Peptide Q&A #1 Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-1/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast 0:05 Speaker 0: Q and A 0:07 Speaker 0: Division. 0:08 Speaker 0: This 0:10 Speaker 0: is the 1st 0:11 Speaker 0: Q and A that 0:13 Speaker 0: Will and I will be doing. We are excited about it. 0:17 Speaker 0: For the 1st time just opened up the questions. We did not go through them. We want to have very organic, 0:22 Speaker 0: pure answers to these questions 0:24 Speaker 0: and pretty stoked on some of the questions you guys asked. So it's just starting off well. 0:30 Speaker 0: So I'm your host JD Denham. Across the way is my business partner and buddy, mister William T. Haus. Welcome to the show, my friend. What's going on? 0:41 Speaker 1: It's Friday. 0:42 Speaker 1: So that's what makes me happy. I already worked out, so, you know, 0:47 Speaker 1: that's done, 0:48 Speaker 1: which is, like, the best part of the day actually after the end of the workout. 0:52 Speaker 1: Always. When it feels best. But I don't know, dude. Life's good. It's hot outside. It's perfectly sunny like it is always here. 0:59 Speaker 1: Life is fun, man. These questions are cool. These are legitimate 1:04 Speaker 0: questions. Yeah. We got some huge followers, dude. They're intrigued. 1:10 Speaker 0: Intrigued and they're asking some good questions, man. I mean peptides are 1:15 Speaker 0: blown up for good reason, man. I mean so many people are intrigued by them. By these questions you can tell that people are asking the right questions. 1:23 Speaker 0: I'm excited. Yeah, this is our 1st Friday. Our goal is to record every Friday. Obviously that will change sometimes because we are humans and sometimes you're gonna have to bob and weave around life, but every Friday the plan is to 1:37 Speaker 0: record the q and a, and we should be dropping it every Saturday after it's edited. And I think it's gonna go great. I'm excited about it. Yep. And hopefully, like, people listen and 1:49 Speaker 0: understand the answers, and this helps them. Yeah, man. Well, you're gonna always have a lot of the same questions. I mean, I I've got some inside viewpoint about just because of the end, but a lot of my content that I make these days are contingent upon, gosh, if I get 5 or 6 of the same questions, I make it real on it. So this will be kind of similar 2:08 Speaker 0: that people are asking this, you know, certain types of questions, 2:13 Speaker 0: you know, but now they have some direct contact to us to where we can answer some of the stuff if they, if we miss them in a comment or DMs and whatnot. So I'm excited, this is gonna be cool. This is gonna be cool. So we will start off with all of it. Let me start off with the 1st 1 ever. 2:28 Speaker 0: Here we go, Will. 2:30 Speaker 0: Is it better to inject 2:32 Speaker 0: Retta 2:33 Speaker 0: GLP 3, right, 1 time a week or twice a week with split dose? Great question. Alright. I will start. 2:43 Speaker 1: Well, as we know that all of these GLP ones came out with 2:48 Speaker 1: the 2:49 Speaker 1: actual recommendation 2:50 Speaker 1: of doing 1 2:52 Speaker 1: injection a week. Okay? You see that a lot with other things that involve injections because it's more palatable 2:59 Speaker 1: for the normal person. 3:02 Speaker 1: They will use the drug more 3:04 Speaker 1: if they only have to inject themselves 1 time a week. Right? 3:09 Speaker 1: Regardless if that is the best way to do it or not Yeah. They will sell more product 3:15 Speaker 1: if people 3:16 Speaker 1: don't have to inject themselves. And I and I get it, like, nobody likes stabbing themselves. 3:21 Speaker 1: So but 3:23 Speaker 1: the I mean, just basically through experience, you know, I I've seen it through experience through tons and tons, thousands of people giving me feedback. It is better to do it more frequently. 3:33 Speaker 1: We're not saying double the dose. I'm not saying like, hey, do the same amount Yeah. That you would in 1 week Hyperdose. Tell us do it twice. Right? No. So whatever you you would do in a month or, I mean, in a week, right, divide that by however many times. I generally 3:49 Speaker 1: say I think that 3 times a week is the best 1 best way to go, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 3:55 Speaker 1: so I don't forget. 3:57 Speaker 1: If I say every other day, I will literally forget what I did yesterday. But if I set a schedule and I guess that we came to that conclusion because we would hear from a lot of people, this is, I mean, starting starting back with 4:09 Speaker 1: Semaglutide. Semaglutide. Right? And then indotrazepatide 4:12 Speaker 1: and and etcetera, 4:14 Speaker 1: People are saying, hey, I do do my injection 4:17 Speaker 1: by on a Monday, by Thursday. 4:20 Speaker 1: Now I start getting some appetite back. Right? So 4:24 Speaker 1: if we look at it as a graph, right, it's gonna be the most it's gonna be in here the most. Usually, honestly, I feel like it peaks like the next day, 4:32 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna rapidly kind of burn out of you over a few days. And so 4:36 Speaker 1: also with Retatr, like, it is burning fat. It is not just 4:41 Speaker 1: just, you know, killing your appetite. It is burning fat. And therefore, 4:45 Speaker 1: why do you Letty. Why not have, 4:48 Speaker 1: you know, 7 days a week of burning fat rather than 4 days a Right. 1 big spike. 4:54 Speaker 1: And so so it's I would do it. I would split it. 4:59 Speaker 1: Also, for those, let's say, past ones, right, semaglutide, 5:03 Speaker 1: tirzepatide that made people nauseous, 5:06 Speaker 1: what do you think you'll be more nauseous of? Like, a big dose or or or 2 doses? Some of glutathione. 5:12 Speaker 1: Right? 5:13 Speaker 1: Like, it will help with your side effects, your nausea side effects if you inject 5:18 Speaker 1: less 5:19 Speaker 1: amount and more frequently. 5:22 Speaker 0: Yeah, so we're talking about GLP-1s 5:24 Speaker 0: right now, right? But we've been talking 5:27 Speaker 0: about testosterone 5:28 Speaker 0: replacement for a long time, and anybody that's been in the game long as we have know 5:34 Speaker 0: that, 5:35 Speaker 0: micro dosing throughout the week is always gonna do you better. 5:39 Speaker 0: Everybody's gonna get sick of pinning. It's gonna be contingent upon, 5:43 Speaker 0: but if you do micro dosing, you're gonna keep those levels 5:47 Speaker 0: instead of 1 huge spike on Monday. You know, is it that big of a difference? It's not gonna be that big of a difference, but the smarter way, the way it's gonna work the best, which is everybody's goal to get your, 5:59 Speaker 0: to feel the best for it to work the best is to do it the best 6:04 Speaker 0: proper way to get the best bang for your buck. Yep. Yep. You know what I Yeah. Especially with testosterone, especially with that, like, we're really, really kind of modifying your hormones. Right? Name of the game is 6:15 Speaker 0: level hormones because every hormone is predicated on 6:19 Speaker 0: another thing, you know? So like, hey, if you have an estrogen problems, 6:24 Speaker 0: maybe and you're only injecting once a week, right? It's because you're boosting your testosterone. Right. Now your testosterone is spiking up your estrogen. That's if we can even in the long esters, right, and this is and it's the same reason that like all doctors, well, The US prescribe to sipunate, 6:40 Speaker 0: all doctors in Europe 6:42 Speaker 0: or in the rest of the world generally prescribe 6:45 Speaker 0: Enin Fate. Both of them are long esters. And with an active 0.5 life, it's debatable. Let's just call them 7 days. Those 2 esters are Right. Like identical, so there's no real difference Right. Those 2. 6:58 Speaker 1: But 7:00 Speaker 1: at 7 days, right, the act active 0.5 life, I'm gonna say it's completely gone, but at 7 days up here, by day 7 is gone, we do not ever want to completely run out hormone in your body. Right? 7:13 Speaker 1: And so if even though you only really would say, hey. You really should go twice a week, the best option is to do every day. That will keep you there. Absolute. 7:22 Speaker 0: And do you and just so people know, you can. You can microdose it every single day. Right? I mean, you wanna do it. It doesn't mean you wanna like quadruple 7:30 Speaker 0: the dose of the week. You break it down, microdosed over, you know, 7:35 Speaker 0: divided by 7, obviously, duh. But that would be probably the best, but who wants to pen 7 days a week? I mean, you can, I don't want to pin? It's easy math, man. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We've talked with so many people at this point. People that start off doing it 1 time a time a week, right? Especially Semaglutide. 7:54 Speaker 0: Oh, God, man. A big dose of Semaglutide. Oh, you're gonna not feel well after that shot, man. 8:00 Speaker 0: But Retatrutide in in general, man. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I think will do anybody perfectly. Yep. 8:06 Speaker 1: Eat that. Alright. I'll read the next 1. 8:11 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you wanna how are you supposed to safely inject them? 8:18 Speaker 0: Go ahead. Do you wanna give me a little answer? Up to you, Mylene, is we're we're gonna do it. You know? We're gonna paint dry flat. 8:26 Speaker 0: We're gonna poke that little guy right here, 8:28 Speaker 0: and that's the best way that it's gonna work for most people. 8:32 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Sub q. So sub sub q stands for subcutaneous. 8:36 Speaker 1: Right? Like, on our body, we have our dermis, which is our skin. 8:41 Speaker 1: K? 8:44 Speaker 1: Underneath 8:45 Speaker 1: that, we have this layer of water. So when people say I'm bloated, right, it's because they're retaining water in that layer of water. Right? That's may that's your that's your subcutaneous. Like and 8:56 Speaker 1: it 8:58 Speaker 1: it is 9:00 Speaker 1: that can go up and down, but that's kind of what we're aiming for. Now your fat is well, I should your fat is 9:08 Speaker 1: is right there. So if you basically and your some people have 9:12 Speaker 1: so much fat. Right? You're not gonna get it into just that water layer. K? 9:16 Speaker 1: So 9:17 Speaker 1: they do say generally, like, around your belly button about somewhere around 2 inches away. So you grab a little bit further, but it doesn't matter, dude. You've been doing this for a long time just fine and just safe. 9:28 Speaker 1: But, yeah, pinch it, kinda pull it up, and so it makes a little gap. Right? And you're shooting through that gap. What you don't wanna do is 9:36 Speaker 1: not put the needle deep enough. 9:39 Speaker 1: If you get, like, a little welt, it's probably you didn't go deep enough, 9:43 Speaker 1: and 9:45 Speaker 0: it's pretty straightforward. And, like, there will be you might get a little bruise. Like, if you hit a little Sometimes it's just gonna happen. Like, you know, it it and it's not gonna happen on every time and every 1 because for some reason, you just might jab it a little differently. Sometimes you're just gonna get a little poke, and it might sting a little bit. You know what mean? Yep. Don't go so deep that it goes into your muscle. 10:06 Speaker 1: You don't want that. But that's your sub q layer. And, look, your sub Q, that can be done anywhere. Right? If you have a different compound like BPC, 10:13 Speaker 1: you can pull right here and still put it in your SubQ 10:17 Speaker 1: layer, right, in your elbow. But for the most part, right here, belly is easiest way. It's just easy access for everybody to do it themselves. Especially if you're brand new and starting it off. And I mean I mean, we we live in an 10:29 Speaker 0: we live in a day and age where you can see a video on anything. Just go on to YouTube and just type it in. Somebody will show you how to do it. Right. So, yeah, here's the answer. You can go find that. What happens when you stop running Tesamorelin? 10:42 Speaker 0: Do you go back? Are peptides 10:44 Speaker 0: just short term solutions? Few questions than that, but what happens when you stop running Tesamorelin? 10:52 Speaker 1: So Tesamorelin is an HGH secretagogue, so it is me telling your body to 10:58 Speaker 1: just through a complex different way, but it's telling your body to create more human growth hormones. So 11:04 Speaker 1: it that is not a permanent effect. 11:08 Speaker 1: While your body is making more growth hormone, 11:12 Speaker 1: you are getting the benefits, right? You are able to 11:15 Speaker 1: build muscle a bit easier. Your metabolism 11:17 Speaker 1: is faster, right? It's gonna help rejuvenate your skin a bit. Right? It's gonna help healing. Everything is gonna heal 11:24 Speaker 1: heal better, and that is from a, 11:27 Speaker 1: like, microscopic terms in in your skin and in your in your face, 11:33 Speaker 1: skin, everywhere to even if you have a wound and you cut yourself, you'll heal a little bit faster. 11:37 Speaker 1: When you stop 11:39 Speaker 1: taking 11:40 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin, 11:41 Speaker 1: your body will now start 11:44 Speaker 1: working the way it did before you started using the Tesamorelin. There is no 11:49 Speaker 1: unlike testosterone 11:50 Speaker 1: or a lot of things that are actually 11:53 Speaker 1: introducing 11:54 Speaker 1: the real hormone Hormone. Is a letdown. Right? If you do testosterone 12:00 Speaker 1: and then stop, 12:02 Speaker 1: You don't just go back to where you were before you started. You go back to negative. 12:07 Speaker 0: Yeah. Right? 12:08 Speaker 1: Doing Tesamorelin is you know, most of these peptide well, pretty much all all the peptides. I can't think of any of the 12:15 Speaker 1: you that had you go you go negative. Right? But you go back to where you were now, but it also doesn't mean all of those gains that you did get and all those benefits that occurred, 12:26 Speaker 1: you don't lose them. 12:29 Speaker 1: That muscle you gained, it's a that fat you burned 12:33 Speaker 1: stays where it is. 12:35 Speaker 1: As long as you keep eating right. As long as you keep doing things the right way. Right? 12:39 Speaker 0: The last part is what are peptides just short term solutions? It's kinda contingent. I mean, solutions for what? You know? Yeah. Depends. Yeah. 12:47 Speaker 0: You want the next 1? 0, yeah. Sure. Sorry. 12:50 Speaker 1: Do you have information on dosage for DSIP? 12:54 Speaker 1: Yes. I guess we do. DSIP is it stands for delta sleep inducing peptide. 13:01 Speaker 1: I would personally 13:03 Speaker 1: add 13:04 Speaker 1: add 13:05 Speaker 1: 1 mil of water 13:07 Speaker 1: and inject 5 or 10 units about an hour before sleep. 13:12 Speaker 1: K? 13:14 Speaker 1: And 13:15 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. There's my dosing. 13:18 Speaker 0: Same math would be so he says 1 milli water at 0.5, 13:21 Speaker 0: and I would do 2 milli water at 10. You know? Same same math. Same same same stuff. 13:27 Speaker 1: Same answer. You also, those of you curious about that type of thing, like, oh, no. Do I need to add 13:32 Speaker 1: 2 mils of water and then add 10, or should I or I should I because I only put 1 it's the same thing. There's no difference, guys. Right. It's however you want, dude. However whatever makes the math easiest for you. Right. 13:44 Speaker 1: The only difference on that 1 is if you have something that's a really high dose, like, let's call NAD 1000. Right? If you put 1 mil of water in, that's just there's just too much of 13:56 Speaker 1: the actual too much powder to actually 13:59 Speaker 1: mix. So as long as you work. As long as with the water you put in 14:03 Speaker 1: and it mixes perfectly clear, 14:06 Speaker 1: cool, then it's just a math problem, and you figure it out. Yeah. I what I try to do personally, 14:13 Speaker 0: just to keep it simple math in my head, I you take a lot of different peptides, but I do the math to where I take 10 units. So I do the math in regards to how many mls I add contingent upon what it would be to work out to take 10 units. Because then I just know I take 10 units of each 1. 14:30 Speaker 0: You know I mean? You'll have to do the math, but you know, there's different websites out there and the peptide research that this guy's talking about. I've seen it, so it has that stuff on there that can help you kind of figure out the math. That's what I do. It really keeps it simple for me. I do it to the degree where I take 10 units of everything. Yep. 14:46 Speaker 0: That's smart. Yep. 14:48 Speaker 0: How long should you run Retatrutide? 14:52 Speaker 1: Also, what happens when you stop? Good question. Alright. That's a that's a very valid question. Think this is so new that, 15:01 Speaker 1: you know, there is no long term data, although it's not very complex. 18 months is really what they've been studying it. Right? 18 months is what the I data they 15:10 Speaker 0: think that doctors 15:13 Speaker 1: have been 15:14 Speaker 1: I know people who have been on, through a doctor's supervision, on semaglutide, 15:18 Speaker 1: tirzepatide for 4 years right now. Right? 15:22 Speaker 1: So there's nothing that says, I mean, as far as I know, again, I'm not a doctor, I have seen people be on this long term. 15:29 Speaker 1: I think that, I personally think, the best way to take this is 15:34 Speaker 1: is to take it long enough to where you build good habits. Right? Like, the goal is to use this as a crutch, not a not a complete, like, motorized wheelchair. 15:44 Speaker 0: Yeah. 15:45 Speaker 1: But 15:46 Speaker 1: take it for a long time to where you, hey, you get your results. Right? The goal is to take is to don't and also don't take as much as you can at the beginning. Right? Let your tolerance work for you. Take a little bit It of goes a long way. Right? You can slowly bump up. You'll save money that way too. But, you know, take it if you need to take it for 3, 4 months, great, until you get to your goal, 16:08 Speaker 1: awesome. If you need take it for a year, okay. Cool. 16:11 Speaker 0: Yep. I agree with that. But 16:13 Speaker 1: then there comes a point in time where it's like, let's not let's try to not take this. Right? Yeah. If we're taking it, take a month off and see how your body adapts and then take it again. You you can kinda work a little better because you're giving a little bit of time of a break. But You know? The big problem is on your metabolism. Our metabolism will speed up or slow down to the kind of amount of the calories that we're taking in. So if you are taking a lot and you're eating very, very little, your metabolism now is slowing down. Okay? Yeah. So now you've built your body to have a very slow metabolism. 16:47 Speaker 1: If you stop taking Thoretta and you all of a sudden get an appetite and 16:51 Speaker 1: now you start eating fucking, like, 5 meals a day Yeah. 16:55 Speaker 1: Your metabolism is slow, and all that weight is gonna come rushing back. Right. I mean, it's a classic, like, crash diet. So what I would say is when you do come off, taper your way down 17:05 Speaker 1: and maintain your good habits that you've learned. Right? Institute a little bit of no skills as as, you know, don't don't flood yourself with overwhelming hunger. Right? Let's just give yourself a little bit of hunger, you know, incrementally 17:18 Speaker 1: and practice 17:19 Speaker 1: being able to restrain yourself. 17:22 Speaker 1: And before you'll know it, just taper off. And before you know it, you'll be fine, and there will be no negative consequences. 17:27 Speaker 0: Because here's the goal. Right? Retrutide, 17:30 Speaker 0: GLP-three is the objective is not to take it so you can eat like shit. 17:35 Speaker 0: Right? Like, just be smart. Like, this is a lifestyle that we're trying to generate. For example, people that take testosterone replacement 17:43 Speaker 0: in longevity, right? You don't keep increasing and increasing and increasing and increasing it. You just learn to live at it. You need to learn a sweet spot. You know, for me, I've said it numerous times. For me, it's 180 mg a week and that works well for me, but there's a lot of trial and error that is coming now, right? So for people with Retin Tutide, 18:02 Speaker 0: don't keep raising it and raising it and raising it so you can eat like shit. You know what I mean? Like, be smart. Like, the objective is to make a lifestyle to where you eat good and you start changing your habits. This is not it's not it's a crutch to help you. It'll burn fat. 18:18 Speaker 0: But again, it always goes with exercise 18:21 Speaker 0: and eating well. 18:24 Speaker 0: You know what I mean? Like that is hugely important. So can 18:27 Speaker 0: I mix L Carnitine, 18:29 Speaker 0: Sermorelin, NAD, 18:31 Speaker 0: HCG, 18:32 Speaker 0: the curveball, 18:33 Speaker 0: so I only have to do it in 1 injection? I think you and I might have a different answer on this, so you go 1st. 18:40 Speaker 1: Well, 18:42 Speaker 1: so 1st problem well, 18:44 Speaker 1: so they are all 18:46 Speaker 1: water based. 18:47 Speaker 1: A, 18:48 Speaker 1: you don't ever want to mix in the same syringe 18:52 Speaker 1: things that are like oil based and water based. Ever. K? That's dumb. 18:56 Speaker 1: They are all water based. The issue is l carnitine 19:00 Speaker 1: really needs to be injected 19:03 Speaker 1: intramuscularly. 19:04 Speaker 0: Okay? So 19:06 Speaker 1: and deep 19:07 Speaker 1: intramuscularly. 19:09 Speaker 1: The others 19:11 Speaker 1: I suppose can, you know, hey, know people with HCG and NAD that introduce that inject them intramuscularly. I think they're better sub q. 19:20 Speaker 1: They also like, you gotta think, if you're gonna go sub q, 19:25 Speaker 1: you gotta not put a whole bunch of liquid in you. 19:28 Speaker 0: And L carnitine's 1 mil, so that's 1 mil. That's a little that's 19:33 Speaker 1: that's a lot to put SubQ. 19:35 Speaker 1: Oh. I don't think 19:37 Speaker 1: so the next part is, 19:39 Speaker 1: can you? I'm not quite sure. 19:42 Speaker 1: So they are theoretically, 19:44 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the best idea, but 19:47 Speaker 1: you could because they're all water based, but some peptides, I've done this myself. I understand, dude, whoever asked this, I am with you. 19:54 Speaker 1: If you if I have 6 peptides I'm trying to inject, I don't really wanna do 6 different injections. 19:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have plenty of times, 20:02 Speaker 1: you know, just pull a little bit here, right, bottle 2, bottle 1, and it's been perfect. Right? Nothing has been you just look at look at the dang syringe, 20:11 Speaker 1: and it should stay clear. Then all of a sudden when I pulled 1 1 other peptide, boom, it just went cloudy, 20:17 Speaker 1: milky. It looked like there was, like, strands sitting in there. So 20:21 Speaker 1: and I wish I knew and remembered exactly what that 1 peptide was that I pulled that did not do well with the others, but Yeah. Not all of them will mix well with each other doing that. I guess the basis is, hey, man. If you could still look at that syringe and it's perfectly clear, 20:38 Speaker 1: go ahead. 20:41 Speaker 0: But, yeah, that concludes. Here's my answer on that, because I I've I've done a little quite a bit of research and just on my own self. 20:49 Speaker 0: 1st, I would never mix L carnitine with anything. It's 1 mil and I'm not mixing that in my stomach. I'm not hitting my stomach with that. No way. So I do L carnitine. I kinda go off and on because it's just 1 mil of anything's a lot, so I go on and off with L carnitine. Great peptide, just I don't mix it with anything. 21:07 Speaker 0: Sermorelin NAD, I definitely would. 21:09 Speaker 0: HCG, 21:10 Speaker 0: probably not because it's just such a different type of a peptide. I try to keep the peptides that are somewhat similar 21:18 Speaker 0: together. Now Will was saying how he pulls a little on each. 21:21 Speaker 0: To me, that will dull the needle. So what I do, and I've done videos on on my Instagram, I take an empty bottle, okay, empty bottle. If I'm doing 5 peptides, hypothetically, right, empty bottle, 21:33 Speaker 0: I'm using the same syringe, 21:35 Speaker 0: pulling out 10 units 21:37 Speaker 0: in the bottle, 10 units in the bottle, 10 units in the bottle. So I'm not mixing them. 21:43 Speaker 0: So then I have, know, basically 50 units of 5 different peptides. 21:48 Speaker 0: Now I take a brand new needle, 21:50 Speaker 0: brand new needle, 1 shot, not a dull needle, right sub q, 5 peptides, 1 shot. 21:56 Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. That's a good idea if you're a wuss and you can't handle just a little bit of what you know. CJ. So, like, that's, yeah, that that's a smart idea. The 1 thing to worry about people is a lot of these peptides are very fragile. Right? This is why we don't mix them and shake them. Right? This is why you when you do add water, you aim that thing for the side glass, and you just don't jam the water in there. Right? So when you are drawing and squirting back in there, don't do that real fast. Right? Don't draw. Just squirt 22:25 Speaker 1: it in. Right? You still you kinda want you want to handle that Draw out. Each peptide gently. 22:31 Speaker 1: So as you're putting it back in your bottle, just be gentle. Don't don't be rough with it. How much difference 22:36 Speaker 1: that makes, 22:38 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but that's what it says on paper that 22:42 Speaker 1: Right. That's why we don't shake them, etcetera. 22:45 Speaker 0: Alright. I'm a 54 year old on TRT. I have been reading up on Cinnarelin. 22:51 Speaker 0: Do you think it's a good peptide to aid the TRT? 22:57 Speaker 0: Good question. 22:58 Speaker 0: Yeah, I do. I think Cinnarelin's great. I think TRT, most men, my experience with TRT, and I talk about it often, 23:06 Speaker 0: I have had a lot of experience, well so as well, with just working with men over 40, 23:11 Speaker 0: and 23:12 Speaker 0: this is no joke, 90 percent of the men that were not on TRT, when I had them get their blood work, are under 300. 23:19 Speaker 0: Literally, 90 percent. That is a very, very big problem. 23:22 Speaker 0: So TRT is huge, 23:24 Speaker 0: and that alone is awesome. It's gonna change your life if you are not on testosterone replacement at 54. 23:30 Speaker 0: Should you add Sermorelin? 23:32 Speaker 0: Absolutely, it's a secretagogue. 23:34 Speaker 0: I would suggest 23:35 Speaker 0: you take it at nighttime, 23:37 Speaker 0: but I think they would go perfectly together. I mean, I take HGH 23:41 Speaker 0: preferably 23:42 Speaker 0: and testosterone 23:43 Speaker 0: replacement. 23:44 Speaker 0: Me, personally, so how I answer that is 23:47 Speaker 0: my 2 that are in my arsenal no matter what, testosterone replacement and human growth hormone. 2 I use of human growth hormone in the morning and testosterone replacement are always in my arsenal. 23:57 Speaker 1: Yep. I 23:59 Speaker 1: say, okay, would it aid the t the TRT? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 24:04 Speaker 1: You know, you hear people throw these things around, these words, acronyms, TRT, HRT. Right? TRT is that means you are taking testosterone at a low dose for a long time to help your natural testosterone, 24:17 Speaker 1: right, to supplement 24:18 Speaker 1: it. 24:19 Speaker 1: HRT is hormone replacement therapy, okay? That generally is referring to taking testosterone 24:25 Speaker 1: and HGH. 24:28 Speaker 1: So that's a common practice amongst doctors is to prescribe those 2 together. 24:33 Speaker 1: Sermorelin 24:35 Speaker 1: is the natural way 24:38 Speaker 1: boost your 24:40 Speaker 1: growth hormone levels instead of the actual real thing. So Yep. Yep, I think so. That will help. I still am of the opinion that if you're gonna take an HGH secretagog, 24:51 Speaker 1: you need to be taking 24:53 Speaker 0: both GHRH 24:57 Speaker 1: and a GHRP 24:58 Speaker 1: together. 24:59 Speaker 1: Okay? They will work synergistically 25:01 Speaker 1: together and really help 25:04 Speaker 1: your 25:05 Speaker 1: natural growth hormone. GHRH 25:07 Speaker 1: growth hormone releasing hormone, growth hormone releasing peptide. 25:11 Speaker 1: Those are the 2 differences. You can just easily look them up and see 25:15 Speaker 1: which ones are which ones. 25:17 Speaker 1: But taking 1 of each together, you'll see blends, Right? Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin, 25:23 Speaker 1: CJC, 25:24 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin. Right? 25:25 Speaker 1: Those come in blends because there's a reason they come in blends. Right. They go well. Way to do it. So now 25:34 Speaker 1: yeah. That's all I got. I think so. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. That's gonna be it's gonna be a lot better. But even just taking Sermorelin and TRT is absolutely 25:42 Speaker 0: better than Can you do it? Should you do it? Sure. Sermorelin. Yeah. Yeah. Do it up. Absolutely. 25:47 Speaker 0: Go for it. 25:49 Speaker 1: Okay. I will I will like to burn fat and not lose muscle. Should I start on MOTS c and 5 amino 25:57 Speaker 1: 1 m q or do or go with just the g just GLP 3? 26:02 Speaker 1: I'm trying to maintain my muscle mass. 26:06 Speaker 0: It cuts off, but I get the point. I wanna not get it from That's good 1. That's a good 1. I this is good go. Go. You want want me to take it? Yeah. Yeah. Start off. I mean, so 1st and foremost, you know, peptides are not steroids, 26:19 Speaker 0: right? If you're trying to gain muscle, they're not gonna do the best at gaining muscle. My opinion in gaining muscle is eat food. 26:28 Speaker 0: If you wanna try to, if you wanna gain muscle, you know, and you don't wanna 26:32 Speaker 0: do any even TRT or any type of gear, which I would never recommend anyway, I'm just saying you wanna eat food, eat a lot of food. Eat workout, eat food. 26:41 Speaker 0: Creatine, 26:42 Speaker 0: creatine HCL is my favorite, monohydrate is probably the most popular, but those would work really well in my opinion in regards to, I think personally better than peptides for gaining muscle. 26:54 Speaker 0: You know, the 5MQ and the GLP-three specifically are burning fat. 27:00 Speaker 0: You know? So those aren't gonna make you gain muscle. 27:04 Speaker 1: Right. What would you say? Well, 27:07 Speaker 1: I think that they said, hey, look, I want to burn fat, but I just do not wanna lose any muscle at at all. You know? And should you do that here's the deal. Here's the deal. The GLP-1s, 27:20 Speaker 1: GLP-1GLP-1. 27:24 Speaker 1: GLP-1S, 27:27 Speaker 1: GLP-2T, 27:28 Speaker 1: GLP-3R, 27:31 Speaker 1: They've all got kind of a bad rap and because you you hear people be like, oh, well, that 1 27:37 Speaker 1: makes your hair fall out. That 1 makes your eyesight go bad. That 1 makes your your your muscles bad. Oh, that 1 makes you lose all your muscle. Well, here the truth is so the the compounds, the drugs are not doing that to you. K? Right. It's not 27:51 Speaker 1: they are not actively, like, deteriorating your body. What's happening is 27:56 Speaker 1: you are being malnourished 27:57 Speaker 1: from food. Right? 27:59 Speaker 1: You're not eating enough nutrients 28:02 Speaker 1: to keep your tissue, to keep your eyes and bone and muscle 28:07 Speaker 1: intact. 28:08 Speaker 1: Okay? 28:09 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you go when you starve yourself. 28:13 Speaker 1: Right? Our bodies start deteriorating. 28:15 Speaker 1: That's why we get hungry. Right? Our bodies are meant to eat food. Oh, malnutrition. It's called malnutrition. 28:19 Speaker 1: Alright? 28:20 Speaker 1: So what you GLP-three, 28:24 Speaker 1: the real 28:25 Speaker 1: great thing about it is you are not nauseous. You actually have an appetite. All it is do well, it's doing other things burning fat, but as far as the appetite reduction, 28:35 Speaker 1: it is slowing your gastric emptying, okay, which makes you feel fuller faster. Okay? You still have a great appetite. 28:42 Speaker 1: That's beautiful because you need to be eating. To 28:45 Speaker 1: maintain your muscle and burn fat, you need to be eating protein. Okay? And protein, folks, that's the only thing that's gonna keep your muscle. 28:52 Speaker 1: So 28:54 Speaker 1: while on GLP-three, 28:56 Speaker 1: if you 28:58 Speaker 1: eat 28:59 Speaker 1: enough protein, 29:00 Speaker 1: right, and eat enough protein, you will not lose muscle. Great. There's other factors that go into how you can not lose muscles based on your exercise habits. 29:11 Speaker 1: If you are 29:13 Speaker 1: but I suppose 29:15 Speaker 1: people on that, it does really help reduce appetite. Right? It does help you not eat a lot. Right? You're there's a better chance that you're gonna end up not eating enough and therefore losing muscle on the GLP-three than 29:26 Speaker 1: on MOTS c and 5 and 1 m q. Sure. Better chance. I think GLP 3 is freaking miracle and, like, it will work. 29:34 Speaker 1: You just gotta make sure that you're continuing to eat and getting your protein intake. You know? If you're a man, I mean, it depends on how how much this person weighs. But Yeah. 29:44 Speaker 1: There's different thoughts, but I think that a man who is actively lifting weights needs to be eating 29:50 Speaker 1: at least their pounds 29:53 Speaker 1: in at least 1 g of protein per 1 pound of body weight. Thinking you're trying to gain some muscle, you should be eating 1.5 granules per 1 pound. Agreed. So 30:05 Speaker 1: if we're really concerned about that, 30:08 Speaker 1: you know, that doesn't have to happen with GLP-three, but the MOTS c 5, amino-1MQ is probably the safer approach. 30:15 Speaker 0: There's also other really good ones. Also, how much are you trying to how much do you weigh? How much trying to how much weight do you need? I mean, it's kind of a big question, but it's all contingent upon your body's 30:25 Speaker 0: what you look like and what you where you're at. And just the protein you eat. So, 30:30 Speaker 1: yeah, you can you can totally burn tons of fat and not lose any muscle on GLP 3. 30:35 Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, dude, we've talked about it numerous times. GLP 3 is a god goddamn And I wouldn't scientific printer, man. GLP-one 30:43 Speaker 0: or GLP-two because those things just they just make you nauseous and you can't eat enough. You just can't That's why it throws curtain balls at the people that start with the 2, those 2, because then they actually get an appetite and they think it's not working. It's a mind blowing. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. People go there and they start taking g l p 3 like this stuff doesn't work. This stuff sucks. Yeah. I actually like your food. Which actually, you can actually enjoy food because you have an appetite again, you know, which is goes into the next 1. So this is a perfect little segue into this question. So I've been on tirzepatide 31:11 Speaker 0: 5 months watching your Instagram channel. I learned about Retrutide. 31:16 Speaker 0: How long should I wait to change over? It's a good question because we worked with a lot of different people, you know, did a lot of different ways. So you wanna take your reins on us? Here's I think you should wait until you 31:27 Speaker 1: I I wouldn't wait, in fact. I was gonna say I would wait until that tirzepatide bottle is gone, and then I would start 31:33 Speaker 1: restart 31:34 Speaker 1: g l p 3 as soon as you possibly can. 31:37 Speaker 1: But we've actually worked with tons of people, I've seen this happen, and they will just will take both 31:44 Speaker 1: of them simultaneously. 31:46 Speaker 1: You know? I wouldn't 31:48 Speaker 1: take the same amount of tirzepatide you're taking and then add just double the amount of retacetide, but kinda cut both of them in 0.5, you know, and just work your way until that bottle of tirzepatide is gone, and then you're back up to a regular dose of of retacetide. 32:02 Speaker 1: I think that there is absolutely no reason to be taking 32:06 Speaker 1: tirzepatide 32:07 Speaker 1: when you can be taking rituximab. 32:10 Speaker 1: So get over to it as soon as possible. 32:13 Speaker 0: Yeah, and that's kind of a question that we work with with different people in a lot of different ways. Personally, 32:19 Speaker 0: the tirzepatide, 32:20 Speaker 0: and we've stated numerous times even on this podcast today, Retrutide is just superior product. It's just a better product, right, for numerous reasons. 32:30 Speaker 0: But you should taper down on the tirzepatide, Right? You're still using it. So taper down, don't keep the same dose and the Retatrutide in my opinion. 32:38 Speaker 0: So taper down the, maybe cut the tirzepatide in 0.5 and then start with like 5 units or like, you know, maybe 10, 5 units of the the Retrutide and slowly start to transition. 32:49 Speaker 0: Yep. And that's I've done that with a lot of people, and that has worked well. Yep. And I don't know, guys. Maybe I should restate this disclaimer. 32:55 Speaker 1: Like, 32:56 Speaker 1: you do whatever you want. Y'all are all grown grown people. 33:00 Speaker 1: I just we're just kinda telling you what my opinion is. I Yeah. We are not doctors in at all qualified 33:06 Speaker 1: to be giving you advice that you should follow. 33:10 Speaker 1: We're just telling you our experience and dude what our opinions are. Hear that. These random ass questions. 33:16 Speaker 0: Hear that. 33:18 Speaker 0: Looks like do we have any more? 33:20 Speaker 1: You shouldn't mix with other peptides. Like, if you were only trying to take 1 shot in the morning, 33:26 Speaker 1: 1 of my shots had turned hazy when I added 33:32 Speaker 1: 1 extra peptide to the mix. So that that question was basically answered. Answered, yeah. Asked and answered, which and and it's a valid question, dude. Like, we we've talked about what we also have tried 33:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. To experiment with that. 33:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. And I do wish I had a better answer of telling you, like, well, this exact peptide, right, does not mix with that 1. 33:53 Speaker 1: It's, 33:55 Speaker 1: you know, 33:56 Speaker 1: I think if they're all water based and if they're all going to the same place and 34:00 Speaker 1: you go ahead and mix them, but sometimes it is certain peptides will go mix in there and then just turn that syringe looking like looking hazy. 34:10 Speaker 1: I've injected that too. 34:12 Speaker 1: I'd say that, look, dude, don't know, played paper off, just maybe squirch What it have you lost? You lost 34:17 Speaker 0: 5 units of 1 of your peptides and you've learned that that 1 peptide is the 1 that you shouldn't mix with everything else. Well, you just said that though, what you just said is so important, Will. What you just said is I learned. And how do you learn? You learn by trying this stuff, right? We've been doing supplementation 34:34 Speaker 0: for all kinds of supplements, 34:35 Speaker 0: creatine. Why do I know that I like HCL better monohydrate? 34:39 Speaker 0: Because I've done them both. You know what I mean? My answer to that question for you guys is 34:45 Speaker 0: I try to keep the ones that are similar together. Like I'll do a secretagogue 34:50 Speaker 0: and HGH together because they are similar. I won't do like HGH and HCG 34:56 Speaker 0: because they're different. So I don't mix those ones. And that's just kind of the rule of thumb that I personally use. I'll mix the ones that are somewhat similar and have the same effects. I don't mix the ones, like I don't mix Retrutide 35:09 Speaker 0: and HGH, 35:11 Speaker 0: personally. 35:12 Speaker 0: That's what I do. Yep. 35:14 Speaker 1: That's it for the questions, but I guess I did wanna the guy who asked about 35:19 Speaker 1: Sermorelin on top of TRT, 35:21 Speaker 1: just to be clear, 35:23 Speaker 1: nope, 35:25 Speaker 1: not talking about the Sermorelin being a good replacement for testosterone, 35:29 Speaker 1: right? There are no peptides 35:31 Speaker 1: that do all of the wonderful things that testosterone does. 35:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you're talking about replacing it, no way. Yeah, yeah, no. But for sure as an add on, a 100%, but 35:41 Speaker 1: testosterone is just a natural 35:43 Speaker 1: sorry, guys. It's like kinda what this men were made out of it. It does so many dang good things for us. 35:49 Speaker 1: There is nothing out there that is replacing that. Well, 35:53 Speaker 0: mean, that's good to end on this because we've said it so many times, but if anybody, this is, they're brand new to the podcast, 35:59 Speaker 0: you're not gonna get the benefits out of the peptides that you can until you are hormonally optimized, meaning your hormones are in the right levels. If you have super low testosterone, 36:10 Speaker 0: it doesn't matter really what peptide you take, man. It's not gonna do that well. You gotta get your hormones in line. And how do you know? You go get them tested. Go to a doctor and have your blood work done. Yeah, 36:21 Speaker 0: no doubt. You need to start there. You do not, if you're older and in my opinion, again, just an opinion, 36:27 Speaker 0: anybody, gosh, dude, I say 40 now, but dude, with the shitty food we eat, I've seen 35 year olds have super low testosterone. 36:34 Speaker 0: But just go to the doctor and get your blood work done, free testosterone, estrogen, testosterone, you mean, just get your levels looked at, 36:41 Speaker 0: and then at the very least, you can make an educated 36:46 Speaker 0: decision 36:48 Speaker 0: because you know where your levels are at. Nobody's gonna tell you what you should or shouldn't do, but if you don't know where your levels are at, you definitely don't know what to do. You know what I mean? 36:57 Speaker 0: Don't be mad. Yeah. So, 36:59 Speaker 0: man, I enjoyed it, man. That was cool. I enjoyed it. So the 1st q and a, that's cool. I enjoyed it. 37:05 Speaker 0: We're gonna be releasing this tomorrow. We'll do some little clips as well on all the channels, but anything you wanna tell us before we close out here, buddy? No, dude. I I hope people were listening, and I hope it actually helped. I hope this answered 37:20 Speaker 1: the questions for more than just those people who asked them. Yeah, Melanotan. Good questions, man. Those are great. I thought they were great. Right. Bring it more, and all we can do is kinda give you our our experience, 37:30 Speaker 1: which we have a lot of. 1 37:31 Speaker 0: of my favorite dudes that that that always use when when I'd ask him certain questions, he'd say, always get the answer you get is based upon your question. So for the people that ever ask us, What should I take? We don't know you, so don't ask that. 37:43 Speaker 1: Right. When I say, What's your goals? And you say, To gain the most amount of muscle and burn the most amount of fat in the shortest amount of time. Not an acceptable answer. No shit. Like, duh. 37:53 Speaker 0: Right. That's not helpful. 37:55 Speaker 1: Right. 37:56 Speaker 0: So, yeah. Those were great articulate questions, man. So those that was a good start. So 38:01 Speaker 0: good stuff, my brother. Well, cool. We will be dropping the peptide of the week next week, so that's the next thing. We'll be dropping this tomorrow 38:09 Speaker 0: and then next the peptide of the week, and then we'll do this every Friday. So give us some feedback, Shoot me a DM on any of the channels that we have out there. Let me know if you like it, And that's it my friends, signing off. Catch you next time. Later.