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1:39Speaker 4I am your host JD Denham and not across the way from me for the 1st time sitting right next to me today. Actually, you've sat next to me a few times back today. 1st started. Though. We 1st started. My good friend and cohost, mister William T. Haas. What's up, man? It's good to be here. I'm like floating also against this back the black background with a black shirt. Yep. We got a lot of people in this room right now. It's a little hot. We gotta turn the AC off, so that's part of the game. But we got 2 gentlemen sitting across the way,
2:22Speaker 4hair restoration. He's the owner of My HairMD. Right next to him is the general manager of HairMD,
2:37Speaker 5who are you? Tell us a little bit about you. All right. Well, my name is Sam Borge. I'm a physician.
3:29Speaker 2I think it's and it's looked it looks incredible, and everybody tells me that. Like, damn, why does it look so good? Because I didn't go to Turkey and do it like everybody else. But
3:39Speaker 2you being a ER doc, which means you're doing surgery and have to have good hands, like, damn, that the hair transplant is a labor intensive process. It still blows my mind that you couldn't do it. My big ass dumb hands would like,
3:58Speaker 5a different type of a surgery, you know, the kind of surgical procedure that I've been used to are
4:21Speaker 4much more relaxing process actually doing it. Yeah. Let's put it that way. You said though that it's time something's happened in your life and it's time to kind of change the pace. Now, is that coming from you? Is that coming from your bride? That's a good question. Yeah, man. I think
4:37Speaker 5I'm married. Both sides. We all are. Both sides are involved in that decision, I think. Yeah. But honestly,
5:03Speaker 5being able to take care of your family and spend time with your kids and watching them grow. And so think that really
5:11Speaker 5was the driving factor in all of this. And, yeah, my wife likes it too. I'm working less nights. I'm not working on the weekends and yeah. So But you still are working hard. Like, you just came here. You've been at work for 24 hours. That's true. I yeah. I've been working 24 hours. You drove straight here. Right? I mean- You're used to it. I
5:46Speaker 420 years in an ER with what you see on a daily basis, which for most of us, we wouldn't want to see it for a day.
7:02Speaker 5You know, we are professionals when we are at work. Yeah, you're in the zone. We're in the zone. We're taking care of patients.
7:12Speaker 5that may not go as planned with 1 patient affect how you take care of them. Yeah, you stay emotionally detached from it. You have to. Yeah, you have to. You do. Right. You can't do this job otherwise.
7:29Speaker 4like snipers, for example, are a certain breed. They're cut from a certain cloth. Is an ER doctor cut from a certain cloth?
7:38Speaker 4that's what you chose. That's right. You're talking about like high pace. Like we've all been in an ER, like, holy shit. Woah.
7:49Speaker 5Is it a certain cloth that you you all are Yeah. Think? I think I think I think there definitely is a certain type of personality that can thrive
8:06Speaker 5going to classes for 4 years with the same people. You get to know some of your classmates.
8:11Speaker 5And then at the end of med school, when everybody chose their specialties and sort of settled where they wanted to be,
8:18Speaker 5you kind of think yourself, oh, that makes sense. That's the kind of person that would do
8:30Speaker 5tend to be kind of more social. We get along with people. Can communicate in general pretty
8:37Speaker 5well with all types of people, and that's something that we have to do on a day to day basis.
8:49Speaker 5that's that's abusing drugs right next to the CEO Yeah. Of the Fortune 500 company Right. Yeah. Jason Gertes. And
9:03Speaker 5And it's important to be able to kind of establish that rapport with the patient in a very short time so I can get the information I need to best treat
9:19Speaker 2everybody who is super calm and laid back and not a is the 1 who does well in the yard. I I think you're right. You
9:29Speaker 5and you can't really get too stressed out in in these situations because Right. Well, the patient's sensitive when you're like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, the nursing staff senses it. I mean, even even amongst emergency physicians, there's a little bit of varying temperament, but in general, yeah, we are more laid back. We can deal with the stress and we
9:50Speaker 2handle it a lot better than some of the other Yeah. Types of doctors out there. Does does every doctor have to start or at least do their internship or I know that I forget the word, but you'd know it, in an ER?
10:02Speaker 2Is that like the always the starting point? No, not necessary. Do you have to do any type of training like mandatory in an ER? So
10:12Speaker 5take the 1st couple years, it's basically book time. Okay. You're just, you're just learning and you take boards,
10:22Speaker 5which is a standardized test all across the board, and then you start the last 2 years rotations where you're actually working clinically. So you're no longer in that kind of school setting. You're out there. And some
10:43Speaker 5rotation, but, you know, you learn a lot about yourself as you do those rotations. You know, you do you kind of ask yourself, can I do this
10:52Speaker 5for the rest of my career? Can I can I work in this type of aesthetic? Is this something that's gonna make me happy?
11:02Speaker 2kind of pathways for for students. It kinda strikes me as, because he's right. All these questions, that is absolutely true. It seems like that's a rough job for 20 years, and there's a way easier way to do it. Right?
11:21Speaker 5that we are. Same life? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes. It's good know. It doesn't always go, you know, like that. You know? For sure. You deal with things
11:29Speaker 5that don't work out the way you intend. And you always you're playing with fire all the time. Somebody's gonna get burst, you know, occasionally, and that's just
11:38Speaker 4an unfortunate part of doing the job. But, yeah, it is very fulfilling when it goes well. But do you I don't know if he answered it. If he did, I'm sorry, but I wanna ask it again because I'm curious. So is 20 years a general, or is that a long time? I would imagine most people fizzle out within what, maybe 10 most? Or do some of the practice? I yeah,
12:02Speaker 5they do branch out, but 20 years, yeah, it's a long time. I'm not sure, like, what the true average is, how many, like, how many people last that long, but
12:13Speaker 5to do it for 20 plus years. I mean, there's people out there that are doing it for 30 years, 35 years before they before they yeah. Yeah.
12:43Speaker 5do different things. Yeah. But, yeah, I do love it. And a lot of the ER docs I know, do love it. Trying something different, evolving. I mean, they were supposed to. Evolving. Exactly. Right? I
12:56Speaker 4has changed in those 20 years. What do you what like, kinda break that down a little bit. That's kind of intriguing. What did you mean? Yeah.
13:05Speaker 5been a lot of changes even from the time that I started. I mean, I think 1 of the things when you're
13:15Speaker 5the focus is really taking care of patients. The economics of medicine is less of a factor.
13:58Speaker 6Before we get lost and forget about it. Yeah, that's all good, man. It's all good. So I've been in this business for 15 years. I'm the general manager here. I basically consider myself the utility man. I do everything. I can assist her in surgery,
14:20Speaker 6when I went in there, you were the artistic 1, right? Correct. Yep. It helped us. If I ever heard of mine. Yep. Yep. We do it together, but I get it started. Yes. Keep it nice and natural looking. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, your hair is looking great. So
14:36Speaker 6Yeah. So you're still in the infancy of it. It's just gonna keep getting better and better and better. Yeah. Well, thank you. That's exciting. Yeah. No. It looks great. And Blake, when you just you guys, you know, I went in there and
14:48Speaker 2you took a Sharpie to my head, right? Yep. And said, okay, here's this is how we're gonna make your hairline. And you said, you don't want
14:58Speaker 2distance away, right? Because you walk in a room- You can draw his attention to it. Yep. And
15:14Speaker 2you got no frame. And now we just kind of look strange with some hair on the top. A little hair hat. But also you guys, when you drew it, it was a jagged line. Right? Correct. Up and down and up and down. Yep.
15:25Speaker 6And uneven on purpose. Right. And that's how it grows naturally. Right? So when you push it back, it's not a straight line. Right? You can't tell you had a hair transplant. Right. Whereas the opposite end goal. Right? In other countries, they may not do that or care. No. Yeah, you can just see in their advertising, not doing it, especially in Turkey. I'm
15:44Speaker 6not saying they don't do good work. They do, the hair grows, but it's not as natural looking. And
15:58Speaker 6told me that there were specific hairs that you implanted there. That's correct. Tell me about that. Remind me. Along the very front of the hairline, we actually use single hairs. Okay? For most of you, if you don't understand, a hair graft has 1 to 4 hairs in it. And if you stick 1 in the front that has 4 in it, you can see it a mile away, especially for guys like you and I with very soft hairs. That means 1 follicle,
16:19Speaker 64 hairs grow out of it. Right? That's the average thing. So is that average? I'm not what's the average
16:26Speaker 6per graft. That's right. So you and I have a lot of ones and twos. I can just tell by looking at have fine hair. Right? He has a lot of threes and fours wise. Hairset aren't thick. Lucky bastard. Right?
16:40Speaker 6they have a petri dish that and then the quadrants. Right? It has ones, twos, threes, and fours. That way, know where to place them, but we always put little singles in the very front to keep it soft and natural looking.
16:50Speaker 6And in fact, too, we try to pull those hairs from the side because they're even softer than the hairs from the back. Nope. There's a lot of artistry involved in this. Put.
16:58Speaker 2The hair so it is pointing the right way as opposed to pointing like this way? Yeah. So when when you're making incisions to kind of create
17:23Speaker 5that takes time and it takes you know, you sort of have to be spatially oriented and kind of look at a big canvas and
17:36Speaker 2balance. And that's important. Know, just like everything else in the medical and surgeries, like usually, well, in this whole world, everything is automated.
17:49Speaker 2a way to do that without humans? And I don't even know if it's possible. Sure, sounds like it's probably not a good idea. Yes, it's not So there are machines that Yes, are more
18:00Speaker 6don't have it, but my understanding is a lot of the times the physician has to go back in and do a lot of the extraction and do a lot of the site making
18:07Speaker 6on top of the machine doing it to keep it looking natural. The human hand has to be involved.
18:18Speaker 5the feel of when you're doing the procedure, like, the machine can't always sense, like, how deep things have to go when the certain give
18:43Speaker 2the procedure and you kind of get that feel for it. Because I could hear it all. Mean, like as your I couldn't feel it, I think, because you guys numbed me up appropriately, but you can hear in your own ears
18:53Speaker 2the puncture going cutting through the skin. It's like a little crunch. Yeah, it's a little crunch and you have no way to stop. You can't just chisel it and make
19:11Speaker 2everybody, I've got my hair transplant and this podcast is about talking about peptides and
19:18Speaker 2getting, I don't know, getting healthy, everybody getting healthy, happy, living your life better, doing anything that makes us, if you look better, you feel better, you better, you play better.
19:27Speaker 2We're talking a little bit about this and this is what you guys do. Give us a quick or tell us how it goes. I'm a new patient, from start to finish, kind of how a hair transplant goes.
19:37Speaker 2We just talked about a little bit of it, but I don't know. Share the mic somehow. It's a process. I mean, you know,
19:44Speaker 5whole procedure itself will take somewhere between 6 to 8 hours, depending on how many grafts we're working on. So, if you take 3,000
20:13Speaker 5it doesn't have as much of an effect on the hairs in the back. Really? So that's why we take hairs from that area, but you essentially have to remove
20:27Speaker 2And we say reminisce. It's not plucking hairs. It's literally cutting out the entire circular It's
20:37Speaker 6compartments in the petri dish? Yeah, that way they can understand we got ones, twos, threes, and fours. Yeah, you wanna make sure you don't put any of those heavy ones up in the front because you can see them a mile away. Wow, interesting.
20:47Speaker 5It's a lot of it has to do with kind of the optical illusion. Right? Yeah. The artistry of it, you take
20:54Speaker 5some of the grafts, the the grafts that have 3 or 4 hairs, you basically get more coverage if you put those in the thinner areas in the back. And it's not as,
21:06Speaker 5but what you want is some density back there. And that's kind of what helps because you have a very limited you have a limited number of grafts that you can work with. And that number is what? I know we did something like 3,000 or something like that. Yeah. So,
21:19Speaker 5mean, 10 maybe. Yeah, it depends on on everybody's a little different, but it's somewhere between
21:26Speaker 16 to 10 thou I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. Botox, Autobotulinum
21:36Speaker 2Toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia
22:13Speaker 2gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects.
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22:53Speaker 2grafts in the donor zone. Right. And that's why you can you can't obviously take all of them out because then you'll be bald in the back. And those will never be, those are not growing back. There is You're the follicle out. You're taking the whole follicle out. There is no recovery time. I was actually, I had it in my brain like, alright, I gotta wait, you know, 6 months and then those will replenish themselves back here. Yeah, they don't grow back, but
23:17Speaker 5some of the follicles that don't have healthy hairs or are in a bad sort of part of the
23:27Speaker 5kind of convert them back into the healthier part of the process or, you know, and those
23:41Speaker 2but you not get new follicles. They don't regenerate. Oh, yeah. Didn't know that. But so some people can be like halfway bald. They do it bad.
23:57Speaker 6That's why when we do the FUE, we spread it over such a large area. Yeah. Because if you do too many too close together, you'll be able to see through your hair. It looks patchy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you've done it for 15 years, you said? Yes, sir. Yep. In the 15 years, has the process changed?
24:12Speaker 6Oh, it'll be pretty much been this way for It's similar. Some of the tools have changed. The artistry has definitely changed depending on where you are.
24:19Speaker 6I'm pretty anal about that stuff. It's, you know, my name's on it, so I wanna make sure that it looks very natural. Like, we've taken into consideration the age appropriate hairlines, etcetera. Yeah. Guys want these straight hairlines across the front. We're not gonna do that. Yeah. African American, yes, we'll do that or maybe Hispanic because they like to line it up nice and straight.
24:37Speaker 6But for a white boy like yourself, I'm not gonna do that. Yeah. Like, I'll argue in circles with these guys. They're like, oh, they're rounded off. No. Rounded hairlines are for females. That's right. Yeah. There's male hairlines and female hairlines. Now they draw this smile.
24:50Speaker 4We're not doing that. Sorry. Has there been a difference in like So in the last 15 years, has there been a difference in
24:56Speaker 4what you've seen come in like more men losing their hair maybe because diet or lack of nutrition or overweight.
25:03Speaker 6Plethora of stuff that we deal with. Would say it's the same, to be honest. I haven't really noticed much difference. We
25:10Speaker 6are getting a lot more patients coming in now that are concerned about eyebrows and we do facial hair as well, Right? So,
25:29Speaker 5They're they're more inclined to do that probably now than they have been in the past. And I think especially, like, men. I mean, you know, women,
25:37Speaker 5it's kind of have been Yeah. It's changed. More open to it. Right? But but men are becoming more open to to it because not only I mean, you look better, you feel better. And that's that's an important part of it. Having improved
25:49Speaker 5morale helps you in a lot of components of your life. That confidence will this a bit in regards to The stigma. Botox. Yeah. Maternity Botox,
26:03Speaker 4Wasn't okay. It wasn't manly before. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's okay, you can age well. Yeah, you can age well. You can age well, you look good. You're losing your hair. I mean, I'm just gonna wear a hat.
26:15Speaker 2rather have the hair transplant than anything with a dentist, but I would like to go under general anesthesia for my next dental- Especially the root canal.
26:23Speaker 2Just, when I was a little kid, they forgot to, they were giving me a filling and they, so that jagged needle that they put into well, they usually put the topical anesthetic on you 1st. They neglected
26:35Speaker 2and I could just and I was little kid, I didn't wanna say anything. I knew it was coming. I was like, yep. But, well,
26:44Speaker 5hurt really bad. So I'm always Oh, there's different, yeah, there are different ways to do local anesthesia. I mean, sometimes they're doing nerve blocks. So you basically just do 1 injection,
26:52Speaker 5try to anesthesize the whole nerve, which may take out a part of the jaw or, I mean, a part of the scalp. Like, we can do nerve blocks as well to kinda make it a little bit easier. And I yeah. And, like, to be fair, I remember
27:22Speaker 2real fast. I had my, was playing basketball several years ago and had my, I got an elbow to my
27:27Speaker 2lip and it was cutting like in 0.5, like down to down to the skin, right? And I went to the ER and they gave me a little injection,
27:38Speaker 2Like, the doc had to come back 4 times. Yeah. I'm like, nope, still feel it. Another 1, still feel it. And then at the end of my, dude, it's just not gonna just do the stitches. They're definitely Feel everything. It's okay.
27:51Speaker 6Yeah, he knows that. Patients patients are different. So- I think when you work out and you're in shape, it makes a difference too. He knows I burned through it quick too. Towards the end, I'm like, feel that a little bit. I mean, it's not brutal.
28:08Speaker 2more. It doesn't hurt more. You just put color in at the end of the day. At the very end of the When you're just beat up and fragile, and that's why it hurts so much. And
28:34Speaker 2medical advice, but I take peptides because I like them and I take them for all healing me everywhere else. And so I did, hell, I use words like GHK- shampoo
29:00Speaker 2that has made it grow back so well and not ever like- Is that common? Falling out, but is that common or what you guys do for follicles? So,
29:51Speaker 2I know you're not allowed to write, tell based on because of your You did not tell me to take these things, right? I know I'm asking you not that questions because you're not allowed to answer on air, but still. So,
30:09Speaker 5we're a full hair restoration clinic. You know, our bread and butter is hair transplant, but there are
30:17Speaker 5to kind of help with hair restoration. So, you know, some of the treatments that we offer, you know, with regards to
30:51Speaker 2we do more than just hair transplant. So I think there are options for people. What about medication? So I actually, because so like I probably lost some of my hair because I was doing testosterone. Yeah.
31:25Speaker 2Why is that? Why would I take that? Why did I take that? You're taking it to block the conversion of DHT,
31:34Speaker 6the hair follicles and then eventually won't come back. So this helps block the miniaturization.
32:23Speaker 5it up to push blood. Yeah. Through nitric oxide, it'll help with blood flow vasodilator. Yeah. It it works a bit differently. I mean, as far as
32:43Speaker 6What does it cost? We going talk Sure. About Yeah. So we average about $3 per graft basically. So normally FUE is $3.50 a graft and then FUT, which is the strip method, the older method is $3 per graft. It's great. It's real easy pricing
32:57Speaker 6based on graft numbers. Everything's included. All the medications included, you don't have to go pick it up at the pharmacy.
33:07Speaker 6So if I say it's $9, it's $9 out the door. There's no hidden cost. We don't charge you for some places charge you for, like, the gowns. They charge you for your aftercare meds, none of that stuff. So real simple pricing. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of variability in pricing out there. I think 1 of the things that's important for us is
33:37Speaker 6But there are lots out there charging $30. Well, I was gonna say the kind of work we do, we should be getting $5 a graph. The issue is it's very competitive. Like, I think we do some of the best work around, honestly. This guy's got it locked in. And what did your neighbor remember?
33:53Speaker 4Your neighbor? Well, I had no idea. I've never even looked into it and my neighbor had had it and I was like, I'm starting to leave my hair on top.
34:06Speaker 4to do that. And then he's outside watering his lawn in the backyard. I'm in the backyard. I'm like, Hey, man. I said, so you know you had the hair transplant. I'm all, what does that cost? Like, you know, and he's like,
34:26Speaker 4wear a hat. Was he in Newport Beach? Most likely. I don't know where he got it done, but that's where we lived. But I had no clue that that was the cost of it, but his looked like crap. I don't know if he doesn't listen. Didn't spend that kind of money. Well,
34:48Speaker 2a lot more sense to go to you guys because even just straight price wise, like all of the money that I would spend and time off of work and hassle in travel,
35:01Speaker 2made up the difference of me just having to drive to San Diego. I did get a hotel room there
35:25Speaker 6I'm assuming there's financing. There is financing available, yes. And you guys finance? We don't finance the house. Have several connections for 1 who finances. Yeah.
35:36Speaker 5I mean, we try to make it easier for patients to do it. I mean, I think also that we talked about the difference between, you know, going to Turkey, a price, any part of it, but it's a different experience here. You know, I contact every single 1 of my patients.
36:00Speaker 5not necessarily doesn't work like that when you use somebody on a continent far away has your money and
36:17Speaker 4bedside manner, I guess, is the way to say that. So is that what you're trying to do? Because you're talking about
36:50Speaker 520 years, I see patients at the of the tail end of their disease process and that emergency situation where something bad really happened to them, and you try to kind of pull them out of that situation. I think it's important to,
37:16Speaker 5and, you know, age well. Yeah. And that's that's hair is 1 component of it, but there's there's other things I like to be to do and I'm already kind of working on. Tell us about those things. So what's next? What are you doing now? What else is what other projects do you guys have? So, yeah, we're
37:33Speaker 5Well, 1 of the things I'm doing now, I'm working with another doctor, a buddy of mine, also an ER doc, and we're gonna be
38:10Speaker 5corporate medicine has sort of dissolved some of that patient physician relationship that really makes medicine
38:18Speaker 5special. So, you know, it's important for us to try to focus on that. And so we want to do something different in the telehealth world. Like what? What are some of those? Like being available?
38:59Speaker 5even just like hair restoration is gonna be part of this, some of the more wellness longevity
39:04Speaker 5kind of treatment plans. We're getting started, we're gonna be definitely incorporating
39:12Speaker 5these, making adjustments to plans. And, you know, a lot of times, we don't see that in a lot of these bigger telehealth websites. You know, it's about Turn to burn. Yeah, exactly. Get get you on a subscription
39:31Speaker 2her friend telling her, Hey, this is what I do. They're like, All right, I just want to get that. And I just want to I'll just find the easiest way to get that. Right? Right. Even though that totally may not be right for her whatsoever
39:42Speaker 2and people are unique and just because her friend got good results doing 1 thing, and just told her all about the good highlights and not about anything bad. Right. She just goes, Oh, I just want this for cheap.
40:05Speaker 4doctors have lost some steps and rightfully so, they prescribed stuff and they didn't know what was in it. So I would imagine that's affected
40:13Speaker 4how you're treated. I don't know if it would bleed on to maybe ER doctors as much as maybe certain doctors,
40:25Speaker 4right? And they deserve that trust because you guys have worked for it. But if you're prescribing something to somebody you don't know what's in it, that's a problem.
40:39Speaker 4problems with doctors is because of that. So if you just get back to, I think kind of the basics and doing what you just said, which is great,
40:57Speaker 4That's how doctors should get back to, I think. And if you do that, I mean, that's Sure. I mean, medicine is not a 1 size fits all And
41:11Speaker 5you fall into this category and you're gonna get this treatment. And that's not always the right move. I agree with you. I mean,
41:23Speaker 5we've also put in a lot of time and a lot of years and and we've we've studied a lot and it's Sure.
41:31Speaker 55 minute chat GPT conversation doesn't always cover, you know, what we know. So, you know, there is
41:58Speaker 5I think in general, like, you know, there should be some value. Have you noticed patients
42:08Speaker 2And starting with COVID, I think was the 1st, well, maybe not 1st, but like, right, really opened a lot of people's eyes, made a lot of people skeptical
42:21Speaker 2And I guess it's for everybody. But yeah, have you noticed a change in how people have
42:31Speaker 5that time was a very unique time. Right? So you're talking about a global pandemic Mhmm. With
42:47Speaker 5it was all unknown, like, how this is gonna turn out, but I showed up. Like, I went there every single I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more.
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44:23Speaker 5especially at the very beginning, we didn't know if we were gonna die. Sick. Yeah, because
44:28Speaker 5there were doctors that were dying. So, but, you know, we felt it was important to take care of people and even
44:38Speaker 5the other docs out there, a lot of specialists, they closed up shop. They stayed at home. But,
44:57Speaker 5doing COVID tests and introducing COVID into us. Yeah, I Why why would I do that? Right. Right. You didn't think I'm gonna make what it's get. Right? So things were just coming out of left field. It didn't really make much sense. Sure. I think
45:20Speaker 5honestly, that's now I was thinking about it. I was like, listen, I'm needed right now. Like, I yeah. I'm I'm here. I saw plenty of people die. I mean, like, you saw people dying in the waiting room. Like, it was it was happening. Like,
45:32Speaker 5it was real deal. And then, you know, things kind of dust started settling a little bit. Know? Some of the vaccinations came out and
45:55Speaker 4Know, get But back to I think it's easy to do that because you've already said it. You have earned your right for the respect. You have done things that we don't want to do. I don't want to go to school for 20 years. Know it's 20 years, but you know what I mean? You've earned it. You're a
46:10Speaker 4I think it'd be very easy, which is just do what you were trying to do is spend some time with the people and learn about them and try to truly help them and That's see symptoms what
46:34Speaker 4really start to want to get healthy. And that's amazing because the food we eat is shit, it's poison. There we breathe is shit, it's poison.
46:42Speaker 4Could go on and on and off. I mean, the food is fake and you know what I mean? And people finally know that. Now we can start to seek
46:50Speaker 4true health, which is why our peptide is amazing because they're chains of amino acids, you know? Mean, there's other things that you need to do. But that's what we're Yeah. Mean, focusing on
47:25Speaker 5disease processes or even keeping people healthy, mean, that's on us. We shouldn't be doing that. That's a problem. So,
47:33Speaker 5you know, guys talk about it. This is a gray area a lot of times, unfortunately, but it's going to change. It
47:43Speaker 2met you a while ago, several months ago, right? And you came in here and you were starting to like, okay,
47:49Speaker 2doctor, I want to learn more about peptides, right? You said, I hear nothing but good things, but
47:58Speaker 2them. And you did tell us, you go, I guess when we were saying goodbye, you're like, okay, well, I need to go establish
48:08Speaker 2I can even He get into the said, I got a lot of research to do, right? And that is the right attitude. It wasn't about money. Was about that's- We
48:34Speaker 5too. I don't wanna be stagnant. Like, sure, I can save you. I can save your ass if I need to, like, in emergency.
48:49Speaker 5be happy with their day to day life and improve their day to day existence too. The science is there. Science is there.
49:17Speaker 2doctors were just, Oh, medical rep, tell me what I should give them. Okay, I'll give them that. Right.
49:29Speaker 2should be slow played because there isn't enough research and you don't want to be giving people something you don't know much about, right?
49:37Speaker 2Unfortunately, so there's a devil's advocate argument, right? Say, you don't want me to give people, you don't want me to give people things that I am not 100%
49:45Speaker 2what they do and what the long term repercussions are? Well, shit, that means I can't give people
50:18Speaker 5gonna be more information, there's gonna be more studies, there's gonna be well designed studies that
50:27Speaker 5And that's just science. I mean, it's gonna take time. Unfortunately, we lag sometimes behind it, and there's gonna be the early adopters, right? And those are the guys
50:48Speaker 5close minded. I'm gonna be willing to change. I'm gonna do my research. I'm gonna learn.
51:14Speaker 2forecast all of just because they're so simple, some of them, KPV is lysine, proline, and valine.
51:23Speaker 2see what just just looking at it and knowing what we know to know what the potential bad things this could possibly do even long term? Because it's so simple. Right? Shouldn't we be able to
51:33Speaker 5forecast that or so? There's a lot of factors. Right? You know, you talk about a lot of dosing
51:46Speaker 5Like, what happens if you change a balance of something within you know, So these kind of things, they take time. However Yeah. You know, there's
52:11Speaker 4literally be blind, like either the doctors like get on board or the trains are passing. Because people want to be healthy in peptides. I mean, the chains of amino acids. I'm not saying they don't have any type of risk, but compared to some of the medications that are prescribed to people on a daily basis, they have little to none. Yeah. I think we could. Even the government's kind of coming on board at this point, right? Didn't RFK-
53:16Speaker 6So, you know, that's gonna there's gonna be a learning curve there for sure. So, Todd, you're buff, leaching. You're ripped up when you see your veins. Like, what do you take?
53:25Speaker 6So What do you do for your physical health, basically? Like, everything. So it's interesting. I am now I'll be 57
53:31Speaker 6years old in September. K. Yeah. 57. Yep. Love it. Well, the hair helps. He did my hairline, so you know. I've
53:39Speaker 6been doing the same workout for 20 years, so it's consistency. I know it should probably change some things, but that's I've been doing the same thing for a very long time. What does the workout look like? Basically,
53:52Speaker 6both bi tri workout, shoulders, and then legs again. Didn't I do my legs for like 20 years since I've had 6 knee surgeries. You know, we played ball. Okay. Yeah. But
54:14Speaker 6hundred 57, and then I take 1 cc a week of testosterone, which I started at 50. You know, I'm not a doctor. I can't give advice, but I would say for most men, you need to look into it. It's game changing. Changing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we talk about this all the time. Yeah. So we everybody knows where our stance is. And for those of you out there who think, oh, you're in shape because you're taking that, it's
54:35Speaker 6cc because that's all they'll give you. Right? They're not gonna give you 400 mg that we you know, right? Like bodybuilders
54:42Speaker 6take. Even then. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm just trying to stay lean and in shape. You said it's consistency.
54:48Speaker 6Absolutely. Consistency. Yes. And I have a 10 a wife who is 10 years younger, so that's motivating, and she works out harder than I do. So yeah. I think we all do, actually. She's all she's into fitness. Dude, she'll work out for an hour and 0.5, and I'm out of there in 45 minutes. Yeah. Right? Yeah. She'll shame me, I'm like, hey. I this is working for me. Yeah. Exactly. Later.
55:06Speaker 6And kids, you have some active kids? Yes. I have stepchildren. Yep. I got a 15 year old, a 13, and a 12. Boys. All boys. So it's been great. Yep.
55:15Speaker 213, 15, 12. Damn. Yeah. So it's in, like, full force. Yeah. Met him with some very young breaking stuff. Yeah. My wife and I have been together almost 9 years now. So, yeah, it's been good. Good for you. Stepfather's good stuff. She is, man. Yep. Yeah. I've, me too. Like, I have a 9 year old. I guess I'm not actually a stepfather, but basically I live with him and my girlfriend's a child and
55:41Speaker 6causing trouble and but at least he wants to throw balls and- Yep. Wait till they get in the sports script. You'll end up coaching like I did. I had no idea I would be a coach, and I've turned out to love it. Yeah. Did coach you said that you're now coaching his tackle football team? Yeah. It looks like I got nominated to be the head coach of an 11 u Pop Warner team, so that'll be new.
56:01Speaker 6Done a lot of that flag football coaching in the past. And then last year, I coached a girls high school flag football team, which was awesome. That's actually the fastest growing sport in the country is girls flag football. I hear about that. I hear people who tell us that they have a daughter and playing flag football and just silly. It's something. I'm
56:18Speaker 6barely 5 10, and some of these girls are 6 feet tall that are on the team. It's crazy. And they're I went to last time I went to Hawaii, we were on the plane with the women's,
56:27Speaker 2they had the women's Hawaiian team. Okay. In flag football, they were just coming back from playing the, like, national championship game, and they had just won
56:38Speaker 2Well, Sydney, it's all other girls their age playing football. And it'll be in the Olympics now too. Really? Which is great. Yeah. Oh, really? Really? Wow. Yep. Girls or bulls? Girls. I don't know about men. I know about women. For sure. Yeah. Awesome. That's interesting. Well, coaching football, so I when I graduated college and and I played college football, my my best friend was the
56:57Speaker 2head, was the athletic director of the junior high that I went to. Okay. Where I'm from, we do junior high 7th, 8th, and 9th grade, and only 8 and 9th graders can play football. So he called me up and said, hey, do you wanna be able to be a coach? So I was the head coach
57:11Speaker 2of the 8th grade, which is JV, right? The 8th graders, he was the head coach of the varsity, but as a D coordinator of the
57:32Speaker 2you know, sitting with them before practice and say like, dude, you'd better do your homework. Like, it's not cool to not do your homework and smoke weed. And then not eligible and
57:41Speaker 2that sucks. And then put a helmet on. So we didn't have enough guys and some of these guys were the 1st time ever. Sure. And
57:47Speaker 2I mean, there were plenty of practices where I just put a helmet on. I'm like, right, you offense, scrimmage, we have like 6 guys on playing middle linebacker.
57:53Speaker 2And went to go and then accidentally thought I almost injured our star quarterback, but shoving them over. But it was a blasted. And I remember,
58:06Speaker 2Nice. But I spent a month with them pre pregame before the 1st game, practicing, practicing, practicing. And then 1st we kick off, great. They get the ball. And I got defense, get out there. Everybody knows their positions. We've been practicing that. They all run out and I have my D linemen are back where safeties
58:29Speaker 2and all the parents behind me are like, what's that coachman doing? Get to your positions,
58:34Speaker 2people. But they figured it out, luckily. And after a couple of weeks, I thought I had 1 of the mothers said, hey, can
58:47Speaker 2she'd said nothing but positive stuff. Said like, the kids love you. Okay, good. And this is like the best they were worried about football. This is the best experience they've ever had. I
58:55Speaker 2guess I'm maybe saying good things about myself, but it really rewarding, and those kids remembered me forever. So, Well, no. Time consuming and it was fun, man. Selfless job. Right? It really is because it's a lot of time. Yeah. A lot of time. A lot of time. Especially football. Like, you have to plan every inch of practice. Yes. Right? Yep. Every day. They mean a mentor,
59:16Speaker 6children. Mean, that's- And you are mentoring. You're giving a lot of life lessons while you're out there too. It's actually really good. Huge. It's a great experience.
59:28Speaker 4Oh, yeah. Everybody that sits here, it's been an hour? That's how fast the call in a podcast it goes.
59:36Speaker 6been listening, they've been intrigued, they wanna reach out, how they get ahold of you? Yes, the best way to get ahold of us and come directly to me. Right? Don't call the office. I don't wanna go into the salespeople. You come directly to me. It's
59:52Speaker 6Okay. Right? Easy. We'll put it on there too. That's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll get back to you really quickly. That's sweet. Yeah. Tell them maybe that they heard about you from this. Yeah. And if you're not in the state, that doesn't matter, right? We can do a
1:00:05Speaker 2online consultation. Sweet. Which is not a problem. And you get the fly, you get an excuse to go to San Diego. That's right. Nothing
1:00:12Speaker 4wrong with that. It was inside tonight. Nice, man. It was inside. It's great. I grew up going to that beach. Nice. Good stuff. Well, it's been a pleasure, gentlemen. I'm sure we'll be in touch,
1:00:25Speaker 2end this? No, cool. Look forward to seeing what you guys are doing. I'm always interested, I guess every new doctor
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1:00:53Speaker 4school platform. It's blowing up. We're about 8,000 people on that now. Will and I are gonna be dropping a lot of content that we don't put anywhere else, but we put on there to our channel so we can see what we want, do what we want. We got full
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1:01:14Speaker 4with Paul back to here, that was a that was a great podcast, so make sure you listen to that 1. That was rad. Other than that, we will catch you on the next round. Take care. Good, folks. Appreciate you. Thank you, guys.