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0:24Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast.
0:27Speaker 1I'm your host, JD Denham, across the way.
0:30Speaker 1Not in a in a jacket, is is
0:33Speaker 1my partner,
0:34Speaker 1my cohost and buddy, William T. Haas. What's up? What's up, dude? I it's so funny. So we were laughing off screen about how I'm never cold ever, ever, ever, ever. I don't like wearing jackets because I don't like taking them off and having to lug them around. When I walked out to my truck this morning, I was like, dude. It's cold. Freaking freezing today. I went back and got a jacket,
0:56Speaker 1which
0:57Speaker 2now you're not, and I'm wearing 1. Like, the tights have turned. Right. Well well, tights kind of have turned, but it's not like I'm the cold I'm a cold 1 always. You know what I mean? Like, I'm always hot also. California is weird. Me being from Washington State, you wear a jacket and kinda long sleeves throughout the day. You know what I mean? California,
1:13Speaker 2it sucks. If you wear a jacket, it's gonna come off by noon. Like, you just wear it or anything long sleeve. It gets too hot quickly even the middle of winter, but it's cold right now. Yeah. So you're used to that. Hands are my fingers are, but I did walk in with a tank top on, but I just worked out before Yeah. So
1:29Speaker 1Equinox?
1:30Speaker 1Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yes. Funny. So you're used to that. So Californians, so me at least, I I would rather
1:36Speaker 1walk through the cold, like, from the from the car to the restaurant and just be freezing my butt off and not having to take the jacket off and hold it. I don't know if it's California thing, but Maybe. I'll leave the jacket. I always forget it. I'll where the hell is my jacket? Hot damn. I left it right. I mean, I think you're rare though for Californians. Most people, if it's 65 degrees, they're wearing a parka, and they're like, it's too cold to go to work today. Right.
1:57Speaker 2So in Seattle, if it's 65 and sunny, people are wearing It's in the beach. Their Birkenstocks
2:02Speaker 2and
2:04Speaker 2Short and funny how that is. And but it's kind of I mean, the good thing is a little bit of, like, bright sun and at least 65.
2:11Speaker 2They're stoked. It it's they're stoked, people are happy, and the streets are alive. Right? It's
2:16Speaker 2it doesn't take lot to get everybody
2:18Speaker 1happy now. Right? I'm pissed and, like Yes. Yeah. But usually, we're hiding in our homes. Is there that's funny. Is there a lot of
2:25Speaker 2suicides and stuff in in in Seattle? Think so. Yeah. Because of that. I think that Seattle There's gotta be a correlation. Absolutely. I think Seattle's, like, the number 1 superstar in Isn't that crazy? Date in the nation. Yeah. Always gloomy. Also, I think there's also that whole correlation between that. There's probably also the most, like, heroin ODs.
2:41Speaker 1His heroin's up big up there. Yeah. Yeah.
2:44Speaker 2It's always been known for that. It has always been known for that. And so yes. But there is a lot of suicides. When I used to run gyms,
2:50Speaker 2people would be, we we had, like, a corporate deal with Microsoft, so we had a lot of people coming in from different states.
2:55Speaker 2And they would all be like, yes. I'm depressed. Like, I'm taking my vitamin D pills Oh, wow.
3:01Speaker 2Because they're not used to this gloominess. But me, I was born in the dark. Like, it didn't really matter. You know what mean? Like, I was like, well, this is light. So, you know, you just I know. Your your socks are always kinda damp and your shoulders are always wet, and that's just how you live.
3:13Speaker 1That's interesting, dude. Yeah. Like, where you live, you grow up with. Like, I I would grew up in SoCal.
3:19Speaker 1Right? It punk rock. Just I don't know. That's I it's I always think, man, if I was born in, like, I don't know, like, Missouri,
3:25Speaker 1blah blah, would I be to the same type of music? It's so cool to it's cool to that. Although that's kind of a generational thing too. That's true.
3:34Speaker 2Although the coasts
3:36Speaker 2always get the stuff 1st. Right? They're always more progressive and So Cal for sure. And sets the tone. Yeah. It does. Sets the get all all the stuff from international. Right? Comes over to the coasts. These guys pick up the trends, and it slowly leaks into the middle of the country. And they're the last ones to get things. Think it's probably changed a little bit with the Internet, but like, so when I was when
3:56Speaker 1I was younger, you know, I have a cousin in my mom's side that same age as me, so we'd fly out to Texas every once in a while and like, you know, obviously he and I would hang. And like, dude, I'd hand me with all of him and his buddies and I'd be like, what are you guys wearing, dude? Know? Because they're wearing like trunks and stuff. I'm like, dude, what? Bro,
4:13Speaker 1don't talk to me. You know? It's just funny though because we set the trends. Then soon after they were wearing the same Pepso. Yep. Yep. Soon after. Crazy.
4:21Speaker 2But, yeah, now I know there's a better life here.
4:24Speaker 2Like like, damn. Now it's getting now it's hard to go back. Even when I go back, most of my family's in Texas and
4:30Speaker 1even there That's strange. Mean humid as shit, bro. I I can't even believe the humidity. It's miserably humid. No. I couldn't do it. I, I think I probably told you this, but I I flew out to Austin and it was not I don't remember what month it was, but it wasn't like a hot month.
4:46Speaker 1And dude, by the time that I got from left the airport to walk to the Uber place, I was drenched. My shirt, I looked like I jumped in a pool. Yeah. I got to my buddy's house. He's like, what is wrong with you? You're
4:57Speaker 1hot here, dude. And
5:00Speaker 2just nasty bugs.
5:01Speaker 0Good.
5:02Speaker 2California. So we got You bitch about the cost. We got it good. I mean, really is that good. Yeah. Right. You know, people everybody bitch about the cost and says, hey, cost is
5:11Speaker 2I was literally listening to radio, and they were it was like conservative channels, and they're bagging in Newsom, which they regularly do, which they have a which,
5:19Speaker 2like, I don't necessarily disagree with. But, also, there's got to be
5:24Speaker 2I mean, there's some economic factors that's, like, not kinda his fault because everybody
5:28Speaker 2wants to live in California.
5:30Speaker 2That is racist prices.
5:32Speaker 2When there is that much demand Sure.
5:35Speaker 2Our prices just go higher. Now there's I'm not defending Newsome by any means at all. Like, he's the anyway. Yeah.
5:41Speaker 2We'll leave it there. I found yeah. I find the politicians that
5:45Speaker 2have like, this is why Hillary Clinton mostly didn't win the election because she was annoying. Her, like, voice.
5:50Speaker 2And you some people like him, but, man, his speech patterns just bugged the shit. Horrible.
5:56Speaker 1You know what like politics?
5:58Speaker 1Yeah. Nothing. Nothing.
6:00Speaker 1Yeah. That's you know, it's funny. Brandon
6:04Speaker 1and I were talking about this earlier. She's like because we were talking about, like, I did a podcast last night with Justin, and we went political, man, and I'm I I'm just apolitical. Like, people think I'm super conservative and, like, they're wrong because I don't I think they both suck. Yeah. And they're both liars. I'm like, I lean more conservative, but, like, I hate all politics. You you you are basically libertarian.
6:24Speaker 1It's basically you just want No. You left alone. Right? I want my individual whatever you want. Yeah. Like, I don't think it's weird. Yeah. Okay. But that's cool. Like, you can think I'm weird and, like, let's just be friends. Yeah. How hard is that? Right. I know. But it's hard. It's apparently.
6:39Speaker 1Well, we have a new toy.
6:41Speaker 1And Will,
6:43Speaker 1my buddy, who is my techie friend and he's my intelligent friend. He's waiting, he's chomping at the bit for our new toy. So how this little toy came about, I told him, I said, Well, you know, my buddy Mark has this, this, and this.
6:55Speaker 1And we'll be Will had it within a couple of days. Yeah. So that's who he is. And so we continue to try to elevate this podcast.
7:03Speaker 1It's been a blessing. Hopefully
7:05Speaker 1you guys have seen that we've elevated it because the
7:08Speaker 1viewership's gone up, so that must mean something. So obviously, visuals and sound effects work. So now you're gonna have some additional sound visuals,
7:17Speaker 1which we will show you here momentarily.
7:19Speaker 1But today
7:21Speaker 1is the peptide of the week podcast. It's not the q and a. We are gonna be talking about 2 peptides,
7:27Speaker 1which my wife, my bride has been bugging me to talk about Kisspeptin because she wants to get pregnant. Yeah.
7:36Speaker 1I'll keep my a mom's word for me. I'm
7:39Speaker 148, so I'll leave it there. But my beautiful bride wanted me to do this. So we're doing that. It's Kisspeptin.
7:45Speaker 1And then we're doing the 2nd 1 we're gonna be is TA-one, which is Thymosin Alpha-one, which is I think both of 1 of our favorites. It's definitely 1 of my favorites. It's kind of funny because I think there's still a lot of people that don't know about it because
7:56Speaker 1I see people all the time, they're sick, and I'm like, have you taken thymosin alpha-one? And they're like, no. What's that? I'm like, oh, really? Okay. Cool. So TA-one
8:03Speaker 1is great. It's an immunity peptide, but let's start with Kisspeptin
8:08Speaker 1because we're gonna talk a lot about the fertility Sure. Yep. Of, you know, for men and women. So why don't you dig into that? So we'll let's let's start to bust. Cool. I'm not good. I get to use my the toy. So forgive me. I just kind of learned how to use it too.
8:21Speaker 1We were doing before we were filming, he was playing with it, and then we were just watching him. He loves it. He he got He's from Seattle. Yeah.
8:28Speaker 2Right. The land of Microsoft. So I was born doing computers. Right.
8:32Speaker 2Okay. So, Chad, so this is so we're gonna talk about Kisspeptin. Yep.
8:38Speaker 0Let's
8:39Speaker 0see if this works. Beautiful.
8:41Speaker 2So here is how Kisspeptin works.
8:45Speaker 0Oh.
8:46Speaker 0We're gonna do this with a microphone.
8:49Speaker 0So There we go. Kisspeptin for men. Okay?
8:52Speaker 2The interesting thing is Kisspeptin nasal spray and actual, like, injectable peptide. Yeah. So Kisspeptin goes in and 1st works on your brain. Right? Your hypothalamus
9:02Speaker 2creates this GnRH
9:05Speaker 2signal,
9:05Speaker 2which then goes to your pituitary, which also in your brain. Pituitary
9:10Speaker 2helps basically tells your body to make some testosterone, but it also is is what we've talked about helps your body make
9:17Speaker 2HGH, natural HGH. Okay? But for this purpose,
9:22Speaker 2Kisspeptin goes in. Hypothalamus tells GnRH,
9:25Speaker 2goes to your pituitary. Pituitary then tells
9:29Speaker 2your testes.
9:30Speaker 2These are ovaries,
9:32Speaker 2these are testes.
9:33Speaker 2They're the same thing. Everybody just just realize that men have or have ovaries,
9:38Speaker 2they've just dropped.
9:40Speaker 2So it breaks onto 2 things, luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone. This is important.
9:47Speaker 2Luteinizing hormone
9:48Speaker 2basically tells your testy to create more natural testosterone.
9:52Speaker 2Okay? And make your gonads a bit bigger, but that will actually give us effect of of what testosterone
9:59Speaker 2does.
10:00Speaker 2But not so much actual fertility.
10:03Speaker 2K?
10:04Speaker 2This guy, your FSH is more fertility. So your sperm is actually, like, active and and useful for making babies.
10:12Speaker 2Okay? So this is it's a basic easy feedback
10:15Speaker 2loop. Okay?
10:18Speaker 2And then, right, your body makes more endogenous testosterone
10:21Speaker 2and intratesticular testosterone.
10:23Speaker 2Sperm production
10:24Speaker 2equals fertility.
10:26Speaker 2And secondary, because of these, libido, erection quality for men. Now women,
10:32Speaker 2women,
10:33Speaker 2basically, the interesting thing, it's the same damn thing. Literally. Right? Literally the same it's the same process. Generate. Okay. Except for it goes luteinizing hormone, FSH in their ovaries. Okay.
10:43Speaker 2Benefits, follicle development, ovulation, estrogen production,
10:47Speaker 2and progesterone production. So these are kind of our main hormones for women,
10:54Speaker 2women who are in perimenopause.
10:56Speaker 2Right? We have
10:57Speaker 2issues with these productions. So it would lead us to think that Kisspeptin would be a great thing to take in perimenopause.
11:03Speaker 2Right. Also for women trying to get pregnant just like men. So men, women, I'd suggest it. Creating fertility.
11:10Speaker 1So for 1 of the things that I like to talk about, because, well, I studied it because of my body. As I as I said, she is still breastfeeding, so she's not able to get pregnant. She can, but it's pretty rare. But this is gonna help as she comes off of that to really start to
11:25Speaker 1keep her, get her fertile to
11:27Speaker 2be blunt. So it will really help with that. Now here is the thing. Those men who are on
11:33Speaker 2TRT. We know you're gonna ask. We we we knew that. Is the problem. Kisspeptin's probably not for you. Okay? So it
11:42Speaker 2when if we have exogenous testosterone, which your body goes, hey, I have a lot of testosterone. I'm good. This axis right here, this signal
11:50Speaker 2goes, nope. I have a lot of tests. I don't need to tell these guys to light up and make more. So literally,
11:57Speaker 2goodbye,
11:58Speaker 2goodbye,
11:59Speaker 2and goodbye.
12:00Speaker 2Yes. Does not work on TRT.
12:04Speaker 1Right. Okay?
12:06Speaker 2Unfortunately. So maybe get off TRT, then it'll work. Or if you know if you haven't been on it Yeah. It'll work.
12:11Speaker 2Options.
12:13Speaker 2So options are so HCG,
12:16Speaker 2like, a lot of people know HCG and take that for fertility or for post cycle reasons.
12:20Speaker 2The benefit with
12:22Speaker 2HCG is it skips the brain activity. Right? It skips this whole axis,
12:27Speaker 2and it just floods your body directly with luteinizing hormone. Okay? Just directly pushes, pushes, pushes. But realize that that's the testosterone making portion, not the fertility portion.
12:40Speaker 2K? But the caveat really is if you push enough of this, it does start to trickle over into the FSH because people will say, well, wait a minute. I've I mean, you, you took an HCG and got your wife pregnant. Twice. So that's the reason. Twice.
12:55Speaker 2So there's
12:58Speaker 2yes. So HCG just pushes. If you're on TRT, that's probably what you wanna take. Take a lot of it.
13:03Speaker 2Next is
13:05Speaker 1we'll save this for later. Yeah. So there's The TA 1. So we'll so it's interesting as he's as he's talking about about all that stuff. So the the fertility stuff's gonna be great. The the the Kisspeptin helps with the fertility of men and women, which is great. However,
13:20Speaker 1as he just said, you're running TRT,
13:23Speaker 1it's not gonna work. So we've said it numerous times, and it was great to have Doctor. Tyler on because he really validated what we kind of already, I don't say kind of already knew, were unique because we've worked with so many guys and friends and working through the HCG
13:37Speaker 1that in his dosage was very similar to what we said. Yep. So which is great because basically 1000 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I don't think it's gonna be an exact math, but I have done 1000 IUs
13:48Speaker 2Monday, Wednesday, Friday, multiple times, and it's worked. Multiple friends that we have worked with Mhmm. Just suggesting that it works great. You know? And it sure works. Like, he was talking a lot of sex drive. Yeah. He was saying, don't do an AI because that kills your estrogen. We need Estrogen is a sex hormone for for men and for women, just a little bit in men. But don't do that because that you you do too much, and it kills off the estrogen, kills too much, and now we have no sex drive. So but he's a big proponent of HCG.
14:17Speaker 2He's got every point of and and it is working because that's the thing that is helping men create
14:22Speaker 2more natural testosterone.
14:24Speaker 2Mhmm.
14:25Speaker 2But not so much more natural actual, like, active sperm. Right. But it does kind of work. So that's why you will if if people read up online, there's a ton of difference of opinions Yeah. Amongst doctors. They go, great. HCG is good for post cycle, but not good for fertility. Right. That's why. But we have found proof is in the pudding. Like, I don't know. I mean, reading
14:45Speaker 2these these documents, right, is 1 thing, but I
14:49Speaker 2almost I kind of tend to Are they always right? Obviously. They're absolutely not. And, we have more practical experience than most and a lot of it. I know. And it proves that
14:59Speaker 2you can boost that testosterone enough where it turns into the FSH and can help your actual sperm go. What I found interesting about Doctor. Tyler,
15:08Speaker 1even kind of compared to Doctor. Scott, I mean, very similar and very similar opinions, but man, his numbers, man, he ran his numbers extremely high. I don't I was very surprised by that. His estrogen,
15:19Speaker 1he likes his estrogen higher. He likes his, obviously his free testosterone was super high and his testosterone.
15:25Speaker 2And I don't know. Did you find that odd? Dude, I found it very odd, but he happens to be but, like, again 240 free testosterone. If you if you put that to most of guys, they're gonna have gyno
15:35Speaker 2and acne all over the place and look plump and round with all the water retention. So, like, maybe he just happens to be that type of person who doesn't really, like, show Yeah. A lot of those estrogenic symptoms. Because I think most people, if you if you test out like that,
15:49Speaker 1you're gonna not be happy. Yeah. And you're gonna have to take an AI to get rid of that. Yeah. I mean, everybody's different in the estrogen and converting to estrogen. I mean, I've studied it just for my own just because I've, you know, had battled it for years.
16:01Speaker 1Generally speaking, if you're, as you would, about 50,
16:04Speaker 150, I think marker on the estro gel. Give or take.
16:08Speaker 1Sounds about right. Convert where, he was talking about a lot higher than that. So it was interesting. We love this stuff. You probably convert.
16:14Speaker 1You have to
16:16Speaker 1obviously trial this stuff. You have to we talk about it all the time. It's funny because
16:21Speaker 1I've said this story before, but I'm sure there's a lot of lot of new listeners when it came down to my bride trying to get pregnant. I want to talk about the story again because it's a great story. And
16:31Speaker 1my doctor at the time, who I respected greatly, still do, we used talk to him often. He
16:37Speaker 1knew a lot about a lot and I respected him and I trusted him and it wasn't a lack of trust or even I think necessarily knowledge.
16:46Speaker 1That's what they practice. Like they're continuing to learn as we all are, But he was telling me that I couldn't get my bride pregnant coming off. I had to come off TRT and I'm like, Dude. And I drove home thinking, There's just no way, man. Like, how do these big buff,
17:00Speaker 1like, you know, steroid dudes get their you know, they're they have babies. So, like, I just started to use logic. I'm like, Dude, there's gotta be a way. And I just went home and studied and started reading.
17:10Speaker 1I'm like, Oh, wait,
17:11Speaker 1it does say that you can. And I brought it back to him. And again, I want to be just be redundant for reason. He's great. I love him. I respect him. He knows a lot about a lot. Like, he and I, like, would have conversations. He loves all this stuff too, you know?
17:24Speaker 1But he was wrong because I was like, Can you prescribe me this HCG? Because he's like, I don't think He says, I can kind of see how that might make sense, but like, I don't think it's gonna happen. And I'm like, so he had left it in my head that it's not gonna happen, but I had read that it could happen. So
17:40Speaker 1I went, he prescribed me HCG. This is like years ago.
17:44Speaker 1And I didn't think it was gonna happen because he made me think that it wasn't gonna happen because I respected him, but I did it anyway.
17:50Speaker 1And my Alyssa got pregnant and she showed me it and, like, I didn't know how realistic those things are because if you had never Googled it, never seen 1. Now she's holding the plus and, like, I'm like, dude, I don't think that's real. And then I Google and it's like 99.9%
18:04Speaker 1accurate. I'm like,
18:06Speaker 1He was wrong.
18:08Speaker 2Was wrong. Still didn't believe you. You said, Hey, I got pregnant. He's like, Yeah.
18:12Speaker 1So the coolest part of that is like, so we had the baby, my son, Jax, and everything's great. You know, my wife wants to have another baby. And so now it had been, you know, I think 2 years or give or take, and she had stopped breastfeeding and it's time to have another baby. And so I go back to doctor
18:27Speaker 1and again, respect him heavily. She wanted to come this time. She had some questions for him. And so we go to the doctor, we're talking, and he just said, JD, because he's become a friend, you know. He
18:38Speaker 1said, JD, I love you, man. He goes, I
18:41Speaker 1gotta be honest with you. Think God just blessed you. And I'm like,
18:45Speaker 1I think so. But I said,
18:47Speaker 1I had read it, you know, blah, blah, blah. And so, you know, we both kind of left a little deflated still because it kind of put it back in my head. But he prescribed me the HCG and I took 1000. I use Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It took months to kind of build up and then baby 2. So
19:02Speaker 1then after that, I called him. I said, Hey man, you know, I just had another baby. So the HCG worked, dude. You know, and he's like, you know, kind of surprised. Months later,
19:11Speaker 1I get a call from a doctor
19:13Speaker 1and he goes, hey, brother.
19:16Speaker 1My wife wants to get pregnant. I don't wanna come off TRT. What is the dose of protocol that you did. Yeah. Bad story. Yeah. But the part of that is funny and is a good story is the fact that doctors are great. Some are better than others.
19:29Speaker 1They call it practice for a reason, but like the
19:32Speaker 1books say this,
19:33Speaker 1but if you have thousands of other people that you see hands on that it has worked
19:39Speaker 1over here.
19:41Speaker 1What's right?
19:42Speaker 1Like, you know, we have firsthand knowledge about what we do for a living now on so many different compounds on different things that
19:49Speaker 1doctors say this because they read it here and that's what's in the journals or whatever. Over here, it just says very differently. Yep. And it just works differently.
19:58Speaker 1So everybody's
19:59Speaker 1body body different. A lot of it, but but some of it's just that stuff's wrong. Well, yeah, and our body's just effing complex. Like, God made us,
20:09Speaker 2like, really, really complex and and very effective Seriously. Efficient Right. Body.
20:13Speaker 1And we don't quite understand. Why do some men convert to estrogen and some don't? Like, I had a lot of buddies that never dealt with gyno, and I was always like, dude, why did I get this shit, man? Like, I can't even do hardly any Tesofen,
20:25Speaker 1but, you know, this is the way it is. Yep. It's the way it is.
20:28Speaker 1Interesting stuff, man. So Kisspeptin
20:30Speaker 2dose so here's the last bit about Kisspeptin that I don't have in my
20:35Speaker 2yes.
20:36Speaker 0Videos. So,
20:38Speaker 2basically,
20:39Speaker 2our this production
20:41Speaker 2here is 1 of those testes,
20:43Speaker 2is
20:44Speaker 2pulsatile.
20:45Speaker 2Very similar, not I mean, similar to, like, our HGH production. Right? It's pulsatile. So it so we shoot in pulses. There's no, like, steady
20:53Speaker 2stream of LH and especially FSH. Okay? So what happens if you and actually, right now, clinically, they are using Kisspeptin
21:02Speaker 2into people where they give them high doses and very frequent dosing to shut off their fertility.
21:08Speaker 2K? Because when we have too much of a flood of these coming in, this axis decides, whoop, let's just shut down. Let's we it gets blunted, and it just will stop working. Okay? So they're actually using it clinically to shut people's fertility down. So the important thing is if you wanna use this for being fertile Yeah. You need to not do a lot. Yeah. And you need to do it not very frequently. And so I've,
21:31Speaker 2basically, my suggestion or what I'm going to do is,
21:35Speaker 2I mean, it's 1 to 3 times a week. No more than that. Not every day, definitely, but, like, 3 times a week max. And I did the calculation for, like, my body weight, and I'm about 2 42 45.
21:46Speaker 2I'm doing I should be doing about 140
21:49Speaker 2micrograms 3 times a week.
21:51Speaker 2That's it. That's it. That's very small. Right? Yeah.
21:55Speaker 2You know, 1 mg
21:57Speaker 2is 1000 micrograms. Right. So
22:01Speaker 2that's about where I'd say I'd say between 100 to 150
22:04Speaker 2micrograms
22:05Speaker 13 times a week is about all you want to do. Very little. Okay? If you have a bottle of 10 mg, we generally would recommend
22:13Speaker 11 mil of water put in For sure. So to keep it simple math, 10 units would be 1 mg. So Will is saying 150
22:21Speaker 1micrograms.
22:22Speaker 2So that's a very little So frankly, even if you put 1 mil in, okay, and you do 5 units, that's gonna be 500 micrograms.
22:31Speaker 2So you should put 2 mils. You probably should put 2 mils. If you put 1 mil and you do 2.5 units, that's 250
22:37Speaker 2micrograms. So There it is. I'd probably add 2 mils. Yep. And that makes it so 5 units is 1000
22:44Speaker 2or is a 500 micrograms.
22:47Speaker 2It's already 5 5 5 units is already 500 micrograms.
22:52Speaker 2At 2 mills. Yeah. At 1 mill because
22:54Speaker 2it is. I promise. At 1 mill, 5 units is 500 micrograms.
22:59Speaker 2At 2 mills,
23:01Speaker 2then
23:02Speaker 2we're gonna double that.
23:04Speaker 2I don't know. I'm gonna on the spot, forgetting.
23:07Speaker 2But 250?
23:08Speaker 1Yeah. I think it'll be 250. It'll be it'll be 0.5 of that. Yeah. It makes sense. So that that because, like, as, you know, we've definitely
23:17Speaker 1continued to grow. We continue to learn and like when we I mean, we're talking like, I think a year ago, I was taking Kisspeptin because
23:25Speaker 1fertility,
23:26Speaker 1libido, I was sure reading about it and I was like, this is freaking dope. Let me try You know, I always wanna try everything. You know, why not? Because I wanna see how my body responds
23:34Speaker 1so that I can like kind of pass out on other people, blah blah blah. At the time,
23:39Speaker 1right or wrong or different,
23:40Speaker 1we had the dosages very different. I was taking it daily. Yep. I always try to do the mouth where it's 10 units basically daily,
23:47Speaker 2and it was way too much. Yep. So, yeah, so we are right. If you put 2 mils in, okay, and then you do 5 units, that's 250 micrograms.
23:56Speaker 2Okay. That's still a little bit much. So we still wanna do, I mean, shit, 2.5.
24:00Speaker 2You could add 3 mils That's probably best. Then do I mean, and here's the easiest math. So I'll just go long time. 3 mil, take your milligrams, 10 mg per bottle Mhmm. Usually.
24:09Speaker 2And if we put 3 mils in, I was trying to teach Randy this, but I divide that by 30. 3 mils will do 5 units. And that will tell you how much is in 10 units. Yep. K? The milligram 10 divided by 30. Let's see if you put 3 mils in, tells you 10 unit how much is in 10 units? But you're gonna have to do that on your calculators because I don't know how calculate it. But still though, like, what we're this as we break this down, I think the simplest way to do it is 3 mils. Yeah. And then just do 5 units because anything under that is just like, you do 5 units and that's basically a little bit. That's like 300
24:40Speaker 1probably. Yeah.
24:41Speaker 210 divided by 30.
24:44Speaker 210 units is 0.33
24:46Speaker 2micrograms. So we divide that by 2
24:48Speaker 2and 1.6.
24:50Speaker 2So I would do 3 mils and inject 5 units. Yeah. Agreed. That's 1.5
24:55Speaker 2micro or 150.
24:57Speaker 0Right.
24:59Speaker 2That's the to it. The to do it. So that bottle will last a long Friday. Bottle will last a real long time. Oh, that's great. So that's great.
25:05Speaker 2But if you're on TOT, don't do Some other things, folks, like if you
25:09Speaker 2so the interest that we can go over this later, but there is something known as HMG.
25:13Speaker 2Okay?
25:14Speaker 2That
25:15Speaker 2works like the HCG where it skips this loop and just floods you, but it floods you with both of these. K? LH and FSH. Okay? Whereas just the HCG just floods you with LH. Right. Why don't we then tell everybody to do HMG? Right? Well, you need to do about 75 IUs Right. 3 days a week. Okay? And 1 bottle of 75 IUs, they'll cost you on, like, the kinda inexpensive end about $90.
25:40Speaker 2So Thousands a month? Yeah. You're at 270
25:43Speaker 2a week,
25:45Speaker 2like, on the low end. And who knows? You might have to do this for 6 months, maybe a year. Will and I were talking off screen ways. We were kinda talking through this, and, we've only had 1 friend that has done it. Yeah. And we know him. He's got the money to do it. Yeah. And it worked. Yeah. And it worked. And it worked. Yeah. Well, it worked. So, like, it's funny, though, it worked, but he also was on HCG. Was also on HCG for a long time. Yeah. And, like, he actually only used, I think, 4 bottles of the kit he bought, and then she was pregnant.
26:11Speaker 2And he just gave me the rest of the back. He's like, I don't need any money back. Just He's
26:16Speaker 1a good dude. Yeah. But, yeah, so there it is. So,
26:19Speaker 1there it is. That's Kisspeptin.
26:21Speaker 1Definitely works with the fertility. If you're on TRT, don't do it.
26:25Speaker 1Just get on the HCG,
26:27Speaker 1fellas. You
26:28Speaker 1it works.
26:30Speaker 1It I we can't say 100% certainty, but it definitely works, man. We have countless
26:35Speaker 2people there that Alright. So then we got our we'll go into
26:39Speaker 2Thymosin
26:40Speaker 2Alpha. Yeah. We're gonna skip through these. Here's a big long big slide of a whole bunch of noise here. MS-eleven 1 is basically immunity.
26:49Speaker 1It's it's the immunity peptide.
26:52Speaker 2Go for it. Okay. So it's immunity peptide. Interesting.
26:55Speaker 0Well, I think this stuff's interesting, but Yeah.
26:57Speaker 2Okay. What it does, it basically
27:01Speaker 2your T cells, our helper T cells and our killer T cells are actually born in your bone marrow. Alright? They go to this thymus gland right here to be trained. Okay? This thymus gland
27:13Speaker 2basically trains them on how they do their job. Help T helper cells identify
27:18Speaker 2essentially
27:19Speaker 2viruses or pathogens,
27:21Speaker 2and the T killer cells kill them.
27:24Speaker 2TA-one is basically gonna multiply the amount of t of those cells and
27:30Speaker 2really kinda put them through, like, special forces training. Right? Really, really, really train them up so they're way better at their job.
27:37Speaker 2So here's our t cells. Right? The cool thing about this is so it
27:42Speaker 2so as thymosin alpha is going in your body, when we see a, like, a pathogen,
27:48Speaker 2your body will identify that pathogen way better and
27:52Speaker 2tell killer cells, hey, kill that thing. Get it. So it's really, really good about that.
27:57Speaker 2In this diagram,
27:59Speaker 2the man's he's got glowing testes that was not supposed to be there,
28:04Speaker 2but they're there. But good for him. He just did Kisspeptin also. Yeah.
28:07Speaker 2So the good thing so, a, it's gonna boost immune system when it is weak and really identify
28:13Speaker 2cancerous cells,
28:15Speaker 2you know, in diseased cells
28:18Speaker 2and attack them, but also
28:20Speaker 2the immune natural modulation.
28:22Speaker 2So
28:23Speaker 2it is not just an, like, an immune stimulator.
28:26Speaker 2Right? It will balance out. So a lot of people have an overactive immune system. You're wondering, well, you have you have an overactive immune response
28:33Speaker 2on something right now. Yep. It will tell it will notice that and modulate that, right, and say, hey, overactive immune system. Let's chill out, slow down, which in turn reduces the hell out of inflammation.
28:45Speaker 2Yeah. 1 of the biggest things that Thymosin Alpha does That's 1. Is do that. It basically seeks out any overactive immune system and
28:52Speaker 2which reduces inflammation. So if we're looking for overall body inflammation,
28:56Speaker 1TA-one is your So he's talking about is an autoimmune. A lot of people are autoimmune, so that's basically what he's saying. If you've been auto and there's so many autoimmunes, it can really help with a lot of them. Yep. So here is and essentially, this is just showing a thymus gland,
29:10Speaker 2special forces training ground recruitment, T helper cells, and T killer cells.
29:16Speaker 2Overactive immune, so it's immunomodulatory,
29:18Speaker 2not immune stimulating.
29:20Speaker 2Here is our big list of benefits. Right? Enhanced immune memory,
29:24Speaker 2improved immune coordination, strengthens response to vaccines and infection. Boom. Balances innate and adaptive immunity,
29:31Speaker 2improves immune tolerance,
29:33Speaker 2support and recovery after immune stress,
29:35Speaker 2helps restore immune responsiveness, improve infection resilience, and support immune surveillance.
29:41Speaker 2Cancer defense.
29:42Speaker 2It is being known to be used as an adjunct treatment in some cancer scenarios.
29:49Speaker 2K.
29:50Speaker 2Here's my
29:51Speaker 2here's my quick analogy. Right? If your immune system were a military, TA-one improves officer training, right, training the T cells, improves battlefield communication,
30:01Speaker 2reduces friendly fire, which is your autoimmune overreaction,
30:05Speaker 2and keeps troops from overreacting,
30:07Speaker 2cytokine control.
30:09Speaker 2It makes the system smarter and more efficient and not just more aggressive. And finally, like, just to
30:15Speaker 2it the stuff works. So it is being sold under the brand name Zadaxin
30:19Speaker 2in, like, 35 plus countries
30:21Speaker 2and actually being used for chronic hepatitis B and C sepsis immune suppressions
30:26Speaker 2cancers as an adjunct treatment and COVID immune support. And I'm allowed to say that because it actually is approved
30:33Speaker 2and being used for that. So
30:36Speaker 1there's TA 1, dude. It's awesome. Mean It's awesome. On. If you fly without TA 1, you're silly. Because what when people get sick a lot, so many people get sick when they fly. So you should be taking it, I would say, at least a week before you fly, week after you fly, and it will help. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I I don't get sick that much by itself, but I know that you and I have talked about this, but it's so it's it's a great story, and there's like I said, there's always gonna be new listeners. And I
31:02Speaker 1was in Mexico when everybody got sick at this this all
31:06Speaker 1you can eat place. Everybody. Like, there was like 50 people that went to this darn wedding,
31:12Speaker 1my wife included, but I was the only 1 on TA-1and I didn't get sick. Now, I don't get sick that often anyway,
31:18Speaker 1but I was on Thymosin Alpha-one,
31:20Speaker 1and, I was the only 1 literally the only 1 I got sick. My wife and kids came back just
31:25Speaker 1really sick.
31:26Speaker 2Stuff works, dude. It works. I always use it when I think, yes, flying. I don't know, go on vacation or or Where were you? Then I'm like, did you take TA 1? You're like, no. I'm like, what are you thinking, man? Right. But I was sick. Was it up north? Just no. Yes. You went to the pool Seattle game. Yeah. Yeah.
31:41Speaker 2And I did not take it with me, and I did get sick. Although I blasted it while I was sick, and I was good in a day and 0.5. That's crazy. And I can't remember the last time I've actually been actually sick Right. Since I've known about this and since I've taken it. My wife, every time, man, she starts to feel sick, we, we blast her to TA 1 and then, you know, some extra glutathione.
31:59Speaker 2But Glutathione, b 12, some, like, vitamin b 12 injections.
32:02Speaker 2B12.
32:04Speaker 1I mean, that's a little cocktail that I think if you're sick, the glutathione,
32:07Speaker 1B12,
32:08Speaker 1and just TA-one would really bust you out in a couple of days. 1 thing that I want to say, because I've done quite a bit of research on it,
32:16Speaker 1is
32:17Speaker 1it really does help with a lot of autoimmune issues
32:21Speaker 1because a lot of people have those. It really can. 1 of the things that I've read though, is that if you have a flare up of an autoimmune issue, which I have often,
32:31Speaker 1That's why I was researching this particular situation.
32:34Speaker 1It can actually enhance it. So I don't know. I don't really understand the why of that. But if you have an actual flare up of your autoimmune
32:43Speaker 1and you take it, it can actually
32:45Speaker 1flare it up. And the reason I researched that because I felt like like
32:50Speaker 1I was having flare ups way too often. Was like, What's going on here? You know? And I think that might have been the culprit. Yep. It probably was. We've been told that. We've researched
32:58Speaker 1to that, and that may be true. So It just it goes back to everybody's different. It goes back to everybody's different. It goes back to, like, there's tons of different autoimmune issues. You just won't know until you try it, and it just takes some trial trial and error on on all of our partners. So what do you guys do for doses? What what kind of dosage were you you and the wife using? Yeah. So generally speaking is if you're gonna get a a 10 mg bottle, you're gonna put in generally, we say about a mil. Yeah. Right? So that's and I always kinda keep it easy. 1 mg. I think you do a little bit more. I do. Yeah. I do, like, maybe 1.5
33:30Speaker 2mils. So I'll put 1 mil in. It mixes very well with water, so you don't it's not you only need 1 mg. It's not like you need to over dilute it because there's so much powder or it's tough to mix into water. But I put 1 1
33:43Speaker 21 ml of water, which is a 100 units of water. And then I generally do, yeah, about a mig and 0.5, so 15 units.
33:51Speaker 2But you don't rent, like, run it for a longer period. No. You don't it when you get sick. I rent it when I get sick or maybe going in there or or hell, even like if you've been I noticed here's what actually something funny. I noticed when I've been starting to get when I'm starting to get run down a right, not sleeping, like working too much or just working out too much, I start to get like a hangnails.
34:10Speaker 0And
34:12Speaker 2because and it's interesting because, like, I'm not my tissue is not growing back fast enough. Right? So
34:19Speaker 2it's, because when we sleep and we're eating healthy, right, and we're getting enough rest, right, everything should be
34:24Speaker 2growing back. If we're eating enough protein, your fingernails should be growing fast. Your hair should be growing fast. Right? That's 1 way to know if a person's trying to build a lot of muscle, like, alright, eat a lot of protein. And how do you know if you're eating a lot of protein? If you're nail if you're getting like, damn, dude, I just clipped those things. We gotta do it again. That's a good very good sign. Right. K? Because it's just growing tissue. But I definitely noticed, like, stuff isn't repairing
34:45Speaker 2as it should, but that's it's that is how I notice it. And then I actually will start TA 1 and run it for maybe a week and 0.5, and I don't get sick. Yeah. Or
34:53Speaker 2any other markers, but I don't run it consistently. I know my girl to combat inflammation.
34:59Speaker 2Yeah. She will absolutely do it, and she's been doing this for, I think, a few weeks now. I'm just going 3 days a week.
35:06Speaker 2She went every day while she was sick and then kinda backed it off. 3 days a week, but she really wasn't even sick. Yeah. She had, like, maybe, like, some sniffles for a night. Right.
35:16Speaker 1Yeah. I run it in different forms. I do it for,
35:19Speaker 1I'll do it for, like, like, a couple months at a time and just do 10 units. I I try to keep everything at 10 units, so we've talked about it before. Just to keep it simple, so I don't know. I don't have to, like, think through when I'm doing it in the morning.
35:31Speaker 0Oh, but no Botox.
35:33Speaker 1Botox. Yeah. So Botox is interesting. So 1 of the reasons why my wife stopped taking it on on more of a regular basis Yeah. Is our
35:41Speaker 1our Botox gal. She's a nurse practitioner.
35:44Speaker 1She owns a couple of wellness centers, and she's brilliant. She's gonna come on the show, I think, next week. We're gonna try to get her on. I've been talking to her about it forever. She's a very interesting gal. You guys are gonna love her. Her name is Lee. She flies all over the world, and she does different studies on all kinds of stuff. She just is like, she loves she's a geek on all this stuff. Anyways, all that being said, but for women. Yeah, she's gonna be talking about she she just started doing pellets and TRT, so we're gonna bring her on and talk about that TRT for you ladies.
36:11Speaker 1We're gonna talk about some different stuff to keep you pretty and healthy and all that stuff. She's great.
36:15Speaker 1But she had told my wife that the TA-one, it will actually diminish
36:20Speaker 1Botox. Yes. It'll make it it'll flush it out of your system faster. Yeah. Cause it's supposed to last. So I don't know. I, I how I got into Botox, how I got into Botox. I when I stopped it for it was very weird. I don't know if the coming off drugs is a callous or just was a coincidence.
36:38Speaker 1When I stopped, I've been sober for 15 years.
36:41Speaker 1When I had got sober, I
36:44Speaker 1I had my armpits just
36:47Speaker 1drip sweat, like a faucet drip sweat.
36:50Speaker 1And I just figured I was detoxing. I had done drugs for a long time. Listen, this is gonna run its course. And it literally, I think 2 years and this never stopped. And I was like, Dude, what the hell is going on here? So I started researching it, blah, blah, blah, figured
37:03Speaker 1out that you could put Botox in there and it would stop it. So that's when I started going in and get Botox.
37:09Speaker 1Then- Maybe that's why you're so hot. Your body can't ventilate itself. Well, that's interesting. So then I got the Botox, it worked because I used to be like, you know, run a mortgage company, like dripping sweat. It was horrible, you know? So then it worked and I was like, this is amazing. So that's how I got into Botox. That's how I met Lee, ironically.
37:26Speaker 1But a
37:27Speaker 1little segue here in 2. So when I started with this head thing, this autoimmune,
37:32Speaker 1I sat down with a holistic doctor, which was very interesting. Have you ever done that? Very interesting how they approach So I sit down. It was actually Kate's cousin,
37:42Speaker 1Christy. Remember Christy? Yeah, I think so. So I
37:46Speaker 1sit down with her. It was a 3 hour interview basically of like my life, all the things that happened. Like she digs into life. And what I was interested by this was I'd never had She's not a doctor, but like it was holistic medicine. Just
38:00Speaker 1digging into asking me deep questions about stuff that, man, I didn't even thought about that forever.
38:05Speaker 1And long story short, after I left and she had said, Let me get some time. She'd obviously done deep thinking on it.
38:12Speaker 1She called me and said, I think it might be the Botox you're plugging.
38:16Speaker 1Right? I'm like, Well, that's actually pretty freaking logical.
38:19Speaker 1So it was the interesting part about that and the
38:23Speaker 1point of that was that
38:25Speaker 1should be how doctors do it to a degree. Like,
38:28Speaker 1how do you sleep? How are you eating?
38:30Speaker 1Because another reason I say that is when I was talking with Doctor. Scott about my blood work,
38:36Speaker 1was the reason that I had generated that is like, I was exhausted. I just felt so run down and I take a lot of peptides. I'm healthy,
38:44Speaker 1but I would just run down.
38:45Speaker 1Long story short, he goes, Well, how are you sleeping? I said, I sleep like freaking shit. And he said, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. So if that we don't talk about it enough. Sleep is so freaking important, dude. And I'm realizing because
38:59Speaker 1I have 2 kids, a 4 year old and a 2 year old, and there's constant screaming and they climbing in our bed and I'm getting kicked like a ninja.
39:06Speaker 1I don't sleep well.
39:08Speaker 1If I'm not sleeping well a few days in a row, it compounds and that literally is what the culprit is.
39:14Speaker 2You guys aren't sleeping. I can't stress enough. Sleep is a huge, huge, huge thing. You grow, that's when you prepare. That's when long term, short term memory goes long term. If you're lifting weights and wanna grow and you're not sleeping, you ain't gonna grow that fast. And you're not enhanced. I always you know, I've seen these bodybuilders who are obviously, you know, pro pro bodybuilders steroid it up and then tell everybody like, oh, I work so hard. I sleep 3 hours a night. You know?
39:35Speaker 2And And everybody's like, what's that for? You do well. Sleep was was good. Well, yeah, but here's the thing. If you're in the hands Yeah. Your body just grows 24 7. So you don't the sleep isn't as you know, if you're blasting that many steroids. But for the normal people and most of the population, sleep's in very, very important. It's the only way that you're gonna grow any muscle.
39:54Speaker 2So know that. Get smarter. Get get if you're sick and you're not sleeping, that's part of it. It's that's a huge part of it. I mean, that'll make me sick if I don't sleep much. Yeah.
40:05Speaker 2Yeah. I think that's it. Mean, it's almost an alpha. Cool. It's awesome. More people should do it just, I mean, even for the
40:11Speaker 2anti inflammatory
40:13Speaker 1capacity of it. Yeah. Do not fly without it. I know I said that, but trust me, get some TA-one before you fly. I would suggest take it a week up to you before you fly. Take it a week after guarantee you won't get sick.
40:26Speaker 1I take. Guaranteed.
40:27Speaker 1Guaranteed. It is guaranteed.
40:29Speaker 1Guys, we wanna ask you 1 more time. We throw you throwing it around and we don't even know if we want to jump in this pool, but we are constantly trying to enhance
40:38Speaker 1the
40:39Speaker 1podcast,
40:40Speaker 1give you guys what you like. We're trying to figure out if we want to do 3 a week, which is going to add a lot to our plate, but that way we do a pepatide of the week where we do 2, like we've been doing the Q and A, which you guys love so much, but we want to maybe have a doctor on every week. And so we're trying to figure out if that's something. So give us some feedback if that would be something that you guys would want and we will consider it and think
41:03Speaker 1through it. But as you can see, we're trying to enhance the experience and the listening experience.
41:08Speaker 2We
41:09Speaker 1love this stuff. We try to get better at dorks when it comes to this stuff. We love it, man. I love it. Yeah. So, yeah, maybe Lee next week, if not the week after. You ladies are gonna love her. She's very knowledgeable. We're gonna dig into the testosterone
41:21Speaker 1hormone
41:22Speaker 1replacement for you gals. We talk a lot for men, but she's gonna be able to break it down for you Oh, yeah. Last thing on Botox, actually, I we are a friend
41:31Speaker 2in a lot of maybe girls know this, but she gets hers injected in here to calm because she's got a lot of headaches and neck pain, so she gets a Botox injected in here because it
41:40Speaker 2relaxes
41:41Speaker 2the nerves, etcetera.
41:43Speaker 2Also, what you should try if you don't wanna spend a lot of money on Botox is injecting SNAP-eight
41:48Speaker 2there.
41:49Speaker 2K? Because we know SNAP-8s SNAP-eight is tough when, like, we our facial serum, great, because you're top it works where it goes.
41:56Speaker 2So you don't you know, nobody's people aren't injecting SNAP-eight in their face, but that's kind of the drug that makes Botox Botox. But it's a whole bunch cheaper,
42:05Speaker 2and it will generally work, you know, locally, not as great as Botox or else there'd be no point to Botox, but that might be something to try
42:13Speaker 2for overactive.
42:14Speaker 1Botox that come in her in her jawline because she bites at night, and it helps, like, really good. I don't remember the name of it. Yeah. TMJ.
42:21Speaker 1And it did she does it like every, I think, either 4 months or 6 months or something, and it works. Wow. Okay. So good stuff. But that is the show.
42:30Speaker 1Hope you enjoyed it. We will see you next round. Good night.
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