Peptide of the Week: SS-31 & CJC-1295/Ipamorelin Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-ss-31-cjc-1295-ipamorelin/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: What's up my friends? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week. 0:04 Speaker 0: I'm your host JD Denham, and I got my co host across the way there, William T. What's 0:10 Speaker 0: up, buddy? What's up, man? 0:27 Speaker 1: There was always little things, but in the big picture, 0:31 Speaker 0: know what, if we ever, if we ever start bitching, like, look, look where we work and look where we live, where we live and work where people vacation, man. It's all perspective, right? Absolutely. 0:42 Speaker 0: Life is always 0:44 Speaker 1: you and I have 0:46 Speaker 1: been real 0:48 Speaker 1: miserable for long times in our periods of our lives. And 0:52 Speaker 1: so any day not doing that is better. 0:55 Speaker 0: Right, man. Ain't doubt the truth. It's always sitting on the right perspective, man. Yeah. 1:00 Speaker 0: Well, 1:01 Speaker 0: my friends, 1:02 Speaker 0: have 2 peptides and the cool thing about 1:06 Speaker 0: what we're doing. And again, let me just throw this out there. Like we always do. Will and I are not doctors. We are 2 dudes that like peptides. 1:13 Speaker 0: We've tried a lot of the peptides. 1:15 Speaker 0: We've been doing them for years. We like talking about them. That's what you get. These are just 2 dudes talking about some peptides and that's it. Right? If you need some doctor's help, go see a doctor. They'll help you out with all that stuff. So today we have 2 peptides and what we're trying to do guys is we're trying to do different peptides, right? We're not trying to do 2 that are like synergistically run together. We're doing 2 different ones. So today what we're going to do is we're going to talk about SS-thirty 1:40 Speaker 0: 1, right? And we're going to talk about 1 of the favorites out there, which is going to be CJC-twelve 1:45 Speaker 0: 95 with Ipamorelin. 1:47 Speaker 0: And, that's a popular 1. I think, well, since that's 1 of the more popular ones and a lot of people know about that, let's start with the SS-31because 1:55 Speaker 0: I know you and I both like this 1 and we've been digging into it. Tell us a little bit about what it is and what does it do and why should we take it? Yeah. Okay. That's cool. Yes, 2:06 Speaker 1: we have. We've been taking it and digging into it like it's it's a and and have had a lot of feedback from other people 2:13 Speaker 1: using it for a while now. 2:15 Speaker 1: It is really, it's a really cool peptide. So it is 1 that is in the mitochondrial 2:21 Speaker 1: class. So it's working on the mitochondria 2:24 Speaker 1: in our cell, right, which is the powerhouse in our cell. And 2:27 Speaker 1: it is its job if we're to just kind of break this down simply is 2:33 Speaker 1: it's a scavenger. 2:34 Speaker 1: It's like a garbage cleanup crew inside of your mitochondria. So it is scavenging for any, like, I don't know, free radicals, any of the garbage 2:42 Speaker 1: that 2:44 Speaker 1: slows the mitochondria down, 2:46 Speaker 1: makes it 2:48 Speaker 1: too efficient 2:49 Speaker 1: or 2:51 Speaker 1: as it's the mitochondrial wall of, you know, being, 2:56 Speaker 1: be have weak or have any break points and 2:59 Speaker 1: that 3:00 Speaker 1: all of those, all of that bad garbage leads to different inflammation and, 3:07 Speaker 1: other 3:08 Speaker 1: problems throughout our body. 3:11 Speaker 1: So I guess the best way is it cleans up the inner 3:14 Speaker 1: mitochondria. 3:15 Speaker 1: Okay, all the garbage inside the mitochondria. 3:18 Speaker 1: It also strengthens that mitochondrial wall. 3:21 Speaker 1: It has 3:22 Speaker 1: integrity 3:24 Speaker 1: of the mitochondria. 3:26 Speaker 1: It also then 3:28 Speaker 1: doing that allows us to create more ATP. 3:32 Speaker 1: So ATP 3:33 Speaker 1: is a huge deal and adenosine triphosphate 3:36 Speaker 1: and it is kind of our cellular energy. So it's what gives us, you know, more energy, but not brain caffeine type energy. Yeah. 3:47 Speaker 1: More physical 3:48 Speaker 1: stamina, 3:50 Speaker 1: right? More physical stamina, 3:52 Speaker 1: more strength, more quick burst energy. 3:55 Speaker 1: ATP 3:56 Speaker 1: kind of cycle creatine 3:58 Speaker 1: is something also that works on your ATP. 4:02 Speaker 1: ATP, we 4:04 Speaker 1: use it off. Once it burns off, burns off into ADP, 4:08 Speaker 1: adenosine diphosphate. 4:10 Speaker 1: And that 4:12 Speaker 1: turns to lactic acid. So that's why when you run real fast, 4:16 Speaker 1: you burn off all of your ATP 4:18 Speaker 1: and now your legs burn. Yeah. Okay, so that's your ATP gone. If this is creating more ATP, 4:25 Speaker 1: you now are running faster for longer before it burns off. But also, 4:32 Speaker 1: so the performance enhancing side, great. That works. But also it is being used clinically 4:39 Speaker 1: for anybody with like chronic fatigue disorders. And 4:43 Speaker 1: I have met and talked to and read up also, 4:47 Speaker 1: there's 4:48 Speaker 1: countless stories of people saying like, Hey, I've been me 4:52 Speaker 1: or my wife have been miserable for the last 5 years, right? I've had like no energy and 5:00 Speaker 1: there's a problem, but you can't get out of it. They started taking SS-31and 5:06 Speaker 1: their life is back to normal and is basically like saved their life now, 5:09 Speaker 1: because 5:10 Speaker 1: they actually have an energetic full life and they're continuing on. 5:16 Speaker 1: You know, those in society, I think that's huge because 5:20 Speaker 0: whether it be lifestyle, 5:23 Speaker 0: depression, 5:23 Speaker 0: whatever people struggle with food for sure is bringing people's energy level down. But, you know, I think in regards to like with 5:32 Speaker 0: this 1 in particular, SS-thirty 1, 1 of the beauties of it is it's going to help with that mitochondrial and give you that cellular energy. And that's really going to give you more energy. It's going to help you age slower. I mean, it's so powerful 5:44 Speaker 0: for the people that are, like you said, sluggish. 5:47 Speaker 0: We've read some, some studies where it's really just radically changing 5:51 Speaker 0: people's lives drastically. 5:53 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So 5:55 Speaker 1: really, if we kind of list off the benefits, you know, is 5:59 Speaker 1: like cardiac support, 6:01 Speaker 1: better performance enhancing and endurance, more energy throughout the day, 6:06 Speaker 1: less like 6:08 Speaker 1: neuro 6:09 Speaker 1: degeneration, 6:10 Speaker 1: less neurodegeneration, 6:12 Speaker 1: right? Your 6:14 Speaker 1: and longevity. 6:17 Speaker 1: That 6:18 Speaker 1: is its list of potential benefits and 6:21 Speaker 1: the stories that I'm telling right are anecdotal 6:24 Speaker 1: stories, 6:25 Speaker 1: but 6:27 Speaker 1: my conclusion is it's too many people, 6:30 Speaker 1: experiencing the same thing for 6:33 Speaker 1: it to be something else. The, 6:36 Speaker 1: I guess, 6:37 Speaker 1: barrier, 6:38 Speaker 1: why is this not being used by everybody? Barrier is essentially just money, right? You need to take a decently 6:45 Speaker 1: high dose, 6:47 Speaker 1: for it to really, for it to really work. And 6:51 Speaker 1: that dose, it's also a very, very, very, very safe peptide. 6:55 Speaker 1: So you could take a really high dose. There's just nothing that can 6:59 Speaker 0: be wrong with it. I don't say nothing. I mean, most are for the most part, most are pretty, pretty darn healthy. There's gonna be some that have some risk obviously, 7:09 Speaker 0: but this is 1 of the ones that's 1 of the safest, kind of like even a BPC-157. 7:12 Speaker 0: There's not a whole lot of anything you should be worried about by taking high doses. Right, absolutely. 7:17 Speaker 0: Mean, 1 thing to see that it focuses and it helps the mitochondria. 7:21 Speaker 0: So people that there's so you know, if you have a damaged mitochondria, 7:24 Speaker 0: you're gonna be tired. 7:25 Speaker 0: You're gonna be lethargic. 7:26 Speaker 0: You're gonna hear your wounds are gonna heal slower. So this 1, 7:32 Speaker 0: enhance that mitochondria, 7:34 Speaker 0: you're going to feel better. You're going to have more cellular energy, your wounds are going to heal faster, 7:41 Speaker 0: just all around, you'll feel just well-being 7:44 Speaker 0: better, clear thoughts, all the above. Absolutely. Know what I mean? So that's why this one's a pretty special peptide. 7:51 Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. It is a special peptide and I would, 7:54 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, 7:56 Speaker 1: I would urge everybody. I've urged my family and loved ones to 8:01 Speaker 1: take it and 8:02 Speaker 1: they like it and everybody has a different kind of dosage barrier, right? Where they're saying like, oh, I don't really feel much. I've had people say, 8:12 Speaker 1: you know, like 2 mg, 3 mg. I didn't really feel much. And as soon as they got to 5 mg 8:18 Speaker 1: a day, they're like, holy crap. I've I've now 8:21 Speaker 1: life is good. 8:23 Speaker 1: They have some energy and they absolutely feel it. Right? There are stories, I mean, but there's there's lots of people out there that doctors I've I've read on this doctors are telling them take up to 22 mg a day. Wow. 8:35 Speaker 1: For the most part, you'll you'll see 10 mg bottles. Right? 8:38 Speaker 1: So just be aware. Right? So there's 10 mg bottles. 8:42 Speaker 1: 30 mg bottles is most common. I would suggest you try to get those. I've now started to see some 50 mg bottles. 8:49 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're gonna need to be taking, it generally seems like about 5 mg is kind of their lowest really effective dose. I would still start at 8:59 Speaker 1: 1 mg and work your way up as with everything, 9:03 Speaker 1: know, start, 9:04 Speaker 1: start small, work your way up. But that's generally about what you could expect. 9:09 Speaker 0: Yeah, so in knowing that, I mean, let's sit on that just for a 2nd in regards to, what we always recommend for anybody with any supplement, anything testosterone, 9:18 Speaker 0: whatever, to go slow, just to start slow. You can build yourself up. You know, I think it's human nature to want to do more, but everybody's body is so radically different. Just because somebody does well at 2 mg 9:32 Speaker 0: doesn't mean that that's, you're going to be your sweet spot, right? You have to 9:36 Speaker 0: start with 1 and work your way up and then try to find that sweet spot. And then there you are, but you can build up, you can't go back down. So it's always good with any, any supplement. Right. You know what I mean? Yep. Anything, 9:50 Speaker 0: anything that, 9:52 Speaker 0: anybody in particular, I know you kind of answered this already, but anybody in particular you think should not be taking this? 10:00 Speaker 1: No, 10:01 Speaker 1: I can't really think of it again. Always obvious guys, like little children, don't feed this to your babies or mothers or fathers. Don't feed it to your babies, 10:10 Speaker 1: pregnant women. 10:12 Speaker 1: Just better safe than sorry. Don't take it. But, but no, I don't, I can't see any really actual like condition to 10:20 Speaker 0: not take it. Especially if you have doctors that are prescribing 22 mg in a day. So if a doctor is going to prescribe that, that's a really high dose. That would be pretty expensive, 10:30 Speaker 0: but if you can afford it and it feels good, there you go. But other than that, that obviously tells you that it's a safe peptide. Right. 10:37 Speaker 0: You know, let's talk about, how about some of the ones that would be synergistically 10:41 Speaker 0: ran with it? Because mitochondrial 10:44 Speaker 1: would be a good 1. I can think of a few. What would you say? I think that MOTS-3C is the obvious light bulb and there is, yeah, 100% like synergistic value, right? 10:57 Speaker 0: Those 2 together, we were talking about So other 100 11:00 Speaker 1: like really MOTS-3.0 11:01 Speaker 1: is giving, is shuttling energy into mitochondria. So essentially your SS-31is 11:06 Speaker 1: now making 11:07 Speaker 1: your mitochondria 11:09 Speaker 1: be able to house all the energy to not be leaking 11:14 Speaker 1: any like any free radicals, oxidative stress. It's got some good integrity. Now we're just filling up with energy and it is working to its full potential and it's kicking ass. So those 11:27 Speaker 0: 2 ought to be ran together. Yeah, that's rad. I have not done that, but I'm gonna do that just kind of after our conversation and some of the stuff we've dug into, but kind of those comparable to like a TB-five 11:38 Speaker 0: 100 and a BPC-one 11:40 Speaker 0: 157. They're great separate, but together they do even better. And I think this would be comparable if you run an SS-31and 11:47 Speaker 0: a MOTS-3.0 11:48 Speaker 0: do great separate, but if you put them together, they shine. 11:52 Speaker 1: And like, or KPV 11:54 Speaker 1: and BPC, like both of them are working on their gut, right? For sure. Both alone are good, but I think that I wouldn't take. 12:02 Speaker 1: If we're looking, if we're worried about gut, right? Take BBC and KPV. 12:06 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I don't see any reason to only take 1 of them. 12:10 Speaker 1: Because they will absolutely synergistically work when the product of the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts. 12:17 Speaker 1: Webster's 12:18 Speaker 0: dictionary definition of sinners. There you go, brother. 12:22 Speaker 0: Yeah, know you touched on it already, but briefly, let's kind of like sit on this point for a 2nd. The, 12:27 Speaker 0: dosages, you're going to recommend we start at a milligram and start there and work our way up to generally like the low dose would still be 5 mg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Which is lot. I 12:41 Speaker 1: guess there's imagine if you have a 30 mg bottle, right? I would put 3 mls of water in it. If you do that, 12:50 Speaker 1: every 10 units that you draw, and I'm talking about 100 12:54 Speaker 1: syringe, right? 10 units, which is 0.1 of a mil will equal 1 mg. 13:02 Speaker 1: Okay. And I would start with that and 13:05 Speaker 1: 3 days a week to every day. 13:09 Speaker 1: I'd probably start every day. 13:11 Speaker 1: I'd go 1 mg every day and then I would bump that. I'd bump that up from there and pretty, pretty rapidly 13:17 Speaker 1: bump it up, maybe 13:20 Speaker 1: week by week, 13:21 Speaker 1: maybe bump up. I don't know, Wolf, like 1 mg. Everybody's got to just be the judge of themselves, you know? But 13:28 Speaker 1: I would maybe bump up by, by 1 mg daily 13:31 Speaker 1: each week. So 1 mg, 13:34 Speaker 1: then 2, 13:35 Speaker 1: then 3, then 4, then 5 daily. 13:39 Speaker 1: See what the 13:41 Speaker 1: adjustment is. Yeah. 13:44 Speaker 0: Like Will said, I mean, in this 1 in particular, the SS-thirty 13:47 Speaker 0: with some of our studies and digging into it, it's a great peptide. So for those of you out there, which is so freaking common, whether it's like 13:55 Speaker 0: in your head or not, whatever, you're, you're super tired, I get asked all the time. What can I take for energy? This is going to be 1 of the rock stars in 14:05 Speaker 0: answers, 14:06 Speaker 0: this SS-thirty 14:07 Speaker 0: 1, which I don't, I don't hear a lot of people out there, a lot of chitchat about the SS-thirty 1, but, now you know, so give 14:14 Speaker 0: it a shot, try it out and, slowly go up from 1 mg to 5 mg give or take, and, it's gonna help out a lot. 14:22 Speaker 1: The other biggest energy increase are like, we all know, like, you know, we don't want caffeine. You want energy? Just drink more coffee. Like, it's not. Yes. Drink water though. Well, it's like, it's amazing what water does to your brain if you're actually properly hydrated. 14:38 Speaker 1: It's crazy. So yeah, 14:40 Speaker 0: there's another tip. Whenever I get tired or I wouldn't like, you know, if I'm, before I'm going to the gym, I, I have a box of, Celtics, really good Celtic salt and my bride gets me, you know, and I, what my fingers and you let it soak into your tongue. And then I take a shot back like a hefty amount of salt, but people don't like realize it like, you know, just saltwater alone is a very good energy drink. It really is. 15:03 Speaker 1: If we're 15:04 Speaker 1: a carnivore diet, right? And like you you're lacking electrolytes because electrolytes really come in, come most, I mean, they come a lot from the sugars, 15:12 Speaker 1: carbohydrates. 15:13 Speaker 1: You get them from some minerals, but salt. 15:16 Speaker 1: Salts, 1 of the big ways to actually keep water into your muscles. 15:20 Speaker 0: And there's still a lot of people out there that think that salt's bad. Believe it not. And we were told when we were younger that salts bad for you. Yeah. It is bad if you eat 15:30 Speaker 1: french fries full of salt all day long. 15:32 Speaker 0: Right. That's 15:34 Speaker 1: you get the salt from. 15:37 Speaker 0: Yeah. That's what the salt is on as a problem. 15:40 Speaker 0: Yeah. Well, cool man. Well, there you go. SS-31guys. 15:43 Speaker 0: That's that's a, that's going be 1 that's going to shine for sure. And I don't hear a lot of talk about it. So give that 1 a shot. So let's dig in to the CJC-twelve 15:51 Speaker 0: 95 with the Ipamorelin 15:53 Speaker 1: and 15:55 Speaker 0: gosh, I would say it's probably the most popular of the ones that I hear about, but you know, it's got some pros and what some will say cons. 16:03 Speaker 0: So we talk a lot about there's some that don't have really much 16:07 Speaker 0: any negatives, but this 1 has a little bit of a, some things that people are concerned about. So let's dig into that a little bit and see, 16:14 Speaker 0: what are some of the concerns that people have a little bit with this, this 1 in particular? 16:20 Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. So like I have heard stories 16:23 Speaker 1: from a couple people and it's all, if you kind of just read a little bit on the internet, it's 16:30 Speaker 1: happened to several people where 16:33 Speaker 1: basically 16:34 Speaker 1: people have developed an allergy and it's mostly it's it is to the CJC-twelve 16:39 Speaker 1: 95. 16:40 Speaker 1: Not so much to the Ipamorelin. 16:42 Speaker 1: Just happens to be 1 that people can develop an allergy, a little bit more of an allergy to. And the reason is, 16:49 Speaker 1: excuse me, it's 16:52 Speaker 1: so our body 16:53 Speaker 1: recognizes 16:54 Speaker 1: doesn't 16:55 Speaker 1: recognize that as it recognizes that as a foreign substance at times. Okay. And some people's body, 17:03 Speaker 1: does this a bit more than others, but 17:05 Speaker 1: it's body goes, Oh, that is not me. Okay. And that elicits an immune response. 17:11 Speaker 1: And what their body does is make histamines that go after that CJC to try to get rid of it because it is not natural in our body. 17:19 Speaker 1: And, 17:21 Speaker 1: that 17:21 Speaker 1: gives you an allergic reaction, right? Is why when somebody has, it goes into like anaphylactic shot, what are you taking? Antihistamine. Okay. Because it is what the, it's the histamines that are putting you into that anaphylactic reaction. 17:35 Speaker 1: And 17:36 Speaker 1: so I have that will manifest in, 17:40 Speaker 1: you know, sweating some on the worst cases, right? Like even maybe the throat being closed up. But I have talked to people like I actually have a good friend. He said, Hey, I was doing CJC Ipamorelin from my doctor and I did the 1st cycle and it was awesome. 17:57 Speaker 1: It's, it is actually a really effective peptide. So 18:02 Speaker 1: cycle, 1st cycle was great, right? It kicked ass. I actually got some great results from it. I did the 2nd 1 and in like my 3rd injection, did it and just kind of like went red and sweating and then like threw up and called my doctor and had some like hives. 18:18 Speaker 1: Doc didn't know what 18:20 Speaker 1: the hell it was at 1st until he did a little bit of research. And so, 18:25 Speaker 1: and it was an allergic reaction and just like most allergic reactions, like, I don't know if you've ever had anybody who's allergic to shellfish. 18:32 Speaker 1: For example, I had a girlfriend who was 1 time and you know, the 1st time she had shellfish, a little bit of reaction, right? Maybe like a small little rash. The 2nd time, a little bit worse, right? 3rd time was like ER right now. So these things get in now, I'm not saying the CJC progresses like a shelf, shellfish allergies are 18:50 Speaker 1: all like notoriously really severe, 18:53 Speaker 1: but 18:53 Speaker 1: it progresses. 18:55 Speaker 1: So oftentimes 18:56 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any, like the 1st time that you do this, it's gonna be great, right? No problem. 19:02 Speaker 1: And then you do it the 2nd time and, 19:05 Speaker 1: now our body's ramped up, ready to fight this 19:09 Speaker 1: essentially. 19:10 Speaker 1: 1 19:11 Speaker 1: solution is taking antihistamine. 19:14 Speaker 1: Take an allergy pill. 19:16 Speaker 1: When you do an injection. Now I know that that's not convenient, right? It may be easier for a lot of you to just like, well, how about I just don't do it, do it, do it. But, 19:25 Speaker 1: so there is the general, there is the, there's the warning on that. And for some reason, I think maybe because it's a stronger, 19:32 Speaker 1: it is a very strong peptide 19:34 Speaker 1: that 19:36 Speaker 1: that is why our body has a uniquely stronger reaction 19:40 Speaker 1: against it. 19:42 Speaker 1: Sure. Now, 19:44 Speaker 1: I guess it's fairly 19:46 Speaker 0: So with, let's make sure we say that because it is fairly uncommon, but it has had that reputation 19:51 Speaker 0: 2 degrees. So compared to like other secreted dogs. So the, our recommendation or else I'll say mine is just go slow. Like always, you just don't know, especially with that 1 in particular or- Yep. I mean, once I was kind of reading some different things about it, I just, I'm a big fan of Tesamorelin in any way. That's my favorite security dog, but, 20:10 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a matter of opinion. It is. And I mean, I have ran CJC 3 separate times and CJC and Ipamorelin had never had an issue. Yeah. So it's a rare thing, but like, if something like that happens to somebody, 20:25 Speaker 1: just that's 20:26 Speaker 1: probably what is occurring. 20:28 Speaker 1: It's not, it really has nothing to do with like the quality of your product. 20:33 Speaker 1: It's just, 20:35 Speaker 1: it's just that your body not responding. Yeah. Now, 20:39 Speaker 1: if we want to talk about, I guess, like what the hell it does. Yeah, let's talk about the positive. 20:44 Speaker 1: So 20:46 Speaker 1: CJC-twelve 20:47 Speaker 1: 95 comes with DAC and 20:51 Speaker 1: without DAC. Okay. So with DAC makes it 20:56 Speaker 1: essentially like longer acting. Okay. 20:59 Speaker 1: And causes a 21:00 Speaker 1: sustained 21:02 Speaker 1: growth hormone pulse. So our natural human growth hormone happens to us in pulses throughout the day, generally about 6 pulses throughout the day and night. The pulses during your daytime are not very high. 21:16 Speaker 1: After you go to sleep, the bigger is when you're really your biggest pulse occurs. 21:21 Speaker 1: So CJC 21:23 Speaker 1: with deck is the long analog version. Okay. And it kind of gives you more of a sustained release, 21:29 Speaker 1: which, 21:31 Speaker 1: is not like how our normal growth hormone works. Okay. And therefore oftentimes it can get people's, 21:39 Speaker 1: HGH 21:40 Speaker 1: too high. 21:43 Speaker 1: Would suggest, and I think the more common version out there is without DAC. 21:48 Speaker 1: Okay. 21:50 Speaker 1: Was without DAC makes it a, 21:52 Speaker 1: a smaller, 21:53 Speaker 1: shorter acting. 21:55 Speaker 1: Therefore, 21:56 Speaker 1: you need to inject it more frequently, like daily. Whereas with the longer 1, you only need to inject it like once a week. 22:04 Speaker 1: But if you with no 22:06 Speaker 1: DAC, shorter acting, 22:08 Speaker 1: inject daily, 22:10 Speaker 1: and then it's going to be a lot more similar to our natural 22:15 Speaker 1: growth hormone production, which is in kind of quick pulsar. 22:19 Speaker 0: Pulses. And 22:23 Speaker 1: in it basically stimulates your pituitary gland to make more, HGH, 22:28 Speaker 0: more human growth hormone. So the benefits like helps with fat loss, muscle growth, better recovery, just the typical growth hormone, 22:37 Speaker 0: benefits. It's just 1 of the stronger, 22:40 Speaker 0: probably the strongest of the secretagogues. 22:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say it's strong. It is probably the strongest. And yes, that's why 22:45 Speaker 0: it's so popular. That's why it is so popular. 22:48 Speaker 1: But right. And for everything, right, it's going to make your muscles recover faster. It's going make your skin recover faster, wounds recover faster, boost 22:56 Speaker 1: your metabolism, you'll burn fat faster. 22:59 Speaker 1: Yep. 23:00 Speaker 1: So 23:01 Speaker 1: yes, all of these 23:04 Speaker 1: good things, 23:05 Speaker 1: those are general good symptoms 23:08 Speaker 1: of 23:09 Speaker 1: more HGH. 23:10 Speaker 1: So it is going to do all of those things. Also, 23:13 Speaker 1: is commonly 23:15 Speaker 1: mixed with Ipamorelin. 23:17 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin 23:19 Speaker 1: is also a secret dog. And 23:24 Speaker 1: it all so Ipamorelin 23:26 Speaker 1: simulates 23:28 Speaker 1: your gorillan 23:29 Speaker 1: receptor hormone that 23:32 Speaker 1: well boost your appetite. There's a negative thing, but basically when our ghrelin receptor is upregulated, 23:38 Speaker 1: tells our body to just make more human growth hormone. And 23:44 Speaker 1: CJC 23:45 Speaker 1: is always messy. CJC is GHRH. 23:48 Speaker 1: Okay. That's a growth hormone releasing hormone. 23:51 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin is a growth hormone releasing peptide. 23:54 Speaker 1: Them and that's why like Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin. 23:58 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin is a GHRH. 24:00 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin is a GHRP. 24:02 Speaker 1: Using those in conjunction is they will synergistically work a lot better than using them by themselves. 24:09 Speaker 0: Yeah. You've 24:11 Speaker 0: always said that you recommended 24:12 Speaker 0: running them both together for a long time. Yeah. You've talked about that for a very long Yeah. 24:18 Speaker 0: It's 1 of the strongest and again, it's going to be, just typical like benefits, what the secretagogue or the growth hormone peptides do. 24:26 Speaker 0: How about dosages? What would you say in regards to what would you recommend? And, you recommended it at night, I would assume, right? Yes, 24:33 Speaker 1: I would recommend 24:35 Speaker 1: it at night. 24:37 Speaker 1: I recommend it at night because that's when our biggest pulse is going to occur. 24:41 Speaker 1: And so I think the best benefit is to, I think you just, this is maybe 24:45 Speaker 1: a matter of debate, right? But, 24:49 Speaker 1: just boosting that big 24:51 Speaker 1: pulse 24:52 Speaker 1: is more effective than trying to boost boost 24:55 Speaker 1: maybe the little tiny weak pulses throughout the day. Right. Okay. They're just, we, our bodies just got too much stress, too much stuff going on during the day. It's not, it's 25:06 Speaker 1: just not, it's not interested in recovering throughout the day. It's, it's interested in surviving today. 25:13 Speaker 1: And with all of its stressors and that at nighttime 25:16 Speaker 1: is rebuild time. Okay. 25:18 Speaker 1: So if you want to build muscle, you give your body building blocks at night, right? You eat your protein. I mean, eat protein throughout the day. Okay. Yeah. But make sure you give yourself some building blocks so at night it can use that and actually rebuild everything. Absolutely. So I would say at night you asked me dosage. I would say start at 100 micrograms 25:38 Speaker 1: of 25:39 Speaker 1: CGC and Ipamorelin, 25:42 Speaker 1: and then bump up to 200 25:45 Speaker 1: micrograms. 25:46 Speaker 1: You can go as high as maybe 25:48 Speaker 1: 300. 25:49 Speaker 1: Would, I would again play it safe on the lower end, but I do know, I absolutely know people growing up to 500 micrograms, but always, 25:57 Speaker 1: of course. Right. And 26:01 Speaker 1: just do the math correctly on your bottles. Oftentimes it's 5 mg of CJC, 26:07 Speaker 1: no DAC and 5 mg of Ipamorelin. 26:11 Speaker 1: Would put 2.5 mils of water in Canada, 26:15 Speaker 1: then 5 units 26:16 Speaker 1: will equal 100 26:18 Speaker 1: micrograms of each. Perfect. 26:21 Speaker 0: 10 units will equal 200 micrograms of each. 26:24 Speaker 0: Simple math, baby. Yeah. Love it. Good 26:27 Speaker 0: stuff. Anybody should not take it. 26:31 Speaker 1: If you're allergic to it, 26:33 Speaker 0: She'll know fairly quickly. She'll know quickly. 26:38 Speaker 1: If you start to develop that reaction, 26:41 Speaker 0: would just probably say times just don't take that anymore. There's so many different options that you have. So if you're 1 of those people that are more 26:49 Speaker 0: prone to don't do well with it, you have a lot of other secret dogs, man. Again, my favorite's Tesamorelin anyway. I love Tesamorelin. It's my favorite. And then I don't know. There's not many people it's like, there's just, there's 27:01 Speaker 1: not, if maybe like mid prolonged 27:04 Speaker 1: high use can decrease your insulin sensitivity, 27:08 Speaker 1: just like prolonged high use of regular 27:10 Speaker 1: HGH. 27:11 Speaker 1: Right. 27:13 Speaker 1: So if you're already prone to that, 27:17 Speaker 1: maybe don't 27:19 Speaker 1: take it. 27:20 Speaker 0: How about a synergistic, 27:22 Speaker 0: peptides 27:23 Speaker 1: to run with it? What would you say? Yeah, well, 1st of all, this is a big 1 where like running, having your light test, the men having your testosterone 27:32 Speaker 1: optimal is huge. 27:34 Speaker 1: 100%. 27:36 Speaker 1: Important. Absolutely. I mean, I mean, really, that's the underlying for all men, right? We 27:41 Speaker 1: talk about everything like that. That is the golden ticket, right? Absolutely. That's God's elixir to make man. 27:49 Speaker 1: And so get it right and life will be better. 27:53 Speaker 1: 100. So there's that anything 27:56 Speaker 1: else, 27:57 Speaker 1: It's BPC 27:58 Speaker 1: and TB, right? Those were great, right? They're helping recover. 28:01 Speaker 1: This helping 28:03 Speaker 1: you recover. There's just gonna work synergistically together. Really, 28:06 Speaker 1: really anything. I think that anything can be ran with it. 28:10 Speaker 1: Along with if you decide to actually use a real HGH really should just be ran like in the background. Yeah. And then do everything else you feel like doing also. Okay. It's also a longer play. 28:22 Speaker 0: Which we're both fans of, because I know we've talked about it, but we were both fans of taking the HGH in the morning, like actual HGH, know, some of Tropen and 28:30 Speaker 0: ACC-3Dog 28:31 Speaker 0: at night. I've gone through most of them. CJC is 1 that I have not really dipped into, believe it or not. I 28:39 Speaker 0: will. But 28:41 Speaker 0: we are fans of the HGH in the morning and the secretagog at night. 1 of the things that I'll throw out there is that which in my opinion, synergistically run really well as an AOD-nine 604, 28:51 Speaker 0: just because 28:52 Speaker 0: gosh, I love it. I love AOD. 28:55 Speaker 0: AOD man, 28:56 Speaker 0: it's probably 1 of my top 5 just because it's, it's the last part of the HGH chain and its job is to burn fat. 29:03 Speaker 0: And, I've been running the Tesamorelin and the AOD in the last 2 months. And, my diet just because my back has been sloppier than I have been in years. I 29:13 Speaker 0: truly give the credit to those 2 in particular, 29:16 Speaker 0: really burning the fat and just keeping my stomach ripped, man. AOD is a good, 29:22 Speaker 0: add on to any of the secret of dogs, but if you're running CJC, 29:25 Speaker 1: add the AOD in there, man, see what happens. I think you're gonna like Yeah. Hell yeah. Give it a go. I mean, you know, give the mitochondria is a go to, you know, 29:33 Speaker 1: if you're not doing anything redundant, right? You're doing, you're using, you're, you are activating, stimulating several different pathways 29:41 Speaker 1: in your body and nothing is redundant and it will just help out with 29:46 Speaker 1: everything. 29:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. 29:50 Speaker 0: I mean, again, we've talked about it, but there is a reason by everybody 29:54 Speaker 0: and their brother's talking about peptides because they're freaking awesome. They 29:58 Speaker 0: are good. They're they do. There's so many peptides that do so many amazing things. 30:03 Speaker 0: And, we're at an infant stage, I think where peptides are even going, man. I mean, I just think that, there's, there's a lot of rad stuff ahead. So if you're listening into this for the 1st time and you stumble onto this and you're just starting to read about peptides and whatnot, 30:20 Speaker 0: you've come to the right place because I hope that this is the genesis of you digging in and studying peptides, 30:26 Speaker 0: Eventually maybe trying some peptides because 30:29 Speaker 0: for the most part, you're going to get a lot out of there. Just so many rad peptides out there that are really, really enhance your body. But like Will said, let's circle back around, get your hormones in line 1st. 30:43 Speaker 0: There's nothing more important than having your hormones in line. And in today's world, 30:48 Speaker 0: I'm telling you with experience, because I've, well, we both have worked with a lot of men. 30:52 Speaker 0: Men have low testosterone 30:54 Speaker 0: these days. The food sucks. It just is what it is. We won't go out in left field. Men have low testosterone. So if you're tired and you're sluggish and you're in anywhere from 35 to 40 plus, and you're not on testosterone, 31:05 Speaker 0: you haven't had your blood work, please go get your blood work and see where your testosterone and free testosterone and estrogen is at. Figure out your hormones, 31:14 Speaker 0: get that fixed and then start tapping into some peptides and you can live and age really well. Friends, really can. You can. If you're not doing that, I don't know what the hell you're doing. I don't know. Seriously, 31:25 Speaker 0: man, like you can age well. I'm 48 man and I feel better than I did at 28 man and I'm healthy, but I take a lot of supplements and do a lot of stuff to help me stay that way. 31:37 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And like, dude, we know as far as that goes, like, we 31:41 Speaker 1: have basically mastered how to use 31:43 Speaker 1: testosterone effectively. So, 31:46 Speaker 1: there's tons of horror stories out there. Cool. Those are just ignorant or just unwilling, 31:51 Speaker 1: just dumb people who've, you know, well, you didn't know what they're to, what to do, but like, we know how to use this stuff safely. The science is there. 32:00 Speaker 0: Use of it. Sometimes negatives and having testosterone too, man. Like if you're super tired and lethargic and so much to live like that fellows, God did not create us to have 200 testosterone. Let me tell you that. Way. No, 32:12 Speaker 1: your wife did not marry you to do that either. 32:15 Speaker 0: The 32:17 Speaker 0: sex that enhanced 32:19 Speaker 0: sex drive is just like a small portion of the benefits, just feeling like a man and having energy again, clear headedness, 32:26 Speaker 1: clear thought instead of a lot of cloudy head. You know what I mean? I can go on and on about the benefits. Yeah. And really, like, now, I often say, dude, I wish I could take more without gaining more muscle. The problem is I 32:38 Speaker 1: just would get too buff. I don't want to be like that, but like, I would love to take more for just only the other 32:44 Speaker 1: feeling reasons, you know, and not for the physical attributes. 32:49 Speaker 1: But that comes along with it. 32:52 Speaker 0: Yeah, 32:55 Speaker 0: don't need to So there you go, man. I love it. Those are 2 good ones, man. I enjoyed these 2. And again, I think both people will get, people will get a lot out of both of those. Again, if you are 33:03 Speaker 0: having some problems with fatigue and things like that, 1st, get your blood work and make sure your testosterone and all that stuff checked. But again, 33:09 Speaker 0: there's been a lot of studies with this SS-thirty 33:12 Speaker 1: 1 that is really helping people with fatigue. So give it a shot, man. Try it. Yeah, for sure. Give it shot. That one's cool. Anything else before we split? I got nothing. I got nothing. Let's just keep, we'll keep trying to bring people 33:27 Speaker 1: new, new, 33:29 Speaker 1: cool, cool peptides that actually that work. Yeah. 33:33 Speaker 0: I mean, you guys can put some comments. This goes up on YouTube. It goes up on my Instagram and all my social medias. And if you want us to talk about it in any in particular that we haven't talked about, we're going to go through them 1st and then kind of circle back around, but, anything that you guys want us to dig in and then, I will again be in surgery on Friday. So I will be putting out the question 33:52 Speaker 0: thing on Wednesday on my social media story. So click on that link, ask Will and I any questions, and we will be recording that on Thursday this week instead, but it'll still drop on Saturday. Cool. Cool. All right. All right, my friends. Well, we enjoyed it and we will catch you on the next round. That's all we got. Good night.