Peptide Q&A #19 – Stacking Smart, Cycling Safely, and Real-World Protocols Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-19-stacking-smart-cycling-safely-and-real-world-protocols/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the pep Ted of the week podcast. 0:13 Speaker 0: I'm your host, JD Denham. And this time right next to me, as we promised, is sitting my good buddy and my cohost, William T. Haws. What's up, dude? What's up, man? Live and in person. It's exciting to be here. Dude, this is much better. 0:27 Speaker 0: I often think, How the hell did we get here, dude? We're sitting now in our own podcast studio that we built. Put a lot of effort into it. Will, little bit more effort than me. He's more construction. He's a construction guy. Yeah. 0:39 Speaker 0: Yes. 1 of best. Right. A lot of work, a lot of effort, and what a blessing as we are sitting in 0:45 Speaker 0: a studio that is ours. 0:48 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I don't know how the hell we got here. I'm gonna tell you, any emotional This was not the plan at all. 0:53 Speaker 1: No. I just got kind of condimented like, hey. 0:58 Speaker 0: Talk a little bit. And screaming, Will, was kicking and screaming. Even private guys are talking numerous times, but you you have learned to not be so much, and you have a lot of knowledge that you like to share, and it's like that. 1:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the biggest thing, it's like, I've always done it. Like, 1:12 Speaker 1: I don't know. I love I do enjoy helping 1:16 Speaker 1: people and getting the word out about supplements and peptides and talking about this stuff. So 1:21 Speaker 0: if it has to do with technology, then whatever, so be it. Yeah, it's funny. We talked about this numerous times, but if you're new to the show, you've heard this part, Will and I have been friends a long time and 1:30 Speaker 0: it started as just 2 dudes talking about supplements. Hey, man, are you Like, we used to watch the same guys on YouTube that would be, Hey, did you try this? Or have even heard about this? And we'd be like, Oh, yeah. We'd be into the same type of dudes listening to the same type of stuff. 1:44 Speaker 0: It's just, man, here we are, bro. Here we I think, though, 1:47 Speaker 0: a lot of people know this, but if you don't, Will and I are both sober and in sobriety, they talk about promises being fulfilled. 1:54 Speaker 0: I think we're sitting in some promises, man, because we both sat with numerous people 1:59 Speaker 1: trying to help them get sober, and God's been watching, and sometimes he just blesses you. Think that's what we're So sitting right here, what a cool story. Yes, it is. God has given us grace to start with, but then it takes a lot of hard work, right, to meet to meet halfway, right, for promises to occur. Right? Being sober and then putting the work in gives you a chance, 2:21 Speaker 1: and you've gotta take that chance. Absolutely. Then you gotta work hard, and there's been a lot of yeah. Nobody sees 2:28 Speaker 1: the little work, all the small work that it's taken Yeah. To to get here. Right? Everybody sees that meme that 2:34 Speaker 0: the guys sit up on top and, like, you don't see under like, under the hill, like, is, like, all the things, child's error, like, Failures. Blah blah blah. I'm like but they just see him sitting on top of the mountain, but under that is all the failures that Right. Absolutely. That that's a cool little meme. Yeah. It is. But Or the iceberg. Picture of the iceberg. Right? We all know, like, 80% of an iceberg is underwater. So if you see a big iceberg, realize most of that's down below. What you don't see is 2:57 Speaker 0: its base. And that's the story. Yeah. So that's the story. Well, cool, man. Yeah, we're happy to be here. Our 1st time. You know, we still have some stuff, so it's not gonna look like this every time. We still have we're gonna have multiple 3:11 Speaker 0: cameras. We're gonna have some different things. This is just the 1st 1, and we're using our computer to record, but we're gonna have actually, we're still upgrading. It's just gonna take another week or so, give or take. We still have some upgrades, but we decided to do it in here today and just say, hey, let's jump right in. Yep. Here we are. So if you can see us, if you're on a podcast, you can't. But if you're on Spotify or YouTube, 3:31 Speaker 0: here we are. Let's rock and roll, baby. So today is our favorite episode. I know that because we talk about it often. It's a Q and A, 3:39 Speaker 0: and 3:40 Speaker 0: we 3:41 Speaker 0: get to touch base with you, some of you, and they're always good questions. It's cool because a lot of people are listening to some of the things that we say. Could you talk about it? So 3:50 Speaker 1: that's cool, man. I I why why don't you do the honors, man? Yeah. I'll start off. So we don't have a computer this time, so I might be reading some more of these because JD has glasses. Got my glasses. I'm gonna put my glasses on. 4:01 Speaker 1: And we wanna make sure that we're loud enough to talk into the mic so you'll hear us. Okay. So question 1. Hi, JD. I 4:09 Speaker 1: just recently came across your Peptide of the Week podcast, and I have been diving into peptides 4:14 Speaker 1: or diving into your episodes. 4:16 Speaker 1: Yesterday alone, I listened to 4 episodes of your Q and As. Alright. I hope you can give me some direction. Okay. Here we go. I have been on Reta since April and become fascinated with the world of peptides. I have been testing out a variety of additional PEPs since September, 4:31 Speaker 1: but now I wonder if I am taking too many at once. I understand you are supposed to cycle them, 4:37 Speaker 1: and I'm looking for assistance on creating 2 schedules to cycle back and forth. I also believe you said you should cycle all PEPs, but not GLP-three, 4:46 Speaker 1: after 6 to 8 weeks. GLP-three 4:49 Speaker 1: is the same as Retta, folks. Okay? After 6 to 8 weeks. 4:54 Speaker 1: 1st of all, I'll cut her off real quick. I think that most of these you wanna go a bit longer than 8 weeks. I'd say 3 to 4 months 5:02 Speaker 1: is about the span. Most in general, most peptides are gonna be really most effective at. Okay. Here's my current protocol. Reta, 1 mg, 5:11 Speaker 1: 3 times a week. 5 Mina, 1 MQ, 1 mg daily. AOD, 5:16 Speaker 1: 9 6 0 4, 400 micrograms daily. MOTS-one 5:20 Speaker 1: milligram daily. 5:22 Speaker 1: NAD plus, 30 mg, 3 times a week. SS, 30 milli 31, 5:27 Speaker 1: 1 mg daily. Tesamorelin, 5:29 Speaker 1: 1 mg daily. Clo, 5:32 Speaker 1: which is KPV, 5:34 Speaker 1: BPC-one 5:35 Speaker 1: hundred 57, TB-five 5:37 Speaker 1: hundred, and GHK- 5:39 Speaker 1: CU all in 1. K? They are doing 500 micrograms, 5:43 Speaker 1: 5 times a week. Glutathione, 5:45 Speaker 1: 200 mgs, 5:47 Speaker 1: 3 times a week. SLU-three 32, 100 micrograms plus BAM 15, 50 mg. 5:53 Speaker 1: Those are pills when I work out. Occasionally, I take all of the injectables in the morning, fasted, except Tesamorelin, 6:01 Speaker 1: which I take before bed. Okay. Breath. 6:04 Speaker 1: I take all of the injectables in the morning, fasted. Okay. I already said that. 6:09 Speaker 1: I am cycled off of Ipamorelin 6:11 Speaker 1: CJC-twelve 6:12 Speaker 1: 95 at the moment. 6:14 Speaker 1: I also have IGF-1LR-three 6:16 Speaker 1: that I've not tried yet and am looking to add L carnitine, 6:19 Speaker 1: SNAP-eight, 6:20 Speaker 1: and Melanotan 6:21 Speaker 1: eventually. I'm 5 10, 44 year old female, 6:25 Speaker 1: and have lost 50 pounds Ew. Since starting 6:28 Speaker 1: Retta. 6:29 Speaker 1: I have another 40 to 45 pounds to lose. So my main objective is fat loss. Secondary would be skin tightening and muscle building. 6:37 Speaker 1: I weight train a few times a week and wanna get back to a lean yet athletic physique. My diet is decent, staying low carbs as much as possible, and I usually do 6:47 Speaker 1: OMADs Monday through Friday. 6:49 Speaker 1: If you have any other suggestions in addition to and or replace of what I'm what's going on, I'd love to hear it. Thank you for your time, for all your podcast efforts. 6:58 Speaker 1: Can't wait to catch up on all of your episodes. You guys are fantastic. 7:02 Speaker 0: Well, shit. Thank you. That is a that is definitely a question. I love it. 7:06 Speaker 0: We we ask people to be articulate and ask, you know, give us details, and she definitely did. Love it. Yeah. 7:13 Speaker 0: Man, I mean, so you've been listening. You asked if it's too much. I mean, I can make a case either way. 7:19 Speaker 0: Know, at You're a Woman, that 7:22 Speaker 0: I don't know. I mean, you could tone it down a little bit, but you've lost a lot of weight, not as rad. Good for you. I am just high 5 to you right now. That's so 7:30 Speaker 0: cool. 7:33 Speaker 1: I'll jump in on a few notes while he's developing this So 7:38 Speaker 1: couple things that stand out. A, 7:40 Speaker 1: like he said, 7:42 Speaker 1: you've lost 50 pounds. You're doing something right. 7:46 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, it seems that don't if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I again, yeah, cool. I don't think you're doing too much. I think that these are all acceptable things. There is nothing I see that is redundant. 8:01 Speaker 1: So, hey, if anybody don't fix it, like, keep doing this. You seem to run the right track. It's working. Cycling on and off, I would say 3 to 4 months on most things together and then 8:11 Speaker 1: then take a little bit of a break. But really 3 to 4 months 8:14 Speaker 1: for peptides really kick in and start really working at their max efficacy. 8:18 Speaker 1: What 8:19 Speaker 1: stands out? SS-thirty 1. You're doing 1 mg daily. I bump that up. I'm a big fan of this. I would do 5 mg daily 8:28 Speaker 1: regardless. 8:29 Speaker 1: I think it's you're gonna find that it's really, really gonna work right then. Also, the SLU- bam mixture. 8:35 Speaker 1: K? 8:36 Speaker 1: I know what you're taking. 8:39 Speaker 1: I would bump the heck out of it. I would buy and if you don't have 8:43 Speaker 1: this if you don't have a mixture that has extra SLUTE in it, 8:47 Speaker 1: I would be taking, especially for you with all this stuff, 1000 micrograms a day with SLUTE up to 3000 micrograms a day. But but if you're gonna do more than 1000, I would do them like 1000 8:58 Speaker 1: morning, 8:59 Speaker 1: afternoon, evening. Thousand, thousand, thousand, equally 3,000. 9:03 Speaker 1: Or heck, if you just wanna do 1000 a day, that's cool, but it's an exercise mimetic. So like when you take it 9:08 Speaker 1: 4 hours later, your body thinks 9:11 Speaker 1: it's exercising. So if we could do that morning 9:14 Speaker 1: or later afternoon at night, 9:17 Speaker 1: your body's exercising 9:19 Speaker 1: all day long. 9:21 Speaker 1: And imagine the good results of that. SNAP-eight, 9:24 Speaker 1: I think, is really cool, what we have realized and and read tons of research and had lots of personal research with lots of different people. 9:32 Speaker 1: SNAP-eight is what makes kind of Botox Botox. It works 9:37 Speaker 1: well local. 9:38 Speaker 1: So it will help to tighten skin, but it needs to be injected locally and it needs to or or topically put on, but it's really gonna only affect that local place that you inject it or topically put it on. So it's not gonna have a full systemic effect and tighten skin everywhere. 9:54 Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people are doing it sub q in their stomach and notice their belly skin is tightened up. 9:59 Speaker 1: There is serum, though, that has SNAP-8GHKCU. 10:02 Speaker 1: We actually mentioned that. 10:04 Speaker 1: Ask us where to get that. We can help you out where you can put that in your face instead of putting a needle in your face. 10:11 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that those are awesome. 10:14 Speaker 0: I think it's a great dude. To say we may talk off camera. If you want, we can we can DM you some other things, but go ahead, JD. Yeah, I mean, I think this is great. I was reading through your stack. It's great, dude. I love it. I mean, you're right on, a 5 Amino AOD, MOTS-9A, NAD, 10:31 Speaker 0: SLU-3D with the BAM. I mean, I personally like just the SLU-5D by itself. I've done them both. I 10:36 Speaker 0: can make the case either way. I'm sure some people will disagree. I'm not the biggest fan of that 1 in particular. I like the SLU-3two and you can take a lot of it. And like Will said, it's an exercise with a medic, and I feel like it works really good. 10:48 Speaker 0: You can take a MIG 10:51 Speaker 0: in the morning, midday and at night for sure. Like he said, Tesamorelin at night was awesome. The only thing that, for you, especially a female, L-CAR-nineteen is awesome. 11:01 Speaker 0: I love it. I think it's amazing. My problem that I run into, which I run into it a lot and I've tried it because it's such a good, 11:08 Speaker 0: it's not a peptide, but you know, it's such a good compound that it 11:11 Speaker 0: sucks to pin every day. It 11:14 Speaker 0: is a full mill. You can't use an insulin syringe because it doesn't suck it out. 11:19 Speaker 0: And I mean, I guess you could back it up. You could back and load it. Yeah. It's just 11:24 Speaker 0: a lot. A mill every day to pin is a lot. I mean, and I've been doing this a long time and I generally get sick of it quickly. So, 11:31 Speaker 0: but you can try it. Melanotan's 11:33 Speaker 0: great, you know? We do a couple of times a week. It works really well. So I'm never gonna get tan. I mean, sure, if you've never tried it, it works really well. You can only do it for a short time because then you get really tan and people are like, Why are you so red? 11:46 Speaker 0: Heat will dig it. So 11:48 Speaker 0: your stack is amazing. I think that's why you're losing weight. Go low and go slow. Like you're not going to lose the 50 pounds overnight. I think you know that. I think you're great. Again, high 5 on what you've lost. 11:59 Speaker 0: OMAD is great. I'm a huge fan of it. I'm a huge fan of it. Sometimes for women, it's a little bit different than men from my understanding of some of the stuff that I've read. So maybe try to throw every other day, maybe do OMAD on Monday, and then 2 to just do an 8 hour window on Tuesday and Thursday. Try to switch it up a little bit. Trick the body quite a bit, 12:19 Speaker 0: because your goal is to lose weight. So maybe you're not eating enough. I know that sounds weird, but that could be the case. It slows down your metabolism and things like that. So switch up your diet. You said a decent diet, which is very big. 12:34 Speaker 0: Low carb. If you do low carb, you may not make sure you're eating fat. Because if you're doing a low carb like me, you definitely need to add a lot of fat and that's where people go wrong. So if you're getting 12:46 Speaker 0: tired, it's because you don't really have a good fuel source. 12:50 Speaker 0: All in all, girl, you have been listening. 12:53 Speaker 0: I think that you're killing it. I just think that this is great. You're doing great. Good job. Suggestions quickly on Melanotan. So there's Melanotan I and Melanotan II. Okay? Melanotan 13:04 Speaker 1: II is more is the most popular. 13:08 Speaker 1: It's kind of the faster ester, so you could you probably want to 13:12 Speaker 1: start off with doing it every day. You will notice with both Melanotans, folks, you'll notice you get tanned really easy, but it takes real sun, okay? Just makes your skin have more melanin and therefore get tan easier and be more preventative to burning. 13:27 Speaker 1: So you need real sun, by the way. 13:29 Speaker 1: Melanotan 13:30 Speaker 1: II, okay, is you want to start it every day. I wouldn't ever do more than like add for a 10 mg bottle, add 2 mils of water and do 5 units. 13:40 Speaker 1: Melanotan II can make you nauseous. Really nauseous. Really nauseous. Like, ruin your day nauseous. So do it right before you go to sleep. 13:47 Speaker 1: It's what makes you have more of these dark freckles. Yes. Do, dude. Melanotan II. Yeah. 13:54 Speaker 1: And a lot more flushing at the time of injection. K? I get super bright red. Melanotan I is longer ester, so you only need to do it twice a week. It lasts longer to your body. You don't get those black freckles, and you don't get as much flushing, and you don't get nearly as nauseous. 14:10 Speaker 1: Melanotan 2 also is very similar to PT-one hundred 41. It's got the kind of the same peptide strain, so it'll make you horny. 14:19 Speaker 1: Monotan-one, 14:20 Speaker 1: not so much. 14:21 Speaker 1: So Monotan-one, 14:23 Speaker 1: let's call it safer. Okay? 14:25 Speaker 1: Monotan-two 14:26 Speaker 1: is more effective, 14:28 Speaker 1: but it has some of those side effects. So- Bottom. You know? And, yeah, just be you know, it builds up in your system. You'll notice, damn, I'm tanned. You don't need to do it. You can just start doing even the Fast Ester. After it's built in your system, you can do 5 units, like, once a week, and your skin will just kinda stay dark and a little bit of sun will make it tan. 14:46 Speaker 0: Well, people will if you eat too much, people are like, Dude, you are like like a cherry. What's wrong with you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you just 14:52 Speaker 0: monitor yourself. Good stuff. All right. Do the. All right. Got my husband to have his hormones checks with my 15:02 Speaker 0: After 15:04 Speaker 0: listening to your podcast on testosterone therapy, 15:07 Speaker 0: she prescribed him testosterone siphonate, thousand mgs, 10 mil vial, 15:12 Speaker 0: 2 times a week, 0.5 mil each injection. However, apparently there's a national shortage. I checked around several pharmacies and no 1 has it, not even Amazon. We live in Connecticut. Asked Chad GPT and he said it will be restocked in 2028. 15:28 Speaker 0: It has limited weekly releases. 15:31 Speaker 0: So if by chance he gets it, it will start for a month, will he be able to get it refilled? That's my concerns. 15:37 Speaker 0: What would you suggest to do? 15:40 Speaker 1: Well, 15:41 Speaker 1: I I mean, I got something to tell you. So here's the deal. 1st of all, Amazon is not gonna sell testosterone cypia. That's 15:49 Speaker 1: like trying to buy Xanax on 15:51 Speaker 1: Amazon. Okay? 15:54 Speaker 1: So 2nd, whatever. 15:56 Speaker 1: People don't know, you don't know. It's all good. So here's the problem, I think, is test SIPION8 1000 mg per 10 mils of vial. That means it is dosed at 100 mg/ml. 16:07 Speaker 1: K? There's 100 mg of the actual drug 16:10 Speaker 1: in every 1 ml of total liquid. K? We all maybe all know what a 1 ml is. Customarily, Tesfibene comes as 200 mg/ml. 16:20 Speaker 1: Okay? So you're looking for 100 mg/ml. 16:24 Speaker 1: There is a There is a little bit of a shortage, but it's not just like everybody it's gone as far as pharmacies are concerned. 16:31 Speaker 1: What they've probably done is shut down the manufacturing of the 100 mgs per milliliter. Okay? So go to your pharmacy and get the regular Sip, which is 200 mgs per milliliter. 16:41 Speaker 1: And then his new injection amount will be 0.25 16:45 Speaker 1: of a milliliter instead of 0.5 16:47 Speaker 1: of a milliliter. Okay? 16:50 Speaker 1: It'll be the exact same. Same. He'll get the same amount of testosterone. 16:54 Speaker 1: The doc, by the way, is prescribing 50 mg twice a week. So 16:58 Speaker 1: try that. It'd be faster. 17:00 Speaker 1: Lucky husband that he is that you are out there searching for testosterone. 17:06 Speaker 1: Right? Most guys have to convince their wives to do it. And then once the once they do it, their wives are like, cool. Get on this. Yeah. 17:12 Speaker 1: He'll be a lot dude, he will be so much happier. You will be happier because your sex life is gonna be way better. 17:18 Speaker 1: And he'll be more productive and look better and more energy, and legitimately, 17:24 Speaker 1: will be happier. It does help a man's brain 17:27 Speaker 1: be happier. So I couldn't say enough about good for you. Do it and find a way. If not, we will message you and tell you how to find something. Yeah. Okay? 17:37 Speaker 1: And 17:39 Speaker 0: I think that was the question? That was it. Okay. I mean, that's pretty much it. It's 17:44 Speaker 1: been a long time since I've seen 100 mg, so it's it's 200 mg. So I'm just gonna put your doctor to prescribe that. Yeah. Yeah. Here you go. Should be easy. The crazy thing is too, but you, like, you still get billed the same amount of money. I know. Like, insurance company it's like, I'm paying for 0.5 of it. It's the same thing with every drug too. Yeah. Yeah. Like a a Retta 5 mg, 18:01 Speaker 1: literally, the foreign the insurance company will pay the same amount for a Reta well, Reta is not covered by insurance, but for a 30 mg. It's the same. Yeah. 18:09 Speaker 1: OxyContin. 18:10 Speaker 1: It would do the same thing. 5 mg pill versus a 80 mg pill. Insurance is still paying the same amount. Anyway 18:16 Speaker 1: okay. Next question. Easy thing. What's up, guys? I'm 46 year old male currently focusing on losing body fat. I was taking Reta 3 times per week for about a month and 0.5, and I worked my way up to 1.5 mg per week. 18:31 Speaker 1: I felt great, and I was seeing results. About 2 weeks ago, I noticed my resting heart rate started to go up, and my HRV started to 18:40 Speaker 1: decrease. 18:41 Speaker 1: My sleep also started to diff you know, suffer. 18:46 Speaker 1: I was on GLP-one about 2 years ago and remembered the same thing had happened. So I looked up GLPs 18:52 Speaker 1: and HRVs 18:53 Speaker 1: and other people who have been reporting the same issues, so I immediately stopped the Retta. I was thinking of letting my resting heart rate and HRV get back to normal 19:02 Speaker 1: and running the Retta at 2 50 micrograms 19:05 Speaker 1: a week. See how I do there. I also did some research and read that oxytocin improves your HRV. I was thinking about running them together. Any suggestions of how I could improve 19:15 Speaker 1: this situation and keep running Retta? 19:18 Speaker 1: CJ, do you need comments on that? Yeah, heart rate variability, 19:22 Speaker 0: which, you know, some of the things that you're obviously coming across are going to be fatigue, probably lack of sleep, 19:28 Speaker 0: high stress, I would imagine. Those are some of the things that are going to trigger that type of stuff. So we want to attack 19:34 Speaker 0: those types of things. If those are the symptoms and those are some of the issues that you're having that are affecting 19:39 Speaker 0: your HRV, 19:41 Speaker 0: we wanna attack that. So oxytocin would work. It will kind of help to calm you. It's a sexual drug, they call it the drug, but it has other 19:50 Speaker 0: things that it would do. It should calm you down, that should help. You could use Selank or 19:57 Speaker 0: Semax. 19:58 Speaker 0: Those would help when it comes to that. 20:01 Speaker 0: You can try Methylene Blue, 20:03 Speaker 0: that helps too. 20:05 Speaker 0: Something that I've just started to take, and I've liked it. 1 thing I was not prepared, man, you pee super blue. You pee a smurf. I was like, what? My son was like, dad, what's wrong with your pee? I was like, oh, man, I wasn't expecting that. So that would help. And another thing that you're going to run into, 20:21 Speaker 0: probably, can't speak for you, is going to be 20:25 Speaker 0: your lack of healing, slow healing. So the obvious here is going to be TB-five hundred or NBPC probably blend. 20:33 Speaker 0: There's some digestion problems that kind of affect that stuff. So you could do a which 20:38 Speaker 0: is a KPV involved in that and a GHKCU. 20:41 Speaker 0: So those are some ideas. Am I saying you should take all of them? Not necessarily. 20:46 Speaker 0: You could. Those could affect that, and it's going to help you calm down. It's going to help with some of the symptoms of that and bring that down. 20:55 Speaker 0: Will it work? I don't know. Try it. 20:58 Speaker 0: See if it works. And 21:00 Speaker 0: go low and go slow. We always say that. 21:04 Speaker 0: See if those things work. Maybe try the oxytocin, 21:07 Speaker 0: maybe try the C LONK and the C Max. Those should calm you down and bring that down 21:12 Speaker 0: and start there. 21:14 Speaker 0: When it comes to the Retta, 21:16 Speaker 0: we don't say what your 21:19 Speaker 0: weight is. We don't say what your diet is. Those are always gonna play a role in a lot of this stuff. 21:25 Speaker 0: So for anybody listening, 21:27 Speaker 0: if you can kind of tell us your diet and your weight, that actually probably gives us a good idea of some ideas too. You do say you're 46 male, 21:35 Speaker 0: so that helps with that. Yeah, those will help with some of those symptoms, brother. 21:40 Speaker 0: Try it. Like I said, go low, go slow. I'm not saying try all of those, maybe try a few of them and try to bring that down and kind of get the HRV stabilized. 21:48 Speaker 0: And then try the Reta. I think Reta's great. I think your objective is to lose weight, right? So Retta's gonna eat a lot better than the Semaglutide that you tried the GLP-one 21:56 Speaker 0: back a couple years ago. That stuff sucks. So, 22:00 Speaker 1: right? Yeah, yeah. I think that was all good. Heart rate variability is an interesting thing, like, Yeah. 22:05 Speaker 1: We don't want, you want it, you don't want it low. You want it high. High? 22:09 Speaker 1: High HRV, and this is not like heart resting, heart rate. That's not what we're talking about. Yeah. Is a sign of your body is recovering and healthy, in a good healthy mode. Right? Decreasing HRV 22:20 Speaker 1: is means you're not you're in, like, a like, a stress response mode, which is not healthy for any of us. So the fact that you wrote in saying it's decreasing, you are right. That is not great. He everything he has said has been 22:32 Speaker 1: correct. 22:34 Speaker 1: Literally fasting. 22:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sauna. 22:37 Speaker 1: More exercise. 22:38 Speaker 1: I 22:40 Speaker 1: I have a feeling maybe on these GLPs, right, you're just not eating enough food, and so your body's in this, like, 22:46 Speaker 1: stress mode and not in a good stress mode. 22:49 Speaker 1: It seems to happen with you when you take both of these. 22:53 Speaker 1: It's 22:54 Speaker 1: interesting. So I don't know. Eat fruits and veggies. Do some more cardio fasting, 22:59 Speaker 1: sauna, cold plunge. 23:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. Get your body you know, and eat enough food. Eat enough protein. 23:05 Speaker 1: I I know that sounds simple, but 23:08 Speaker 1: it's a that's a it the r HRB is kind of an interesting deal. And and I guess 23:13 Speaker 1: I don't know. What does your doctor say? Right? I would ask the doctor if you're going to 1. 23:19 Speaker 1: Peptides, 23:20 Speaker 1: though, he is 100% right. Selank, oxytocin. 23:23 Speaker 1: Right? People take 23:24 Speaker 1: when we're in our fight or flight mode, 23:27 Speaker 1: we don't build muscle. K? That's our body like, we're cavemen, 23:30 Speaker 1: again. 23:31 Speaker 1: When being a lean and super buff person is not an optimal way to live when you're a caveman. K? You need fat on you. Right? You need to be protected for times that there's food is low and the temperature is cold. Okay? 23:47 Speaker 1: So 23:50 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where I was going with that 1, but 23:54 Speaker 1: you here are some peptides that work well would be because, like, the HRV 23:58 Speaker 1: increasing, 23:59 Speaker 1: not good. It's a cellular issue. NAD plus MOTS-three, 24:03 Speaker 1: both of those and SS-thirty 1, those are both talking about, like, cell mitochondrial 24:08 Speaker 1: health and just kind of internal 24:11 Speaker 1: even smaller particles in your organs. Right? 24:15 Speaker 1: Those might absolutely help, 24:17 Speaker 1: if not Selank and oxytocin. 24:19 Speaker 0: Yeah. 24:21 Speaker 1: Experiment. Experiment. Experiment. Eat some nice. Eat some And 24:24 Speaker 1: lower that red ice also. I would I wouldn't just, bam, quit. I'm done. Right? I would. I would lower it. Let your body get used to it. Let's change some of their habits like we just said. 24:33 Speaker 0: See if that if that evens out. Yeah. Because we were kinda curious. You said you moved up to 1.5 24:39 Speaker 0: mg per week. We didn't know if that meant 1.5 24:41 Speaker 0: Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 24:43 Speaker 0: Right? Or if it's 0.5, 0.5, 0.5. So if it is 1.53 24:48 Speaker 0: times a week, you can bring that down for sure and just go slow. Maybe 5 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I mean, Retta is very powerful. I don't know how much weight you're trying to lose if that is your objective. 24:59 Speaker 0: But very just for the most simplest form, 25:02 Speaker 0: of like whatever issue you have, disease issue, 25:06 Speaker 0: think about what the problem is, what are the problems that stem from that? You can start taking peptides to kind of address those problems in the simplest form. And that's how we just attack that. So, 25:17 Speaker 0: cool? All right. My turn? Yeah, dude, that's the most. 25:21 Speaker 0: All right. 25:23 Speaker 0: Love you guys and the podcast. Thank you, my brothers in Christ. My 25:27 Speaker 0: goal is to put on as much muscle as possible. Join the club, bro. 25:32 Speaker 0: Not too worried about gaining a little extra fat at all. I work construction, 25:37 Speaker 0: so with long hours, I need some extra energy, so I was wondering what stack y'all recommend for me. I wanna use IGF-1LR3, 25:46 Speaker 0: but don't know what to stack it with. I have a great work ethic and a workout hard, good man. I really just need a brain boost and energy for work, 25:54 Speaker 0: but also wanna put on a lot of muscle with the way I'm working out. Join the club, baby. So thank you guys. Eat, eat, eat, eat. 26:03 Speaker 0: The 26:04 Speaker 0: late rich piano used to always say, You want to get big? You got to eat big. You got to get big, you know? I love how you said that, man. I always enjoyed his 26:13 Speaker 0: post, man. What a lost that guy was. But yeah, man, I mean, I don't think you say your weight on here. Does he say his age? I don't think so. So those things help us, my brother. 26:25 Speaker 0: If you look into peptides But are not in range of like any type of gear. We've talked about that all the time. And 1 day probably, I think that's where we're heading. But I'm gonna throw out MK-677. 26:38 Speaker 0: It's not necessarily a peptide, 26:40 Speaker 0: but it's a non peptide secretagogue, 26:43 Speaker 0: so it's gonna help your body 26:44 Speaker 0: boost human growth hormone. 26:47 Speaker 0: It makes you hungry. Until I started taking it this last round, I actually just stopped taking it. Dude, it made me freaking hungry, bro. I used to say, I never have a problem with Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I have been freaking eating like a horse, and I've been so freaking hungry. Munchies, munchies, munchies. But that's what you want. You want a bulk? I've been eating a lot. Like, I look a lot buffer. As anyone follows me knows, I've been eating a lot more carbs and man, I just want, woah. 27:10 Speaker 0: So yeah, eat a lot. Eat a lot, eat a lot, eat a lot. MK-six, 77, IGF-1LR-three, 27:16 Speaker 0: boom. We don't know if you're on testosterone, 27:19 Speaker 0: so that's going to be the holy grail. If you're in your 20s, don't do that. You probably don't need it. But if you're getting in your mid-30s and above, which I would imagine you might be, 27:28 Speaker 0: have you done your blood work? Get your blood work tested, where your testosterone levels, where your estrogen, where is your free testosterone, 27:35 Speaker 0: right? Because if you're not 27:38 Speaker 0: and you need testosterone, 27:39 Speaker 0: you're gonna have a hard time with any goal. We've said it at nausea. So 27:44 Speaker 0: that's that. But that MK-677, 27:46 Speaker 0: IGF-1LR3, 27:47 Speaker 0: that would be great. I would even say like an HGH in the morning and then 27:52 Speaker 0: IGF-1LR3 27:53 Speaker 0: before you work out. 27:55 Speaker 0: If you eat a big meal, especially carby meal, take that stuff right before you eat it, right? That's gonna help out quite a bit. But the MK-677 28:03 Speaker 0: alone, my brother, I'm just telling you, it did wonders for me and it will help you bulk. 28:09 Speaker 0: It's the closest thing, in my opinion, 28:12 Speaker 0: to gear or 28:14 Speaker 0: a Sarm. 28:15 Speaker 0: I think it's going to get you the biggest you're gonna get without any type of gear. So if you're looking to bulk, 28:22 Speaker 1: that's my answer. Okay. Good answers. 28:24 Speaker 1: I will, again, try not to re explain 28:27 Speaker 1: my explanations or his. So, 28:30 Speaker 1: yep, 28:32 Speaker 1: MK-six 77 boosts your ghrelin receptor, which controls your hunger, and that's why it makes you hungry. It's also why that turns on your 28:40 Speaker 1: pituitary for making more HGH. 28:42 Speaker 1: Anyway, CJC, 28:44 Speaker 1: ipamorelin is a backup to MK-677. 28:48 Speaker 1: So Ipamorelin and MK-677 28:50 Speaker 1: are are based in the same class. They work the same way. MK is a bit better or stronger, 28:55 Speaker 1: but 28:56 Speaker 1: CJC 28:57 Speaker 1: and Ipamorelin 28:58 Speaker 1: blend 28:59 Speaker 1: will can help. It won't make you as hungry as the MK. MK could be a bit more effective. 29:05 Speaker 1: IGF-one, 29:06 Speaker 1: 100% do it. Testosterone, 29:09 Speaker 1: absolutely. If you're already taking tests, like, do this. It's a little experiment. Okay. Bump your test up to more than 400 mg a week and watch what happens in 2 weeks. If you wanna gain weight at all costs, you know what I'm saying? And and this doesn't and it isn't necessarily this is not just gonna be bad. It's not like, oh, you're just gonna turn fat after this. Like, if you're eating right and working out hard and you bump that up to 400, watch. 29:32 Speaker 1: You know? You you you likely could put on 10, 20 pounds of muscle in, you know, a couple weeks. 29:37 Speaker 1: That's kind of your anabolic threshold in general of where where testosterone 29:42 Speaker 1: really is making a person just start popping muscles out. K? It just hyper boosts your protein synthesis, 29:51 Speaker 1: which protein turning into muscle. 29:55 Speaker 1: Then you can look like me or you just buy a small shirt like me. I apologize 29:59 Speaker 1: for this small shirt. I don't usually do this, but the dryer does It cuts your shirt. Does or just cuts sleeves off. Yeah. 30:07 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. Like, keep kicking butt. 30:10 Speaker 0: I don't have anything more to say on that 1 to eat food. Real quick, let talk about energy. So NAD, 02:00. It's been working for me. I've been loving it. I have the last lately. I haven't been so religious about the 02:00 because I get busy, but it does work, man. I would try NAD right around the 02:00 when you get dragging and your day is kind like, so try that, man. That should help with cellular energy. Works well. Drink water. 30:32 Speaker 0: Salt water. Celtic salt. Put some Celtic salt in there, man. If you're not hydrating, 30:37 Speaker 0: if it's, you know, it's just typical water, need to put Celtic salt or some good salt in there. It helps. It will. 30:43 Speaker 1: Especially if you're on a low carb diet because carbs are electrolytes. Right? That's where we keep water in our muscles. Right? If you can that's why most proteins that are meant for keto are just packed with salt. Okay? It's the only thing that's gonna keep water 30:56 Speaker 1: in your muscles and keep you hydrated. 30:58 Speaker 1: But, 30:59 Speaker 1: yeah, 31:00 Speaker 1: a 100%. Okay. So I will next read the next 1. So how do you stack multiple peptides into 1 syringe? For example, I have BPC-one 31:09 Speaker 1: hundred 57 10 mgs. I'll have MTB-five 31:12 Speaker 1: hundred 10 mgs in 1 vial, and I have GHK CU 50 mg in a separate vial. 31:18 Speaker 1: How will I go about combining into 1 syringe just to pin 1 at a time? 31:25 Speaker 0: Go ahead. I need to do math for questions if you have. So 1st and foremost, there's gonna be some people that tell you you shouldn't. Yeah. But that's silly because let's just break this down. That is called CLO. 31:35 Speaker 0: Right. There already, there's already a bling like that. There's a lot of stuff going around right now about not mixing peptides. How do I know? I have been DM'd 31:44 Speaker 0: the same post of some fitness guy that did a post that you should not do it. It messes up the pH balance and all this stuff. Listen, 31:52 Speaker 0: we have been blessed to know some very, very big wood peptide people, 31:57 Speaker 0: lot more intelligent in this area than us. 31:59 Speaker 0: And I reached out to a couple of them. I respect them greatly. We both do. And 32:04 Speaker 0: they were absolutely not. If it does mess up any type of pH balance, it's such a small fraction that it's like blah, blah, blah. So here's the thing. 32:13 Speaker 0: You can either, if you're taking 5 peptides, take 5 shots, have at it. That's awesome. If you are worried about it, there you go. Do that for you. It's each his own, right? I put every single 1 in the same bottle with same syringe. I take 10 units of each 1. I do them mathematically so that I get what I want. 10 units every time. I just do the math and I take 10 units of each 1 that I'm taking. I put it in an empty bottle each morning and I take the brand new syringe that has not been used. I stick it in there once, right? 32:42 Speaker 0: And I do 1 injection. I don't care what it is. I used to keep Retta separate. I even got sick of doing that. So 32:49 Speaker 0: I'm telling you the Retta works, Right? So I used to even do HCG separate. I don't sometimes things get cloudy. I don't care anymore, dude. I think it still works. Yeah. You if it worries you, then don't do it. You know? Like, it doesn't worry me because I've been doing this a long time, and I don't wanna inject that many times. I've injected enough throughout my life. I try to keep it minimal. Though. So, but your answer here, buddy, is absolutely, that is a blend already called Clo- Our Glow. And that's already, you're good to go, man. Just put it in an empty bottle. Will might say something different. I think But he 33:22 Speaker 1: yeah, you can do that 100% as you should. Okay. So here, if you do not have another empty bottle to put something in, right, I think that we are blessed to also have a bunch of other resources and tools around us. But let's say you don't have them, and you don't wanna premix them all 3, you know, together in 1 vial and pull. But here's your you have BPC, 33:43 Speaker 1: TB. 33:44 Speaker 1: They're both 10 mg. Okay? 33:46 Speaker 1: You should be doing 0.5 mg daily. Okay? That's what I think. Or 3 times a week. So add 2 mil to that bottle. 33:55 Speaker 1: K? GHK CU 50 mg, add 2 mls of water to that vial. K? 34:02 Speaker 1: Pull 10 34:03 Speaker 1: out of this 1, out of the TB 500, blah blah blah. That will give you 2 that will give you 0.5 mg of 34:10 Speaker 1: BPC and TB 500. 34:12 Speaker 1: Then syringe into this guy and pull 34:16 Speaker 1: 10 units. Or if you want more, but 10 units will give you 2.5 mg of GHKCu, 34:22 Speaker 1: which I think is the correct daily dose. 34:27 Speaker 1: Draw it right on top of the other 1. So now you have 10 units from this vial, and you got 10 units from that vial. Alright? Now you have now it'll probably turn blue. 34:36 Speaker 1: That's fine. 34:38 Speaker 1: And inject it all at once. 34:40 Speaker 0: There you go. 34:41 Speaker 1: So but he did he don't if you have another vial, okay, you lay out whatever you want. You you decide, hey. What would my daily dose you mix the correct amount of of water and decide what's my daily dose? How many units do I draw of that 1? How many units do I draw of this 1? How many units let's call it he does He works the math out to be 10 units of this 1, 10 units of that 1, 10 units of that 1. Yep. Okay. Cool. 35:02 Speaker 1: Now he wants to make, let's say, 10 days' worth of this. Okay? He goes 10 units times 10 is a 100 units. So he pulls out a 100 units into another valve. 100 units into the other 1. A 100 units into the other 1. K? Then he knows out of this 1, 35:17 Speaker 1: if he just draws, 35:19 Speaker 1: 30 units, 35:21 Speaker 1: that will be the 10, the 10, and the 10. 35:25 Speaker 0: And he injects that. And he will have 10 days worth of that. Some people do it where they do it every Sunday, like, they're, doing, like The meal prep. Yeah. There's a lot of people that do that. And I always keep saying I'm gonna do that, and then I don't. I know. Every morning. Because then I'm like, dude, I don't feel like and then at nighttime, I've been kinda lazy. Like, dude, I don't feel like doing No. I know. I mix it I mix it up for my girlfriend like that. And then I write on the thing, like, you will do this much Yeah. And it will give you this much, this much, and this this much. And if anybody's gonna ask, well, where are you getting an empty bottle? Do 1 until the bottle's gone. 35:54 Speaker 0: Yeah. 35:55 Speaker 0: So But he and he was right about that other thing, dude. We've seen too many too much stuff has has it works. It just works. It's going around right now, man, and they all sent it to me, and I'm like, listen. Yeah. If that worries you, then don't do it. But I'm gonna do it, and I have talked with people that I respect. I know a lot better than the guy that posted that, trust me. He's a fitness guy. Trust me. Know, put pepper on All 36:15 Speaker 1: right, you're up. I'm up. 36:17 Speaker 0: All right, on Tesamorelin, 36:19 Speaker 0: 1 mg, 5 days on or 2 days off for visceral fat, but get massive headaches in the middle of the night. Normal side effect or maybe lower the dose or switch to a different peptide. 36:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, 36:32 Speaker 0: do it, do it. 36:33 Speaker 0: Possibly, I don't know. I've never heard of people getting headaches. You could be dehydrated. 36:38 Speaker 0: I don't know. 36:39 Speaker 0: Literally, mean, I get headaches when I'm dehydrated, so why don't you try to drink a lot of salt water, Celtic salt water that might rectify the problem in itself? 36:47 Speaker 0: Or a simple solution is just don't take it for a week and see if the headaches subside. Then you might know that it might be the Tesamorelin. 36:54 Speaker 0: You can always switch from, if your objective is only a secretagogue 36:58 Speaker 0: and that's what you're trying to take and you only take 1 peptide, there's tons of them. CJC 37:02 Speaker 0: with Ipamorelin, 37:03 Speaker 0: could do just Ipamorelin, 37:05 Speaker 0: you could do, 37:06 Speaker 0: Sermorelin, 37:07 Speaker 0: you know, we could go on and on. 37:09 Speaker 0: So that's the simple fix, man. I don't personally think it's the Tesamorelin, but we're all science projects. It's very possible. You just don't do well with Tesamorelin, 37:17 Speaker 0: if you did Sermorelin, it might not happen. 37:20 Speaker 0: But if you stop for a week and you don't get headaches, it's probably Tesamorelin. 37:23 Speaker 1: Right? If you still get headaches, then you're probably dehydrated. Just drink a shit ton of salt water, man. Yeah. Probably rectify the water. Or lower the dose. Lower the dose. Start at I mean, instead of doing a full milligram to 1000 micrograms, go on to do do do 0.5 that. Frankly, that's where most people should start anyway. 37:40 Speaker 1: It might be that. I don't know. I have a girlfriend whose armpits itch when she takes 37:45 Speaker 1: tirzepatide. 37:45 Speaker 1: So, like, just weird stuff. Not different. When we when we inject these these these, like, kind of perfect little signaling molecules. Right? Everybody's body is just slightly different. Right. So it might happen, but I would try to Tesamorelin's awesome. I would like you to be able to use it, and I would say, why don't you go 0.5 38:02 Speaker 1: 0.5 of the dose you've been doing, see if they subside? 38:06 Speaker 1: And it may just be a lot of times just your body getting used to that pep pep. Right? I like your name. You might be able to do great. And then now when you bump it up after your body's a bit used to it, now you may not get headaches. 38:18 Speaker 1: So I think that's all the best we can do. Yeah. All right. I'm 38:21 Speaker 1: a 59 year old male that literally just had L4, 38:26 Speaker 1: L5, 38:26 Speaker 1: a spinal decompression 38:28 Speaker 1: and microdiscectomy. 38:29 Speaker 1: Had it yesterday. 38:31 Speaker 1: They had it yesterday. Damn. 38:33 Speaker 1: I would like to get your opinion on post surgery, 38:35 Speaker 1: regimen peptides. I've only follow I've been only following a short time, but love all the posts and podcasts on peptides of the week. 38:42 Speaker 1: Not sure just to start with just a single BPC or dive into a stack with TB 38:47 Speaker 1: 500? And the bigger question is what strength and concentration do I use? Thanks in advance. 38:53 Speaker 1: Kip. He's okay. Kip. 38:55 Speaker 0: Kip. 38:56 Speaker 1: You remember 38:57 Speaker 1: that stack? Because I do, and I can tell him. I don't know. You want me take I 39:02 Speaker 0: just have Backstrom's degree. Go ahead. Go ahead. I just had a microdystectomy. 39:06 Speaker 0: So, 39:07 Speaker 0: again, circling background, we're blessed to know some people, some kind of bigwigs in the peptide industry, right? So I had posted something about just having I was in the hospital. I just got done with my microdiscectomy and I was filming some stuff and posting some stuff. And a good friend of ours 39:21 Speaker 0: reached out and he says, Dang, JD, sorry you're going to the surgery. I'm gonna put you on a protocol that I have put all my pro athletes on. And 39:29 Speaker 0: I was already taking a high dose of the Wolverine, so the blend is what I'm gonna recommend to you. I love it. I love the 2 together. 39:36 Speaker 0: Will likes to try hills with a little but more 39:39 Speaker 0: I love the Wolverine. But anyway, so he says, Just get ready to write this down. I'm like, Okay, cool. So it was, I'm not saying you should do this. I'm telling you what I took. Not saying you should do this. It's pretty expensive. But if you do it, it will probably be damn good for you. It'll really quickly. So it was 3 bottles of the 10 mg. 39:56 Speaker 0: 3 bottles in the morning of the 10 mg Wolverine and then 2 bottles or 2 bottles at night. Right? I know it sounds like a lot. Right? Was, I said the same thing. 50 mg a day. It was a lot. And then the next day, 2 bottles, this is all 10 mg bottles. 40:12 Speaker 0: 10, 2 bottles. It's the 2nd day. 3rd day, 2 bottles, 40:16 Speaker 0: 1 bottle at night. 1 bottle, 1 bottle, 0.5 a bottle, 0.5 a bottle. 5 days is just saturating and just blasting your body with this Wolverine stack. And like I said, even, I was already taking a lot, but I even, I was like, Holy, holy hell, bro. Like, that's a lot. He's all trust me on this man, which I did and I tried it and, 40:34 Speaker 0: you know, I'm gonna just let you guys straight up know. I healed so damn fast. This was my 4th microdiscectomy, 40:40 Speaker 0: so I wasn't a rookie. I've been through this road. 40:43 Speaker 0: I healed so damn fast. I was in the gym 40:47 Speaker 0: very quickly. 40:49 Speaker 0: And even my surgeon was like, Dude, 40:53 Speaker 0: what? Wow. You know, I'm 48 years old. 40:57 Speaker 0: 1st 1 I had was 25 year old. I'm 25 year old, and 41:01 Speaker 0: not this is straight up with you guys. Have no doubt in my mind it was because of that protocol. Now I continue to take it forward. 41:09 Speaker 0: So my suggestion to anybody going to have a surgery, 41:11 Speaker 0: 3 weeks up to the surgery, you know, how much I'm not going to say, I don't know. That's going be contingent on a surgery and a lot of things, who you are, how old you are, all that. But 3 weeks until the surgery and then 3 weeks at least after. I'm telling you, you can cut down your recovery time by, you can cut off 0.667 of your recovery time. You can literally heal 41:30 Speaker 0: your 41:32 Speaker 0: surgery in 41:33 Speaker 0: 0.333 of the time. 41:35 Speaker 0: Yeah. No doubt. Straight up. It's that powerful, man. And if you didn't get that, like, just DM us? Yeah, sure. I'll pro write it out. I'll it to It's expensive. Like, that's not gonna be cheap. You can afford it, I'm gonna tell you you should afford it. It will I mean, who doesn't wanna expedite the healing of 41:52 Speaker 1: their injury? But even in moderation. So, like, we could even tell you, like, if if if 41:58 Speaker 1: it's not like, hey, that's the only thing. And if you can't do that or afford that, then just don't bother. That's not at all the case. Like, 42:06 Speaker 1: is 42:07 Speaker 1: you can do a lot less and will be still be very effective. That would just be extremely effective. So that's kind of more of a personal 1 you can, like, DM us on. Yeah. Here's the quick science. 42:17 Speaker 1: BPC, 42:18 Speaker 1: think of it this way, 42:21 Speaker 1: is a signaling peptide. 42:24 Speaker 1: So it does a couple things. It okay. So A, it's good signaling. Makes your body be able to absorb 42:29 Speaker 1: way more collagen. We eat food, nobody turns into collagen. We're usually not able to actually use 42:34 Speaker 1: and convert all that to collagen. BPC now tells allows our body to just suck in collagen, 42:41 Speaker 1: and it's a signaling. So it tells our body, hey. Where do we put this collagen? And it finds where you're deficient. Okay? That's where you're injured. Right? So it will shove it now right there to the injury. 42:52 Speaker 1: It will just shoot by a collagen and allow it to absorb. TB-five 42:56 Speaker 1: hundred is what just activates a ton of your stem cells that 43:00 Speaker 1: boost recovery. So now 43:02 Speaker 1: b TB-five 100 just sends 30 workers to the job site. Right? And BPC essentially sends the pallet full of, like, concrete and 43:11 Speaker 1: and wood. Yeah. 43:13 Speaker 1: And then they go at it and they build things way faster. There's a reason it's so damn popular because it just frankly works really well. Right. That's all I got from There's been some people leaving that that had sent me some different posts about how they shouldn't mix TB and BPC 43:30 Speaker 0: and blah, blah, blah. And like, listen, man, there is so much information. I feel sorry for everybody, us included. 43:35 Speaker 0: It's hard to decipher what's real and what's not. I don't know how to tell you to do that. There's all kinds of outlets that you can research these things. Check our We don't know everything. We just have worked with a lot of people, we've tried a lot of this stuff on us too. So we have firsthand knowledge of seeing these things work. 43:54 Speaker 0: How something reads on paper doesn't always mean that it's right. That's just the truth, man. Just the truth. So 44:00 Speaker 0: I can assure you that BPC and TB should be round together. Yeah. And they are a blend for a reason because of your work. Yeah. I agree. There you go. Alright, dude. I think 44:10 Speaker 0: so. Yeah. I mean, I currently weigh 2 10 pounds, 44:14 Speaker 0: taking Reta 3 mg, and MOTS C 4 to 5 mg a week. 44:18 Speaker 0: I'm very muscular and have a 16% 44:21 Speaker 0: body fat. 44:22 Speaker 0: I want to lose 15 to 20 pounds. Is this a good stack to stay on? Would you guys recommend anything else? I am currently taking TRT as well. Thanks guys. Love your podcast. 44:33 Speaker 1: You wanna run that 1? Hell yeah. Dude, that's a good stack. And I would suggest 44:38 Speaker 1: for you who like, 44:40 Speaker 1: excuse me, is in shape, is very muscular, and has probably good work ethic, I don't 44:45 Speaker 1: think so, 44:48 Speaker 1: SLU-3. I would take SLU-3.5 44:50 Speaker 1: I would up it. If it's 44:52 Speaker 1: oral sublinguals 44:54 Speaker 1: for for a grown man who's 210 pounds, I would take 3000 micrograms 45:00 Speaker 1: of SLUIP, and I would do AOD in the morning. 45:03 Speaker 1: Alright? 45:05 Speaker 1: AOD is anti obesity drug 9 6 0 4. It's the tail end. 45:10 Speaker 1: Actually, it isn't the tail end because it is 171 45:13 Speaker 1: out of a 100 176 out of a 191 45:16 Speaker 1: amino acids 45:17 Speaker 1: of the entire HGH chain. So it's not the tail end, but it's the back part 45:21 Speaker 1: that it just burns fat. Yeah. It does a damn good job at it. Oh, yeah. So SLU-0.00, 45:27 Speaker 1: I would add those in. 45:29 Speaker 1: I'm not saying even replace. I would just add them on top, dude, and you're gonna 45:34 Speaker 1: see very 45:35 Speaker 1: good benefits. 45:36 Speaker 0: Yeah. 45:37 Speaker 0: I think that's great. AOD, 45:39 Speaker 0: SLU- Boom. You already said it. Those are great. I would even say if you want to do Tesamorelin at night, know, Tesamorelin is going to focus in on that belly fat and it's the 1 that's FDA approved to focus on the belly fat. So Tesamorelin 45:50 Speaker 0: at night would be good. If you really wanted to like push it into really, really, really, really good to the jugular, maybe an HGH2 I use in the morning So 45:59 Speaker 1: here's the problem with people who are at that like 15% 46:03 Speaker 1: body fat, right? You want to get to 10. 10 is where we can start seeing all of your abs. Okay? 46:09 Speaker 1: At the 15%, 46:10 Speaker 1: dude, like 46:12 Speaker 1: progress slows down. Yeah. 46:14 Speaker 1: And most people 46:16 Speaker 1: don't have enough muscle on them to have their metabolism fast enough to get rid of that last little bit of fat, okay, just because they've 46:25 Speaker 1: cut down and cut down and cut down, but that unfortunately 46:28 Speaker 1: caused their muscle to cut down. Now metabolism is not fast, so the HGH is gonna ensure, like, you don't lose any muscle. 46:36 Speaker 1: Testosterone's 46:37 Speaker 1: gonna help that as well. But if you're cutting and you and your growth hormone's high, guess what? Great. You get to just burn fat, and that's the stuff that keeps your muscle mass on you. Yeah. Alright. Good. That that that that that, I'm sure he drank. Yep. All right. My turn. 46:52 Speaker 1: My dad suffers from peripheral neuropathy. 46:55 Speaker 1: Do you think peptides would help with this? 46:58 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. 46:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely. In fact, 1 of our employees has 47:03 Speaker 1: the exact same thing, and she tells us, and we've heard this not just from her, but from tons of people and and doctors, 47:12 Speaker 1: BPC and TB blend. So your classic Wolverine stack. In fact, also, I would almost do do Tri Heal because it has KPV in there too 47:21 Speaker 1: and which is really, really, really good on the gut. And 47:25 Speaker 1: a lot of just a lot of things stem from that gut brain axis. And if we can heal that gut, 47:32 Speaker 1: everything else starts to work better. But man, don't know. TB BPC blend will really just heal everything up and make your nerves not so sensitive. 47:41 Speaker 1: That's 47:42 Speaker 1: the best suggestion I could have. Just do it. Try it. I mean, I would do almost like a milligram a day 47:49 Speaker 1: for 3 weeks and just bet you just- tell Yeah, 47:53 Speaker 1: a 100%. Yeah, we would like to know- I would challenge you to do that and tell me that it doesn't get better. Yeah. 48:00 Speaker 1: I'd give you $50 48:02 Speaker 1: if you be honest, though. 48:04 Speaker 0: There you go. 48:05 Speaker 1: Write that down. Write it down. I promise I'm man of my work. Promise. 48:09 Speaker 0: Right. Last question, my friends. Let's see here. 1st, I wanna thank you both for a great podcast 48:14 Speaker 0: that's more than informative. Awesome, thank you. It's easy to tell you guys truly love this lifestyle of fitness. I have some heart issues, landing a heart ablation, 48:23 Speaker 0: ablation surgery back in December. My doctor fully cleared me in June. That's when I flipped the switch, getting myself back in shape. Good man. I started June 4 at 2 15 at 22% 48:34 Speaker 0: body fat. 48:36 Speaker 0: October 1 got down to 183, 48:38 Speaker 0: 9.3 body fat. Boom. Oh man, good on you, dude. I just turned 47, 48:44 Speaker 0: joined the club in November. I'm on TRT, a 100 megs, Monday and Friday. So 200 megs total, 48:52 Speaker 0: week. Retta, 1 meg, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. So 3 megs a week, it sounds like. Morning, as soon as I wake up. AOD, 49:00 Speaker 0: Tesamorelin, 49:01 Speaker 0: 5 mgs, GHK- 49:03 Speaker 0: CU, 49:04 Speaker 0: 1.5 49:05 Speaker 0: mgs before bed. I do CJC Ipamorelin, 49:08 Speaker 0: 400 49:09 Speaker 0: mg. 49:10 Speaker 0: I'm riding the stack out 49:13 Speaker 0: until the end of December, but at that point, I'd like to try a stack on some more lean muscle mass size and was thinking of running IGF-1LR3 49:22 Speaker 0: for 8 weeks. Besides the TRT and IGF-one, 49:26 Speaker 0: what would you guys suggest running with them? Low dose of Reta or maybe a MOTS-C? 49:31 Speaker 0: I've become a fan of peptides and a true believer in them. Again, I just wanna thank you guys for all the insight. Keep up the great work and God bless. Good stuff. Wanna run that 1? Yep. 49:42 Speaker 1: I'll do my best. I actually kept notes on this, but then, 49:46 Speaker 1: things start running together. Anyway, 49:49 Speaker 1: if you said, 49:51 Speaker 1: so to Adam, that SLU-p, 49:54 Speaker 1: you're at 9.3% 49:56 Speaker 1: body fat, dude. That's incredibly good, especially at a 47 year old with some percent, dude. 50:01 Speaker 1: From from 22%. Right? That's amazing. So, again, like, 10%, dude. That's when you start to see that's when you can see a 6 pack. So 50:09 Speaker 1: good for you, 50:11 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, how good the shape is. Like, we always 50:15 Speaker 1: we all we all have body dysmorphia. Like, damn. I just need to get a little leaner and more muscular. Right? When 50:20 Speaker 1: if you saw yourself back then, you would've said, I've made it and I can quit and life is great. 50:26 Speaker 1: But so good for you is how we that 50:29 Speaker 1: particular twist in our brain ensures that we always make progress 50:33 Speaker 1: and are always motivated. 50:36 Speaker 1: Those who have it, good. You're lucky. 50:38 Speaker 1: And 50:39 Speaker 1: so SLU-two, I think, would be a really good thing to add on to this. It will help your workouts. It'll help you get leaner and keep on muscle, 50:47 Speaker 1: especially with IGF-one. I mean, SLU-two also and IGF-one BOLD are. 50:53 Speaker 1: They 50:54 Speaker 1: help with nutrient like absorption. 50:56 Speaker 1: Partitioning, I guess, is the word. So, basically, while you're on them, your body will just suck in the nutrients that 51:04 Speaker 1: you want it to. 51:06 Speaker 1: So we'll take all the protein, just shove it right in your muscle, and make sure none of it gets wasted. 51:11 Speaker 1: Vitamins, minerals, the same thing. So if you're working out, those are gonna be awesome. 51:16 Speaker 1: I would say you said you wanna cycle some off some things. You mentioned Retta. I would just keep doing I'd keep doing Retta. 51:22 Speaker 1: If you wanna go a little bit lower dose, cool. Go ahead. You're already doing a damn low dose, but I don't think you need to get off of that 51:29 Speaker 1: and get back on it. 51:32 Speaker 1: Oh, no, man. You look like you're doing 51:36 Speaker 1: you're doing damn good. L carnitine, other than the fact that you have to inject it every day. People love it, though. They do it. It works. It works. It does. 51:44 Speaker 1: 5 Amino-1MQ. 51:46 Speaker 1: 5 Amino-1MQ and L carnitine are both, 51:49 Speaker 1: I think, like, good, good, good secondary 51:52 Speaker 1: fat burner. Think I've said this before. But L 51:55 Speaker 1: carnitine 51:57 Speaker 1: L carnitine is basically putting your body in a state of ketosis without being having to actually be in ketosis. So it just tells your body prioritize, 52:06 Speaker 1: let's burn fat instead of sugar, 52:09 Speaker 1: which is carbs. So your body will just start taking all your fat and just shoving it into the furnace. 5 m, 1 MQ takes your fat and, like, just pre breaks it down. So it's very easy to now push away and get shoved into that furnace, into the mitochondria to be burnt. 52:28 Speaker 1: Oh man, keep going. 52:29 Speaker 0: Doctor. Yeah, dude. I love it. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of CJC. People love it. 52:34 Speaker 0: Would replace the Tesamorelin in the morning with HGH, 52:38 Speaker 0: because I'm a fan of that. HGH is something that you can run-in 52:42 Speaker 0: longevity, 52:43 Speaker 0: in my opinion, at low doses, which is 2 I use in my opinion, just low dose. So if you take that and you run it for a while, that's going to really do a lot for you. So I would take out the Tesamorelin, 52:53 Speaker 0: but I wouldn't take actually, would replace the Tesamorelin at night with the CJC. Yeah. So when you want to get to the stage where you want to do a little bit of bulky, we've said this already, but we're gonna get to the MK-677, 53:05 Speaker 0: that sucks. Sucks. 53:07 Speaker 0: You're gonna bulk up quick. 53:09 Speaker 0: It works really well. 53:11 Speaker 0: So that would be something that I would say, I mean, you say, should you run MOTS-three? Sure. You know, if you're gonna run MOTS-three, we always suggest SS-thirty 1. They run really good together. So it can give you cellular energy, brain 53:22 Speaker 0: clarity of thought. You know, I love that stuff. 53:24 Speaker 0: It sounds like you were killing it, man. So man, you went from 22% 53:29 Speaker 0: body fat to 9.3% 53:32 Speaker 0: body fat from June to October, bro. 53:34 Speaker 0: Standing ovation, bro. That is very rare. So I'm assuming you're a disciplined son of a bitch, because that's awesome. Good on you, dude. 53:42 Speaker 0: So yeah, I would just say you just switch out the CJC 53:46 Speaker 0: for the Tesamorelin, run HGH in the morning, and then when you're ready to poke a bit, MK-677 53:50 Speaker 0: will do you 1 with men. 53:52 Speaker 0: Good stuff. 53:53 Speaker 1: Yep. Read up on your nutrition 53:56 Speaker 1: timing of IGF-1LR-three 53:58 Speaker 1: because it is really important. 54:01 Speaker 1: Like before workout, 54:03 Speaker 1: so it is gonna just when you take that, it is gonna suck in nutrients like crazy. So before workout, you take that and and eat some carbs. Right? It is gonna just shove the carbs in your muscle. You work out, and you're and you'll have a huge pump. Yeah. If you but but, like, hey. Okay. Or if you wanna pig out and 54:22 Speaker 1: and you still wanna, like, look good tomorrow at the pool, you take that stuff before your before you pig out, and it's all those nutrients are gonna go to your muscles, and you're gonna wake up with with a flat stomach. True story. Post 54:35 Speaker 1: workout, hey, if the goal is really, really building, building, building muscle, 54:39 Speaker 1: frankly, 54:40 Speaker 1: take it post workout. Right? Because what's it then and eat some protein with some carbs. Okay? You need the carbs as almost like a delivery system. It helps open up your 54:49 Speaker 1: help open up your cells, allowing more nutrients to get in. But take it post workout, a little bit of carbs, but protein, 54:55 Speaker 1: and it will just shove those pro that protein into the muscles. And frankly, you can even inject that into 55:01 Speaker 1: your muscles post workout. K? It's like, hey, I worked out my biceps. Right? You can literally inject it into the spot that you just worked out and it will put protein right there. 55:11 Speaker 0: There you go, man. It'd be all doing on my calves. I get so much shit about my calves, even though I hit them twice a week. 55:16 Speaker 0: So sick of hearing about my calves, bro. 55:19 Speaker 1: Calves Why don't you do your calves, bro? Like, I do. Shut up. 1st of all Yeah. It's a genetic thing, though. Calves Thanks, dad. Ain't gonna do anything. You know, you're not gonna do it's good to have, like, small 55:30 Speaker 1: rippling calves. 55:31 Speaker 0: I don't give a shit. Good. 55:34 Speaker 0: Man, that was that was enjoyable, man. We loved it. So welcome to the 1st podcast in the podcast room, man. 55:39 Speaker 0: Oh, so we're still gonna elevate it. You're still gonna see it get a little better. We're gonna have numerous cameras. We're gonna be opposite sides of the table. Yeah. You can't see it, but we have a TV there. So when we do have guests that are not live, because we will have guests there, they will be on there. We'll be looking at them. So we're elevating because of you guys, because you were so awesome. You give us so much support. We're stoked you guys liked the show and 56:00 Speaker 0: you spoke, we listened. Yep. Boom. Yep. Anything else you got? Thank you. We'll go. Nope. That's it. Hope And you're we'll catch you guys on the next round. I think what we're gonna talk about is Methylene Blue and what? 56:11 Speaker 0: What was the next 1 that we were talking about? Methylene Blue's oil. 56:15 Speaker 0: You remember? 56:16 Speaker 1: Do you remember what you said? No? 56:18 Speaker 1: I don't know. Methylene Blue. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. We drop it. For that and the mystery 1, I guess. Alright, guys. Take care.