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Ask your doctor, visit botoxchronicmigraine.com, 0:57 Speaker 0: or call one-eight hundred-44Botox 0:59 Speaker 2: to learn more. Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, 1:03 Speaker 2: 0 Sugar, and Vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 1:24 Speaker 3: Welcome back to pep time of the week podcast. I am your host JD Denham. And across the way, looking very dapper today, making me look bad. I'm gonna cut off, and he is in a nice shirt. My cohost and buddy, William T. Hoss. What's up? What's up? And, well, we have a night we have a special guest here, so I thought I'd pay some respect and look nice. 1:45 Speaker 3: Touche. 1:46 Speaker 3: Touche. But we do have a very special guest now. 1:50 Speaker 3: Lee 1:51 Speaker 3: Dihexa 1:52 Speaker 3: is a very special, 1 of my favorite humans. I'm gonna tell a cool story, so you're gonna get a little bit mad at me, but it's 1:59 Speaker 3: such a proper story. I don't even think you've heard this story well for this podcast because 2:04 Speaker 3: Lee is the gal that does my Botox and my wife's Botox. And we'll get into that here shortly on how that even happened. But, so 1 time I was in getting some Botox. I think I was getting a facial and I was telling her how excited I was. I was gonna start 2:19 Speaker 3: my own podcast, 2:21 Speaker 3: and I didn't know what to do. And I was all excited, and that was I'd never done it, so I was just gonna be on my computer screen, and that was gonna be it. So I was all excited. So I leave. Next time I come in for a treatment, I'm getting like a facial or something, my eyes are shut. Lee comes in very lightly and she whispers on my ear, I got you something. She got me a little present. And I didn't think that much of it. She's always super kind, blah, blah, 2:44 Speaker 3: So I check out, I go, I leave, I walk back to my truck, and I open this 2:48 Speaker 3: present. 2:49 Speaker 3: And she got me my own 2:52 Speaker 3: microphone, 2:53 Speaker 3: some lighting, and she dialed me in with everything that I needed 2:59 Speaker 3: for my 1st podcast. How ironic that we are on this podcast 3:03 Speaker 3: today in our own podcast studio. I've come a little ways. 3:07 Speaker 3: It's that time. But 3:09 Speaker 3: that is the 3:11 Speaker 3: heart of this human sitting next to me. So what a cool story. So welcome to the show. She is the owner 3:17 Speaker 3: of 3:18 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills Rejuvenation Center in Chino Hills and Newport Beach. 3:22 Speaker 3: And like 3:24 Speaker 3: I said, my wife and I go to her and get a lot of stuff done, but welcome to the show. Thank you. Nice be here. Nice to be here. So I wanted to tell, so we want to start a little bit off about, 3:34 Speaker 3: because you're good at this stuff, some 3:37 Speaker 3: women and testosterone replacement. 3:39 Speaker 3: It's such a big thing for men. 3:41 Speaker 3: We have talked about it numerous times for men, but tell us, let's dig in a little bit for you ladies. We told them we would have somebody on the show. Tell us a little bit about for the ladies. 3:51 Speaker 5: Okay, women and testosterone. 3:54 Speaker 5: So I think 3:55 Speaker 5: 1 3:56 Speaker 5: misconception 3:57 Speaker 5: is that it's primarily for libido, 4:00 Speaker 5: but 4:01 Speaker 5: in our bones we have osteoclasts 4:03 Speaker 5: and osteoblasts. 4:05 Speaker 5: 1 builds the bone and 1 breaks it down. 4:09 Speaker 5: As our testosterone drops in both men and women, 1 that breaks down bone is much more active 4:16 Speaker 5: And the 1 that builds it is less active. So we are breaking down bone faster than we are creating it. So that sets us up for many different things, like, especially 4:27 Speaker 5: for me, I'm afraid of osteoporosis, 4:31 Speaker 5: especially given that I am part Asian, that tends to run-in my family. 4:37 Speaker 5: So that's my main consideration with testosterone. 4:41 Speaker 5: On top of 4:43 Speaker 5: lean muscle. We know that muscle is directly correlated with longevity. 4:48 Speaker 5: So, and how much lean muscle we retain throughout the years. 4:52 Speaker 4: Yeah. So 4:53 Speaker 4: that's your main consideration is the osteoporosis when that's 4:57 Speaker 4: the main driver of, I guess, yes, getting women on TRT. Wow, 5:03 Speaker 4: that's interesting. Great. Because it is a problem. Is that all women of all ages or just especially as women get a bit older? As we get older. 5:12 Speaker 2: Okay, you're good. And 5:15 Speaker 5: then I 5:16 Speaker 5: actually did a DEXA scan 5:19 Speaker 5: just to see before I was on testosterone 5:22 Speaker 5: to see whether or not it helped. And I had some mild compression in 5:27 Speaker 5: my lower vertebral column 5:29 Speaker 5: in the lumbar area 5:31 Speaker 5: and then I just had some instances where my bone was thinning out so I took it and then it didn't progress and it did improve 5:39 Speaker 5: And so that's great as well as being on vitamin D and that's really important. 5:45 Speaker 5: I consider vitamin D as more of a hormone than it is a vitamin. 5:50 Speaker 5: I believe that we should be a bit higher than what is 5:54 Speaker 2: stated 5:55 Speaker 5: on the guidelines. 5:57 Speaker 5: And then I think that you should take it also with 6:00 Speaker 5: the K2. 6:02 Speaker 5: I think that's important so that you don't deposit on your heart valves. Because my background, I used to work in cardiothoracic. 6:09 Speaker 5: So a lot of us 6:12 Speaker 5: open heart surgery 6:14 Speaker 5: patients. 6:15 Speaker 5: And then I also worked on stroke units as well. 6:18 Speaker 5: Weren't you in the ER? I was in ICU. ICU. 6:22 Speaker 5: Was in charge of a major 6:24 Speaker 5: cardiothoracic 6:25 Speaker 5: ICU 6:26 Speaker 3: for many years. That's such a big difference, such a left turn on to a different career. What was the reason? Is there anything in particular that drove you away from that? Was it something that was like 6:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, is it was it something that's just like maybe seeing people like in that? That's I mean, that's gotta be very tough on your psyche seeing people like that. Right. And there's there's a lot. There's so much we can there's so much to dive into. Stress, 6:50 Speaker 5: homocysteine 6:51 Speaker 5: levels. 6:52 Speaker 5: We We're putting all these patients on statins to 6:56 Speaker 5: don't get me started by that. It's like, then you drive their cholesterol down and then now you can't create hormones. And then we're not considering, you know, HDL, HLDLs, 7:06 Speaker 5: VLDLs. 7:08 Speaker 5: We're considering total cholesterol and getting and then there's with the statins. 7:13 Speaker 5: Now we have all these CHF clinics. So there's so much more to dive into there as well. Yeah, you were saying, 7:21 Speaker 3: basically if I'm hearing that correctly, so you were saying you were kind of not agreeing with some of the Western medicine. 7:26 Speaker 3: All right. You've come to the right place. Right. Welcome. 7:31 Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of statins. I can't even believe they are still using statins, but man, it's unreal. 7:37 Speaker 4: So, wow. So back to the women in TRT. So what method 7:42 Speaker 4: do you give to these women? Are they injecting themselves or are you injecting them? Are they getting what different methods do you 7:49 Speaker 5: administration methods? For testosterone, I'm going to do pellets. But 7:53 Speaker 5: there are so many different forms of it. There are creams, which I don't believe that they're as effective because now you're going through the skin barrier, depends on the thickness of the skin, how much vasculature 8:03 Speaker 5: is in that area, 8:05 Speaker 5: know, whether or not if they're keeping it online. There's so many variables. 8:09 Speaker 5: Injectables are great. 8:10 Speaker 5: How, you know, 8:12 Speaker 5: and then also I love pellets because then I can control exactly. How 8:16 Speaker 3: do you I I mean, you obviously get blood work done, blah, blah, blah. And how do you kind of determine for women how much they need to take? I mean, is it similar to like a man? Like, is it that simple? 8:28 Speaker 5: Well, there's calculators for that and it's based on their activity level, 8:33 Speaker 5: their Meaning how much they exercise, blah blah blah? Their their total their total cholesterol, 8:38 Speaker 5: their free test 8:40 Speaker 5: I mean, their 8:41 Speaker 5: total 8:42 Speaker 5: tea, 8:43 Speaker 5: free tea. What 8:45 Speaker 5: their desired activity level is. 8:48 Speaker 5: There's so many different things to consider 8:52 Speaker 3: As women come in, in today's world, it's changed, which is great because, I mean, we hear it in what we do, 9:01 Speaker 3: which is amazing. So it's not just we hear men that get on testosterone replacement and in a few weeks are like, it's changed my life. And now we are hearing that same thing for women. And it has been an amazing thing. The 9:14 Speaker 3: sex drive is just a big cherry on top. It's not even like remotely 9:19 Speaker 3: like what it is about. Like, it's like clarity of thought, like feeling like better, feeling like vigor back, feeling like a human again. You know what I mean? I would imagine it's just the same for women. Exactly. 9:31 Speaker 5: Yeah. Just having that drive again. And a lot of women, they start to feel sluggish. They're not themselves, 9:37 Speaker 5: you know, and they're and I've heard so many women complaining to me, you know, I don't feel myself, Lee. So I'd send them back to their primary care. I go and, you know, and go and check, get these labs. 9:49 Speaker 5: Some of them, 9:51 Speaker 5: they didn't have those labs drawn. You know, they were told that they're fine, that they didn't need it. And then some that did get the labs are on their piecemeal it wasn't all the labs for the entire clear picture what that patient was going through and 10:04 Speaker 5: many of them came back to me year after year and they didn't get any treatment or 10:10 Speaker 5: is sub therapeutic 10:12 Speaker 3: So I decided it was time to, you know, start offering it. That's awesome. Good for you. No, I love it because 1 of the things we've ran across is, like 10:22 Speaker 3: we just talked about Western medicine, it's Western medicine, you know, and when we talk, well, I'll use myself as an example. When I started doing the fitness stuff, I 10:31 Speaker 3: was marketing to men 40. Right? So I 10:34 Speaker 3: would say probably 60 percent of the men that I started working with were on TRT. So quite a bit. Right. But the other 40 percent were not. And of course they felt like shit, they were tired, they didn't feel right. 10:45 Speaker 3: Well, let's get your blood work done and some would get their blood work done or they just had it done, you know, and they would send it to me and they would have 10:52 Speaker 3: testosterone ran the total testosterone, but no estrogen, no free testosterone. 10:56 Speaker 3: And it's like, it's frustrating to the degree where, 11:01 Speaker 3: you know, doctors are, we trust them so much, but if you're going to go to the doctor and he runs your, 11:07 Speaker 3: your blood work and he doesn't even do like a deep panel that has, you're like taking a picture and showing the corner. You know what I mean? You're not showing the whole picture and like, so we're seeing that more and more, which has been great, you know, some of the doctors that we've had on here, 11:20 Speaker 3: and we're starting to kind of build for lack of a better way to say it, a repertoire of doctors that are, they are good at what they do. You know, a good friend of mine, Doctor. Scott, he runs a deep, deep, deep, deep panel and 11:34 Speaker 3: sits with you for an hour, hour and 0.5 to where I was like, dude, I gotta go, bro. But like, he's like, this is why this is happening and this is happening and it's affecting your LDL, like all this stuff. Like, was blown away by it in that because no doctor that I've ever sat with. That's wonderful. It's amazing. Yeah. And we refer a lot of people to him because he truly cares. You know what I mean? It's unfortunate that 11:56 Speaker 3: it's just kind of the world we live in. We're doctors. We trust them so much, but unfortunately, I don't know a lot about hormones. 12:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a subspecialty and 12:06 Speaker 5: I think it takes going back 12:08 Speaker 5: and 12:10 Speaker 5: just reeducating ourselves, 12:12 Speaker 5: you know, and making sure that what we're doing, I mean, there has to be some evidence based 12:18 Speaker 5: practice, but I think the evidence comes out, the studies come out, but then we don't shift how we treat our patients. And I think there has to be a shift. 12:29 Speaker 5: Do you think that's pride? Ego? Why is that? Potentially, but also you have to think about in school, a lot of my friends 12:37 Speaker 5: that are physicians don't get the 12:40 Speaker 5: education on nutrition. 12:42 Speaker 5: Like a lot of them don't even know what zinc does in the body, 12:46 Speaker 5: magnesium, 12:47 Speaker 5: what the appropriate levels are. 12:50 Speaker 5: It's about here's a pill 12:53 Speaker 5: to treat the symptom, 12:54 Speaker 5: not how can we keep you at your optimal level. Which affects 17 different other things. Yeah, so there's a lot of things that are missing. So back to the DRT, 13:05 Speaker 4: I was riding my bike with my family this weekend and I ran a run across 13:09 Speaker 4: a group of my old neighbors. We used to live in the site. And she's like, Hey, Will. And 1 of my neighbors, who's a woman, she's maybe like 60. 13:17 Speaker 4: Sorry if you're listening. 13:19 Speaker 2: I'm 13:20 Speaker 4: 58. Anyway, 13:22 Speaker 4: so she was like, Hey, I just got on TRT. 13:25 Speaker 4: Or I don't think she said the words TRT, but she's like, I got on testosterone. It's like, Oh my God, I feel great. Wonderful. I'm so horny. Oh, 13:33 Speaker 2: yeah. Correct. 13:35 Speaker 4: Cool. But, 13:36 Speaker 4: yeah, so it'll be interesting, like, and I can't tell you how many different friends, 13:40 Speaker 4: parents that are now on, I mean, parents, not mothers, 13:44 Speaker 4: that are on it. 13:46 Speaker 4: Usually 13:46 Speaker 4: with the pellet, but some of them cream. I know for a man, we're not a big fan of cream because men need we need a lot more testosterone. 13:55 Speaker 4: So a couple of questions, okay, here's the holy grail. And I know everybody's going to be asking and you do not have to provide this answer. We asked this to our last doctor. So like on average, 14:04 Speaker 4: what dose are you starting off a woman at of testosterone in a pellet? 14:09 Speaker 4: You don't have to answer it because it's kind of a trade secret type and it's different. It's different based on the pitch. Yeah, no, I can't state that just because it's so individualized 14:18 Speaker 5: to each patient. It isn't 14:21 Speaker 3: cookie cutter. Are you able to kind of break down like what 14:26 Speaker 3: kind of gives you that answer? It, I mean, obviously blood work, like, is it also 14:31 Speaker 3: you kind of talking through lifestyle and things like that. I mean, I'm imagining it all comes together as a whole picture. It 14:38 Speaker 5: does. So the other thing is 14:42 Speaker 5: you have to also treat based on symptoms, 14:45 Speaker 5: not just treating numbers. So, you know, there's some finesse with that. Also, 14:50 Speaker 5: we know where they're at now and where they want to be. But 14:54 Speaker 5: also within that, you don't want to over treat someone. 14:59 Speaker 2: Especially women. For 15:01 Speaker 5: me, I'd rather 15:04 Speaker 5: just tiptoe into it, kind of figure them out, see what they need. And if we can always add more, we can always boost their testosterone or their estrogen, 15:13 Speaker 5: but I'd rather not overshoot it. Then now they don't want to be on hormones anymore. What's 15:20 Speaker 4: the law? So people ask this all the time. What's okay if I start the testosterone, 15:25 Speaker 4: like in especially in the pellet, what happens if I at the end of that, well, how long does the pellet last? And then 15:31 Speaker 4: what kind of long term consequences they're going to be because I started this testosterone for a woman. Right, 15:38 Speaker 5: so about 4 months, but we do a 6 week blood checkup if they'd especially once we have them on, you know, just automatic, 15:48 Speaker 5: you know, just every 4 months dose and it's pretty stable, 15:52 Speaker 5: we'll offer it to them. But in the beginning, we will do it every 6 to 8 week checkup. 15:59 Speaker 5: So, 16:00 Speaker 5: sorry, what was it? Long term. So if I start, is that a problem? Can I stop? In perpetuity, can I stop? You can stop, but you won't want to stop. 16:09 Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. Why would you do that? You're gonna feel your best. 16:13 Speaker 5: Right. And we're living longer. 16:16 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't we want to optimize like the quality of our lives? 16:20 Speaker 5: Know, our 16:22 Speaker 5: ovaries are for men, 16:24 Speaker 5: they're testes. They're not going to supplement 16:27 Speaker 5: us to live to 80, 90, 100 years old. So how do you how do you want to live your life? That's your personal choice. Yeah, no doubt. Especially with the science. I mean, we're so we've come so far, like you can age well. I mean, you run, 16:41 Speaker 3: 2 wellness centers and like it's TRT is just 1 of the many things 16:46 Speaker 3: that you do, 16:48 Speaker 3: but you can age great. 16:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hell, look at you. Do you mind telling him, I mean, you look young 16:53 Speaker 4: and gorgeous, but Sarah told me that you have a daughter that's older than her back here. Wow. So I'm almost 50. 17:01 Speaker 2: Join the club. Yeah. 17:03 Speaker 5: So the big thing is I do things that stimulate collagen, 17:08 Speaker 5: keep the skin healthy. 17:11 Speaker 5: And then on top of that, you layer on, 17:14 Speaker 5: you know, estrogen, 17:16 Speaker 5: testosterone, 17:17 Speaker 5: progesterone that's micronized. 17:19 Speaker 5: Also, it's also cortisol. 17:22 Speaker 5: Like cortisol is a big Yeah, thing that people talk 17:24 Speaker 5: so I do things that kind of keep my cortisol level down. So I do I garden, I do yoga, I work out, 17:31 Speaker 5: I try to manage my stress. 17:34 Speaker 5: Massage. 17:34 Speaker 5: There's so many different layers to taking care of ourselves. 17:40 Speaker 4: That's awesome. Mostly, honestly, the people probably want to learn just most like, what do you do? 17:45 Speaker 4: Know? 17:46 Speaker 4: That's 17:47 Speaker 4: a good that's great. 17:50 Speaker 4: Perimenopause, 17:51 Speaker 4: menopause, 17:52 Speaker 4: could you talk to us about where that plays into 17:55 Speaker 4: maybe your prescribing of testosterone or what you see or what is happening to a woman and what are 18:01 Speaker 4: general treatments, etcetera? 18:03 Speaker 4: Okay. So what am I seeing with the women? Yes. What are seeing? What is, what, you know, what's happening with women during perimenopausal 18:09 Speaker 4: and how does that relate to testosterone? Is that an indicator? 18:12 Speaker 4: Kind of generally talk about that period of life. Sure. So there's less vigor. 18:17 Speaker 5: A lot of relationships tend to suffer too. This is a period when a lot of women seek out divorce. 18:24 Speaker 5: And there's many layers to that as well. 18:27 Speaker 5: They just don't, you know, they find all of a sudden find their partner unattractive. 18:32 Speaker 5: There's no intimacy there. 18:35 Speaker 5: They're more irritable. 18:38 Speaker 5: I think some of that could be with the relationship, of course, 18:41 Speaker 5: but some of that can also be physiology. 18:43 Speaker 5: Sure, absolutely. You know, we're not as nurturing, 18:46 Speaker 5: you know, during those periods. So I think being on testosterone, 18:50 Speaker 5: estrogen 18:51 Speaker 5: and progesterone 18:52 Speaker 5: can really make a significant impact in a lot Life of changing. Exactly. 18:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. What is it generally a specific age? I mean, comes in and they're just not feeling well, let's just say over 40, 19:05 Speaker 5: you're going to basically start just kind of breaking down and just asking them questions. Like, how do you attack that? Well, a lot of my patients, you know, there's trust there. So we just talk while we are doing a procedure on them and they shared with me, you know, I haven't been sleeping well. 19:20 Speaker 5: My husband, I can't even like stand to hear him breathing next And 19:25 Speaker 5: I'm like, okay. 19:26 Speaker 5: I've known these women for like, you know, a decade. And I see the changes in them and they're they'll complain about their skin being dry, 19:35 Speaker 5: aches and pains, you know, that were never there before, 19:38 Speaker 5: weight that's on their belly that they can't get rid of with diet and exercise that always worked before. So there's just a lot of like, you know, just a blanket of complaints that all tell me there's something hormonal going on. It 19:52 Speaker 3: goes hand in hand about everything that we talk about as well, because I know that it would be the same for women where, 19:59 Speaker 3: for example, like Will and I discuss quite often their 20:03 Speaker 3: peptides are amazing. I think everybody's sitting here agrees with that, you know, and I know that you travel all over and you've studied them because I've talked to you about it numerous times, but peptides are great. But if you don't have your hormones 20:15 Speaker 3: in line, peptides are just going to work a little bit. They'll work a little bit, but like if you don't have your hormones in line, if you are not sleeping well, 20:24 Speaker 3: if you're not eating right, these things are the base of the foundation of health. I mean, if you're not sleeping, cortisol, those things are going to affect you in such a deep level. And I don't think people understand 20:37 Speaker 3: the depths of 20:40 Speaker 3: the hormones 20:42 Speaker 3: being in line, like how important that is. Like, that's the base of everything. Peptides are going to be amazing. 20:49 Speaker 3: What you just said on all those things that they have an issue with, 20:52 Speaker 3: if you get the hormones in line and then you add the peptides, oh my gosh, you can feel like 1000000 dollars. Like we hear it so often, But again, 21:02 Speaker 3: peptides will only work really well if you don't if you have the hormones in line. Same thing for women. True. You know what mean? And peptides 21:10 Speaker 5: peptides are wonderful, 21:11 Speaker 5: but hormones, 21:14 Speaker 2: are Chronic 21:15 Speaker 0: migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum 21:23 Speaker 2: toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number 1 prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis, or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit botoxchronicmigraine.com, 22:12 Speaker 0: or call one-eight hundred-44BOTOX 22:14 Speaker 0: to learn more. Doctor. It's actually for women. 22:16 Speaker 5: There aren't a lot of receptors on our brains and our hearts, 22:20 Speaker 5: and for things to operate well, we need to have that imbalance. 22:24 Speaker 5: That'll also, if we're in balance, it'll decrease our risk for heart attack, stroke, 22:30 Speaker 5: dementia, 22:31 Speaker 5: so many different things. And there's actually proven MRIs that show that when we every time we have a hot flash, for example, 22:40 Speaker 5: there's a little white density on our brains on the MRI that shows vascular compromise. 22:45 Speaker 5: So why aren't we treating women when we have evidence that every time they have a hot flash that their brains are being affected? 22:52 Speaker 5: You know, so, 22:54 Speaker 5: you know, and then you add on to that, like you add peptides and you optimize everything. I mean, these women are going to feel amazing and they should feel amazing. 23:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's so rad and with the science today, we tell people the same thing. It's like, man, you can feel like 1000000 bucks. I mean, I'm 48. I 23:10 Speaker 3: don't ask you your exact age when you said pushing 50, so we're running neck and neck. Come on, give me some 23:17 Speaker 3: skin, girl. But 23:19 Speaker 3: let's say a girl comes in, like I said, she's over 40. What are some of the things, because you do quite a bit, I mean, we're talking about hormone replacement, but what are some other things that you can offer to some women that 23:29 Speaker 3: aren't feeling 23:30 Speaker 3: well, aren't feeling pretty? 23:33 Speaker 3: Their sex drives low, so we know about that already, but they just, they can fix a lot of these things all as a whole. Like, you're gonna fix this gal. Where do you start? 23:42 Speaker 3: What are some of things you can do? Okay, 23:44 Speaker 5: so as far as beauty? 23:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. Externally? All of it. Like, you just want to make her feel and look great She's not feeling good. Right. I always start with skin. I'm very skin forward. 23:55 Speaker 5: So if I see that their skin has a lot of sunspots 23:59 Speaker 5: on it or some kind of textural issues, 24:03 Speaker 5: lasers are wonderful. Micro kneeling is great to keep the skin thick. 24:07 Speaker 5: And I love lasers too because certain lasers can remove up to 40% of precancerous cells. So now we've delved into the preventative, 24:14 Speaker 5: less of let's watch and see whether or not it's going to turn to something else that we need to cut out. Why not get checked by your dermatologist, 24:22 Speaker 5: make sure it's not cancerous and then come in and just remove it every year. 24:26 Speaker 5: You know? And then you your skin's gorgeous. You have more confidence with less, you know, makeup, you walk, you know, you roll out of bed and you look great. 24:35 Speaker 5: You know, that's great. Also, 24:37 Speaker 5: personally, I've done Sculptra since I was 29. I do it every 2 to 3 years and that's helped me a lot keep my keep my collagen in my skin. What is that? Can you tell us what that is? Explain that a bit more. So Sculptra is, an injection. 24:52 Speaker 5: I place it under the skin and over the course of 6 to 8 weeks, you create your own collagen. If 24:59 Speaker 5: you were to tug on the skin, actually, 25:02 Speaker 5: you're able to pull out, know, you know, have a bit, you have less 25:08 Speaker 5: elasticity And in your 25:10 Speaker 5: then when you do the Sculptra, you'll notice that if you pull on it, it snaps back. It's firmer. 25:16 Speaker 5: So I love Sculptra because it's natural. It's your own collagen. You don't look done. You look like yourself year after year. And that's been my personal secret is Sculptra. 25:27 Speaker 2: Nice. 25:29 Speaker 5: That's awesome. I love that. 25:31 Speaker 5: Also, Radius is wonderful. That's calcium based. 25:35 Speaker 5: That 1 I place under the skin. 25:38 Speaker 5: It's great for the body, especially to create more elastin. 25:42 Speaker 5: So it's collagen and elastin and Sculptra is predominantly 25:46 Speaker 5: collagen. 25:47 Speaker 5: So that's nice like if you have, know, maybe after you've had a baby and the skin's not as thick and bouncy, can do it there and the elbows, the knees, 25:56 Speaker 5: but The butt, that's wonderful too. 26:00 Speaker 5: You can place it all over, yeah, in your body. What's the cream? It's a it's an injection as well. It's an injection. Yeah. Well, that helped just that sort of thing. I'm thinking about a butt. Mhmm. The 26:10 Speaker 4: skin. So it'll help the skin's elasticity, but it's gonna help anything else inside of beyond 26:16 Speaker 4: the skin. 26:17 Speaker 5: That 2nd 1? No, no. So it's the skin, which is nice because some women, it was huge when they were getting BBLs and are getting fats, you know, transferred. But 26:26 Speaker 5: it wasn't changing the actual skin. 26:28 Speaker 5: So this 1 actually changes the envelope. And then you add to it your peptides, 26:32 Speaker 5: which help 26:33 Speaker 5: even more, you know, and also 26:36 Speaker 4: some of your serums. Some of the serums too. Yeah. JC-two. 26:40 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. We, so I wanna tell a quick, quick little story about how I started doing Botox, you dude. So like, I know that 26:47 Speaker 3: if you're like me, it wasn't cool to get Botox, but when I got sober, 26:51 Speaker 3: I started sweating like profusely and I just thought, okay, I'm detoxing and that's just, you know, and then year after year, like now I'm running a mortgage company, so I'm wearing a suit and like sweating through my dang suit, like in front of people and it sucked. I was like, what is going on here? And then I read about Botox. If you get Botox on your armpits, you stop sweating. So I'm like, okay, cool. So I go in to get some Botox. And the 1 thing about me is that 27:16 Speaker 3: I want what I want and I don't want you to sell me. So I went in to get some Botox. Remember. This is I met you. This is how I met Lee. I went in to get some Botox. You had just transferred. You didn't own the place yet. Yeah, I know. So I went in there and the 1st gal was just upselling me and just I was like, 27:31 Speaker 3: Lady, if you say it again, I'm walking out. I told you what I wanted, like, and I, you know, I'm just very I just leave me alone. I left and I'm, like, so frustrated. My wife's like, she calls me and she's like, don't upsell it. 27:42 Speaker 3: So then the next day I go back and Lee was there and she just comes in and she goes, okay, we're just gonna do it on your arms. And she just says, okay, cool. She just 27:49 Speaker 3: done. I was like, Well, that was rad. Y'all know that's who I love. So then she at least 27:54 Speaker 3: got her own place, and then it was Chino Hills. So my wife and I follow her there. We've just started to follow you. So I'm getting Botox under my armpits, gentlemen, and she would be like, 28:05 Speaker 3: let me just give you a little bit on your face. And I'm like, I said, Lee, you know, we're friends by now. And I'm like, Lee, 28:10 Speaker 3: like, I'm a punk rocker. Mean, if I get Botox in my face, my friends will kick my ass. So, no. So then I come in and get my Botox under my armpits and blah, blah, blah. So it goes on for a bit. So finally she goes, Just let me do a little bit. Now I trust her, so I said, Okay, let's do a little bit in my eyes. I go home. She's like, Wait 2 weeks. And I said, okay, it looks really good. And it worked really well. So now, so now she just has carte blanche. Like, she'd are that stuff you put under my eye? Last time I'd come in there and like, she's like, I'm gonna put that stuff under my eye and burn like, holy shit. It was great. Now I feel great, guys. So 28:50 Speaker 3: it is not uncool to get 28:54 Speaker 3: get some Botox, fellas. 28:56 Speaker 4: It is cool. And you were doing you were on camera at this point, so you could see yourself. Like, you could look back and go, hey. There was me and the camera. Mean, I was chubbier, and I was So, no 29:06 Speaker 3: like, if you look, like, I definitely look different just because I look different. But, I mean, it's, like, night and day, dude. Like, oh my gosh. Like, Leah's made me. I'm 48 years old. 29:15 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on camera 29:17 Speaker 3: every day all day, and people are like, dude, your skin looks great. You know? And I'm like 29:22 Speaker 4: Yep. That was her. That's her. I got a couple more questions. We have 1 from the crowd. 29:26 Speaker 4: Alright. Do you see menopause 29:29 Speaker 4: happening earlier in women as opposed to 10 years ago? Now also, 29:33 Speaker 4: I have a add on to this. I was speaking with a friend and she was telling me that her daughter and women, 29:39 Speaker 4: young women are going through 29:41 Speaker 4: puberty earlier. 29:43 Speaker 4: Is there any connection or do you see that 1st question? And do we say, what's the deal? What's the deal? Is women ageing way too much faster? 29:52 Speaker 5: Let me see. Okay, that's loaded. There's so much to that too. 29:56 Speaker 5: I'll answer this for sure. Oh yeah, well I think 1 thing, 30:00 Speaker 5: so for my children, I know not everyone can do it and that's very unfortunate, 30:04 Speaker 5: but I make sure that they eat purely organic 30:07 Speaker 5: grass finished meats, 30:09 Speaker 5: nothing with extra hormones in them. 30:13 Speaker 5: I try to keep their diet very clean, 30:16 Speaker 5: know, I try to take out the extra sugars 30:19 Speaker 5: because there's so much to that as well 30:22 Speaker 5: and how it's affecting their hormones. And I also make sure that they get enough exercise. 30:26 Speaker 5: A lot of these kids are very sedentary 30:30 Speaker 5: and they need to go outside, they need to play or and then when they're in high school, them busy with sports. You know, there's a lot to that. 30:38 Speaker 5: So, yeah, that's very multilayered. 30:40 Speaker 3: No, I agree that it's to 30:42 Speaker 4: women, do you think that do you see that are women going into menopause earlier 30:47 Speaker 5: as opposed to 10 years ago? I do. I think women are experiencing it, but also I think they nowadays they also know what to watch out for, you know, they are more proactive. 30:58 Speaker 5: I think that is 31:00 Speaker 5: another aspect of it. 31:03 Speaker 5: I think 31:06 Speaker 5: women won't 31:08 Speaker 5: at least this generation of women they're 31:10 Speaker 5: saying, Hey, no, I don't feel right. I want to get treated. I want somebody to address this. Whereas before 31:17 Speaker 4: that wasn't the case. Right. I guess it was not yeah. Okay. The science is better, right? They see like, why do I mean, this is the thing with testosterone 31:25 Speaker 4: and HGH as an older man, like, 31:28 Speaker 4: technology is there. Like, why the hell? You replace it with body doesn't have it. Technology is there now, and we know how to use this safely, 31:36 Speaker 4: relatively safely. I'm not gonna say like everything is perfectly safe, but hell, yes, I'm gonna use it. Why would I wanna live worse if there's a better way to do So we want to shake people when we hear that. But I 31:47 Speaker 3: would say, 31:49 Speaker 3: would think, you know, just like using women and men, how they're different, 31:53 Speaker 3: men are so stubborn and like, I would imagine women at least are more open minded to fix themselves compared to men. Like, you know what I mean? Where if they're closed minded, where testosterone 32:04 Speaker 5: is cheating and all that stupid stuff, like they're stuck in their ways. Women, I would imagine just because they're women are more open to trying different things. Right. And I also, I think to speak to like, why if we're seeing women, do I see women having perimenopause earlier? Think also, I mean, is gonna be very controversial 32:22 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna say it but I think it is also all the birth control. I 32:27 Speaker 5: think it really changes our physiology in a way and we're not meant to take this 32:33 Speaker 5: medication 32:34 Speaker 5: for so long and not expect that it's going to have some, you know, down the road. 32:40 Speaker 3: That's huge. That's a good point. I had a thought about that. Another 32:43 Speaker 4: 1, 32:44 Speaker 4: I was asked by 1 of our employees whose wife is pregnant for the 2nd time. 32:50 Speaker 4: What should she take for hormonal 32:54 Speaker 4: supplement 32:55 Speaker 4: during her pregnancy? 32:57 Speaker 4: Do you, and I know that's again a hard 1, but do you believe in these multivitamin 33:01 Speaker 4: type hormonal, 33:02 Speaker 4: you know, over the counter supplements? Do you think they actually do anything? 33:06 Speaker 4: And is there any suggestions that you would have for a person asking that question? 33:10 Speaker 5: For me during pregnancy, this is sticky. That's a sticky area. I 33:15 Speaker 5: don't suggest hormones, but I do say that if you're having 33:19 Speaker 5: several miscarriages, 33:21 Speaker 5: for example, I say check your progesterone, 33:24 Speaker 5: you know, 33:26 Speaker 5: that's 1 thing and I think we need to talk about that more. But also 33:30 Speaker 5: during pregnancy, 33:31 Speaker 5: I think in this country, we don't have enough DHA and 40% of the baby's brain is DHA. 33:38 Speaker 5: Always tell my this is my 1 piece of advice for women when they're pregnant is take DHA. 33:43 Speaker 5: I say, 33:44 Speaker 5: you know, our supplements have 200 mg, 33:47 Speaker 5: but in some studies that were done in Europe, those women took 1200 mg and those babies were 3 to 4 years ahead of the children here. So 33:57 Speaker 5: there are those studies out there that prove it and 34:01 Speaker 5: then our studies say they didn't 34:05 Speaker 5: there was no direct correlation, 34:07 Speaker 5: but there was no harm in it. So for me, if there's no harm and there's potential benefit, 34:12 Speaker 4: why not? I agree with you there on those things in life, 34:15 Speaker 4: especially when it comes to lot of these peptides, you know? Like, you like, really I mean, more can't really be bad for you, and so she she's good at lunch. Because 34:23 Speaker 4: the potential is there for good. Cool. 34:26 Speaker 4: I have other questions, but I will Good 1. Chill. No. 34:29 Speaker 4: Here. Good 1. Well, I guess, okay, so the big question is like, what are your favorite, so piggybacking 34:34 Speaker 4: on his question to 34:36 Speaker 4: you about what would you give a woman, like what are your top 5 peptides for women? How about a top 3 for physical look and a top 3 for just like 34:46 Speaker 4: internal 34:47 Speaker 5: well-being? Okay. 34:49 Speaker 5: The BPC is great. I think women have just generalized aches and pains everywhere, you know, especially when they hit their 40s. 34:57 Speaker 5: I love Areta. 34:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. Just because we have that 35:03 Speaker 5: abdominal 35:04 Speaker 5: fat deposits that that can 35:07 Speaker 5: aggregate around the heart and all the, 35:10 Speaker 5: you know, organs that we need to, you 35:13 Speaker 5: know, keep, 35:15 Speaker 5: lean. 35:16 Speaker 5: And 35:17 Speaker 5: then also, 35:19 Speaker 5: I love the GHK- 35:21 Speaker 5: because why not? Know? It looks great. I mean, if I can pick 3, but there's so many more. Yeah. 35:27 Speaker 4: How about internals? Are you familiar with, I don't know, some of the other things like glutathione? 35:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love glutathione. 35:34 Speaker 5: Awesome. Yeah. 35:35 Speaker 5: I do that as a I do that, but I also do an IV bolus before I go get on a plane to travel For 35:44 Speaker 5: me, it's helped me not pick up bugs on my trip and then as soon as I get back I do an IV So 35:51 Speaker 5: I do love that 1200 mg is great and anything beyond that in a daily dose and you might affect your thyroid. 35:59 Speaker 4: Well, not good. And turn your skin white after you do it for too long. Yeah. 36:04 Speaker 4: How about NAD plus? 36:06 Speaker 5: I love that. 36:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. NAD plus is great. I mean, that's huge. Lots of clinics everywhere for 36:12 Speaker 3: probably the most popular. Yeah. 36:15 Speaker 5: Wonderful for energy, of course. Energy. Yeah, absolutely. Uh-huh. 36:19 Speaker 5: I do love anything that's gonna help heal our mitochondria. 36:23 Speaker 5: Absolutely. So there's several of those. 36:25 Speaker 2: MOTS-11.0.1. 36:27 Speaker 5: Wow, it's just so many. And, 36:30 Speaker 5: know, the 1 that also that helps the 36:32 Speaker 3: telomeres and keep it That's telling me. Yeah, I think that's very important for longevity. Yeah. Our good friend, Paul, he he starts every every stack off with that. Mhmm. Every single person. He said that they need to kinda reboot with that. So 36:45 Speaker 4: What were you saying? What was the other 1 that you threw out there? NAD. 36:49 Speaker 3: Thymosin 36:50 Speaker 3: Alpha-one. Oh, I love that 1. TA-one is probably the best in regards to 36:54 Speaker 3: if you're gonna travel and you and you do not take it, you're being silly. Because you're gonna get sick. So 36:59 Speaker 3: TA-one will definitely pretty much, in my opinion, block you from getting sick on a plane. But 37:06 Speaker 4: you told Alyssa that it 37:08 Speaker 5: will burn out your Botox out of your body. Yeah. And so can GLPs. GLPs can make your tox not last as long. Really? Yeah, I'm noticing that. 37:21 Speaker 5: I noticed that a lot of my patients when they start the, 37:23 Speaker 5: but you know what, whatever, then you just get it more often. 37:29 Speaker 4: About, I mean, wouldn't just anything that boosts a person's metabolism 37:33 Speaker 4: get rid of that toxin faster or is that not how it works? I don't know. I don't think so. It sounds logical. Yeah. 37:40 Speaker 4: Some pro science. 37:41 Speaker 5: That makes sense. 37:44 Speaker 3: I got a question. 37:45 Speaker 3: You have 1 choice. We both answered this. You have 1 peptide that you can take forever and that's it. What do choose? 37:53 Speaker 5: I would take my, my Retta. Okay. Yeah, just because I have a fatty liver, and I did Yeah. Do It's a science degree. It's 38:01 Speaker 3: unreal. Yeah. 38:03 Speaker 3: I would choose BPC. 38:05 Speaker 3: BPC- 38:06 Speaker 2: that's wonderful too. It 38:08 Speaker 3: does so much and like like, you know, Will, I talk about this all the time. I will lift weights till I die. So I'm taking my BPC. 38:16 Speaker 4: Yeah. 38:17 Speaker 2: Our 38:19 Speaker 4: bodies aren't like, I guess for, 38:22 Speaker 4: I don't have fatty liver 38:24 Speaker 4: and it's been easy for me in my whole life to stay lean and that's not a problem, but my body always hurts and it always will. 38:31 Speaker 4: Played so many sports and I will continue to lift weights and hurt 38:35 Speaker 2: myself. 38:36 Speaker 4: So yes, I would love, I just need the healing and anti inflammation 38:41 Speaker 5: most of all. The EBU can. 38:43 Speaker 4: So what is that? Tell us about that. The EBU, yeah. Very interesting. So we start 38:48 Speaker 5: 2 IVs, 1 in each arm. We take your blood, we filter it. We put it through a filter. 38:54 Speaker 5: Can't say filter it. And then we put we put through ozone, 39:00 Speaker 5: and then we reinfuse it into you, you know. 39:03 Speaker 2: It sounds like toxins and stuff. You'll see everything. 39:06 Speaker 4: What was it? Really? You'll see all of the nasty And stuff that it takes 39:11 Speaker 5: then when people ask, what was it taking out? Well, I don't know unless we test 39:16 Speaker 5: what's in there. Oh, pretty cool. But everyone, 39:19 Speaker 5: I have patients that have chronic, 39:21 Speaker 5: just inflammation in their body and 39:24 Speaker 5: they're sitting there and during the procedure they'll notice like, yeah, it doesn't hurt anymore. You know? 39:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a lot of benefits to that. How long have you been doing it? So what does that spell 39:35 Speaker 4: that and what is it an acronym for something? 39:39 Speaker 4: Do you know the big words? Been 39:42 Speaker 5: for actually longer than I've been for a long time. Was a was big word for just talking about it when he goes to 39:48 Speaker 2: Dubai. Dubai. He gets it every time he says You have to go to Dubai. We haven't done that. Can The Yeah. That's great. Yeah. 39:55 Speaker 4: Was it why was it only used to be just available in foreign countries? It was it's big in Malaysia. 40:01 Speaker 5: And then of course, Dubai now is doing a ton of it. Dubai 40:05 Speaker 4: is big on it. Well, 40:07 Speaker 3: I wanna do that. It's, if you if you had to choose with all the the all the cool little stuff that you are able to do, what would you do you have a do you have a favorite thing that you 40:18 Speaker 3: you either do for yourself or like like something 40:23 Speaker 3: that you offer for gals that are trying, like I said, to look pretty and so to speak, blah blah blah. Is there something in particular that you could not live without? The number 1 thing is Sculptra. Yeah, as far as beauty. I love my Sculptra. 40:37 Speaker 5: If it's for health, I mean, hormonal balance has made a big difference to me. Huge. Yeah, it's kind of a must. It's kind of like the base of everything. Right. 40:45 Speaker 5: And then, you you know, peptides, of course, Thoretta, 40:48 Speaker 5: I lost them on semaglutide 40:50 Speaker 5: because we started semaglutide 40:52 Speaker 5: before it was really unpopular. Wow. I lost, like, 74 pounds. Woah. You did? Wow. 40:57 Speaker 3: That's crazy. You don't remember me? No. I don't remember you losing back 74 pounds. That's a lot. Don't remember. I definitely remember you looking skinnier, but I don't remember 74. 41:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, Semaglutide, 41:07 Speaker 3: it's funny too because it's just gone. 41:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. We don't even sell it. It's gone. It's gone. 41:14 Speaker 2: Even Tirzepatide. It's 41:16 Speaker 2: basically- It's pretty much old news. Yeah. But Red is, 41:20 Speaker 3: you know, again, Paul, the guy that we were good friends with, he was comparing 41:24 Speaker 3: Retrutide, 41:25 Speaker 3: Retrutide. 41:26 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. With Botox, 41:29 Speaker 3: how it is literally 41:30 Speaker 3: like that big. And 41:33 Speaker 3: Eli Lilly knows that's how big it is. Okay. 41:36 Speaker 3: So it's moving mountains, 41:39 Speaker 5: but it really is. Yeah, there are new ones coming. 1 that's gonna be like a once monthly. 41:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Interesting. New ones in the horizon. Uh-oh, I figured. 41:48 Speaker 4: It's getting better. So what do you think is back to like the hormones? And I know that, 41:53 Speaker 4: talk about testosterone, estrogen, 41:56 Speaker 4: progesterone, 41:57 Speaker 4: what are some other big hormonal 41:59 Speaker 4: What are the most important hormone? I mean, I know this is loaded, but what are your main kind of the main hormones for women, and which ones do you see usually are out of whack more than others? Just name them. And 42:13 Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah. 42:14 Speaker 0: Which- Chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum 42:23 Speaker 1: toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number 1 prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment. 42:33 Speaker 2: Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. 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Of course, number 1, I see a lot of testosterone. 43:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, 43:28 Speaker 2: younger. 43:30 Speaker 5: 1 of my best friends had like basically 0 testosterone 43:34 Speaker 5: and her estrogen was great, her progesterone was low. So we supplemented that 43:39 Speaker 5: completely 43:40 Speaker 5: different. 43:41 Speaker 5: Like she feels amazing, 43:43 Speaker 5: you know? 43:46 Speaker 5: Estrogen, 43:47 Speaker 5: you know, is another 1. Mean, those 3 for women. But also we have to test 43:52 Speaker 5: a thyroid. I mean, there's a lot of thyroid issues, a lot of autoimmune issues going on. 43:58 Speaker 5: What do you think that is the reason of that? Is it the food? I believe so. There's a lot there's yeah, that's multilayered too. But yeah, think our environment of things that we eat, 44:07 Speaker 5: our water, 44:10 Speaker 5: toxins in our environment, 44:11 Speaker 4: I think all of those things come into play. So if a woman is living their life and saying, I feel like this, what are some physical symptoms that would maybe alert her that her testosterone is low? 44:24 Speaker 5: You just you don't have that 44:27 Speaker 5: drive anymore and that was the person that you, you know, that's how you were before, would go and get them, you know? You know, for me, 44:35 Speaker 5: I'm very, 44:37 Speaker 5: you know, I'm a hard worker. I, you know, I can work till late at night as long as I have to. All of a sudden, was just sitting there and I'm like, I didn't really want to do anything. 44:45 Speaker 5: I'm like, this isn't me. So some women, that's also libido 44:50 Speaker 5: is going to be a big 1, of course. 44:53 Speaker 4: Depression. Brain fog. Yep, depression, right? That's good to say. Right? Depression. 44:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, brain fog. 44:59 Speaker 4: And then, yeah, muscle mass. It's the same stuff as men. I'm probably saying, yeah, it really is. But it's interesting, like, I know the depression people go, okay, hey, depressed testosterone, 45:07 Speaker 4: that's a physical thing, not a mental thing. But like, but man, I don't know, in men, like, really helps. It is gonna make you happier. Gonna make you sleep better. 45:16 Speaker 4: Gosh. More drive. And I don't know, for most people, like less drive. That makes me depressed. Yeah. 45:21 Speaker 4: If and I don't why don't I feel like doing I mean, that's kind of depression, I think. Well, if you're next year, his breathing is bugging you. Yeah. Maybe get your hormones too. Like, get that. Right? There's probably me. 45:34 Speaker 4: There's probably a nature and nurture problem with that too. Right? Like, 45:38 Speaker 4: your 45:39 Speaker 4: wife is, hey, lost a little sex drive. Right? Well, 45:43 Speaker 4: then he's a little bit unhappier, and so he becomes a little bit more of mean. And then you become a little bit more mean. And then now, of course, he doesn't he's annoying. She's annoying. And that just compounds and compounds Okay, 45:56 Speaker 4: what about symbols, 45:57 Speaker 4: physical, like, signs that a woman's estrogen is low? 46:02 Speaker 4: Will they notice that? Right. So hot flashes. 46:05 Speaker 5: Okay. And for also men have hot flashes. Mhmm. But that's not estrogen based, obviously. Okay. Yeah. But right. Feel like I get hot flashes. I'm constantly hot. I'm now. I'm having 1 now. Alright. Still light. 46:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, hot flashes are the number 1. 46:24 Speaker 5: Women are less they're not as nurturing if that's in their nature, typically. 46:29 Speaker 5: There's just they're very subtle. Those are more subtle. I think testosterone is just a bit more evident. Yeah, when you have that. 46:37 Speaker 4: How about progesterone? 46:38 Speaker 5: Anxiety. 46:40 Speaker 5: You can't sleep at night. You can't So progesterone help you get to sleep. Estrogen will help you stay asleep. Okay. So those 2 are super important. That's right. What's 46:50 Speaker 4: your thoughts on oxytocin? 46:51 Speaker 4: About giving somebody oxytocin, the peptide oxytocin? 46:54 Speaker 4: Talk about, you know, nurturing, right? That is our, love drug, the love hormone. That can help as well. It can also help with intimacy. 47:02 Speaker 5: Absolutely. All these things are very complementary. 47:06 Speaker 3: All right, cool. But again, it's setting the base, 48:35 Speaker 3: I've left your place with my facial, that, laser facial that you do on my face Yeah. Burns my face off. I That's nice. I use that on there, and it literally is just amazing how fast it heals. You have to do a body lotion. 48:49 Speaker 4: Did you I know that, like so honestly, we have given that to a lot of women and they've said, holy, like, this is actually really amazing. I want I need to have, like, Tupperware party But for 48:58 Speaker 4: I wish we would've showed our competitors. Yeah. So also, you just said it's not tacky, you know? No, it's really nice. 49:04 Speaker 4: We bought bought a competitor 1 that was it 49:07 Speaker 4: looked barely blue, but it smelled gross and it was sticky. 49:12 Speaker 4: Is that a normal thing? Do like serum are serums often sticky? 49:16 Speaker 5: Well, you know what? I think it just depends on what your base is. I think if you keep it really clean, keep the silicones out. Uh-huh. You know, that'll be wonderful. 49:24 Speaker 4: We have a chance do it, and our goal was said, we do we want you to put as little ingredients in here as possible. Like, want a lot of GHK-two. We put a lot of the GHK-2000mg 49:35 Speaker 4: of of GHK-two for anybody. Oh, nice. That's most GHK-two in a peptide vial is, well, they come in 50 mg or 100 mg. Okay? 49:43 Speaker 4: So there is 20 vials of the hundred milligram GHKC to make 1. 49:50 Speaker 4: 30 vials of SNAP-eight. SNAP-eight is gonna help tighten skin, 49:54 Speaker 4: like fill in wrinkle Where we put crevices locally. 49:59 Speaker 5: Okay. And 50:01 Speaker 4: with the shampoo for men, I helped design this label and it's ingredients. 50:08 Speaker 4: I will maybe not read all of them. There's nothing that many, but 50:12 Speaker 4: something going, sit your ass, heart, soul, courage, and integrity. 50:18 Speaker 4: Go ahead and be a good looking man 50:21 Speaker 4: for the women, right? Like free of free of parabens, 50:24 Speaker 4: parabens. 50:25 Speaker 3: My wife said that better. It doesn't better not have parabens. 50:28 Speaker 4: We did that. JD said this the 1st time we didn't really know how to pronounce pronounce parabens wrong. Parabens. Parabens. 50:35 Speaker 4: So free of toxins, parabens, parabens, sulfates, 50:39 Speaker 4: but full of confidence, courage, and beauty. 50:42 Speaker 4: Anyway, this stuff is cool, and and we're working on more. And I know that you've you're saying there's 50:47 Speaker 5: That'll sell. The business 50:50 Speaker 4: well, things that are working are 50:52 Speaker 4: peptide infused products, masks. 50:54 Speaker 2: Chest 50:56 Speaker 4: masks, neck masks. I 50:58 Speaker 5: love that this has no fragrance because fragrance is also hormone blocker. Interesting. 51:03 Speaker 5: It interferes with it. So I love how clean that is. So I was smelling it. There's absolutely no fragrance. Wonderful. 51:09 Speaker 5: That's very clean. 51:10 Speaker 3: So we'll leave you with vlogs. Of the things that Will had come up with is, so a lot of people, you probably know this or maybe don't, they really have a hard time with the GHK-two, the copper where it stings, 51:21 Speaker 3: which it doesn't sing that bad, but some people think it does. But Will had come up with a 51:27 Speaker 3: little potion of water that stops the stain. We call it no stain, and it literally does no stain. It 51:32 Speaker 4: lit okay. So it doesn't take 100% of the sting away. It takes about 80% 51:37 Speaker 4: of the bite out of It pretty much does So I couldn't even do NAD. Like NAD 51:41 Speaker 4: and just different people's, you know, different people's bodies different. Like the GHK-3Cu 51:45 Speaker 4: didn't bug me. It's still a little bit like no problem, right? But NAD, 51:50 Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I'm not doing this. This hurts so bad. And 51:54 Speaker 4: so I, yes, I did lots of research and experimentation 51:58 Speaker 4: and now 52:00 Speaker 4: we have a water, a reconstitution 52:03 Speaker 4: solution 52:04 Speaker 4: that is called No Sting. And 52:07 Speaker 4: we'll give 52:08 Speaker 4: you some of that too to try on. Thank you. But 52:11 Speaker 4: it really works, but do not mix it it's actually it's the, acetic acid that you should not so in AOD-nine 52:17 Speaker 4: 604, 52:18 Speaker 2: that 52:19 Speaker 4: does not mix with water very well. See, they're just dieting. Sloop is 52:24 Speaker 4: tough. So is that acetic acid, 52:28 Speaker 4: generally, bacteriostatic water is what you need to mix it in. But if you put mix that stuff in anything else and especially in the GLPs Mhmm. You will ruin the bottle immediately. Okay. 52:38 Speaker 4: Just FYI. So 52:40 Speaker 4: use them for those things only. 52:42 Speaker 2: So 52:44 Speaker 3: I have a question for you. So people, 52:47 Speaker 3: ladies are gonna be listening, especially gals in Orange County, California. 52:51 Speaker 3: Where can people find you? They want to look pretty and feel good and maybe get their hormones tested and everything that we've discussed. Where can they find you? So, we are at Newport, 53:01 Speaker 5: right across from Fashion Island on 53:05 Speaker 5: PCH. 53:06 Speaker 5: It's Beverly Hills Rejuvenation 53:08 Speaker 5: Center in Newport, as well as we have Achino Hills at the shops. 53:13 Speaker 2: Bam. 53:14 Speaker 2: Been to both. 53:15 Speaker 3: You'll probably see me on I will go, my friend. Girlfriend will be coming soon. 53:20 Speaker 2: I know. She's been asking me to leave. I finally talked Will, and I'm like, Will, go get some damn Botox, bro. I know you're over 40. Go get some damn Botox, bro. Yeah. Finally. And so has my girlfriend been saying that. I wake up in the morning. She's like, look at your eyes. 53:34 Speaker 5: My god. Get out of here. My husband's like, stop licking at me. I stare at him. I'm like, okay, it's time for this. Now I just sit down and be like, Lee, they feel pretty. Yeah. She 53:43 Speaker 3: puts a stingy stuff in my eyes, but it looks good. That looks good. You look good. Looks good. I appreciate you. Well, 53:50 Speaker 3: is, 53:51 Speaker 3: man, 53:52 Speaker 3: it's great to have you on the show. I freaking love you. We really, my wife and I just adore the hell out of you. And that was a good story. That was a true story. She gave me my 1st microphone. 54:01 Speaker 3: What a cool story that is. It'll go down as 1 of my favorite. What a smart person listening to advice 54:07 Speaker 3: too. Well, you know what else? I didn't even tell you. Know what she said 54:11 Speaker 3: to me? Because we both believe in manifestation and you know, we talk about that stuff. Lee and I connect like that. But she said, You're going to be bigger than Joe Rogan. And 54:19 Speaker 3: she said it with such conviction, you know? And like, I just I remember thinking, Dude, that's so rad to have somebody say that to you. You know, like, it was just, I love you. Leave it in you and give me my own microphone. You use that. You use use what you're that. Talking about. Yeah. Yeah. That was huge. That's awesome. Good story, man. So we will have you back on. And ladies, 54:40 Speaker 3: you can find her there. And if you have any questions, you have multiple areas to find us, and we will direct you there. 54:46 Speaker 3: Other than that, if you have any questions or if you have any other things that we might want to grab her and pull her back on, 54:52 Speaker 3: she knows a lot about a lot. She literally, I'm not joking, travels around the world and studies all kinds of stuff. She's always like in different countries and whatnot studying, and that's what I love about her. So, yeah, anything else before we jump ship here? No, thank you so much. I know it's a I know there's so many loaded questions, and I know I think listeners 55:11 Speaker 4: like I know people have individual questions they want to answer, but even just just asking a verbal question 55:16 Speaker 4: is hard to even answer. Need to 55:20 Speaker 4: have people give you like answers for a questionnaire 55:23 Speaker 4: and see blood and all this to give an appropriate answer. So they did our our best to give a lot of information. Yeah, we did. So ladies, that was for you. Thank you. That was for you. And if you have any questions that you want me to get towards her, 55:36 Speaker 3: we'll get a message for you. So, 55:38 Speaker 3: other than that, we will catch you on the next round. Take care.