Peptide Q&A #16 – AOD Reconstitution, TRT Pellets, IPAM Standalone & GLP-3 Dosing Tips Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-16-aod-reconstitution-trt-pellets-ipam-standalone-glp-3-dosing-tips/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. 0:13 Speaker 0: I'm your host, JD Denham. As always, I'm a good friend and my buddy across the way, 0:18 Speaker 0: William T. Haws. What's up, dude? What's up, my man? What looks different? Why does it feel different? 0:25 Speaker 1: Because 0:28 Speaker 1: You have a different background. 0:29 Speaker 0: I know. I decided I've always done the podcast at my home office, but I've moved it into the warehouse. No, we were in the same warehouse doing it here. So I was telling Will that I'm a little OCD, feel a little off. 0:42 Speaker 0: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But soon, we will be doing it in the same room, which will be really cool. Yeah, dude, that's what I gonna tell you. So the people out there, like 1 of the cool things that, you know, the podcast is doing well and we appreciate all the cool comments. I say that all the time, but we really mean it. It's awesome. So we have decided to take it up and level up a bit. We are taking 1 of our offices here at the warehouse and turning it into a podcast room. So it will be a professional, 1:07 Speaker 0: professionally done. 1:08 Speaker 0: It will look better. It will sound better. So stay tuned. What do we say, Will? Give us ourself about 30 days? We can rock I 1:16 Speaker 1: mean, 1:17 Speaker 1: don't I think I mean, it should be a week. A week, right? 1:22 Speaker 1: So our consultation room. 1:24 Speaker 1: It's our consultation 1:26 Speaker 1: room, and that's pretty easy to, 1:28 Speaker 1: yeah, set up. I suppose, 1:31 Speaker 1: yeah, May may maybe that because the holidays and 1:34 Speaker 1: all the time. Thanksgiving, 1:36 Speaker 0: man. But, yeah, we will be stepping it up a notch because you guys have been helping us grow. Because of that, we're gonna put some effort into it. It sound better, look better for 1:45 Speaker 0: everybody out there. We're excited. So today 1:49 Speaker 0: is our favorite episode. I think I can speak for Will as well because we love the Q and A. We get a taste of a little bit of you guys, man. We get a feel a little bit about who you are, what type of questions you ask, and we love to dig into these. And the cool thing, is that Will and I talk about these and we answer some of these, we learn, too. We continue to grow and learn and 2:07 Speaker 0: study, and it's been a blessing, man. And we read through them obviously really quickly, and there's some really rad questions in there, so I'm excited to get after it. You want me to do the honors and start? Do it up. It up. Brand new office, getting in here. All right, so reconstitution 2:23 Speaker 0: for AOD-nine 2:25 Speaker 0: thousand 604, 2:26 Speaker 0: backwater or acetic acid water. 2:29 Speaker 0: Now, 2:30 Speaker 0: Will, we have 2:32 Speaker 0: gone back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, and we have studied it and tried it. And 2:38 Speaker 0: final verdict, where are we at? Well, I think so. 2:41 Speaker 1: That and talking to a lot of actual 2:44 Speaker 1: manufacturers 2:45 Speaker 1: who 2:46 Speaker 1: are making the actual raw materials, right? This is where this comes from. 2:51 Speaker 1: Then our testing 2:53 Speaker 1: to prove their points. But 2:56 Speaker 1: glycerol acetate water 2:58 Speaker 1: is 2:59 Speaker 1: the best and that's what we are going to be using right now. 3:04 Speaker 1: It's a mix of should I tell people the exact concentration? Yeah, I think so. Why not? Alright. 3:09 Speaker 1: So 3% glycerol, 3:11 Speaker 1: 1% 3:12 Speaker 1: acetic acid, 3:16 Speaker 1: 0.8 3:17 Speaker 1: or point 9% 3:19 Speaker 1: benzyl alcohol, and then 95.2% 3:22 Speaker 1: distilled water, 3:24 Speaker 1: which usually that is the water portion of these things, right? Regular, 3:30 Speaker 1: like bacterial static water is 0.9% 3:32 Speaker 1: benzyl alcohol and the rest distilled water. But this glycerol 3:37 Speaker 1: acetate water, so it's glycerin and acetic acid 3:41 Speaker 1: and benzoyl alcohol 3:43 Speaker 1: with distilled water, 3:45 Speaker 1: seems to do the trick always and good AOD needs to be mixed with that. 3:52 Speaker 0: It's taken us a lot of trial and error and trying different things, and here we are. So we are gonna be sending that out with each AOD order. 4:01 Speaker 1: And, 4:03 Speaker 1: yes, Absolutely. The thing is too, it's like and we all know AOD is just really hydrophobic. 4:10 Speaker 1: And 4:11 Speaker 1: but this, we even have a bottle that's been sitting there for 30 days. And usually, even with acetic acid, 4:18 Speaker 1: benzoyl alcohol, if you just basically, like, word of the wise folks, if you get AOD, use it. Don't forget about it after you mix it, and then then come back in a couple weeks and be oh, shoot. I didn't do that. Like, it's going to gel up. 4:31 Speaker 1: And that's your fault at that point. 4:33 Speaker 1: But if it gels up, you know, before you can responsibly use it, on a daily basis, 4:38 Speaker 1: that is not your fault. 4:41 Speaker 1: That's the that's whoever you bought it from's fault. So Yeah. Anyway, 4:45 Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the trick. 4:48 Speaker 1: We, 4:49 Speaker 1: yes, will do it right from now on to to all of the people, and that's what I'm gonna be using. Also, we're experimenting just while we're on that is 4:58 Speaker 1: using so a lot of people so a lot of these pet pets sting. Well, GHKCU 5:02 Speaker 1: NAD makes me 5:04 Speaker 1: stings like hell to me. Okay. Intramuscular, 5:08 Speaker 1: SubQ, 5:09 Speaker 1: it didn't used to, but so we're experimenting with sodium chloride, bacteriostatic water, and that is supposed to 5:16 Speaker 1: potentially kind of blunt a lot of that sting. 5:21 Speaker 1: We'll come back to you with some conclusive evidence on different people. But, you know, it's all just like, dude, 5:27 Speaker 1: these are peptides of powerful compounds 5:31 Speaker 1: and 5:32 Speaker 1: do different things to different people. Right? We all have a slightly different genetic makeup. 5:37 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's a girl who's doing 1. She's like, it it my armpits are super itchy. And it's like directly correlated, not not to AOD, but just to 1 of these peptides. It's just a weird thing. Weird how everybody's body is a little bit different. Yeah. For sure. That's how it is, man. And then and nothing's perfect. Right? We're still figuring this stuff out, but we do know that nothing is 5:58 Speaker 1: not doing anything that's killing 6:00 Speaker 1: people. 6:01 Speaker 1: These are all safe. It's just these little kind of like minor, all right, 6:06 Speaker 0: little effects that we're all trying to figure out. Well, on 2, we have never ever pretended to act like we know it all. We have a podcast and we put a lot of effort into it, we study and we learn and we grow, and that's just who we are. But like, we've never said we know it all. So some of the people in the call are like barking at different things. Listen, man, we are work in progress. We do our best. Our goal is, from day 1 has been to educate people and to mainly shine a light on how freaking rad peptides are, But we have never sat on top of the stool singing how great we are because we know it all. 6:38 Speaker 0: Cut some slack and we do our best and we're going to continue to grow and evolve as all of us should. That's the goal, right? Evolve. Yeah. And too much of the acetic acid can burn, right? Too much of that, if you're just going straight up acetic acid, 6:54 Speaker 1: not the best idea. 6:56 Speaker 1: So glycerol 6:57 Speaker 1: acetate, 6:59 Speaker 1: bacterial static water, but glycerol acetate water 7:02 Speaker 0: is what you're looking for. It's what we have found. Beautiful. Alright. You're out, big dog. Alright. 7:09 Speaker 1: I've heard you discuss getting your hormones right before getting on peptides. I was wondering your thoughts on testosterone pellets versus injections. JD, I'll let you do this since you've had some experience. 7:19 Speaker 0: Yeah. 7:21 Speaker 0: I'm not a big fan of them. 7:23 Speaker 0: Listen, if you're somebody that just doesn't want to inject 7:26 Speaker 0: testosterone, 7:27 Speaker 0: I get that, you know, I mean, I've been doing it a long time and I'm not gonna lie, it just gets old and it sucks and it is what it is, you know, especially if you're doing it 7:35 Speaker 0: 3 times a week, which I am right now. A lot of times I do it once a week because I just get tired of pinning and yeah, does it affect estrogen levels a little bit? Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it can. 7:45 Speaker 0: But injecting yourself can get old, right? Especially I've been doing it for 10 years. 7:50 Speaker 0: Testosterone pellets, they work. I've done them. 7:54 Speaker 0: I've done it all. I've even done a little bit of the cream and that throw that stuff out the window, in my opinion. 8:00 Speaker 0: But again, if you're somebody that just is maybe getting into it and you just want to try the testosterone pellet, sure. 8:07 Speaker 0: I'm not necessarily 8:09 Speaker 0: knocking them. My preference, 8:11 Speaker 0: 10 times out of 10, is just gonna be the typical injecting 8:15 Speaker 0: it myself. I can control a little bit more of the dosage, kind of keeping my levels kind of where I like them, 8:23 Speaker 0: where the pellets, 8:24 Speaker 0: they release as they release, you know? My understanding of them is as you exercise and do more, if you're more active, it releases more of the 8:33 Speaker 0: testosterone. 8:34 Speaker 0: I don't know how true that is because I don't know if I ever noticed any type of difference in it. So 8:40 Speaker 0: my final answer is, 8:42 Speaker 0: sure, I think that if it's better than nothing, if I had to choose, I would go with the injecting. If you have a problem with injecting, 8:49 Speaker 0: go with the pellets. Do it every 4 months. Some people do it every 6 months. 8:54 Speaker 1: It's going to be harder to control your levels, Yeah, for sure. I guess that is what I see is like, okay, look, Again, what do we just say? Hey, not everybody's the same. You know? So now we're just forcing you to have with the pellet, you know, this is your dose. Right? And that's what your dose is gonna be for the next 4 months. Right? Well, that's it's a 1 size fits all. 9:16 Speaker 1: Good luck. Right? I mean, I know a lot of women do you know, that's it's popular for women. Right? Well, I mean, women, 9:23 Speaker 1: you do not want to do So a lot of 9:26 Speaker 1: that scares me when there's putting it in. Yeah. There's no taking it out. You know? You can't lower the dose on a pellet. You know, it's in there. So if it happens, you happen to be a woman who's really sensitive to testosterone and now you're just stuck with it, that can be very bad. 9:41 Speaker 1: And 9:42 Speaker 1: I don't know, most men that I see who are on pellets tend to 9:47 Speaker 1: be asking 9:49 Speaker 1: where to get testosterone 9:51 Speaker 1: to add. 9:54 Speaker 0: 1 other thing that is not going to be like, I think I've been told it's fairly rare. However, 10:00 Speaker 0: for me, 10:01 Speaker 0: 1 of the big reasons I stopped, well, numerous reasons why I stopped using this, just went back to the injections, was my body didn't like the pellets. It would literally push them out. Like they do a little incision on the top part of your butt, and they put that in and it heals supposedly in a week. Well, my injection never healed. It would literally take a month and 0.5. 10:20 Speaker 0: Because my body didn't want them, they probably thought it was a foreign object obviously and would push them out. I literally would have them pop out. Like my doctor, at least said, Dude, it's like super, super, super rare. And I'm like, Of course, it's me. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know if that's gonna other people are gonna find it. That's my experience. I don't know if I'm it is rare or if it's it's not rare. He just said that, but that was my experience. It wouldn't heal. That cut wouldn't heal, and it sucked. It was so annoying. Probably because you're so damn lean, but honestly. I don't know. My wife laughed, and she was gonna do listen to this for sure. And so me being just mean, like, getting sick of it, I put don't judge me when I say this, everybody. Put 10:57 Speaker 0: the the what is that? Monkey glue or the gorilla glue to try to like like close the damn thing so it would finally close so wouldn't have a big cut on my butt. But she was like, You are seriously insane. Brilliant. 11:09 Speaker 1: To hear. Baby, I love you. Do you eat nails also for breakfast? I try. Good job. Yeah. 11:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, or you can I've had implants that do other things and I have 11:20 Speaker 1: me, 11:21 Speaker 1: don't do this. I'd cut 1 out of myself because I didn't want it in there. Everybody tell me that. 11:26 Speaker 0: Don't do that. Man, we do stupid stuff, man. Let's just let's just call a spade a spade. We we are not the brightest bulbs. That's 11:35 Speaker 0: pretty much why we get until we get married. 11:38 Speaker 1: You know, they say something like like 95 percent of men will right handed males will 11:44 Speaker 1: during during their growth and their maturation, they will have a scar over their left eye because 11:49 Speaker 1: because if you're right handed, your left eye is your 11:53 Speaker 1: kind of blindside, you know, and or reckless. And at some point in time, you're gonna goon into something, you know, run into a cabinet or something like that. I think I have, like, 3 scars on my left eye. 12:05 Speaker 0: Too soon, man. We're not we're not the bright eyes. That's for damn sure, man. So anyways, I hope that answers it. I don't know, man. I mean, to be honest with you, I would just get the injections. If you're 12:14 Speaker 0: a woman, maybe that would probably be a little bit easier for you because I know they're huge in that area. 12:19 Speaker 0: But for a man, just go with the injections, man. I know it's gonna suck at 1st, but guess, dude, it's nothing, man. It's really not big of a deal, and you can control your test levels a lot better. There you go. Yep. My man. There it is. I 12:30 Speaker 0: know 12:31 Speaker 0: you should stack Ipah with other peps, 12:34 Speaker 0: but if I run out of the peps, 12:36 Speaker 0: it's okay to run Ipah by itself. 12:39 Speaker 0: Sure. 12:40 Speaker 1: Sure. It's okay. It's okay. If you run out of the other ones, like it's not bad. 12:44 Speaker 1: Like, it just will- I ran Ipamorelin by itself. For sure. Yeah. I mean, 12:48 Speaker 0: listen, 12:49 Speaker 0: that's a super, super vague question, right? So 12:52 Speaker 0: everything, everything, everything, everything is the starting point of what is your objective? What are you trying to accomplish? Right? What are your goals? That's where we start. And 13:03 Speaker 0: we build upon that on any type of question like, are you trying to do? Right? So there you go. What are you trying to accomplish, man? Ipamorelin is great. 13:12 Speaker 0: Just Ipamorelin without anything else. 13:15 Speaker 0: I don't know. I don't know what you're It'll looking work. So like, just so we know. How old are you? What do you weigh? Like, what are your goals? Do you work out? Do you not work out? There's a lot of things, but Ipas great by itself. I've done it. There you go. Yep. It'll work. It'll make you it is the 1 that works by activating your ghrelin receptor, which in turn can make you a little bit hungry. 13:34 Speaker 1: So same thing with the MK-six 77. 13:38 Speaker 1: Except for MK is a bit stronger. 13:41 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. But, yep, it'll work. You're running out of the others. 13:45 Speaker 1: Keep doing that. 13:47 Speaker 1: Might as well. 13:49 Speaker 1: Alright. Hi again, guys. 13:51 Speaker 1: Continued thanks for putting out great content and answering our questions. It's truly helpful. I was on tirzepatide for about a year at 7.5 mg and transitioned to Ordureta over the past few months with no issues. Started low, and I'm about 5 mg once a week. Closing in on those last 5 pounds as I body recomp. 14:12 Speaker 1: I discovered a box of tirzepatide 14:15 Speaker 1: in my fridge, and I'm trying to figure out how best to use it up. Would you recommend alternating between Reta and Zep every week until all 4 pens are used, or should I just switch back to the 7.5 Zepbound for 4 weeks, 14:29 Speaker 1: and then be done with it? Chiming in on GLP dosing scheduling. I actually like injecting once a week, Sunday evening for me, as it allows me to have a little bit more appetite flexibility on the weekend, 14:40 Speaker 1: which is when we tend to travel or entertain. 14:43 Speaker 1: And I found that I'm less likely to notice the side effects if I dose in the evening, yeah, 14:49 Speaker 1: because I sleep through the some of the initial hit. Thanks again. 14:54 Speaker 1: All right. 14:56 Speaker 1: My 14:57 Speaker 1: answer is like Great question. It's 15:00 Speaker 1: up to you. Like, you will probably notice the 15:04 Speaker 1: different 15:05 Speaker 1: feeling, right, between tirzepatide and Retta. My guess is with most people are gonna have more of an appetite restricted. 15:13 Speaker 1: So, like, you're just not gonna wanna eat as much on tirzepatide. They 15:18 Speaker 1: should be just milligram per milligram should be equal. So, like, let's say you're taking tirzepatide, 15:22 Speaker 1: you know, you're 5.5 mg and you wanna go to Retatr. Cool. Start at 5 mg. That's fine. It's not the same for semaglutide. 15:29 Speaker 1: But Yeah. 15:31 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Like, on this 1, I would say whatever. 15:35 Speaker 1: Just because it's gonna take your appetite away better. It's not gonna burn fat as much. Right? You're not gonna be able to eat 15:42 Speaker 1: as much. You're not gonna like food as much. So you can mix those 2 together. I would not take, like, 5 and 5. You know? Hell, dude, if you wanna take 2.5 and 2.5, 15:52 Speaker 1: there's your 5 mg a week. You can totally do that. Switch between them. I wouldn't I would only go, you know, do the whole do the tirzepatide until it's gone if you feel like 16:03 Speaker 1: feeling those effects. 16:05 Speaker 1: If you like the Retta better and that's what you want and you just want to not lose your money on the tirzepatide, but you wish you had Retta, then I would almost do like, I would do 0.75 of the Retta and 0.25 16:17 Speaker 1: Tirzepatide 16:18 Speaker 1: every week until that Tirz is gone. 16:21 Speaker 1: So then mostly, really, it still basically feels like you're doing Retta, you're getting all the benefit, and you haven't lost your money. 16:29 Speaker 0: That's what I'd say. I like it. 1st off, I love this question because this is a thought through and what you're doing is finding your sweet spot. And you say that you know that you like to take it once a week because by the weekend, 16:40 Speaker 0: you like to do your thing. That's thought through, man. That is strategy. I freaking love it. That's how we think, and I love that you're doing that. So that's freaking awesome. 16:48 Speaker 0: My answer is, so a 16:50 Speaker 0: little bit different of what I've been trying just recently, and this is just, I don't want anybody to mimic what I'm doing. I'm just telling you what I've been trying. So I've added MK-677 16:58 Speaker 0: into my mix. I've changed my diet 17:01 Speaker 0: quite a bit. I've been on a carnivore for a very long time. I'm adding carbs in and just doing some different things to try some stuff for fun and 17:08 Speaker 0: look at some different things of blood work, blah, blah, blah. I'm adding in MK-677, 17:12 Speaker 0: and I've never had this problem with MK, but everybody else talks about it. Now I finally know what they're talking about. I am hungry as hell. I'm just freaking hungry, dude. 17:22 Speaker 0: So I'm trying to tin that down at night, especially at night, man. I'm just munchy. I'm tired. I've worked all day. I've done a lot. 17:28 Speaker 0: So 17:29 Speaker 0: I've been just super hungry and a little bit more munchy than myself. The 1 thing that I love about the carnivore diet is it's just really easy. I eat fat, meat and eggs, that's it. I don't have to think. Now I have to do a lot of different things. And when I have carbs, I want more carbs. Right? So here's my answer. I am being trying a little bit of Retta and a little Retatrzepatide. 17:48 Speaker 0: I'm doing a little bit of both. I take it in the morning. I don't really have problems with nausea. 17:52 Speaker 0: So I've always just kind of done that. 17:55 Speaker 0: But yeah, I am trying a little bit of both. So to answer your question, sure. Try a little bit of both, man. I mean, I don't think you should waste it. This stuff's expensive, man. And just because we think Reta is a better compound doesn't mean that tirzepatide sucks and you shouldn't do it. Tirzepatide's great, man. So yeah, don't waste it. Try a little bit of both. Not going to kill you. You're going get the benefits of Retta. 18:15 Speaker 0: Don't do double doses, Wilder said. Be smart, as I can tell you are, 18:19 Speaker 0: and just do a little bit of both and to see how you like it. You might like it. You 18:24 Speaker 0: So might like it. 18:26 Speaker 0: We've talked about Reta that like the pound for pound best peptide, but it doesn't mean she's uptight isn't good as well. 18:33 Speaker 0: Boom. 18:34 Speaker 0: Final answer. All right. My up. Cool. Yep. 18:37 Speaker 0: Question is, 43 year old woman in premenopause 18:40 Speaker 0: gut health autoimmune 18:42 Speaker 0: problems gained 50 pounds on 18:46 Speaker 0: HRT, 18:47 Speaker 0: progesterone, 18:48 Speaker 0: estrogen, pads, testosterone. 18:50 Speaker 0: Feeling better, started Reta, 1.25 18:52 Speaker 0: mg a week for 7 weeks now. Down 10 pounds, want to build some muscle and recomp. 19:00 Speaker 0: What's the best to add? 19:02 Speaker 0: Do I keep Retta and heal the gut 1st? Thank you for the info. Appreciate both of you. You wanna run that 1st? You want me to go? Sure. 19:10 Speaker 1: 1st of all, 19:11 Speaker 1: good job. Okay. So, like, yeah, good for you. You lost 50 pounds. That's huge. 19:17 Speaker 1: We don't know what the autoimmune disorder is. A lot of these things originate. 19:21 Speaker 1: GG-ten. Oh, 19:22 Speaker 1: you gained 50. Sorry. That sucks. 19:25 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So you but 19:28 Speaker 1: I guess good news is 19:30 Speaker 1: that should be fast 19:32 Speaker 1: since your body wasn't used to all that 50, you should be able to get it off decently well. But the RET are you doing 1.25 mg a week. Okay? Like the starting dose is 19:41 Speaker 1: 2.5 mg as So suggested by the 19:46 Speaker 1: I think the fact that you've only lost 10 pounds in 7 weeks means that you should take more of that. 19:53 Speaker 1: So again, starting dose is 2.5 19:55 Speaker 1: mgs per manufacturer a week. I would at least go there. I think that most people kind of find after a slow titration to find that about 5 mg a week is their sweet spot. So you are, 20:08 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be okay with I'd be okay with increasing that dose. 20:12 Speaker 1: Now you said, Hey, should I 20:14 Speaker 1: heal my gut 1st or 20:17 Speaker 1: lose weight 1st? Well, I think that healing your gut needs to happen now, but guess what? So 20:23 Speaker 1: can losing the weight. And the fact is you take Retta, you'll be eating smaller portions, maybe not eating as frequently. 20:29 Speaker 1: You'll be giving your gut and your kidneys and liver a little bit more of a break and let them heal up. So I would be taking I would I mean, so my suggestion would be to heal the gut would be to take this peptide called TriHeal. 20:44 Speaker 1: If you don't know where to get it, DM us. 20:47 Speaker 1: It has 25 mg of 510 20:51 Speaker 1: mg of BPC-157 20:53 Speaker 1: and 10 mg of KPV. 20:55 Speaker 1: So BPC and KPV are your ultimate gut healers. Wow. TB 21:01 Speaker 1: 500 is going to help and reduce a ton of inflammation, 21:04 Speaker 1: and and cannot do do anything wrong. It's just gonna help. But that 21:10 Speaker 1: is my suggestion, and I would do high doses of that while you increase your Retta so 21:16 Speaker 1: you 21:17 Speaker 1: heal that dang gut while you're kind of giving it a break as well, and losing weight. 21:23 Speaker 1: That's all I got for you. And I think that will help, and I think that's the best thing you can do. Yeah, I'd definitely increase the 1.25 21:30 Speaker 0: megs. That's super, super, super low dose, especially if you need to lose 50 pounds. 21:34 Speaker 0: You need to up that dose. You know, you can lose it and then go down. Obviously, you don't have to stay higher, but I'd definitely go up 21:41 Speaker 0: minimum 3 megs, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I would start there. So go up to that. Monday, 21:46 Speaker 0: Wednesday, Friday. 21:48 Speaker 0: I'm gonna throw a little bit of a curve ball at you, is I'm going to, because gut problems, we all deal with autoimmune and we all deal with gut problems. It's the food, it's the seed oils, it's the air, it's all the above. 21:59 Speaker 0: 1 of the things that I know reboots your gut and 22:02 Speaker 0: really helps with 22:04 Speaker 0: autophagy and things like that that are going to help heal your gut as well. 22:08 Speaker 0: Organically would be fasting. 22:10 Speaker 0: So I would throw in some fasting. I would cut out breakfast 22:13 Speaker 0: and just start there. Just cut out breakfast. And that means nothing 22:17 Speaker 0: except for black coffee breakfast. I mean, you can have black coffee. There's no butter in it. There's no cream in it that would break the fast. So why don't you just try to cut out breakfast and eat from 12 to 8 just for a bit, just for a while, 22:30 Speaker 0: and just try to reboot your system? 22:32 Speaker 0: When you get to the 16 hour mark is when your body goes into autophagy, and what that means is your dead and dying cells die off and brand new ones take their place, rejuvenated cells. So that's gonna help your gut. 22:46 Speaker 0: Yeah, and 22:47 Speaker 0: you're going to lose some weight with that as well because you're eating less. So I think that is what I would recommend. Add some fasting in, up the Reta and 22:55 Speaker 0: they could be good for 22:57 Speaker 0: that's my answer as well. 22:59 Speaker 1: So 23:00 Speaker 1: Thymosin Alpha is a peptide, which 23:04 Speaker 1: a 23:05 Speaker 1: it floods you with T regulatory cells. So basically, it tells your immune system if it's overactive to slow 23:12 Speaker 1: down, if it needs a boost 23:14 Speaker 1: to speed up 23:16 Speaker 1: and can help with autoimmune disorders. Although 23:20 Speaker 1: research has shown if you have like an active flare up of whatever autoimmune disorder you're on, it may not be a good idea to take that right during that flare up. So I just kind of want to put that disclaimer out, but it's 23:34 Speaker 1: worth a shot for anybody who has an autoimmune disorder and sure as hell is worth a shot for anybody who is traveling or thinks they're gonna get sick or has, you know, a compromised immune system 100% doing it. 23:46 Speaker 0: Yeah. It's the absolute best for inflammation as well, believe it or not. Yep. Is 23:51 Speaker 1: number 1 in inflammation bringing it to my. Yeah. Both of those I mean, it's why, you know, there is no coincidence that the 2 peptides that really work on your, like, thymus 24:01 Speaker 1: gland, right, is 24:02 Speaker 1: TB-five 100, which is thymosin beta-four and thymosin alpha. And those 2 are your number 1 and 2 for inflammation. 24:09 Speaker 1: Yep. Okay. 24:11 Speaker 1: I'm up? Nope. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, legend. 24:15 Speaker 1: Shout out from Australia. My wife. 24:17 Speaker 1: Awesome. Female, 37. 24:19 Speaker 1: Wife, female, 37, and I, male, 38. 24:22 Speaker 1: Enhanced lifter. 24:24 Speaker 1: Started doing GLP 3 for weight loss, and we are we also looked into GHKCu 24:29 Speaker 1: when she stumbled across the podcast. K? I've been hooked on it since. Awesome. 2 questions. 24:35 Speaker 1: 1 question 1st question, a friend of ours has Graves' disease. 24:39 Speaker 1: Have you come across or heard anyone having complications using GLP 3 when they have such a disease? I have looked and there isn't much data out there and most refer you back to the doctor. 24:49 Speaker 1: Australia is still very infant with peptide use and the doctors aren't very much help. Australia is notorious about- 24:57 Speaker 1: government's- Not allowing 24:59 Speaker 1: anything like this. 25:02 Speaker 1: 2nd question, what are your thoughts on a high dose of GLP-three 12 to 15 mgs 25:07 Speaker 1: per week versus GLP-three 25:10 Speaker 1: at 2 mgs per week with so I guess here's the question is is do I it's 1 or the other. So a, is either GLP 3 to 12 to 15 mg per week. That's really high. Or Versus GLP 3 at 2 mgs, but also AOD 25:28 Speaker 1: 500 micrograms daily, 5 m 1 m q at 500 micrograms daily, Tesamorelin, 2 migs daily, 25:34 Speaker 1: possibly adding a SLUEP at 1000 micrograms daily. 25:38 Speaker 1: The goal is fat loss without the energy drop or muscle loss. 25:42 Speaker 1: I absolutely love the knowledge you share and how passionate you are about health and helping people be better. I would love to see peptides and the prioritization 25:50 Speaker 1: of health through peptides and hormone therapies be celebrated instead of hidden away like a dirty secret. Have a great week. God bless you. Us too. Us too. Us too. Too. We Yeah, man. Scream it from the rooftops, man. 26:01 Speaker 1: So I love that. I love it does start with it starts with us. Like, again, I have had friends tell me, man, this testosterone has saved my life. Don't tell anybody that I'm taking it. Okay? Like, you asshole. 26:13 Speaker 1: Right? 26:15 Speaker 1: That's not nice. 26:17 Speaker 1: I know. So, guys, do what you do. Are people so worried on like, oh, 26:22 Speaker 1: am I what is it? Like, am I nanny or not? Or he's probably not 26:26 Speaker 1: cares? 26:27 Speaker 0: Care about your worry about yourself. K? Reading my comments, man, it's like people are like, dude, you're on testosterone. I'm like, so? Like, they're throwing it like a tagger like, like, what do you mean? Like, you should be too, man, because you wouldn't be, like, making these type of girly comments, man, if you were on testosterone, bro. And just so you know. Nobody who's talking shit is doing better than you. My friends either on testosterone are working and, like, building companies, man. They're not on comments, like, talking shit. Yep. There you go, bro. Uh-huh. Okay. So now back to your question, dude, and I also really, really appreciate you told us what's what your goals are. That's 26:59 Speaker 1: helpful. And your age and all this information, and it sounds like you know your stuff and you've been and you've been working at it. Appreciate that. Here is the so we know GLP 3 per manufacturer, 27:10 Speaker 1: like, 2.5 mgs is starting dose. 27:13 Speaker 1: Max dose is 15 27:15 Speaker 1: mg. 27:16 Speaker 1: I frankly have not ran across anybody who has needed 15 mg. 27:21 Speaker 0: Right? Yeah. And 27:25 Speaker 2: Shitty guy. Personally 27:27 Speaker 1: think 27:29 Speaker 1: if you 27:31 Speaker 1: don't want to lose the energy or muscle loss, even though Retatrut dang good about not losing muscle, 27:37 Speaker 1: primarily because it allows you to still eat and want to eat protein, right, which is which makes you not lose muscle. 27:44 Speaker 1: My I would say number 2 would be a better option 27:47 Speaker 1: instead of just a super duper high dose Loretta. Although 27:51 Speaker 1: that will make you I bet you lose more weight with the 1st 1, 27:55 Speaker 1: but I bet you also indiscriminately 27:57 Speaker 1: lose weight. I bet you lose a lot of muscle and you ain't gonna eat very much food, dude. Like, 28:03 Speaker 1: I don't even know. And it might take you that long, a long time to get up there, 28:08 Speaker 1: to get that high. You wanna titrate slowly with Retta, which brings us to our next point. The 1 thing is 28:14 Speaker 1: Reta has shown if you are if you titrate too fast to increase your heart rate, 28:20 Speaker 1: which is why it's been in clinical trials a little bit longer to my understanding. 28:24 Speaker 1: And your 28:26 Speaker 1: son's friend's 28:27 Speaker 1: son who has Graves' disease, which I had to look up, and that's basically if we're going to simplify it, like hyperthyroidism. 28:37 Speaker 1: Those symptoms there is maybe anxiety, 28:39 Speaker 1: increased heart rate. So 28:42 Speaker 1: it would and weight loss already with Graves' disease because it's hyperthyroidism. 28:47 Speaker 1: So, 28:48 Speaker 1: Reta, you need to just kind of just FYI. 28:51 Speaker 1: Bumping up too fast, it has been known to kind of increase heart rate slightly. 28:55 Speaker 1: Slightly. 28:56 Speaker 1: So just FYI. 28:59 Speaker 0: Go ahead. So 29:01 Speaker 0: I'll start with the 1st part 1st. So Graves' is an autoimmune issue and I think almost everybody's has some, even if they don't really know. I think, 29:09 Speaker 0: you know, for the most part, I won't say 100% because how could I ever do that? But a lot of it will stem from the gut. Our guts are destroyed. We eat crap, we eat poison. I've said it a 100 times, we'll all be redundant for a reason. It's the air we breathe, 29:22 Speaker 0: just the food we eat, pseudo oil, sugar, all the above is just destroying our gut biome. What that happens is it yields autoimmune issues. I have an autoimmune issue. I've been fighting it myself. 29:33 Speaker 0: So what I'm going to do is kind of go out like I did on the last 1 and go out in left field for a bit. I would suggest fasting because I'm a huge advocate for it. I've been doing it for 10 years. I freaking love it. Not only because it's just amazing for our health. I mean, people have been fasting since Jesus walked the Earth because it's amazing. We don't need as much food as we think. Like, you know, to not go conspiratorial 29:56 Speaker 0: on you. They started adding in 3 meals a day to sell product. That happened back in the '20s, blah, blah, blah, Kellogg, all that stuff. So we don't need to eat as much. We just don't. So fasting is amazing. If you have an autoimmune, I'm not going to say it's going to cure it. It can greatly help it. It's not going to hurt it. So I would say do that. If you do kind of similar to the last question, start slow. Just cut out breakfast, just sit, cut out breakfast, man. When I did, I thought I was gonna die. Oh my God, I can't wait for 12. Oh my God. Like, you gotta retrain your brain. And when you start to do hard shit, like your body becomes stronger, your mind becomes stronger, like we're callusing our mind to be better humans anyway. So I get off on that stuff. You know, I talk about it a lot. So 30:40 Speaker 0: that part's awesome. Empowerment. When you say you're going do something and you do it, you get empowered and you get stronger mentally of the mind. 30:47 Speaker 0: So all of the above. Start that on your friend. Try then tell them to just do from 12 to 8 Just cut out food and anything from 12 to 8 Just 30:55 Speaker 0: fast until 12, just coffee 30:57 Speaker 0: till 12, then have 2 meals. 1 at like, 31:01 Speaker 0: you know, 12:00, 1 at like 6, 07:30. However, 31:05 Speaker 0: I would try to clean it up and eat a good meal and then try that. That right there, in my opinion, will at least help the autoimmune issue, in my opinion, and you'll lose some weight. 31:14 Speaker 0: 2nd part, that's easy, man. I don't think you should do a high, high dose of the Retta. That stack that you are running is rad. I mean, the GLP-3AOD-5Amino- 31:24 Speaker 0: SLU-, Tesamorelin. Dude, I've done that exact stack numerous times. That's fire, dude. You're look you're covering so many different bases. You're getting a secretagog for higher growth hormone. 31:34 Speaker 1: Hands down, easy answer. Go that route. Yeah. And who's to say you can't if you need a little bit more Retta, like, there's no also no problem with maybe if you feel like going slightly higher, 31:45 Speaker 1: but I think twelve's 31:47 Speaker 1: unnecessary. 31:48 Speaker 0: Know. Never even got close to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 31:51 Speaker 0: But I hope that yeah. I think that answers that, man. And great question, man. I love the 31:55 Speaker 0: That's why it's been great, man. Everybody's thinking through their questions. I love it. Yeah. Good for you in Australia. Good job finding it, 32:03 Speaker 1: yeah. 32:04 Speaker 0: We definitely are on Australia because I get a lot of DMs, I love you guys, man. I get so many people asking if our company sends to Australia. Now we would love to, but your government just 32:14 Speaker 0: government's your government. Mhmm. Alright. 32:17 Speaker 1: Next 32:18 Speaker 1: 1. So sup, warriors? I'm a 43 year old machine firing on all cylinders. 32:23 Speaker 1: Oh. Good for you. 32:25 Speaker 1: Thanks to thanks 32:27 Speaker 1: for your informational podcast. 32:29 Speaker 1: So I've been on a killer stack for the past 4 months, and since I've been following the podcast protocol, 32:35 Speaker 1: I believe it's time to take a month off of peptides to avoid my body from building a tolerance. 32:40 Speaker 1: I'm planning on doing Epitalon cycle to clear my telomeres. 32:44 Speaker 1: Good. My question for you is, 32:47 Speaker 1: should I continue my killer stack or start a new 1? I will keep doing TRT, that's a must, maybe introduce HGH, although my blood work shows I'm in a good range of 2 33 nanograms per deciliter. 32:59 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time 33:01 Speaker 1: and answers. 33:03 Speaker 1: So the cure is the killer staff. 33:05 Speaker 1: Test test SIP, 33:07 Speaker 1: 200 33:08 Speaker 1: mgs, 33:09 Speaker 1: 50 units, 2 times a week. So he's doing Hundred mgs. 33:14 Speaker 1: He's doing 1 mil. So he's doing 200 mg a week. 33:19 Speaker 1: SLU-two 33:21 Speaker 1: thousand micrograms 33:22 Speaker 1: to 3000 micrograms a day. Cool. 33:25 Speaker 1: Morning stack MOTS-one 33:27 Speaker 1: milligram 33:28 Speaker 1: 5 times a week, NAD plus 1 mg, 33:32 Speaker 1: 5 times a week. 33:34 Speaker 1: Reta, 3.5 mgs, 1 time a week, nighttime stack, Tesamorelin, 33:39 Speaker 1: 1 mg, IpA, 1 mg, GHKCu, 33:43 Speaker 1: 1 mg. BPC, 1 mg TB 501 mg. 33:46 Speaker 0: That was a good stock, man. I like it. It is a killer. That 33:49 Speaker 1: is a killer stack. It'll make you feel good, and it will work. 33:52 Speaker 1: I mean so here's my 1st is yes on the Epitalon. That's a great thing to do. 33:59 Speaker 1: Post kind of a post cycle to clear out some of the bad stuff and also 34:05 Speaker 1: help almost, like, detoxify you for the next 1. 34:08 Speaker 1: I would try to get yourself to not 34:11 Speaker 1: just stop 34:13 Speaker 1: all peptides 34:14 Speaker 1: and then start again. Right? Like, all these peptides just do specific 34:18 Speaker 1: things and work on specific pathways. So the goal is to 34:22 Speaker 1: the goal is to 34:24 Speaker 1: always be taking something that's working, but, yeah, give that specific 1 a break and then you can just replace it with something. Well, that's what I do anyway. 34:32 Speaker 1: So for these coming up, 34:34 Speaker 1: yes, keeping the test SIP. Okay. That just needs to run forever. 34:38 Speaker 0: And 34:39 Speaker 1: and a good view. Introduce 34:43 Speaker 1: the HGH. That also needs to be done long term. So once you start it, just keep going. Okay? You're really only gonna see benefits, you know, after 6 months, a year, and then it starts to get really good. And 5 years later 6 months in, man. You're killing it, dude. Yeah. It's important. Yeah. 6 months minimum for sure. So I would do that now. Okay. So, like, take a okay. So the things that I would keep for sure, and I do think you should give yourself a little break from certain from certain items, but I do think the HGH, 35:12 Speaker 1: the the test SIP, I think you can just continue on NAD 35:17 Speaker 1: and run that year round. 35:21 Speaker 1: 1 mg, 35:23 Speaker 1: 5 times a week, 35:24 Speaker 1: I'd 35:25 Speaker 1: I would do a bit more than that. I guess I try to aim maybe like 15, 25 mg, 35:31 Speaker 1: 3 times a week. 35:34 Speaker 1: Retta, stay on. Stay on. There's no reason to come off of that unless you unless you want to. 35:41 Speaker 1: It's always tough pulling out the I think you can you can give yourself a break from the Tesla Ipas since now you're introducing HGH. Okay? I know that we've talked about doing both, and both is probably better. But since you've been running the Tesla Ipah for 4 months, yeah, take take a break, and you got the growth now coming in you. 35:58 Speaker 1: And that that will help you 36:01 Speaker 1: that will help in that category. 36:03 Speaker 1: I know from experience, dude, I love taking the BPC-2B 36:08 Speaker 1: and GHK-3Cu 36:10 Speaker 1: mix, 36:11 Speaker 1: because I just feel so much better, dude. I wake up, like, not limping. 36:15 Speaker 1: My body feels loose and strong. And 36:19 Speaker 1: when you when I stop taking that, I I go back to kind of feeling how I normally 36:24 Speaker 1: should feel. So that does suck, but I do think it's kind of worth, 36:28 Speaker 1: I don't know, take a week break. You don't really need to take that long break, but I also wouldn't be doing those. I would be doing, I might as well do Clo, right, where you get GHK- CU, BPC, TB, 36:39 Speaker 1: and KPV. Who wants to heal their gut? It makes their gut stronger. 36:43 Speaker 1: Everybody. And it's just 1 injection. So in case you're doing GHK- 36:47 Speaker 1: individually plus BPC individually, TB individually, 36:50 Speaker 1: Just take CLO and you get all of them at once. Yeah. I'd 36:55 Speaker 1: I'd get 4. Yeah. Yeah. And find some stuff to replace replace. So I'd pull the SLU-3P. 37:01 Speaker 1: You know, you may want to Carterene. Yep. Replace so we did this. Like, Cardery is very similar to SLU-Ps, not a peptide, but very, very similar. 37:10 Speaker 1: Well, there's SLU-3P. It's a molecule, small molecule. Yeah. And I don't know. Add try try some like IGF-1LR-3P. 37:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. Try that. Give that a go for, like, 8 weeks. Does he say his objective? 37:22 Speaker 0: Trying to flag him there. Not really. 37:25 Speaker 0: No. I was seeing if he's trying to gain muscle. Yeah. 37:28 Speaker 1: IGF-1LR 37:30 Speaker 1: 3 is is great. I love it. It's great. 37:34 Speaker 1: Maybe add in, you know, the MOTS c. I next time, I'd say maybe take a 37:40 Speaker 1: maybe take a couple weeks off of that. When you come back, do MOTS c and SS 31 together. 37:46 Speaker 1: A couple of other fat burners to is AOD-5MQ 37:51 Speaker 1: be 37:52 Speaker 1: helpful if you wanna if you're looking for more fat burning. 37:56 Speaker 1: But dude, sounds like you're killing it and this is time to experiment. Right? Yeah. Take a little break on some of those. 38:02 Speaker 1: Keep going. That's all I got. 38:05 Speaker 0: Yeah. He answered it pretty well. I don't have that much to add. He kinda 38:09 Speaker 0: spoke kinda out of my own brain. 38:12 Speaker 0: And, I mean, like you said, do you need to take time off? I mean, there's 2 answers to that. Sure, you can. Is it gonna hurt you? Of course not. Is it bad to reboot? No. 38:20 Speaker 0: You're not talking about gear, you don't need to come off. You don't need to cycle off. You don't need to. You're talking about chains of amino acids for the most part. So you can run them in perpetuity. Most, not all, obviously, like GHKC, you're gonna want to take a break from because it's copper. 38:35 Speaker 0: Like, here's my answer, man. Like, can, you can reboot. 38:39 Speaker 0: November, December, I've gone down quite a bit from my usually take a lot, know, why not? But I've gone down a lot, at least for me, because November December, I'm doing that and just throwing some curve balls into my system. 38:51 Speaker 0: But yeah, you can change some of them. You can change the SLU-5Amino-1MQ 38:57 Speaker 0: instead of the SLU- 38:59 Speaker 0: What else could you change? NAD is great. Retatrutide. 39:03 Speaker 0: Yeah, like you said, Clo, he answered it, man. I mean, I would, you could change the Tesa Ipah and try a CJC and try a different 39:10 Speaker 0: secretagog. 39:11 Speaker 0: My answer is the HGH is, if you're over 40, you should be running testosterone replacement and HGH. I think almost everybody should. We're deficient in those 2, 39:20 Speaker 0: even though I think it wasn't this 1 you said you were, you're not. But 39:23 Speaker 0: those 2 run, just like the MOTS-three and the SS-thirty 1 are like peanut butter and jelly for the 39:31 Speaker 0: testosterone replacement and HGH 39:33 Speaker 0: for anybody over 40, in my opinion, the same. They just go so perfectly together. It's a long play for the HGH. As long as you run 2 IU or even 1 or 2 perfectly, you're not running a high dose, man. You're running such a small dose. Where you start talking about problems is like people that abuse it and take too much, man. 39:50 Speaker 0: I don't think you have that much to worry about at 2 IUs of HGH. 39:54 Speaker 0: So yeah, answered it well. I just piggybacked on a little bit. So final answer, I think you're good. Yep. 40:00 Speaker 0: Cool. 40:02 Speaker 0: Trying to find companies to buy peptides. There are websites that test peptides and you can see the results. 40:09 Speaker 0: Companies like Peptide Science have mixed results. Some of their peptides got graded in A and some failed their tests that weren't for the most of 40:17 Speaker 0: the companies that were tested. Now it's got me worried that you can't buy all your peptides from the same company. What's your advice when it comes to buying peptides online? 40:28 Speaker 1: All right, I can help with this 1. 40:32 Speaker 1: Nobody is perfect, right? 40:36 Speaker 1: I These mean, these are are still kind of gray area folks. So we you can't just always expect a 100% perfection. 40:44 Speaker 1: I don't wanna say anything bad about anybody. You know, peptide sciences has been around for a long time. They're obviously doing something right. 40:51 Speaker 1: Heard mixed things, but they obviously have people coming 40:55 Speaker 1: back. I think the things to look for is 40:58 Speaker 1: look, make sure that the company has a test, has an independent lab test. Right? Isn't- Channel It isn't yep. Channel shake. Shake. There's a couple other labs out there that that are legitimate. Right? Make sure it's not their own so they didn't just, you know, 41:11 Speaker 1: open up a Word document and create it. It's good. We swear. 41:15 Speaker 1: Or, like, I've seen tons of sites that say, oh, 3rd party tested. They say it everywhere. And I'm like, Okay, let me see a test. And literally there is the test, 41:24 Speaker 1: right? 41:26 Speaker 1: You cannot find it at all. They just say it all over the place. So make sure you can actually see the test. 41:32 Speaker 1: So, yeah, they better show you that. 41:36 Speaker 1: And 41:37 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're 41:40 Speaker 1: me, if anybody emails me and says, Hey, 41:45 Speaker 1: this is what my tests I tested your I 41:49 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I guarantee all mine and I'd 41:52 Speaker 1: give you something 41:55 Speaker 1: free if I ever test out 41:58 Speaker 1: below what it says it is. But I don't know if I'm I don't know if I can say that. 42:03 Speaker 1: I have had friends. We know we have a mutual friend who worked for 1 of these bigger companies that's been around a long time. So he worked for him 3 years and he said that they had never tested a single 42:13 Speaker 1: product, 42:16 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate, 42:17 Speaker 1: right? It is expensive. 42:19 Speaker 1: I've tested we have tested a ton of products. We just got 60 different results back the other day. 42:26 Speaker 1: A lot of money to do. It's really expensive 42:29 Speaker 1: to test them. Oh, we do. But we do. 42:32 Speaker 1: And 42:34 Speaker 1: I would just make sure, dude. I mean, here's the tough thing is like, just make sure you can see a test. Okay? 42:40 Speaker 1: And make sure you can see a test on their website and ask them if they will back it up too. 42:47 Speaker 1: Now, it is tough to say I mean, on some of these tests, it's tough if 42:52 Speaker 1: you're a business owner and somebody says, Oh, I tested your product. Right? 42:56 Speaker 1: How do you prove you really tested my product? You know, you didn't just show me some bad tests just so you can get some free stuff. 43:05 Speaker 1: I hope that's, I mean, if you do that, you're aware. Dude, people are aware. People do this all that type all the time. 43:12 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I think that 1 other thing to note is like the USP, 43:18 Speaker 1: when talking about, 43:20 Speaker 1: like, Tylenol, 43:22 Speaker 1: for example, right, their 43:24 Speaker 1: purity regulations 43:25 Speaker 1: is it must be between 90110%. 43:29 Speaker 1: Okay? 43:30 Speaker 1: Peptides, 43:31 Speaker 1: for some reason, right? If you 43:33 Speaker 1: it's below 43:35 Speaker 1: 99%. 43:37 Speaker 1: Oh, that's terrible. Just realize that every other drug that you're taking out there, the legal 43:43 Speaker 1: percentage restriction is above 90. Okay? So 43:48 Speaker 1: that's about what you're getting. People shoot for about 95. 43:50 Speaker 1: These drug companies are going to shoot for about 95%. So 43:56 Speaker 1: for some reason, peptides 43:58 Speaker 1: must be at 99.9%. 44:01 Speaker 0: Those are new. Everybody's worried about them. Mean, here's the thing, man. So 44:05 Speaker 0: you have peptide companies popping up left and right, front and center, blah, blah, blah. They're everywhere, right? Let me just make a suggestion from, you know, some free advice. 44:15 Speaker 0: You don't wanna go cheap on peptides, man. If you got some guy, your brother's uncle's that's slinging peptides out of his closet, that's a problem. If you're there a lot cheaper than they should be, that's a problem. You know, you don't wanna cut corners when it comes to peptides. 44:28 Speaker 0: You know, you wanna go with a premium type product simply because you're injecting it into your body. Like obviously, 44:34 Speaker 0: don't go cheap. Don't seek the cheapest because the cheapest is definitely not better in peptides. Just trust me, man, because everybody and their brother, I mean, we talk to people all the time. I got a peptide company. I'm not really making any money, but like they're selling it out of the back of their truck, so to speak. Just be careful, man. Like, we don't push our stuff. 44:53 Speaker 0: Ended by now probably with a brand knows that we have a peptide company. We don't push it. We are trying to shine the light on the amazing, amazing, amazing qualities of it. 45:02 Speaker 0: That's it, you know? But we also want to give you the advice, like, Peptide Science has been around for a long time. So I'm going to tell you that I've never used their products, but anybody that lasts for long periods of times in this industry has to be doing something right. So I'm not going to bad mouth them, whatever. 45:18 Speaker 0: Know, if you again, if you just use a company that obviously 45:22 Speaker 0: you get a good feel for, I would buy things buy from companies that you trust. How do you trust them completely? You can't, man. You just gotta go with kind of what your gut and again, don't cheap out. That's it, man, because cheap does not mean better in this industry. See they respond 45:37 Speaker 1: to you too. You know? 45:39 Speaker 0: Email, 45:40 Speaker 1: text message in, right? 45:42 Speaker 0: Is it a legit company? 45:44 Speaker 0: They have like, like obviously, money to buy good quality products? Because if they don't, they're buying cheap products, man. And I can tell you, with experience of us, we spend a shitload of money to test them. It costs way too much than we would prefer. Trust us. I take the products myself, but more importantly, I give them to my wife. I'm not giving anything to my wife unless I know that it's legit, period. And we 46:05 Speaker 1: have, right, when people if you don't have not an established company and you are not willing to, when you spend a whole bunch of money on product and then you test it out or you don't test it out or you think it might be subpar, 46:17 Speaker 1: right, you might not be willing to just throw those away. We 46:21 Speaker 1: we have thrown thousands 46:22 Speaker 1: and thousands of dollars early on 46:26 Speaker 1: when we were 1st kind of getting into this because 46:30 Speaker 1: we just did not want to waiver on quality 46:33 Speaker 1: and it hurts, 46:35 Speaker 1: but we did it. But 46:37 Speaker 1: we did it and we still would do it 46:40 Speaker 1: because the only thing that really matters is reputation 46:43 Speaker 1: and 46:44 Speaker 1: quality of product, and that's what everybody cares about. That's what should matter. So- 46:49 Speaker 1: We'll get it to complicate 46:51 Speaker 0: that, but that's kind of a we gotta, as you can imagine, somewhat be a little vague and skate around this blah blah blah, but, hopefully that answers your question, dude. 46:58 Speaker 0: Fair enough. Yep. 47:00 Speaker 1: And I think I would yeah. Message the company. See what they see what they say to you. They respond. Right? If they just tell you to f off or just don't respond, they're probably hiding something. 47:09 Speaker 1: You know, if they don't have they don't have faith of their own 47:12 Speaker 1: products, etcetera, you can kinda tell if they are shady or not. 47:16 Speaker 0: True that. Alright. I started peptides 3 months ago, 47:20 Speaker 0: overweight and tired. I think they meant because I was overweight and tired. It has changed my life to say the least. 12 year old son, this is a good 1. My 12 year old son has apraxia since birth. He didn't start speaking until age 6 or 7. He also 47:36 Speaker 0: a total walk. He's a total walker, 47:38 Speaker 0: which means he walks on his toes because his brain has trouble communicating 47:43 Speaker 0: with his body, hence why he didn't speak and has mobility issues. 47:47 Speaker 0: Just recently with his pediatrician, 47:50 Speaker 0: they referred us a doctor to give him Botox in his feet to help relieve the tension to help along with his stretching. 47:58 Speaker 0: He also has problems in certain areas of learning. So that being said, this question is a 2 parter. 48:05 Speaker 0: Should I put him on peptides for 1 and 2? What peptide should I put him on? Absolutely love the show 48:12 Speaker 0: and what you dudes are doing. You want me to jump on this? I got a little bit of Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead. So 48:17 Speaker 0: my wife, 48:18 Speaker 0: I had little glimpses of her all throughout my channels. She's amazing. She has a heart of gold. And 1 of the things she did 1st when I 1st 48:25 Speaker 0: married her, she was in school when I met her 48:28 Speaker 0: to do this, but she worked with young kids, man, and they had these types of issues walking on their toes and stuff like that. So got I a little bit of experience with that. 48:36 Speaker 0: 1 of the reasons, me in particular, 48:38 Speaker 0: I started the carnivore diet 5 years ago was I had an autoimmune issue and I was trying to figure out my head. And I was not the type of guy that wants to go to a doctor and take pills to fix a problem. I'm understanding that my gut was the problem. So I was doing a lot of research is the point of that. 48:55 Speaker 0: And I stumbled across a show that was dealing with kids that dealt with autism. I'm not saying your son has autism. I'm just talking about this, what came across. And the reason I say that is they 49:08 Speaker 0: were giving these children 49:11 Speaker 0: an extremely high fat diet, and I'm talking high fat to the degree where they were melting 49:17 Speaker 0: big bowls 49:18 Speaker 0: of coconut oil and pouring it all over their food. 49:21 Speaker 0: And I remember watching this and being so intrigued like, Woah, this is insane. Wow, I've never seen anybody eat that much fat. Here's the 49:29 Speaker 0: big cherry on top of the story. 49:31 Speaker 0: Their brain waves 49:33 Speaker 0: radically, 49:34 Speaker 0: radically improved. And I'm talking like these kids, some of them had like severe autism where they're banging their head against the wall, not talking. 49:41 Speaker 0: It didn't cure their autism by any means, but they radically improved. Some that weren't talking were attempting to talk, that were banging their hotheads were stopping to do that. And I was just so intrigued. I remember talking to my wife about it. That led to me 49:54 Speaker 0: starting to study high fat. And anybody that knows me, high fat, high protein is gonna get you ripped. That's where that all began, because 50:01 Speaker 0: high fat is what I think you should put your son on. Let's take the peptides out for a 2nd and leave those on the sidelines. 50:07 Speaker 0: Your son's young. You have time for that. I think that you start with diet. Lean1, what is your diet? If he's eating sugar and glucose, 50:14 Speaker 0: I didn't think that you need to cut that out. I know that's hard. I have a 4 year old and he wants sugar, dude. I get it. But if 50:21 Speaker 0: you want to help these problems, I truly, truly believe food can heal, whether it's fasting, whether it's food in general. I know Will agrees with this. Diet, diet, diet, diet is gonna be the answer almost always. Some people just don't eat enough. So for your son, try this, brother. I think it's Bill. Bill, try this. 50:37 Speaker 0: Cut out glucose, cut out sugars. By all means, cut the sugar out, dude. Your son shouldn't be eating sugar. You know, let's try this. Let's put him on a high fat diet and try to cut down the carbs and eat a lot of veggies. I know there's carbs of veggies, but veggies 50:52 Speaker 0: and 50:53 Speaker 0: high fat proteins 50:55 Speaker 0: and try to add some fat on. Like, try that. Milk, coconut oil, and pour it on your son's food. It's not gonna hurt him. So let's try it, man. And I would be happy to talk you through some of what I know about this. I know a lot about high fat. I've been doing it for 5 years. I've studied it. I know it. I've worked with a lot of men, getting them healthy on a high fat diet. So if you have me on social media, 51:16 Speaker 0: any of the channels, shoot me a DM. I'd be happy to help you with this. 51:21 Speaker 0: You know, and I can even talk with my bride about 51:23 Speaker 0: some of the stuff that she's done with kids, the toe walker and stuff like that. She's talked about it forever, so she knows a lot. 51:30 Speaker 0: Try that. So that's gonna be my answer, man. I know I blobbed a bit, but try a high fat diet. I'm gonna say put the, put the the peptides on the sidelines for now. Let's focus on diet. Yeah. 51:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. Very good answer. And and try to watch the movie Magic Pills, a documentary that goes over it follows different cultures and children 51:48 Speaker 1: who, 51:49 Speaker 1: yes, are having issues and puts everybody on a ketogenic diet and watches the amazing 51:54 Speaker 1: things, changes that happen. 51:57 Speaker 0: Well, it looks this. 51:59 Speaker 0: Think about the 1st thing that we eat. What is it? Breast milk. It's full of fat. Why? Because it develops our brain. So if we just like set and just think logically, God knows what he's doing. 52:09 Speaker 0: And why is our 1st thing we eat full of fat? Because it's extremely healthy and it develops our brain. So just try that, brother. And again, reach 52:17 Speaker 0: out to either of us. We love 52:19 Speaker 1: talking about this stuff and we can help you in any way we can, man. I mean, our brain has to, in order to get fuel, it has to convert our glucose into fat 1st, then it can eat the fat. So, 52:29 Speaker 1: that process slows the brain down. That's why people on keto diet, right, say that they have way higher mental 52:36 Speaker 1: clarity. Right? It's because your body doesn't have to do that do that conversion right there. You're just eating the fuel and it goes right to your brain. Cool. 52:44 Speaker 1: 2nd yeah, man. All of that. Okay. So here's another thing. My tattoo artist, 52:48 Speaker 1: his wife is a IFBB pro x, 52:52 Speaker 1: and she has always had a back issues. 52:56 Speaker 1: And he was I was getting tattooed yesterday, and he's like, yes. She gets she gets Botox injections in both of her traps 53:03 Speaker 1: because 53:04 Speaker 1: that helps relax those and, 53:07 Speaker 1: yes, promotes overall her back not hurting so dang bad. 53:13 Speaker 1: And so that's interesting. I had never heard that until 53:16 Speaker 1: last night and now you today. 53:19 Speaker 1: And this could be a great practical application for injection, SNAP-eight. 53:24 Speaker 0: Right? 53:25 Speaker 1: SNAP-eight 53:25 Speaker 1: is peptide basically that makes Botox Botox, but without all of the other crap that's in Botox. A lot of That's a great answer. You know, there's a lot of 53:34 Speaker 1: thought that Botox is just is really bad for you. Your brain, 53:39 Speaker 1: not just kind of not just your skin. Cool. Might make you look better now. But 53:46 Speaker 1: anyway, word of the wise, everybody, SNAP-eight 53:49 Speaker 1: to maybe reduce muscle tension. 53:52 Speaker 1: We'll think about it and do some research. 53:54 Speaker 1: Alright. Next, 53:56 Speaker 1: almost done. 53:57 Speaker 1: 1st of all, love the podcast and the message about health and fitness you guys push. I'm 35 trying to get as lean as possible and only put on lean muscle. K? My diet is locked in, and I'm doing push pull legs, split 5 days, 54:10 Speaker 1: cardio 2 days. 54:12 Speaker 1: Currently 54:13 Speaker 1: running test e, doing CJC Ipamorelin, 54:16 Speaker 1: and also Tesamorelin 54:18 Speaker 1: at night. Retta, MOTS-1C, just finished AOD and 5Amino having 4 weeks of those and will run them again. 54:26 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about adding 2 IUs of HGH in the morning, so I'm wondering if I should wait till I'm older. 54:32 Speaker 1: Or if I do the 2 IUs, will the CJC, 54:35 Speaker 1: IpA, and Tesa 54:36 Speaker 1: still have a good effect? Appreciate your thoughts. And you are 35. 54:43 Speaker 1: My worry is not not so much worry, but 54:47 Speaker 1: tells me that, gosh, you know, growth really, really starts to work. 54:51 Speaker 1: I in my brain, I have it at about, you know, a 40 year old because 54:56 Speaker 1: but at that point is when men's, you know, IGF levels and our growth hormone is really starting to lower. And therefore, if we're supplementing with it, we really start to see effects. Try to tell, you know, 20 55:07 Speaker 1: year old men who want to do growth, don't even bother, dude. Your growth hormone's fine. So 55:13 Speaker 1: for you, 1st of all, I think it is 55:16 Speaker 1: redundant to take CJC 55:18 Speaker 1: and Tesamorelin. 55:19 Speaker 1: Okay? Though I would say, Hey, man, do CJC IPA or 55:25 Speaker 1: Ipatella. 55:27 Speaker 1: K? Not add Tessa on top. 55:29 Speaker 1: I think that it is up to you, but if those are working well for you, if the CGC IpA has been working, that means that your growth hormone levels were poly deficient and the HGH probably will work really good for you. So I'm not worried about, like, effects because you're taking it too early and now this is gonna be bad for you. That's not really what worries me much. What worries me is, hey. Are you wasting your money, 55:52 Speaker 1: because your IGF-one levels are awesome, and do you really need it? So answer would be go get a blood test, see what your IGF-one levels are. Okay? If they are straight optimal, then don't bother. Don't start the HGH. 56:04 Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah. That's all I got. 56:07 Speaker 0: I 56:08 Speaker 0: Yeah, he doesn't say, I'm assuming that if you're on TRT and I'm assuming that's why you're taking the test E, you have done your blood work lately, so I hope that you did. 56:16 Speaker 0: So you might even be able to kind of track some of that stuff, 56:19 Speaker 0: but I think Will's right. I mean, anything that most things that you're gonna take, if it's fat burners, AOD, any type of secreted cog, 56:26 Speaker 0: we're going to suggest you do it at a minimum 90 days, probably a 4 month increment would be good. So I think you're saying that you'd taken the 5Amino and the AOD for 4 weeks, definitely run those longer. 56:37 Speaker 0: You haven't even let them fly yet. So like run those longer and let them do what they do. I mean, we are so 56:43 Speaker 0: used to wanting things right now. And especially if you do Retta, you might get a little of that touch of getting instant gratification because Retta is the 1 peptide that a lot of people will feel that instantly, but the other ones are going to take time to come into effect. Now, let's add in the HGH, as you said, takes a long time. That is the 1 that is amazing, 57:03 Speaker 0: but you won't even see it fly until 6 months, literally. But then when 57:07 Speaker 0: it hits his wings, man, HGH is amazing, dude, it really is. And my thing is testosterone replacement and HGH together 57:14 Speaker 0: are gold. 57:15 Speaker 0: 35s a little young, but I've worked with a lot of men and had a lot of blood work done with them. And 57:21 Speaker 0: I was blown away by seeing how low testosterone levels were for when if they're 35s. Just, 57:29 Speaker 0: I didn't even know until I started seeing it, man. I, it's an epidemic out there. So that being said, I think some of the problem is going on too with the HGH and whatnot too. But as Will said, get your blood work, man. Start there. Then you can see 35 is I could go either way. If you're at 40, I would say definitely throw on the HGH. 35s 57:47 Speaker 0: get your blood work done 1st type thing. And on the other ones, run them longer. Don't mix 2 secretagogues, 57:55 Speaker 0: take out the CJC, 57:57 Speaker 0: keep in the Tessa, 57:59 Speaker 0: HIPAA, and running the HGH, those 2 together will do a little bit better, but not 2 secretagogs, man. You don't need it. It's redundant. 58:05 Speaker 1: Yes. 58:08 Speaker 1: Right. 58:10 Speaker 1: Not not 2 of the same. Don't not 2 GHRHPs. 58:14 Speaker 1: Not 2 GHRP. 58:16 Speaker 0: Like, yeah, like, Tesof-1MQ, BPC-1MQ. 58:19 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. Control. Alright. Cool. You're up. Read it. Take us home. Last 1. Alright. We got just bought AOD-96.04 58:28 Speaker 0: and 5AME to 1MQ. 58:30 Speaker 0: Want to ask you guys about this combination. If it was good to stack them both and how should I run them? I lost 46 pounds. Awesome. Already trying to lose more weight and get leaner. 58:43 Speaker 0: I'm on TRT already running 7.7 58:46 Speaker 0: mills every 7 days. Big fan of you guys. I follow your current, your content, 58:51 Speaker 0: and this 58:53 Speaker 0: will be my 1st time to peptides. Thanks. 1st off, thank you for that. Yeah, you can run those together, absolutely. Again, what's your objective? I'm assuming it's gonna be more fat and you're trying to lose weight. So both of those will help. AOD 59:06 Speaker 0: is amazing. It is definitely, definitely, definitely 1 of my personal favorites. 59:11 Speaker 0: I run 5O-5MQ, 59:13 Speaker 0: those 59:14 Speaker 0: 2 together all the time. So to answer your question, should you do it? Yeah, run it. You 59:19 Speaker 0: don't mention Retta or Entrutide in there, GLP-three. 59:23 Speaker 0: So 59:24 Speaker 0: I would definitely 59:26 Speaker 0: do that. I would even throw the other 2 out and then start with that if you can do can afford all 3. 59:32 Speaker 0: If your objective is to lose weight, there you go, dude. That will light a fire in your Hey, Retta. So, 59:37 Speaker 1: JD, what dose do you do with AOD? 59:41 Speaker 0: I do 59:42 Speaker 0: 20 59:43 Speaker 1: units in the morning. That's like okay. So you do like that's probably 1 mg. 59:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right? I do lots. Yeah. 59:51 Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, AOD is great, man. And it just literally 59:55 Speaker 0: mean, Will knows this. He has 1 job. 59:57 Speaker 0: 1 job. And what is that job? Burn fat. 1:00:00 Speaker 0: It just burns fat. It literally 1:00:03 Speaker 0: AOD and Retatrutide for men 1:00:05 Speaker 0: is a freaking it's a gold mine. Reta, there's nothing that's gonna come close to Reta, but you add AOD on top, dude, and you're literally like lighting a fire 1:00:14 Speaker 0: under your fat dude. So throw in Reta big dog, try that, and you can throw in the 5 amino as well if you had to choose 2 AOD and the Retta. So so hold on. I'm just I wanna make sure I'm not telling people wrong things. So you have you have AOD 1:00:27 Speaker 1: of 5 mg. You add how much water? 1:00:30 Speaker 1: 2.5 mix? I do. 2.5. 1:00:33 Speaker 1: Mils ml. 1:00:34 Speaker 1: Sorry, folks. 2 mils. So I and it's only 5 and it's 5 thou well, it's 5000 micrograms. It's 5 mg AOD. 1:00:43 Speaker 0: Yes. So 1:00:45 Speaker 1: you do in units. Yeah, 1:00:49 Speaker 1: you're doing 20 units. That's 401 1:00:52 Speaker 0: minute, a 1 1:00:54 Speaker 1: Okay. 1:00:55 Speaker 1: No, that's- That 101 1:00:57 Speaker 1: full mg. You're right. You're doing 1 full mg total. 1:01:00 Speaker 0: Total total. 1:01:01 Speaker 1: Because 1:01:02 Speaker 1: yeah. So just to make sure everybody, I don't want you 20 units is 500 micrograms. 1:01:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1:01:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1:01:12 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. I'm sorry. I think it's 400, but 1:01:15 Speaker 1: close enough. Really, when we're talking 405 hundred micrograms folks, there's 1:01:19 Speaker 1: not much of a difference at all. Okay. 1:01:22 Speaker 1: I would say that's a good dose and the 5m2, 1:01:26 Speaker 1: would say 500 1:01:27 Speaker 1: to 7 50 1:01:29 Speaker 1: micrograms 1:01:31 Speaker 1: daily. 1:01:32 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. 1:01:35 Speaker 1: I 1:01:36 Speaker 1: I am a fan of doing testosterone more frequently, not just once a week. You know, you might actually find that the effects 1:01:43 Speaker 1: are the same because it is a long ester and it does compound on itself. 1:01:49 Speaker 1: But the once a week plan does 1:01:52 Speaker 1: could lead to, 1:01:53 Speaker 1: just more, hormonal changes, a little bit higher. 1:01:57 Speaker 1: Estrogen because you're getting this 1 big blast of testosterone 1:02:01 Speaker 1: and not not just equally. Name of the game is equal. But here's the deal. If you're not having any problems 1:02:07 Speaker 1: and life is good, then keep doing what you're doing. 1:02:10 Speaker 1: K? If you're having estrogenic problems and that's still a pretty darn low dose, 1:02:16 Speaker 1: then just keep doing what's working. Alright? 1:02:19 Speaker 1: And good for you for losing you say you lost 46 1:02:23 Speaker 1: pounds? Yeah. Shit. Good job. 1:02:26 Speaker 1: Keep kicking ass. Oh, I do wanna say this. You've lost 46 pounds. So 1:02:30 Speaker 1: you've probably inevitably 1:02:32 Speaker 1: lost a lot of fat and probably a good amount of muscle. And my guess is that you are plateauing, which is why you're trying turning to peptides. 1:02:40 Speaker 1: So most people when we see, hey, they lose a bunch of weight, that's awesome, right? But then it starts to plateau. Well, why? Because you have lost too much muscle 1:02:49 Speaker 1: and with the 1:02:52 Speaker 1: less muscle we have, the slower your metabolism is. So 1:02:56 Speaker 1: step 1 is do whatever he said. You can absolutely take these, but you need to be lifting weights and eating protein and increasing your muscle, your lean muscle, right? We just want you to add perfectly muscled watch. 1:03:10 Speaker 1: You feel, you know, can't burn fat. Now we add muscle and now that fat's gonna just melt right off of you. Okay? 1:03:16 Speaker 0: So I, that's all I know. Circling back around and just kind of ending it because that was the last question. I mean, I don't think we've focused on this enough, unless in on this where peptides are great, we love them. We talk about them. We have a peptide podcast. We are huge advocates of eating and food and diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet. I mean, you you're taking red and eating chips and like crap. 1:03:36 Speaker 0: I mean, really kind of helps with that stuff, but that's what you're doing, man. Like, the whole objective is to live a healthy lifestyle. It's to change your lifestyle 1:03:44 Speaker 0: so that you live longer and that you live healthier and so you have more energy and that stems from diet. 1:03:51 Speaker 0: Peptides will help, kind of similar to the TRT, man. Like, this all comes into a bucket and when you get your life in line with your diet, your exercise routine, your 1:04:00 Speaker 0: peptides and your supplements, if you get those all in line, man, you can age well, you can feel amazing. I'm 48 and probably felt better than when I was 28. 1:04:09 Speaker 0: Gotta work out. Yep. These 1:04:10 Speaker 1: are like health optimizers, 1:04:13 Speaker 1: right? So like 1:04:14 Speaker 1: get healthy, 1:04:15 Speaker 1: right? 1:04:16 Speaker 1: This is gonna help just really optimize that. This is not gonna be the answer to, 1:04:21 Speaker 1: you know, with no habits and terribly out of shape, Oh, just take peptides and then I'll be cured of all this stuff. No, no, no. It does not work like that. 1:04:30 Speaker 0: So 1:04:31 Speaker 1: all that hard work, guys, and nobody's I mean, they call it there's a phrase, like diet and exercise for a reason. Crazy. 1:04:38 Speaker 0: Too bad, baby. Cool, man. Well, that was cool. 1st episode here at the office. I felt a little weird, but 1:04:45 Speaker 0: I'm excited for what's coming. You guys have been amazing for helping this podcast grow. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And soon you will be sitting us, seeing us sit in the same room with some professional stuff going on. We're gonna elevate because you guys 1:04:58 Speaker 0: have been amazing to us. So we're gonna try to give you a better show. Absolutely. Get some good guests on. Continue to have good guests on maybe recurring appearances month to month, and you'll get to see us, I don't know. Yeah. Show some more personality and not just be 2 talking heads on screen. I got a question. Will and I always talk about this stuff. Let's throw this out there and get some DMs and stuff. How did you guys like Doctor. Scott Cauley? 1:05:19 Speaker 0: We're thinking about having him on maybe once a month, something like that. He's a good friend of ours, and he's a smart dude. So shoot us some DMs if you saw that episode and just give us some feedback on that. Other than that, we got to get to work. Anything else before we close this out? Nothing. All right, my friends. We will catch you on the flip side later.