Peptide Q&A #9 – Cosmetic Surgery Recovery, Women’s Protocols & TRT Fixes Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-9-cosmetic-surgery-recovery-women-s-protocols-trt-fixes/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: What's up, my friends? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Across the screen there is my buddy and my cohost, William T. Haas. Happy Friday, man. Happy Friday. It is Friday. It is Friday. It's been a busy Friday. What time is it already? Jesus, 12:30. 0:26 Speaker 0: Jeez. Time is flying. We got a lot to do. So today we are recording the Q and A. We got some good questions. We're excited. You guys are answering and asking some good questions. I know Will and I both 0:39 Speaker 0: enjoy this 1. We like going through this. We like talking about it and, 0:44 Speaker 0: seeing how things are progressing and the different types of questions 0:48 Speaker 0: coming through. Some of them are redundant to a degree, but, we're gonna go through them and, give you our best answers. You ready to rock? 0:55 Speaker 0: Ready to go. Let's bring it. All right, man, I'll start us off. So I have a friend with neuropathy in both his feet. 1:03 Speaker 0: Peptide would be a stack to help him? Hate seeing friends in pain. Thank you for the daily inspiration. 1:10 Speaker 0: Neuropathy. 1:11 Speaker 0: What would be a good stack for neuropathy? 1:15 Speaker 0: Well, GHK-500. 1:18 Speaker 0: I mean, I'm gonna go with the 2. I think anybody's gonna say the obvious is gonna be the BPC-157 1:24 Speaker 0: because it's going to help with nerve regeneration, 1:27 Speaker 0: TB-five hundred because it's repairing 1:30 Speaker 0: your nerves. So those are just the 2 of the obvious. Another 1 would be Cmax, 1:36 Speaker 0: which is odd, 1:37 Speaker 0: but it's a nootropic that helps with the nerve recovery. So that's going be a little curve ball. I don't think most people would, would do, but I think those 3 1:46 Speaker 0: would do great. I mean, even the 1st 2 alone, think are going to be if he just does the Wolverine stack. 1:52 Speaker 0: And I would suggest in 1:55 Speaker 0: the feet injecting into the feet. What do you think? You'd 1:58 Speaker 1: suggest as well? Yeah, dude, I would. And, but also, so neuropathy is basically nerves 2:05 Speaker 1: going either hyperactive or 2:08 Speaker 1: dull, 2:10 Speaker 1: know, kind of itching, 2:11 Speaker 1: burning, 2:13 Speaker 1: not 2:14 Speaker 1: feeling. 2:16 Speaker 1: That's my general take on neuropathy. And I think that everything you just said, yeah. Yes, I think that's your best shot. And I think nerves 2:25 Speaker 1: also, 2:26 Speaker 1: there could be a point to like, where 2:28 Speaker 1: is, why is the nerve having neuropathy? Right? Is it a pinched nerve? 2:34 Speaker 1: Let's find the source of that pinch maybe. 2:36 Speaker 1: And 2:38 Speaker 1: try injecting at that site, try injecting at the site of the act over where you actually feel it. You know, for me, for you, 2:44 Speaker 1: your back surgery, right? Like I also had, 2:48 Speaker 1: a couple of slipped discs and, 2:50 Speaker 1: in my back, never hurt my back, but it hurt my butt cheek. And then my foot was numb. 2:58 Speaker 1: And so, but like in that case, like that is 3:02 Speaker 1: neuropathy. 3:03 Speaker 1: I guess that's a general- 3:05 Speaker 1: that counts. 3:07 Speaker 1: And 3:09 Speaker 1: in that case, trying to inject at the site of the cause, but also some people just have, 3:15 Speaker 1: yes, overactive, underactive nerves, then cool. Put it in the site. No problem at all with what you were just saying as injecting in the site. 3:23 Speaker 0: And I think that would be the better bet rather than sub Q in your stomach. Yeah. I, when I was right before I had the surgery, when it was really, really, really, really bad, it was just, man, I had some days where I just was dying and I felt like somebody was squeezing 3:38 Speaker 0: and my shin like area. 3:41 Speaker 0: And I, in the morning, I was injecting BPC TB right into that, man. And I, it helped. It didn't like stop the pain, but it helps, man. So I think that your friend will get some release from that, brother. 3:52 Speaker 0: Good luck. You want the next 1? All right. I got you. 3:57 Speaker 1: Love your recent podcast talking about the Wolverine stack for recovery after injury slash surgery. 4:03 Speaker 1: If surgery is a cosmetic procedure on the neck face, where would the best place to inject be? Also, if you have any planned surgery coming up, would you start running the Wolverine stack at a normal dose for several weeks prior to the surgery for saturation, 4:18 Speaker 1: then increase to the super high dose 4:21 Speaker 1: immediately afterward, 4:22 Speaker 1: or just start with that really high dose after the procedure. 4:26 Speaker 1: I'll let you take this on since you basically just did this. Yeah. 4:30 Speaker 0: That's a good, if the surgery is cosmetic procedure on the face and neck, I'm not injecting in my face. I personally won't do that. That's a good question though. I mean, I love it. I would probably go sub Q. 4:45 Speaker 0: TB is going to do better because it's going to flow better through your body. 4:50 Speaker 0: Yeah, personally, I wouldn't suggest you can try that, but I probably wouldn't suggest it. In regards to the 2nd part of the question, I 5:00 Speaker 0: think to be direct with you, it's going to be contingent upon your pocketbook. 5:04 Speaker 0: And the reason I'm saying that is I think that you will do really well with pretty high doses up to the surgery 5:10 Speaker 0: and then definitely after the surgery. 5:13 Speaker 0: I did, you know, 5:15 Speaker 0: all the way up. I mean, I was in a lot of pain, so I was just trying to find relief so that I was taking quite big doses myself. 5:22 Speaker 0: And, and then after I think I dropped the protocol on here, which was recommended 5:27 Speaker 0: by a buddy, very, very, very high doses. 5:29 Speaker 0: And, I have no doubt in my mind that it's 1 of the reasons why I recovered as fast as I have. I mean, even my surgeon was blown away by how well I was doing. So, 5:41 Speaker 0: to answer your question, it's going to be 5:44 Speaker 0: contingent on your pocketbook. If affordability is not a problem, I would, I would run high doses, man. Up there all the way up and all the way past. 5:52 Speaker 1: Agreed. I 5:54 Speaker 1: would agree. I would agree. I would do it definitely before, definitely before. And, 5:59 Speaker 1: and definitely after even use some, like some GHK-2C, 6:02 Speaker 1: you snap 8, 6:04 Speaker 1: facial serum on the site. 6:07 Speaker 1: Let that soak in a bit. 6:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. Post surgery to tighten you up to 6:14 Speaker 1: Tighten the skin up a little bit, 6:16 Speaker 0: and heal it faster. Also, like if your pocketbook is not as big as you would like, and you then just do less, you know, you can run lower doses, you know, it still will help. 6:27 Speaker 0: So, but to answer your question, I would run it all the way up and all the way past. Either way, contingent upon how much you can afford, but, run it either way. 6:35 Speaker 1: Fair enough? Yep. Fair enough. Good. 6:37 Speaker 0: All right. This is a loaded 1. You want to run this 1? 6:42 Speaker 1: Good for you, whoever wrote this in. This is awesome, but damn. So thank you for such amazing podcasts. I tune in twice a week and I love it. I'm 42 and recently lost over 70 pounds in 77 6:54 Speaker 1: to 8 months. Now I'm 135 6:57 Speaker 1: pounds. Damn. My current stacks are in the morning, Tirzepatide, 7:02 Speaker 1: NAD, Kisspeptin, 7:04 Speaker 1: AOD, 7:06 Speaker 1: Glutathione, 7:07 Speaker 1: Lipo C, Cmax, PE-2228, 7:10 Speaker 1: or Selank. 7:12 Speaker 1: Then workout, L Carnitine, 7:16 Speaker 1: 5 Amino-1MQ, 7:18 Speaker 1: SLU-3.3.2. 7:21 Speaker 1: And at night, Tesa, Ipu, CJC, 7:25 Speaker 1: Glow, KPV, 7:27 Speaker 1: DSIP. 7:29 Speaker 0: Damn. 7:30 Speaker 1: GLOW and we're not done yet. And just everybody GLOW is 7:34 Speaker 1: BPC- 7:35 Speaker 1: TB-five 100 and GHK- CU all in 1, which is GHK- CU is a copper peptide. 7:41 Speaker 1: DSI 7:42 Speaker 1: P, I already said that. Okay, period. Now that I've hit my goal, how do I maintain 7:48 Speaker 1: and focus on gaining muscle? Should I keep this stack or adjust it? I'm so excited for this next phase 7:55 Speaker 1: and want to stay healthy and strong. Side note, I tried PT-one hundred 41 intense. 8:01 Speaker 0: I 8:02 Speaker 1: also added a CoQ10, 8:05 Speaker 1: 50 units, 5 times a week. PSJD, 8:08 Speaker 1: you're doing great with your recovery. Well done. 8:11 Speaker 1: Flexing muscle. Can you guys refer a stack for women, 8:15 Speaker 1: to keep us looking fresh or talk more about SNAP-eight? 8:19 Speaker 1: I'm curious and ready to try it. Thank you so much. You guys are great. So 1st of all, I guess I'll make a quick comment. That's a lot, the flood question and you're kicking ass by taking all- taking all that. 8:31 Speaker 1: And yes, I bet your life is drastically different. Welcome. 8:35 Speaker 1: 70 pounds. That's amazing. Pounds. 8:38 Speaker 1: Mean, 8:39 Speaker 1: if you- probably don't recognize it, right? You have now just everything and anything is open to you. 8:45 Speaker 1: Life's a whole lot different. So yeah, hopefully you are ready for this next phase of your life and you should be damn excited about it. 8:51 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, you know, obviously that 8:54 Speaker 1: rapid weight loss is going to plateau a bit, right? And most people, 9:01 Speaker 1: adding muscle, like you said, is going to be the goal, right? You've got to add muscle if you ever want to even continue to lose any weight, right? We got to keep your metabolism fast and that takes adding muscle. No doubt when losing this weight, you lost some muscle. Just, it's just not really possible to lose that much weight without losing some muscle, but keep your metabolism fast and to keep that fat off of you. 9:23 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Primary purpose needs to be adding muscle. Okay. You need to get that because our basal metabolic rate is all based on how much muscle, right? This is our base metabolism. 9:34 Speaker 1: We need muscle to have fast metabolism. 9:36 Speaker 1: Then life is life gets easy, man. You know, you don't have to, your fat just, your metabolism burns off any, any maybe bad food, cheat meals, whatever that you've eaten. 9:49 Speaker 1: And muscle does a whole bunch of good 9:51 Speaker 1: things. 9:52 Speaker 1: So good job, JD. Don't know. Maybe start into maybe 9:56 Speaker 1: some details and suggestions, answer questions 1 x 1. I 9:59 Speaker 0: think that, that's a lot. I mean, I didn't know if I'd ever meet anybody that takes more peptides than me, but you think you win. 10:06 Speaker 0: I would change the tirzepatide. 10:08 Speaker 0: I would switch to Retatrutide. 10:10 Speaker 0: It's just a better GLP-one. 10:13 Speaker 0: I think you'll like it a lot better. You're going to keep more muscle on it anyway. So the fact that you're trying to gain muscle, take out the Tirz and add the Retatrutide. 10:22 Speaker 0: Mean, 10:23 Speaker 0: some of this stuff I would probably take out 10:27 Speaker 0: in kind of just, you don't, I don't think you need to take all that. I would take out, you know, you're taking CJC, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin. I would run an Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin mix, take out the CJC. 10:37 Speaker 0: You got Glow, KPV, just go to, just go to CLO with a K that will mix those 4. So that goes to 1 peptide instead of 2. 10:48 Speaker 0: I'm looking through it. I mean, I don't know. I'd probably drop the 10:52 Speaker 0: lipo C. 10:54 Speaker 0: I like the glutathione in there. 10:56 Speaker 0: I mean, you got a great, great stack. 11:00 Speaker 0: Again, you probably got a couple bucks in your bank because that's quite a bit of money. So good on you. That's awesome. If you can afford it, run it. 11:08 Speaker 0: But yeah, I think the focus would be Retatrutide instead of Tirzepatide. 11:12 Speaker 0: I'm assuming you're taking the Kisspeptin because you're trying to increase your testosterone 11:17 Speaker 0: levels. I would imagine that's why you're doing that. 11:23 Speaker 0: I like the AOD because it's not increasing your IGF-one. 11:26 Speaker 0: I mean, I think that it's good. I mean, what you're doing in regards to taking now is going to give you muscle. 11:34 Speaker 0: Cause you're a woman, 11:36 Speaker 0: A little bit goes a long way with women, especially when you start losing weight and you're getting more toned, you don't need to take as much, you know? So, 11:45 Speaker 0: yeah, I don't know. Did I answer that? Yeah. 11:48 Speaker 1: I mean, sure. That's a tough 1. 11:51 Speaker 1: I will do my best to kind of die. Also, 11:54 Speaker 1: a lot of I agree with I don't disagree. Well, the only thing I disagree with is lipo C. So glutathione and lipo C are basically just vitamins. 12:02 Speaker 1: Okay? 12:04 Speaker 1: And those, those are awesome and just can be ran. 12:08 Speaker 1: Different, 12:09 Speaker 1: sometimes different definitions of lipo C, but, 12:12 Speaker 1: I think that those are great underlying, almost just like, Hey, use them as like a multi daily, as a, as a multivitamin. 12:19 Speaker 1: Great. Add Thymosin Alpha then. That's a good thing. Absolutely. You can add thymosin Alpha to them. It helps reduce inflammation, helps regulate your immune system. And, I love that stuff. I take it. I take it consistently. 12:32 Speaker 1: To add muscles, 12:34 Speaker 1: so SLU-3P is a good performance 12:37 Speaker 1: enhancer as well as, 12:39 Speaker 1: it's 1 of its big things is nutrient partitioning. So, hey, if we want to add muscle, right, a nutrient partitioner, right, telling our body to 12:48 Speaker 1: take different macronutrients 12:50 Speaker 1: and shove them really fast into the right places. 12:53 Speaker 1: Protein, fat, carbs, 12:56 Speaker 1: IGF-1LR3 12:57 Speaker 1: is another 1 that is not as, I guess, 13:01 Speaker 1: and generic as SLU- but 13:03 Speaker 1: needs to be, can be ran if you run it correctly, 13:08 Speaker 1: is a really good nutrient partitioner. You can, you can use that to gain some great muscle. Okay. If you're doing it right. 13:17 Speaker 0: And you can, you can DM JD on, I don't know, I mean, in a more detailed questions, I suppose. Yeah, I, you obviously listen and I we're grateful, man, that so many people seem to be enjoying the podcast. Mean, we, 13:29 Speaker 0: we're still blown away by how it's grown so fast, but yeah, if you, I'm assuming you follow me on Instagram, so I would love to chat with you. I love your passion. 13:37 Speaker 0: I'm so stoked. You lost 70 pounds. That is a huge accomplishment. Good on you. Shoot me a DM and let me know that this is you and I'd love to answer any other questions. Maybe get dig a little deeper into some things, but awesome. Love it. Yep. And I guess finally, like you could, you could be, I don't know the 13:53 Speaker 1: Kisspeptin, right? That was my question too. Like, what is the purpose on the Kisspeptin 13:57 Speaker 1: maybe to increase your, your testosterone hormones? 14:01 Speaker 1: You could take a low dose woman female dose of testosterone 14:06 Speaker 1: of the age, but it depends on some of the factors, that can be an option. Even a low dose of actual 14:14 Speaker 1: HGH 14:16 Speaker 1: might be something really good for you, it seems like. But 14:21 Speaker 1: also, 14:22 Speaker 1: I think maybe Jay, you said this is like, Cool, you're taking a whole lot. I would almost like lower that. I would get really particular 14:29 Speaker 1: and go maybe in 4 months cycles 14:32 Speaker 1: of things, right? Because you're doing maybe some things that can be redundant. 14:36 Speaker 1: Let's keep, 14:38 Speaker 1: you know, 4 months of this 1 and then pull that out as you're adding this new stack in there. Yeah. So, 14:44 Speaker 1: so your body doesn't get used to everything and then everything stops 14:48 Speaker 1: working as well. I want your body to be fresh 14:52 Speaker 1: for 14:53 Speaker 1: new things. I almost cut that in 0.5 strategically, 14:57 Speaker 1: right? 4 months cycle and then back acting new stuff and your body will react a whole lot better to that stuff that it hasn't touched in the last 4 months. Yeah. 15:07 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Good question, man. Mean- Medium man. Love Oh, to talk about 15:10 Speaker 1: the last part is, Hey, 15:13 Speaker 1: you do, can you guys refer stack for women? 15:16 Speaker 1: Yes, we can. Our next, 15:20 Speaker 1: peptides of the week 15:21 Speaker 0: is precisely on that. So you'll hear about that. We're gonna be dropping a peptide, 3 peptide stacks for you ladies. We did TRT and HCG last week for the men. So we wanted to drop, 15:33 Speaker 0: some peptide stacks for you gals. So listen to the next 1 dropping. Should drop on Monday. 15:39 Speaker 0: Yep. 15:40 Speaker 0: All right. How important is it to refrigerate peptides after reconstitution? 15:44 Speaker 0: It is absolutely vital. You need to, if you don't, they will go, 15:48 Speaker 0: they will go bad, not right away, but, they will lose their potency 15:52 Speaker 1: and, you have to. Yep. A couple of things to add there. It's like, yeah, you should, If 15:59 Speaker 1: prolonged, if they warm up, they could potentially be less efficacious, right? They just lose their potency and they're not going to just die and be worthless. They're not going to be bad for you, but they could be less potent when you why why would you want that? 16:12 Speaker 1: A couple other things to note there, right? And we're, we're still learning some things. So, 16:18 Speaker 1: when before mixing, 16:20 Speaker 1: we don't actually want your water to be super duper super really cold. If you add really, really cold water too fast into a lyophilized bottle, it could potentially like make that peptide gel up when that peptide wouldn't have normally 16:35 Speaker 1: gelled up. 16:37 Speaker 1: So recommendations keep water, keep your water, 16:40 Speaker 1: at maybe 16:41 Speaker 1: a little bit colder than room temp. That's fine. And add it slowly. These things are gentle, right? Mean, these things are sensitive, so be gentle. 16:50 Speaker 1: They are chains of amino acids and, like, darn near, like, living organisms. 16:54 Speaker 1: Right? So, you know, never shake the bottle. 16:58 Speaker 1: Keep it cool after mixing. Keep them pretty keep them cool before mixing also. 17:04 Speaker 1: I always 17:05 Speaker 1: store everything I have in a 17:08 Speaker 1: in a refrigerator, 17:09 Speaker 1: and, 17:11 Speaker 1: not every single peptide actually has to be kept cold, believe it or not, even after mixing. Some of these just are are 17:19 Speaker 1: are really robust and they do not lose potency when they warm up a little bit, even post mixing. But, but more often than not, they do need to be refrigerated. 17:28 Speaker 0: Yeah. 17:29 Speaker 0: Just might as well keep them cold, man. Even I think you're talking about BPC or do you, what other ones are you talking about? I think BBC both and TB. 17:37 Speaker 1: There's a few other new tropics. 17:41 Speaker 0: It might be an interesting thing to just kind of put out a list there. Need to do a little Yeah, more that's actually good. We'll dip in on that next time. That's good. Yeah, good stuff. They're delicate, treat them as such. I think, you know, people will squirt in the water very directly right onto, 17:58 Speaker 0: and that can affect it. You know, some of them are very delicate. AOD and NAD in particular, 18:03 Speaker 0: they will get cloudy and they can clump up those 2 in particular. 18:07 Speaker 0: So if you don't treat those 2 18:10 Speaker 0: in particular delicate, 18:12 Speaker 0: they can have, I mean, all of them can get cloudy. It's 18:15 Speaker 0: mixing them properly and storing them properly, and we're paying money for them and we want them to work. So it's best to just do them the best that you can keep them cold after mixing. 18:26 Speaker 0: You know, when you inject the water, let the water just kind of pool. I always just kind of tip it, the needle where it hits the side where it doesn't go directly on it and just go real slow. Yep. Dihexa is 18:37 Speaker 1: a lyophilized peptide is another 1 that doesn't really mix well with water. 18:41 Speaker 1: Frankly, I use it anyway, even though it doesn't fully dilute, but, 18:46 Speaker 1: there are other like reconstitution solutions out there that will help with that, I guess. And while we're on that guys, I would use bacterial static water. There is a difference between sterile water and bacterial static water. Bacterial static water has 0.09% 19:01 Speaker 1: benzyl alcohol added to it. Basically that will keep your, 19:06 Speaker 1: it will help your peptide from degrading if 19:09 Speaker 1: it's mixed and in the bottle. So sterile water is just fine if you are going to mix and then inject that entire thing. 19:16 Speaker 1: But if you are going to mix it and then use several doses over several days of the peptide, it must be in bacteriostatic 19:24 Speaker 1: water. 19:25 Speaker 0: Good to 19:27 Speaker 0: know, man. 19:28 Speaker 0: All right. Wolverine blend help with the healing of a partially torn rotator cup. 100%. 19:36 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Absolutely. 19:38 Speaker 1: Get it now before it fully tears off. If 19:42 Speaker 1: you have a complete tear and the tissue is not connected, there's 19:47 Speaker 1: not gonna be a magical power that just connects the usually things kind of roll, roll up when they get foamy tear torn, right? So if it's still connected, yeah, those fibers can now kind of grow back together. 19:59 Speaker 1: I had the same thing with my sports hernia 20:02 Speaker 1: on my, pelvis. My tendon was 20:05 Speaker 1: partially torn off of my pelvis 20:08 Speaker 1: and I was able to heal it all the way back down. But hell yeah, 20:13 Speaker 1: saturate that site. 20:14 Speaker 0: Yeah, inject that sucker. I had, I had my, I had my torn, I had a tear in my shoulder. My left shoulder was so long and I wasn't even amazed how good the TB BPC blend worked, man. I could not raise my leg. I couldn't do that for the longest time I gave up on it and I started using it and I, now it's good, man. It's crazy. So yeah, it'll help. 1 of them will help. It. ARA- There you go. I'm 48 and go to the gym, 20:37 Speaker 1: but very little results. 20:40 Speaker 1: I've been trying to, learn more about peptides, but it's just a lot and too many people say this and that. True that. Yeah. Everybody's got their own opinion. Yeah. Yep. 20:52 Speaker 1: I just don't 20:53 Speaker 1: really know what I need. My goals are, 20:56 Speaker 1: I like to put on more muscle and lose the gut, 21:00 Speaker 1: and I can tell or feel I'm off mentally and physically, like my sex drive is not there like it was. Well. 21:07 Speaker 0: It's an easy math on this 1, boys. You need to go get your blood work right away. And I'm going to tell you, you're going to be under 300 testosterone. 21:15 Speaker 0: Fix it. You do not need to live like that. My brother, it is an easy fix. And if you did not listen to our podcast, 21:22 Speaker 0: we talked about TRT and ECG. 21:25 Speaker 0: So dude, I'm almost certain you have low testosterone and you can, oh, you're 48. You for sure have low testosterone, brother. You can feel like 1000000 bucks in 3 weeks. 21:35 Speaker 0: Yep. Change your life through weeks. I would literally bet a lot of money that that's the issue and it will solve once you start doing testosterone. That's not why it's also why you're not seeing results. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you're not losing weight, if you're not gaining muscle, you're not, you don't have testosterone, dude. Like you you're a man, you need it. You need, you need quite a bit of it. So if you're at, you won't be able to burn fat nearly as well. You won't be able to put on muscle, your brain fog. You will have a super reduced sex drive. 22:03 Speaker 1: All of that can be healed 22:05 Speaker 1: and fixed. Yeah, man. Go fix that man. 3 weeks, you are gonna be feeling like a new man and hit us up. Let us know. Yep. Fix that 1st, then start looking and then put a little bit of work ethic. Sounds like you already have that. You're going to the gym, but just make you change, 22:20 Speaker 1: be consistent. And then we could see if there's anything else we'd you'd wanna add. Absolutely. 22:26 Speaker 0: I'm taking rad 140 MK-677. 22:29 Speaker 0: Do I stop taking my weekly test 22:32 Speaker 0: shot while I cycle? Both. Absolutely not. No, no. You want to definitely stay on your TRT 100%. 22:39 Speaker 1: Right? Well, I would agree. Both of those are SARMs. Well, MK-677 22:44 Speaker 1: is like a non peptide HGH secreted GOG. Right. 22:47 Speaker 1: But hell yeah, there's no reason. 22:50 Speaker 1: There's no reason you should get off of your testosterone and then in fact, you should not just 22:56 Speaker 1: stay on that, man. That needs to just be kind of a border, like a, just a baseline 23:02 Speaker 1: always. 23:04 Speaker 0: Period. Yeah. Super simple math on that 1. 23:07 Speaker 1: You want this 1? 0, yeah, I got Sorry. 23:09 Speaker 1: Where and how can I get reputable non Chinese pet pads without going through, without 23:15 Speaker 1: going through a functional and integrative medicine provider? 23:19 Speaker 0: Hey, here 23:21 Speaker 0: we go. 23:22 Speaker 1: I guess, 23:24 Speaker 1: hit up, I mean, can, I don't know, text- text Diddy with some like, yeah, he can help- I mean, I'll 23:30 Speaker 0: just kind of be blunt with people and there there's gonna be, I'll be attacked for this, but I'm used to it? So maybe I'll take this 1. So we'll, 23:37 Speaker 0: we'll doesn't get attacked. 23:40 Speaker 0: The raw forms of peptides are coming from China. So I know that you're gonna have other people tell you that that's not the case. 23:48 Speaker 0: That is the case. They're coming from China. Now, if they come here and they compound them here and, you know, that's, they're saying they're legally able to say they're from America, but, the raws come from China. And if someone tells you opposite, they either don't know or they're lying. Yep. Yep. And that is what it is, man. The big guys, the big pharmaceutical 24:10 Speaker 1: companies that you buy stuff off of all the time, 24:13 Speaker 1: they buy their stuff from China. 24:15 Speaker 1: They buy their raws from China or India. 24:18 Speaker 1: But there can be a difference, you know, like I would, you know, what you're looking for is somebody, some, you know, 24:24 Speaker 1: get the raws and then have them independently test it by the company. Alright? 24:29 Speaker 1: It's just it's fine. They can make good raw. They make good they make good stuff. They some of them make bad stuff, but 24:35 Speaker 1: that's why the good company would buy them from there, 24:39 Speaker 1: bring them here, test the raws by an independent, like, testing lab, 24:45 Speaker 1: Jan O'Sheac, LiquiLabs, 24:47 Speaker 1: and 24:47 Speaker 1: then they can 24:49 Speaker 1: Made in America basically means they put the little salt tab in there. They lyophilize 24:54 Speaker 1: the which the salt tab and vacuum seal the bottle. It is now lyophilized and made in America. 25:02 Speaker 0: But the raws come from China. So 25:04 Speaker 0: you know. There you go. Here's your answer, man. All 25:07 Speaker 0: right. Let's see. Page number 2. What 25:12 Speaker 0: is a good dose when stacking Ipamorelin 25:15 Speaker 0: AM 25:16 Speaker 0: and Sermorelin 25:17 Speaker 0: PM? Thanks. This is your up your alley, brother. Yeah. 25:22 Speaker 1: I think so. 25:25 Speaker 1: I'm you know, you wanna look at I'd say dosing recommendations are probably anywhere between 2 50 micrograms, 25:32 Speaker 1: upwards to 2 25:34 Speaker 1: mg, 25:35 Speaker 1: right, which is 2000 mg. 25:37 Speaker 1: I personally do about it. Would prefer to do 1 mg, which is 1000 micrograms 25:43 Speaker 1: of each of them. Yeah. Keep it simple. 25:45 Speaker 1: Right? So yeah, keep it simple. I like to do 1 mg. 25:49 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin, Sermorelin. 25:53 Speaker 1: That's where I like. You can tell 25:56 Speaker 1: if 25:57 Speaker 1: you're doing, if you're, if it's too much, 25:59 Speaker 1: might start to retain water. So you'll see a little like bloating. You may maybe look a little bit bloated. 26:05 Speaker 1: That's the natural effect. If it's a little bit too much, I would back the dose down and then gradually 26:11 Speaker 1: titrate your 26:12 Speaker 1: dosage back up if you notice that. But 26:18 Speaker 1: no less than 2 50 micrograms, you won't, they're probably ain't gonna do anything. 26:22 Speaker 1: If you want to start at 500 micrograms and work your way up to 1000, but personally I like 1000. 26:29 Speaker 0: Mean, just if you want me to throw a little curve ball at you just for fun, what I would do is I would, 26:34 Speaker 0: I would take out the Sermorelin 26:37 Speaker 0: and I would go with HGH in the morning and I would go with an Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin mix at night. You get a lot more benefit out of it if you do that. Just a suggestion, brother. Just a matter of an opinion, I guess. Yeah. 26:49 Speaker 0: All right. Semaglutide, how do you know if it's good quality? My provider prescribed me 26:54 Speaker 0: some, 26:55 Speaker 0: it was already mixed in liquid form. Is this okay or not? 27:00 Speaker 0: And what is your best recommendation for growth hormone support? 27:04 Speaker 1: All right. All right. I think that, 27:07 Speaker 1: yeah, I don't really like the fact that the prescriber, 27:10 Speaker 1: you know, that they gave you some already mixed and had you take it home unless they gave it to you in some type of ice pack and gave you very specific instructions to keep it cool the entire time because it can degrade. And if they're not telling you that, who knows what they're also doing behind, you know, who knows? They left it out, you know, mix it a week ago and then left it on their counter and let it just degrade and degrade and degrade. Yeah. 27:33 Speaker 1: Also, 27:34 Speaker 1: how can you tell that's tough? 27:37 Speaker 1: You can tell by doing a little extra and if get a little flush red, 27:41 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, right? That's what they do. If you do too much, 27:46 Speaker 1: get a little bit, you get a little flushed feeling. 27:49 Speaker 1: Then you at least know that it's 1 27:53 Speaker 1: of 20 baptized that does that to you. 27:56 Speaker 0: But, 27:57 Speaker 1: you know, it's something. After 28:00 Speaker 1: the HGH builds up and you, right, you should feel your 28:05 Speaker 1: knuckles kind of feeling like they have arthritis, like a bit swollen, maybe like tingling in your fingertips, 28:10 Speaker 1: hands. 28:11 Speaker 1: You know that the stuff is good and working if that's the case. 28:16 Speaker 1: That's and that goes for any, 28:19 Speaker 1: HGH, anytime that your, your not your growth hormone has increased 28:24 Speaker 1: to a good amount, that's gonna happen. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I don't know. That's it, dude. Mean, my recommendation is Tesamorelin instead of Cimarron. And my recommendation is to take Ipamorelin and Tesamorelin 28:36 Speaker 1: blend. 28:37 Speaker 1: Always better, right? They're gonna work synergistically 28:40 Speaker 1: when you're taking a GHR H and a GHRP 28:44 Speaker 1: together. 28:45 Speaker 1: Okay. They, they, 28:48 Speaker 1: yeah, they work better when together. Okay. 28:52 Speaker 0: Yeah. I was gonna say the same thing. I mean, I think we, well, and I both agree on this without even asking him. I mean, we just, if 28:59 Speaker 0: there's other choices besides Sermorelin, that would be the last choice. There's other secretagogues that are just gonna do a lot better for you. I would suggest now to answer your actual question, in my opinion, 29:10 Speaker 0: if you got that shipped, 29:13 Speaker 0: I wouldn't really particularly like that. If it was mixed, there's high probability that it would not stay cold enough being shipped. I don't know. I don't know the whole situation. 29:21 Speaker 0: I'm not going to knock any other company. I don't know. I don't care. I'm just saying, I personally, 29:25 Speaker 0: they're prying to trying to prying, probably trying to sell it like that because they make it easy on people. But the thing is once you mix a peptide once or twice, dude, it's easy. 29:34 Speaker 0: It's easy. So, 29:35 Speaker 0: you might want to try a different provider that, comes and you mix it yourself just to be safe. Yeah. Here you go. 29:42 Speaker 1: Okay. 29:43 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry. We did that. Is CJC-twelve 29:47 Speaker 1: 95 29:48 Speaker 1: and plus Ipamorelin 29:49 Speaker 1: blend 29:50 Speaker 1: something you can and should stack with Retta? 29:54 Speaker 1: If so, is that a better choice than TesaReta? 30:02 Speaker 1: Don't know what you're trying to go for. I think so. 30:05 Speaker 1: So, 30:06 Speaker 1: again, all right, let's go back to like, 1st of all, there is absolutely no issue with taking Retta and 30:11 Speaker 1: an HGH secretagog. 30:13 Speaker 1: K? They do not there's no contraindications. 30:15 Speaker 1: They do not conflict. There is no problem. They do different things. It's not redundant. 30:21 Speaker 1: So go ahead. Now, 30:23 Speaker 1: is CJC- Epimorelin better than C- Tessareta? 30:27 Speaker 1: Well, CJC, 30:28 Speaker 1: the thing that 30:30 Speaker 0: you would beat CJC 30:32 Speaker 1: and Tessa are the 2 things that would be alternates. 30:35 Speaker 1: Right? So it'd be either the question would be, should I take CJC-1295IPA 30:40 Speaker 1: plus Retta or 30:42 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin IPA 30:44 Speaker 1: plus Retta. 30:46 Speaker 1: CJC and CJC 30:48 Speaker 1: is going to be a stronger 30:51 Speaker 1: secretagogue. 30:52 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit longer acting and not as physiologically 30:55 Speaker 1: normal like we normally 30:57 Speaker 1: produce, 30:59 Speaker 1: 6 or so like fast 31:01 Speaker 1: pulses of HGH throughout the day. 31:04 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin is going to be a lot more like that, right? A lot more like your natural process. 31:09 Speaker 1: CJC 31:10 Speaker 1: is gonna just be pushing more growth hormone out, of your body. 31:16 Speaker 1: And therefore it's gonna work a little bit better, but sometimes it's maybe too much. 31:21 Speaker 0: Yeah. 31:22 Speaker 0: Think 31:23 Speaker 0: that was a good answer. Mean, I would, I would, I I'm going to answer it just very simply. Would go with the Tesamorelin. 31:29 Speaker 0: You're doing RET, I'm assuming, drop body fat. Tesamorelin is going to focus on the belly fat, so you'll sleep better. So you're going to get, if you get asked 10 people, you might get 10 different answers. I would go with the Tesamorelin and the Retta. I would add the Tessa Ipamorelin and 31:45 Speaker 0: the Retta, but yeah, you can mix them. 31:48 Speaker 1: My answer is Tesla Ipamorelin. There you go, bro. True that. Yep. Tesamorelin is gonna be better for, I mean, literally just targets you, belly fat. So literally, 31:58 Speaker 1: yeah. 31:59 Speaker 0: Oh, 32:00 Speaker 0: best peptide for muscle development for women. 32:06 Speaker 0: Ipamorelin? 32:07 Speaker 0: Tesamorelin? Would do the blend for women. I mean, I keep Now 32:12 Speaker 0: let's, it's such a vague question and here's the thing. 32:16 Speaker 0: What's your weight? What do you look like? Are you athletic? 32:20 Speaker 0: My wife is super toned. I literally just give her a little bit of Tesamorelin and man, it just transformed 32:26 Speaker 0: her body. She's been in the best shape of her life. 32:29 Speaker 0: And I just give her a little bit of Tesamorelin. I just take her, took her off of that recently, but, 33:01 Speaker 1: build more lean muscle, but it actually increase your hunger a little bit. And the more you eat, the more muscle you build. 33:09 Speaker 1: But my actual real answer, I would say for a woman, I would do it, I would do 33:14 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin blend or the CJC-twelve 33:18 Speaker 1: 95 and Ipamorelin. 33:20 Speaker 1: That 1 is stronger and it is known to potentially, because it's so strong, cause 33:25 Speaker 1: you to retain a little bit of water, which is obviously that's not the goal, but that can be solved by lowering the dose and slowly titrating your way up. Another maybe thing like SLU-3.32, 33:40 Speaker 1: or even, 33:42 Speaker 1: IGF-1LR-three, 33:44 Speaker 1: those nutrient practitioners, 33:45 Speaker 1: those, if you are actively working out and eating correctly and lifting, 33:51 Speaker 1: particularly 33:52 Speaker 1: lifting weights, if you are out there tearing 33:54 Speaker 1: muscle tissue down and trying to eat protein to make that muscle build back, those 2 will really, really help 34:00 Speaker 1: protein getting back into your muscles and you growing more muscle. 34:04 Speaker 0: There 34:05 Speaker 0: you go. We're about to drop a podcast that is going to focus on, women's 3 women's stacks. So make sure you listen to the Monday, 34:14 Speaker 0: drop because I think you'll like it. 34:16 Speaker 0: Right. Is it best to take any and all peptides 34:19 Speaker 0: fasted like BPC-157, 34:22 Speaker 0: TB, and MOTS-1.00 34:24 Speaker 0: percent. 34:28 Speaker 0: Easy on them. Yes. You should take them fasted morning and night. 34:32 Speaker 0: That's That's 34:33 Speaker 1: They're better. They just get into you better. 34:37 Speaker 0: 100%. 34:38 Speaker 0: So take them fast. The thing right when you wake up and before you, if you go to like do the nighttime ones, 34:43 Speaker 1: give yourself an hour at least, if you can, an hour and 0.5, can better and you're golden. Good to go. Last question. You wanna run it? Sorry. Okay. I am 42. Just started on TRT after my test showed I was in the 300s. 34:56 Speaker 1: I work out and I'm active, about 20% body fat. 35:00 Speaker 1: I wanted to start taking a secret to GOG and was looking at maybe Tesamorelin or CJCIPAmorelin, 35:06 Speaker 1: Looking to build some lean muscle, 35:08 Speaker 1: get more defined lower body fat. What would be a good place to start for someone 35:13 Speaker 1: new to peptides 35:15 Speaker 1: to complement the TRT? 35:19 Speaker 1: I'm looking to build some lean muscle and get some fine lower body fat. 35:25 Speaker 1: Man, Retatrutide, man. 35:29 Speaker 0: The Cowboys always dances that Retatrutide. 35:31 Speaker 0: I mean, just, just to be so swimming, a sea of redundancy for you guys. I mean, just, I mean, bodybuilders are taking it. Gym rats are taking it. Is not just to, for people to lose weight. If that's your objective, sure, it's going to work for that, but dude, like, it's a damn scientific breakthrough. It will chisel fat off you faster than you can like believe your 1st week you'll be amazed. And the benefit there is like, you still build muscle. Like it does not just like dry mouth. You be like, Oh, I don't want to touch food, disgusting. I want to throw up. Like, that's, that is the real miracle, right? Like you, 36:06 Speaker 0: you still have an appetite. You still want food. Now it forces portion control because you end up getting full too a little too fast, you know, which is a good thing usually. 36:14 Speaker 0: And it changes your food desires. So now you don't want ice cream. You just want to eat more chicken. 36:20 Speaker 1: Right. Trip. Which is awesome. It's trippy. So I don't think that it is just, 36:25 Speaker 1: you know, is just to lose weight. Oh, I'm gonna lose all my muscle. It actually is like protecting your muscle as well. Literally. So you can eat and yeah, dude, I would I would you just started your TRT. 36:37 Speaker 1: Holy shit. That's gonna help a lot, man, at 300, like, but give it time. Give it give it some time. We're gonna give you a test siponate. I'm sure it's a it's a longer acting ester. Right? I give that really it depends on 36:50 Speaker 1: your doctor and how many weeks how old they're administering you. I don't know if they're gonna start you, you know, 20 mg and then bump up by 5 mg a week. That sucks if they do, but 37:01 Speaker 1: hopefully they 37:02 Speaker 1: bump you up so you can actually feel it and see it. You should feel and see it within 2 weeks. 37:08 Speaker 1: All right. You should really feel and see it within a month. 37:12 Speaker 1: And life will be a lot better and then adding the red would be awesome. There's no problem. Would do to I would do Tesamorelin, 37:18 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin blend 37:19 Speaker 1: to directly answer the question. 37:22 Speaker 1: That'll help your HGH, which is just a compliment to your testosterone as well. But Retta would be my 1st number 1 answer. 37:30 Speaker 1: You're adding 37:32 Speaker 0: TRT into your life at 300. You don't, oh, you do say your age. You're 42. So dude, bro, 37:37 Speaker 0: you're that's alone is going to change your dang your life. You're going to be a do man here soon as long as your dose is right. 37:44 Speaker 0: And then I'm assuming you got some belly fat like most 42 year olds do, bro. You add in some red on top, dude. Give yourself a month and 0.5 with those 2 things, bro. You're gonna feel amazing. Look a lot better. 37:56 Speaker 1: There you go, dude. There's the answer. Just, and it is for reference everybody like 20%, 38:02 Speaker 1: you know, so generally at 10%, that's when you start to see your 6 pack. Okay. When 38:09 Speaker 1: walking around and won't get anybody up to the men, they're short off, right, about 10%. And then we can start seeing your abs. That's how lean you need to get to see the abs, have like the best 6 pack ever, but to see individuals, 38:21 Speaker 1: individual 38:22 Speaker 1: abdominal muscles. 38:23 Speaker 1: I think if you, if you look at 1 of those like medical charts, they're gonna say men should be like 14 to 18%, right? I think that really to be healthy, to be healthy and look good, you should be under 15%. 38:35 Speaker 1: Men, men, women getting 38:38 Speaker 1: under 20% is actually tough, right? Sorry, women, you guys are meant to have babies and need more fat. And 38:45 Speaker 1: that just is what it is. So, 38:48 Speaker 1: good job. Get on you, building muscle and the STRT is going to help immensely. 38:54 Speaker 0: It's going to help you burn fat out of muscle, but you need to keep adding your muscle if you want to burn fat. Hit that gym, baby. I'll tell you too quickly. And on this, I, you know, I worked with so many men that like just never 39:05 Speaker 0: thought that they were going be able to see their abs and, 39:08 Speaker 0: diet and, 39:11 Speaker 0: TRT, 39:11 Speaker 0: certain things, obviously some supplements just added. I'm telling you, could show you transformations and that'll blow your mind. So you can see your abs too, brother. Just keep on working, work your butt off, get your diet right. Keep doing what you're doing, man. 39:25 Speaker 1: You can do it. You know what, believe mine is seeing those side by side pictures, especially of women who are like 39:31 Speaker 1: 10 pounds heavier in this picture, right? Because they, they actually, they added muscle and they cut a lot of fat, but they're 10 pounds heavier in this 1, but they look 10 times better here. 39:42 Speaker 1: Maybe not realize like, cares about the scale weight, man, it is all about your body composition. 39:46 Speaker 0: 100%. 39:48 Speaker 1: That's what really matters. Well, hell in the mirror, 39:51 Speaker 0: you know, 39:52 Speaker 1: I mean further, right? What do you really just look like? That, that is important. And that's important how we, 39:57 Speaker 1: how we feel and how we 39:59 Speaker 0: carry out. Oh dude, like if you, you know, if you, you know, you're not liking how you look and you go on a trip with your family or something in summertime and you don't want to take your shirt off, that sucks, dude. So, 40:10 Speaker 0: you don't gotta live like that, man. And you can any age, I don't care, man. I'm, I'm going to be in the gym even if I'm crunched over at 75, 40:17 Speaker 0: dude. 40:18 Speaker 0: Just, you know what I mean? It's a way of life, man. I hope you adopt it. Yes. 40:22 Speaker 0: Yep. Yeah, brother. Well, that was a good 1. I enjoyed that and, hope you all enjoyed it as well. Again, we will be switching up the days that these podcasts are dropping. 40:33 Speaker 0: The Peptide of the Week will be dropping on Monday. 40:37 Speaker 0: This podcast will still drop on, this Saturday, but the next Q and A will be dropping on Thursday. So Mondays and Thursdays will be dropping to a week. We enjoy you. Anything else before we go? No, 40:49 Speaker 1: I like this and I appreciate all of you who are interested in this and making yourselves better. 40:55 Speaker 1: Love it. So keep kicking ass out. Such a joy. And I really, I don't know. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. And we're happy to keep doing this. All right, man. Well, guys, catch you on the flip side. You guys have a good day. Bye.