. Meh, I don't know. That did much to me, you know? So you only know when you try. So we all just expel it. I would say like,
16:48Speaker 1if you, like, if we talk about that for a 2nd, that's where you and I differ a little bit, because I know you and I know kind of generally not always what your, your, your stack is, but you run a lot less than me. I run a lot more. I just, because I run a lot usually. Like, I just started kind of enhancing it and that's why I did that post because I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start to boost these up over here, but, you're generally running like 3 or 4, right?
17:22Speaker 2It. Start my morning and I do this. It takes about 30 minutes and that's what it is. Yeah. And I don't have any, I think younger
17:28Speaker 2when I was really chasing a physical goal and I will say it was always more fun when I was really chasing a physical goal. Yeah.
17:37Speaker 2So it's always fun to have a goal, right? Yeah. You like you're amped about it and that isn't,
17:43Speaker 2I wanna maintain and still feel good and look good at, but to be honest, like nowadays I'm more about like wanting to feel good. And so I blast the hell out of the Wolverine stack. Oh yeah. Right.
17:58Speaker 2daily or every 3 day or 3 days a week. Sub Q. Yeah. You really? Or put in my shoulder when my shoulder was hurting. Yeah.
18:07Speaker 2But still, yeah, it's not that many, but I would do more if I'm really trying to chase a goal. Absolutely. People are gonna ask how long could you, or should you, or can you take
18:37Speaker 2I don't know, 3 weeks off, 2 weeks off, if you wanna do it again. Yeah. But what I would do instead of just take instead of going off and then doing it again, I would stop and then immediately start
18:50Speaker 1depending on what you're- Oh, it's carnitine or 5 of them, and then when I'm keto. Right. Know, it's a perfect fit. Yes. It's always depending on somebody's goal. So I, we were, we were kind of all over the place a little bit with the,
19:01Speaker 1with the dosages. So let's kind of fine tune that a little bit because people will ask about that. So what do you,
19:23Speaker 1this type would be 3 pills. 1 pill, 3 times a day. Yeah, 1 pill, 3 times a day. Yes. Perfect. So, so someone like me that takes things a little bit further than the norm, I take 2 morning,
19:34Speaker 2midday. Yeah. But that's about the, what you're saying, the max, the 6 minutes. Yeah. I mean, frankly, that's what I'm starting to do too. So I love the fat burner so bro. Like I love to be super lean. Just, it's just the stuff works really well. And it is not a stimulant. Let's, let's make sure like people like, just because I said, Hey, I felt some energy. Like it's not like clonbuterol or anything you're gonna buy at 1 of these like supplement stores that is just a straight up stim bomb, right? They just give you a 100 different forms of caffeine. Cellular.
20:08Speaker 2not good for you. You're not pleasant. And I hate those things, by the way. Like I hate taking clenbuterol. I don't like, I don't like any big stimulants.
20:18Speaker 3yeah, at the beginning, if I took it, if I did that, absolutely. Yeah. Lot of people do. Yeah. I did.
20:27Speaker 2a clean. It should just because it's a little shock to your body at the beginning. But when doing it right, your body gets used to it. You should be able to take a clean before you go to sleep.
20:35Speaker 1And be fine. I know when cleanse working is when you start to get those muscle cramps. Yeah. You know, you're like just laying there. You're like, oh shit. It's good cleanse. Yes, it is. Yeah. So that's good. So let's do this, man. Let's, let's both give it an opinion on
20:57Speaker 1Everybody wants to gain drop a little bit of fat. That part's the easy part. Let's throw that in there. So let's give your
21:04Speaker 1answer and give my answer. I can go 1st if you want, but, Why don't you go 1st since you've thought about this? Yeah. So I think,
21:13Speaker 1we, whether you were going to say this or not, because I have thought about the Retatrutide,
21:16Speaker 1it's to be a, just a, the big fat cherry on top on anybody's stack for the most part, unless you're too skinny. You don't want Retatrutide to throw the Retatrutide in there. I would say a Tesamorelin
21:33Speaker 1I would do, or again, for fat burners and Jim Razos, just trying to get lean. I would throw an AOD in the morning,
21:57Speaker 1your circuit. What is it? Circadian rhythm and just get that thing like reset. So I'm gonna throw that DSIP as well. All right. I wouldn't, I'm gonna say
22:07Speaker 3Yep. Other man. Okay. So I did that. I know you'd say something, but seriously, like, look, I don't know, staples, like testosterone,
22:26Speaker 2and I think that SLU-3s is just an all around good thing. It's like fat burning. It's gonna nutrient
22:33Speaker 2partition. It's gonna give you your nutrients where you need them. Gonna be better in the gym. You're gonna lose fat. You're gonna feel better. And then also
22:52Speaker 2Gosh, we've seen it so much more time and time again, right? Different girls tell me like, I really notice a difference in my skin. Like who doesn't want good looking skin and feel good?
23:02Speaker 1And that's, you know, that's me just trying not to run somebody out. Yeah. You know what? You should have thrown the MOTS-3C. Is this gonna really help with the mitochondria and the cellular
23:12Speaker 2or NAD or both? It's always the pocketbook, but yeah. I'd like to add NAD to my answer. NAD is almost, NAD is kind of like a BPC. You can kinda throw it. Absolutely. You can't stack. You can, you can run it underneath and you can run it for a long, long time and it doesn't really,
23:26Speaker 2it's not bad about it. And I do think the longer you run it, the better it is. Yeah. Just similar to HGH. So
23:38Speaker 1what I said. I will report back. I am definitely a sublingual guy when only with SLU-3.
23:47Speaker 1way to do things. I have been a sibling guy, but I have been doing because the 30 mg came out and it's a little easier 3 times a day. So I'm gonna do that. Yeah. It is a little pinning a lot, but
24:03Speaker 2SLU-nine BAM. People love that. And without talking too much, right? But it's, it's like the funny thing is SLU-nine is there to make your mitochondria
24:16Speaker 2essentially through electron transfer is making your mitochondria less efficient. So you burn it's basically BAM is just a straight fat burner. People have show similarities with DNP. DNP is that 1 that was a well, it's dangerous because it heats your body temp up way too high. So I wouldn't suggest anybody take DNP, but, similar, but, but much safer, but it basically just it's a fat burner because it makes your body or your mitochondria
24:48Speaker 2You would think that they counteract each other, but really 1 works upstream, 1 works downstream, so they do not counteract each other.
25:25Speaker 1People love it. They love that product. That is for sure. But gosh, there's so many to choose from. Yeah. I
25:35Speaker 1man. Well, that was awesome. Our 1st, our 1st, have to again give a shout out to our team who have just put this together and worked their butts off and got everything moving. I have a couple tweaks here and there, but, our 1st podcast in
25:58Speaker 1Couple of things still need a couple of weeks, but man, we've come a long way. Watching that video on how far, man, God is good, dude. Good stuff. So
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