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0:53Speaker 2Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast.
0:56Speaker 2I am your host, JD Denham, and not across the way from me for the 1st time sitting right next to me today. Actually, you've sat next to me a few times back when we 1st started. Before though, before started.
1:08Speaker 3My good friend and cohost, mister William T. Haas. What's up, man? It's good to be here. I'm like floating also against this black background.
1:16Speaker 2I'm gonna throw a black shirt. Yep. We got a lot of people in this room right now. It's a little hot. We gotta turn the AC off, so that's part of the game. But we got 2 gentlemen sitting across the way,
1:27Speaker 2Doctor. Sam, who is a 20
1:30Speaker 2year
1:31Speaker 2ER doctor. Whoo. He has seen some stuff, so we wanna dig into that. That's gonna be a good conversation,
1:36Speaker 2but he's transitioning
1:38Speaker 2to
1:39Speaker 2hair restoration. He's the owner of My HairMD.
1:42Speaker 2Right next to him is the general manager of HairMD,
1:46Speaker 2who is Todd
1:47Speaker 1Padberg. Welcome guys. Nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
1:51Speaker 2Is
1:52Speaker 2my introduction,
1:53Speaker 2but in your own words,
1:55Speaker 1who are you? Tell us a little bit about you. All right. Well, my name is Sam Borge. I'm a physician.
2:01Speaker 1I've
2:02Speaker 1trained in emergency medicine.
2:05Speaker 1I practiced emergency medicine for over 20 years, believe it or not. And
2:11Speaker 1recently, in the last few years, I kind of had some life changes, got married, had
2:16Speaker 1twins, and kind of
2:18Speaker 1needed to change pace a little bit. So
2:21Speaker 1I've kind of
2:23Speaker 1shifted gears and got into
2:25Speaker 1hair transplant and been doing hair transplant surgery for the last few years and
2:31Speaker 1kind of
2:33Speaker 1been shifting the way I treat patients, I think.
2:38Speaker 1It's been So it's been an interesting transition.
2:40Speaker 3And you're good at it. It's nice to
2:43Speaker 3you, I had the hair transplant by you. And
2:46Speaker 3I think it's and it's looked it looks incredible, and everybody tells me that. Like, damn, why does it look so good? Because I didn't go to Turkey and do it like everybody else. But
2:56Speaker 3you being a ER doc, which means you're doing surgery and have to have good hands, like, damn, that the hair transplant is a labor intensive process. It still blows my mind that you I couldn't do it. My big ass dumb hands would like
3:09Speaker 3would mess something up for sure.
3:11Speaker 1So
3:12Speaker 1skills translate.
3:13Speaker 1Yeah. I mean, it's
3:15Speaker 1a different type of a surgery, you know, the kind of surgical procedures I've been used to are
3:22Speaker 1things that have to happen immediately and generally not
3:27Speaker 1always something that you can
3:30Speaker 1kinda take time to
3:31Speaker 1do. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. So Yeah. It was last. But it's
3:37Speaker 1kind of a
3:38Speaker 1much more relaxing process actually doing it. Yeah.
3:41Speaker 2Let's put it that way. You said though that it's time something's happened in your life and it's time to kind of change the pace. Now is that coming from you, is that coming from your bride? That's
3:51Speaker 1a good question. Yeah, man. I think
3:54Speaker 1I'm married. Both sides. We all are. Both sides are involved in that decision, I think. Yeah. But honestly,
4:00Speaker 1I think yeah, having twins,
4:02Speaker 1having children really changes your perspective.
4:05Speaker 1Yeah. You know, when I was young and younger and and single, it, you know,
4:11Speaker 1kind of I'd
4:12Speaker 1love that adrenaline rush of working in an ER. I still do, actually.
4:17Speaker 1But, you know, this is a different type of a rush,
4:20Speaker 1being able to take care of your family and spend time with your kids and watching them grow. And so think that really
4:28Speaker 1was the driving factor in all of this. And, yeah, my wife likes it too. Because I'm working less nights. I'm not working on the weekends and yeah. So But you still are working hard. Like, you just came here. You've been at work for 24 hours. That's true. I yeah. I've been working 24 hours. You drove straight here. Right? Yeah, I mean- You're used to it.
4:48Speaker 1Do like working.
4:50Speaker 1I'm not afraid to work, but
4:52Speaker 1I'm changing the focus a little bit here. So
4:56Speaker 2let's talk a little bit about the ER because that's,
4:59Speaker 2that 20 years? That's a very long time for any career.
5:03Speaker 220 years in an ER with what you see on a daily basis, which for most of us, we wouldn't want to see it for a day. So
5:11Speaker 2talked a little bit off camera about it affecting your psyche for 1 and 2,
5:16Speaker 2cortisol, things like that of just stress levels.
5:19Speaker 2So do you feel that, 1,
5:23Speaker 2is 20 years on average or is that like longer than normal?
5:27Speaker 2Would imagine that would be a hard career to stay for a long time.
5:31Speaker 1Those of us that do emergency medicine
5:34Speaker 1tend to burn out more than some of the other fields of medicine.
5:38Speaker 1Stress levels are high and basically,
5:42Speaker 1you you're running for the 8 hour shifts, 12 hour shift, and
5:47Speaker 1medicine
5:49Speaker 1has sort of changed in those 20 years in a lot of ways.
5:53Speaker 1We we are seeing more patients. We are dealing with
5:58Speaker 1high acuity sick patients all the time. So, you know, and and you really have to be
6:05Speaker 1on point.
6:06Speaker 1Like, you have to be on top of your game. You cannot
6:09Speaker 1make mistakes. Life or death? Yeah. It's life or death. And and, you know, the
6:14Speaker 1that's those are those are high stakes. So it it does take a toll on you.
6:20Speaker 1You know, we are professionals when we are at work. Yeah, you're in the zone. We're in the zone. We're taking care of patients.
6:27Speaker 1You you don't let things
6:30Speaker 1that may not go as planned with 1 patient affect how you take care of it. Yeah, you stay emotionally detached from it. You have to. Yeah, you have to. You do. Right. You can't do this job otherwise.
6:39Speaker 2No. Is it, is it
6:41Speaker 2I don't know if this is gonna like be the right way to to articulate this question, but
6:46Speaker 2like snipers, for example, are a certain breed. They're cut from a certain cloth. Is an ER doctor cut from a certain cloth? Because that's what if you, when you were in med school, that's what you chose. Because you're talking about like high pace, like we've all been in an ER, like, shit. Woah, You deal with that every day, day in, day out, probably days at a time.
7:06Speaker 2Is it a certain cloth that you you all are touching, you think? I think I I think there definitely is a
7:12Speaker 1certain type of personality that can thrive
7:15Speaker 1in
7:16Speaker 1that chaotic setting.
7:18Speaker 1You know, it's kind of an interesting thing when you go through med school, you're basically
7:23Speaker 1going to classes for 4 years with the same people. You get to know some of your classmates. And then at the end of med school, when everybody chose their specialties and sort of settled where they wanted to be,
7:36Speaker 1you kind of think to yourself, Oh, that makes sense.
7:38Speaker 1That's the kind of person that would do
7:41Speaker 1that kind of a specialty. The
7:45Speaker 1students that end up doing emergency medicine,
7:47Speaker 1tend to be kind of more social. We get along with people. Can communicate in general pretty
7:54Speaker 1well with
7:55Speaker 1all types of people, and that's something that we have to do on a day to day basis.
7:59Speaker 1I mean, I always say the ER is a great equalizer. You could be
8:04Speaker 1a homeless patient that's that's abusing drugs right next to the CEO
8:09Speaker 1Yeah. With a Fortune 500 company Right. Jason
8:12Speaker 1Gertes. And
8:14Speaker 1you
8:15Speaker 1have a few minutes to extract information
8:18Speaker 1from both patients. And
8:20Speaker 1it's important to be able to kind of establish that rapport with the patient in a very short time so I can get the information I need to best treat
8:29Speaker 3that patient. So, yeah. What about temperament?
8:32Speaker 3I mean, that's interesting. What's the personality traits? Like, my guess is
8:36Speaker 3that everybody who is super calm and laid back and not a is the 1 who does well in the Yeah. I I think you're right. And that's it. You definitely have to roll with punches,
8:46Speaker 1and
8:47Speaker 1you can't really get too stressed out in in these situations because Right. Well, the patient sense it too when you're like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. No. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, the nursing staff senses it. I mean, even even amongst emergency physicians, there's a little bit of varying temperament, but in general, yeah, we are more laid back. We can deal with with the stress and we
9:07Speaker 3handle it a lot better than some of the other. Types of doctors out there. Does every doctor have to start or at least do their internship or I know that I forget the word, but you know it, in an ER?
9:19Speaker 3Is that like the always the starting point? No, not necessary. Do you have to do any type of training like mandatory in an ER? So
9:28Speaker 1when you're in medical school,
9:30Speaker 1take the 1st couple years, it's basically book time. Okay. You're just, you're just learning and you take boards,
9:37Speaker 1which is, you know, USMLEs,
9:40Speaker 1which is a standardized test all across the board, and then you start the last 2 years rotations where you're actually working clinically. So you're no longer in that kind of school setting, you're out there. And some
9:51Speaker 1of those rotations
9:53Speaker 1may include emergency medicine. When I was in medical school, it wasn't a mandatory
10:01Speaker 1rotation, but, you know,
10:03Speaker 1learn a lot about yourself as you do those rotations. You you kind of ask yourself, can I do this
10:10Speaker 1for the rest of my career? Can I can I work in this type of aesthetic? Is this something that's gonna make me happy? And and I think that helps differentiate
10:19Speaker 3pathways for students. It kind of strikes me as, like, because he's right, all these questions, that is absolutely true. It seems like that's a rough job for 20 years and there's a way easier way to do it, right?
10:29Speaker 3Narc Go to is just be a family- It is rough. Family doctor. Yeah. It's it's satisfying It's satisfying. For for
10:37Speaker 1the type of docs
10:39Speaker 1that we are. Life? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes. It's good know. It doesn't always go, you know, like that. You know? Sure. You deal with
10:46Speaker 1things that don't work out the way you intend, and you always you're playing with fire all the time. Somebody's gonna get burst, you know, occasionally, and that's just
10:56Speaker 1unfortunate
10:57Speaker 2part of of doing the job. But, yeah, it is very fulfilling when it goes well. But do you I don't know if he answers if he did, I'm sorry, but I wanna ask it again because I'm curious. So is 20 years a general or is that a long time? Would imagine most people fizzle out within what, maybe 10 most? Or do some of the practice? I I think Yeah. I think I think emergency physicians, they
11:19Speaker 1they do branch out, but 20 years, yeah, it's a long time. I'm not sure, like, what the the true average is, how many Yeah. How many people last that long, but
11:29Speaker 1people try
11:30Speaker 1to do it for 20 plus years. Yeah. I mean, there's people out there that are doing it for 30 years, 35 years before they before they yeah. 20 years of anything. You gotta love it. Yeah. You gotta love it. I mean, I do love it. I I really do.
11:43Speaker 1It's but it's
11:44Speaker 1difficult to do that and do
11:47Speaker 1it forever, and it's difficult to do it while you're giving the appropriate focus to family.
11:54Speaker 1Sure. You know? So it's
11:56Speaker 1I think it's okay to sort of branch out and kind of
12:00Speaker 1do different things. Yeah. But, yeah, I do love it. And a lot of the ER docs I know, they do love it. Trying something different, evolving. I mean, we're supposed to. Evolving. Exactly. Right? I
12:10Speaker 2do you feel you said that
12:13Speaker 2medicine
12:14Speaker 2has changed in those 20 years. Do you what like, kind of break that down a little bit. That's kind of intriguing. What did you mean? Yeah.
12:22Speaker 1There's a lot of there's been a lot of changes even from the time that I started. I mean, I think 1 of the things when you're
12:28Speaker 1training, you're working in an academic center often, and,
12:32Speaker 1you know, the focus is really taking care of patients.
12:35Speaker 1The economics of medicine is less of a factor. When
12:40Speaker 1you graduate and you're finished training, you're working out in a private hospital,
12:45Speaker 1there are different
12:47Speaker 1motivating factors and there are different forces that
12:51Speaker 1can sometimes influence
12:53Speaker 1from
12:55Speaker 1more powerful positions. So,
12:58Speaker 1yeah,
12:59Speaker 1I think that changes
13:01Speaker 1things a little bit. And I think that
13:03Speaker 1the economics of medicine has definitely changed
13:08Speaker 1in the last 20 years.
13:11Speaker 3I Let's get back to you, Todd. We want you to make your introduction of yourself. Sure.
13:16Speaker 4Before we get lost and forget about it. That's all good, man. That's all good. So I've been in this business for 15 years. I'm the general manager here. I basically consider myself the utility man. I do everything. You know, I can assist her in the surgery,
13:29Speaker 4the equipment breaks, I can fix the equipment. I do the consultations,
13:32Speaker 4help with marketing, you name it. So do it all. And you did,
13:38Speaker 4when I went in there, you were the artistic 1, right? Correct. Yep. It helped us. If I remember. Yep. Yep. We do it together, but I get it started. Yes. Keep it nice and natural looking. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, your hair is looking great. So everybody understands this, it's only 4 months. Yeah. So you're still in the infancy of it. It's just gonna keep getting better and better and better. Yeah. Well, thank you. That's exciting. Yeah. No. It looks great. And Blake, when you just you guys, you know, you I went in there and
14:05Speaker 3you took a Sharpie to my head, right? Yep. And said, okay, here's how we're gonna make your hairline. And you said, you don't want
14:13Speaker 3each peak to be the same exact
14:16Speaker 3distance away, right? Because you're walking around- You can draw attention to it. Yep. And I thought it was really interesting, I guess, was to make sure that we put some hair on the sides because that's what frames
14:28Speaker 3a person's face. And if you have no hair there,
14:31Speaker 3you got no frame and now we just kind of look strange with some hair on the top. A little hair hat. But also you
14:37Speaker 3guys, when you drew it, it was a jagged line. Right? That went up and down. Yep.
14:42Speaker 4And uneven on purpose. Right. And that's how it grows naturally. Right? So when you push it back, it's not a straight line. Right? You can't tell you had a hair transplant. Whereas
14:51Speaker 3the opposite- That's the goal. Right? In other countries, they may not do that or cannot. No. Yeah. You can just see in their advertising, they're not doing it. Yeah. Especially in Turkey. Yeah. You know, I'm
15:01Speaker 4not saying they don't do good work. They do. The hair grows, but it's not as natural looking. Yeah. Yeah. And
15:08Speaker 3also,
15:09Speaker 3so that okay. Explain to me this too. When you guys created
15:13Speaker 3the actual hairline,
15:15Speaker 4you told me that there were specific hairs that you implanted there. That's correct. Tell me about that. Remind me. Along the very front of the hairline, we actually use single hairs. Okay? For most of you, if you don't understand, a hair graft has 1 to 4 hairs in it. And if you stick 1 in the front that has 4 in it, you can see it a mile away, especially for guys like you and I with very soft hairs. That means 1 follicle,
15:37Speaker 14 hairs grow out of it. Right? That's the average thing. So is that average? I'm sorry. What's the average
15:43Speaker 4about 2.5
15:44Speaker 4per graft. That's right. So you and I have a lot of ones and twos. I can just tell by looking at you have fine hair. Right? He has a lot of threes and fours wise. Hair stood aren't thick. Lucky bastard. Right? Okay.
15:55Speaker 4Yep. So anyway, we
15:57Speaker 4they have a petri dish that had and then the quadrants, right, has ones, twos, threes, and fours. That way, know where to place them, but we always put little singles in the very front to keep it soft and natural looking. And in fact, too, we try to pull those hairs from the side because they're even softer than the hairs from the back. Nope. There's a lot of artistry in all these. Put
16:15Speaker 3Yeah. The hair so it is A 100%. The right way as opposed to pointing like this way? Yeah. So when when you're making incisions to kind of create
16:24Speaker 1the outline Yeah. For where these grafts are gonna go, It's the angle is very important. The sort of the balance is very important.
16:32Speaker 1You know, and so
16:35Speaker 1you you you make everything
16:38Speaker 1to give you that natural look. That's kind of
16:41Speaker 1That takes time and it takes, you know, you sort of have to be spatially oriented and kind of look at a big canvas and
16:48Speaker 1plot things out and
16:51Speaker 1spread it evenly and give it
16:53Speaker 3balance. And that's important. You know, just like everything else in the medical and surgeries, like usually, well, in this whole world, everything is automated.
17:01Speaker 3Is there an automated hair transplant
17:04Speaker 3program? Is there
17:06Speaker 3a way to do that without humans? And I don't even know if it's possible. Sure, sounds like it's probably not a good idea. So
17:13Speaker 1there are machines that Yes, are more
17:16Speaker 1we
17:17Speaker 4don't have it, but my understanding is a lot of the times the physician has to go back in and do a lot of the extraction and do a lot of the site making
17:25Speaker 4on top of the machine doing it to keep it looking natural. The human hand has to be involved. No. Seriously, that's what we found. I think I think also,
17:32Speaker 1you know, there's definitely an art to it, but
17:35Speaker 1the feel of when you're doing the procedure, like, the machine can't always sense, like, how deep things have to go when the certain give in the needle occurs.
17:46Speaker 1And, you know, if you
17:48Speaker 1if you go too
17:49Speaker 1deep, you can start injuring
17:51Speaker 1some of the blood vessels underneath and
17:54Speaker 1that will affect the
17:55Speaker 3quality of the transplant. So, these sort of things you pick up when you do the procedure and you kind of get that feel for And I could hear it all. Mean, like, as your I couldn't feel it, I think, because you guys numbed me up appropriately, but I could You can hear in your own ears
18:11Speaker 3the puncture going cutting through the skin. It's like a little crunch. Yeah, it's like little crunch.
18:17Speaker 3You have to have no way to stop. You can't just chisel it and go bang and make 1, right? The
18:22Speaker 3machine tends to do, do, do. Yeah, right, right. So I guess give us, so we are here,
18:29Speaker 3everybody, I've got my hair transplant and this podcast is about talking about peptides and
18:35Speaker 3getting, I don't know, getting healthy, everybody getting healthy, happy, living your life better, doing anything that makes us If you look better, you feel better, you play better.
18:45Speaker 3We're talking a little bit about this and this is what you guys do. Give us a quick Or tell us how it goes. If I'm a new patient, from start to finish, kind of how a hair transplant
18:54Speaker 3goes. We just talked about a little bit of it, but I don't know. Share the mic somewhere. It's a process. I mean, know, the
19:02Speaker 1whole procedure itself will take somewhere between 6 to 8 hours, depending on how many grafts we're working on. So, if you take 3,000
19:11Speaker 1grafts and you're trying to transplant them from
19:14Speaker 1the area in the back of the head, which is the donor zone,
19:18Speaker 1the safe zone where some of the hormones,
19:21Speaker 1the DHT that can negatively affect the hair on the
19:26Speaker 1kind of the mid scalp, the frontal scalp,
19:29Speaker 1the crown,
19:30Speaker 1it doesn't have as much of an effect on the hairs in the back. Really? So, that's why we take hairs from that area, but you essentially have to remove 3000 hairs, Geez. Make 3,000
19:41Speaker 1sites
19:42Speaker 1and then Replace them. Place 3000.
19:44Speaker 3And when you say remove, it's not plucking hairs. It's literally cutting out the entire circular It's
19:50Speaker 3follicle all embryo. Sounds very tedious.
19:52Speaker 4Oh. Yeah. And you put it in 4 4 different compartments in the petri dish? Yeah, that way they can understand we got ones, twos, threes, and fours. Yeah, you wanna make sure you don't put any of those heavy ones up in the front because you can see them a mile away. Wow, yeah. A
20:05Speaker 1lot of it has to do with kind of the optical illusion. The artist. Right? Yeah, the artistry of it, you take
20:11Speaker 1some of the grafts, the the grafts that have 3 or 4 hairs, you basically get more coverage if you put those in the thinner areas in the back. And it's not as, you know, aesthetically important,
20:24Speaker 1but what you want is some density back there. And that's kind of what helps because you have a very limited, you have a limited number of grafts that you can work with. And that number is what? I know we did something like 3,000 or something like that. Is that right? So, I mean, in 10, maybe. Yeah. It depends on on everybody's a little different, but it's somewhere between 6
20:43Speaker 1to 10 thou
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21:44Speaker 1Possible
21:45Speaker 3grafts in the donor zone. Right. And that's why you can you can't obviously take all of them out because then you'll be bald in the back. And those will never be, those are not growing back. So they're taking the follicle out. You're taking the whole follicle out. So- There is no recovery time. I was actually, I had it in my brain like, alright, I gotta wait, you know, 6 months and then those will replenish themselves back here. Yeah, they don't grow back, but
22:07Speaker 1certain treatments may help
22:09Speaker 1some of the follicles that don't have healthy hairs or
22:14Speaker 1in a bad sort of part of the
22:17Speaker 1hair growth process,
22:20Speaker 1kind of convert them back into the healthier part of the process or, you know, and those hairs that are miniaturized
22:28Speaker 1may improve. So,
22:30Speaker 1you may get improvement in your donor,
22:33Speaker 3but you not get new follicles. They don't regenerate. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. But so some people can be like halfway bald. They do it bad.
22:42Speaker 1Yeah. It looks like- They can over harvest. Yeah. You
22:45Speaker 4can see that. They're gonna look scalped.
22:47Speaker 4When we're doing- That's
22:49Speaker 4when we do the FU-3C, we spread it over such a large area. Because if you do too many too close together, you'll be able to see through your hair, it looks patchy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you've done it for 15 years, you said? Yes, sir. Yep. In the 15 years, has the process changed?
23:04Speaker 4Oh, it's pretty much been this way for It's similar. Some of the tools have changed. The artistry has definitely changed depending on where you are.
23:11Speaker 4I'm pretty anal about that stuff. It's, you know, my name's on it, so I wanna make sure that it looks very natural. Like, we take into consideration the age appropriate hairlines, etcetera. Yeah. Guys want these straight hairlines across the front. We're not gonna do that. Yeah. African American, yes, we'll do that, or maybe Hispanic because they like to line it up nice and straight.
23:30Speaker 4But for a white boy like yourself, I'm not gonna do that. Yeah. Like, I'll argue in circles with these guys. They're like, oh, they're rounded off. No. Rounded hairlines are for females. That's right. Yeah. There's male hairlines and female hairlines. Now they draw this mic. Don't go what's good for you. We're not doing that. Sorry. Has there been a difference in like, so in the last 15 years, has there been a difference in
23:48Speaker 2what you've seen come in like more men losing their hair maybe because diet or lack of nutrition or overweight?
23:55Speaker 4The plethora of stuff that we deal with. I would say it's the same, to be honest. I haven't really noticed much difference.
24:03Speaker 4Are getting a lot more patients coming in now that are concerned about eyebrows and we do facial hair as well,
24:08Speaker 4So,
24:09Speaker 1yeah. Wow.
24:11Speaker 1See that. So I I think
24:14Speaker 1people are attaching
24:17Speaker 1some of the emotions,
24:18Speaker 1that feeling feeling good about yourself.
24:22Speaker 1They're they're more inclined to do that probably now than they have been in the past. And I think especially, like, men. I mean, you know, women kind
24:30Speaker 1of have been Yeah. As you choose more open to it. Right. But but men are becoming more open to it because not only, I mean, you look better, you feel better. And that's an important part of it. Having improved
24:41Speaker 1morale helps you in a lot of components of your life. That confidence will this Quite a bit in regards to The stigma. Botox. Yeah. Materneeding Botox,
24:50Speaker 2facials,
24:51Speaker 2most People do like Yeah. The stigma of all of these things. It wasn't okay. It wasn't manly before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay, you can age well. Yeah, you can age well. Exactly. You can age well, look good. You're losing your hair. I mean, I'm just gonna wear a hat.
25:06Speaker 1Well,
25:07Speaker 3rather have the hair transplant than anything with a dentist, but I would like to go under general anesthesia for my next dental- Especially the root canal.
25:15Speaker 3Just, when I was a little kid, they forgot to, they were giving me a filling and they, so that jagged needle that they put in the well, they usually put the topical anesthetic on you 1st.
25:24Speaker 3They neglected
25:26Speaker 3that step,
25:27Speaker 3and I could just and I was a little kid, and I didn't wanna say anything. I knew it was coming. I was like, yep. But, oh, well, oh my god. I can still just feel it in my bones. Yeah. That hurt really bad. So I'm always Oh, there's different yeah. There are different ways to do local anesthesia. I mean, sometimes they're doing nerve blocks. So you basically just do 1 injection,
25:44Speaker 1try to anesthesize the whole nerve, which may take out a part of the jaw or even a part of the scalp. Like, we can do nerve blocks as well to kind of make it a little bit easier. And I yeah. And, like, to be fair, I remember so I'm a big guy. I metabolize things very fast. Also,
26:02Speaker 3as we all know, it was sober because I had a drug problem. So I've
26:07Speaker 3my body is used to narcotics and
26:10Speaker 3make meds, I swear I get I flush them quick and I build tolerance
26:14Speaker 3real fast. I had my, was playing basketball several years ago and had my, I got an elbow to my lip and it was cutting like in 0.5, like down to down to the skin, right? And I went to the ER and they gave me a little injection,
26:28Speaker 3said, I'll be back in 15 minutes, tell me it'll be numb, we'll do stitches. Like, the doc had to come back 4 times. Yeah. I'm like, nope, still feel it. Another 1, still feel it. And then at the end, I'm like, dude, it's just not gonna just do the stitches. They're definitely Feel everything. It's okay.
26:41Speaker 4Varying degrees Did not work. Metabolizing it. Yeah. He knows that. Patients patients are different. So Yeah. I think when you work out and you're in shape, it makes a difference too. He knows I burned through it quick too. Towards the end, I'm like, can feel that a little bit. I mean, it's not brutal.
26:56Speaker 3It's always at the end of the day, same thing like- It is. It
27:00Speaker 3more. It doesn't hurt more. You just put color in at the end of the day. At the very end of the day. That's it, when you're just beat up and fragile, and that's why it hurts so much. And
27:12Speaker 3then,
27:13Speaker 3so I don't know, tell us about what are guys doing about recovery? Like about
27:17Speaker 3do we have a transplant?
27:18Speaker 3And then how
27:20Speaker 3do you help or advise?
27:22Speaker 3I know me personally and not from necessarily
27:25Speaker 3your
27:26Speaker 3medical advice, but I take peptides because I like them and I take them for all healing me everywhere else. And so I did, hell, I use my GHKCU
27:36Speaker 3shampoo
27:37Speaker 3after every day and still do.
27:39Speaker 3And I did, you know, BPC and TB, not directly like injecting into my head, but,
27:45Speaker 3and I have healed fast and apparently you're supposed to lose your hair too.
27:49Speaker 3And so I don't know if it's the peptides
27:52Speaker 3that has made it grow back so well and not ever, like Is that common? Fallen out, but is that common? Or what you guys do for follow-up boosters? So, yeah, everybody's different. It's it's difficult
28:01Speaker 1to tell, you know, because there there isn't great
28:05Speaker 1data, however, but,
28:07Speaker 1you know, there's definitely some potential
28:10Speaker 1likely in some of the peptides.
28:12Speaker 1We know that, you know, copper tends
28:14Speaker 1to help with collagen production,
28:18Speaker 1help certain situations
28:20Speaker 1with some of that regeneration
28:23Speaker 1stabilizing
28:24Speaker 1the
28:27Speaker 1collagen itself, the scalp,
28:29Speaker 1BPC-one
28:31Speaker 1-one 157, TB-five 100 probably, you know, with the angiogenesis helping with some of the blood flow. You know, those
28:40Speaker 1are good things when you're talking about recovery.
28:43Speaker 3So I know you're not allowed to tell based on You
28:47Speaker 3did not tell me to take these things, right?
28:49Speaker 3Asking you to answer
28:52Speaker 3on air, but still.
28:54Speaker 3So what do you guys do for follow-up treatments
28:57Speaker 3to help people with the full restoration process? So, I think we're
29:01Speaker 1a full hair restoration clinic. Our bread and butter is hair transplant, but there are
29:07Speaker 1many different ways
29:09Speaker 1to kind of help with hair restoration.
29:12Speaker 1Some of the treatments that we offer with
29:16Speaker 1regards to
29:17Speaker 1PRP, you can do
29:19Speaker 1that kind of
29:21Speaker 1helps with growth factors in the scalp and may help those follicles sort of
29:26Speaker 1wake up a little bit and kind of go into that healthy growth phase of hair
29:33Speaker 1cycle.
29:34Speaker 1Some of the newer, like regenerative techniques
29:37Speaker 1we offer, Laser
29:40Speaker 1light
29:41Speaker 1can help So as
29:43Speaker 1we
29:44Speaker 3do more than just hair transplant. So I think there are options for people. What about medication? So I actually, because so easily, like I probably lost some of my hair because I was doing testosterone.
29:55Speaker 1Yeah, probably did. Testosterone
29:57Speaker 3converts into estrogen,
29:59Speaker 3yes, rapidly and readily, also DHT.
30:03Speaker 1DHT
30:05Speaker 3closes up your pores. So
30:07Speaker 3I
30:08Speaker 3took
30:11Speaker 3dutasteride
30:12Speaker 3and
30:13Speaker 3what was the other 1? Monoxylin,
30:15Speaker 1that's the same 1 there.
30:17Speaker 3Why is that? Why would I take that?
30:20Speaker 4Why did I take it? You're taking it to block the conversion of DHT basically from testosterone to DHT. DHT miniaturizes
30:27Speaker 4the hair follicles and then eventually won't come back. So this helps block the miniaturization. That's right. And what does minoxidil do? Minoxidil will help with vasodilation
30:35Speaker 1and some extra blood flow.
30:37Speaker 1That also is helpful for the follicles.
30:40Speaker 1It takes some time for those medicines to really fully work, but a lot of times it's important to concomitantly do the medication
30:50Speaker 1after transplant. Gives you a better chance to have a
30:54Speaker 3successful transplant. Good. Is Benoxidil like a weak form of Viagra or something? Yeah,
31:00Speaker 1no. Not necessarily.
31:03Speaker 1Why? Are you getting a good effect? No.
31:06Speaker 3Like Viagra is the other. It's
31:08Speaker 3a vasodilator.
31:10Speaker 1It just helps blood flow. Yep. Your body wants to push blood somewhere, it opens it up to push blood. Yeah. Through nitric oxide, it'll help with blood flow vasodilator. Yeah. It it works a bit differently. I mean, as far as,
31:25Speaker 1I guess,
31:26Speaker 1they're both vasodilators in certain places, but yeah, they work That's
31:30Speaker 1your connection.
31:31Speaker 1Mechanisms are different.
31:33Speaker 2We talking about cost?
31:35Speaker 4What's the cost? Are we talking Sure. About So, we average about $3 per graft basically. So, normally FUE is $3.50 a graft and then FUT, which is the strip method, the older method is $3 per graft. It's great. It's real easy pricing
31:50Speaker 4based on graft numbers.
31:51Speaker 4Everything's included, all the medications included, you don't to go pick it up at the pharmacy.
31:55Speaker 4There's no tax. People don't realize that a lot of times on medical procedures. So if I say it's $9, it's $9 out the door. There's no hidden costs. We don't charge you for some places charge you for like the gowns, they charge you for your aftercare meds, none of that stuff. So real simple pricing. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of variability in pricing out I think 1 of the things that's important for us is
32:15Speaker 1we want to
32:19Speaker 1give people a fair price. And I think
32:22Speaker 1all too often, yes, is labor intensive, but it's, our model is to kind of make it more accessible.
32:29Speaker 4But there are lots out there charging $30. Well, was gonna say the kind of work we do, we should be getting $5 a graph. The issue is it's very competitive. Like, I think we do some of the best work around, honestly. This guy's got it locked in. And what did your neighbor remember?
32:45Speaker 2Remember your neighbor? Well, I had no idea. Had never even looked into it and my neighbor had had it and I was like, I'm starting to leave my hair on top.
32:54Speaker 2I literally had no clue. I'd never looked into it, had no desire to do that. And then he's outside wired in his lawn in the backyard. I'm in the backyard. I'm like, Hey, man. I said, So you had the hair transplant. I'm all, what does that cost? Like, you know, and he's like,
33:08Speaker 2what did he say? He said, oh, 25.
33:10Speaker 2And I'm like, oh, that's not bad. $2,500? That's not and he goes, no, $25.
33:14Speaker 1He's like, we took out a 2nd on my home. I was like, oh,
33:18Speaker 2did he wear a hat? Was he in Newport Beach? Most likely. I don't know where he got it done, but that's where we lived. But I had no clue if that was the cost of it, but his looked like crap. I hope he hasn't listened. I haven't spent that kind money. Well,
33:33Speaker 2because he just, it didn't look like he really did anything.
33:36Speaker 3I'm like- I did the kind of cost analysis and like it sure made
33:41Speaker 3a lot more sense to go to you guys because even just straight price wise, like all of the money that I would spend and time off of work and hassle in travel,
33:52Speaker 3right,
33:53Speaker 3made up the difference of me just having to drive to San Diego. I did get a hotel room there
33:58Speaker 3because I didn't want to deal with drive
34:01Speaker 3home. Right. Brain
34:04Speaker 3injured a little bit. Probably
34:06Speaker 1wise to be like that, but we don't let you drive after the procedure. Well, right. Right. Yeah. So you're telling us about okay. Maybe that's why. And they're curious because I'm like, you know, me, I've never looked into it. You know? I'm
34:18Speaker 2assuming it's financing.
34:19Speaker 4There is financing available. Yes. And you guys finance? We don't finance at the house. We have several companies for 1 with financing.
34:25Speaker 1Yeah.
34:28Speaker 1I mean, we try to make it easier
34:30Speaker 1for patients to do it. I mean, I think also that we talked about the difference between,
34:33Speaker 1you know, going to Turkey, price, maybe part of it, but it's a different experience here. You know, I contact every single 1 of my patients.
34:42Speaker 1Have to check on. I mean, we take pride in what we're doing there. So I think,
34:47Speaker 1and
34:49Speaker 1our patients notice that.
34:52Speaker 1It's
34:52Speaker 1not necessarily, it doesn't work like that when you use somebody on a continent and far away and has your money and
34:59Speaker 1has already given you a transplant and it's pretty much done with you. Well,
35:04Speaker 2you were saying that you wanted to get into different type of, not medicine, but
35:09Speaker 2bedside manner, I guess, is the way to say that. So is that what you're trying to do? Because you're talking about
35:15Speaker 2ER,
35:16Speaker 2woah, down to very, probably slow pace and tedious,
35:20Speaker 2very different, like hard left onto
35:22Speaker 1slow. Yeah, I mean, the transplant is a
35:25Speaker 1part of, like, what I really wanna do. I mean, this is a transition, yeah, from the ER to doing transplant, I think
35:33Speaker 1kind of my passion is what I'm looking at is sort of shifting
35:37Speaker 1where
35:37Speaker 1I'm treating patients,
35:39Speaker 1you know,
35:40Speaker 1how I'm treating patients. For
35:42Speaker 120 years, I see patients at the kind of the tail end of their disease process and that emergency situation where something bad really happened to them, and you
35:52Speaker 1try to kind of pull them out of that situation. I think it's important to,
35:57Speaker 1all too often, as physicians, we probably
36:00Speaker 1don't get a chance to focus on
36:02Speaker 1keeping people well and helping them
36:06Speaker 1sort of stay well and healthy
36:09Speaker 1and, you know, age well. Yeah. And this is hair is 1 component of it, but there's there's other things I like to be to do and I'm already kind of working on. Tell us about those things. So what's next? What are you doing now? What else is what other projects do you guys have? So, yeah, we're
36:25Speaker 11 of things I'm doing now, I'm working with another doctor, a buddy of mine, also an ER doc, and we're gonna be
36:32Speaker 1We've actually pretty much launched our telehealth site where we're gonna
36:38Speaker 1be physicians,
36:39Speaker 1MDs that are manning it,
36:42Speaker 1establishing
36:43Speaker 1a patient physician relationship,
36:47Speaker 1helping people with different
36:50Speaker 1types of longevity wellness
36:52Speaker 1treatments.
36:53Speaker 1And
36:55Speaker 1I think that's
36:57Speaker 1important. You know, we do that as physicians. I think a lot of times
37:02Speaker 1corporate medicine has sort of dissolved some of that patient physician relationship that really makes medicine
37:10Speaker 1special. So, you know, it's important for us to try to focus on that. And so we wanna do something different in the telehealth world. Like what? What are some of those?
37:21Speaker 3Like being available? Being Making
37:25Speaker 1personalized
37:26Speaker 1Listening treatment
37:28Speaker 2to patients,
37:29Speaker 2you know,
37:31Speaker 1of convey what's important to them, what's gonna make them better, where they see themselves
37:38Speaker 1progressing to and kind of working
37:41Speaker 1with that as an outline to
37:43Speaker 1make a personalized plan for them, whether it's some of
37:47Speaker 1weight loss treatments,
37:50Speaker 1optimizing hormones,
37:51Speaker 1even hair restoration is gonna be part of this, some of the more wellness longevity
37:56Speaker 1kind of treatment plans. We're getting started, we're gonna be definitely incorporating
38:02Speaker 1lab biomarkers,
38:04Speaker 1monitoring
38:04Speaker 1these, making adjustments to plans. And, you know, a lot of times, we don't see that in a lot of these bigger telehealth websites. You know, it's about Turn to burn. Yeah. Exactly. Get get you on a subscription
38:17Speaker 3and- Well, They just want it's like Jimmy, his friend,
38:20Speaker 3usually, I guess maybe a woman, but Joan,
38:23Speaker 3her friend told her, Hey, this is what I do. They're like, All right, I just want to get that. And I just want to I'll just find the easiest way to get that. Right. Even though that totally may not be right for her whatsoever
38:34Speaker 3and people are unique and just because a friend got good results doing 1 thing,
38:39Speaker 3right, and just told her all about the good highlights and not about anything bad. Right. She just goes, Oh, I just want this for cheap.
38:45Speaker 3Instead of actually speaking to somebody.
38:47Speaker 3So cool.
38:49Speaker 2So you get back to the basics. And
38:52Speaker 2it wouldn't be me if I didn't ask.
38:53Speaker 2People on the show know me.
38:55Speaker 2Western medicine,
38:58Speaker 2doctors have lost some steps and rightfully so, they prescribed stuff and they didn't know what was in it. So I would imagine that's affected
39:05Speaker 2how you're treated. I don't know if it would bleed on to maybe ER doctors as much as maybe certain doctors,
39:12Speaker 2but rightfully so. Mean, if you have doctors who we are supposed to trust,
39:17Speaker 2right? And they deserve that trust because you guys have worked for it. But if you're prescribing something to somebody you don't know what's in it, that's a problem.
39:24Speaker 2And they shouldn't be doing that. And so lack of trust for doctors.
39:29Speaker 2And that's 1 of my
39:31Speaker 2problems with doctors is because of that. So if you just get back to, I think kind of the basics and doing what you just said, which is great,
39:38Speaker 2what's your objective? What's your sleep like? What
39:41Speaker 2do you do for work? And like, ask questions
39:44Speaker 2that affect them, affect their lifestyle, their cortisol, and all those things.
39:49Speaker 2That's how doctors should get back to, I think. And if you do that, I mean, that's Sure. I mean, medicine is not a 1 size fits all plan. And
39:57Speaker 1I think that's a lot of the time in some of these clinics that there's protocols, you fall into this category and you're going to get this treatment. And that's not always the right move. I agree with you. I mean,
40:10Speaker 1we've strayed a little bit certain ways. You know, I think that we've also put in a lot of time and a lot of years and and we've we've studied a lot and it's a
40:23Speaker 15 minute chat GPT conversation doesn't always cover, you know, what we know. So, you know, there is
40:30Speaker 1some value,
40:32Speaker 1you know, as kind of being,
40:34Speaker 1I won't say authority figure, you know, we have a
40:38Speaker 1bigger knowledge base to a certain degree. You know, you're smart.
40:44Speaker 1Read
40:45Speaker 1a lot. Yeah, we were nerdy. Yeah, back in the day. Yeah. We might still be nerdy.
40:49Speaker 1Yeah.
40:50Speaker 1I think in general, like, you know, there should be some value. Have you noticed patients
40:57Speaker 3treating you differently
40:58Speaker 3over the years?
41:00Speaker 3And starting with COVID, I think was the 1st, well, maybe not 1st, but like, right, it really opened a lot of people's eyes, made a lot of people skeptical
41:07Speaker 3of Western medicine and of the authority figures that we all had put our faith in.
41:14Speaker 3And I guess it'd be for everybody. But yeah, have you noticed a change in how people have
41:19Speaker 3dealt with Yeah, I think,
41:22Speaker 1so 1st of all, COVID,
41:24Speaker 1that time was a very unique time. Right? So you're talking about a global pandemic Mhmm. With
41:31Speaker 1all sorts of unknowns. And
41:33Speaker 1guys like me were
41:35Speaker 1frontline docs. Like, I was also
41:39Speaker 1it was all unknown, like, how this is gonna turn out, but I showed up. Like, I went there every single
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42:29Speaker 1It
42:31Speaker 1was took care of patients. You
42:33Speaker 1know, we didn't know if we were gonna
42:35Speaker 1especially at the very beginning, we didn't know if were gonna die. Sick. Yeah, because
42:40Speaker 1there were doctors that were dying. So, but, you know, we felt it was important to take care of people and even
42:48Speaker 1not to hate all my
42:50Speaker 1the other docs out there, a lot of specialists, they closed up shop. They stayed at home. But,
42:57Speaker 1know, us as the frontline docs, we were there every
43:00Speaker 1day, every shift.
43:02Speaker 1And then things
43:04Speaker 1started changing and where everybody is like, Oh, you know, you're
43:08Speaker 1doing COVID tests and introducing COVID into us. I- Why? Why would I do that? Right.
43:14Speaker 1You didn't think I'm gonna make what it's yet, right? So if the things were just coming out of left field, it didn't really make much sense. Sure. I think
43:24Speaker 1some of us
43:25Speaker 1probably took a little bit of like a
43:28Speaker 1moral blow, like, when that was occurring. Yeah. Because, you know, honestly, that's now I was thinking about it. I was like, listen, I'm needed right now. Like, I yeah. I'm I'm here. I saw plenty of people die. I mean, like, you saw people dying in the waiting room. Like, it was it was happening. Like,
43:44Speaker 1it was real deal. And then, you know, things kind of dust started settling a little bit. You know? Some of the vaccinations came out and
43:51Speaker 1also some of the treatments changed. There's more information. I mean,
43:55Speaker 1that's just how things work. HGHTS-2020.
43:56Speaker 1Yeah, hindsight is always 20 20. So
43:59Speaker 1yeah, I think that's kind of changed a little bit, but
44:02Speaker 1it's important to gain the trust of patients back.
44:07Speaker 2Know, get But back to I think it's easy to do that because you've already said it. You have earned your right for the respect. You have done things that we don't want to do. I don't want to go to school for 20 years. I know it's 20 years, but you know what I mean? You've earned it. And I you're a
44:22Speaker 2think it'd be very easy, which is just do what you were trying to do is spend some time with the people and learn about them and try to
44:29Speaker 2truly help them and see That's secrets with the pair of
44:32Speaker 2right. That's what people don't want. That's why people are seeking peptides.
44:37Speaker 2The cool thing about COVID was
44:40Speaker 2it shifted
44:41Speaker 2people to 1 go, this is weird, something's off. And then 2,
44:46Speaker 2really start to want to get healthy. And that's amazing because the food we eat is shit, it's poison. There we breathe is shit, it's poison. I could go on and on and off. I mean, the food is fake and you know what I mean? And people finally know that. Now we can start to seek
45:02Speaker 2true health, which why are peptides amazing? Because they're chains of amino acids, you know, I mean, there's other things that you need to do. But that's great. Yeah, I mean, focusing on kind
45:12Speaker 1of going
45:13Speaker 1into the cell and
45:15Speaker 1working on
45:17Speaker 1optimizing
45:18Speaker 1certain characteristics and how your body's already
45:22Speaker 1doing things,
45:24Speaker 1that's not
45:26Speaker 1a problem. Medicine
45:28Speaker 1will always change.
45:30Speaker 1So if we are not looking at
45:33Speaker 1changes and looking at kind of different
45:35Speaker 1ways of treating disease
45:37Speaker 1process or even keeping people healthy, mean, that's all and all. We shouldn't be doing that. That's a problem. So,
45:43Speaker 1know,
45:45Speaker 1and you guys talk about it. This is a gray area a lot of times, unfortunately, but it's going to change.
45:50Speaker 1Just needs more information, just like how it changed with COVID. We
45:55Speaker 3met you a while ago, several months ago, right? And you came in here and you were starting to go, Okay, I'm a doctor, I want to learn more about peptides, right? You said, I hear nothing but good things, but
46:07Speaker 3I want to just talk to you guys about
46:10Speaker 3them.
46:11Speaker 3You did tell us, you go, I guess when we were saying goodbye, you're like, okay, well, I need to go
46:17Speaker 3establish myself as an actual expert before
46:20Speaker 3I can even He get into the said, got lot of research to do, right? And that is the right attitude.
46:27Speaker 3It wasn't about money. Was about
46:33Speaker 1and
46:34Speaker 1doctors and a lot of people in medical industry,
46:37Speaker 1we consider ourselves lifelong learners. Like, I don't want to stop learning. Like, things are going to evolve.
46:44Speaker 1And I'm gonna, you know, I want to be there, like, evolving too. Like, I don't want to be stagnant. Like, sure, I can save you. I can save your ass if I need to, like, in emergency.
46:54Speaker 1But, you know, I want to save
46:57Speaker 1people in other ways and help them kind of
47:01Speaker 1be happy with their day to day life and improve their day to day existence too. The science is there. Science is there.
47:09Speaker 3I'll play devil's advocate real quick though, Jay. You did say that people
47:13Speaker 3were worried that doctors were giving patients
47:17Speaker 3things that they didn't even know was in there. So my 1st ringing bell is OxyContin, right? Like OxyContin.
47:23Speaker 3That's the biggest
47:24Speaker 3that we personally know of several friends who died because of that.
47:29Speaker 3Doctors were just, Oh, medical rep, tell me what I should give them. Okay, I'll give them that. Right?
47:35Speaker 3But
47:36Speaker 3this is kind of the same argument why
47:39Speaker 3peptides as a doctor
47:41Speaker 3should be slow played because there isn't enough research and you don't
47:45Speaker 3want to be giving people something you don't know much about. Right?
47:49Speaker 3Unfortunately, so there's a devil's advocate argument, right? So you don't want me to give people, you don't want me to give people things that I am not 100 sure what
47:58Speaker 3they do and what the long term repercussions are? Well, shit, that means I can't give people
48:03Speaker 3many better because we don't know what the long term
48:05Speaker 1We don't know much about them quite yet. Yeah. I mean, we all kind of know that there's
48:11Speaker 1a lot of research that needs to still be done.
48:15Speaker 1But you can't really ignore,
48:17Speaker 1you know,
48:19Speaker 1some promising, like- Benefits. Benefits. You and you can't, like, close your eyes to them. Like, it
48:26Speaker 1it They're coming. Matter what. Yeah, like, I mean, there's
48:30Speaker 1gonna be more information. There's gonna be more studies. There's gonna be well designed studies that are gonna potentially show the therapeutic
48:38Speaker 1benefit.
48:39Speaker 1And that's just science. I mean, it's gonna take time. Unfortunately, we lag sometimes behind it, and there's gonna be the early adopters. Right? And those those are the guys
48:49Speaker 1are doing things.
48:50Speaker 1But we are always more conservative, like, as
48:54Speaker 1physicians,
48:55Speaker 1as medicine.
48:57Speaker 1And it's going to take time, but, you know, like,
48:59Speaker 1I'm not
49:00Speaker 1close minded. I'm to be willing to change. I'm going to do my research. I'm going to learn.
49:06Speaker 1And I think that's
49:08Speaker 1all you can do in this situation and that's the best way to sort of handle it. Now,
49:12Speaker 3all that, with peptides, right, there's so
49:15Speaker 3it's tough
49:16Speaker 3to forecast long term ramifications, but with peptides and a lot of these short
49:20Speaker 3chain amino acid peptides, right,
49:23Speaker 3wonder, is it possible to
49:26Speaker 3forecast all of just because they're so simple, some of them. Like KPV is lysine, proline, and valine.
49:32Speaker 3My guess is how hard is that really to
49:35Speaker 3see what just looking at it and knowing what we know to know what the potential bad things this could possibly do even long term? Because it's so simple, right? Shouldn't we be able to
49:45Speaker 1forecast that or not? There's a lot of factors, right? You you talk about
49:50Speaker 1a lot of dosing
49:52Speaker 1is, yeah, the
49:54Speaker 1different parts of your body, how things kinda work together.
49:58Speaker 1Like, what happens if you change a balance of something within you know, this so these kind of things, they take time. However Yeah. You know, there's
50:08Speaker 1the the
50:10Speaker 1it's gonna be it's gonna be something that we're gonna kind of
50:14Speaker 1learn about and
50:16Speaker 1Yeah. So Yeah. Okay. Fine. Fine.
50:20Speaker 1People are doing me the way. People are doing me the way.
50:23Speaker 2Literally be blunt. Like, either the doctors, like, get on board or the trains are passing. Because people want to be healthy in peptides. I mean, the chains of amino acids. I'm not saying they don't have any type of risk, but compared to some of the medications that are prescribed to people on a daily basis, they have little to none. Yeah, I think Even the government's kinda coming on board. At this point, right? Didn't RFK
50:44Speaker 4What what happened to that? Yeah. There's
50:47Speaker 1some changes in
50:49Speaker 1in kind of classifications
50:51Speaker 1through
50:52Speaker 1the FDA.
50:53Speaker 1It's gonna be positive. Mean, it's gonna lead to
50:55Speaker 1basically better research probably. It's gonna lead to
50:59Speaker 1some of the early
51:02Speaker 1adopters, physicians kind of having a little bit more leeway.
51:06Speaker 1Greater availability all of them.
51:09Speaker 1But nevertheless, you still have to kind of do it in a conservative fashion. You don't, you know, I don't think you're gonna throw 12 peptides a year back.
51:18Speaker 1Know, get them. But when people like, when you- And it's always about kind of slowly
51:23Speaker 1easing into things. True. You know? Right? And and everybody's
51:26Speaker 1gonna be probably affected differently.
51:28Speaker 3So, you know, they that's gonna there's gonna be a learning curve there for sure. So, Todd, you're buff, leaching. You're ripped up when you see your veins. Like, what do you take?
51:37Speaker 4So What do you do for your physical health, basically? Like, everything. So it's interesting. I am now I'll be 57 years old in September. K. 57.
51:46Speaker 4Yep. Love it. Well, the hair helps. Yep. He did my hairline. Yeah.
51:50Speaker 4I've been doing the same workout for 20 years, so it's consistency.
51:55Speaker 4I know, I should probably change some things, but that's I've been doing the same thing for a very long time. What does the workout look like? Basically
52:01Speaker 4just a, you know, chest workout,
52:04Speaker 4both bi tri workout, shoulders, then legs again. Didn't move my legs for like 20 years since I've had 6 knee surgeries. We played ball, we played ball, but my kids were like, Dude, you have chicken legs. I get that all the time So
52:17Speaker 4we're back in on the legs. Yeah. And that's definitely helpful. Now I'm also taking Retta,
52:23Speaker 4right, Tesamorelin,
52:25Speaker 4BP-one hundred 57, and then I take 1 cc a week of testosterone, which I started at 50. You know, I'm not a doctor. I can't give advice, but I would say for most men, you need to look into it. It's game changing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we talk about this all the time. Yeah. So we everybody knows where our stance is. And for those of you out there who think, oh, you're in shape because you're taking that, it's because it's not 1 cc because that's all they'll give you, right? They're not gonna give you 400
52:51Speaker 4mg a week, like
52:53Speaker 4bodybuilders take. Even then. Yeah, right. Absolutely. I'm just trying to stay lean and in shape. What you said is consistency.
53:00Speaker 4Absolutely.
53:02Speaker 4And I have a 10 a wife who's 10 years younger, so that's motivating, and she works out harder than I do. So, yeah, I think we all do actually. She's all she's into fitness. Dude, she'll work out for an hour and 0.5, and I'm out of there in 45 minutes. Yeah. Right? Yeah. She'll shame me, and I'm like, hey. At least it's working for me. Yeah.
53:16Speaker 1Exactly. Later.
53:18Speaker 4And kids, you have some active kids? Yes. I have stepchildren. Right. Yep. I got a 15 year old, a 13, and a 12. Boys, all boys. So it's been great. Yep.
53:27Speaker 313, 15, 12. Damn. Yeah. So it's in, like, full force. Yeah. Met him when they were very young. Breaking stuff. Yeah. My wife and I have been together almost 9 years now. So, yeah, it's been good. Good for you. Stepfather's good stuff. She is, man. Yep. Yeah. I've me too. Like, I have a 9 year old. I guess I'm not actually a stepfather, but basically I live with him and my girlfriend's a child and we love him and he's a boy.
53:49Speaker 3Yeah. He's a full figured boy who, wants to run around and
53:53Speaker 4causing trouble and but at least he wants to throw balls and- Yep. Wait till they get in sports script. You'll end up coaching like I did. I had no idea what to be a coach, and I've turned out to love it. Yeah. Did coach you've said that you're now coaching his tackle football team? Yeah. It looks like I got nominated to be the head coach of 11 u Pop Warner teams. That'll be new.
54:13Speaker 4Done a lot of that flag football coaching in the past. And then last year, I coached a girls high school flag football team, which was awesome. That's actually the fastest growing sport in the country is girls flag football. I hear about that. I hear people who tell us that they have a daughter and playing flag football and it's silly. It's something. I'm
54:30Speaker 4barely 5 10 and some of these girls are 6 feet tall that are on the team. It's crazy. And they're went to that. Last time I went to Hawaii, we were on the plane with the women's,
54:39Speaker 3they had the women's Hawaiian team. Okay. In flag football, they were just coming back from playing the, like, national championship game, and they had just won
54:49Speaker 3the national championship.
54:50Speaker 3Well, Sydney, it's all other girls their age playing football. And it'll be in the Olympics now too. Really? Which is great. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Wow. Yep. Girls or both? Girls. I don't know about men. I know about women. For sure. Yeah. Awesome. That's interesting. Well, coaching football, so I when I graduated college and and I played college football, my my best friend was the
55:09Speaker 3hit, was the athletic director of the junior high that I went to. Okay. Where I'm from, we do junior high, 7th, 8th, and 9th grade, and only 8 and 9th graders can play football. So he called me up and said, hey, do wanna be able to be a coach? So I was the head coach
55:23Speaker 3of the 8th grade, which is JV, right? The 8th graders, he was the head coach of the varsity, but as the D coordinator of the
55:30Speaker 3varsity team also.
55:32Speaker 3I will say that that was
55:34Speaker 3like 1 of the more, the most like fulfilling
55:37Speaker 3It is. Things I've ever done and
55:40Speaker 3it was fun. I mean, just working with these kids, like telling them,
55:43Speaker 3just, you know, sitting with them before practice and say like, Dude, you'd better do your homework. Like, it's not cool to not do your homework and smoke weed. And then not eligible and
55:53Speaker 3that sucks. And then put a helmet on. So we didn't have enough guys and some of these guys were the 1st time ever. Sure. And
55:59Speaker 3I mean, there were plenty of practices where I just put a helmet on. I'm like, right, you offense, scrimmage, we have like 6 guys on playing middle linebacker.
56:05Speaker 3And let's go and
56:08Speaker 3accidentally thought I almost injured our start quarterback, shoving
56:11Speaker 3him over. But it was a blasted. And I remember
56:16Speaker 3that we were good. Luckily, we had some major talent.
56:18Speaker 3Nice. But I spent a month with them pre pregame before the 1st game, practicing, practicing, practicing. And then 1st we kick off, great. They get the ball. And I got a defense, get out there. Everybody knows their positions. We've been practicing, right? They all run out and I have my D linemen are back where safeties
56:36Speaker 3are, right? My corners are like getting in the middle of the line of scrimmage and
56:41Speaker 3all the parents behind me are like, what's that coachman doing? They're like, get your positions, people. But they figured it out, luckily. And after a couple of weeks, I thought I had 1 of the mothers said, Hey, can
56:53Speaker 3we talk to you after the game? And I was like, here we go.
56:58Speaker 3And
56:59Speaker 3she'd said nothing but positive stuff. Said like, the kids love you. Okay, good. And this is like the best they were worried about football. This is the best experience they've ever had. I
57:07Speaker 3guess I maybe say good things about myself, but it really rewarding and those kids remembered me forever.
57:13Speaker 3Well, no. It's time So, consuming and it was fun, man. Selfless job. Right? It really is because it's a lot of time. Yeah. A lot of time. Especially football. Like, you have to plan every inch of practice. Yes. Right? Yep. Every day. They mean a mentor,
57:27Speaker 1like, to
57:28Speaker 4children. Mean, that's- And you are mentoring. You're giving a lot of life lessons while you're out there too. It's actually really good. It's a great experience.
57:36Speaker 2Love it, guys. Now you know how fast the hour goes.
57:40Speaker 2Oh yeah. Everybody that sits here, it's been an hour? That's how fast it goes. Where
57:46Speaker 2can people find you guys? They've
57:48Speaker 4been listening, they've been intrigued, they wanna reach out, how they get ahold of you? Yeah, so the best way to get ahold of us and come directly to me, right? Don't call the office. I don't wanna go into the salespeople, you come directly to me. It's
58:00Speaker 4feel free to email me. Super simple. Just Todd@MyHairMD.com.
58:04Speaker 4Okay. Right? Easy. We'll put it on there too. That's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll get back to you really quickly. Sweet.
58:10Speaker 4Tell them maybe that they heard about you from this. Yeah. And if you're not in the state, that doesn't matter, right? We can do a
58:17Speaker 3online consultation. Sweet. Which is not a problem, right? And you get to fly, you get a, you get an excuse to go to San Diego. That's right. The only great area? Nothing wrong with that. It was inside. Nice, man. It was inside. It's great. I grew up going to that beach. Good stuff. Well, it's been a pleasure gentlemen.
58:32Speaker 2I'm sure we'll be in touch,
58:34Speaker 2but other than that, anything before we
58:37Speaker 2end this?
58:38Speaker 3Cool. Look forward to seeing what you guys are doing. Like I'm always interested, I guess every new doctor with
58:45Speaker 3their new take on alternative
58:47Speaker 3type medicines or emerging medicines and treatments. So I'm excited that
58:52Speaker 3to see what you can come up with and
58:55Speaker 3yeah, what the future holds. We're gonna be busy.
58:58Speaker 2We're hustling. Good. You're stuck. Other than that, make sure that you join our Peptide of the Week
59:05Speaker 2school platform. It's blowing up. We're about 8,000 people on that now. Will and I are gonna dropping a lot of content that we don't put anywhere else, but we put on there. It's our channel so we can say what we want, do what we want. We got full
59:17Speaker 2liberation, baby. There's a lot of cool new info too that I just put up there. Yeah. Awesome. Nice. And if you didn't watch last, what it dropped yesterday, the the podcast with Paul back to here, that was a that was a great podcast, so make sure you listen to that 1. That was rad. Other than that, we will catch you on the next round. Take care. Good, folks. Appreciate you. Thank you, guys.