Peptide Q&A #49 – TRT MCT vs Seed Oil Carriers, Fertility Protocols, MOTS-C Allergy & Gut Healing Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-49-trt-mct-vs-seed-oil-carriers-fertility-protocols-mots-c-allergy-g/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. 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I'm here. Busy. I'm busy. I'm this is an overwhelming week for me. Was thinking about that last night. I got a busy freaking 1:24 Speaker 1: week. 1:26 Speaker 2: Almost overwhelming. You have a lot of talking this week. 1:29 Speaker 1: That's what I love. 1:31 Speaker 2: I'm 1:32 Speaker 2: definitely overwhelmed, but 1:34 Speaker 2: I live like that. 1:37 Speaker 1: A 100% overwhelmed at all times. Yes, for sure. We have a few cool stuff coming out. We looked at the website yesterday, our new website and that's dope. That's awesome. Bulls put a freaking lot of work into this. 1:50 Speaker 1: It's going be accomplished when that's done. It will be, yes. 1:53 Speaker 2: When it's done. 1:55 Speaker 2: It should be very soon. Any day. 1:58 Speaker 2: I already, 2:01 Speaker 2: Throw some more threats this morning. So 2:04 Speaker 1: It looks good, dude. That's the funny thing about Will and I, which you haven't figured out for you longtime listeners, you maybe have how different we are in regards to our personalities. Will will look 2:15 Speaker 1: at a label and he'll design it. He'll like spend hours like getting it exact and I'd be like, looks fine to me. 2:24 Speaker 1: I was So 2:25 Speaker 1: in Cabo, our producer who we love so much and she always brings us tea and coffee, we love the hell out of her. She's awesome. There's Brandy behind the screen right there. 2:34 Speaker 1: But she gave me a little surprise and if you can see behind me, 2:38 Speaker 1: she 2:39 Speaker 1: did me up and got some new stuff in the back. She wanted to change it up. It looks amazing. 2:45 Speaker 1: And 2:46 Speaker 2: Will's like, what about me? Yeah. Now I'm jealous. It looks so good. Yeah. What the hell? And 2:51 Speaker 1: it's, that's why I love you, man. That's why I love you, but we got good stuff coming, man. We were just talking before we started filming about 2:58 Speaker 1: our trip to Prague. 2:59 Speaker 1: What do you ever think different business would be flying out to When 3:03 Speaker 1: we 1st sat down, do you remember? We had thought what if that started happening if we'd like fly out to China or Thailand or something, you know, because a couple of people we had talked to Mhmm. Did that. We were like, was freaking cool. Absolutely. It's pretty dope. Always thought that that, but now that there's no need to go to China because 3:20 Speaker 2: we don't do any business with China I know. Anymore. 3:23 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Which is cool. 3:25 Speaker 2: Times are changing. Times are changing, and and we'd hopefully are kind of leading the pack doing that because, 3:32 Speaker 2: I mean, a, like, well, business is business, but still if given a choice and a little bit less 3:38 Speaker 2: positive for us, if we can bring money and keep money in America, that's 3:43 Speaker 2: way better. And yes, the decision is at a detriment to us 3:49 Speaker 2: financially, 3:50 Speaker 2: but it's still the right move. 3:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. To keep money here, 3:56 Speaker 2: to keep supporting 3:57 Speaker 2: like business here in America and, 4:01 Speaker 2: and to just get better quality. Yeah. 4:05 Speaker 1: And hence the flags all over our warehouse. Hence the flags. After 4:09 Speaker 1: 4th of July. How was how was 4th? Did you? I mean, I was with you and we, 4:14 Speaker 2: we have a friend who's crazy with fireworks. So they spent like $10 on fireworks. Good. It was What normally would have taken 6, I mean, it would take 6 hours to light off fireworks individually, but we have a friend who 4:27 Speaker 2: I think his next career move should be get out of the ironworkers union and, like, start apprenticing at these, like, real shows Yeah. At rigging the fireworks. So, like, this time you saw him, but he had 4:40 Speaker 2: he had like 6 pieces of plywood bigger than this table with 4:44 Speaker 2: different different like cakes of mortars and different mortars, but he bought all the wicks, all the wick wick connectors, 4:52 Speaker 2: and rigged everything together. 4:54 Speaker 2: So then they would just bring out this board, 4:57 Speaker 2: light it once, and they'd all and everything worked perfectly. It was insane. And it was about, I don't know, 15 minutes per board. Yeah. But they got done with all those fireworks in like an hour and 0.5. Yeah, it was a lot. Scared the living shit out of my 2 year old. Like 5:12 Speaker 1: I got some pictures of him because we had his little headphones on and like whenever those sockets popped, he'd go, Hey, run away. And I was like, he's such a little lover boy, you know? And I'd go in there and he was scared, but like, we're always so intrigued by what we're scared by. Like, I'm scared to death of sharks, but like, I'd always want shark week and he'd be looking out the window just wishing 5:32 Speaker 1: I could go out there, but, it was fun. And then, and then they had 5:36 Speaker 2: this, 5:38 Speaker 2: basically, handheld Gatling gun, right, with the barrel would spin and and handheld, 5:43 Speaker 2: and it would just shoot, 5:45 Speaker 2: Roman candles 5:47 Speaker 2: every time as it spinning. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Dude, like a 100 shots. Dedication right there. 5:52 Speaker 2: Dedication. They definitely do that every year. And, you know, he's out there with his 5:57 Speaker 2: kid, 5:58 Speaker 2: his like 6 year old 6:00 Speaker 2: lighting and stuff, but did his kid, like our friend is just like kind of a board just fixes. He can fix everything. 6:07 Speaker 2: And his kid too, his kid's 2 years younger than river and river can't figure out how to pull the, make the little, little party poppers, just pull a string. Yeah. 6:16 Speaker 2: Pop. And Williams, 2 years younger than him, they named him after me. 6:21 Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, here, give it to me. See, you wrap your you wrap your 0.25 around these 2 fingers, right? Grip it right there and pull and whoever could not figure that out. But like the kid He's a little badass. Yeah, he's a badass. He'll fix everything. Was he close? 6:33 Speaker 2: Was my necklace broke? I just fixed it. 6:35 Speaker 1: Comes over my house from time to time to fix his shit because I 6:38 Speaker 1: don't know if it's, it is handed down, 6:41 Speaker 1: lack of from my father because my father didn't fix anything. So he obviously didn't teach me to fix anything. That's just the way it was. But some men just know how to fix everything. You're very 6:52 Speaker 1: handy. Yeah. So I can fix most everything. You were not here on Saturday and they were doing the wall. And like, I was like, 6:59 Speaker 1: what are you guys gonna do with it? You know, I was a manpower. I hope to move it, but I'm like, I don't even know what came in handy and they said that there was no chance in hell they were moving this Yeah. Thing without 7:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like they thought I was gonna leave them. No, dude. I'll help you do what I can do. 7:12 Speaker 2: That's about 7:14 Speaker 2: it. That's right. But that was helpful because it was stuck on a little nail. So 7:19 Speaker 2: anyway, the 4th was great. We went down and took our golf cart down and visited, 7:23 Speaker 2: or saw the parade, 7:25 Speaker 2: the Huntington beach parade. That 7:27 Speaker 2: was fun. Rivers met up with a bunch of his little baseball friends. And so we just kind of rode the bikes and golf carts around during the day and then went over to her 7:36 Speaker 2: friend's house and enjoyed the evening and cleaned up. Will say for our friends are 7:41 Speaker 2: pretty good group of, 7:43 Speaker 2: helpers at the end. That's 7:45 Speaker 2: a mess. All 7:47 Speaker 2: of those fireworks, but like 7:49 Speaker 2: everybody there at this house was just done. And that's how it's been every year. Like 30 people in there. Everybody is just not really standing around, but working hard to clean up everything. Friends are all sober. Them? Yes. It is, probably. Yeah. It is a 100%. 8:02 Speaker 2: We're all sober. We have some more energy at the end of the night, aren't just, like, drunk and saying, eff up. We're gone. I was in the gym on the 5th with, you know, a bunch of dudes and we were all sober. I'm like, 8:13 Speaker 1: it's only sober people are in here. It's good stuff. We also got some cool stuff 8:19 Speaker 1: coming. We have Josh Holyfield flying into town as we speak. I know he's a 8:25 Speaker 1: guy that people like, so it's going to be an honor to sit with him and ask him questions. Know, we all kind of know who each other is out there. As 8:33 Speaker 1: this channel grows and this and that, it's cool to sit down with just people of like mind, you know, we all 8:40 Speaker 1: don't know it all, and we all can learn from each other, as I'm sure we all do. So it's just so fun to sit down with people. Mean, I'm sure everybody enjoyed the podcast with Trevor. That guy was brilliant. 8:50 Speaker 1: But man, it's so rad to just talk to people. I enjoy it, man. I just enjoy it. So he's gonna be cool. I think all this stuff is gonna be done. Think the more that I've 8:58 Speaker 2: read up a little bit more on him, right, the more he's done, he's also doing a whole bunch of things and has done a whole Absolutely. Bunch of 9:06 Speaker 2: What would you say? He was like special forces in the Marine Corps? Written books. 9:11 Speaker 2: Written 2 books. 9:12 Speaker 2: I went and looked at his like website for peptide protocols 9:16 Speaker 2: and 9:17 Speaker 2: for like planning your own protocols, I should say like a peptide tracker. That 9:23 Speaker 2: thing's pretty in-depth. 9:26 Speaker 2: Yes, he does a whole bunch. So I guess we'll let him tell everybody. 9:31 Speaker 1: Everyday 2 podcast, kind of similar to Trevor. I'm going do mine 1st, which is going to focus on the business side and just what he does. And then we're going to get him obviously on the Peptide podcast and just really dig into 9:42 Speaker 1: all the stuff we talk about here. So we're going to hopefully give you 2 viewpoints of who the man is. I 9:48 Speaker 1: enjoy it. I think it's cool. Then lastly, we have Mr. Jay Campbell flying into town in August who hit us up and he's going be in town. So he's like, I want come on live. 9:58 Speaker 1: Come on down, bro. And so he'll be live on, think it was, I think it's the 6th, 10:02 Speaker 1: August 6. So that's coming up and it'll be good to actually have him live. Yes. 10:07 Speaker 1: That'll be cool. Hope you always get a lowdown on what's coming down the pike Jay. 10:11 Speaker 2: Yep. 10:12 Speaker 1: Other than that, we're leaving in 2 weeks, but let's get us kicked off, dude. Do us the honors. Going to Q and A. So question 1, I have a 10:21 Speaker 2: 16 year old, 10:23 Speaker 2: have a 16 year old, 10:25 Speaker 2: 6 foot 1 and 100 kg. 10:28 Speaker 2: I pulled him out of school and he was doing a tiling apprenticeship. 10:32 Speaker 2: Kid weight trains focuses on protein, ready to buy his 1st house. Anyway, 10:37 Speaker 2: 1.5 10:38 Speaker 2: years ago, we had a holiday from hell in Bali. He got extremely unwell. 10:43 Speaker 2: We had a whole year of repeat antibiotics. 10:46 Speaker 2: He has low vitamin C levels of like 10. 10:50 Speaker 2: We then seen a naturopath that has helped, but I've spent about $3,000 on vitamin C drips and zinc supplements. He is suffering boils. 11:00 Speaker 2: Mostly he does improve for a bit after an infusion, but they come back and they spread. 11:05 Speaker 2: Damn. Could I try a peptide? I was thinking KPV, 11:08 Speaker 2: Thymosin or BPC. 11:10 Speaker 2: Let's think of him as an adult. 3 11:13 Speaker 2: I just can see him suffering. I just can't see him suffering like this. Love your show so much. Thank you for your podcast guys. Awesome. That's right. I'm gonna take that. Yeah, go ahead. It's I mean, I think that that 11:25 Speaker 1: sucks for your son. I mean, geez, that's horrible, but you obviously 11:30 Speaker 1: ate something, right? So 11:32 Speaker 1: it sounds like an immune issue, so you can't go wrong with what you just said, right? What 11:39 Speaker 1: I would do is without a doubt, TA-1KP-1BB- 11:43 Speaker 1: And 11:44 Speaker 1: I personally, 11:46 Speaker 1: personally, if it was my boy, I would stop the antibiotics. They are just destroying his gut. 11:52 Speaker 1: And it's just, I think that's where it stems from. 11:55 Speaker 1: So that's personally what I would do. You do you, you're the dad, so you make that decision yourself. 12:01 Speaker 1: But I think that those are awesome. And, I would do the KPV, 12:05 Speaker 1: BPC, TA-one injectables 12:07 Speaker 1: and 12:08 Speaker 1: the BPC KBV orals. I would just blast that. 12:12 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've done a stool test. If not, you need to do a stool test and 12:17 Speaker 1: that should answer, I think, a lot of the problems. 12:20 Speaker 1: I'm thinking you haven't done that. Maybe that's why you don't kind of know what the issue is, but I 12:27 Speaker 1: think you stopped antibiotics, man. I think it's probably throwing fuel on that fire. I've had gut problems for a long time and I wish to God I didn't have, didn't eat those antibiotics like I did. I think that was I think that was the culprit. 12:39 Speaker 2: What do you got? So, I don't know. I mean, 12:43 Speaker 2: I think that there are times where you need to kind of maybe actually go see like an disease doctor, 12:50 Speaker 2: right, and 12:52 Speaker 2: get like fecal workup. I don't know. Maybe you've already done this and you're past that point. But, 12:59 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not doctors. Think that you can't 1st of all, on those things like KPV, Thymosin Alpha, BPC, hell, try them. Yeah. And you're gonna like be bad. Got nothing. You really don't have anything to lose. They like can't be bad if they miraculously heal them. That's amazing. Good. 13:13 Speaker 2: Great. 13:14 Speaker 2: But still, but if they don't, 13:17 Speaker 2: you know, again, we don't really know enough, plus we're not doctors, but we don't really know enough in this picture to give you a 13:23 Speaker 2: and then we would need to research. 13:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's pretty vague in the question, but more data. 13:28 Speaker 1: But 13:29 Speaker 1: the obvious is- It gonna 13:32 Speaker 2: hurt, but like I would probably go see an actual, and I agree with the antibiotics, it's probably not the right thing to do, but I'd go see an infectious disease doctor. 13:42 Speaker 2: And I'd read up a little bit on this and like some of these things point to staph or MRSA. That 13:49 Speaker 2: would be terrible. 13:51 Speaker 1: Usually if it's left untreated though, that stuff gets bad, real bad. And it's been a year and 0.5. I got staff from, I got MRSA- Yeah. In the hospital. No, wasn't MRSA the bad 1? MRSA is the worst. Okay, so I got staff and it wasn't like, got MRSA, but I had back surgery. I was in the hospital for a few days and I got it from the dang hospital. 14:10 Speaker 1: My back swelled up. It was, hurt so bad I thought I was gonna die. It was, and I 14:16 Speaker 1: honestly think some of the problems I've had with my gut are all the way back to that. I had a, I have a PICC line in my arm for a, 14:24 Speaker 1: was it a month? It was a long time and they would just inject me for like an hour every day to get rid of this stuff. So that stuff's pretty gnarly, man. So, yeah, it sounds to me like you need to dig a little deeper. 14:38 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the peptides, which we love, but it might be a little bit above that pay grade of a peptide. You might need to really dig in to see what the hell it is. Yeah. Cause you gotta know what it is to attack it. You know, obviously it's in the gut, but there's all kinds of stuff that can be going on in that gut. It sounds like there's a naturopath with vitamin C like cool that that seems to be kind of fixing symptoms, 14:59 Speaker 2: but not actually fixing the root problem. As soon as you do, you do that, the treatment, it gets a little bit better. And then as soon as you stop whack, we're back to bat. So all that's doing is helping some of the symptoms and not actually looking for the root cause. So good luck though. That's terrible, poor kid. Keep us posted. We wanna see what he is. Yeah. Alright. 15:16 Speaker 1: New listener, love the content. 45 year old male, five'nine, 300 pounds. I just started Retta a week and 0.5 ago. Obviously, I'm overweight and I just started working out again. Good for you. 15:28 Speaker 1: I hurt my knee back in November and it's still bothering me. I also had arthritis 15:33 Speaker 1: all over. I was diagnosed in my early twenties 15:37 Speaker 1: with that, so I haven't been able to train consistently over or very hard. My testosterone is low. PCP says not to start TRT because weight loss may correct it. I'm going to a urologist to get my levels up, hopefully. Are there any peptides that you recommend for me additionally, 15:57 Speaker 1: testing that you are additional testing that you would recommend? Thanks for all you do. 16:02 Speaker 2: What do got? Yeah, so 1st of all, okay, the losing 16:06 Speaker 2: weight may correct the testosterone problem. 16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, 16:11 Speaker 2: in a while it might, you know. 16:15 Speaker 2: The problem is that 16:17 Speaker 2: the more overweight you are, right, the more estrogen your body makes and the less testosterone it makes. Right? It is basically, 16:24 Speaker 2: it's a cycle that just builds up snowballs 16:28 Speaker 2: either way. 16:29 Speaker 2: I don't see a problem. How old are 45. Yeah. Right? You're like, 16:35 Speaker 2: I was wondering what you're gonna say on this 1. Dude, I don't know. I would I would opt for the testosterone, obviously. Like, I'd because I do it. So obviously that's what I would do. It will make, I mean, 16:46 Speaker 2: it'll fix the testosterone thing. You'll lose weight. Faster. I mean, way faster. It will help immediately 16:53 Speaker 2: to lose all of that weight. And dude, again, 16:56 Speaker 2: just because you start testosterone does not mean you are like, Oh, I got to do it for the rest of my life no matter what. In fact, like, look at me, like I've been off tests. I guess I'm taking, I'm literally taking 17:07 Speaker 2: 25 17:08 Speaker 2: mg 17:09 Speaker 2: a week maybe, like maybe. 17:12 Speaker 2: But I weaned down and I have been taking it for shoot, 8 years maybe before that. And so, 17:19 Speaker 2: and I'm still alive walking around talking and you just weaned down correctly. Like, dude, you could 17:25 Speaker 2: do some tests, get your weight down. If you really, really, really want to get back, get off of it, you can do that. Sure. 17:30 Speaker 2: In the meantime, let's say you don't want to start doing the test. I think Kisspeptin 17:34 Speaker 2: is a peptide that will, that will actually help try to increase your actual natural testosterone levels. 17:42 Speaker 2: Again, we don't think it really works 17:44 Speaker 2: if you are on 17:46 Speaker 2: test, 17:47 Speaker 2: although Trevor thinks differently. Did you notice that last time when we talked to Trevor anyway, 17:52 Speaker 2: you're, you know, for, for you, just a typical, full 17:56 Speaker 2: blood test panel, we can send you that. Like I have it all written down instead of reading off 18:02 Speaker 2: 60 different items right now. We 18:04 Speaker 2: can, 18:05 Speaker 2: we can just, we can send you what we suggest all the panels that your doctor should be checking off. 18:11 Speaker 1: But he didn't. I bet he didn't. 18:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, 18:15 Speaker 2: I bet he did not. I know tons of doctors that will just be like, Oh, okay, let's test your, let's test your total testosterone. 18:22 Speaker 2: That's good. 18:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18:25 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be a matter of an opinion. I'm just going to be blunt as always. 18:30 Speaker 1: Just why would you wait? Why would you wait? 18:33 Speaker 1: When you have low testosterone, 18:34 Speaker 1: losing weight is a bitch. It's a bitch. It's not saying it can't be done, but like, dude, it's like you're swimming against a river. Like you'll make a little headway if you just kick ass, but man, you're gonna be tired. If you just take a little bit of testosterone, man, your whole life will change. You'll 18:50 Speaker 1: drop weight faster, your sex drive will go up, your sleep will be better, your focus will be better, you'll be happier. I could go on and on and on and on and on. So just in regards to that, why the hell would you not want to? Yeah, you might bring it up as you lose weight. 19:05 Speaker 1: Like, 19:07 Speaker 1: or just like, let's just get it done. Like, don't you want to feel great? Don't you want to feel good? 19:11 Speaker 1: So that's just me. 19:13 Speaker 1: And then the obvious, you're gonna, you need to like make sure that you're lifting weights 19:17 Speaker 1: at least 4 days a week. You need to make sure eating right, eat a shitload of protein, a lot of protein, a protein, a lot of protein, get your sleep. Those are the obvious. We're going to talk about those probably today. As always, 19:29 Speaker 1: get moving, walk a lot. In regards to peptides, 19:33 Speaker 1: you're 45 man, if you're going to choose, well, if you choose not to do the TRT 19:37 Speaker 1: either way, I would say take some HGH, at least throw some 2 I use of HGH in there. And for like energy, 19:44 Speaker 1: I mean, could do Tesamorelin, 19:46 Speaker 1: Tesa Ipah, you can do both HGH and Tessa, 19:50 Speaker 1: know, cause you need to, you need to drop some weight. NAD-thirty 19:54 Speaker 1: 1, I'd throw those in there for some cellular energy. 19:57 Speaker 1: And then in about 3 weeks to a month, throw in some MOTS-1C. 20:01 Speaker 1: So that will help with some of the energy stuff. 20:05 Speaker 1: A brother, I would just get on TRT. 20:08 Speaker 1: Just get after it. You feel so good. 3 weeks, you'll feel great. Yeah. All right. Next, number 3. 20:13 Speaker 2: What would you recommend? I'm 38 and down to 137 20:17 Speaker 2: pounds. I'm 38 years old, down to 137 20:21 Speaker 2: pounds. I have celiac disease, 20:24 Speaker 2: interstitial cystitis. 20:26 Speaker 2: And 20:28 Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, dyssynergic 20:30 Speaker 2: defecation, 20:31 Speaker 2: like dysentery, 20:33 Speaker 2: I'm guessing worked long hours in the ER, 20:36 Speaker 2: strength trained 4 to 5 20:38 Speaker 2: times a week, 20:40 Speaker 2: a mom of 3 kids and a wife. My goal are more energy, stronger workouts, lose belly fat, sleep better, manage my focus ADHD, 20:48 Speaker 2: but trying to come off of Adderall 20:49 Speaker 2: because I don't like how it makes me feel. I eat clean with very little added sugar. I drink a minimum of a 120 to a 140. 20:57 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 21:00 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. 21:06 Speaker 0: And this space starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, 21:13 Speaker 0: so every step is strong, balanced, 21:16 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. 21:20 Speaker 0: Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 21:22 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 21:28 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doomscrolling? 21:32 Speaker 1: Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from 1 of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. 21:53 Speaker 2: Ounces of water daily, and I eat at least 140 grams of protein per day. I'm currently running SS-31MOTS-5Mina 22:02 Speaker 2: 1 MQ AOD in the AM and PM. I'm on Thymosin Alpha, just started. CJC Ipamorelin, Clo will 22:10 Speaker 2: be starting NAD back in another week or 2 with glutathione. 22:14 Speaker 2: I know I need to cycle off of some of what I'm on for energy, but what can I replace it with? 22:22 Speaker 2: Anything you would add? 22:24 Speaker 2: Let me take that 1. Yeah, go ahead. Then we'll So 22:28 Speaker 1: 1st, I'm going to attack the Adderall thing. It just wouldn't be me if I didn't. I'm just not a fan of it. I'm sure you all know it now. I'm sober. 22:35 Speaker 1: And it's crazy when we're taking a substance, 22:39 Speaker 1: how we think we need that substance until you actually get off that substance and you realize I didn't need that substance. 22:44 Speaker 1: Know that that's where 22:46 Speaker 1: you're probably at right now, but you don't need the Adderall. Adderall is like almost identical to speed. If you like, look at it, you know, you probably know that. So I'm gonna say get off that and you might even need help getting off of it, like meetings and such, 23:00 Speaker 1: just whatever, however you need to get off it, you're going to feel a lot better. 23:04 Speaker 1: You can take a modafinil. 23:06 Speaker 1: It's not going to be Adderall, but it will give you some of that focus. You know, I'm not an Adderall guy, but modafinil is great. So you can kind of have some of that and 23:16 Speaker 1: kind of, I'm sounds to me, I don't know what you do if you're a doctor or nurse or whatnot, but you're in an ER, so it's a stressful as hell. 23:24 Speaker 1: Your sleep probably sucks. 23:26 Speaker 1: It sounds to me like you haven't had your hormones checked because I think you would have talked about that. So you could have low testosterone, your hormones could be out of whack. You could need some progesterone. I don't know. You got to have your run your panel. 23:39 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I think that your problem might be just getting those hormones fixed because when you start there, you're going to feel a lot better because you're 38 and like we start 23:50 Speaker 1: thinking that we're supposed to feel like shit at 38 because we're aging, but we're not, you know, until we fix our hormones and Will and I are like broken records, 23:59 Speaker 1: but we talk mainly to men because we're men, but women, you're the same thing. You need to get your hormones and thank God 24:06 Speaker 1: it's coming around where women now are taking testosterone and 24:11 Speaker 1: fixing their hormones because just like men, 24:14 Speaker 1: you will feel like a different gal. You know, like you have a stressful job, so that part's going be what it's going to be. 24:21 Speaker 1: Obviously, you got to work on your sleep and I don't know how to tell you to fix that, but that's highly important and just improve your recovery, but get those hormones checked. 24:30 Speaker 1: And here's some, some other outside, 24:33 Speaker 1: just some typical ones, which has worked for me. Meditation, 24:37 Speaker 1: like grounding, 24:40 Speaker 1: helping other people get the focus off of, you know, like the stuff you're focusing on. That's just helped me. So I got to talk to you about that in regards to peptides, 24:49 Speaker 1: Epitalon, I would start with Epitalon. It's going reset your circadian rhythm. It's going to be really good for oxidated stress. So I would start with that. And then I think the obvious is going be Selank 25:01 Speaker 1: and Cmax because 25:02 Speaker 1: you run a high stress job. So I think that will kind of balance you out well. 25:07 Speaker 1: I'm assuming by what you're taking, you're trying to lose weight. You're taking 5Amino-1MQ 25:12 Speaker 1: and AOD, 25:14 Speaker 1: know, energy for MOTS-1MQ 25:16 Speaker 1: and SS-31but 25:17 Speaker 1: I'm assuming the 5Amino and the AOD you're trying to lose weight or rip up that stomach. 25:23 Speaker 1: So maybe just get to Reta. 25:25 Speaker 1: You know, you can replace those 2 and go right to Reta and that will do a lot for you. So maybe do that. So those 25:32 Speaker 1: are 4 peptides 25:33 Speaker 1: and some other stuff that I think will work well for you, the meditation and stuff. I know it sounds a little woo woo, but until you do it, it's amazing. You know, I never thought I'd meditate, but I do it every day. So works well for me. What do you got, Will? 25:47 Speaker 2: Of all, if I was her and you told me to help somebody, 25:51 Speaker 2: I would be pissed because 25:53 Speaker 2: as a mother of 3, a wife and a full time job working in the ER as a nurse, 25:59 Speaker 2: I feel like she's probably going, dude, off. I help people. That's all I do. Yeah. That's her job. I'm saying like, 26:05 Speaker 1: like paycheck, 26:07 Speaker 1: like do something, you know, with her family and her 3 kids. That's 26:11 Speaker 2: probably her mindset on, on that 1. 26:15 Speaker 2: Try to find some time, I guess 26:17 Speaker 2: I would I would 1st attack the the gut problems, I guess, KPV, BPC oral. 26:23 Speaker 2: With the 26:25 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, with the celiac, I don't know if, you know, your absorption of orals might actually 26:32 Speaker 2: be 26:33 Speaker 2: diminished 26:34 Speaker 2: because of these, the celiac disease 26:37 Speaker 2: and your other gut issues, but I still would try, I still would go with KPV BPC. For energy, Selank, Cmax, 26:45 Speaker 2: Modafinil for sure. To get off the Adderall, like he's right. The, 26:50 Speaker 2: almost like as the detox from the Adderall, probably Modafinil is probably a good choice. Yeah. Replace that, the, the Adderall 26:58 Speaker 2: a bit, you know, at the beginning. Tesofensine 27:02 Speaker 2: is awesome. That gives me energy. I freaking love that stuff. 27:05 Speaker 2: Selax, 27:06 Speaker 2: Selank, Semax, even to B12. Sure. You pro I don't know. My guess is as a, as a nurse, you 27:12 Speaker 2: probably are doing that or have had access, but don't forget that, that actually really helps. So 27:17 Speaker 2: Glutathione, 27:19 Speaker 2: which she's going to do NAD. 27:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. 27:23 Speaker 1: And then everything else JD said, I won't repeat, 27:26 Speaker 1: but I agree with. Yeah. Good stuff. And just to clarify, 27:30 Speaker 1: if that, if it comes off like that, you are a nurse or a doctor, you are helping people, but like, I want to be like, what I mean by that is when I have to sponsor somebody, 27:38 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit with them for an hour and read the book. I'm busy. And then when I do it because I'm not getting paid, I do it just to help somebody. That's what I mean. Yep. Yep. So- Just- And that's good. It really 27:49 Speaker 2: centers you like you would never believe. That's good. I'm just telling you what people, 27:55 Speaker 2: your doctor would you help somebody? 27:58 Speaker 2: That's what probably her initial reaction is. But 28:01 Speaker 1: yeah. That's what I mean. Good luck. Hope that's true. All right. Hey, JD, Will, I've been listening for about 3 months now and I really enjoy the show. I'm a 39 year old male who's down 50 pounds over the last 7 months. Nice. And currently sitting at 195. My current protocol 28:18 Speaker 1: includes 28:19 Speaker 1: Retatrutide 28:20 Speaker 1: at 1.7 28:21 Speaker 1: mg twice 28:23 Speaker 1: weekly, 28:24 Speaker 1: daily TRT 168 28:26 Speaker 1: mg weekly, 28:28 Speaker 1: nightly glow blend, 28:31 Speaker 1: 2 50 micrograms of Kisspeptin, 28:34 Speaker 1: nightly overall. I'm feeling significantly 28:37 Speaker 1: better 28:38 Speaker 1: but 28:39 Speaker 1: but I've been struggling with low energy specifically 28:42 Speaker 1: during training. 28:44 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's the Retatrutide, but my libido has also taken a hit over the last few months. That led me to PT-one hundred 41 a couple of times. It seemed to help, but I experienced a pretty rough hangover type feeling the same day and into the next. Any tips or suggestions? 29:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, true. You know, you might just not be eating enough food. So as far as the workout, 29:09 Speaker 2: oftentimes when people are taking Retta and losing a bunch of pounds, losing a bunch of weight, right? You have to be at a caloric deficit to lose 50 pounds. You know what I'm saying? And so like food is our energy and no wonder that 29:20 Speaker 2: if you're on this journey and this kick of losing 50 pounds, 29:26 Speaker 2: yeah, you're probably low on a little bit low on energy. Right? I don't know what to say other than, I mean, I would actually try taking some IGF-one before your workout and a little bit of carbs right before it. That can absolutely help. Take those carbs and shove them in your muscles, which is where you want that energy. 29:42 Speaker 2: Also, 29:45 Speaker 2: rapid weight loss 29:47 Speaker 2: can hurt a person's testosterone. Absolutely. Right? These big, 29:51 Speaker 2: especially just, yeah, you're 29:54 Speaker 2: not giving your body what it thinks is enough nutrients 29:57 Speaker 2: because it's used to having more nutrients come in and now you're starving it. 30:03 Speaker 2: I think it will bounce back once you kind of 30:06 Speaker 2: once you get to your goal weight, 30:09 Speaker 2: and your body evens out, 30:12 Speaker 2: that test will will 30:13 Speaker 2: rebound your actual, like, sex drive. The sex drive, I have to think just it's either stress induced, right, 30:19 Speaker 2: or it's your natural testosterone production isn't as great. You totally could 30:26 Speaker 2: bump up your test a little bit more. 30:29 Speaker 2: As far as that though, I would just really dial in your eating habits and make sure you're getting like high energy foods. 30:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's about all. I mean, lift weights. Mean, you're already, that sounds like you're lifting weights, right? 30:43 Speaker 1: I don't know. What else you got? Yeah. I mean, diet's key if we eat like crap because Retrutide can allow us to get lazy on diet because you can cheat a little bit and still lose weight, you know? 30:57 Speaker 1: That's how it was for me. You know, don't need to lose weight, but when I started taking Retta, I like got my discipline, it shook my discipline up because I can get away with a lot more and I didn't like it. So that's kind of how it happened for me. So diet, as you said, eat a lot of protein, typical stuff. 31:12 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious, were you curious why he's taking the TRT and the Kisspeptin? 31:15 Speaker 1: Is it fertility? 31:16 Speaker 1: If it's fertility, you want to run it with HCG, 31:20 Speaker 1: it's going to do a lot better for you. I'm assuming that's why he's taking Kisspeptin. I know. I don't really understand why you're taking them both, but you still need to, as Will said, like rapid 31:31 Speaker 1: weight loss can suppress your 31:34 Speaker 1: libido, your testosterone. 31:36 Speaker 1: So that's kind of common. 31:38 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that you're getting the proper things tested and look at the proper hormones, 31:43 Speaker 1: which is like, you know, total tea, free tea, estradiol, 31:46 Speaker 1: SHBG, 31:47 Speaker 1: prolactin, thyroid, 31:49 Speaker 1: every 90 days for a while, because it takes a while, as we say, to find a sweet spot and that might, you feel better, but you might feel better if you take more testosterone and you do need to know what that free testosterone level is. That's very important because if your total test is where it should be, but your free test is low, then you're going to have no energy and no sex drive. So I'm assuming 32:12 Speaker 1: if you looked at your free test, it would be low. That's probably sex drive. So all those things play a role. I would stop the Kisspeptin. I would definitely add in the HCG, 32:22 Speaker 1: especially if you're trying to stay fertile. That will help your balls from shrinking too, which you should do. 32:29 Speaker 1: B-12, 32:31 Speaker 1: NAD, SS-31that's 32:33 Speaker 1: going to help with cellular energy, 32:35 Speaker 1: and then about a month in running the MOTS-C. But NAD and SS-31right 32:39 Speaker 1: now will give you some energy in the B-twelve for sure. 32:42 Speaker 1: And get your numbers ran every 90 days and you need to know your free tea, brother. So let us know if you have you get that back and it's off, shoot us a DM or get in contact with us or ask another question and we'll go from there. Hope that helps. Yeah, as far as we know, right, the Kisspeptin, so Kisspeptin 33:00 Speaker 2: stimulates pituitary to start the cycle from early way upstream to start the cycle of 33:06 Speaker 2: telling your body, which starts up here, 33:09 Speaker 2: to tell your nuts essentially to start making more natural testosterone. 33:13 Speaker 2: So 33:14 Speaker 2: our understanding in the basic scientific understanding is that if you are on TRT, 33:21 Speaker 2: early upstream loop is shut down and not listening to anything. Right? If you, because you have, your body has enough testosterone 33:29 Speaker 2: and 33:30 Speaker 2: it doesn't care. It won't listen to that Kisspeptin. 33:33 Speaker 2: It won't 33:35 Speaker 2: turn on and try to make more. 33:36 Speaker 2: HCG works because it works way downstream. It skips this part and it just goes straight to the source and tells it to go make more. 33:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33:48 Speaker 2: HH HMG, 33:50 Speaker 2: goes straight to the source and does both both the luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating 33:56 Speaker 2: hormone, 33:58 Speaker 2: both testes to make fertility and more testosterone. 34:01 Speaker 1: Did he say his age? Yeah. Alrighty. 34:05 Speaker 2: No age. No age. Give me fertility. Alright, go for it, bud. Hey, guys. Loves the podcast. My question is regarding MOTS Every time I use MOTS C, I get a large itchy lump within 12 hours, 34:15 Speaker 2: and it lasts for 10 to 14 days. So I've tried adding more backwater. 34:19 Speaker 2: I move injection sites, let the peptide warm to room temp and inject slow. Nothing seems to help, so I gave up on that peptide. What might cause this type of reaction to MOTS-c? 34:30 Speaker 1: Thanks. 34:32 Speaker 2: Well, actual, 34:35 Speaker 2: absolute being allergic to it. 34:38 Speaker 2: Our friend Paul is 34:40 Speaker 2: allergic to MOTS-3C, 34:42 Speaker 2: and so that's a thing. 34:45 Speaker 2: It's it's not 1 that usually, 34:48 Speaker 2: you know, 34:49 Speaker 2: causes this, 34:51 Speaker 2: the, 34:53 Speaker 2: whatever the heck the other reaction is called, histamine reaction. Right? And so you 34:59 Speaker 2: might just actually be 35:01 Speaker 1: just allergic to it. Sounds like it. Yeah. It's kind of those things that sucks. Yeah. I can't take CJC. 35:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a good, like, couple days, got a histamine response. I'll never take it again. So it's just 1 of those things you just 35:13 Speaker 2: There's a other ones take NAD and SS-31. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like you've tried everything that you're supposed do, right? Which is like try different, you know, different concentrations, 35:23 Speaker 1: spots 35:25 Speaker 2: to rule out, you know, maybe just 1 time flukes. But if this is just consistent, you probably just can't do MOTS-3C. 35:32 Speaker 2: Cool thing is there's a ton of peptides. Ton of other things to do. There's a lot of other things. Lots of other things to do. 35:38 Speaker 1: Yes, 35:39 Speaker 1: sir. 35:40 Speaker 1: All right. 35:43 Speaker 1: My wife has been 35:45 Speaker 1: having some gut issues for a couple months and recently had stool sample tested 35:49 Speaker 1: and came back on the high end of an IBD. 35:52 Speaker 1: I recently had her start BPC-0R at night, TA-1KBV 35:56 Speaker 1: and GHK- 35:57 Speaker 1: in the mornings. 35:58 Speaker 1: Is this the proper stack? And if so, how much will it help in order to calm down her visits to the restroom? 36:05 Speaker 1: Also, I'm a 55 year old male. I recently started TRT and after my 1st cycle, 36:12 Speaker 1: my total went from 500 to 1,500. 36:15 Speaker 1: I know that is on the high side, but I feel great. Can or will this affect my PSA levels? And is there any concern there? I have recently dropped my dosage down to 10 units, 3 times a week, 100 mg. Thank 36:30 Speaker 1: you for you guys for what you're doing, everything 36:32 Speaker 1: and any suggestions is welcome. 36:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I think that Sofia wife 36:39 Speaker 1: for 36:40 Speaker 1: irritable 36:41 Speaker 1: bowel disorder, 36:43 Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. I guess I'm used to hearing IBS 36:47 Speaker 2: syndrome, 36:48 Speaker 2: but 36:49 Speaker 2: BPC, 36:50 Speaker 2: KPV, 36:52 Speaker 2: Thymosin Alpha, 36:54 Speaker 2: GHK-3CU 36:55 Speaker 2: can't hurt. Yeah. It, I don't know how much it's actually going to help this specific, 37:00 Speaker 2: this problem, but it, but it sure can't hurt. So yeah, dude, I think that that's the right way to go. You know, how much will it help? 37:07 Speaker 2: That's not, I don't know. I don't think that biking, we can really quantify that. It's different in every person 37:14 Speaker 2: and, 37:16 Speaker 2: but try it and it 37:18 Speaker 2: should help. It should absolutely help. Then as far as you go from your, so, 37:23 Speaker 2: you know, you might be even higher than 1,500. You'll hear a lot of people that have their blood tests. Oh, I tested off 1,500 for on a lot of tests. That's the max 37:32 Speaker 2: that the thing goes. 37:34 Speaker 2: And so 37:36 Speaker 2: that's why there's an ordinary, 37:38 Speaker 2: an ordinary amount of people have 1,500 levels because that's just the max on a lot of these tests. But 37:44 Speaker 2: if you feel great, awesome. Yes. They're I can't tell you, like, will it affect my PSA levels? Yes. 37:52 Speaker 2: Your, 37:53 Speaker 2: the more testosterone that we do and the more testosterone that we have in our body, the more DHT 37:59 Speaker 2: that it makes. 38:00 Speaker 2: Right? And 38:02 Speaker 2: that affects 38:04 Speaker 2: your prostate. 38:07 Speaker 2: So you 38:08 Speaker 2: do need to be aware of that. You can pretty much feel when 38:13 Speaker 2: I mean, so you might this might affect your estrogen 38:16 Speaker 2: which, and your DHT. Okay. The estrogen symptoms, if you're getting any of those nipple sensitivity, any extra acne, water, water, 38:24 Speaker 2: you're hanging on some more water, 38:26 Speaker 2: those are high. 38:28 Speaker 2: Are signs of high estrogen 38:31 Speaker 2: potentially taking estrogen blocker, especially if you're this high, you might actually have to see if you're, know, predisposed 38:38 Speaker 2: to that DHT. 38:39 Speaker 2: You will feel if the prostate's swollen, you know, it's like, you'll have to pee frequently. You'll you'll think you have to pee really bad and then not much comes out. 38:50 Speaker 2: Finasteride, 38:51 Speaker 2: dutasteride, 38:53 Speaker 2: those are made 38:54 Speaker 2: to be those are DHT blockers. 38:57 Speaker 2: They usually solve the problem, but they also have some bad side effects. 39:02 Speaker 2: So that's something to be aware of. 39:04 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you but if you feel good, I guess the other thing is like, I don't know if you if you wanna have more kids, you don't really want your testosterone to be that high. 55. 55. You don't really want to have any more kids, then that's okay. As long as it's not causing any other health issues. So monitor that. 39:21 Speaker 2: If you dropped it down to a 100 Migs, 39:24 Speaker 2: 10 units 39:25 Speaker 2: is a 100 Migs, 3 of the Migs a week. I don't know. 39:28 Speaker 2: Or a 100 makes a 100 makes weekly. 39:31 Speaker 2: 100 makes They're just super low. 39:33 Speaker 2: So you could probably find some, I don't know where you I don't know what caused the 1,500, 39:39 Speaker 1: but you might find an equal balance. He didn't say. I wish you would have told us how much you took. Yeah. 39:44 Speaker 1: Because you were here and you took some stuff, so you went way up here and 39:48 Speaker 1: you have to give yourself some time to balance. 39:51 Speaker 1: If it's 3 weeks and just, you know, I would give it a little bit of time. I mean, generally, 39:58 Speaker 1: Will and I have talked about it so much in regards to finding that sweet spot. It's not, it's going to take some time, you know? But the good thing is you feel good. That's awesome. 40:07 Speaker 1: What are your free tests, you know, testosterone? What's that? That's going to help us kind of answer this as well. 40:13 Speaker 1: But 40:14 Speaker 1: you went down. Cool. So now go from there and just every 40:19 Speaker 1: month or so, maybe 2, you're going to have to move that sucker around and it's not a 1 size shoe fits all. You need to figure out where you feel the best. Your numbers are good, where they're not going to be harmful. 40:34 Speaker 1: That's the sweet spot. So that takes some time and you're not going to figure it out in 3 weeks. So 40:40 Speaker 1: there you go on that, my brother. 40:43 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. 40:45 Speaker 2: Okay. 40:46 Speaker 2: Hey, 40:48 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get off some anti anxiety and depression meds. 40:51 Speaker 2: I've been on a couple since about March, so not too long, but I'm going to talk to my psychiatrist 40:57 Speaker 2: about getting off. I've been feeling pretty good. I was wondering if there was a peptide or a stack that would help with anxiety and depression. 41:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I would honestly, I think that 41:07 Speaker 2: Selank is probably the go to for the anxiety portion that help. It's more of a natural, I guess, and angiolytic, which helps 41:16 Speaker 2: your brain calm down. 41:19 Speaker 2: And depression, frankly, it's Semax. They're 41:23 Speaker 2: kind of opposites, right? Semax gets you up, Selank 41:26 Speaker 2: gets you down, but they work very well together. 41:30 Speaker 2: And they don't just cancel each other out, right? You get more of kind of focus, non anxiety, 41:35 Speaker 2: but energy and happiness from both of them. So I would absolutely try those. 41:40 Speaker 2: You know, then there's Tesofensine, 41:41 Speaker 2: which is basically a triple antidepressant. 41:45 Speaker 2: It's a but but 41:48 Speaker 2: it is a lot better than actually taking either 41:51 Speaker 2: any single 1 of them. 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Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, 42:45 Speaker 1: amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. 42:49 Speaker 2: So serotonin reuptake inhibitor, dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and a norepinephrine 42:54 Speaker 2: reuptake inhibitor. So, 42:58 Speaker 2: it will work for depression, but but, you know, it's not a peptide. 43:02 Speaker 2: It is another pill that you're taking. 43:06 Speaker 2: PE 22 28, 43:08 Speaker 2: we'll read into that a bit. Not 43:11 Speaker 2: many people have taken that, but 43:14 Speaker 2: natural kind of well, that's a peptide antidepressant 43:17 Speaker 2: essentially. 43:19 Speaker 1: What else did you? I mean, that was pretty good. I mean, that's pretty much what I would say too. The 43:24 Speaker 1: cool thing is you haven't been on it that long. 43:27 Speaker 1: Obviously, 43:29 Speaker 1: best is to get off that stuff. So that's what you're trying to do. I love it. So all 43:33 Speaker 1: 3 should help. Selank, 43:35 Speaker 1: Semax, run those 2 together. 43:37 Speaker 1: Ortocin, 43:38 Speaker 1: I probably would probably go with that 1st. That should balance you out, give you some energy, 43:44 Speaker 1: some focus. Yeah, absolutely. It will. And 43:47 Speaker 1: to be redundant for a reason, eat right and exercise. You need to get moving and like, let's not forget about the base 43:54 Speaker 1: and 43:55 Speaker 1: focus on that stuff, getting sleep, you know, the typical stuff 43:59 Speaker 1: that you need to do every day to kind of keep your levels. 44:03 Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully get off that, keep us updated, man, and I hope that it goes well for you. I'm sure, you know, you can't abruptly stop. And meditation and help people for sure. 44:13 Speaker 1: Didn't say it. Got yelled at last night. I'm 44:16 Speaker 2: up. All right. 44:17 Speaker 1: Hi guys, love the show. I'm 30 year old recently found out my testosterone levels are quite low. My blood work showed total testosterone 2 35, free 9.6. 44:29 Speaker 1: I've 44:30 Speaker 1: recently started TRT. Was wondering if there are any peptides or other compounds you would recommend that could help me get the most out of my TRT protocol. 44:38 Speaker 1: My 2nd question 44:40 Speaker 1: is about carrier oils. 44:42 Speaker 1: A lot of testosterone available in Australia seems to be seed oils as the carrier of access to a supplier that uses MCT oil for their testosterone cyponate, 44:53 Speaker 1: and it's also significantly 44:54 Speaker 1: cheaper. What are your thoughts on using a product like that instead? Are there any advantages or disadvantages 45:01 Speaker 1: of MCT versus the more common seed oil based carriers when it comes to TOT? Great question. Surprise doesn't come up anymore. Yeah. 45:10 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised that, 45:13 Speaker 2: so MCT oil, especially like the Miglol 45:16 Speaker 2: C8, 45:18 Speaker 2: is, which is the highest, highest grade of 45:21 Speaker 2: carrier oil you can possibly get and definitely have MCT oil. That's my preference. 45:27 Speaker 2: You know, it's way cleaner. You'll notice that it's clear. 45:31 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's 45:32 Speaker 2: gonna be like a almost little, like purple tint tinge to like grapeseed oil for sure. 45:38 Speaker 2: Yellowish tint. I don't know. I don't know what the right color to call it. But 45:42 Speaker 1: basically 45:44 Speaker 2: MCT oil should be very 45:47 Speaker 2: be very watery. Like you'll go 45:50 Speaker 2: it's because and then it will that means it's gonna disperse in your muscles a lot better than just this thick oil. 45:57 Speaker 2: Some people are allergic to certain oils, 46:00 Speaker 2: but I don't think I feel like I think I've read up on this and like there's more potential for allergies to the seed oil than MCT for sure. Sure. 46:09 Speaker 2: I would say that 9 times out of 10 people who know will definitely say, give me the MCT oil for sure. It depends on, you know, and again, and it should be way more expensive. 46:20 Speaker 2: I know for a fact, like I've 46:23 Speaker 2: bought 46:24 Speaker 2: gallon of MCT of the highest grade stuff and it's ordering on $500. 46:30 Speaker 2: So it's not cheap. 46:32 Speaker 2: It's odd that the MCT is cheaper. Could be a function of the grape seed person is just charging too much. I don't know. 46:39 Speaker 1: Or, 46:41 Speaker 2: yeah, I don't know. But I would do, I mean, I'd go with definitely the MCT oil. Ask them if they know what type of MCT oil 46:49 Speaker 2: it is though. 46:52 Speaker 1: We did, if you ever want to join our school, 46:54 Speaker 1: did, I did actually a video on that. We talked about different esters. We talked about different oils. We talked about injecting. 47:02 Speaker 1: There's people that get PIP, which is PIP, which is post injection pain. If you've injected testosterone long enough, you will get it. It sucks. It's that big lump in your butt or your shoulder wherever you inject it. And it's 47:16 Speaker 1: unavoidable, I think, completely. It just happens sometimes. 47:19 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's just how you inject it. Sometimes it's oil. So 47:24 Speaker 1: again, if you do it long enough, you will get it. And it's just 1 of those things that takes a few days to kind of rub out. There's ways around it, is heating up the oil. I do that every time now. Just heat the oil in some hot water for about a minute and it's easier to disperse when you inject it and also 47:43 Speaker 1: very slow. 47:44 Speaker 1: You're like me that I used to always just like, that's 47:47 Speaker 1: not good. Slow, 47:49 Speaker 1: and it kind of disperse, not just blast it. So those are a little, some tricks of the trade when it comes to that stuff. 47:56 Speaker 1: What I have found personally is that our bodies change so much because for the longest time I could not inject 48:03 Speaker 1: to start tosinopropanate. 48:04 Speaker 1: I don't know why I was well up like a son of a bitch. It sucked. 48:09 Speaker 1: Now I can take it. I'm actually, that's what I take now, but I couldn't for a long time. 48:15 Speaker 1: And I 48:16 Speaker 1: started like, I'm saying get allergic to the MCT, but I started getting PIP every time I injected and 48:22 Speaker 1: after figuring it out and even calling a doctor that I know knows what he was talking about, he just said, Yeah, we see that some people with MCT eventually 48:31 Speaker 1: the body just stops wanting it. So it 48:34 Speaker 1: starts that PIP. So all that being said, 48:37 Speaker 1: MCT without a doubt is the cleaner oil. You got to see what your body connects to, 48:42 Speaker 1: but also focus in on injecting properly because that helps as well. In regards to the enhancement 48:50 Speaker 1: of TRT, it really depends on your objectives. 48:53 Speaker 1: Here, Provirin is not, it's not a peptide, it is actually a steroid, but it's a low grade steroid that 49:00 Speaker 1: is amazing. It enhances 49:02 Speaker 1: whatever you take. 49:04 Speaker 1: So that will actually increase your sex drive. It'll release more of your free testosterone, 49:10 Speaker 1: which everybody wants. That's the sex drive, focus, 49:13 Speaker 1: energy. 49:14 Speaker 1: So if that's something that you want to toy around with, it's again, it is a steroid, but it's a really low grade steroid. So, 49:21 Speaker 1: it will enhance that. Some other ideas would be obviously like a Tessa Ipah. It'll like give you some growth hormone. Your body will generate that itself. 49:29 Speaker 1: And if you want to gain a little weight, a little bit of buffness 49:34 Speaker 1: in MK-six 77, 49:36 Speaker 1: it's not a peptide, it's a 49:38 Speaker 1: secreted dog or it's a non peptide secreted dog, 49:42 Speaker 1: it will give you some size and it will enhance that TRT. So you will get a little bit of buffer because you will be hungry and you will eat more. So those are some ideas, 49:51 Speaker 1: research them. 49:52 Speaker 1: Hope that helps. 49:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 49:55 Speaker 2: Who's up? Yeah, I guess I forgot. No, I am. 49:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything you said, dude, Proviron's really great 1, like late in the cycle when your 50:03 Speaker 2: body has kind of built up some SHBG 50:06 Speaker 2: to help tear that down and make your receptors really receptive. 50:10 Speaker 1: Why am I not horny anymore? 50:12 Speaker 2: Yep. Because your natural test is nonexistent. 50:15 Speaker 2: And that's another another 50:16 Speaker 2: argument for also maybe running HCG about 0.75 of the way through the cycle, 50:21 Speaker 2: to just tell them not to kickstart a little bit. 50:24 Speaker 2: Okay. Question 9. I did a 6.5 day fast earlier this year and benefited greatly from it. Lost 14 pounds and I felt absolutely great on ketones. 50:33 Speaker 2: I told myself 6.5 50:34 Speaker 2: fast. Wish. 50:36 Speaker 2: I told myself I would do a 3 day water fast every 0.25 and a 24 hour fast every week. 50:43 Speaker 2: Since going on Retta 4.5 weeks ago, 50:47 Speaker 2: 1, should I fast on Retta? 2, should I be concerned about muscle loss if I do? Much appreciated for y'all. You guys are awesome. I don't know. I mean, JD, you're the fasting, 50:57 Speaker 2: you're the fasting pro, but like shit. Retta 51:01 Speaker 2: is the way to not have to worry as much about muscle loss. 51:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. Because you're taking Retta, it's pushing tons of insulin in you and their insulin 51:09 Speaker 2: is keeping you from going catabolic. 51:12 Speaker 2: So, 51:13 Speaker 2: and it'll make fasting a lot easier. 51:15 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I get that for, I've got it forever. Like you're going to lose all your muscle, like, cause I fast a lot, you know? And I do like you, I do a 72 at least every 0.25 and I do multiple 24 hour fast a week. I had stepped away from that for a little bit and I was unhappy. I gotten back to it. I love it. I love fasting. I love the discipline about it. Sounds like you do too. I love how I feel and that's important for all of us, right? It's not all about what we look like. 51:42 Speaker 1: I don't seem like I lose muscle when I do it. 51:46 Speaker 1: I will tell you when I'm eating carbs and eating more, I do get bigger. Obviously, that's just the obvious, but I 51:53 Speaker 1: don't seem like I lose 51:55 Speaker 1: muscle when I do that stuff. As long as I'm lifting because people will go, do you train when you're fasting? Absolutely, man. 100%. You should be training when you're fasting in my opinion. So 52:04 Speaker 1: as long as you're lifting, 52:06 Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of depends on your objectives. If you want to be those 1 of those really big guys, you're going to need to eat more and have carbs. 52:12 Speaker 1: I don't like to look like that. But to answer your question, no, I don't think that 3 you need to worry about So 1 concern, but is this your 3 day water fast? 52:23 Speaker 1: That can't be good for you. You die from water? Like, we die after No, he's saying water fast is all water. It's all you drink. Oh, okay. 52:33 Speaker 2: And it's a lot of salt water. Die if you don't drink water for 3 days, by the Yeah. You die after 40 days of no food. So water's really, really important. 52:42 Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you. 52:45 Speaker 2: Bucket, you're up. Question 10. Last 1. Alright. 52:48 Speaker 1: Think it's home. Hey guys, love the podcast. I'm 38 years old, former army special operations vet and current LEO. 52:56 Speaker 1: I've gone from 2 85 to 2 45 52:59 Speaker 1: pounds in 6 months while lifting and doing cardio 5 times a week. I plateaued on Tirzepatide and recently switched to Retta. I'm also using Tessa, 53:09 Speaker 1: MOTS-1C, 53:10 Speaker 1: and Clo. My test levels 53:12 Speaker 1: were 189 53:16 Speaker 1: total tests. My free test was 6. Woah. 53:19 Speaker 1: And Klobin only brought me into the high 200s. 53:22 Speaker 1: Man, I was also diagnosed with SIBO and 53:26 Speaker 1: completed my treatment. My wife and I conceived our 1st child naturally roughly 2 years ago and wanted to try for baby number 2 in January. 53:35 Speaker 1: My wife wants me to stop everything September 1. 53:39 Speaker 1: After we conceive, 53:40 Speaker 1: I want to hop back on. 53:42 Speaker 1: Would you prioritize 53:44 Speaker 1: TRT and HCG 53:46 Speaker 1: 1st, 53:47 Speaker 1: then peptides like SS-31MoT 53:49 Speaker 1: C, Tesamorelin, Retatrutide, 53:51 Speaker 1: take a different approach? 53:53 Speaker 1: Goal weight is 2 15 to 2 20. Hopefully 53:57 Speaker 1: I can reach that before September. 53:59 Speaker 1: Thank you both. 54:00 Speaker 2: Damn. 54:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54:04 Speaker 2: So, 54:08 Speaker 2: know, I would do the HCG. 54:10 Speaker 2: I would prioritize HCG right now. Absolutely. You should 54:14 Speaker 2: be taking it right now. Yeah. So I would and I am doing this. So like this is what so I'm taking I am also trying to make a baby soon. HCG, 54:24 Speaker 2: HMMG, 54:27 Speaker 2: and Enclomiphene. 54:29 Speaker 2: Forget the regular 54:30 Speaker 2: Clomid, 54:31 Speaker 2: that stuff's old news and 54:33 Speaker 2: is not nearly as effective as Enclomiphene, 54:36 Speaker 2: but all 3 of those can and should be taken together to be more fertile. Plus, it'll increase your natural testosterone. You'll probably feel a bit better because these are all also the same protocol 54:46 Speaker 2: essentially that somebody should do as a post cycle after coming off of a steroid cycle. So I'd prioritize those, 54:54 Speaker 2: and I would 54:56 Speaker 2: I guess when you do when you can get back on, I would prioritize CRT. 55:01 Speaker 2: Mean, that would be the 1st damn thing I do and it will be 1st thing I do. Then then I wouldn't then I don't know. There's nothing to say like, hey, you gotta start the test 1st and then you can start in the 55:14 Speaker 2: the other peptides. Right? You can 55:17 Speaker 2: start them all if you want. Now everything will work a bit better after your test is 55:23 Speaker 2: optimized. 55:24 Speaker 2: Like, cool. Why don't you prioritize running tests 55:27 Speaker 2: 2 weeks, 55:29 Speaker 2: then start your peptides. 55:31 Speaker 2: They'll work better, 55:33 Speaker 2: if your test is at normal, 55:35 Speaker 2: good, healthy levels. 55:37 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he's on testosterone right now. He's tried Clomiphene. 55:41 Speaker 2: Yep. So, 55:42 Speaker 1: So that's why I would say I would get on HCG, HMGF and Clomiphene right now. Well, she said she wasn't tempted to get off everything, but he's on Clomiphene, so might as well get on ACG too. 55:52 Speaker 1: And again, I mean, we've told you this, so you do you, that's obviously what your wife is going to tell you what to do, but, both my kids were conceived on TRT, 56:01 Speaker 1: and we have had many, many friends that have done that. My deal with my bride was I'm not coming off testosterone because 56:07 Speaker 1: I was running a mortgage company at the time and there was no way that was gonna happen. And with some studying and looking into it, it can be done. And I followed that protocol and I got 2 boys. So 56:19 Speaker 1: you do you, to answer your exact question is absolutely 100% 56:23 Speaker 1: start with TRT, get that stuff rolling, it's oil so it's going to take a little while to build up. I think you can start them both. You know, peptides are just amino acids, so you're injecting hormones and that's going to take a little while for you to hit the amino 56:36 Speaker 1: acids are going to be right away. So it's going to take you a little while to feel better, dude, you know? 56:42 Speaker 1: So 56:43 Speaker 1: I hope you get the baby. I hope it is a healthy 56:47 Speaker 1: boy or girl doesn't matter. And then, when you're at that time, if you have more questions, hit us up and we'll give you an exact protocol if you want. And, 56:56 Speaker 2: thank you for being in the special forces and being a law enforcement officer. 57:00 Speaker 2: We appreciate the work you do 57:03 Speaker 2: to keep us all safe. So 57:05 Speaker 2: that is, 57:07 Speaker 2: yeah, man. Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. 57:10 Speaker 1: Join school. School is doing great. We got a lot of cool stuff going on there. We're adding more and more and more and more all the time. We got a guy that's actually running it full time. 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