Peptide Q&A #4 - Cloudy AOD, HGH Timing & Muscle-Building Stacks Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-4-cloudy-aod-hgh-timing-muscle-building-stacks/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: What's up, my friends? 0:02 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week. This is the Q and A episode, 0:07 Speaker 0: and Will and I are excited to go through these questions with you. 0:12 Speaker 0: As some know, I was in the hospital yesterday. I almost missed this, but 0:16 Speaker 0: you gotta keep good man down, man. So, Will, welcome here to the show, man. How's your day going so far? How was your week? 0:24 Speaker 1: Going great, dude. I'm excited. It's Friday. 0:27 Speaker 1: How are you? Just got out of the just got out of the gym as I normally do in the morning times, and 0:32 Speaker 1: it's been hot. 0:34 Speaker 1: We always have a I like you and I like to keep 0:38 Speaker 1: things icy cold and and 0:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 0:42 Speaker 1: The other ladies don't like that. So it's a thermometer. 0:47 Speaker 0: It's a thermostat fight constantly. So it's funny, a little tough a little funny story that people will, I think, will find some humor in, as Will and I worked in that office by ourselves for a while, and we had it super cold. We were freezing, actually. And then we had hired 2 gals to come in, and they don't like it as cold as Will, and I like it. So there's a battle for 1:08 Speaker 1: the temperature of the office. Yeah. I'll be talking to them or, like, doing them, like, am I sweating? What's happening? What? 1:14 Speaker 0: Nora turns it up to 73. Like, are you kidding me right now? Yeah. 1:18 Speaker 1: They literally buy bring gloves and jackets to to work. 1:23 Speaker 1: Liars, you're faking it. You're faking it, girl. I said, I don't know. Go run around the building or like Yeah. Eat some more food. 1:29 Speaker 1: But that just it's 1:31 Speaker 2: classic. Right? Everybody who 1:33 Speaker 0: knew knows, you know, man. Girls just get cold. Men are cold, men are hot. It is what it is. Right? Yeah. But like always, we just ran through the questions real quick just to see what we got. And man, I love the questions, man. We are enjoying this. We love talking about this stuff. And once again, there are some great 100 questions. So I'll read number 1, Will, and throw it to you. 1:54 Speaker 0: I had bought AOD-nine 1:55 Speaker 0: thousand and 4 and reconstituted 1:58 Speaker 0: it, and for some reason it was cloudy. 2:00 Speaker 0: I still used it and stacked with Tirzepatide about another AOD 9 6 0 4, and it also was cloudy. Is AOD normally cloudy? Good question. Alright. Good question. So AOD 2:11 Speaker 1: is 2:13 Speaker 1: like notoriously 2:14 Speaker 1: hydrophobic. 2:16 Speaker 1: K? Does not mix well with water. 2:19 Speaker 1: Oftentimes, 2:19 Speaker 1: it depends on the quality 2:23 Speaker 1: of your AOD, right, on how much it's gonna gel up or go cloudy, right, or stay so less great less good quality AOD. 2:33 Speaker 1: You're gonna almost need to put in some, like, acidic some AA water 2:37 Speaker 1: along with bacterial static water. You just have to kinda find the right mixture. The AA water will help it actually dissolve into clear water. 2:45 Speaker 1: Really, the stuff that I know and use 2:49 Speaker 1: and I have access to is 2:52 Speaker 1: great quality. You should not need anything besides bacterial static water. But I also saw that they said this is AOD 9 6 0 4 10 ml. They actually they they had to have meant 10 mg. 3:05 Speaker 1: I would even dude, even even great quality 10 mg AOD in a 3 ml vial, you almost can't put enough water in there to mix it perfectly. 3:14 Speaker 1: So the stuff that I am used to, we is only 5 mg and for a reason. Because then you can put enough water in there and it should go perfectly clear like water, but you have to have the good stuff. 3:27 Speaker 1: So I would suggest, you you know, 3:29 Speaker 1: yeah, 5 mg. But also, dude, good good for you just for using it. Right? It's not inherently bad if it's cloudy. Now I wouldn't if it's gelled up in there, I wouldn't suck the gel up. It'll probably clog your needle anyway. 3:43 Speaker 1: Inject it. Yeah. But 3:45 Speaker 1: if it's cloudy, if it pulled up and went in, 3:48 Speaker 1: it worked. That's just the nature of AOD. We would like it to mix better, but that's just how it is. 3:56 Speaker 0: Delicate compound, man. Yeah. 3:58 Speaker 0: So, 4:00 Speaker 0: they're good after- I've got it. It's happened to me numerous times in regards to AOD. I love it. AOD is great. It's 1 of my favorite peptides. 4:08 Speaker 0: And it's just kind of part of the game, man. I personally, so people know, use it cloudy often. It is what it is, man. So works well for me. Yeah. You wanna take number 2? Sure. So I have been using Reta for 2 weeks, 4:21 Speaker 1: and I'm definite and I definitely have an appetite and have been going up and down by 3 pounds every other day. I'm definitely saying more definition in my body. I'm currently taking 10 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday with 1 ml reconstituted. 4:36 Speaker 1: When and how much should 1 increase dosage? 4:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. Love this. I mean, that's gonna be subjective. I mean, 10 units is great if you're doing it. It all depends on what your objective is. Are you trying to lose weight? Are you trying to get cut? Are you trying to get lean? 4:52 Speaker 1: Are you lifting weights? You know, different things because it's going be very different on why it's used. 4:59 Speaker 1: If you're using it because you need to lose 50 pounds, 5:03 Speaker 1: yeah, I would recommend you probably start to go up a bit. If it's somebody like me 5:08 Speaker 1: that uses it just to stay lean and 5:11 Speaker 1: stay kind of ripped, 5:13 Speaker 1: I've gone down in my dosage. Instead of doing 10 units, I've gone down to 5 and don't notice a difference in regards to it not working even as well as the 10 units. 5:23 Speaker 1: So again, that would be my answer. It's subjective to kind of what your goals are. 5:29 Speaker 1: Less is always more, man. If you can get away with any compound, it doesn't matter which 1, 5:34 Speaker 1: you want to do less of that compound and you don't want to go up if you don't have to. So if, again, if you're trying to get lean and that's your objective, I don't even think you need to go up past 10. It's a very, very strong compound. 5:46 Speaker 1: And shoot, man, like you can even try to go down like me if you're just trying to stay lean and play around with it a little bit. 5:54 Speaker 1: Try. 5:55 Speaker 1: I would like to add some things to clarify. So if they put 1 ml of water, then they're definitely talking about a 10 mg 6:02 Speaker 1: bottle. All right? Right. 6:06 Speaker 1: And then they're giving themselves 10 units. Right? So they're giving them so that they're they're giving themselves a dose of 1 mg, 6:13 Speaker 1: okay, 6:14 Speaker 1: 3 times a week, which is 6:17 Speaker 1: basically the starting dose. That's about that's where where everybody should start. That's 3 mg a week. 6:24 Speaker 1: But they did say that I mean, yes, it's subjective. They said that they're 6:28 Speaker 1: gaining 3 pounds, but then losing 3 pounds every other day, but looking leaner. So it is working in those gains. 3 pounds, by the way, is not fat. Okay? It must be something else going on like water if you're actually looking leaner, but the scale essentially isn't changing. 6:46 Speaker 1: If you still have an appetite, that's the beauty of Reti. You still can eat food. It just forces you to 6:51 Speaker 1: control your portion control. Right? You eat less when you do eat. Now, like he said, if you increase that dose, right, your your appetite 7:00 Speaker 1: will go away. So if you wanna lose more weight, 7:04 Speaker 1: I would then bump up. I would bump up slowly 7:07 Speaker 1: only by 5 unit Yeah. Per injection increments. Like Agreed. Hey, try 15 7:13 Speaker 1: units 3 times a week. Right? You can always just go back down. Right? Like, plenty of people 7:20 Speaker 1: will go up, see how you feel. Right? Maybe bump up again and then go, oh, wow. That took away my appetite too much. Right? And then go back down. Go find your sweet spot and for what's working and what your goals are. 7:33 Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, and 1 thing that we've discussed this, but let's tap on it again because when it comes to people that have tried Semaglutide or before they go into Retatrutide, 7:43 Speaker 0: think it doesn't work. The Retatrutide doesn't work because they actually have an appetite. The other 2, they didn't so much. So, they're used to not having an appetite, but that's the beauty of Retatrutide is it gives you you have an appetite, you can enjoy food, like you're not getting sick, 7:58 Speaker 0: you're not having some of the nausea that the other ones have yielded for a lot of people, right? So, 8:03 Speaker 0: that's the beauty of it. You're going to be able to eat, but the beauty of Retatrutide is you just get full quicker, so you enjoy your food, you eat less of it. So you 8:12 Speaker 1: keep your damn muscle on you. That's how you keep muscle, folks, is by eating protein. You need to eat some food, right? Those other ones people say, Hey, these are so bad. They just they kill your muscle. Right? They make your bones weak. They don't do that. That's what malnutrition to starvation does. No food will. If you don't eat, 8:30 Speaker 1: your body will wither away, muscle and fat. Right? 8:34 Speaker 1: And if you really don't eat for a long time, you know, your eyesight gets bad. Your hair starts falling out. Right? This is what happens when we die of starvation slowly. So 8:43 Speaker 1: you need to be eating some food, 8:45 Speaker 1: just portion controlled, and and Retatrut makes 8:49 Speaker 1: is a cheat code. Right? It just lets you it just forces you into that and doing it perfectly. 8:54 Speaker 0: Play around with it. You know, find your sweet spot with any type of compound. It's not 1 size fits all. We are all different human very differently. Our bodies respond. 9:03 Speaker 0: So find what works for you the best and then try to stick there. So what up, JD and Will? Thoughts on taking 2 IUs of HGH in the morning or at night? What is your preference and why? Much appreciated. So, yeah, 9:15 Speaker 0: I know Will and I both love HGH, we've talked about it numerous times, it's going be a staple in my 9:20 Speaker 0: stack always just because I love it. Low dose, in my opinion, I don't think there's much worry that you need to have on human growth hormone. So I take it in the morning, right when I wake up, fasted. 9:31 Speaker 0: And it's simply because 9:32 Speaker 0: if you take it at night, injecting 9:38 Speaker 0: at night is going to tell your body that I'm making it, you don't need to make its own. So that's why you take it in the morning and then you take like a secretagogue 9:46 Speaker 0: at night because the secretagogue is going to help your body to make its own. You don't want to shut your body off from making it. So if you take the HGH at night, you will do that. 9:57 Speaker 0: So that would be my answer. Anything else to add on that, Will? 10:00 Speaker 1: Nope. That's correct 10:02 Speaker 1: and agreed. 10:04 Speaker 1: But in mean, why hey. Why even take stuff at night? Right? Why take Tesamorelin at all? I think the other question does, man, we're starting to realize that even HGH and Tesamorelin really help your sleep, man. It gives you great sleep, 10:14 Speaker 1: and really, really reparative sleep. And, 10:18 Speaker 1: yeah, Tesamorelin in your body won't inhibit your body from from from its bigger pulse in the middle of the night. It will just kind of boost that pulse, Tesamorelin, 10:28 Speaker 1: at night, if taken at night. 10:30 Speaker 2: Any type of secretagogue, but we personally, I think, like Tesamorelin the best. 10:35 Speaker 0: All right. What is the, best peptide stack for building muscle after a cutting phase? 10:41 Speaker 1: So I tell people this often, like, there's peptides that were really not there yet for a 10:49 Speaker 1: grown ass man who already has a very good amount of muscle base, right, 10:55 Speaker 1: to pack on muscle. 10:57 Speaker 1: Sorry, 10:59 Speaker 1: we're just not there yet. There isn't anything that is going to just, like, put 10 pounds of lean muscle on you. Sorry, not gonna happen. No. You still the option is the best things possible is 11:11 Speaker 1: I would probably take, like, CJC Ipamorelin blend. Right? Those are HGH secreted gags, 11:18 Speaker 1: and they the Ipamorelin will actually boost your appetite a little bit. You'll eat a bit more. 11:23 Speaker 1: MK-six 77 is also a 11:27 Speaker 1: secretagog that boosts your ghrelin and makes you hungry. 11:31 Speaker 1: And how you gain weight and build muscle is you you eat more food. But the CJC epamorelin is kinda like it's probably the strongest secretagog. So that's gonna boost your HGH, which is gonna help your recovery. It's boosting your human growth hormone. So you will be able to repair faster and thus build more muscle. Frankly, like, you know, 11:51 Speaker 1: TB-five hundred and BPC-one 11:54 Speaker 1: hundred 57, right, taking them at high doses, that is helping repair 11:58 Speaker 1: tissue. K? You are when we're in the gym and you're trying to you're trying to gain lean muscle, what you're doing is tearing your muscle down. Right? And it's always gonna grow back bigger and stronger than it was before because it's preparing for the trauma 12:12 Speaker 1: that you might do to it again. Right? It wasn't strong enough to do what you asked. So now it's gonna get bigger. And if you have something on board that's gonna help that recovery process, right, it might just grow back a little bit bigger than it would naturally and faster 12:25 Speaker 1: and faster. So you can work out more frequently and maybe get an extra workout in every 2 weeks, and therefore, it's that much more gains, right, over a long period of time. 12:36 Speaker 1: Boom. I don't know. Yeah, there it's just not 12:40 Speaker 1: great. There isn't really any great, great peptides to 12:44 Speaker 0: put a bunch of them up on. Said, man, I mean food. Food, food, food. The late great rich piano, if you wanna get big, you gotta eat big. Right? So you wanna add in food, just add in the right food. Right? Lean proteins and things like that, obviously contingent upon what your diet is and your objective, but eat more food. 13:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 13:02 Speaker 1: Okay. How about this? How long should you run 13:05 Speaker 1: Retatrutide 13:06 Speaker 1: Should you taper off? 13:08 Speaker 2: It's a good 1. 13:10 Speaker 0: I think that's, again, subjective 13:12 Speaker 0: to one's goals to what 13:15 Speaker 0: you want to accomplish. 13:17 Speaker 0: Are you trying to take Retratitude Tide for losing weight? Are you trying to lose 50 pounds? If you're somebody that's trying to if you're kind of a gym rat and you're in shape now and you're just trying to lean out, so it's all kind of subjective to your objectives. 13:32 Speaker 0: I 13:33 Speaker 0: think that personally with my experience with it 13:38 Speaker 0: is to, yeah, I would taper off for a bit, run it for maybe 3 months, 13:42 Speaker 0: and then maybe taper down and then take 13:45 Speaker 0: it some time off. It's just gonna work better when you go back on it, you know? 13:51 Speaker 0: If you're somebody that needs to lose 50 pounds, though, no, I think you can run it for a longer period and you can continue to go up, as Will said previously, in 10 units increments. 14:04 Speaker 0: Just add 10 units, you know, 3 times a week and just gradually go up and take it for a while. So again, it's subjected to or it's contingent upon your objectives and what you're trying to accomplish. 14:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Agreed. Right? The other 2 the the other 2 GLP 14:21 Speaker 1: agonists. Right? People are on those for years. And 14:25 Speaker 1: I guess when it is time but right. He does like you said, just I don't know. We we just you never really wanna be dependent on anything. 14:33 Speaker 1: So 14:34 Speaker 1: if if you could do something without it, like, it's a good idea to, hey. Let's try to get off. Right? The goal there is to get you to your goal. Right? Lose the weight that you wanted. Goal achieved. Then also 14:46 Speaker 1: maintain goal 14:47 Speaker 1: and build habits. Right? And that happens in your brain and body. So get used to eating less. Right? Get used to eating small portions while it's helping you. Then when you feel 14:58 Speaker 1: when it is time, absolutely 15:00 Speaker 1: taper off though. Whenever if you do decide to come off, you better taper off. Right? So go slow tapering off because you do not want your metabolism if depending on how little you're eating, right, our metabolism speeds up or slows down to the amount of food that we eat. Right? You're If eating very little, your metabolism is gonna be pretty slow. If you all of a sudden pull that, have an appetite, and now start eating normally, 15:22 Speaker 1: that's not good. All of the weight, your metabolism slow, all this food, all the weight is gonna come back up. So you want to taper off, start using a little bit of your no skills, right, and 15:32 Speaker 1: learn how to use those habits of small portions. 15:36 Speaker 1: And 15:38 Speaker 1: until you're all the way off and till your metabolism can build back up slowly over time. And then you're off clean and clear with your goals reached, 15:48 Speaker 1: habits made, and- Right. 15:50 Speaker 0: Eat and ride extra rides. Fly on your own. Yeah, good stuff. If you're already taking HGH, 15:57 Speaker 0: what would be the purpose of taking Ipamorelin, 16:00 Speaker 0: Sermorelin stack as well? 16:02 Speaker 0: Is there added benefits or is it pointless since you're already taking HGH? Thank you guys and I appreciate all the knowledge. So So we've kind of already answered this, but 16:12 Speaker 0: yeah, so the HGH you take in the morning, you're taking actually synthetic 16:16 Speaker 0: human growth hormone and adding it into your body, and at night, 16:19 Speaker 0: you're taking the Ipamorelin or Sermorelin or CJC, whatever secretagogue 16:23 Speaker 0: is, because that is helping to tell your body that it wants to generate more of its own 16:30 Speaker 0: human growth hormone. So why would you take them both? That's why. You're getting a double whammy. Yeah, I think we both support it. Yeah. It's a little safer way to have more growth hormone in you. 16:41 Speaker 1: Also, I I think that if it were I would do the HGH in the morning and Tesamorelin at night because Tesamorelin, 16:48 Speaker 1: the unique portion of that is it it actually targets belly fat, right, unlike anything else. 16:55 Speaker 1: And that is unique and awesome. You're not gonna get that with other things, 17:01 Speaker 1: and it will help you sleep 17:03 Speaker 1: really well that night. 17:05 Speaker 2: Well, too, you know, goal thing too is numerous 17:09 Speaker 0: secretagogues 17:10 Speaker 0: and 17:11 Speaker 0: try them all. See, your body's gonna respond maybe a little bit differently. As we've proven 17:16 Speaker 0: in this podcast already, 17:18 Speaker 0: we both like Tesamorelin 17:20 Speaker 0: the best, but there's different ones and try them and see, you know, and see which respond to. 17:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep. Alright. I'll read this 1. 17:29 Speaker 1: Woman 17:30 Speaker 1: oh, 8. Yeah. Woman, 127 17:33 Speaker 1: pounds, taking CJC, Ipamorelin at night to assist with muscle growth. 17:37 Speaker 1: Dosage recommendation, 17:38 Speaker 1: duration breaks, 17:40 Speaker 1: and increase 17:41 Speaker 1: calories during this time to build faster. Thanks so much. 17:45 Speaker 0: Women 127 taking CJC and Ipamorelin at night assist with muscle growth. Dosage recommendation, 17:51 Speaker 0: duration breaks, 17:52 Speaker 0: increase calories during the time to build faster. 17:56 Speaker 0: What do you think, Will? Yeah, absolutely. So, 17:59 Speaker 1: like we said before, there's not great peptides for men build muscle, but these ones will work for women to build muscle. 18:06 Speaker 1: Well. 18:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really well. I think that that is a great choice. 18:11 Speaker 1: You should, 18:14 Speaker 1: I would say, hey, 4 months and then take a couple weeks off 18:17 Speaker 1: and repeat. 18:19 Speaker 1: Maybe you try the Tesamorelin Ipamorelin blend instead of CJC Ipamorelin. CJC Ipamorelin. CJC is just gonna be a little bit 18:27 Speaker 1: stronger 18:28 Speaker 1: output. Okay? 18:30 Speaker 1: HGH, 18:31 Speaker 1: we put it in different impulses throughout the day. 18:34 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin's 18:35 Speaker 1: gonna regulate those pulses a little bit better. CJC might just push just too much, right, on uneven pulses, so that's why it's the strongest. But, 18:45 Speaker 1: dosing for a a woman, you know, 18:49 Speaker 1: I would say that probably 18:54 Speaker 1: a milligram, 18:55 Speaker 1: 0.5 of a milligram to a milligram of each 18:59 Speaker 1: at night. Now 1 thing, women are sensitive to this stuff. If you start to notice that you're retaining water, 19:06 Speaker 1: okay, you're doing too much and it's just too strong. And so what you need so back down on your dose. Don't worry. That water will flush out of you very fast 19:16 Speaker 1: when you back down your dose. So maybe cut it in 0.5 and then slowly titrate yourself back up. 19:24 Speaker 1: And yep, eat more food, eat protein, eat more food and eat protein and you will build muscle faster. 19:30 Speaker 0: Yeah, I mean, my experience with 19:33 Speaker 0: working with my wife on it, 19:36 Speaker 0: I've had her on Tesamorelin now for a bit, and I 19:39 Speaker 0: saw a difference in her immediately. Now, my wife is in good shape already, so it was pretty easy for her, but I saw huge improvements by just 10 units of Tesamorelin 19:50 Speaker 0: at night for her and now she is ripped. 19:53 Speaker 1: She is. 19:55 Speaker 0: She looks I 19:57 Speaker 0: heard you guys mention SNAP - 8 being Botox in a bottle. Do you administer it in the area you want improvement or do you just administer it Sub Q? Great question. Great question. SNAP-eight is 20:12 Speaker 1: what makes Botox Botox, right? 20:15 Speaker 1: But I would not administer it at the place that you need Botox. There's a reason that Botox exists- Right here in your just SNAP-eight. 20:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. So don't inject the SNAP-eight like it is Botox right into your face. There are some other things that are done 20:30 Speaker 1: to SNAP-eight to make it Botox. 20:33 Speaker 1: I would just 20:35 Speaker 1: if this is I don't know. This is for me. I have done this, and I know people who have and have not had any problems, but I do it SubQ. 20:42 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't put it in your face, but what I do is sub q, and it'll help just kinda tighten skin. It should help tighten skin 20:51 Speaker 1: everywhere. 20:53 Speaker 0: Yeah. 20:54 Speaker 0: I agree with that. And then, you know, so if it always again, it continued upon what your objective is, you're looking to get rid of wrinkles and whatnot. I'm assuming by the question, right? So GHK- 21:08 Speaker 0: sub Q, snap a sub and then if you add in what the serum of the GHK- 21:13 Speaker 0: and SNAP-eight that, 21:15 Speaker 0: you know, you do the microdermabasions 21:17 Speaker 0: and you open up your face and rub that in there, it works really well. There's a reason why so many people are wanting that serum because the serum works. 21:24 Speaker 0: You're putting, you know, generating collagen and it helps with wrinkles and whatnot. 21:30 Speaker 0: You know, we have had some people 21:33 Speaker 0: that don't use Botox that love the serum and they're singing as praises 21:37 Speaker 0: because they don't need the Botox 21:53 Speaker 1: that is specifically formulated. 21:55 Speaker 1: It's not just those 2 plus water, 21:58 Speaker 1: by the way. And, 21:59 Speaker 1: yes, apply that stuff directly where you need help. Right? And it works. So make sure it's a a good concentration of both 22:07 Speaker 1: and not the watered down crap that's everywhere on 22:10 Speaker 2: the internet. Yeah, true to that. 22:13 Speaker 0: I heard you guys say it best to take peptides fasted. 22:16 Speaker 0: How long do you have to wait to break fast after administering a peptide? 22:20 Speaker 0: And I read that AOD-nine thousand 604, 22:23 Speaker 0: you should wait an hour since it's burning fat immediately. 22:26 Speaker 0: I'm not a 100% sure if that is accurate. I've heard others say it doesn't matter what you take. Good question, man. I mean, it does matter. It does matter. It's showing more and more that it matters, right? Like if you're in a fasted state, 22:38 Speaker 1: peptides will just crush your blood brain barrier faster and get into you better and start working a lot better. 22:45 Speaker 1: Personal preference, like, dude, the longer you're fasted, the better, I think, know, the better it's gonna work. Right? There are, 22:52 Speaker 1: you know, some diminishing returns on that, you know, 22:55 Speaker 1: 2 hours. I would say that 90 minutes 22:59 Speaker 1: For is plenty. 23:01 Speaker 1: Any more than that, I don't think that you're like, that's a great idea just to fast longer 90 minutes. But any more than 90 minutes isn't really gonna help it 23:09 Speaker 1: get in you better, 23:11 Speaker 1: but 23:12 Speaker 1: definitely in the as far as AOD, yeah, hell yeah, do that in the morning. Do it in the morning. It's it's it is part of the HGH chain and 23:21 Speaker 1: works much better fasted. 23:23 Speaker 0: And that sucker, AOD-nine 23:25 Speaker 0: thousand 604 23:26 Speaker 0: burns 23:27 Speaker 0: fat. 23:28 Speaker 0: Its job is only to burn fat and it does its job well. So if you're somebody that wants to try, wants to burn fat, 23:35 Speaker 0: that is definitely a compound you wanna try. 23:37 Speaker 0: Truth. Yep. 23:39 Speaker 1: Alright. I have a prescription 23:41 Speaker 1: of tirzepatide, 23:43 Speaker 1: also known as like GLP-2T, 23:46 Speaker 1: folks. 23:47 Speaker 1: That has expired. 23:49 Speaker 1: I've been microdosing it and I just saw the date on it and it's a month expired. 23:53 Speaker 1: The doctor said it's okay to 23:56 Speaker 1: continue it, but the efficacy is diminishing. 23:59 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on expiring peptides? What are the lifespan of them and 24:04 Speaker 1: are all the same lifespan or do they vary? Question, 24:08 Speaker 0: man. 24:10 Speaker 0: Yeah, I would say take it, absolutely. 24:12 Speaker 0: You know, I would say like anything, it's gonna lose some of its efficacy 24:16 Speaker 0: over time. 24:19 Speaker 0: But I personally will speak for myself, I would have absolutely no problem taking 24:24 Speaker 2: Doctor. Yeah, agreed. 24:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, great. Good job, doctor. Right. I mean, 24:28 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be bad. It's not gonna go bad and then be 24:32 Speaker 1: actually bad for you. It just may not work as well, which is what efficacy means. 24:38 Speaker 1: Now, as far as general 24:40 Speaker 1: thought, 24:41 Speaker 1: all different peptides have different lifespans, okay? 24:45 Speaker 1: You 24:46 Speaker 1: should be storing your peptides. So, there's 24:49 Speaker 1: a big difference between 24:51 Speaker 1: a peptide reconstituted 24:53 Speaker 1: and 24:54 Speaker 1: not reconstituted, 24:55 Speaker 1: right? If it's in its 24:56 Speaker 1: lyophilized form, 24:58 Speaker 1: it can last a whole lot longer. 25:01 Speaker 1: Still, 25:02 Speaker 1: any long term storage, I would refrigerate it. 25:05 Speaker 1: And even if you don't, I sure as hell don't don't let it be sitting in your hot car. Alright? That will diminish the efficacy 25:13 Speaker 1: even even not reconstituted. 25:15 Speaker 1: They all differ on actual expiration, like shelf life expiration dates. Once you 25:21 Speaker 1: reconstitute 25:22 Speaker 1: it, once you put water in there though, 25:26 Speaker 1: the clock does start ticking and that is different for other 25:30 Speaker 1: different for every peptide, 25:32 Speaker 1: but it must stay refrigerated. 25:34 Speaker 1: Now the truth is I have met a lot of people who've been like, oh, I didn't even know I was supposed to refrigerate it ever. And it still has worked pretty damn good. So I don't know. I guess I was always under the impression like it is just dying and not ever gonna work if it's 25:49 Speaker 1: reconstituted 25:50 Speaker 1: and then you've allowed it to warm up to room temp. But that seems to not be the case, but why let's just keep them working as best possible. 25:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. Keep them if you reconstitute it also, like, when reconstituting 26:02 Speaker 1: folks, it kind of defeats the purpose. If you put room temp water into room temp powder 26:09 Speaker 1: and then go, great. Now I'm gonna refrigerate it. Right? Like, you've just 26:13 Speaker 1: defeated the purpose of it it just warmed up right at the beginning. K? So 26:17 Speaker 1: water powder, cold. Make sure they're cold at the time that you mix them. Put cold water into cold powder and then keep it refrigerated. 26:26 Speaker 1: It'll just keep it more fresh. And I don't have a good answers individually because things vary, but 26:33 Speaker 1: AOD is 1 you better use fast or it will gel up even a 5 mg, even the best quality stuff. Like, don't let that be sitting there longer than 3 weeks or a month. It'll probably start gelling up on you. 26:45 Speaker 1: Just use them. 26:47 Speaker 0: Do them properly the best. You're going to get the best results. Obviously, if you do them properly, I have traveled 26:53 Speaker 0: with 26:53 Speaker 0: peptides out after they've been mixed to Mexico, 26:57 Speaker 0: like for the day and they've been out. I've used them and they did just fine. Don't recommend it, but you know, some things are what it are. You're gonna get the best results when you do things properly. Say this again because a lot of people don't know, you need to add cold water, that water needs to be cold and you add it into the peptide, preferably both cold, but like, don't add warm water into 27:18 Speaker 0: your peptides. 27:19 Speaker 0: That's not a good way to do it. That's wrong. 27:22 Speaker 0: A lot of people don't know that. All right, last 1. Let's see here. 27:26 Speaker 0: For MOTS-3.5: 27:27 Speaker 0: Can you take it like pre workout? Will it kick in 30 minutes after administering it or should I take it in the morning 27:34 Speaker 0: and the energy will last throughout the day? That's a unique question. Great question. 27:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. Some people 27:41 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's in the gym all the time. She's like teaching classes and loves MOTSY and actually takes it pre workout. Just she feels the boost of it though. Although, it's really kinda it's not giving you caffeine brain like bling energy. It's more cellular 27:55 Speaker 1: energy 27:56 Speaker 1: that is 27:57 Speaker 1: so it 27:59 Speaker 1: some people have different effects. Right? But cool. You could take a preworkout. I just wouldn't expect it to work like a preworkout, 28:05 Speaker 1: you know, to just ping Tingling your face. Your brain energy all the way up. 28:10 Speaker 1: I think that I 28:13 Speaker 1: would take it in the morning. If you work out in morning, awesome. Take it in the morning. Right? You just also be try it. Try it. If you work out at noon, I don't know. Good. Try it. See if you like it better taking it 30 minutes before that workout or see if you like your day better if you took it in the morning. 28:28 Speaker 0: It's cellular energy. It's not like coffee energy. It's not like a pre workout energy. I mean, you have a crisp 28:34 Speaker 0: mind, 28:35 Speaker 0: right? You have more like stable energy. That's my experience with MOTS-3C. Think MOTS-3C is amazing. Would I use it for a pre workout? Not necessarily, but like Will said, try it. I would say anything like a L-1Carnitine would be something that people should take as a pre workout if you're looking for pre workout. I think that's a good 1, but just my Yeah, 28:54 Speaker 1: for sure. Just I don't know. I would take it earlier in day. I just wouldn't take MOTS-three right before you go to sleep because you're missing out 29:01 Speaker 1: on several hours of, 29:03 Speaker 1: well, of good fat burning, of good clean 29:06 Speaker 1: energy and productivity 29:08 Speaker 1: as well. 29:09 Speaker 0: There was 1 we skipped over, but we've already answered it through other ones just so you guys know, and I don't think we meant to anyway. But JD, 29:16 Speaker 0: interested to know why we added you added Tesamorelin to your lineup when already on HGH. 29:22 Speaker 0: Is there a benefit with the Tesamorelin? I wanted to make sure we went through each question, 29:26 Speaker 0: but we've already answered that, you know, but I just wanted to read that. I take the HGH in the morning and the Tesamorelin 29:33 Speaker 0: at night for those reasons that we've discussed in that. 29:36 Speaker 0: But great questions, man. I've 29:39 Speaker 0: enjoyed that, man. Enjoy going through these. It seems like a lot of people are enjoying 29:43 Speaker 0: the podcast, so we are appreciative that you're all tuning in each week 29:47 Speaker 0: and keep them coming. So we're gonna be doing this every Friday. 29:51 Speaker 0: As most people know, I will be sometime in the near future probably going under the knife and having a surgery, so we might have to skip 1 or, you know, maybe 2, I don't know, but we'll keep on cracking and keep these things moving, man. We enjoy it just as much as you guys do. I love talking about this stuff. Or I'll pull up my grown up pants and do it solo. 30:10 Speaker 0: Yeah, and then we'll just 30:13 Speaker 0: we'll miss me too much. Yeah. 30:15 Speaker 0: Good stuff, man. We appreciate you. We're gonna get this edited, and we'll get this dropped tomorrow. 30:20 Speaker 0: But anything else, Will? 30:22 Speaker 0: That's it. Have a great weekend. Alright, guys. Enjoy. Have a great week weekend. Be safe.