Peptide Q&A #6 – Perimenopause Stack, IGF-1 LR3 Cycles, DSIP Sleep Fix, CJC w/wo DAC Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-6-perimenopause-stack-igf-1-lr3-cycles-dsip-sleep-fix-cjc-w-wo-dac/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: What's up my friends? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week. It is a Q and A episode and we're excited to go through these like always. We got some good questions. 0:11 Speaker 0: I'm your host, JD Denham, and I got my co host across the way, Mr. William T. Haas, my brother. How you doing? Good, man. I'm doing well, bro. 0:21 Speaker 0: Busy, busy, busy, busy. I see it in your face. Yeah. 0:26 Speaker 0: My gray hair is on the side. Welcome to the club, bro. You know, just need to get a haircut soon. Yeah, it's you, man. But we, we got some good questions, man. And, just, you know, just to let everybody know, just for fun, we do this for fun. We like talking about peptides. We like talking about testosterone replacement. 0:44 Speaker 0: We've been into it a long time and all we're doing is just giving you our opinions. We are not doctors. If you're looking for a doctor's help, go seek a doctor. Fair enough. All right. Let's dig into this man. These are going to be good. So I'll start here. So number 1, 0:58 Speaker 0: woman age 47 likely pre menopause feel like I'm inflamed often. What peptides 1:05 Speaker 0: will help in dosage? 1:07 Speaker 0: Side note, I do take Ipah and CJC 1:10 Speaker 0: at night right now. 1:13 Speaker 0: We've been asked just a few times, but let's dig into it. 1:16 Speaker 1: We haven't had pretty much this exact same question 2 weeks ago. 1:21 Speaker 1: And 1:23 Speaker 1: obviously these questions, 1:26 Speaker 1: you know, I, we do, we do a lot of these most off the cuff, right? I've looked at these, 1:31 Speaker 1: you know, for about 20 minutes, but kind of after that, we do a lot bigger, 1:36 Speaker 1: deep dive and the 1st answer. So the pre modern puzzle, pre modern puzzle like symptoms 1:41 Speaker 1: are brain 1:43 Speaker 1: fog, right? 1:45 Speaker 1: Starting, you know, bones being a little bit weak in the starting of osteoporosis, 1:49 Speaker 1: right? The lack of libido, 1:51 Speaker 1: lack of energy, 1:53 Speaker 1: irritability, 1:55 Speaker 1: irritability, then like number 1 biggest suggestion 1:58 Speaker 1: is Sermorelin. 1:59 Speaker 1: Okay. 2:00 Speaker 1: It will really help all of those. It's a secret dog. So you're getting a lot of the benefits, 2:05 Speaker 1: same as with, you know, pretty much same as your CJC, Epimorelin, as far as your bone density increasing, 2:12 Speaker 1: And brain 2:13 Speaker 1: fog lifting. Sermorelin has some properties that really do help with libido a bit more. 2:20 Speaker 0: 141 2:21 Speaker 0: obviously will help with that. Yeah, absolutely. 2:24 Speaker 1: If it's actual, 2:26 Speaker 0: sexy time PT-one hundred 41 is the thing. I mean, there's a lot of answers to that. I mean, and there's a lot of great peptides. I mean, we, I would probably, I won't answer this for you, Will, but if you're going to take the Ipah and the CJC and we're saying Sermorelin, we'd probably pull out the CJC HIPAA and use the Sermorelin. You don't want to run to secretive dogs in my opinion. 2:44 Speaker 0: To try that. And when it comes to like, 2:47 Speaker 0: in regards to mood swings and things like that, I would personally say if we, if you run a C LONC and a C Max that can help with that sex drive PT-one hundred 41. 2:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2:59 Speaker 1: And so, 3:00 Speaker 1: inflammation, right? Thymosin Alpha is just, is your number 1 best thing for inflammation. Huge. Love it. 3:08 Speaker 1: Hands down. And I would run like a milligram. 3:12 Speaker 1: I do. Okay. I do run a 3:16 Speaker 1: milligram a day. 3:18 Speaker 1: I love it for 3:19 Speaker 1: immunity 3:20 Speaker 1: also 3:21 Speaker 1: like balancing immunity and anti inflammation. 3:25 Speaker 1: That's 3:26 Speaker 1: huge and I love it. And then TB-five hundred for 3:29 Speaker 1: inflammation that, 3:31 Speaker 1: that kind of kicks ass 3:33 Speaker 1: healed. I've healed myself some lots of old injuries and feel much better. Now I generally do the blend of BPC TB. Now BPC is really targeting 3:44 Speaker 1: healing where you put it. Whereas TB 500 is helping anti 3:49 Speaker 1: inflame and heal everything. 3:53 Speaker 1: So if, if general inflammation 3:55 Speaker 1: is an issue, Thymosin Alpha, absolutely TB-five 3:58 Speaker 1: hundred. And I think Sermorelin, 4:00 Speaker 1: is a great 4:03 Speaker 1: antidote 4:04 Speaker 1: or help for potential. Yeah. So premenopausal 4:07 Speaker 1: issues. 4:09 Speaker 0: Know side note that, I 4:12 Speaker 0: have told you numerous times, but, Thymosin Alpha, my wife and I had been taking it and, I had kind of run out and I hadn't gone anymore. And, she was getting sick just being around my son, going to school and all that stuff. And, she didn't got sick the whole time she was on it. As soon as I pulled her off, we'd been off, off it about a month. She got sick. 4:29 Speaker 0: Slow side note, man. That's 1 of our favorites for a reason. Stuff works. 4:33 Speaker 0: Yes, sir. Sup warriors for IGF-1LR-3I 4:38 Speaker 0: see the bottles are no bigger than 1 mg. Will 1 mg work immediately or do I have to buy 3 months supply to gain benefits like a Tesamorelin? 4:49 Speaker 0: We say, 4:52 Speaker 1: 1. Yeah, I know. I understand the bottles are 1 big, but the dosage amount is super small that you take, Starting off like 50 micrograms. So 1 mg is 1000 micrograms, 5:01 Speaker 1: right? 5:02 Speaker 1: And starting your dose should be around 50 micrograms to 100 micrograms. 5:08 Speaker 1: So, 5:10 Speaker 1: there it'll last you a long time now. Yeah, I would, but I would, it is going to work pretty quick. It's 1 of these that's going to work quick. You, you, if you're taking it right, you should be training 5:20 Speaker 1: hard and eating right. 5:23 Speaker 1: To maximize 5:24 Speaker 1: the muscle growth. And I, but I would say do about 4 to 6 weeks. Okay. 5:32 Speaker 1: Not 3 months. 5:34 Speaker 1: And 5:35 Speaker 1: then goes, go, I don't know, go strong with that, but you're gonna need 1 bottle is gonna last you about 20 days. 5:43 Speaker 1: About depending on how, how, how you go. So I would probably just, you know, you're going to want to do, do the whole side and don't just do 1 bottle's worth. 5:51 Speaker 0: Get, do it 4 to 6 weeks, which is going to make use about 2 to 3 bottles. So might as well. Don't care if you maybe buy them all at once or buy them individually, but I would say run them concurrently 6:02 Speaker 0: the whole time consistently. 6:05 Speaker 0: He said 3 months, I'm assuming, cause he's probably heard us talk about a lot of the times we're going to say run these most peptides within a 90 day period, let them do what they're supposed to do. 6:15 Speaker 0: IGF-1LR3 6:16 Speaker 0: is a powerful 1. So that's why we've suggested 4 to 6 weeks in that. And you pull it out, you have so many secretagogues that you can replace it with. You said Tesamorelin, that's 1 of my favorites by far. So there's just so many of those secretagogues when you pull out the IGF-one, you can replace them easily. Yeah. Yeah, IGF-one is good as run. I mean, hell, you can even do Tesamorelin in the background, really. Absolutely. But it's kind of like a, yeah, 4 to 6 weeks cycle, go hard on it. And then give yourself a break and 6:45 Speaker 1: just continue running Tesamorelin 6:48 Speaker 1: or HGH in the background. Absolutely. 6:51 Speaker 0: Wanna take this 1? Sure. 6:53 Speaker 1: My girlfriend started going through 6:56 Speaker 1: menopause and I increased her in. Okay. 6:59 Speaker 1: And I needed to increase her the libido and your experience is PT-one hundred 41 help with the 7:05 Speaker 0: dryness. 7:06 Speaker 1: Don't know. Yep. 7:10 Speaker 0: I would say so. It 7:12 Speaker 0: makes, it's going to make her 7:14 Speaker 0: hornier. I mean, I speak with my experiences for my wife. It does, it works. We've used it multiple times. So yeah, if she's gonna get a little bit more hornier, I would imagine that the dryness goes away, right? Matter. Yeah, 7:26 Speaker 0: And I have heard, 7:29 Speaker 0: that, 7:30 Speaker 0: absolutely. 7:31 Speaker 0: Yes, 7:32 Speaker 0: both of them increase. 7:34 Speaker 0: Gentlemen, 7:37 Speaker 0: just want to say what you're doing is absolutely amazing. And we appreciate it by so many of us. I recently went to a clinic 7:44 Speaker 0: to get my hormones checked and my total testosterone 7:47 Speaker 0: came back at 6 0 5 and my free testosterone at 8. Big difference. 7:52 Speaker 0: Doctor prescribed Enclomiphene 7:54 Speaker 0: and told me I should get on CJC-twelve 7:57 Speaker 0: 95 and Ipamorelin. 7:58 Speaker 0: I'm 42 and I'm very active and I'm looking to lean out a bit and add muscle. Diet is good and my other hormones came back in normal ranges. Any suggestions? Thank you and God bless. 8:10 Speaker 0: You think both? 8:12 Speaker 1: Yep. 8:15 Speaker 1: Doctor's not wrong. I think that you 8:18 Speaker 1: are 42. 8:20 Speaker 1: I mean, well, personally, 8:21 Speaker 1: and I do make this choice. I take actual testosterone. 8:24 Speaker 1: It's going to be more effective, 8:27 Speaker 1: than in clomiphene, 8:28 Speaker 1: But if you do not want to do that, and I understand a lot of reasons that somebody would not wanna do that, I think your best bet is to take Enclomiphene. There's a lot of evidence that is saying it works, dude. And I know, I know people who have had got this test 8:41 Speaker 1: taken around of Enclomiphene and 8:44 Speaker 1: have increased their testosterone. I was actually amazed when I 1st came out hearing that stuff from home. I don't, 8:50 Speaker 1: but it works. 8:51 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work as good as testosterone. And again, like 6 50, you know, or 6 0 5 generally thinking the general 9:01 Speaker 1: like male who's 19 is 9:03 Speaker 1: going to have between like 1209 9:06 Speaker 1: hundred as their nanograms per deciliter as their testosterone score. 9:13 Speaker 1: I generally try to keep mine up to about 900 or so, right? As long as you're managing your estrogen. 9:19 Speaker 1: And 9:21 Speaker 1: I guess we worry about long term fertility issues. If you are doing, you know, doing testosterone a little bit too early, but at 42, I don't know if you're trying to have any more kids. That's really a big reason. A lot of these like horror stories are 9:33 Speaker 1: our bodybuilders who are taking a gram of tests steroids, 9:38 Speaker 1: right? Every day or not every day, but weekly, you know, for 15 years and eating 8 meals a day and, you know, living at 300 pounds, yeah, that's when we get some problems, some real big problems, but. 9:53 Speaker 1: So that's that I think the CJC-1MRL-1MQ-3.2, 9:57 Speaker 1: I do be aware. We just did a little deep dive on that. That's off. Sometimes people can develop an allergic reaction to the CJC. 10:05 Speaker 1: So if that happens, 10:08 Speaker 1: like you're not dying. 10:10 Speaker 0: But 10:11 Speaker 1: yeah, you may want to go switch to something else, but that, that those, CGC-8.0 10:16 Speaker 1: not really going to help the testosterone like symptoms, you know, that's- I'm assuming he said that the doctor said that for the lean muscle. Yeah. And yeah, that's a strong secretagogue 10:25 Speaker 1: and it will help, especially if your testosterone is right and you are active and you're lifting weights and you're eating right. 10:35 Speaker 1: IGF-one is an awesome 1. Peptide building muscles, probably the like, 10:39 Speaker 1: by far the best building muscle. 10:45 Speaker 0: Yeah. 10:46 Speaker 0: That's it. Can make a case. I mean, if I was gonna, I'll always just put myself in your position. I'm 42. I have 605. 10:52 Speaker 0: It's a matter of opinion, man. If you're trying to hold out for a while to not get on testosterone replacement for whatever reason that's between you, 11:00 Speaker 0: that's between you. For me personally, I would go on testosterone replacement. I've never had a problem with it. I plan on beaming on it forever, so I don't care about that type of stuff. 11:09 Speaker 0: And like Will said, I like to be, I like to be a little bit higher, man. 11:13 Speaker 0: Everything that I do these days, I'm 48 is based upon my energy level, vigor, you know, sex drive is great, but like, that's obvious. Like we want sex drive, but like, I'm talking about how I feel as a man, how I feel when I wake up and I have that vigor and I feel energy. 11:27 Speaker 0: That's where I seek. So I have found my personal sweet spot around a 900 give or take. And I try to stay in that sweet spot personally. So me, I would go a little higher and I would personally go into testosterone replacement. 11:41 Speaker 0: Yeah. 11:42 Speaker 1: My opinion in the pudding is that is what I do. So there's my answer of what I would do. 11:49 Speaker 0: Yeah, but I get it, but I get it. It'll work to answer your question though. Yes. What you're doing will work. Keep working hard, man. Just try it, try, you 11:57 Speaker 1: know, try some other things. 11:59 Speaker 1: Try some other, other, other peptides that see who knows? SS-31MOT 12:03 Speaker 1: C, right? Might just 12:06 Speaker 1: kick ass and give you a, give you some more energy. 12:09 Speaker 1: Cause we never know like what each individual has got some, may have some just little deficiency, 12:15 Speaker 1: right? 12:16 Speaker 1: And you just happen to take 1 of these peptides that solves that deficiency and it may just make a world of change. 12:23 Speaker 0: Good way to put it. All right now. 12:26 Speaker 0: 77 12:27 Speaker 0: year old mother has arthritis and osteoarthritis, 12:32 Speaker 0: arthritis, 12:34 Speaker 0: Okay. All are back and suffers from constant pain. 12:38 Speaker 0: I want to start her on the BPC-157 12:41 Speaker 0: and TB-five hundred blend, 12:43 Speaker 0: but I don't know around 12:45 Speaker 0: where to inject it in the back. Also what's good starting dose for her. 12:50 Speaker 0: I mean, my opinion is going to be, you're going to want to put it right the closest to her pain as you're going to get it as Will says all the time. And the BPC in particular is going to bring the blood there and that's where it's going to heal. So I've had a lot of back problems myself. 13:06 Speaker 0: That's why I like the blend cause the TB is going to run through the body a lot easier that the BPC is going to bring the blood to that injection site. 13:14 Speaker 0: So my opinion is going to be inject that sucker right. As close as your mom could take it to that injury, man. 13:19 Speaker 1: Yes. 13:21 Speaker 1: Right. And, and, but, but there's no real injury. I think it sounds like she just has general arthritis and osteoblig bones, 13:28 Speaker 1: arthritis, 13:31 Speaker 1: Put it where the pain is mostly is 13:34 Speaker 1: not really going to matter. Right. And whatever, if there is a happened to be a certain portion in the back that hurts a little bit more than another. 13:42 Speaker 1: Put it in there and just pull it. Yeah. 13:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, so wherever it's, it's made, it may just be everywhere equally. 13:54 Speaker 1: Then pick 13:55 Speaker 1: a spot that's sub to you that that hurts her the least by putting a needle in there. Right. 14:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 14:04 Speaker 1: And I think, and start her out at, 14:09 Speaker 1: it started started 0.5 of a milligram of each daily. 14:14 Speaker 1: Okay. If you add 2 mils into a 10 mg, 10 mg bottle, 14:19 Speaker 1: injecting 10 units gives you 0.5 of a milligram each. 14:23 Speaker 1: And feel free to bump that thing up to, you know, a full milligram each. 14:28 Speaker 0: Those are very safe peptides, man. And she should do really well. And to be honest with you, in my opinion, that's going to give her a lot of peace, man. I bet you it's going to work well. 14:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 14:37 Speaker 1: And again, do you like, what, w what 14:41 Speaker 1: is causing any pain from arthritis? What's causing the most pain is, is, is swelling, right? Is inflammation. So I'm still going to say Thymosin Alpha. 14:51 Speaker 1: Also institute that, especially she's 77, dude, that she's her immune system is getting compromised. Right? Yeah. 14:58 Speaker 1: I would try that as well. 15:01 Speaker 0: Well, that's come up numerous times just in this conversation. So it's obviously we believe in that. It's 1 of the best peptides, man. I think everybody should be running it. Thymosin Alpha is just an amazing peptide. 15:12 Speaker 0: And again, Hill, 15:14 Speaker 1: that's 31, 15:15 Speaker 1: mixed with, and some MOTS-1C. 15:18 Speaker 1: Helping her, 15:20 Speaker 0: yeah. 15:22 Speaker 1: Helping mitochondria. 15:23 Speaker 1: Okay. Everything is degenerating as we get older. 15:27 Speaker 1: And so who knows? Maybe that maybe kind of 1 source of her issues, 15:33 Speaker 1: is her, you know, mitochondrial 15:37 Speaker 1: degeneration. 15:38 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. And that might just make her feel a whole ton better 15:42 Speaker 1: in other places. 15:44 Speaker 0: Yeah. If she has a problem with the needles at 1st, which many do, my old man won't even do it. But you know, if you're starting her off slow, yeah. Start with the BPC and the TB-five hundred. I'm assuming she's going to find some peace from that. She's going to see that it works and then she'll start trying some other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And don't, and I wouldn't just get it to do, do, at least a milligram daily. Yeah. 16:06 Speaker 1: It'll help more you do. Honestly, I do a lot more than that. I do a lot more than that. 16:10 Speaker 1: The more you do, it helps. Right? It's just a matter of your wallet at that point. That 16:17 Speaker 0: stuff works. 16:18 Speaker 0: Super clean pepatide. Give her a happy life as she gets older. 16:23 Speaker 0: You 16:24 Speaker 0: want to take this 1? I 16:25 Speaker 1: use the blue goddess on my face. Oh, that's GHK- 16:28 Speaker 1: CU plus SNAP-eight, 16:31 Speaker 1: serum, 16:32 Speaker 1: on my face and I got a weird headache for 2 days. I used to get chronic headaches. That kind of went away after using peptides. I did use a derma roller, which has like more micro needles. 16:44 Speaker 1: Well, cause a little, 16:46 Speaker 1: tiny little punctures, put the serum on top. The serum will soak in better. So I'm not sure if maybe the headache goes from the copper. 16:54 Speaker 1: So after that, I started to only use it with, out the Derma roller. Is it normal to get a headache? Could it be the copper? 17:02 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to keep using it. 17:05 Speaker 0: I'm going to say, I mean, if I'm going jump in there, I'm going to say, it's just going be a matter of an opinion on it because we're all science projects and we're all different. Could it be? Sure. Do I think it is personally? 17:16 Speaker 0: How I would run this is I would run it for 2 weeks, doing it with using the derma roller thing, and then do it for 2 weeks, see if you keep a headache and then do it for 2 weeks without it. And if you don't have a headache in those 2 weeks, you're doing your own science project. Then it might be that my opinion is it's not that it's just 1 of those things where you get some headaches, man. It 17:35 Speaker 1: could be some other like environmental factor who knows. 17:39 Speaker 1: Could be like, like weird stuff that, you know, it could be the trauma, 17:43 Speaker 1: of those tiny little punctures, right? Your body is not really liking that. And, and you're, you get chronic headaches and that's your body's reaction to when it is stressed out a little bit. Right. It gets, gets stressed and scared. 17:55 Speaker 1: And it could be, yeah, maybe that copper is soaking in too much. 17:59 Speaker 1: I also maybe would do 0.333 experiment and pull both of them out completely. 18:04 Speaker 1: If you still have headaches with just putting it on, pull it out completely and see if they go away. Yeah. But it should, I've never heard 18:12 Speaker 1: about it. Headaches with copper in particular, not that I haven't. Well, you can, you can overdo it with copper, right? We can, but that 18:20 Speaker 0: it would take a lot more than that. Yeah, definitely a lot more than that. And then here's the thing, man, if you're gonna, if you're gonna, I mean, peptides aren't cheap man in this face serum, I know what you're talking about. It's not cheap. 18:29 Speaker 0: You want to maximize it in the way to properly do it as that derma roller because the GHK-two for to get serum in, you do want to have those little punctures and it's going to do it better. You're not daily. You want to generally run that about 3 times a week. So, but if you do it, you know, you want to try to do it properly. So you do want to get to the bottom of it because if it's not that and you're buying the serum, then do it properly. 18:52 Speaker 1: 1 other add on to that. If you, if anybody out there wants to get a tattoo and thinks it's a good idea and decides in a sick of tattoos 19:01 Speaker 1: hurting so bad. So you use some numbing cream and thought like, dude, this, we know that when you put numbing cream on, it works better if you put it on a little bit after the skin has been punctured. So it gets into the bloodstream. If you think that running a dermal roller 1st over where you're going to get tattooed, then applying the numbing cream and then waiting and then getting tattoos is a good idea. It's not a good idea. 19:22 Speaker 1: Hurts It like hell. It basically, you just pretty much tattooed yourself and now you're just getting tattooed on top of that. 19:28 Speaker 1: Like it, oh my God. It just feels like you've been tattooed for an hour and then you just let's tattoo on top of that 1. 19:35 Speaker 0: I 19:37 Speaker 1: did it. Yeah. Don't do that. 19:39 Speaker 0: He speaks with experience. 19:41 Speaker 1: From his pain. Bad idea. It sounded like a good idea and logic, but no, it didn't work. There you go. Worked like that. 19:50 Speaker 1: All right. You wanna take this 1? Yeah, sure. So what's up Warriors? I was listening to your NAD plus podcast and I heard Mr. Haas say that, okay, 1000 mg is considered a cycle if you're going to a wellness medical facility and getting an IV and they administer an AD plus, 20:06 Speaker 1: over several hours. My question is if I finish a 1000 mg bottle over 20:13 Speaker 1: a month time, will that be the same 20:16 Speaker 1: as the cycle 20:17 Speaker 1: And I should consider taking 2 months off and restart. 20:21 Speaker 1: Thank you for your answer. Good luck, JD, with your surgery. Appreciate you. I 20:27 Speaker 1: do think that it 20:29 Speaker 1: will be the same. 20:31 Speaker 1: That is a matter of opinion. I think that some people 20:35 Speaker 1: do it honestly, like, so I've been re I've been reading up and done a lot of more research on NAD and have, 20:43 Speaker 1: there is a limit like most things to what our body can actually 20:47 Speaker 1: handle and 20:48 Speaker 1: make use of all at once. Right? And I suppose my, 20:54 Speaker 1: my best research recently is telling me that we can't really 21:00 Speaker 1: just blast yourself with that IV of, you know, in a wellness clinic. I'm not saying you're doing it. I I'd made the reference because I know that lots of clinics do that. 21:09 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the best use of it. I do now, in my opinion is revised a bit. I think that maybe 25 mg of NAD sub Q 3 times a week is about all that our body can really handle. Okay. It's like, you know, for a common vitamin C, they sell 2000 mg vitamin Cs, right? Well, we know that your body just can't deal. Can't, can't take all that's pointless. We're taking about 4 times too much. 21:35 Speaker 1: And, 21:36 Speaker 1: then what your daughter does is just pee it out. And then if you do that so often, 21:41 Speaker 1: all of that excess that is getting filtered out, right? Not everything can get filtered out, right? A little residue stays behind in your kidneys and your liver, right? It says, and then over time, that's where people can develop a kidney stone, right? Have this garbage just kind of accumulate. 21:56 Speaker 1: And you don't want any of this excess crap in your body. So, so overkill, 22:00 Speaker 1: not a great idea. 22:02 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is your thousand milligrams over a month. 22:06 Speaker 1: That might even be a little much. I'd maybe slow down a little bit, but then again, but man, I don't know. Everybody's different. I know, I know people who are telling me that they do 100 mg a day of NAD, same Q and 22:18 Speaker 1: think it, man, they 22:20 Speaker 1: swear by it. So dude, 22:23 Speaker 0: it's really subjective. 22:24 Speaker 0: Of a matter of opinion. And we've been ponged around on NAD in particular, our protocols that we suggest quite a bit, because we continue to read and we continue to try and we continue to talk to people. 22:34 Speaker 0: It's kind of a matter of opinion. I've taken it daily and I've done fine with it, but I 22:39 Speaker 0: get what you're saying. I mean, if you just slow down and be logical, 22:43 Speaker 0: your body can only take in so much of anything, right? Even protein, 22:47 Speaker 0: it's only like going to use a certain amount. So if you use that type of logic, I like that approach 3 days a week plus 22:53 Speaker 0: NAD is not 1 of the cheaper peptides. 22:56 Speaker 0: So if you're going to use it, you know, you can use it and you can last longer. If you do it that way, you're going to still get rad benefits because NAD is a great peptide. So I like that. I like that answer, man. 23:09 Speaker 1: Okay. I'll read it. Oh, okay. 23:11 Speaker 1: I've been, I've been looking online and I see CJC-1295DAC 23:16 Speaker 1: and without DAC prices relatively the same. What's the difference in your opinion? What works better? Okay. So difference is, 23:26 Speaker 1: with DAC. 23:28 Speaker 1: It makes the CJC's 23:30 Speaker 1: active 0.5 life a lot longer. Right? 23:33 Speaker 1: If you, so you don't need to. So it basically gives you a longer 23:39 Speaker 1: sustained, 23:40 Speaker 1: growth hormone release. 23:43 Speaker 1: Okay. 23:45 Speaker 1: With DAC or without, excuse me, that is with DAC without DAC makes it a shorter, a shorter acting 23:52 Speaker 1: 0.5 life. Therefore you need to use it, do it more often, Daily versus the other 1. Heck, once a week, twice a week. 23:59 Speaker 1: But the, 24:01 Speaker 1: DAC, my, my opinion is that 1 is better. The without DAC, the shorter release. 24:06 Speaker 1: Yes. You need to inject it more often, but it's now then gives you 24:12 Speaker 1: smaller 24:13 Speaker 1: pulses of growth hormone, which is what our body actually does. 24:17 Speaker 1: Okay. And, 24:19 Speaker 1: that is then the safer 24:22 Speaker 1: option 24:22 Speaker 1: and is still very effective. 24:26 Speaker 1: Long term just prolonged growth hormone release. They're saying there is, there's a lot of potential complications with that. Right. Especially with that peptide. Yeah, exactly. Especially with that peptide. So yeah. 24:40 Speaker 1: And that's not natural. It can over flood you where it can lead to insulin issues. It can lead to, especially 24:46 Speaker 1: like, 24:49 Speaker 1: water, 24:50 Speaker 1: water retention. 24:52 Speaker 1: You know, and that can happen even with the, without DAC, but if you're getting any excess water retention, then lower your dose and 24:59 Speaker 0: can we drop it down then slowly titrate back up? 25:04 Speaker 0: I would say no doc. 25:06 Speaker 0: Greed. Final answer. Me too. 25:09 Speaker 0: There it is. Agreed. 25:11 Speaker 1: I'm looking to improve my sleep. My day starts at 04:30AM. 25:15 Speaker 1: I get to the gym about 05:30. I get to the gym about 05:30PM. 25:19 Speaker 1: I have to get out of the gym by 8PM 25:22 Speaker 1: so I can dinner by 08:30 and then I have to fast for 90 minutes so I can take my Tesamorelin. Unfortunately, there's only 1 day in the week where I can actually sleep 8 hours, but since my body is used to waking up at 04:30AM, 25:35 Speaker 1: I never get to sleep in. Hopefully I'm not throwing away my money on Tesamorelin since I'm not sleeping more than 5 hours. My question is, will DSIP work 25:43 Speaker 1: for me? Does it work immediately or is it a long term play? 25:48 Speaker 0: All right. Cool. Good question. It's 25:51 Speaker 0: a long workout, man. 05:30, you gotta be out there by 8 man. You're lifting heavy. What are you lifting? What are you doing? 25:57 Speaker 0: I'd cut that down a little bit. 2.5 hours of workout. That's a lot. 26:01 Speaker 1: Agreed. 26:02 Speaker 0: Yeah. 26:03 Speaker 1: Worked 26:05 Speaker 1: out 26:06 Speaker 0: like 0.5 hour. I work out hard, man, but I work out for give or take about an hour. You do work out about 0.5 hour. You're in and out. So you've always been like that. I'm about an hour guy and 26:15 Speaker 0: I get in there, left heavy and I get out. So each zone though, man. Can you do you? Hey man, I mean, again, like, dude, that could be, that's like the highlight of your day. That could be the highlight of your You're doing your day, You bro. What are you trying to do? 26:27 Speaker 0: Good, you know? Yeah. 26:29 Speaker 0: DSIP. That's a good 1 because Will and I were actually going through this beforehand 26:33 Speaker 0: and we have different opinions just simply because we try it, man. I sleep like shit. I don't know why it is. I just for years and years. So I've obviously ran the DSIP and, 26:43 Speaker 0: and it just doesn't, it didn't do it for me, but I will tell you, I've talked with countless people that love it. You get into a REM sleep and you get into a REM sleep quickly. So my answer to this question, my brother would be, you're not going to know until you try it. You could be like me and it won't work, or you could be like most people and you will fall into that REM sleep and you can take advantage of those 5 hours. Well, 27:06 Speaker 0: so yeah, you're not going to know until you just try it brother. Just try it, you know, 27:11 Speaker 0: that's just the way it's going to be for anything. You know what mean? Yeah. Okay. 27:15 Speaker 0: My 27:16 Speaker 1: answers are that, yeah, we tell you, Hey, do things in a fast, like doing these peptides, they will work better in a fasted state, man. You don't always need this. You don't need to be about 27:25 Speaker 1: the 90 minutes, you know? 27:28 Speaker 1: Go. Yeah, 27:30 Speaker 1: there'll be so strict, but like everybody, 27:32 Speaker 1: if that works for you and that's not just like killing your schedule and if you can do that, great. The longer you're fasted, 27:38 Speaker 1: but, but even 60 minutes, 45 minutes, it might work relatively the same. 27:45 Speaker 1: So there's that DSIP dude. I really do like it and I know too. So, but it's not something that, 27:51 Speaker 1: it's not going to just make you like drool on yourself and fall over face 1st in bed, which is great, especially for you who doesn't get 8 hours of sleep because you don't want to be drowsy in the morning. 28:02 Speaker 1: I definitely notice it because, 28:05 Speaker 1: and I just get regardless it's, I think it's perfect for you, dude. Like regardless of how many hours of sleep you get, you'll get more restful sleep. So if you're a person who doesn't get to have all 8 hours, shit, you need to maximize your 5. 28:19 Speaker 1: And it's going to put you in the, that like, you know, the Delta sleep inducing peptide, it's going put you in the Delta, 28:24 Speaker 1: sleep section, which is our restful and our re regenerative 28:28 Speaker 1: sleep. 28:29 Speaker 1: So do it. 28:31 Speaker 1: I 28:32 Speaker 1: put in, I do a decent amount of it, but to each his own, I 28:38 Speaker 1: try and do it like right before bed and I can go up to maybe 15 units of it. And I say that if it's a 5 mg bottle, 28:47 Speaker 1: I'm adding 28:49 Speaker 1: 2 mils in it and then doing 15 units 28:53 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Don't, I can't do the math real quick, but, 28:57 Speaker 1: do it. It works pretty immediately. Like if you're pretty, I'm sensitive. Just know like last night, dude, I woke up like exhausted, even though I went to sleep 29:06 Speaker 1: at 29:06 Speaker 1: early for me at 11:30PM 29:10 Speaker 1: and I was up at 06:30. 29:12 Speaker 1: That's actually really early for me, but I was exhausted this morning. Partly because I did my legs yesterday, man. As I get older, dude, when I work out my legs, it just crushes me the next day because my body is now, you know, using a whole lot of energy today to rebuild those muscles. The biggest muscle in your body, but it's using a ton of energy, burning a ton of calories, 29:33 Speaker 1: just rebuilding 29:34 Speaker 1: all of that muscle. 29:35 Speaker 1: And I'm a bit older nowadays, but 29:38 Speaker 0: I would do it. And again, it circles back around to that, you know, everybody's different and what are your objectives? Your objectives might be very different than our objectives. I mean, 2.5 hours of working out in my opinion is a little excessive. I don't think you need that much personally. 29:53 Speaker 0: I would cut that down, cut down and give yourself another extra hour. I think the extra hour of sleep would be better than the extra hour of the gym. A 100% 30:00 Speaker 1: that's your goal of I'll 30:03 Speaker 0: just try it, man. 30:04 Speaker 0: I've been on Reta for 5 months and I love all the benefits except losing food noise. Never had noise to begin with. 30:13 Speaker 0: And the slowing of the GI tract. Are there peptides that can mimic the insulin, 30:18 Speaker 0: weight loss, fatty liver, 30:20 Speaker 0: and cardiac effects, as well as the RET or without those side effects. The main reason I started was 30:26 Speaker 0: weight loss, but found it does do much for my body and I feel great on it with 2 exceptions. 30:32 Speaker 0: Thank you. That's an interesting question. So 30:36 Speaker 1: essentially he's saying, I would like to take Reta, 30:39 Speaker 1: but I want all of the other good stuff, except for 30:43 Speaker 1: the main things that everybody else takes Reta for, 30:47 Speaker 1: which are, 30:48 Speaker 1: which are appetite 30:50 Speaker 1: redone. Let's oversimplify. He just knows he wants to take Reta without the appetite reduction and without, 30:56 Speaker 1: getting feeling full faster. 30:59 Speaker 1: Because the beauty, I mean, okay. Retas is closest thing is to a magic pill that we have nowadays. It's 31:05 Speaker 1: pretty nice. I 31:07 Speaker 1: had a friend text me the other day yesterday and 31:11 Speaker 1: he's like, dude, effective 31:13 Speaker 1: is an understatement. 31:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, stories cat like, right? Like COVID-nineteen. Yeah. And, but like, it's actually like doing, it's like good for you in all of these other places that you said now. So is there a peptides that you can take that will help with all those other benefits, but just not give you? Yeah, yeah. But you're gonna need to take 1 x 1 x 1, right? AOD, 31:35 Speaker 0: you can definitely get there, but it's going to take multiple 31:39 Speaker 0: hepatitis to achieve. I mean, I guess it's a matter of opinion, man. Retta is like we just said, it is a scientific breakthrough, I mean, I don't know why you would not want that part of the food thing. I mean, for me, my experience with it is I've had, I have a big appetite with Retta. It just get full quick. I get hungry, but man, I start eating and I just get full quick. And for me that works well. Yeah. Because it's a matter of opinion, man. And I get it, dude. Like I take like 5, I take, take a tiny dose of Retta because it's good for me. And I liked the way it makes me feel and not because I want to lose weight, not. And then I have testosterone. I got plenty of appetite, dude. I can eat. 32:15 Speaker 1: I guess I don't, it doesn't make me really like ice cream as much as I know that I like ice cream. It's 32:21 Speaker 1: kind of disappointing at times, but, 32:23 Speaker 1: man, especially for the brain, like, dude, I, I, 32:27 Speaker 1: my brain just is firing all day. 32:31 Speaker 1: So I don't really have good, you know, SS-31. 32:35 Speaker 1: For, for cardiac health, 5 amino AOD for weight loss, 32:41 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin 32:41 Speaker 1: for, 32:43 Speaker 1: like, 32:46 Speaker 1: visceral fat, fatty liver. 32:49 Speaker 1: And yeah, you can take all of those. 32:52 Speaker 1: They may not even work as good. Right? There's also some SARMs that 32:56 Speaker 1: do a little bit of the same, 32:58 Speaker 1: let's see, what is it? S R 9009 33:01 Speaker 1: Stenabolic 33:02 Speaker 1: does some of that. 33:05 Speaker 1: There are some of these it's actually really good for you in small doses, 33:09 Speaker 1: but 33:11 Speaker 1: yeah, 33:11 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sorry to drink more water, get more hungry. 33:14 Speaker 0: Maybe take less, man. I don't know how much you're taking, but like, take, try to try to go down. I mean, you can, I I've I've gone, 33:22 Speaker 0: you know, Mig and then that I didn't need that? And I went down to 0.5 a MIG just Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and I didn't notice any different than a milligram personally. And like, 33:31 Speaker 0: it goes a long way, man. I can't see it will or I are taking it to lose weight. It gets contingent upon your objectives. We're taking it for, 33:39 Speaker 0: you know, to stay lean and to the brain focus. 33:42 Speaker 0: There's just so many other benefits besides weight loss that man, like we've said, I'll be redundant. It is a scientific breakthrough, man. It's the best peptide in my opinion, pound for pound. Yeah, it's not perfect. Nothing's perfect. 33:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. All 33:57 Speaker 1: right. Take us home, man. Last question. All right. I heard in your podcast, you should take GHRP and a GHRH. 34:04 Speaker 1: So growth hormone releasing peptide 34:06 Speaker 1: plus a growth hormone releasing hormone 34:09 Speaker 1: together. 34:10 Speaker 1: I'm currently taking Tesamorelin, 34:12 Speaker 1: 20 units, 1 mg. I will likely incorporate Ipamorelin. 34:16 Speaker 1: The blend costs more than the individual bottles, 34:19 Speaker 1: so I'll be buying Ipamorelin 34:20 Speaker 1: by itself. 34:22 Speaker 1: My question is in your experience, should I stagger the dosage like 20 34:28 Speaker 1: units of Tesamorelin to 10 units of Ipamorelin or should I just keep them both at 20 units, 34:33 Speaker 1: 20 units, which is $1,000,000 an 34:35 Speaker 1: question. It is. 34:37 Speaker 1: I think that you, I think you, I think that there's nothing I would do. 1 mg, 1 mg, 20 minutes, 20 units. 34:44 Speaker 0: And I'm not sure. The cost being different though. 34:47 Speaker 0: Personally. Yeah. 34:49 Speaker 1: I'd kind of double check some costs myself and I don't often 34:53 Speaker 1: time Tesamorelin, 34:54 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin blend is 5 mg and 5 mg of them. I 35:00 Speaker 1: know of a 35:03 Speaker 1: price of that's 149. 35:05 Speaker 1: So 2 of those is 300. I also know that there's Tesamorelin. 35:11 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin is 35:13 Speaker 1: 150 for 10 mg. 35:18 Speaker 1: I just, I would check that math again is basically without being too specific, because I can't really be that be specific for you. I'll check your math again 35:27 Speaker 0: to actually see if that is cheaper. Yeah. And find the cheaper route for sure. But in terms of the cheaper route, I'd 35:35 Speaker 0: run a pound for pound, man. Yeah. I mean, you could, you could, 35:38 Speaker 0: I personally like Tesamorelin 35:41 Speaker 0: better, you know, than the Ipamorelin, but you run them in a blend for sure. And then I'll throw an HGH in the morning, bro. Like, I know we say this and I say it, I'll just speak for myself. I won't talk for Will, TRT 35:51 Speaker 0: and HGH, in my opinion, just those 2 together are a staple in my stack. They will be there. 2, I use of HGH 36:00 Speaker 0: man as a low dose and you, it's a long play. So like, you won't notice it for 6 months, but once you hit stride in it, then you can start adding different secreted goggs at night, Ipamorelin 36:11 Speaker 0: test them around and just play around with it. But the HGH man, 36:15 Speaker 0: just try that. I don't know. It's my opinion. 36:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. And, 36:20 Speaker 1: do the cheaper 1. We may reach out to you. I don't know. Let's, 36:25 Speaker 0: do the cheaper 1. Always. 36:28 Speaker 0: Those are man. Those are interesting questions, man. It's been a, it's been great. And, for whoever 36:33 Speaker 0: reached out and said, you know, thank you for my surgery. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to be going into surgery, manana, looking forward to getting out of this back pain once and for all, 36:42 Speaker 0: and looking forward to it. So appreciate that. But other than that, man, anything else? 36:47 Speaker 1: I got nothing, dude. Good luck. 36:49 Speaker 0: All right, my friends. Well, we will, see you next week on the Peptide of the Week. 36:55 Speaker 0: Take care.